Latest / The Breakfast Club / Controversial Black Jokes and Growing Pains: Andrew Schulz on the Pivot and Waka Flocka Wanting Love Again
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- 0:47Speaker 1: Jewet, I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about
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- 0:53Speaker 1: Lauren came in hot. We got through a full week
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- 1:04Speaker 1: am tired. I am tired, but I am so blessed
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- 1:10Speaker 1: This is the latest with Lauren Lorosa. This is your
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- 1:27Speaker 1: So let's get started now today I'm gonna start off
- 1:33Speaker 1: with an interview. Now, the interview that I'm referencing, You
- 1:38Speaker 1: guys definitely should go and watch it. You know, once
- 1:41Speaker 1: you go and watch it, please let me know how
- 1:42Speaker 1: you felt about it. If you felt the same way
- 1:44Speaker 1: that I did. If you didn't feel the same way
- 1:47Speaker 1: that I did, that's fine as well too, But I
- 1:48Speaker 1: would love to know, like if I was the only
- 1:50Speaker 1: one who felt some of the sentiments that I'm about
- 1:51Speaker 1: to express. So Andrew Schultz sat down with the Pivot,
- 1:57Speaker 1: Ryan Clirk and the team over there and they had
- 2:00Speaker 1: some conversations. Now, you guys will remember, and if you don't,
- 2:04Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz comedian Andrew Schultz of the Flagrant podcast. He
- 2:08Speaker 1: also does Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne. He is a comedian,
- 2:11Speaker 1: like big comedian. Like if you don't know who he is,
- 2:14Speaker 1: I don't really know how to describe him, but google
- 2:16Speaker 1: him because welcome to the party. But he had sat
- 2:20Speaker 1: down with the it's like Shits and Giggles or Shits
- 2:23Speaker 1: Giggles something like that, the podcast. I don't even care
- 2:27Speaker 1: if I get their name right because I really don't
- 2:28Speaker 1: care for them after this whole debacle. But anyway, just
- 2:31Speaker 1: added some background context. He sat down with them. They
- 2:34Speaker 1: were on his show Flagrant, where it's him and like
- 2:36Speaker 1: a few other hosts. And while they're Andrew Schultz and
- 2:41Speaker 1: the guys had begun joking about black women, and you know,
- 2:44Speaker 1: just there there were a few different jokes thrown, but
- 2:48Speaker 1: you know, some of the things that were insinuated were like,
- 2:52Speaker 1: you know, black women are stressful. We you know, we're aggressive,
- 2:55Speaker 1: we you know that whole thing. It's like the angry
- 2:57Speaker 1: black woman, the we stress our man out, we don't
- 3:00Speaker 1: know when to keep our mouth shut, like that whole thing.
- 3:01Speaker 1: And people did not take it lightly, nor did they
- 3:04Speaker 1: care for you guys know that me Andrew Schaltz have
- 3:06Speaker 1: had the conversation about this when he came to the
- 3:08Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. If you didn't see that interview, please go
- 3:10Speaker 1: take a listen to that as well. But he sat
- 3:13Speaker 1: down with the Pivot and on the Pivot they talked
- 3:15Speaker 1: about this, because when all of this happened, Ryan Clark
- 3:18Speaker 1: had actually they talked about it on the Pivot. On
- 3:20Speaker 1: that platform, and Ryan Clark shared sentiments that went pretty viral,
- 3:24Speaker 1: and in the sentiments he shared, he was basically saying, like, Okay,
- 3:28Speaker 1: so y'all are over there talking about black women, but
- 3:30Speaker 1: let me tell about the black women. I know, they're amazing.
- 3:32Speaker 1: They do this, they do that, they take care of us,
- 3:34Speaker 1: They hear the world on our back. And I'm, you know,
- 3:36Speaker 1: making things up, not making them up, but I'm paraphrasing
- 3:39Speaker 1: and just summarizing a bit. But his sentiment was that
- 3:42Speaker 1: you guys have all of these negative things to say
- 3:44Speaker 1: about black women, you want to lean into these tropes
- 3:46Speaker 1: with the black women that, in my life literally are everything.
- 3:52Speaker 1: And Andrew Schultzen and Ryan Clark had a very one
- 3:55Speaker 1: on one conversation. Either are other people in the room
- 3:57Speaker 1: about that moment Andrew Schaltz shared, you know, with Ryan
- 4:00Speaker 1: Clark that he felt like Ryan was not trolling, but
- 4:03Speaker 1: that it was like a clout chase because at that moment,
- 4:06Speaker 1: everybody was talking about Schultz and his jokes and blah
- 4:08Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Ryan made it very clear it
- 4:11Speaker 1: wasn't about you. He said, you know, basically, respectfully, I
- 4:15Speaker 1: don't care about you. I used you as a symbol
- 4:18Speaker 1: of here's what happens when it comes to black women
- 4:21Speaker 1: in these little jokey jokes. Here's what happens when it
- 4:23Speaker 1: comes to black women in this non respect Basically, he
- 4:26Speaker 1: said that he felt like it didn't feel like a joke.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Like a lot of the things that Andrew Schultz said
- 4:31Speaker 1: and that sit down with the Shits and Giggles podcast,
- 4:34Speaker 1: I feel like that's something you heard, you regurgitated, that's
- 4:38Speaker 1: how you felt. Andrew Schultz of course took that offensively.
- 4:41Speaker 1: He you know, felt like in the moment, you know,
- 4:44Speaker 1: you're throwing it on me that I don't know that
- 4:46Speaker 1: these tropes and these things exist that I don't know,
- 4:50Speaker 1: amazing women in general, but also amazing Black women, and
- 4:54Speaker 1: you know, like he kind of was offended that Ryan
- 4:56Speaker 1: thought that he was he was that ignorant to you,
- 5:00Speaker 1: you know, all of the things that you know, us
- 5:01Speaker 1: as black women deal with, the stereotypes and the walls
- 5:05Speaker 1: that we, you know, fight against. But I think Ryan's
- 5:08Speaker 1: point was it's like, well, you know, I honestly might
- 5:11Speaker 1: not have been trying to make that point, but since
- 5:13Speaker 1: we're here, if that is what you understand, if that's
- 5:16Speaker 1: what you know, why would you even make that joke.
- 5:18Speaker 1: I understood why people were bothered. For me, it was
- 5:21Speaker 1: like it was the messenger like that's never gonna land
- 5:25Speaker 1: well from white men. It's just not even if I
- 5:27Speaker 1: think it's funny as hell, like I think Andrew Shows
- 5:30Speaker 1: is funny. Especially after meeting him, I feel like, you know,
- 5:34Speaker 1: our conversation was a one and done conversation at the
- 5:36Speaker 1: breakfast club, but I feel like after meeting him, I
- 5:39Speaker 1: understand that he takes aim at everybody. You know, nobody
- 5:44Speaker 1: is a safe per se. But I do think that
- 5:49Speaker 1: there is this like thing when it comes to black women,
- 5:53Speaker 1: and I think rightfully so one of my homeboys asked
- 5:55Speaker 1: me today, like, well, you know, that's kind of unfair.
- 5:59Speaker 1: So you want him to treat you different because you're
- 6:01Speaker 1: a black woman. And I was like yeah, and he
- 6:04Speaker 1: was like, well, I don't understand that. And I was like,
- 6:06Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those things where to me,
- 6:09Speaker 1: I feel like we carry so much, we deal with
- 6:14Speaker 1: so much, we are the ingredients so much that yeah,
- 6:17Speaker 1: handle me, talk to me nice. I think that there
- 6:20Speaker 1: is just a level of understanding that doesn't have to
- 6:23Speaker 1: happen when you're white. Period. My friend actually came back
- 6:27Speaker 1: around and was like, you know what, I kind of
- 6:28Speaker 1: understand it because it's like if a white woman were
- 6:31Speaker 1: to say certain things about a black man. And they
- 6:33Speaker 1: brought this up in a podcast. They talked about Chelsea
- 6:35Speaker 1: Handler saying that because of how aggressive she is, white
- 6:38Speaker 1: men can't handle her. She was making a joke white
- 6:40Speaker 1: man can't handle her, she needed a black man, and
- 6:42Speaker 1: they were talking about how like you know that leans
- 6:44Speaker 1: into like black men have to be aggressive, they have
- 6:46Speaker 1: to be tough. And after this and after that, and
- 6:48Speaker 1: when they were telling the joke, my friend was like,
- 6:50Speaker 1: I don't really like that. I said, oh, you want
- 6:54Speaker 1: to talk about mothers, Like, okay, now you understand, And
- 6:58Speaker 1: do you think Chelsea Handler is racist? He said no,
- 7:01Speaker 1: do you think she means it will to you. He said.
- 7:03Speaker 2: No.
- 7:03Speaker 1: I'm like, but it's because it's like, who are you?
- 7:06Speaker 1: That's all that the people are saying, and that is
- 7:08Speaker 1: the conversation that they were having on the pivot. I
- 7:11Speaker 1: do think that like somebody in the room at some
- 7:12Speaker 1: point could have been like, all right, bro, all right,
- 7:14Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like comedians should be able
- 7:17Speaker 1: to be comedians. They should be able to joke, they
- 7:18Speaker 1: should be able to have a good time. But I
- 7:20Speaker 1: do think that they got to stand on their shit though,
- 7:22Speaker 1: And that's why I'm like, I don't want to even
- 7:25Speaker 1: really discuss the guys from the Shits and Giggle's podcast
- 7:27Speaker 1: who sat in that room and he ha ha joke,
- 7:30Speaker 1: he joked, and then after that we're like, oh my god,
- 7:32Speaker 1: we were so intimidating. We should have said something. If
- 7:35Speaker 1: we knew, we would have punched him in his face,
- 7:36Speaker 1: but we were just like, you know it just you know,
- 7:38Speaker 1: time and place, time and place. No, if they would
- 7:41Speaker 1: have stood on like yo, no, I thought the joke
- 7:43Speaker 1: was funny, it would have been like, okay, cool. I
- 7:45Speaker 1: think standing on it is the big thing. And that
- 7:47Speaker 1: was like when me and Andrew Schultz had the conversation
- 7:49Speaker 1: at the breakfast club. That was my whole thing. It's like, okay, cool,
- 7:51Speaker 1: if that's how you you know, you want a joke,
- 7:53Speaker 1: but like, stand on it. And I do appreciate that
- 7:55Speaker 1: he does stand on I don't mean harm by this.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. I understand He also in the Pivot
- 8:02Speaker 1: interview says he understands people that are upset. He gets it. Like,
- 8:05Speaker 1: if you're upset, he gets it. You have a right
- 8:07Speaker 1: to be upset. But he's still going to tell his joke.
- 8:10Speaker 1: I don't think that comedians, white comedians should not be
- 8:12Speaker 1: able to joke about black people and black things. I
- 8:15Speaker 1: think funny is funny. But I do think that there
- 8:18Speaker 1: are you know, cultural awarenesses and certain levels of tone
- 8:23Speaker 1: deaf that you just have to be knowledgeable of so
- 8:26Speaker 1: that when the backlash or the response comes your way,
- 8:30Speaker 1: you know how to deal with it. And then I
- 8:31Speaker 1: think they raised a good point too. In this interview.
- 8:34Speaker 1: The conversation came up in the room of like, okay,
- 8:36Speaker 1: because Andrew Schultz is white or whoever, right, should you
- 8:39Speaker 1: only as a comedian be able to joke about things
- 8:42Speaker 1: that you've actually experienced? So like if he had actually
- 8:45Speaker 1: experienced a black woman or like whatever the case may be.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I don't think that that should be a rule either,
- 8:51Speaker 1: Like I'm so free flown when it comes to this,
- 8:53Speaker 1: But at the same time, I still kind of felt like,
- 8:55Speaker 1: m you know what you did, Like it's a hard
- 9:00Speaker 1: middle place to be in and rightfully so, I think
- 9:02Speaker 1: it depends on the day. And I think when my
- 9:04Speaker 1: friend asked me, like, as a black woman, you want
- 9:06Speaker 1: people to regard you differently, Yes, we do. But again,
- 9:10Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm still one that believes that
- 9:12Speaker 1: people should be able to laugh and joking he ha
- 9:14Speaker 1: like and all that good stuff. But I will say
- 9:16Speaker 1: like it was I felt good watching the pivot and
- 9:19Speaker 1: them having a very respectful conversation about black men, feeling like, nah,
- 9:24Speaker 1: but don't play with them though, don't do that because
- 9:27Speaker 1: other way around, black women we coming out swinging like
- 9:30Speaker 1: we we moved, like we pushing protest lines about y'all period,
- 9:35Speaker 1: And that's I think that that's the biggest thing as
- 9:37Speaker 1: well too. I think it was the optics of this
- 9:38Speaker 1: white man making the jokes regardless if you thought it
- 9:41Speaker 1: was funny or he could or not. But then it
- 9:43Speaker 1: was okay, there's these other black men who are there,
- 9:46Speaker 1: and it's no like, yo, bro, relax like. Even if
- 9:49Speaker 1: it was jokingly like yo, relax like, it was nothing.
- 9:51Speaker 1: So make sure y'all go check out that conversation on
- 9:55Speaker 1: the Pivot with Andrew Schauss. It was a really good conversation.
- 9:57Speaker 1: I would love to hear what you guys thought about,
- 9:59Speaker 1: you know, the middle point that they came to in
- 10:02Speaker 1: that conversation. Now, next up, we're gonna take a very
- 10:07Speaker 1: hard rite and head on down to the South where
- 10:10Speaker 1: the Brick Squad be at in Atlanta. Waka Flaka so
- 10:15Speaker 1: Whaka Flaka posted this video today and in the video,
- 10:19Speaker 1: he's having some internal thoughts about the fact that now
- 10:22Speaker 1: he's older and he don't want no holes no more.
- 10:26Speaker 1: He wants his woman. He say, he don't want no
- 10:29Speaker 1: thoughts no more. He wants his woman. He talks about,
- 10:32Speaker 1: you know, as you get older, becoming sensitive and more
- 10:35Speaker 1: sensitive and just wanting to be with one person, somebody
- 10:38Speaker 1: that's gonna hold you. And the people are in the
- 10:41Speaker 1: comments flaming my guy, Waka. You know I love you,
- 10:45Speaker 1: but they were flaming you, and I was kind of
- 10:50Speaker 1: I know why the people are doing it, because most
- 10:52Speaker 1: people are like, well, you had Tammy. She was a
- 10:56Speaker 1: dedicated wife, a loving wife, and you just couldn't hold
- 10:59Speaker 1: it together. It's given like waka, isn't it very I
- 11:01Speaker 1: know he's still like doing shows and performances and all that,
- 11:04Speaker 1: but it seems like he's just in the mental space
- 11:06Speaker 1: of like, I just want something a little bit more
- 11:08Speaker 1: of substance right now, not even right now, but at
- 11:11Speaker 1: this point in my life, and whatever made him arrive
- 11:14Speaker 1: to that feeling. I'm not mad at it. I know
- 11:17Speaker 1: some of you guys make me mad about it. I'm
- 11:19Speaker 1: not mad about it. And the reason why I'm not
- 11:21Speaker 1: mad about it is because I think a lot of
- 11:24Speaker 1: times as a woman, I think, and I've been guilty
- 11:27Speaker 1: of this and probably will be guilty of this again.
- 11:29Speaker 1: I think sometimes we date men and we try to
- 11:33Speaker 1: like be with men and you know, engaged and married
- 11:37Speaker 1: and having kids by these men because of where we
- 11:39Speaker 1: see them going, not where they're actually at. And I
- 11:42Speaker 1: think as a man, it's like men can kind of
- 11:45Speaker 1: like compartmentalize a little bit. It's like, Okay, I know
- 11:48Speaker 1: I might not be ready for all of this, but
- 11:50Speaker 1: let me sit back and think about it. Like what's logically.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Men are so much more logical sometimes than we are,
- 11:55Speaker 1: even when the logic is like stupidity. And let me
- 11:58Speaker 1: explain that. When I say that, I mean like, okay,
- 12:00Speaker 1: so a a man will be like, all right, I
- 12:04Speaker 1: might not be the most happiest, but this home brings
- 12:08Speaker 1: me peace. I'm here afraaidy to have kids. I know
- 12:11Speaker 1: so many men right now who are in situations where
- 12:14Speaker 1: they you know, they're married. They locked into these situations,
- 12:17Speaker 1: and to be honest with y'all, like, if they could
- 12:19Speaker 1: go and figure it all out again, they would, but
- 12:22Speaker 1: they're so locked in they can't. But it's because at
- 12:24Speaker 1: the time it made sense for like what they needed.
- 12:27Speaker 1: They needed that family unit they needed. Like some men too,
- 12:30Speaker 1: also don't feel like anything unless they're providing in a
- 12:33Speaker 1: unit like that. So they fulfill that void. They compartmentalize,
- 12:37Speaker 1: They put to the side of things that that you know,
- 12:39Speaker 1: might seem like a hoop dream and take. You know,
- 12:41Speaker 1: it's like the eighty twenty rule and lock in, and
- 12:44Speaker 1: then things happen. They're not happy, the cheating comes in
- 12:46Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. I would rather be with
- 12:48Speaker 1: a man who's like, yo, look, I'm in a space
- 12:52Speaker 1: right now where like I can't really give you everything.
- 12:55Speaker 1: And when I say be with the man, I mean
- 12:57Speaker 1: you can't really be with someone who's in this space.
- 12:58Speaker 1: But I mean I would rather have a man tell
- 13:01Speaker 1: me and be honest with me about Hey, right now,
- 13:04Speaker 1: I'm not in a space where like I can be
- 13:06Speaker 1: what you want me to be for you, Like I
- 13:08Speaker 1: can't be with you, I can't lock in. I'm not
- 13:10Speaker 1: Monogamy is not a thing that I'm doing right now.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I'm not there then, leaning. So I don't understand why
- 13:17Speaker 1: we get upset at men getting to that point, because
- 13:19Speaker 1: women get there too. Like us as women, we like
- 13:22Speaker 1: like we really act like sometimes like just because a
- 13:26Speaker 1: man is a man, like we're both not like human
- 13:29Speaker 1: like as women, Yeah, I think that we do have
- 13:31Speaker 1: the tendency to lean in a little bit more, locking
- 13:33Speaker 1: a little bit more or whatever. So it seems depending
- 13:36Speaker 1: on the man that you're dealing with. But like we
- 13:38Speaker 1: all have that time in our life where we're like, oh, okay,
- 13:41Speaker 1: like I gotta do the kids thing, It's time to
- 13:44Speaker 1: buy a crib. Okay, normal clubs, maybe just lounge just now,
- 13:49Speaker 1: you know, maybe not even lounges, maybe cute, little dinner,
- 13:51Speaker 1: little drink, a little happy hour. It's time to have them.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Like we all have that shift in our life where
- 13:55Speaker 1: it's just like substance. I want more, I want a level?
- 14:00Speaker 1: What up? I need to do more? What's wrong would
- 14:02Speaker 1: a man be allowed about that? I don't understand it,
- 14:04Speaker 1: because when you're getting the other thing, a man who
- 14:07Speaker 1: is playing all these games, not saying much of anything.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Now now we all andressing the boy page trauma, bonding
- 14:16Speaker 1: in the comments. So I don't really understand it. But
- 14:18Speaker 1: the girls are dragging him. So I wonder know how
- 14:20Speaker 1: y'all feel. Please go take a listen to that Waka
- 14:22Speaker 1: Flocka video. I don't know if Waka serious, why could
- 14:24Speaker 1: play so dang much? I don't really know, but take
- 14:26Speaker 1: a listen. Let me know what you think. And I
- 14:29Speaker 1: believe that Waka Flocka is actually single. Now, he did
- 14:32Speaker 1: have a little girlfriend that he was a little girlfriend,
- 14:34Speaker 1: no shade Waka. He had a girlfriend that he went
- 14:37Speaker 1: public with a little bit for a little bit of time.
- 14:40Speaker 1: This was after Tammy. I remember they like posted photos
- 14:43Speaker 1: on like the helicopter and it was like out hookah
- 14:45Speaker 1: and all of that. But I haven't seen him post
- 14:47Speaker 1: it up or you know any of that recently. So
- 14:50Speaker 1: maybe this is him throwing his shot out there to somebody. Okay,
- 14:53Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening, but take a listen
- 14:55Speaker 1: to that video. Let me know what you guys think,
- 14:57Speaker 1: and come on back. Matter of fact, don't even come well,
- 14:59Speaker 1: come on because we got more episodes ago. This is
- 15:01Speaker 1: the first week where we got more to go. But
- 15:03Speaker 1: tweet me at Laura le Rosa, you know, comment tag
- 15:07Speaker 1: on Instagram where you're listening to it, Screenshot the podcast
- 15:10Speaker 1: and post it because I want to see y'all. I
- 15:12Speaker 1: want to see what my listeners look like, and I
- 15:14Speaker 1: want to hear what you guys have to say. Do
- 15:16Speaker 1: you think that it is okay for a man to
- 15:17Speaker 1: get to wait until he is at the point, well,
- 15:20Speaker 1: most men don't wait, but to get to a point
- 15:23Speaker 1: where he is ready to be like, hey, I'm ready
- 15:24Speaker 1: to lock in. I'm at this big old age of forty,
- 15:27Speaker 1: this big old age of fifty. Now I'm ready, let's
- 15:29Speaker 1: do it. The merri saying, are kids and kids or
- 15:32Speaker 1: do you feel like it's unfair to their partners? It's
- 15:34Speaker 1: because it's like you done did all this dirt and
- 15:36Speaker 1: now not their partners with their potential partners. You didn't
- 15:38Speaker 1: did all this dirt. You didn't live your life, and
- 15:41Speaker 1: now you want to come lock me down because most
- 15:42Speaker 1: of the time too, you know they're gonna lock down
- 15:44Speaker 1: somebody younger. So let me know what y'all think. Okay,
- 15:48Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like I tell y'all
- 15:50Speaker 1: every single episode, there's always a lot to talk about.
- 15:53Speaker 1: But every single guy, every single time, you guys join
- 15:56Speaker 1: me right here to talk about it. You know I
- 15:59Speaker 1: appreciate you. I'm Lauryn de Rosa. This is the latest
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