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Sports' Biggest Party · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Volume
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I'm Chad Millman of the Action Network. Simon
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  Speaker 1: is still enjoying time with his family in Jollie, Old England,
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  Speaker 1: but we miss him so much. We have to talk
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  Speaker 1: about one of the biggest events that comes out of
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  Speaker 1: England and has been imported to New York. It has
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  Speaker 1: taking place Friday and Saturday. Many people know it as
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  Speaker 1: sports biggest party. What is that party, you ask, It's
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  Speaker 1: the best three sixty five US darts masters at the
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  Speaker 1: theater in Madison Square Garden. The world's eight greatest darts
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  Speaker 1: players squaring off against eight of North America's best. It's
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  Speaker 1: an incredible party. It's incredible popular betting event internationally and
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  Speaker 1: becoming more popular here in the US. Joining us to
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  Speaker 1: discuss all things professional darts all the way from his
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  Speaker 1: kitchen in Denmark, our better collective colleague and darts betting
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  Speaker 1: expert Ben Jamine Leander Brother.
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  Speaker 2: Hi Jet, Thank you so much for having me listen.
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  Speaker 1: Darts has a really sort of special place in the
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  Speaker 1: lore of Action Network because when we first launched, darts
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  Speaker 1: started to be televised here in the United States on
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  Speaker 1: diz own I think, and a lot of people went
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  Speaker 1: and it was a huge betting event that got us
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  Speaker 1: all catalyzed, and we're having just an incredible time together.
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  Speaker 1: So we've been following like the joy of betting on
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  Speaker 1: darts and the incredible enthusiasm and the spirit comes from
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  Speaker 1: the events and the attitude and the charisma of the
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  Speaker 1: the players. Like for those who were totally unfamiliar, why
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  Speaker 1: is it called sports biggest party?
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  Speaker 2: I would say for people not knowing that darts have
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  Speaker 2: evolved from the traditional pop sport to the greatest party
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  Speaker 2: in the world, I would say that we have festival
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  Speaker 2: meets carnival meets sports match. Very rare that you can
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  Speaker 2: combine all three things. I mean, we have all been
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  Speaker 2: to a soccer match, an American football match, an icecckeer match,
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  Speaker 2: whatever match where you have the sport in the center
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  Speaker 2: of everything. With darts you have the atmosphere as the
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  Speaker 2: center of everything. And I remember actually watching the first
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  Speaker 2: edition of the US Darts Masters that was played at
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  Speaker 2: the Tropic can Casino in Las Vegas. People should go
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  Speaker 2: watch it. It's on YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: Hello again from Professional Dotsampionship, where once again we've had
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  Speaker 3: an evening of high drama as this tournament proceeds towards
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  Speaker 3: its climax one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: And then compared to last year's edition, it is two
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  Speaker 2: different worlds.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, the championship final, Michael fuckerwin, my daughter one man
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  Speaker 3: missus does the other man get I've never seen.
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  Speaker 2: The like Come on spiper, Yes, Stubble twelve the most amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Saying I can't steer my step, my crowd going perssuch,
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  Speaker 3: but that's simply the best looking of dance.
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  Speaker 2: So darts is being the the biggest party of sports
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  Speaker 2: due to the huge atmosphere.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think happened? What changed? By twenty eighteen
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  Speaker 1: when we were starting to cover it at action, people
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  Speaker 1: were already going nuts. Like the attitude, the atmosphere. It
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  Speaker 1: was really starting to blow up. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: facilitated the change in sort of culture and enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 2: Professional Darts Cooperation is called the PDC, like the FIFA
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  Speaker 2: of soccer or the NHL of hockey, has played a
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  Speaker 2: huge role in professionalizing the sports, along with broadcasters like
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  Speaker 2: Sky Sports and ITV making a very very good broadcasting
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  Speaker 2: product of the sports. Because it is universal that when
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  Speaker 2: you watch the dart scheme, you want the best angles.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody can watch the dogboards from places of
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  Speaker 2: the crowd, but with the huge monitors and on TV
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  Speaker 2: many many different camera angles showing exactly where the players
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  Speaker 2: are throwing the darts. That has been a huge key
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  Speaker 2: in the darts rise during the last yeah, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: the last seven or eight years. The PDC has of
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  Speaker 2: course also provided a huge price fund, which is also
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  Speaker 2: this year historical in New York. We have one hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand pounds in the price pool against sixty even last year.
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  Speaker 2: So bigger prize pool and the PDC making a very
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  Speaker 2: very nice product. Tickets are still what I would say,
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  Speaker 2: not cheap, but at least affordable, where we see in
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  Speaker 2: other sports, both your sports in the US and also
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  Speaker 2: the European sports that that ticket prices are simply exploding
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  Speaker 2: through the roof. So in general, more people are getting
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  Speaker 2: their eyes open for darts being very very accessible. You
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  Speaker 2: need to be a huge fan. You need to know
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  Speaker 2: who Michael fan Girlin or Matt Campbell or whoever is.
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  Speaker 2: So darts is extremely accessible for both young and old.
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  Speaker 1: So explaining you just mentioned a couple of guys, who
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  Speaker 1: are the people that the players that people need to
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  Speaker 1: know as they think about betting for the weekend, and
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  Speaker 1: we're quite frankly in the US there's not a ton
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  Speaker 1: of stuff to bet on as we're heading into, you know,
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  Speaker 1: out of the basketball season. Who are the people? Why
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  Speaker 1: are they so charismatic? What makes them so popular?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's impossible not to mention teenage sensation and
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  Speaker 2: upcoming defending world champion and upcoming many many, many, many
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  Speaker 2: many times world champion. He is the picture on the
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  Speaker 2: face of darts right now, sixteen years old when he
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  Speaker 2: participated at his first World dous Championship and World champion
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  Speaker 2: at the age of seventeen, one of.
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  Speaker 3: The greatest sets of darts potentially we have ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: Of the World Championship. He's gone through the gills and
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  Speaker 3: this is for the match, say for the loop, a
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  Speaker 3: new play climb. You cannot contain this Land's talent and
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  Speaker 3: fatty and brute strength as adults line.
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  Speaker 2: He's participating of course in New York. Did it as
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  Speaker 2: well last year, but lost to Growing Price also a
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  Speaker 2: big name to to keep an eye on, due to
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  Speaker 2: both due to his skills on the stage, but also
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  Speaker 2: because Price is the face of what darts can also be.
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  Speaker 2: A former rugby professional in his home country Wales, decided
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  Speaker 2: to give dots ago ten years ago and got crowned
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  Speaker 2: world champion, so completely shifted sports, like another Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 2: from from basketball to baseball, maybe even more successful. We
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  Speaker 2: have tons of faces. Luke Humphrey, the world number one,
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  Speaker 2: also a very very good guy, a guy everyone likes
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  Speaker 2: on the tour where Little and Price are dividing opinions,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a little more then I would say for the Americans,
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  Speaker 2: we have a very special case with Jules van Dungen,
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  Speaker 2: born in the Netherlands but is representing the US. He
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  Speaker 2: is at the moment suffering from dar titis. Please don't laugh.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real thing where you are struggling with the
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  Speaker 2: dart in your hand to release it at a proper time.
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  Speaker 2: And Jules has suffered from this for over a year now.
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  Speaker 2: Was a really really is still a really really good player,
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  Speaker 2: but has suffered so much from this dark titis thing
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  Speaker 2: that he actually spent hours and hours and weeks and
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  Speaker 2: months changing his throat from right to left handed. Imagine
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  Speaker 2: doing that in any sports. Imagine Tom Brady suddenly saying
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  Speaker 2: I can release the ball when throwing for my wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver so now I'll use my left hand. Jules van
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  Speaker 2: Dagen actually did that. He is in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: a process and he's still playing at a much lower
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  Speaker 2: level than before, but he will participate in New York.
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  Speaker 2: And I think everyone in the Doors universe is cheering
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  Speaker 2: for Jewels to finally have a good experience on the
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  Speaker 2: stage because he has really suffered for the last year
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  Speaker 2: or even one and a half. So he is definitely
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  Speaker 2: the guy that everyone in the American art world will
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  Speaker 2: cheer four of this this week.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, Jewles got the yips, like he just couldn't
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  Speaker 1: do it anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's you wouldn't see it in any other sports.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, looking at any NBA player not being able
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  Speaker 2: to release the ball or any soccer player, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: see MESSI say, I can shoot, I can't shoot. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's suffering from from the yeah the dartisis, which is
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  Speaker 2: of course a physical condition, but also this mental condition
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  Speaker 2: where you're just you can't make it right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's heartbreaking, dude. I feel terrible for this guy.
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  Speaker 1: How did it even, like, how did it start to
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  Speaker 1: become known? And then like what was his process for
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  Speaker 1: trying to change it, like I've tried to throw darts
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  Speaker 1: left handed. You know, darts becomes one of those things
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  Speaker 1: where everyone feels like they know how to do it
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  Speaker 1: because it's accessible at every bar and pub throughout the world.
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  Speaker 1: It's really hard to be that coordinated to be able
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  Speaker 1: to change hands.
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  Speaker 2: It is an exceptional case. I mean he he suffered
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  Speaker 2: from from some kind of wrist condition in the start
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  Speaker 2: and then he it somehow got worse. So it is
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  Speaker 2: the mixed between an injury where you keep throwing in
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  Speaker 2: the wrong way and suddenly you have brist and your
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  Speaker 2: underarm becomes a great issue, combined with your head saying
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  Speaker 2: I can't throw like this. I need to kind of
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  Speaker 2: do something that I'm not used to. So that's simply
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  Speaker 2: suffering from from dartisis and many darts players have been
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  Speaker 2: through it. Even Nathan Aspinall, who will also participate this
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  Speaker 2: or was supposed to participate this year but is being
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  Speaker 2: replaced by Australian Damon Hatz, has suffered from it on
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  Speaker 2: stage during this year's Premier League, but has come back
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  Speaker 2: from it. Actually that there were many many good matches,
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  Speaker 2: but in Jule's case, it's it's been going on for
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  Speaker 2: over a year now and he is luckily recovering from it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a very long process.
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  Speaker 1: You know this. Uh, this year's competition is European versus
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  Speaker 1: North America. Are Europeans known as being better players historically
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  Speaker 1: than the Americans?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. Darts has been evolving very slowly on every
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  Speaker 2: other continent than Europe. We've seen still South America. I
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  Speaker 2: mean in almost every other sport like soccer, basketball, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: maybe not hockey, but but almost every other sport you
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  Speaker 2: would have South America, Africa, Asia even having at least
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  Speaker 2: one dominant player. It's been a very very slow involvement
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  Speaker 2: in these in these continents because the professional darts corporation
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  Speaker 2: have not succeeded bringing the game to other continents than Europe,
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  Speaker 2: where everything has been focused on European tour, the World
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  Speaker 2: As Championships being played in London every year, and now
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  Speaker 2: discussions have come to do we need to put the
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  Speaker 2: World Championships another place then London? Could it be played
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  Speaker 2: outside Europe? Even because the sport is on the rise
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  Speaker 2: and so many in so many different continents. Asia has
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  Speaker 2: had a huge success of players coming in. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: it at the World Cup of Darts that was held
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, where you play in teams
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  Speaker 2: as in pairs of two. Jules van Dunnan competed for
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  Speaker 2: the USA along with Daniel Loubi who will also be
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  Speaker 2: playing this week in Canada, had Jim Long and Matt
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  Speaker 2: Campbell who will also participate in New York this week.
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  Speaker 2: But traditionally the Americans have had a tough time when
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  Speaker 2: playing the US Darts Masters. In twenty twenty three, Canadian
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Smith actually went all the way to the final.
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  Speaker 2: He beat Lucumphries, the current number one. He had other
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  Speaker 2: very good matches against Peter Wright with the mohawk, very
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  Speaker 2: very good player as well, and then he beat Michael
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  Speaker 2: Smith also but lost eventually in the final eight nil
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  Speaker 2: to Michael van Gowen, a legend of the sports. But
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  Speaker 2: he is the only player that have processed after round two.
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  Speaker 2: We have the eight American players joining in in the
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  Speaker 2: first round, and then you have the quarter finals, round two,
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  Speaker 2: the semifinals, round three, and then the final. And Jeff
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  Speaker 2: Smith is the only North American who has processed from
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  Speaker 2: round two.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so you sort of got into the format
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. This is a betting show. Darts came
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  Speaker 1: on the scene largely because I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people started betting on it. Like with a lot of sports,
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  Speaker 1: sort of the popularity trails behind the betting influence, and
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  Speaker 1: darts certainly falls into that category. So how do you
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  Speaker 1: bet on darts? What's like? What's a comparison that people
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  Speaker 1: who haven't done it before could hold on to so
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  Speaker 1: they can understand it litle bit better.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that tennis is a bad comparition, because
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  Speaker 2: in tennis you have two players who are shifting between serving.
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  Speaker 2: You're also serving in darts, where one player of course
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  Speaker 2: has to throw before the matches. The players gather in
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  Speaker 2: front of the board and then you throw closest to
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  Speaker 2: the bullseye, and the player closest to bullseye is starting
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  Speaker 2: the match, which is of course a big advantage. Since
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  Speaker 2: we are playing first to six legs. Both players starts
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  Speaker 2: on five and one points and will then play down
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  Speaker 2: eventually to zero points, and if the game is tied
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  Speaker 2: at five to five, you play the ultimate round of
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  Speaker 2: the match. Of course, then the player who won the
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  Speaker 2: ballsye before the match will throw in the deciding leg,
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  Speaker 2: which is a huge advantage, and just like an in tennis, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're serving in darts, one can say. I mean a
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  Speaker 2: tennis you have your serve where one player can be
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  Speaker 2: bad at the at playing or or hitting, but having
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  Speaker 2: a good serve it's a little bit different, difficult in darts,
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  Speaker 2: but you have the ability of scoring of course, pounding
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  Speaker 2: the triple twenty area where you get the most points.
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  Speaker 2: But in the darts you're only winning if you can
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  Speaker 2: finish on a double the outer circle of the board.
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  Speaker 2: And some players having a reallytort time. I've seen top
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  Speaker 2: professional players just a month ago having to use forty
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  Speaker 2: one darts to finish one round. Chris Toby and an
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  Speaker 2: opponent needed forty one darts to finish one route. You
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  Speaker 2: and me could do around in forty one throws, chat,
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  Speaker 2: I definitely wouldn't doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is like, sometimes I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you can get a double on the outer ring by accident.
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  Speaker 1: And these are the best dart throwers in the world
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  Speaker 1: who aren't able to end it. Is it because everything
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  Speaker 1: gets into their head, like what happens when it's time
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  Speaker 1: to close that they can't get to that final throw.
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  Speaker 2: It's in their head. And then I mentioned the twenty
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  Speaker 2: seventeen edition in trobik Kaanna, where the crowd was completely silent.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the case in these days. The crowd is
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  Speaker 2: getting loud and some crowds are even't getting hostile. In
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup of Darts two weeks ago we had
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  Speaker 2: Germany on home soil. They beat England with Luke Litter
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  Speaker 2: and Louke Comfrey's two of the three best players in
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  Speaker 2: the world. They beat them easily due to the crowd
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  Speaker 2: whistling and booing every time the Englishman was throwing. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we can discuss is that good sporting ethics
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  Speaker 2: or what it is. But I mean, even if the
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  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden crowd will not get hostile, it can
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  Speaker 2: still get into the heads of players when you can't
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  Speaker 2: just get that double done and then you miss and
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  Speaker 2: you miss more, and that's when it both starts and
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  Speaker 2: betting becomes tough. The European players are playing later this
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  Speaker 2: season then normally. Normally the US Dots Master has been
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  Speaker 2: in the first week of June, the latest of editions.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's in the end of June, so it is
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  Speaker 2: colliding with some players holidays. All of these players have family,
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  Speaker 2: so that might influence on European players going to America
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  Speaker 2: dealing with jedlag. We've seen it many times. There's always
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  Speaker 2: one or two of the European players who are really struggling,
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  Speaker 2: and you don't know until you see them on stage
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  Speaker 2: and imagine something is wrong here. His starts are flying low,
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  Speaker 2: his starts are flying high. He's not mentally strong in
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  Speaker 2: this game, and we won't know until we see the
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  Speaker 2: players on stage. But one of the cases I'm quite
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  Speaker 2: sure about is that we have Michael van Gerwin, the
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  Speaker 2: Dutch giant who has won many world championships. He's been
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  Speaker 2: going through a divorce, go splitting from his partner in
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  Speaker 2: many many years and having even one month, so his
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  Speaker 2: condition is very questionable. Has he trained, has he hasn't played?
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  Speaker 2: And how is he dealing going to the USA without,
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  Speaker 2: of course his family and with all these thoughts going
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  Speaker 2: through his head. So that is what you have to
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  Speaker 2: take into account when betting on the darts.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, we got divorce, we got dartitis, we got heckling,
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  Speaker 1: we got jet lag, we got rivalries, we got teenage
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  Speaker 1: up in comers, we got people who want to knock
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  Speaker 1: that kid down to side like darts has more drama
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  Speaker 1: than the Gilded Age. It is just a fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: You're not entertained.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned all these guys like darts isn't something, and
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned the prize pool one hundred thousand pounds? What
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  Speaker 1: do these guys do for a living? Like these aren't
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  Speaker 1: professional athletes? What do they do? How are they practicing?
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  Speaker 2: Money? And darts have gone so big that all of
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  Speaker 2: the players competing on this World Series Tour that the
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  Speaker 2: US Darts Masters is are completely professional, winning millions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars and also having sponsorships that will easily top a
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  Speaker 2: lot of professional players, not from the highest of clubs
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  Speaker 2: or athletes, but at least clothes. I mean, winning the
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  Speaker 2: World Championships is guaranteeing you five hundred thousand pounds. Equally,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, what's seven hundred thousand dollars? And I
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  Speaker 2: would say that probably top fifty and top or top
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  Speaker 2: sixty on the Professional Dots Corporation tour can make a
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  Speaker 2: living of darts. Of course, big difference from Luke Littler
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  Speaker 2: at the top earning many, many, many thousands a year
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  Speaker 2: and then number sixty four, who could maybe do with
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  Speaker 2: a small part time job. But the hard thing for
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  Speaker 2: darts players is that the top guys are guaranteed a
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  Speaker 2: place in the most tournaments, where the qualifiers are not
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  Speaker 2: getting any part of the prize pool on this they
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  Speaker 2: win a match, making it very very hard. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: in tennis, you would see even the loser of the
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  Speaker 2: first round in US Open receiving I guess rather big
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  Speaker 2: payment just for showing up, maybe even losing three times
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  Speaker 2: six zero. In darts, there's been criticism of recent tournament
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  Speaker 2: structure changes where it favors the biggest players, but we
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  Speaker 2: have fewer occasions where we see upcoming talents, sensational qualifiers
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  Speaker 2: winning four matches in one day and participating in their
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  Speaker 2: first Levis tournament. Ever, that's making life hard also for
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  Speaker 2: potential American players. Where we are having this tournament, we're
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  Speaker 2: having four North American players participating due to the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they have won a tour card. Just like when
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  Speaker 2: you are competing for tour carding golf, you have it
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  Speaker 2: on the darts tour as well, giving you the permission
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  Speaker 2: to attend these tournaments, but you have to win it
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  Speaker 2: and that is very very tough to do. So in
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  Speaker 2: this tournament, we have, like I said before, we have
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Daniel Louby, we have duels, we have Jim Long, we
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: have Mett Campbell who are playing professionally on the PDC tour,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and then we have four qualifiers land Gates that we bunts,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and then Adam Savada and Jason Brandon who will be
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: playing as part timers. So there is a huge gap
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: between the big guys making the big money and then
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: some of the quolar fame players we will see during
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  Speaker 2: Friday and Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: So we've run through the lineup, We've run through the format,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: We've run through the drama. Give us your best bets
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  Speaker 1: for the tournament.
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  Speaker 2: We have yet to see the draw, which will obviously
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: have great importance in terms of which players will be
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: placed in, what braggets, what opponents, and stuff like that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: But like I mentioned before, I would very much like
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: to bet against Michael van Gowen if he gets any
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: other opponents, then an inexperienced Jason Brandon, if he gets
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: drawn against a young guy like Adam Savada, who is
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: getting very very big amounts of praise in the dark community,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: can maybe be the next big thing in US arts.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I would definitely like to take Adam, maybe not to
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: win the match, but then to cover it by a
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: handicap the player first of first to three legs, and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: if I can get something like Adam with three or
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: two legs front, I think that will be be a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: great bet. And then of course Luke Litler, the teenage sensation.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: He has this hunger of winning tournaments that he haven't
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: won yet, and he got defeated in his debut last
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: year in New York by Going Price, so I think
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: he will be very, very motivated. Also thinking about this
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: huge disaster that it was that him and partner Luke
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Humphries was defeated in the first match at the World Cup.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So I think we'll see motivated Luke litter, motivated Luke Humphries,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and then Michael van Gowen with a big question mark
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: out of his form.
• 24:35
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• 24:41
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• 24:46
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