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How Wall Street Rigs the Game Ft. Peter Antico and Sean Stone - LFTV Ep 284 · Kinesis Money

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  SPEAKER_02: All I can say is look what's happening in the gold market.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tier one asset by the Bank of International Settlements.
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  SPEAKER_02: All foreign central bankers are buying in record numbers, more than they ever have in the history of the country.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've got the ticket criminal gold in the one and only Andrew McGuire.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Life from the Vault.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, welcome to Life from the Vault, brought to you by Kinesis Money.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is the show that goes beyond the headlines to uncover the truth about the gold and silver markets with world-renowned whistleblower and industry expert Andrew McGuire.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this week, he's joined in the vault by our featured guests.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, that is a guest with an S here.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're talking Peter Antico and Sean Stone, who created the documentary Paradigm of Money, and also a new documentary on the uh legacy of RFK.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we're talking, of course, gold and silver.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're not going to want to miss a word of this conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's head over to the UK and join Andrew McGuire and our featured guests, Peter Antico and Sean Stone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Over to you, Andrew.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hey, thanks, Shane.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is a very special episode here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, not only do we have with Pete Antico, who's been with us before, fantastic guy, good friend, uh, producer, writer, director, hey, an economic scholar, should we say.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and obviously um we we've had him had him on before.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and he, I think he we we talked about him.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's consulted to Oliver Stone's Wall Street 2, uh, a huge amount of economic knowledge.
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  SPEAKER_03: So really good to have him here.
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  SPEAKER_03: And he's joined by uh Sean Stone, which is Oliver's son.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and he's joined us for another episode.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um, and that we had such a really good uh received appearance back in 2022.
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't believe it, but here we are.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh so I want to say welcome, Pete, welcome Sean.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, thanks for coming back.
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  SPEAKER_03: It would be good um to hear from you both, really talking about the fantastic release uh of the excellent documentary, which is The Paradigm of Money, uh, which obviously exposes the systematic uh corruption in the financial markets, uh which I consider to be essential viewing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and my goodness, guys, this is a welcome expose of just how corrupt Wall Street is.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's coming from the right people.
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  SPEAKER_03: But Sean, can we start with your um late your later production, which I wanted to talk about uh briefly before we look at the paradigm of money, uh, where you directed um the RFK Legacy production, people really, really want to know how did you approach directing RFK Legacy, knowing that your father directed brilliant films and documentaries about John F.
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  SPEAKER_03: Kennedy.
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  SPEAKER_03: So can we start there, Sean?
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure, sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, I didn't approach it with that mindset of uh the JFK feature film, or um my dad did a subsequent documentary called JFK Through the Looking Glass.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was a follow-up uh almost uh 30 years after the original film, where he got more into the evidence, you know, uh that you say that was presented in the film, as well as more declassified documents that came out since then, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So the information that's come out since '91 to do an up-to-date JFK documentary, which is very thorough, very well, you know, very well investigated.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh his his co-uh creator on that was Jim Di Eugenio, who's a uh a renowned his you know scholar when it comes to the assassination of JFK.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um Di Eugenio is a conspiracy theorist in the in the best sense that he actually does the research and um is not just throwing out accusations, but is very thorough in his research.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my dad did that documentary about the murder of John F.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kennedy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um the mention the the intention with RFK legacy was to show the parallel between RFK Sr.
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  SPEAKER_00: and RFK Jr., uh, you know, in in more sort of sort of mythological senses that RFK C.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sr.
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  SPEAKER_00: survived, you know, basically he survives the death of his brother in 63, and he's traumatized by it, as was the entire nation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And but him more than anyone, because he was so close to JFK, he was fighting with him in the battles when they were, you know, basically, you know, fighting against the CIA, the military-industrial complex, the generals in the Pentagon, all the war machine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, RFK was basically in the trenches with his brother, uh doing his brother's bidding until his brother was killed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And thereafter RFK was traumatized, he goes on for a few years, he goes on to run for president in '68, probably would have become president had he survived.
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  SPEAKER_00: He gets shot down.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then his son now carries that same trauma forward.
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  SPEAKER_00: RFK Jr.
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  SPEAKER_00: deals with the same trauma of his father's assassination.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to parallel these two journeys, in a sense, of who these men were, dealing with trauma, dealing with, you know, basically carrying on from that pain to then do some of their best work.
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  SPEAKER_00: In RFK Sr.'s case, you know, he went on to run for president.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was a very charismatic uh senator from New York.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was uh a really popular figure in the 60s, could have made a wonderful president.
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  SPEAKER_00: And RFK Jr., you know, took the trauma the trauma and loss of his father.
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  SPEAKER_00: He spiraled for a bit, he went into drug abuse, cleaned himself up, and became the most popular, if not the most influential, uh environmental lawyer in America by the 90s.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it was really a father-son story.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was, it was paralleling journeys, it was showing how both men came up, as well as JFK came up against the military-industrial complex, all including big pharma as a as an aspect of the military-industrial complex.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and so I I again I w I wanted it to be a it's a very emotional documentary.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it I think it you feel it as much as you learn information from it, you really feel the uh the journey of these two men and and uh what they went through.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and of course, that battle goes on every day.
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  SPEAKER_03: We we see it playing out in various ways.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um, but thank you um for outlining that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, the you're gonna provide us some links to access that, aren't you sure?
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, RFK Legacy is available from Amazon, it's available from uh Angel Studios.
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  SPEAKER_00: Angel has their own platform uh for dis you know as an app, basically, for distribution.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um Angels produced some very amazing work, including the very famous uh Sound of Freedom film that made uh hundreds of millions of dollars.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think surprised everybody when it came out in uh 2022, I believe, or 23.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh anyway, the point is that uh Angel's a good studio.
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  SPEAKER_00: They got behind us very early on.
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  SPEAKER_00: They believed in the message, and so that's where people can watch it on Angel or Amazon.
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  SPEAKER_03: Fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, let's get on to um what really um you produced, you also produced the paradigm of money, um, which is the an extremely in-depth financial documentary.
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  SPEAKER_03: And people don't don't glaze over, guys, because this is really a story about uh corruption and uh all the the the actors that it how they interact.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I actually participated in that um and Pete directed that uh I participated in that um production.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now I understand, Sean, I understand it's now going to be released.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um now you have a new uh tokenized platform uh called Ethical Media Group.
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  SPEAKER_03: I understand you're the vice president on content uh for this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um can you explain that's an interesting business model?
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um how how do you both think technology is going to impact media in this root way?
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Andrew, like like um Larry Fink stated,$12 trillion worth of assets will be tokenized in the next five years.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we use something called volumetric cryptography or very, very advanced blockchain technology.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is novel.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like all other blockchains, like you know, Ethereum or or you know, Polygon, they're based upon you know protocols or codes from you know Bitcoin or other protocols.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is completely novel, completely invented, new mathematics.
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  SPEAKER_02: For the tech files out there, they solve double spin in a completely unique uh manner in the Byzantine General's dilemma, which basically means you know, if you're in a war, you have you know four captains at at all corners of a of a war, and you have to get them all to attack at the exact same time.
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't know if one will run away, if one will be 10 minutes late, uh if one will be early, but you want to achieve consensus.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we solve um that in a unique mathematical way.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: Bitcoin transacts five to eight transactions per second.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um our protocols uh uh transact at 350,000 transactions per second with 10,000 nodes, which is uh I don't believe there's anything faster that that I've seen on the planet by uh by you know by really a long shot.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and protocols like Ethereum need layer twos to run like Polygon and Plasma.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: They need layer twos, and they come with higher security protocols and much higher gas fees.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we basically use this uh technology um to tokenize.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if I had a um a$30 million film, it'd sell a million dollars a million tokens for$30 a piece.
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  SPEAKER_02: People buy the people buy the tokens, and the film is funded, everybody gets paid uh their their their wages.
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  SPEAKER_02: However, all the all the the the transactions are on blockchain.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when we release the the projects, we also have all the money coming in, and there's no uh Hollywood phony baloney corrupt accounting.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh everybody can see you know what they're getting on a second to second basis.
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  SPEAKER_02: The guard it's still paid on Stripe, it's paid in US dollars, and what we're doing is democratizing and decentralizing media, so we're eliminating the gatekeeper.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if Sean wanted to produce a movie that the public loved, but he couldn't get a studio under a network would do it, and the public goes, we want to see this, then the public supports and and earns money from what they what they actually love and want to see.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're basically changing the game.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's uh it'd be kind of like in its simplest form elevator pitch Netflix with ownership.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you actually own and profit from ownership of the underlying intellectual property, which is not a security, it comes under property law because you actually own the underlying IP.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because if you own Microsoft, all you own is a piece of the uh of the finance.
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't own any of Microsoft's IP, nothing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's why that Microsoft would be a security.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's a different business model, and uh and it works incredibly well, and we'll be you know launched in about three weeks.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the the reason I held Paradigm of Money, because I was gonna release it on Amazon and other platforms uh a year ago, is because I wanted to put it on this platform.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're we're we're gonna only sell 500,000.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's it, 500,000 tokens at uh of$2.99.
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  SPEAKER_02: We want everybody to view, they'll own it.
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  SPEAKER_02: But here's the the the beautiful beauty of this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Once you do that, you're gonna you're gonna own 50% of the back end anywhere else it goes, other than the uh once it's like Bitcoin, once the tokens are bought, there is no more.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anybody else buys them, it goes back into the uh into the ecosystem.
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  SPEAKER_02: The people bottom can then profit by it and have viewership rights.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the MP4 is embedded in the token with all of the contracts written in uh to the token.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when you purchase the token, it's a legal and binding contract.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that basically is a is in a nutshell.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, how we how we work in our our our tech partners, a company called a gingo, and uh today they're coming out with a gingo mind, first time your own private artificial intelligence.
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  SPEAKER_02: Private, it only works on your machine, it's coded to you.
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  SPEAKER_02: It can't be scraped by any other AI, it can't be scraped by Groc or Cloud or Chat GBT.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like right now, if anybody uses you know these public or big-time um AIs or machine learning as I call them, um, when they use them, everything can be scraped.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like you see lawsuits with anthropic and Disney, because they're scraping all their information illegally, they didn't give them permission to do so.
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  SPEAKER_02: They scrape everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: This particular AI you can't scrape.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if anybody uh is interested in that, if you go to a a gingoaging om, uh you can see the new way.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's called a gingo mine, and they're they're they're launching a special.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna love this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think for the first few months, it's 25 bucks, I believe.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: Either it's 25 or 35 bucks.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get this for a 10-year license, not a month-a-month license, a 10-year license.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: They're changing the game here, and then the then it will, I it'll go up in price, I think, in two to three months.
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  SPEAKER_02: But that's it, they're gonna do a license for 10 years.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's basically you know what we're doing.
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  SPEAKER_02: But this this kind of technology you could tokenize like you want to buy a building for 10 million, and you could, you know, you could sell um, you know, tokens if you wanted to sell 10 tokens for a million apiece, or 100 tokens for a hundred thousand dollars a piece, or or you know, or or or you know, less you could continue the game um the more you want to make those tokens affordable, or any kind of a business.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, that's what we're doing, and and our partners are already tokenizing gold, silver, energy, oil, natural gas, bitcoin miners, and financial transactions.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: So it's really, it's really, you know, you know, superior, you know, technology, and it's it's not plutocratic because Bitcoin is supposed to be decentralized.
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  SPEAKER_02: But a paper just came out where it's 97 to 98 percent plutocratic, which is owned by whales.
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  SPEAKER_02: How is that decentralized?
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  SPEAKER_02: That means it's concentrated power.
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  SPEAKER_02: Even Ethereum, same way, it's owned by the whales.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's concentrated power.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not, you know, we can say it's port the money's portable, divisible, a store of value in a medium of exchange, but great, you could do that.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: But I'd rather, you know, you know, you you want to both, but uh all I can say is look what's happening in the gold market, tier one asset by the Bank of International Settlements.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: All foreign central bankers are buying in record numbers, more than they ever have in the history of the country.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the BRICS Nation is having a new trading currency, uh, 40% backed by gold.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then you have um the, you know, as you know, Basel III, Basel uh four rules where you you have to um buy gold, a hundred-ounce uh gold contract or a 500-ounce silver contract in the futures market on the Comex and the LBMA one to one, you have to have the silver and gold to back it up.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: Not that they always do that, because they were used to play musical chairs with re-hypothecated gold and silver, where they sell one contract to the 99 other people.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's how they use the price rig.
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  SPEAKER_02: But since everybody's taking delivery now, they can't do it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It used to be like you stated, T plus one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now it's what T plus eight takes eight weeks to get delivery.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: Now there's no delivery on the COMEX.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: There's there, I mean, there's short supply, there's not enough supply for photovoltaic cells, uh, for computers, for the new electrification, for data centers, that you know, EVs, electric batteries, cell phones.
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  SPEAKER_02: There is it, and they need it as an industrial metal.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's why the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_02: made it a critical mineral.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, with all this going on, you know, it's it's like a a perfect storm for two things for uh you know, gold and silver, or gold to play a role in the global financial system, because why did tether USDC, a stablecoin, buy$14 billion worth of gold?
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  SPEAKER_02: Are they the question I have for you, Andrew?
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you think they're just buying it as a proxy for the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_02: government because the deficit's$40 trillion?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: The debt to GDP in the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_02: is about 123%, which is a record high with a$3.5 trillion debt that takes a trillion dollars a year to service it.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: And with a bond crisis, a debt crisis, a credit crisis, I mean, and a commercial real estate crisis, and now it looks like the real estate market is rolling over.
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  SPEAKER_02: So with all these things and the market being toppy, more toppy than I've ever seen it, more levered the market than in 2008.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's like a perfect store for gold and silver, but it's a it's like a disaster for the purchasing power of the US dollar.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: I think Pete, one of the things, and Sean, one of the things I like about um what you how you're going about this, what it does is obviously we're it deeply ingrained in the wholesale, retail, not personally the retail, but the wholesale and the um the larger gold um sphere.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and essentially that's a global sphere.
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  SPEAKER_03: And now what I like about this is that we're always looking for solutions.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: We're always looking for how do we uh take responsibility for ourselves, how how do we find ways of getting information out there?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: I think what I like about this, because it it does involve gold, it does involve silver, it does involve real assets, it does involve how they are manipulated and the opportunities that that presents.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I think uh what this does, it casts the net out that bit wider, because we're not just this is not just for gold uh gold people, this is not just for silver people, this is for everyone who wants to understand how do I, in other words, how do I take responsibility for myself?
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: How do I get enough information to actually make a difference?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: And if somebody taking a piece of this is actually really that what they're doing is actually uh being a part of that solution.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: And I think I can see that.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: I can see that as well.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: So things are really changing, as you know, and and you've outlined some very amazing things, and I think uh something rather special happened even last Friday, um, when the Hong Kong uh exchange, uh SGE exchange merger came together, and pricing for gold and silver is now steadily being uh determined in physical markets where you have to have a physical bar.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, how novel is that, Pete?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: You just talked about the the manipulation.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: How about a day when if I want to buy a bar or sell a bar, I have to own it first?
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: My God, what a difference!
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean what a novel idea.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: And so really that's I think I'm I'm just focusing on this paradigm of money.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: I think what you're doing is you're pro we're casting that net right out there millions of people.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: And I think who will then say, hey, well, yeah, what about this gold?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: What about this silver?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: What hey, I I I didn't know I can, you know what I mean?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: I can change my debasing dollars that are being that that that that essentially interest rates go up.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_03: What's that gonna do?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_03: Is increase the one trillion a year to 1.2?
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, and what you're doing is there comes a point where you um where you're really reaching that kind of ceiling where maybe you can uh increase rates all you want, but do I want to buy that bond?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Because what it's done is making things worse.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: So therefore, I need to have access to zero counterparty risk uh assets that are thousands of years old.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: What about the clear but what they do with the genius act and the clarity act?
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: This is interesting because it seems like they they want to buy back, you know, um they want to buy back bonds, back bonds or the uh you have to have the deal is uh for every stable coin, it has to be back one-to-one with the US dollar.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: That appears to be a backdoor bailout of of treasuries because no one wants to buy the treasuries.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like um Judy Shelton was making the case for them to revalue you know, gold or to either mark to mark it to the current value.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: Or I think Van Eck, this isn't anybody, this isn't us.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: Van Eck, a huge, huge uh fund, came out and said, well, they'd have to, I think, bring it up to somewhere around 174,000 an ounce to monetize out of$30 trillion.
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  SPEAKER_02: worth of of of a deficit.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: But whatever, whatever amount they did, if they revalued it to 10,000, you're still, or Jim Ricards was talking about 24,000 to uh monetize out of six trillion dollars uh out of the debt to to give the system a little bit of relief.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: However, with a bond crisis and the bond vigilantes acting up, the the prognosis is you know not very good because the bond market's 10 times larger than the stock market, as you are well aware.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: And if that blows up, I mean it's going to be pretty it could be pretty devastating for the stock market.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: And obviously it's uh uh gold and silver are are phenomenal protections as well as uh you know I kind of agree with Rick Rule talking about natural resources and energy, you know, uranium or agriculture, um, copper, all of these, you know, um, you know, materials um the you know that run the world with a food supply and they knocked out you know 35% of the natural gas production, the LNG, in the uh in the war, you know, in Iran.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: So we're we're gonna still look at uh at the future gas shocks and and oil price shocks.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: So then I don't think there's any way around this fact right now.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: So I I I think the economically I I think we're coming into a very difficult time that people haven't seen before.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: And you know the the way to protect yourself is actually real world assets, um actually assets that you own like you're you're speaking of and to get some you know financial literacy and also understand that um if if they were backing the bonds the bond market or the stable coin by gold they could actually do that.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: And if they did that they would try to underpin the the U.S.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: economy but like Judy Schell was saying well what if they use uh five five year bond tenure 15 20 and 30 years or even out to 50 years uh what if we're backing that using that by gold at zero coupon so you could borrow the money up front at zero coupon you know for five 10 20 30 years monetize manufacturing bring it back to the United States i Andy Shankman has been talking about this you know extensively and I I think it's a fascinating thesis and that's what Judy Shelton was speaking about who is Trump's you know one of his her his number one picks at the time uh for Fed share so I thought that I think the chessboard is getting very interesting from an economic you know point of view in the in the world Andy yeah and and I think um absolutely and I think this is the the whole revaluation goal revaluation story um is front and center uh the only one question is and I think this is being brought forward not because the US wants to do it but simply because they're losing control of the price setting mechanism because when I have when you when you have deep liquidity pools of physical gold and you can access them um in in into exchanges that are completely secure then as a refiner as a um as a producer uh that used to be captive to the games that are played at these PM uh at the fixes in London suddenly you now have what you can say it's a high quality liquid asset so I can then monetize that I can collateralize that I can use that without even selling it but I can utilize that it's kind of what you're talking about.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_03: And here at Kinesis we're what we're doing also is we're monetizing 23 we're starting with 23 real world assets tokenizing them.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_03: So exactly so whether no matter what it is copper silver gold doesn't matter you name it it can be collateralized and monitored and traded and so really I think any halo high high quality um low obsolescence uh re uh asset which is a real asset.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: And that's the kind of what you're talking about here.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: This is a game changer.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: And I think one of the things that people need to understand is what and this your your your your um production very quickly points out the corruption that used that is embedded and how what we're talking about here is ways to circumvent that and each and every one of us taking responsibility which I'm a big person about this you have to take responsibility don't wait for someone else to do it.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_03: So we need platforms like this.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_03: Now Sean you've got a an a a very large influential following but you've also I know you've got a social conscience so what what was it what attracted you to this project?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean really it's Pete's you know it's it's Pete's vision.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what happened was uh he and I had talked for many years, you know, about his, you know, obviously his his insights his excitement for finance and trying to con uh convey you know complex financial ideas to to the lay person.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: So uh he had an idea for a documentary uh going back I think you know like as long as I've known him let's say at least like 10 years or so.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: And um what happened was during uh COVID in the lockdowns, um I was uh pretty close with Robert David Steele, the former CIA officer who was very outspoken on a lot of issues.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he was he and I he actually helped to raise the money for me to do a documentary called Best Kept Secret, which is a it's a doc it's a six-part docuseries about uh three hours long and that Best Kept Secret dives into uh a lot of the darker things around uh the elites, you know, human trafficking, MK ultra mind control, um how we're manipulated through the media um and and you know it even gets into things like adrenochrome and uh you know blood rituals and things like this.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: So uh at the end of making that that docuseries um David wanted to Robert wanted to basically do something along the lines of what you know Pete did with the Paradigm of Money.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: So he he basically got the financing together uh Pete interviewed a number of people I can't remember how many a dozen or so including yourself and uh was able to convey something I think I did the narration for the piece but essentially it was conveying you know again complex financial in you know insights to the layperson.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: That was the intention and uh it was nice to be able to actually like help me get it complete right get it to get something that he'd wanted to do for a long time to get it made.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah and uh and it's good because just to let everybody know um and the on the ethical media group platform which is at www.ethicalmedia group dot io you can send us an email and reserve a spot in three weeks that film will be available if you want the paradigm of money for 299 you like it says only 500 000 tokens we're we're selling um after that you can if you not only you'll be able to watch it which is basically free for 299 you're gonna be able to profit but from it from uh once we release it and uh the the tokens are up and it gets circulated all money that it earns on top of that will be uh will be wided at 50% go to the people that uh own the tokens it's uh it's a good deal it's just like when you're financing a movie if you wrote a check for a movie for if it's a$10 million movie you would get 50% of the back end so there's no other platform that will do that and it's all recorded on a blockchain completely transparent so you can't cheat.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_02: The one thing about an honest ecosystem about with a blockchain is you can't cheat any transaction you do uh on a chain because normally the people know nothing about it a regular blockchain has one block the information gets filled the next block comes forward that gets filled the next block comes forward and so on but what the solving of double spend which means you can't copy and paste it or can't uh um futz or remove any of the data that's on those ledgers is that the forward block is hashed to the previous block every all the information is pure from the beginning um to infinity and that's the way um you know they work but however the longer they get the higher the gas fees our chain works with different mathematics the the the more nodes are online the faster it scales so there's you know many many many you know uh you know beautiful things about this and then the AI that our tech partner gingle is doing is like you could put in the Encyclopedia Britannica PDF or economic books or legal books PDFs that just ingest them and have your own assistant that can't go anywhere.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: And any personal information that you're writing about yourself is only stays on your machine personal to you where the it's dangerous to do any other way.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: If you're putting your personal information and your memoirs and all your stuff AI could just model you and it gets scraped everywhere.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's not privacy and that's not safe.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: What a gingo mind does is change that game which I would highly recommend uh to do that that gets that's actually getting launched today which is awesome but um andrew I wanted to ask you that in the financial markets they hit the markets with all these algorithms you know the bottom line when silver went to 120 and then it got banged down to under$60 uh 50% retracement there's no fundamentals there were certainly no fundamentals to take it down 50% though we've seen that happen several times before in the past um there's massive physical demand there's no supply and yet banks like JP Morgan who had been caught from 28 to 216 at fine$920 million for spoofing the gold and silver market they're made the custodian of the SLV and the GLD along with BlackRock it's like the Fox guarding the head house.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: So you have people that committed fraud in the market um for spoofing it now running the SLV which uh musical chairs um there's no data that says they have the uh the gold and silver to back that fund and uh they can also settle in in cash which it says in their prospectus both the GLD and the SLV that's why it's always better to deal with the PSLV or sprout pro the Sprout products that are backed by by physical metal or just by physical gold and and and physical silver but what do you what do you think about all this you know you're that like you said the China exchange they change the game they're moving to a physical market and yet we know today you know we're see we're still seeing um gold you know trading at 25% below its high today I mean I'm looking at my screen so it's that's actually it's trading at 4,045 so good and silver now actually bopped up to 88 cents and 5815.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't you know it looks to me like uh Pete Technical analysts are trying to still talk by 3555 or$50 silver but I don't think so I think the bottom appears like it's gonna be it's gonna be in and by the way if I was calling it it's a manipulated price right now it goes manipulated please there's no supply for silver why is it$55$57 or$58 that's a manipulated price Bill Murphy from the Gold Antitrust Action Committee has been pounding the table for this you know uh you know for years do I uh do I know it as uh as gospel but how can you sell rehypothecated silver 100 contracts to one one person that is absolutely naked shorting and the SEC all the chairs except for Bart Shilton nobody has done anything about it except in 2008 as you remember the SEC was washing porn for four hours a day which is what they were doing there's no accountability anymore and that's what sub blockchain gives you Andrew in all and all asset classes blockchain or um you know enterprise software what it gives you is accountability and transparency.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: So um any thoughts on that?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: Well yeah and and and and basically um that's what the power down money is drawing attention to it's talking about you you you've got an ex you've got interviews with a wide range of people including myself and essentially what what we you're talking about is you're summing up pretty much what is going on there corruption uh naked shorting um and synthetic supply um being added usually you know this Pete at one o'clock in the morning when no one else would be selling this is when they sell they bid pull and it was a and that Bart Chilton as you say um very very lovely man the only uh CFTC commissioner that ever ever returned a letter very very uh uh integral guy and as he said in an interview with me once he when he left and it's on um uh it's it's on uh YouTube and he said Andrew it was about we position concentration was the problem and he specifically named JP Morgan and he said well we had to when they bailed out Fair Stearns we had to let them take that position otherwise this big short silver position over he said but they ran it on and on and on and they shouldn't have so yes so you've got that kind of stuff but here to answer your question uh Pete the reason this can't go on any longer not because Wall Street has any control left in gold yes they'll play their games with stocks you don't you I mean how many times do they you take a sh a short sold stock and and there may only be a million uh uh issuance and you could have 10 million short I mean so but when it comes to to here's the problem you can't print physical gold you can't print physical silver and when somebody else takes control of the price setting mechanism outside of the West they are screwed and that's what's happening and I think people need to understand what an opportunity this is right now but first of all understand what the corruption is get on your platform put your but you know take your investment um this is to me a very important thing to to do then understand then you get a full understanding hey I now know what's changed rather than you know rather than accepting it as it just happens to be solved but you need to know how it's been solved and why that's important and why it's a a really important time to actually to convert your debt based pounds, dollars, euros, yen, everything you can into physical gold before these guys completely turn the uh the the the the market around and they're doing it they did it start it was launched on the 24th which is only last Friday and suddenly you've got huge flows of physical gold every time they screw with a a T plus one delivery in London guess what?
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's being arbitraged in the physical markets which are trading about$10 plus dollars over and has been as high as 70 and what it's just literally taking 400 ounce bars out of London going into Hong Kong into these physical exchanges to fuel to actually provide liquidity to the people who really want to buy physical which are enormous and then what?
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_03: And then what happens so you then lose the liquidity to lend fractional gold to the to the to the short sellers and why does why do we think open interest in the COMEX has evaporated evaporated of the all of the institutional guys that I know every single refiner everybody I know who's of any size has gone into the physical markets it's left a few speculators and the Fed who is still the only central bank short physical gold and they're scrambling to to um uh to now they're they're facing in a situation where they've lost control of the price somebody else is setting the price how much repothe how much how much has been repothecated of your 8,100 tons of gold in the in America how much of it is it may be there but how many claims are on it has yet to be established.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: And so it this is a an important time people need to know the full story then you can make your own decisions.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I I do suggest people um look at the bigger picture and I think as I said this goes out our gold community understands this so many people you know they've we've been for years people understand this and they've been they've been taking responsibility by converting um their their their physical their paper position into physical and every time you do that you're taking hundreds of uh of ounces away from the from the short sellers and and I think so this is important to me is that is that people understand what's happening what's changed and uh and why it's changed.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: So look at look at the miners andrew look at the miners down 50% unbelievable even first majestic or heckla all those big silver Pan American silver I mean they're selling I mean some of those companies I think Heckler and uh Keith Newmeyer and uh and uh Heckla's kind of I think they're selling to some uh industrial people that have that need the silver for industrial uses directly uh at premiums they came out with uh they came out with that uh you know news several months ago but they're on fire that's fire sales there's my opinion better than 1979 I don't think there's a better time to buy physical gold silver or miners because miners produce the uh the the metal and you can get incredible leverage going forward I haven't seen a better time to purchase those mines uh than today and I and I think this is the last window my opinion is the last window I don't think after this downturn I don't think you'll ever be able to get it this cheap there is a strong possibility um of course I don't have a crystal ball that they do revalue if not the price will continue to go higher because there's really not a lot of gold available either you know on the market that's in short supply.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean in in if in the silver market there really is no certain sort of supply so is there justification in so from supply demand for silver to be well over double the price yes Michael Oliver's still calling for a two to three hundred dollar price by the end of the year which is which is very interesting you know based upon you know the$5 price going you know up tenfold to$50 over 50 years staying in that rectangular box and now it broke out and then the next wave if you go that if you go to the next 10x like Oliver suggesting it go to 500.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: But looking at it with the economy with the purchasing power of the U.S dollar which is that acts like an invisible tax on anybody in it with a fixed income they they they don't understand how their their the value gets eroded anybody goes out to dinner can see this or goes to the supermarket can see how much less purchasing power than the US dollar even at the gas pump especially in California where I am where the government's crazy and they tax you to death and they just increase the tax 2% the highest in the nation highest corporate tax in the nation gas surcharged using Amazon oil which they think they should never use um it's very destructive to Mother Earth.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: California needs uh better management and uh uh hopefully Steve Hilton will win uh the governorship here good luck and they uh they had a guy named Spencer Pratt here who was wild was in first position all of a sudden magically when the votes closed and they and the write-in ballots came in he magically got buried by a no name who lost her district she lost her own home district and yet all these other districts mail in just magically these votes appeared I mean respectfully that stuff should be federally investigated because that guy Spencer Pratt should be you know one of the people in the mayoral race and I mean we have to start going back to you know honesty and common Sense which I haven't seen much lately.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody thinks that, you know, you should just be concerned with ethics, principles, morals, and values.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: You should throw parties, Democrat, Republican, out.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_02: People should be humanitarians.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: And let's just do uh practice honesty, integrity, and character and principles.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_02: So we should run our states and our world and our country based upon data and do it the best we can for all people to benefit the, you know, the citizenry of the United States of America.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: And that's with sound money with gold and silver and you know, and governments that are not like reality show salesmen, because that's what it appears like.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: Every time they're running its reality show and it's right against left instead of ethics and principles versus ethics and principles and honesty, which it should be, you know, I don't care what somebody is, as long as they do the best, uh they'll run the business the best.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a CEO.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_02: So the CEO of California should be fired for failing with infrastructure for fires, economics, you know, you know, high-speed rails to nowhere.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean,$7 billion,$24 billion spent on homeless down a black hole, no fire preparedness.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_02: Everything that I see from an economic point of view, I don't care if that was a it doesn't matter if you're a Democratic, Democrat, Republican, Green Party, or a rock pygmy.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: You failed to manage the capital correctly.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's not, and if you failed, you just could replace someone that does a that will do a better job to protect the people.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because nobody wants to get tax out of oblivion.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: You pay taxes, you know, when you when you pay taxes when you buy something, when you consume something, when you work, you pay taxes.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: When you die, you pay taxes unless you have a tru unless you you have a trust.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh, you pay taxes uh on the money and the money you earn that you pay taxes on the end of the year, you still have to go back to the governor and pay and and pay tax on that.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like debt, that's a a great form of debt slavery that should be really removed because it's really taxation without representation.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_02: Even property tax, if you looked at the 16th Amendment, you know, you say you own a house, how do you own the house?
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: 16th Amendment, there's no property tax.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if if you don't pay your taxes for four or five years, if you owned a five million dollar house, they they would take the government would take your your house in the United States.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_02: So how is that ownership?
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that is an ownership.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I know there's a case in Texas where they're looking at um uh litigating against the government for that issue.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh great podcast called Real Estate Mindset um that I I I came across, I stumbled across a couple months ago.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's fantastic that talks about these real estate issues.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_02: And one beautiful thing about LFTV and other other podcasts is that the average person can now get educated and look at somebody with the credentials of you, uh, you know, one of the largest bullion dealers in the UK and whistleblower, all the integrity that you have and the education that you have.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's a blessing for people to be able to watch people like you or um Craig Hemke or Eric Sprott, who owns Highcroft Mining and uh Chesapeake's or you great companies, more gold in the ground uh than any company in the world, really.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you you've got all these brilliant people, Jeremy Grantham, Ray Dalio, I mean, you know, Jim Ricards, Nilamy Prinz, all the people, you know, that uh that that you know, Andy Shankman, and all these really, you know, wonderful people that have been on in the air educating people honestly, wanting to actually protect the average human being.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and and and it's if they don't want to read a book, they can listen, you know.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then my my partner Sean here, who has educated so many people with the documentaries and the and the uh and the pie, he was recently on Tucker Carlson, which fascinating interviews that um that he that that he has done.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: And if you would talk about some of these subject matters that you could talk about today that you would do, you know, you know, 10 years ago, you know, God forbid someone should question anything.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: And you you you shouldn't be called crazy if I want to know, well, Andrew, how how did they rob gold?
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: How did they um lease gold?
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, how did Bill Murphy say that they used to lease gold?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if if you release a car, uh the person leases it, that's his their asset until the lease gets turned in.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: But with gold, if I own the gold and uh and I and I lease it to you and I keep it on my books and they keep it on their books, that's fraud.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: That that's price suppression.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: And if you say that, if you said that eight, ten years ago, like a few people were, a few of us were, you'd be called a conspiracy theorist.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, the government wouldn't do that.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: Until Madoff came out, all these frauds got uh got noted all of a sudden, financial crisis, the JP Morgan issues.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you really looked at it, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, if you actually looked up on Google search and the financial crimes, you'll see massive amounts of financial crimes that they were they had to pay fines for.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_02: And when people look to people and go, oh, this is Jamie Dimon, well, I think Jamie Dimon has almost the most amount of convictions for financial crimes that they just pay money for, like the spoofing of gold and silver, and they just pay a fine and they call it the cost of doing business.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Max Kaiser used to say all day long, everybody says it's a cost of doing business.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, chill, no, we got fined.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, they they Goldman Sachs was shorting the housing market as they were selling it long to their clients.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_02: They got fined$500 million.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_02: They probably profited$1.5 billion.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's a cost of doing billion business.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: So they paid the fine.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_02: Did the people that got screwed get their money back?
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: The or the SEC, the government just made the money and left the people holding the bag.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_02: Archegos Capital, all these people were left holding the bag in the option market.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: There is there is so much you know, insider trading and deception going on, but it doesn't seem there doesn't seem to be a lot of accountability in regards to this.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_02: Look at Enron, WorldCom.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to go back and look at all the history of the financial corruption, that many people you know were held accountable.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: Even the Wolf of Wall Street, even Jordan Belfort, he he only went to Camp Club Fed for a couple of years.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_02: If if he would have committed those crimes five years after, uh, he probably wouldn't would have gone to jail for a long time.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: But because that was a new thing, they get a movie made about him.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_02: Hollywood fantasized him.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody wants to hang out with somebody who destroyed ma and pop families, who destroyed people that had just 50 grand they were investing, you know, you know, trying to protect their assets, and basically he ran a boiler room Ponzi scheme, and Hollywood fantasizes about that.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: Where's the ethics there?
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I wouldn't fantasize uh and want to hang out with somebody, even though I know him.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he could sell us ice to an uh Eskimo.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um but somebody who acted with such little integrity and destroyed so many lives, they shouldn't be glorified.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: And for some reason our our our world loves to say hello to the bad guy.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so so so before anybody uh considers uh parking their money in in a management in a fund, uh, which could be gated tomorrow, before anyone can thinks about doing that, okay.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: You're gonna provide us a link, um, the ethical media group um uh platform platform that um so what happens?
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um we're gonna provide a link.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_03: So what happens when someone lands on that site?
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_03: Tell tell me what happens.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, someone lands up as it explains exactly what the tokenization process, how how it works.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_02: Word of sign up on the waiting list, um, because we're we we have some films that we're gonna we're gonna tokenize.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: And we have existing first one on our model for existing content.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I held it for a year was a paradigm of money.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_02: So if if you could leave ethical media group, ethical media group dot www.ethical media group dot io.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and then I sent you the link of a minute little short video that explodes it gives you the short version, explains.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: We'll put that up.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_03: We'll put that up.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_02: You could put that up.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_02: Then there's a trailer which I I sent you to the Carnama Money, and also a trailer for J RFK Legacy, which is a beautiful film.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: I I was uh you know privileged to co-produce with my pal Sean, um, who did a phenomenal job directing that film.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um crafting that film is a it's a tough narrative.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of detail and a lot of archive footage uh to piece this puzzle together.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: And it's you know, it's a it's a credit.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's like doing a thesis project at a at a university for a PhD.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: These these, you know, these are intricate, detailed, you know, projects uh, you know, that take some intellect and and knowledge uh of the subject to put it together.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_02: So it's uh um and you know, kudos to you know to the artists and creatives and the and the uh academics and the intellects that are being of service to people or humanity, just like yourself, you know, and Sean.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: And uh if you go to ethical media group.io, I would recommend going there and just signing up on the email list and saying on the on the email, just put paradigm of money, and then as soon as we launch, we'll give you the information um uh you know to do that.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then the people for the for the AI for your own personal where it can't be scraped, go to a gingo a-g-in-go.com and you could uh you could download it there and they'll license that to you there.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then the trailer, I think, of Paradigm of Money, I uh I sent uh to you.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_02: You can either run it on the show, or you can you can have the link just like RFK's uh um trailer.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_02: But they're both um they're both very, very power powerful narratives.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_02: And the documentary with you, Paradigm of Money, is used.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_02: Jim Ricards is in it, Nomi Prinz is in it.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh Grant Williams, a phenomenal gentleman used to work at Matterhorn overseas, is phenomenal.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_02: Grant uh is in it.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I guess Sean does the narration, and then and probably the biggest um pension whistleblower and attorney, forensic accountant and attorney Edward Seidel, who wrote the book, Who Stole My Pension?
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I interview him about the conditions of uh the pension system uh in the United States of America and and the fraud that happens there, where like the pensions of Rhode Island um would lower the benefit amounts to their members and give Wall Street several points uh on what they invest in, whether they make money or not.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's a way to hijack the system in favor for Wall Street friends and then to turn around and then get supported uh for your campaign for governor.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I mean, there's there's there's so many backroom deals you know that have been uh happening, but Ted Seidel uh won a$77 million whistleblower action uh as well.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_02: And he also won a lawsuit uh against the health plan of the SAG AFTRA, the Screen Actors Guild AFTRA trustees, um, for breaching their fiduciary duty because um they never informed their um negotiating committee that their plan was failing and didn't allow them to negotiate money to protect uh the plan.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_02: And as a result of that breach of fiduciary duty, 8,200 senior performers in the union got thrown off the plan.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: So um Ted Seidel has uh immense amount of integrity, uh you know, uh as well as you and Bill Murphy from the Gold Antitrust Action Committee is also in it.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: Max Kaiser, uh one of the foremost proponents of Bitcoin.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and there's a little thing with with Michael Saylor in there.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just a plethora of knowledgeable people, and even Bart Chilton.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: The the situation you're talking about with Bart at the CFTT, that's in that the CFTC is in, you know, is in the film.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_02: And uh a little homage to uh to Oliver's in the beginning, which Sean um narrates, and it's just you know, a uh you know, a beautiful film with very, very, very educated people to you know to give you and Daniel.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_02: I want to count, don't want to forget Daniel D Martino Booth.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: Daniel D Martino Booth is also very prevalent in it.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: So we have a cats of of really, really beautiful people.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm excited to bring it out as a tokenization.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_02: It was hard for me because I really wanted to bring it out a year and three months ago, but because it's so prevalent today, everything in it is is is so relevant, and it gives the average person uh an idea of how the financial system works from the inside, and where there's two sets of rules, one set for the people on Main Street and the other set for for insiders on uh on Wall Street.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the whole GameStop situation, the whole Ken Griffin thing uh from Citadel, how order flow works.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the whole game, you know, how it's played with definitions that pop up on the screen that are narrated by Sean so people can get an education on how the markets work.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's a film that would be great for every college economic school to view because it gives them uh, you know, a real idea of how the markets work.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, there are honest people and they're dishonest people.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's been the way that way from the beginning of time.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_02: People try to game assist them, and and then there's a mixed in with very, very, very good people.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_02: And there are very, very good people that work on Wall Street, but there's a lot, uh, a lot of it from the highest level is an inside game.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_02: Or why else would they allow uh a lot of these shorts and spoofing that go on for decades and decades, certainly like they have been in the gold and silver market.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_02: And it's amazing to me why people haven't gone arrested.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_02: They just get fined, then they they do it again.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_02: And then they get forget caught, they get fined again, and they call it the cost of doing business.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the timing for this actually couldn't have been better.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so it's good that you held it back.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um and um making it accessible in a in a very uh a very easy way for people to invest in um the future, um, be part of the solution.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_03: So that we're gonna put but both links up, um Sean's link, um, your link.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_03: Well, of course, you're both you're both collaborating in each of those.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I'm gonna encourage people to click on and take that journey with you.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_03: But I really want to thank you um uh for for joining us uh today, um Sean and Pete and Um and please we'll follow up on this.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but those links I strongly recommend people take the time to click on it, investigate it, find out what is there for themselves, and it's about information.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: How can you make good good decisions without good information?
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's what this is all about, that's what our podcasts are about, that's what everything's about.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's about information.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_03: And uh thank you for sharing it and um with us today, and thanks for and Sean, thank you for racing out off the train to to London.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_03: And uh Pete, uh I know it's uh early days for you, but it's getting late for us.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_03: So I want to thank you for um for for for uh spending that time with us today.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and thank you, Andrew, for being who you are.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, you that your your era of people were a godsend for somebody like me.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_02: Because before I met you, when my father introduced me to economics, I was 21 in the gold and silver market.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you I used to watch you.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_02: I used to, Bill Murphy used to say, I used to follow, follow Eric Sprott.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_02: I used to follow all these uh particular people.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: And to be able to interview you and to call you my friend is a blessing.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I really appreciate and uh want to say God bless you for the work you do.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_02: You're really a true gentleman that provides a service to uh uh humanity and and education and sound money and and you know protections uh of their economic infrastructure, which is how the world runs, my friend.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, thank you, and bless you both.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: All right, there you have it.
• 1:01:27
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• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: And a huge thanks to Andrew McGuire and our featured guests, of course, Peter Antico and Sean Stone for that amazing interview.
• 1:01:42
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• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:06
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• 1:02:12
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