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Jason Goff on Sherrone Moore Absurdity, Phillip Rivers Starting Again, NFL's Quarterback problem | 12.16 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 1: out at the athletic Jason Goff. Chicago's on. What's going on,
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  Speaker 1: big dog?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Feeling good. Feeling good. How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 2: Everything decent your way? I know you're on the trip
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  Speaker 2: every time I talk to you, so I want to
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  Speaker 2: make sure.
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  Speaker 1: I've been local for a little while, but I'm scheming
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  Speaker 1: on another one, man.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to holler at you.
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  Speaker 1: You just had a small child, so you can't make the.
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  Speaker 3: Run, man. But I got one.
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  Speaker 1: I got one I'm trying to figure out how to make,
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  Speaker 1: but all y'all people with, like, responsible lifestyles, y'all, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if I must do it myself, I must
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  Speaker 3: do it myself.
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  Speaker 2: See, I don't go a lot of places for vacation,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't ask or I don't, you know, confer
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  Speaker 2: with my significant other in that way. And then... I'll
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  Speaker 2: just bring something up and she'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, go. Right?
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  Speaker 2: So it doesn't occur to me to be like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going every time people go on because that's not
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  Speaker 2: the case. But I also don't check in as much
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  Speaker 2: as I should. I'll probably be able to swing something.
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  Speaker 2: Let me know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like nature. I'm into the nature joints now. So, like,
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't got to be like, hey, man, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You might want to bring some boots. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm in the Arctic right now, brother. So I
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  Speaker 2: got everything that I might need. I got the expedition coats.
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  Speaker 2: Let me know. Let me know.
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  Speaker 3: I will holler at you.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, we got a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to get to. I feel like people
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  Speaker 1: are still hot on this Jerome Moore story. Did I
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  Speaker 1: see a picture of the internet of him walking around
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  Speaker 1: with the wife and the kids? Like, He got really
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  Speaker 1: famous really fast and not for coaching Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what is to be expected going forward.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, did I call him Sherron Moore in
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  Speaker 3: my head? I felt like I said Sherron.
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  Speaker 2: You did. No, I know. Yeah, I know the Brown. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: I was doing Sherron Wright for McClellan Center for like
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  Speaker 2: a good two weeks. Not a week, but like two weeks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: about 10 days.
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  Speaker 3: We just had that A. now, man. I saw the
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  Speaker 3: people in the comments that's like, yo, you like my granddaddy.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: That happens well before granddaddy, right? I'm just your pops.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: But yes, every now and then it's going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: but you know who I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So don't be a jerk. You feel me? Don't
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  Speaker 2: point it out in that way. Like I was saying,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect because at every turn,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't expect what was happening. At first, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is just one. Because this is the thing. I
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  Speaker 2: hadn't gotten got by a parody account in damn near
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  Speaker 2: a decade. And I don't repost and do all that
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  Speaker 2: stuff as much as back in the day because there's
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  Speaker 2: so much less trustworthy information out there. I sent it
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  Speaker 2: to the group chat and you were like, yo, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, thank God, because I haven't had that experience
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  Speaker 2: in so long. Every turn, I was like, this ain't real.
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  Speaker 2: And then that would be real. And then I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this can't be real. And then that's not real. And
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  Speaker 2: then the next thing is real. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: to expect from going forward, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I have never seen people fall for it more than
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  Speaker 1: they were on this story. And I'm not really saying
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  Speaker 1: this as a judgment, right?
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  Speaker 3: Because the thing when, as they call it in Espanol,
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  Speaker 3: in equis, see?
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  Speaker 1: When Ekis changed the blue check to mean nothing, it
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  Speaker 1: got real tough. But people's brains still take the blue
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  Speaker 1: check as meaning something.
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  Speaker 2: I actually read the bio and got got.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying the bios are just enough.
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  Speaker 1: And the other part is we are at the age
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  Speaker 1: now where it's new generations coming into game and it's
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  Speaker 1: people that we don't necessarily know.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so you got to look a little closer.
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  Speaker 1: But now it was wild stories coming with Sharon Moore
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  Speaker 1: on them. And now people was people was just getting
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  Speaker 1: got left and right.
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  Speaker 3: So many people were sitting. It's like, again, friends of
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  Speaker 3: this program.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We're sending me different bogus joints about him. And the
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  Speaker 1: problem was, while the things that were being alleged were crazy,
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  Speaker 1: the actual story seemed like something from a parody.
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  Speaker 3: Account, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. I mean, to have
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  Speaker 2: that job at that age and to screw it up
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  Speaker 2: the way somebody at a D3 school would be the
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  Speaker 2: town idiot for, right? Like somebody at some college in
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  Speaker 2: upper Wisconsin, if you're walking around campus with this on
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  Speaker 2: your jacket, oh yeah, we laughing at you for the
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  Speaker 2: next decade plus. We actually gonna make rules because of you.
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  Speaker 2: Now the issue is, hey man, You ain't got no
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  Speaker 2: buddies in the coaching fraternity game? Like, at some point,
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  Speaker 2: you talk about game being handed down. At some point,
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  Speaker 2: game gets handed down. And I'm going to be real
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  Speaker 2: with you. There is nobody who I think is more
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  Speaker 2: about football to not follow the blueprint on if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to act like this. It's Jim Harbaugh, gang. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't have somebody who was in front of him who
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  Speaker 2: was probably wilding out like that. Jim is football, glasses
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  Speaker 2: of milk, and family, and that's it. So you didn't
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  Speaker 2: even have a player above you that you could be like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is how you play it, right?
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  Speaker 3: That is real talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you see assistants who learn from their coaches.
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  Speaker 3: You asked Jim Harbaugh for some advice on that. Jim
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  Speaker 3: Harbaugh's advice is.
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  Speaker 1: Have you thought about being faithful to your wife?
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  Speaker 3: Focus, motherfucker.
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  Speaker 2: And also, before your wife, football might be more important, too.
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  Speaker 2: So don't mess up the foot. That's what I always.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: OK. I was about to say I did the math wrong. Well, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: He served on Charlie Strong's staff.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 3: Could have got some game from that one.
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  Speaker 1: Although he wound up in a very precarious situation that
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  Speaker 1: implied that his pimping wasn't nearly as tight as it
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  Speaker 1: needed to be either.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we've been around a lot of people in this
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  Speaker 2: industry and in this profession. And whether it be athletes
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  Speaker 2: or coaches, let's face it, man. Like, a lot of people...
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  Speaker 2: get that kind of attention because of what they are.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: We know people who got to get it out the
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  Speaker 2: mud because of who they are and how they present
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  Speaker 2: themselves and how many situations they can see from afar
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  Speaker 2: and what kind of instincts that you have honed over
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  Speaker 2: the years of, you know, parking lot pimping or understanding
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  Speaker 2: that this ain't how this goes or, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't become more handsome. You know, that kind of vibe. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know the dudes who you, like, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to get caught up by somebody who is
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  Speaker 2: not going to be wearing clear heels because they met you.
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  Speaker 2: And you know the cats who can stand clear of it. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I know too many that succumb to this kind of
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  Speaker 2: behavior and then are really sloppy about it. And then
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  Speaker 2: on top of it, you know, breaking in like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's just nasty.
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  Speaker 3: But hold on.
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  Speaker 1: So before we get to the break-in part, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying again, I think he's going to, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to spend some time at the Michigan State Hotel, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 1: But before that, he didn't get caught up like he
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  Speaker 1: got extorted, right? Like, he did not, like, kind of
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  Speaker 1: the ways we describe him, that's not the way that
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  Speaker 1: he got caught up.
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  Speaker 3: He got caught up.
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  Speaker 1: Misunderstanding that, like, they're going to fire you as soon
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  Speaker 1: as they can.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I think that is the thing. I think that
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  Speaker 3: we have.
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  Speaker 1: Reached a different point with black coaching by and large,
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  Speaker 1: where A, like, he can get the job, okay? But
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  Speaker 1: across the board, not just for black people, patience is
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  Speaker 1: thinner than it has ever been, right? In this NIL
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  Speaker 1: era and all of this stuff, I mean, we see
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  Speaker 1: cats get fired in the middle of September.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like, the patience is thinner for everybody, which means the
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  Speaker 1: patience is really thin for you, okay?
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 3: His thing is, you know, Adam Schefter. This was wild.
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  Speaker 1: But Adam Schefter got on TV immediately after it happened.
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  Speaker 1: It was like Jerome Moore saying that the people were
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  Speaker 1: out to get him and it made it seem like
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  Speaker 1: he was paranoid. And then we saw the report that
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  Speaker 1: said that for whatever reason, that woman just decided to
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  Speaker 1: call up and let him know she had, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: been having an affair with him. Um, that sounds like
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  Speaker 1: I would think that they were trying to get me
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  Speaker 1: under those same exact circumstances.
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  Speaker 3: And what you can't do is make it easy for them.
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  Speaker 2: How many black coaches from the times that we were
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  Speaker 2: kids had a variance in what kind of personality type
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  Speaker 2: they could be. Right. Like as a kid, I knew
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  Speaker 2: that Art Shell was the black head coach in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how you had to go about things, right?
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  Speaker 2: Even here in Chicago, Lovey Smith, a certain temperament, a
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  Speaker 2: certain demeanor. So that's why when Herman Edwards is out.
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  Speaker 3: Here screaming at white folks. He's the only one with jokes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, screaming at white folks in press conferences and having
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  Speaker 2: a sense of humor and doing all these things. Like,
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  Speaker 2: there's always had to be this understated, very serious, I'm
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  Speaker 2: only about football. Like, there can't be no Black Lane Kiffin, right?
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  Speaker 3: Hold up, even in basketball. Which one of them got jokes, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because, like, you had, like, the Nola Richardson, John Thompson archetype, right?
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  Speaker 1: And that was a fairly intense brother, right? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like Nola Richardson.
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  Speaker 2: Scared the white folks kind of brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Which, by the way, is a precarious, like, role to
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  Speaker 3: try to take.
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  Speaker 1: Because it does look like Nola got a sense of
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  Speaker 1: humor on his own time, but not at work.
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  Speaker 3: That was, no, I can't get any white folks an itch.
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  Speaker 2: No, sir. And what you have to do if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to scare the white folks and talk to them
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  Speaker 2: crazy is be fucking great. Right? You can't be no
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  Speaker 2: regular cat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this raises an interesting question I hadn't thought
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  Speaker 1: about because we're saying that, like, you had to have
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  Speaker 1: that personality to be the black coach. Isn't that you
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  Speaker 1: had to have that personality to be the black coach
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  Speaker 1: or that being the black coach will get you that personality?
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  Speaker 1: You will be perpetually on guard and stern because you
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  Speaker 1: cannot show them weakness. First time you tell a joke,
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  Speaker 1: now they're going to have you out here dance.
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  Speaker 3: Right? You know, like, perhaps it's that.
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  Speaker 2: Or you just got to be Mike Tomlin and get
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  Speaker 2: hired by a place, you know, on your own merit, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but hired by a place that you'll be at for
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  Speaker 2: 20 years.
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  Speaker 1: But he's the same personality as these other guys that
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  Speaker 1: we've been discussing. He was like that when he was 33,
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  Speaker 1: however it was when he got the job. Now, old
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  Speaker 1: boy Fran Brown up there at Syracuse, he the first
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  Speaker 1: full-on black weirdo. that I think that we've ever been
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  Speaker 1: allowed to have. Deion Sanders obviously is of a whole
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  Speaker 1: different world. But Fran Brown, the one that say that
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  Speaker 1: he don't shower after losses because only winners get to wash.
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  Speaker 1: And we figured out that his woman was black when
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  Speaker 1: he was like, my wife say I can't come home
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  Speaker 1: after that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a certain intensity with Fran that is, entertaining,
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  Speaker 2: but like, like 6% scary for me, where it's like, if,
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  Speaker 2: if it's time to hang out with friend, I hope
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  Speaker 2: he's like, Hey, he's not intense enough to hang out
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  Speaker 2: with me. And it makes it easy for me to
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  Speaker 2: go the other way. Like, yeah, there's never been a,
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  Speaker 2: there's never really been a, you know, a Rex or
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  Speaker 2: buddy Ryan type of black fella that was allowed to
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  Speaker 2: run one of these franchises, not to mention in college football,
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  Speaker 2: where the town is, it is wrapped around that football team, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like Ann Arbor is the university of Michigan and vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: Like Marcus Freeman right now in Notre Dame, you sitting
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  Speaker 2: there like, Hey man, he smiling. He looked good on camera. Got,
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  Speaker 2: got enough wins out here. He using the Beijing in
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  Speaker 2: a way where, you know, the white folk can't pick
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  Speaker 2: up on it. Like there's, there's a certain, certain archetype
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  Speaker 2: of brother that you must be to go forward. And, uh, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the days where the Black Lane
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  Speaker 2: Kiffin can can be hired.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie, though.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of can't believe that Marcus Freeman has gotten
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  Speaker 1: as far as he has.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that?
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  Speaker 1: OK, so you remember just how polarizing Cam Newton was?
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  Speaker 3: Auburn Cam Newton, right?
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, there's a number of different reasons why
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  Speaker 1: this might why that may have been the case. But
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  Speaker 1: ESPN did a 30 for 30, which really was more
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  Speaker 1: of a like 2020. But it was a 30 for
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  Speaker 1: 30 about the Auburn-Alabama rivalry. And they had a couple
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  Speaker 1: in there that was a man who was an Alabama
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  Speaker 1: fan and a woman who was an Auburn fan. And
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  Speaker 1: this was made, I want to say like 2012, 2013, whatever, right?
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  Speaker 1: So the Cam Newton situation is still fresh. and they
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  Speaker 1: got them two sitting on the couch, the married couple,
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  Speaker 1: and they looking at something on the screen, and Cam
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  Speaker 1: Newton came on that screen, and I looked at the
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  Speaker 1: way that she jumped up, and she started clapping her hands,
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  Speaker 1: and I looked.
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  Speaker 3: At that man, and I was like, oh, levels.
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  Speaker 1: Levels are at play here and I'm just saying that
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  Speaker 1: if it was a documentary about the Notre Dame USC
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  Speaker 1: rivalry and she was the Notre Dame woman and he
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  Speaker 1: was the USC dude and Marcus Freeman jumped up on
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  Speaker 1: the screen she would pop up clapping her hands the
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  Speaker 1: exact same way and that white man would be over
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  Speaker 1: there looking at it the exact, the exact same level
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  Speaker 1: of salt.
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  Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying? And so, and so I'm
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  Speaker 3: a little surprised that, that they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm surprised that they is okay with it. I
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  Speaker 1: also want to throw something else out there. I've been
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  Speaker 1: seeing people talking about Marcus Freeman and his Beijing. And
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, that man puts
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  Speaker 1: so much shoe polish in his hairline. Like it's like, he's,
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  Speaker 1: his shit like a weave in the sense that you
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  Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that he's not trying to fool anybody.
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  Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Like this is, he just, he just, he wants to
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  Speaker 1: wear hair and in order for him to wear hair,
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  Speaker 1: he has to do the cheating on the front end.
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  Speaker 1: And people are making the argument that why don't he
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  Speaker 1: just come on home? Like me and you, we live in,
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  Speaker 1: we live in several lives.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: I was about to say, you know, you, uh, your
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  Speaker 1: hat is like a shark's fin right now. Like they realize,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you, you, No, I'm not hat fishing.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do that to me. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think you hat fishing. But LL Cool J,
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  Speaker 1: you just LL Cool J-ing right now, right? Like you
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  Speaker 1: got your hat. This is what it is, right? But
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  Speaker 1: you and I are both fortunate enough that we possess
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  Speaker 1: the proper symmetry, shape, volumetrics, however you want to put it,
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  Speaker 1: to allow us to do this. Let me tell you something, man.
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman, like LeBron, he don't have a head that
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  Speaker 1: work for this. Like that's why he's had to go
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  Speaker 1: through all the things he's had Because going bald is just,
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  Speaker 1: it's not the same play for everybody. You got this
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  Speaker 1: motherfucker looking like Soda Pop Penske. Or your shit look
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  Speaker 1: like in the cartoons when they be like one lump
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  Speaker 1: of two and they hit you on the head twice
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  Speaker 1: and your joint pop up.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: The Scottie Pippen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Scottie Pippen.
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  Speaker 2: He had the waves.
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  Speaker 3: Young people don't know about this moment. This is an
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  Speaker 3: all-time moment.
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  Speaker 1: The 1994 All-Star Game. Scottie Pippen showed up with two things.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: One that doesn't jump out so much anymore, which is
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: those crazy red shoes.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Red flights. Yeah.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: But like now you just wear any old color. But
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: at the time it was wild.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: But the other part was Scottie decided to shave his head.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: And It looked like somebody had snatched him by the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: top of the.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Head and was just go all over his head.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Like there's no way he could have done it with
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: a razor because there's no way he wouldn't have bled
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: to death because he had like, you know, the pack
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: of hot.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Dogs that the bad dudes be having in the back.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: He had it all over his head. Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Like Shane Battier, whole nother world from Shane Battier.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Ooh, Shane's, yeah, Shane's was a little sketch.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: It was with Scottie, but that's how wavy Scottie's, Scottie had.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Waves and no hair is what we're saying.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: See, the thing I do get with Marcus Freeman is
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of people who still ain't on, though. Like,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: we're on, right? We understand the game and how he's
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: playing it. But to have kind of like the wave
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: nouveau vibe and the curl and the Beijing, that's just
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: diabolical work where you're just looking at him like, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: know that somebody's behind that curtain, Wizard, and I got
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: to find out who it truly is.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's Richard Pryor.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, but the problem that he has, though, man, if
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: he go bald, you know what?
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: He got to change his whole steeze up.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Like, if he go bald, he got to start walking
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: around with no shirt on and some black hammer pants
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and be out here looking like the bad guy in
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a Bruce Lai movie. you know like look i'm just
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: telling you look at the shape of his head if
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: he were to shave his head with the rest of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the features that he got.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: He's a full force backup dancer yeah he looked like
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: he looked like a boss in not a bruce lee
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: movie a bruce lie movie he would be that guy
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: now please understand this the ladies are hearing that.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Like well i think you might want to give it
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: a try right but for him he ain't He doesn't
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: have what you need.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have the essentials for going ball.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: So instead, he just putting that Kiwi on there.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: That's why when you get to a certain age and
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: it's time to do this. You know, you got to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: do it in a way where, like, we can't guess
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: about if you had the procedure done, right? Like, you
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: got to be like, you know what? I'm on the
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: way out. Just jump out. I never forget. Never, ever forget.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: A buddy of mine was walking behind me, and we
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: had a pack of girls. This is a long, long, long, long,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: long time ago. He was walking behind me. I'm just
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: making sure. He was walking behind me, and we're walking
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: to a day party. And the man says, hey, man,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you got to go and fit up top, ain't you?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what? And it's when
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I returned from Chicago, returned from Atlanta to Chicago. I'm like,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you know what? Yeah, it's time. And I had been
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: doing it throughout my life or whatever. You know, I
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: remember Sam Mitchell, he and I sitting in an Atlanta
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: radio studio. And he was like, you know, the procedure
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: don't cost too much. And I was like, you know what?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Y'all ain't just going to be recommending that this should
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: happen in this manner. Let me just go ahead. But
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the maintenance is an issue. But I am glad that
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I have the proper circumference and the matrix to make
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: sure you look okay.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Did you see T.I. got caught with the hat off?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It's over. It's over.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: This is what T.I. 's problem with that is. T.I., what,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: he listed 5'9 in the media, self-reported 5'9?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I think that's what he's saying, 5'9 with the heart
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: of a six-folk.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I think he's a self-reported 5'9. He strikes me as
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the type of gentleman that would take it very personally
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: if I did not give him the 5'9.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, for sure. I've actually been around T.I.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in those same Atlanta studios. I'm picking up what you're
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: putting down.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I'm giving him his 5'9. I'm just saying this.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant been getting away with the yarmulke for a
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: very long time because that yarmulke is seven feet off
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the ground, right? When you 5'9, yeah, you got to
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: keep the hat on. Like, this is what's required. Like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I saw people who had all them jokes on T.I.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and see, this the trick bag. Like, y'all want to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: wear these, y'all want to be old but wear these
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: long hairstyles. That's not compatible after a certain point.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Once you hit that Jerry Rice point in your life
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: where it's like, there's no reason to have braids or cornrows.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I don't have to do this. I'm one of the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: greatest of all time. If T.I. came out tomorrow bald
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and just stopped wearing hats, he'd be like, yo, that man,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: he had been in trap music. I'm not going. I'm here.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm here.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Jerry Rice had a cul-de-sac and cornrows. At the same time,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and my white homie Kirk in California said that having
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: braids and a bald spot is the black man's comb over.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And that was real talk, man. Like nobody has ever
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: held on to youth more than Jerry Rice.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: In fact, you watched that commercial.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: They did with all those Hall of Famers acting like
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: they old with Randy Moss and Dan Marino and Emma Smith.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: The only one that didn't really make it seem like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: only thing, I think Jerry Rice acted like the ball,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: like it was, no, that was Randy Moss who was like, wow,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: that pass was hard. Jerry Rice was not giving anybody
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the satisfaction of thinking that Jerry Rice is old.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: No, he's still on that, I will beat you in
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a press man coverage type of vibe. Like there's certain
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: guys who ain't gonna never turn that shit off.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Let's go run up that hill right now.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Right now.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Right now, Jerry Rice is just waiting on that call.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Jerry Rice on that Phillip Rivers, just waiting on that call.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, that Phillip Rivers, you know, people talk about-
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: He gonna.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Start again next week.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And again, if I'm Riley Leonard, how do you, like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: if it was a regular job, you would quit.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: You feel terrible. And also, on top of all this is,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: if you're on that defense, or if you're Jonathan Taylor,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: it's like, wait a minute, you mean to tell me
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: in the Indianapolis Colts franchise history that, you know, Peyton
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Manning was a blip in terms of, I've been here
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: for the Burt Jones years, right? Like, In the history
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: of this franchise, you think there's going to be moments
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: where we're going to capitalize on having somebody else's throwaway
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: take him to an 8-4 record. And all of a
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: sudden say, you know what? All this development, all this evaluation,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: all this shit that we've been talking about here with
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: these players, at least for the last two, three years.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Let's see if a dude who is on a high
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: school football field with a headset... With a headset. Want
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to come out here and do this, man? Like, come on, dog.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Come on. It was, you know, the Jeff Saturday thing
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: blew my mind a few years ago.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Why you say was? It ain't no was. It's still
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I can't believe any of them are willing to risk
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: this for another week to give this a try. My
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: buddy Nick has made a point, and we were talking
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: about this over the weekend, and he made the point quickly,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and he was just.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Like, these coaches and their systems, And their.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Inability, like nothing matters more than the idea that you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: know how to run my system and that my system
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: can crack any code that you have. And look, that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: starts with Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh is the first. Just
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: do what I say. Everything is built in. You don't
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: even need to call audibles. Right. Everything you need is
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: right here. If you just do what I say, everything
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: will be okay.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Lawrence Taylor for making that happen, by
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the way. Oh my God.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor made people.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: That's the difference between Lawrence Taylor and all these other cats.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And why I still say he is the number one.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor made them invent stuff.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: West Coast offense. We're going to throw to a spot
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: because he's going to be here at some point.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: How about this?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: The H-back invented to stop Lawrence Taylor. As football has
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: been established in this day and.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Time, there's nothing that we can do about this. We
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: have to change things around here.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: You know what, man? I needed this kind of conversation
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: because I was thinking about it this morning and how
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: my fandom has changed. This weekend, I was in Los
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Angeles and the Heisman, ceremony had happened. And I remember
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: there was a time where as a kid, it was
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: event television. Like I am, I am about to learn
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: things about three dudes who I kind of been watching.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And hopefully the two dudes I have been watching and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: rooting for going to get this thing. Like I remember
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: having arguments about Larry Fitzgerald's year or Christian McCaffrey. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: think Christian McCaffrey's Heisman was the last one where I
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: was like, tapped into like who really should win and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: why they should win. And all these like, not just
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: nostalgic conversations, but like the regular conversations that we had.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I think the whole social media part, we were talking
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: about what's happening with the parody accounts. Man, there are
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: so many interactions that I just don't have in this
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: business anymore that the fan in me still wants to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: have that have just moved total departments like the Heisman
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: ceremony out of my entire thinking. And I know it's
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: because we're getting older. I know families and life and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: all these other things. Yeah. But shit, man, like I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: sitting there, I'm sitting there watching people have this should, should,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: should door have won the Heisman two years ago because
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: of what Fernando Mendoza conversation. I'm like, this ain't it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Like this, this ain't what I used to talk about
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: when the Heisman was important for me. Right. But yeah, man, it's, it's,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I'm glad these kinds of conversations still exist because boy, they,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you know, it is a cesspool out there. Like I watch,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I watch, I watch good, good.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I ain't really cared about
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the Heisman this year, right? When's the last time you did, though?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: When's the last time you had tapped in, like, I
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: think Marshall Falk is by far the greatest player in
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: all of college football, and because he's a freshman, he
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: ain't going to win it. This shit is crazy.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: If you put the years in front of me, right,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I could probably talk about it a little bit more,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it doesn't jump off the top of my
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: head like it did.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: But I will say this.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming they don't allow you to do NIL deals
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: for alcohol companies. Because if they did, they would have
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: been sponsored by Modelo.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: It would have been a full-fledged... We got Mendoza. We
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: got Diego.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: We got the boy Rodriguez from Texas Tech.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And it would have been great for Modelo.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this on the air, but
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like In order to get a Modelo commercial, Tony Gonzalez
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: had to be Tony Gonzalez.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Had to be Anderson.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Paak to get in a Modelo commercial. They call a
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Roberto Garza, a NFL, a Hispanic legend in the Modelo commercial.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: They got some woman they say is a DJ that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: used to be 5-0.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Anderson.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Paak is the coldest musician of his generation. That's what
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: he had to do to get a Modelo commercial. Now
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they can put these cats in the Modelo commercials who
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: deserve to be in a Modelo commercial, right? Who are
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: living up to the standards that everybody has to be.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Shout out to you, Francisco. Shout out to you, Diego.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Shout out to you, Jacob. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Modelo could have really run it over here.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like the Chris Rock joke where he goes,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I'm cold as shit. And you know who lives next
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: door to me? A dentist. Yes. This motherfucker ain't create teeth.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: That's how the Modelo commercials be feeling, but I don't
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: feel like we made enough of a big deal about this. Like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: this really was a great year for Latino football players. Like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: we had the generation of football integration, but now we're
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: seeing all the Nigerian cats, for example. They're really starting
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to get in and make their mark in playing football. Look,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Texas, man. It just really wasn't
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that many cold Mexicans out here getting it done. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: don't have an explanation. I'm not implying anything that is
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: about genetics or anything else, but in a state that's
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: got a whole... That's the thing about Texas. Texas got
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people. Texas got a lot of Mexicans,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and the Mexicans were not really playing high-level football like that,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: but Hey, if the game is changing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Also, by the way, I know these cats at least
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: aren't all Mexican.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I know that Francisco Mendoza is not Mexican. Just so
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not letting the Houston slip out and
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: just assume that everybody is Mexican. However, Jacob Rodriguez at
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, you are Mexican until proven otherwise.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: And if I'm wrong, I'm just wrong.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: But Roger Goodell would love to hear you say shit
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: like that because, man, you talk about how long this
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: sport has been trying to make itself more popular to
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: everyone else outside the people who already love it and
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: know it, man. Like, I remember watching all them bad
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: NFL Europe games and everything. And all the other things.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: And now you're going over the big pond four, five, six,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: seven times a year and getting the game out to people.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And it seemed like there had been movements, right? Like
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you had the Pacific Islander, Asian-American kind of, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the dude, all the cats who had the Vida Vella
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: type of archetype. Yeah, like now you mentioned the Nigerian
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: homies are running this thing. Like, I don't know. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: don't know where, as we cut more and more the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: middle class of actual participants of sports, I don't know
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: where the next wave is coming from because I know
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: it ain't out in the bay with all the tech kids.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Where do you think it is going next then, if
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: that's the case?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: That's a good question, right?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Because you can have stardom in a way that the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: NFL offers that really no other sport does, right? Basketball-wise,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you can look at greats who got introduced to basketball
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and how it happened. The fact that Joel Embiid is
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: a part of the NBA African movement the way he
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: is and has won an MVP and is an amazing player.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Basketball is a worldwide sport in a different way. Soccer,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: we already know the vibes, but with football, there's so
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: many opportunities. You got all these rugby dudes coming over
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: here like, hey man, there's a 53-man spot. I can
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: find one of those jobs.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I just thought about also
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: while you was talking about that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: The AAPI, right? Asian, American, Pacific Islanders.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: All of us who are not white, we just be
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: clustering up, dog. We just got to put together a squad. Like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about it until you were talking
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: right there. Like, brother, that is a broad classification. Latino
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: is a broad class.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Black. Black.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Is a broad classification. There's a whole lot of people
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: in that tent that don't like each other.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: You're going to get the FBA and the ADOS people involved.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: They're going to jump.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: On my ass.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: We just got to all hold it together. We got
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: a power of numbers, right? We just all got to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: hold it together. When you started talking about Pacific Islanders
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: right there, I was just thinking about that. Like, what
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: do they and they got to do with one another?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: And it's, we need these numbers, dog.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And they spinning and they providing resources, right?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Like the natural resources that the sport needs is right
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: there for you.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I also imagine in clicking up on that, there was
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: some of the Pacific Islanders that was like, look, we
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: got to go join up with them because otherwise they
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: going to think that we down with, you know, that
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: over there. I would love to go to the barbershop
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that two would go to in Hawaii. I want to
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: see what's on the wall in there.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Listen, if you ever want to find out Truly find
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: out what happens, especially like in Major League Baseball, where
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: how guys get indoctrinated to the game and all that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: other stuff. All they do is, hey, look, you can,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you know, shout out to Fernando Tatis Jr. He got
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the dreads. He got the swag. He wears the clothes
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and all that. But hey, top step. when that anthem
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: come on. You know what I'm saying? I know you've
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: seen the dwindling numbers around here. Don't get caught up
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: in a life too much, though. You know what I mean?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Don't get it twisted. You know what I mean? There's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: a covering that is necessary and also telling you how
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to succeed. Yeah, people find out quick, like, hey, we
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: should be more over here with us because at some point,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a maddening at them. You know
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Top step of that dugout, homeboy.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: You can get them rap lyrics off on the walk-up song.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: If you want to.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did the salute just now. I
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: saw one of the Broncos doing the mile-high salute the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: other day. I'm like, think of where we've come since 2016. Yo, man.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: We had to put in racism in the end zones
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: and all these other things, and now we're back to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the mile-high salute.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Brother, it's so wild.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: The only people still talking about it is the NFL, right?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: At least they still, look, they took in racism off,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: but it still take all of us.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? They still choose love. Inspire change. Yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: they're the only ones still doing that stuff.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody else, like, the police never stopped killing us.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Just to be clear. They never took a break.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Right and they did not they kept on going and
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: everybody just got bored we got bored it wasn't hot
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: anymore right tired.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Of it yeah yeah oh my gosh.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: When i saw when i saw burner boy at the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: uh salt lake city uh all-star performance i was like
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: oh yeah you cats uh you jaws and zions of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the world and get your shit together there's a wave
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: that is coming okay the lakers the lakers are showtime
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: and white right now okay like yannis has the world
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: on tilt okay like hey just take a look around
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: at the landscape and who they are looking around saying
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: hey we got a lot more basketball players who are
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: playing uh fast-paced style sharing the ball not talking shit
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: this is turning into hockey on hardwood in a way
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: that i don't think people are very aware of just
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: look at the basketball teams man just look at look
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: at what's happening right now it's It's super different. It's
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: super different.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: It's different.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: But coming up next, speaking of different, do the Bears
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: have a squad and a coach and?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I already know where you're going to go on this
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: quarterback discussion, but we'll see. Coming up next.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Goff. Hey, man. It was like a degree in
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  Speaker 3: Chicago on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I had already decided that there was only, I haven't
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: talked about how Shadua played in that game. I watched
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it so much. It looked like, um, his boys dropped
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of passes that would have made things better. Um,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: but it was like a degree, right? It's his third
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: or fourth start, whatever it was. I was not, there
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: was only so much I was going to say about
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: him based on the performance, unless he was excellent.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: It just didn't feel like that would be fair. Um,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, meanwhile, was excellent against a defense that we've
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: all thought of as being pretty good, like with Myles
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Garrett out there on the field. Do you have the guy?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. And there was a recalibration of the expectation. Maybe.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I'd say halfway through this assignment here with the 30-some-odd
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: starts where it's like, okay, if he's smoking these layups
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: this consistently, then maybe it's that second tier, top of
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the second tier guy that in the NFL you can
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: win with, obviously. Look what's happening around the league. This
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: is a hodgepodge of NFL quarterbacks who are really winning
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: out here over these last couple of years. But man,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: there are the plays, brother, where you've seen as a
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Bears fan for years that The hawk chopped that bitch down.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: See for the night.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: This is the first time that we've used the hawk
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: in a football context, but that is the most appropriate
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: use of the hawk ever because we are talking about
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: not the feeling of the hawk, but the function of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the hawk.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Man, that wind off that lake with that degree. Telling
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you now, it was the difference in the game in
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: a large way for me and Shador and Caleb. Like,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I've seen Steve Stenstrom and Craig Krenzel and baseball players,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Chad Hutchinson, I've seen that shit knock passes down and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: it have to, you know, make a passing game very,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: very elementary, right, to intermediate sometime. Kyle Long talked about
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: it as well. He talked about how when he was
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: a Kansas City chief, he asked the coordinator, yo, what's
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: happening here because... Shit is crazy out here. The weather's
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: going wild. And then the coordinators say, yeah, we got 15.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: We ain't got to worry about that. That's the same
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: kind of vibe that Caleb is giving off. Even in
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: last season when they lost 10 games in a row.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: They lost 10 in a row. But against the Detroit
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Lions indoors, a real defense, he brought them back. It
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: was time management. And this year, he's come back in
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: games where it's like, you know what? We're used to
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: seeing those type of Bears games lost. And the only
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: thing that holds you back is that there will be
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: moments where you can see that he's counting steps instead
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: of dancing with the offense and not just letting that
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: bitch rip. But when he lets it rip, like there
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: are certain plays, the Zaccheaus touchdown the week before against
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the Packers, where it's like, that shouldn't happen. Colston Loveland
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: has become a dude who stays on his feet while
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: catching the ball. Cole Komet has had that issue recently.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: falling down and he's hurt right now. So hopefully he
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: won't be out for too long. But man, the dude
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: puts the ball in places that only five or six
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: dudes in the NFL can. And that hasn't been the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: case for Bears football for so long. Like every 20 years,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I get a good Bears team to enjoy, right? Where
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: there's 85, 05, and now 25. But even with those,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: you've watched it with Rex Grossman and Jim McMahon. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the cat who had this kind of arm Nobody really,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I won't say nobody, but people didn't really rock with
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the way that they should have.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: The way they should have, that is interesting because he's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: just Jay.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: You're talking about Jay, I'm assuming.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Jay don't make it easy, man.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I know he doesn't. I know he doesn't. But I've
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: also seen people put things aside for assholes when it's
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: time to win in this city.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: But that tells me just how much of a jerk
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: that people thought that Jay was, right? Like, white dude
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: with the super cold arm and people were still like.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: In fact, I feel like his brothers took up for
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Jay more than anybody else.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, they did. Yes, they did. I still talk to 05,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: members of that 05 team, and Jay... in a way
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that this city wasn't prepared for, was the first glance
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: at what a star quarterback's activity is like. And I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: think in that locker room and in that organization, you
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: hadn't had to have one of those. Also, right now,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: this city is learning how to deal with a star,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: deal with a quarterback who is everybody's and not just yours. Right.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Like Brian Urlacher was a star of that team. And
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: when you put another dude who is supposed to be
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the star, a bigger star than you in that locker room,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: who also has the attitude of like, I really don't matter.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: You know, we'll get through this because he's been solely
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: relying on his talent. Then there's that friction there with
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: this situation. Caleb Williams, he has a certain amount of deference,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: but it's understanding that if I make them believe that
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: they're more important than me, I know I'm going to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: get my shit on because I know how cold I am.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: He was asked about the throw at the back of
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: the end zone where it could have been intercepted twice.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: And DJ Moore goes up and gets it. And a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: lot of people around these parts are surprised. making the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: connections to Joe Montana, Dwight Clarks to catch him. Like, hey,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: slow down. This is being ridiculous. But it looks similar
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: because two people should have intercepted it. He got asked
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: about it being a risky throw, and he goes, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: can make that throw. You haven't had a person who
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: talked like that and can actually do that in this
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: city in forever. So that's why I think not only
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: is he that dude, I think before long, and it
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: might be by the end of this year, it might
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: be middle of next year, I think before long, he's
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: going to be the undoubtedly best quarterback ever. in this division.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Because Jordan Love, you know, there's a lot of double
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: agent to his game.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you, boy.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of double agent to his game.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Being undoubtedly better than Jordan Love is going to be
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: asking for a lot.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: A lot. I think he will be. Look at Jordan
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Look at Jordan when they get cold. Like,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: there's a different vibe. There's a different to me. I'm
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: looking forward to... This is the first time they've played
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: each other. The Packers played the Bears twice in three
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: weeks in like... 30 some odd years, something crazy like that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't happen like this. And for it to
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: have so much on the line, man, I think Caleb
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Williams is a dude who, you know, who I've seen
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: it at multiple stops. And this is just the next one.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: You know, seeing Jordan, I didn't watch Utah State games.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And what I've watched of Jordan Love as a pro
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: has been excellent. But when that light go out, There's
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a different demeanor back there with him. After tough plays,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: after tough drives, after tough halves, Jordan Love is a
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: guy who I will put behind Caleb Williams when it
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: comes to persevering. I will. That is interesting. I will.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: We're going to see.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: You see what Caleb had to deal with last year
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: and came out okay?
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Shit.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Come on. I think you make fair points. I am
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: high on Jordan Love.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Me too. That's how I am Caleb though.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Also, shout out to Big Brain Ben. Big Brain Ben
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: is getting it done. I feel like they're getting a
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: lot of coaches.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Wins with this team, right?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: The point differential does not indicate that this team is
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: necessarily that great, but they're getting it done. And when
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Caleb wasn't that great, they were still finding ways to
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: get it done.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: That's heavy on the coach. Big Ben not only has
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: been doing a good job, but Talent evaluation, man. Like
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Airbnb got DeAndre Swift running a lot different than he
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: has the last two years. Al Harris turned Nashawn Wright
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: into a Pro Bowl player after being there a couple
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: of different stops with him on the practice squad and
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: him saying, yo, I got a dude. You give him
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: a chance. You know, the Bears have been without. Two
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: of their top three or four defenders for most of
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the season. Kyle Gordon has played, what, one or two games?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson is back and is one of the best
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: corners in the game. But this year, he don't look
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: like that because his muscle ripped off his adductor and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: he out here playing football. Like the things that Al
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Harris and Eric Bien-Aimé and Antoine Randall-El, like Ben Johnson
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: learned some things from Dan Campbell, which is, hey, man,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you open up this coaching pool. And I mean, really
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: open it up and give it to cats who not
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: only deserve it, but motivate people in a way that
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: certain cats can't. Yeah, man, Al Harris created, I mean,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Neshaun Wright is doing a great job on his own
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: and should get personally rewarded, but he is about to
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: get financially rewarded because Al Harris said, this guy should
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: be on the field if we get a chance. This
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: dude's got the most turnovers forced in all of the NFL.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And they're doing this without a pass rush too. There's
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: so many cracks and flaws in this team that the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: fact that the quarterback is playing the way he is,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: the fact that the coach is coaching the way he is,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: It is something to see. I thought this was maybe
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: a seven or eight win team this year. This team
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: might end up 12 and five, man. In an NFL
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: where you see so many teams not take advantage of things,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: where it's like, man, Jacksonville is out here running roughshod
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: on people because they're taking advantage of the football that
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Kansas City has played over the last few years. The
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: fact that Baltimore is down, Cincinnati's a mess. There's certain
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: teams that just jump up and take advantage and you
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: gotta you gotta be impressed with the coaching staff and
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that's what ben johnson and this staff has done with
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: this bears team.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I think the b enemy point is worth noting it
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: ain't really looked the same over there in kansas city
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: since he left right maybe he's not a head coach
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: but he was somebody over there you know what i
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: mean like i can't call.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: It out he was you know what i think it
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: is um when you have a certain amount of success
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: like i asked i asked this of uh I was
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: talking to Scott Hanson from the NFL Red Zone. He's
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: doing a feature piece on him. And I asked him, like,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: are you a great show guy? And immediately he goes
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: to me, no, no, no. And it was like a
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: kindred spirit because I hate the people who say great
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: show after every show. It's like, no, we got to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: be more aware of our modifiers, our descriptors out here. Like,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: you know when it feel great. You know when you're
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: grinding through something. I feel like the Kansas City Chiefs
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: have been grinding through something for the last couple of years, right? And,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: you know, it feels great, but you ain't got nobody
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: to be like, hey, this shit ain't great enough. I
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: don't know if Matt Nagy's that guy, right? Andy Reid,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: he's been coaching for so long that you can ask
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: if you put a bunch of people in a room
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and ask who's doing their job the best, how many
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: hands gonna go up before you think Andy Reid can
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: go up this last couple of years? So Airbnb and
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: some of these other guys who ain't scared to make
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: it a little uncomfortable, you need those cats, especially when
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: it comes to, you know, bumps in the road. Like,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: you don't need them when everybody flying high and you
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: getting ready to pop champagne. But when shit ain't right
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: and nobody is acting like it ain't right, like Chris
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Jones had to be explained to that they was out
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: of playoff contention in the postgame. Like he said, we
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: still got a fighting chance. And the reporter's like, hey, no, no, no, no.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: My man.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: This was it. This was it, player.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, yeah, certain dudes, professional discomfort is necessary. Everybody
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: need a truth-to-source rec. Shout out to Carl Everett back
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: in the day in that white-size clubhouse who made everything
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable at all times, right? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Hold on, though. Hold on, though. Did he call himself
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: the truth-to-source recs, Carl Everett? Because, you know, he don't
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: think dinosaurs existed.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't. A local cat, Joe Cowley, who was
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: covering the team at the time, called him that because
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I think he was making the play on the fact
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: that Carl wasn't with that nonsense.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Now, staying in your division, something that I think is
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: getting a little play but not quite enough play is
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: it's been a lot coming out of Minnesota about J.J.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: McCarthy and The people who feel like they did something
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: wrong because they didn't keep Sam Darnold, I think that
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: that's a stupid argument.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: They drafted McCarthy.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: That was their guy, and Darnold came apart at the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: end of last season. He will probably come apart at
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: the end of some other season. If they bet on
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the wrong horse, that's fine, but that decision was made
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: when they drafted J.J.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: McCarthy, period, right?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Um, he has not been that good this year, but
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: we've heard stuff about like, he's got his own quarterback
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: coach who teaches him stuff completely different than the NFL
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: team seems to be teaching him. He has been good
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: in fourth quarters at points, but I mean, he's not
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: looked good very much when I've watched him, but they
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: won this game on Sunday night against the Cowboys and
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: he did a gritty into the end zone and.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: His head coach was great.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Furious right his head coach was furious with him a
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: couple weeks ago or maybe the week before where they
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: huddled when it was time to kneel it out because
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: he almost messed that up then they get in the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: post game and o'connell is talking about he's talking about
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like the fact that the dude did the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: gritty into the end zone and by the way for
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: everybody needs to understand he could have done the centipede
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: into the end zone nobody was anywhere near him he
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: could have done whatever he wanted and the coach is
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: still furious about this and then said something that's jumped
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: out to me where he says something about yeah you
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: know he can move he always talks about that 40
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: yard dash that he didn't have to run and i'm
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: like oh my god they're taking notes on everything that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: they don't like that you've done and said and they
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: springing this shit up in front of other people.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: They can't stand him.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah they don't rock with them in a way that's
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: so weird right like When you see this, I guess
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: it's not weird, but when you see this, you start
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: to think who pulled the trigger on decisions when it
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: comes to drafting and evaluation. This is what happens when
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: area scouts stand on tables and go, hey, we shouldn't
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: do this, or we should do this. And you're talking
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: to that person every chance you possibly can get. Or
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: when somebody's got the owner's ear, when somebody's got the
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: GM's ear, it doesn't feel like KOC feels like this
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: is the route that they should continue to go. And
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I'm interested because I've actually gone back and tried to
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: read and listen to, because I'm on this too, what
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Sean McVay was saying about Jared Goff at the end
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: of the run where you knew this was going to
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: be the case or, you know, what things have said
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: about Jimmy Garoppolo. Like there's, there are people who look
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: at quarterbacks and go, if this works, then somebody is
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: going to be a genius. But then you look at
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: guys and go, this, this shouldn't be attempted, right? Like,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: But drafting J.J. McCarthy in the first round, like when
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I saw it, I thought the mock drafts were saying,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, this is where somebody is going
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: to obviously be wrong. And then it was moving up
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: and up. And then you start to get to that
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: top 11, top 12 spot. I'm like, hey, man, are
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: we forgetting what these are supposed to feel and look like? Yeah.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Just because you're so starved for it. Right.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: But but but they were in a is that system stuff.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Right. Like he if you're if the platonic ideal for
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: your system is Kirk Cousins.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Guys, guys, think about this.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: But it's the same as the Falcons trading up to
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: take Pennix. Go look at the quarterbacks that came in
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the league this.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Year, right? It ain't here, right?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Look at next year. Don't see them, right? Like Arch
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Manning is not going to be in that draft. Our guy,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Nate Tyson, people have been on his neck about this.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: He said, if you watch the film, Arch Manning is
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the number one guy to come out in this draft.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I have not watched that much of late arch in
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the course of this season, but I still feel confident saying,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: even if he is, if even if he's been good,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: if he's number one, this, this class ain't really hitting
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: on nothing. So like how long look at the Steelers,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the Steelers have been in that situation where it's been like, Hey,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: ain't been no dude for us to take. So we
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: haven't really taken the guy. And now we've seen what
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: the results have been for them not having the quarterback.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: So what do you do?
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And I think the Vikings just looked and were like,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: all right, we think we've got a guy who could
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: run the system. The problem is they got him and
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: they don't like him. It's not even about how good
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: he is. They don't like him.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: So now we get to that redemptive story arc where,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: you know, you always see those NBA teams who go, hey,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: somebody's got to score points on this team until we
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: get ourselves a star, right?
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Sam Darnold. Are we going to start looking
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: at quarterbacks like, hey, like how pitching coaches looked at relievers, right?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Where it's like, hey, after that Tommy John, hey, I'm
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: going to call you in about a year and a
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: half and I know your elbow is going to be
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: where it's supposed to be and maybe even better. Like,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: do we look at Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold and
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: all these guys? Does it speak to not only the
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: way quarterbacks are developed or lack thereof, but also how
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: we should be timing out you know, these coaching hires too.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Like how many coaches get hired where they have to
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: go through one year with a quarterback they just don't
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: rock with, right? And then to do it again with
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: a rookie, I don't know where.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know where this market is going to settle at.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Who are the quarterbacks that you believe in in a
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: way that you believed in Aaron Rodgers? Like Josh Allen,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, but these are now the senior dudes, right?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott are the senior cats. How many dudes in
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: year six? We're still questioning Trevor Lawrence. I was told
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: he was the can't miss, this is what a quarterback
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: should look like.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: It, it, it appears to be beginning by the way,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: if last week was at a granted, they were playing
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: against air, right. They were playing against the jets, but
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: like we are, but no, you're right.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: So let's think about this.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Right. So do you have to hold on to coaches longer?
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, I'm asking you this, let's make 2019 the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: cutoff as in you entered the league in 2019.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the list of teams.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Now, and it was going to go through quarterbacks and
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I would do my best on remembering who's who.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: But Tua is 2020 draft. We don't feel good about him, right?
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Drake May, as of this moment, we do, right? Justin
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Fields got splinters in his keister. They put him on
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the oak. Jackson Dart, he keeps getting his egg scrambled,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: number one. But number two, I'm not as sold as
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: other people anyway. I give him an incomplete.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Right. I think that's going to be like a Jeff
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Garcia kind of career arc where it's like there's going
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: to be five years where it looks crazy. But, you know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: there's going to be too much rough and tumble football
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: going on for you to sustain.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Jalen hurts. We don't know what to do. We still don't.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: We just I think we need to talk about it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Right. We all everybody knows what it is or they don't.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: And that's the point. Jaden Daniels, we're going to have
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: to see if he can stay healthy.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: We mentioned this before. We had this conversation coming into
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: this year, and Commanders fans still on my ass about it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, man. He's lighting the ass. He swallowed
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: in Ryan Tannehill, and Ryan Tannehill was getting broken up
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: in the NFL.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Joe Burrow sounds like he doesn't want to do
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: this anymore.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: For them.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: He sounds....
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: We all we all know i remember when we said
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: that when he got drafted and people were getting mad
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: at us and we're like bruh y'all must be young
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you might not want to play there right and he
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: he he looked so bad oh he looked bad in
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: the game and sad in the presser and that is
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: a terrible sign um.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: All that swag On a losing-ass team in Cincinnati. All
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Now, your division got all the post-2019s. You got Caleb Williams,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: you got Jordan Love, and you got J.J.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: McCarthy. I think we've run through all of those guys. C.J. Stroud,
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I still feel good about.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's going to be a long span
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: of time where he is top-second-tier dude.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Yes. A guy who could win an MVP. like in
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: the way Matt Ryan.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Won an MVP.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, Matthew Stafford, two-time pro bowler Matthew Stafford
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: is probably going to win an MVP this year and
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: get to his third pro bowl. People like, like I
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: hate on Stafford when I compare him to Carson Palmer,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Comparing three-time
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: pro bowler Carson Palmer to two-time pro bowler Matthew Stafford
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: does not feel that all the talent in the world
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: played for teams that you thought weren't that good for
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a stretch.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: So forth and so on.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm belaboring the point.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is a 2019, and he's still Daniel Jones.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Eddie Torres, Achilles. Carson Palmer. Not Carson Palmer. Jacksonville. Trevor Lawrence.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: It's getting there. Cam Ward.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, bless his heart, man. I don't even know
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: what to say. Michael Pinnock's even before another injury, I
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: was not sold. Bryce Young, I am not sold. Tyler Shuck,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I am not sold. Bo Nix looked great on Sunday.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I am not sold.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Me neither. I can't, I can't. Yeah, yeah. The Bo
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Nix thing is like, Bo Nix is going to mess
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: around and win the Super Bowl. I'm going to be like,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: you know what? Do it again. Like Eli Manning, right?
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Where it's like, you know what? Hey, do it again.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: In fact, I need a third one. I need a
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: third one from him. But Justin Herbert, still not sold.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: See, that's the guy that I am higher on than
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: most people that I hear. I hear Nick Wright talk
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: about Justin Herbert and it makes me, it's hilarious because
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: you think that he has it out for him and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: he's got some salient points. But I just see Justin
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Herbert and I'm like, that should be, that has no.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Should be, should be, should be.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Also part of it with Justin Herbert is, you know,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: our boy Parko. is a big Justin Herbert guy. And therefore,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Nick is a little obligated.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Division, you know, all that.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, they're done with that at the Cardinals. I'll
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: be very curious to see where he turns up. If
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I'm the Steelers, I take him. If I am the Giants,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: anybody that doesn't have a quarterback, you could do a
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: lot worse than Kyle.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: How long are the Steelers going to play that game
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: of we're just going to get a veteran quarterback?
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Where else are they going to get a quarterback from?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: That's just what we're talking about. Are they going to
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: get Diego or Francisco Mendoza?
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: But don't you have to restart a franchise every once
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: in a while? They tried it with Kitty Pickett.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, they did.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Small hands.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: They've already tried the I guess we'll go get one
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: now program. I think getting Kyler Murray is much different
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: than getting Aaron Rodgers or getting Russell Wilson or getting
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Justin Fields.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you get Kyler Murray, prepare for Mike
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Tomlin to retire.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the problem is, you know, nobody likes him
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. Brock Purdy.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: And Mac Jones.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Listen, Kyle Shanahan at some point, and we're going to
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: be like, hey, this... His daddy made running backs. This
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: man has made quarterbacks in a way that I still
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: don't believe. The 49ers being 10-4 is one of those
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: things where I'm like, how does this happen? Why is
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: this happening? And is the NFL product this year better
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: than the NBA? Because I can't see it.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Here's my problem with Kyle Shanahan, man. I don't want
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: no coach so wedded to his system that he think.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Here's how he like quarterbacks.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this on the pod before,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: but if not, I'm going to have to edit this.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: But those of you who know the routine will know
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And you know the routine too,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you being a Chicago guy. He like him like Robin
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Harris like him.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Because he could just be like, Robin Harris say he
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: like an ugly woman because he just come in the
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: house and be.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Like, hey, I'm going to the moon.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I'll be back in a couple of days. Say pretty
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: woman got too many questions. She just be like, oh yeah,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to the moon. I'll be back in a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: couple of days. She just be like, well, you be careful.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: That's Kyle Shanahan.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Nah, he like, nah, you don't, he don't necessarily like
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: him ugly, but he like him like, like a slice
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: of white bread.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Like that's just, that's, that's, that's how he like him.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: You don't want no hot sauce on it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Just, just give him that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Slice of white bread if you just do exactly what
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: he say then eventually he get tired of white bread
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and then he go put a little spice on it
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: then he's like man y'all go get me another piece
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: of that white bread and then you get right back
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: to eating that white bread that wonder bread that's what
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: he about um and if you.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Leave you and if you leave you you're good by
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Right, but then he go pay $ 50 million for the
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Wonder Bread.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: And Ryan is telling me that, yes, in fact, I
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: have done this before. But still, it works in line
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: with this discussion.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: But you're right.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: The star's younger than Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Just
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: keep it in mind, Joe Burrow is older than Lamar Jackson.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: So we think we may have it with Jaden Daniels,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: but he's a little light in the keister. We think
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: we may have it with Drake May. We think we
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: may have it with Caleb Williams, right? But it's a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: lot of time for it to go off the rails
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: with those cats.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: And how easily or quickly did it happen with the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: other folks that we've seen? Like, we knew Patrick Mahomes
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: as Patrick Mahomes, you know, at the end of that
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: first year where it was like, oh, okay, this is
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: what you were sitting behind. All right, this is what
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: you own. This is a gold mine, right? Like, how
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: many guys did it take two or three years for
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: us to– four years for us to be like, eh,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: that second contract for it to be like, eh, I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: don't know. Well, Josh Allen– The Stefan Diggs year was what?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: The third year?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Year three. Year three.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: But that's a weird year because it was the pandemic
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: year or whatever it was. But those first two years,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: this was not certain. It was not certain at that point.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, he hit it pretty quick. Like I think
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: we all agree on that one.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, but then you have guys like Tua and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert where it looked okay early.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: And then it wasn't long before we were like, I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I was never sold on the Tua thing, whether it
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: be the stature, whether it be the arm strength or
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: the overall demeanor. I always thought that, one, he was
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit too deferential. Two, if you can't command
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: the way that you got to command in those professional settings,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: What's going to happen when the seas get a little choppy?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I was never really... head-on, this Tua thing is going
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: to be one of those top five, top six quarterbacks
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: for the long haul. But like you said, right now
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: in college, I was told that Cade Klubnick and all
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: these other cats were going to be great at the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: top of the season. And I watch even the Lenore
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Sellers kid. There's a whole bunch of tape where it's like, man,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: this man is outstanding. This man is amazing. I guess
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: I've been watching college football in a way in the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: 80s and the 90s where if you was that dude,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: it was going to jump off the screen and you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: were going to lift teams that wasn't shit for, you know,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: at least a couple of years. There were so many
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in college football this year where I'm like, man,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: what are NFL teams going to do? You're going to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: have to go through the retreads. You're going to have
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: to find, you know, JJ McCarthy. I believe in you
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  Speaker 2: the second time around, you know, you're going to have
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: to go, you know, kick the tires on Anthony. Like
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  Speaker 2: this is why the Anthony Richardson thing is so wild
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  Speaker 2: because with all the things that have happened in you know,
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  Speaker 2: the orbital bone fracture and taking yourself out the game. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I promise you, two years from now, whenever that deal
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  Speaker 2: is up, a year from now, somebody's going to be like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: would you like to play football with that body you got?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you know who's about to ask him if he'd
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  Speaker 1: like to play football with that body he got next year?
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  Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts. That's who.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: You think Phillip Rivers' old ass coming back next year?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's coming back, but I can't– All I'm.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Saying is this.
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  Speaker 1: They say Anthony Richardson is ready to practice again. And
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  Speaker 1: you know they don't want that. They don't want to
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  Speaker 1: play him.
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  Speaker 2: When a commodity has been beaten down like that, can
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: you build it back up in the same building?
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  Speaker 3: They are going to have no other choice.
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  Speaker 1: Like, this is, I mean, look, I saw Kirk Cousins
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  Speaker 1: be terrible and get seeded and then come back and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: turn into a decent player within the same spot. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the thing that always got me about the Kyle Shanahan
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  Speaker 1: loves Kirk Cousins thing is, buddy, you benched him too.
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  Speaker 3: He was terrible when he played for you.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Right?
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  Speaker 3: And then it came back around.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, they're not going to have any other
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: choice for the Colts next year. Like, I don't think
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones plays next year. And if he does, he
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: needs to be able to move and he's got a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: devastating mobility injury.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's just cook.
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  Speaker 2: This is why it is great to say this, and
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  Speaker 2: you need to be able to capitalize on these moments
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: because you don't know when they're going to happen again.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: It is great to be in the position as a
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears fan where the quarterback position is as stable
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: as it is right now. I don't know when I'm
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: going to be able to say that again, brother.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: You're so nervous. You think you might not be able
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: to say it in that week.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Hey, listen. The wow freestyle, Kendrick Lamar. Oh, you say
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  Speaker 2: you got a bad one. I can tell you never
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: had one. This entire city. This entire city has not
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: walked around with a bad one on their arm in forever.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: You feel me? Forever. You're talking about Robin Harris. We've
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: been working in the factory where, you know, like, hey, man,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: one eye is enough. You know what I mean? Like,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: come on to the crib. $ 3 Hennessy night. You feel me? Like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: we've been loading up on good eating, but, you know,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: there ain't no fine dining when it comes to the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: quarterback position. A lot of stews. But not a lot
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: of lobster.
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  Speaker 3: That is an amazing line.
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  Speaker 2: I have to remember that. You know the vibes, man.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: It's been tough. So when you see Bears fans, like
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: there's a Bears den, the family den on the south
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: side of Chicago. There's an entire group and a contingent
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: of Black Bears fans that are rejoicing on a Sunday
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: in a way that We've been trying to for so long, right?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: So long. This ain't the Sox. This ain't the Bulls.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: This ain't the, you know, worry about the Blackhawks and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: the Cubs because, you know, we don't matriculate to those
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: areas as much as we can and should. But, man,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: under this umbrella with this gang, shit. We've been looking
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: at a lot of mediocre for a long time. So
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: for it to feel this way, for us to be
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: on a precipice of, like, people talking about a quarterback
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: in that manner, man, it feels good not to have
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: to watch the drafts or watch college football in a
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: way where you're scouting quarterbacks every goddamn week.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Good for you, fellas. Good for y'all.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Good for you.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: Good for you.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: That is Jason Goff. Check him out in Chicago. Just
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: be happy.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Walk around happy, baby.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: There we go. I appreciate you, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Always, man. Thank you so much.
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