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31: Birmingham show preview, Tigz Rice and Connor Wells on growing a business, hands-on with new Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra camera hardware and software · The Photography & Video Show Podcast

• 0:10
  David McClelland: Hello and welcome to the Photography and Video Show Podcast, your monthly fix of developing camera news and insights from world-leading photographers and filmmakers.
• 0:18
  David McClelland: It's me, David McClelland, it's March 2026.
• 0:22
  David McClelland: And with the annual in-person show at the NEC, just a matter of days away, this month's podcast is a special photography and video show preview.
• 0:34
  David McClelland: Throughout today's show, we'll be hearing from the photography and filmmaking professionals showcasing their creativity and their craft on the myriad stages at the show.
• 0:46
  David McClelland: Aside from learning new techniques, the photography and video show is a great place to sharpen up on your business skills too.
• 0:52
  David McClelland: Tiggs Rice and Connor Wells are here to tell us more.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_08: I downloaded one of my favourite episodes, clipped it all up into short form things, sent it as a link, and was just like, hey, big fan, feel free to use these.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_08: I made them for you.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_08: He posted one of them, it went pretty viral and he said, Can you come in?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_08: I've got some work for you.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_08: So just those little extra little details going above and beyond.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_08: I noticed that people really, really appreciate that.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: If you've got the privilege of having these incredible conversations, someone else out there is gonna need or want to hear that as well.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: And if we have the ability to put that out there, why not make it available?
• 1:32
  David McClelland: Plus, the brains behind the photography and video show, Ruth and Hazel from Future are here with some breaking news announcements on what you can see, do and buy in Birmingham.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_04: We've got uh a couple of footballers from Birmingham City coming in to do some stuff on Monday afternoon.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_04: We had the the week junior science and nature scavenger hunt photo contest.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
• 2:00
  David McClelland: That's the long name, yes.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so they've run that competition again over the summer, and we have the gallery on site for that as well, showcasing the all the finalists.
• 2:10
  David McClelland: And as if you needed it by now, a final reminder that the in-person show takes place between Saturday the 14th and Tuesday, the 17th of March 2026, at the National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham, England.
• 2:21
  David McClelland: Tickets are still available.
• 2:22
  David McClelland: Head to photographyshow.com to find out more.
• 2:26
  David McClelland: First today, though, we've been asking our fantastic professionals who'll be speaking on the stages to share with us what they'll be sharing with you at this year's show.
• 2:35
  David McClelland: Let's hear from a few of them now.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_14: A catfight is about to start.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_14: My name's Kate.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_14: I work for Zigara, XYZ.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hi all, Bill Ward here.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm an actor and photographer.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Karis Jones and I'm an equine fine art photographer currently working in Iceland with the wonderful Icelandic horses.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_11: Hi, I'm Zoe Hilgermark and I work exclusively with photographers, supporting them with PR and marketing.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_06: I'm going to give a talk about something that is quite close to my heart.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_06: It's about that moment when you give somebody a budget or a price for some video work that you're creating, or indeed photographer what you're looking at creating, and they kind of look away and they look back up at you sheepishly and they say, How much?
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_06: It's a horrible moment because you can sit there and think, am I really worth the amount that I think that I'm worth?
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_06: Am I overcharging?
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_06: Am I undercharging?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_06: Have I set this conversation up in the right way?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_06: Am I even sort of worth the amount that I think that I am worth as a professional?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'll be talking about how to capture good equine images and also sharing insights into some of the more creative techniques I adopt, including multiple explosions and intentional camera movement.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_14: If you are someone who is forever feeling crushed by the weight of responsibility of how you are going to utilize the social media accounts, there's so many myths out there, there's so many opinions, there's so many thoughts of what you should do, could do, the best way of finding success.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_14: And if it all feels a little bit much, come and have an honest conversation with me, come to my session, we will talk about the experience I've had of working with creators for the past couple of years, what success has looked like to them.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_11: Trust plays a much bigger role in decision making than it used to, and that's where PR comes in.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_11: PR isn't just about chasing headlines or becoming famous, it's about credibility, it's about being seen and talked about beyond your own platforms, in places that your clients already trust.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to be giving a talk about liquid ICM.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: So intentional camera movement and water.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: We'll be looking a lot at seascapes, but also using intentional camera movement in towns and cities with fountains, streams, urban streams, that kind of thing, as well as rivers in the countryside, waterfalls, all of that kind of stuff.
• 4:54
  David McClelland: Back to the Birmingham show preview, and as well as being able to get hands-on with and even buy the latest cameras and kit, and being inspired by stories and live demonstrations from photographers and filmmakers from around the world, there is also a super rich program of skills and techniques and expertise from working professionals on running and growing your creative business.
• 5:18
  David McClelland: And right here on the pod, in a very sumptuous-looking studio, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, are two of those working professionals who will be sharing their business secrets in Birmingham at the show.
• 5:30
  David McClelland: Photographer, videographer, and podcast producer Connor Wells, and empowerment photographer Tiggs Rice.
• 5:35
  David McClelland: Welcome to the podcast, Tiggs and Connor.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, hello.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: Hi, thanks for having us.
• 5:40
  David McClelland: Great to see you both.
• 5:42
  David McClelland: Now, listeners who've been with us for a little while may remember Tiggs a couple of years ago.
• 5:47
  David McClelland: Now it must be Tiggs.
• 5:49
  David McClelland: But for our more recent listeners and viewers, Tiggs, how do you describe what it is that you do?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I uh show people the beauty that I see in them.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I have spent 16 years now in the world of boudoir, burlesque, empowerment, photography, helping people reconnect with themselves, fall in love with their bodies, and show up for the world how they want to be seen, whether that's lingerie, fancy dresses, the works.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's the best job ever.
• 6:17
  David McClelland: You you I've known you probably for about 15 or so years.
• 6:20
  David McClelland: And one thing I can absolutely say is that you love your work and you look after your clients so incredibly well, make them feel special from first contact all the way through to the last.
• 6:30
  David McClelland: So great to have you back on the on the show here.
• 6:33
  David McClelland: And Connor, great to meet you too.
• 6:35
  David McClelland: Tell us a bit more about what it is that you do.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so I'm a photographer, videographer, and podcast producer.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_08: Most of my work these days is in podcast production.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_08: It's sort of a bit of a happy accident.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_08: I keep getting a podcast come across my desk, which is which is nice and exciting.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_08: But in long and short of it, help people build their influence, impacts, and income with online photo and video.
• 6:56
  David McClelland: How do you describe this podcast wealth of work potentially that that is available out there that you as a professional are being able to make the most of?
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_08: It's definitely been quite a podcast boom.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_08: I'd say it's sort of most recently, especially like video podcasting, definitely kicked off when like Spotify did the big deal with Joe Rogan, huge$100 million deal exclusive to Spotify.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_08: And I think that's when people started to notice oh this podcasting thing, it's like it's real.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_08: It's not just like something people do on the side, on on like as a side thing, people are actually putting a lot of time, money, and effort into it.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_08: Like I think one of my favorite podcasts is one called Chris Will Chris Williamson, Modern Wisdom, and they're just such insightful conversations.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_08: I think why people love podcasts as well, you're sort of like a fly on the wall with a conversation between two people you might find really, really interesting.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_08: Short form content, don't get me wrong, has its absolute benefits uh to get that information to you fast.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_08: But if you really want to sit in and digest a conversation, I think that's where podcasts and sort of like audiobooks in a way um are really beneficial.
• 8:11
  David McClelland: Yeah, there's an authenticity about the conversations that you have on podcasts.
• 8:14
  David McClelland: Obviously, you mentioned Spotify video podcast, YouTube is a huge video podcast platform, and then as we're recording just a few days ago, Apple announced that it's bringing video to its podcast platforms as well.
• 8:26
  David McClelland: So there's still a lot of change in that area.
• 8:28
  David McClelland: Tiggs, the reason that you're there with Connor today in his studio is because you also work on a podcast as well.
• 8:35
  David McClelland: Tell me about the roles that podcast plays in your work now as a creative.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: So I've always loved podcasting.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: There is I exactly how Connor just said actually, the ability to be part of a conversation that you wouldn't necessarily be privy to, I suppose.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: And especially within the empowerment space, I get to speak to so many people from so many different walks of life about their experiences that are so wildly different, and yet we there are common themes that tie us all together within the human experience.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: So finding my user manual is my new podcast.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: We're actually today's day three of recording uh incredible people from all walks of life.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just been so great.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, I have to say, I've just had my first one.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: It was episode 11, we've just recorded.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: I've had my first cry because it was just such an incredible conversation.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I just think it's so important to put that out there to the world and say, you know, if you've got the privilege of having these incredible conversations, someone else out there is gonna need or want to hear that as well.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: And if if we have the ability to put that out there, why not make it available?
• 9:49
  David McClelland: And in terms of how this complements your work then as an empowerment photographer, as you describe it uh in the opening today, then there's a lot of I guess people sharing their stories that can be very empowering.
• 10:04
  David McClelland: But then as a photographer in your work there, you are helping people to tell their stories.
• 10:10
  David McClelland: So really a conversational format is just an extension of what you're already doing with the still images.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's one thing to be seen and to choose how you're seen, but it's a a very different and an absolute privilege to be able to make sure that someone feels heard, and that is the absolute next level, right?
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: To be seen and to be heard is what we all want in life.
• 10:35
  David McClelland: You're both part of a panel on the Monday, which Tiggs, I think you're moderating uh in Birmingham, and it's it's called What High-End Clients Really Want from Creatives.
• 10:47
  David McClelland: Give us a flavor of the type of conversations you'll be having in that panel session, Tiggs.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: I honestly I cannot tell you how I how excited I am for this one.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: So um I have been given the incredible power of being able to curate a panel of people who I think are showing up and doing incredible work within the industry.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: So, of course, Connor is coming in as a podcast specialist.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: We've also got Bayner, who is doing incredible things within the lifestyle world of content creation.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: In I mean, content creation is something that we're all having to lean into now as well.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: And she's top of the game.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: Corinne Cummings as well, who is the photographer for Eurovision, who I personally have always wanted to hear even more about her perspective of what that is like.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so I've tried to find people from different pockets, covering as much of the industry as I can with three people to say, hey, you know, we all dream of these luxury clients, these high-end clients, the, you know, the bucket list goals that we all have for our careers.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, how do we get them?
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: What what are they looking for?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: And how do we show up in a way that's supporting them, but also, you know, making making us making sure that we're making work, I suppose, that makes us feel creative joy.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I can think of three better people to bring into one space and talk about those kind of subjects.
• 12:15
  David McClelland: And Connor, in terms of bringing in high-end, exciting clients, what's been your experience of, I guess, understanding what it is that they want, but then also making it very clear that you are able to offer what it is that they want to ease that signing on the dotted line, as it were.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, absolutely.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_08: I definitely think underpromise and over-deliver, just go above their their expectations.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_08: How I got my first podcast client was very much a very whimmed voice note to a a podcast that I was already a big fan of, but I thought they could be doing better, and that sounds really big-headed of me.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_08: But I downloaded one of my favourite episodes to edit of this client's podcast, clipped it all up into short form things, sent it as a link, and was just like, hey, big fan, feel free to use these.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_08: I made them for you.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_08: Client, well, wasn't client at the time, but he posted one of them, it went pretty viral and he said, Can you come in?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_08: I've got some work for you.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_08: So just those little extra little details going above and beyond, they no, I know so people really, really appreciate that.
• 13:26
  David McClelland: And I guess uh coming back to the photography and video show, having the having the creative capability to make a particular type of image or a particular type of film, to light it in a certain way, to tell the story of a subject or a model in a particular way, that's all well and good.
• 13:45
  David McClelland: But unless you're able to build a business around that and to, as you've just described there, Connor, to sell.
• 13:52
  David McClelland: Frankly, you know, you happen to stumble on the right way to connect with that client and offered them something that appealed to them in that moment.
• 14:00
  David McClelland: To find sustainable ways to grow a business is very much what sessions like this one are on attracting those high-end clients.
• 14:08
  David McClelland: They're the things that are gonna get you booked, keep you getting booked as well.
• 14:13
  David McClelland: Uh, and Tiggs, I know that you are not just a one-track pony at the photography show.
• 14:17
  David McClelland: You know, you never are, but you've got another session as well on the Tuesday as part of the Pro Forum, which is from side hustle to sold out, how to get booked and stay booked.
• 14:29
  David McClelland: What can you tell us about what you're going to be talking about in that session?
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, just all of the things that go beyond the booking, getting the clients the first time is so much harder than getting the clients the second time.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, ways that we can almost keep retargeting the same clients, but also, you know, if we are trying to get those first clients to begin with, you know, where are we looking?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: How will how are we approaching them?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Because I mean, even just how we were talking about how Connor has approached said podcasts, yeah, that's not going to work for everybody.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, how do you lean in?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: And how do you work out potentially how that person might want to be contacted?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_08: For me, it's like if I've been sent like an a a lead or an inquiry, my thing that I've found that works well for me is voice note.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_08: Most people will send a message and it goes into the request.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_08: But if you see a request that says X person has left you a voice note, it it it peaks that entry for a little bit more into it.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_08: You're gonna listen to it.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_08: But that might not work for everybody.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_08: It might not, you know, everyone has their own style of of doing that.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_08: But I've found that as a nice way to get my foot in the door to those high-end jobs.
• 15:39
  David McClelland: And given that podcasts, the area in which you work is a conversational medium anyway.
• 15:44
  David McClelland: The fact that you're communicating in that same sort of media in which you are hoping to engage with that client, it's it it makes perfect sense.
• 15:54
  David McClelland: Again, depending upon your relationship, depending on whether you get, you know, a WhatsApp mobile number or or something to uh to get in touch with him.
• 16:01
  David McClelland: This is brilliant.
• 16:02
  David McClelland: I mean, I I've already learnt a lot in the 10 minutes or so that we've been chatting, and I hope, I hope that I'm gonna be able to come along to some of your sessions uh well, very, very shortly now in just a few days' time in Birmingham.
• 16:15
  David McClelland: So the behind the lens theatre on Monday the 16th from 11:20 until midday.
• 16:22
  David McClelland: That's the what high-end clients really want from creatives.
• 16:26
  David McClelland: Uh, that's available for everyone at the show to attend, and that's with UTIGS, that's with UConma, uh Baynard, and also Corinne as well.
• 16:33
  David McClelland: And then the uh from side hustle to sold out, that's on the Tuesday with UTIGS.
• 16:39
  David McClelland: That's in the that that's part of the pro forum.
• 16:41
  David McClelland: You need to book separately for that one.
• 16:43
  David McClelland: All of the details are on the website, and there's lots of other sessions that are going to help people to make the most of their business to find like Connor has some really cute ways of getting in touch with clients and giving him an extra opportunity perhaps to uh engage them and to make some business that sticks.
• 17:00
  David McClelland: And then with Tiggs, making sure that those clients, from your first contact with them all the way through to delivery, are happy, super happy, and want to come back for more.
• 17:10
  David McClelland: Lots of insights like that.
• 17:12
  David McClelland: For now, Connor Tiggs.
• 17:14
  David McClelland: Great to chat with you.
• 17:15
  David McClelland: And hey, all the very best of luck with with your podcast recordings, Tiggs.
• 17:20
  David McClelland: And I look forward to catching those on the socials before too long.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: We're so excited to see you in a couple of days as well.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: See you at show.
• 17:28
  David McClelland: Take care.
• 17:28
  David McClelland: Bye for now.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: Bye.
• 17:33
  David McClelland: Thanks again to Tiggs and Connor.
• 17:36
  David McClelland: Details of their sessions that we spoke about, and all of the other creative and professional on stage and seminar room sessions are available in the show notes.
• 17:45
  David McClelland: Meanwhile, continuing with our show preview theme this month.
• 17:49
  David McClelland: I mentioned earlier on that we'd be welcoming the brains behind the Birmingham event.
• 17:54
  David McClelland: Well, here they are.
• 17:55
  David McClelland: Hazel and Ruth, welcome back to the podcast.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_04: Not sure I've got any brain left at this point.
• 18:02
  David McClelland: Don't worry, don't worry.
• 18:03
  David McClelland: I understand where you're at.
• 18:04
  David McClelland: We are but a few days away from the Birmingham show.
• 18:07
  David McClelland: I know you're both super busy at the moment, so thanks for taking a few minutes to chat and to fill us in on some of the last-minute updates.
• 18:14
  David McClelland: Uh, Ruth, speakers, I I know that you've been for four months, I mean, probably almost a year, one way or another, uh, have been putting together the speaker lineup.
• 18:25
  David McClelland: Just give us a rundown as to what visitors to Birmingham can expect.
• 18:30
  David McClelland: And um, yeah, any anything you're particularly keen to share in that regard.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, there's been lots going on behind the scenes here.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_04: We've um we've got an amazing lineup across all of the different stages.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_04: Really, I'm excited to to see them all come to life on site.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but yeah, we've got um some the big names um that I would say.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_04: Uh we've got Lindsay Adler, Charlie Waite, uh then fabulous music photographer Dennis Morris and social history photographer.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_04: And Alan Sharla as well, the street photographer.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, there's there's loads going on in across the whole program.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um, really excited about the creator stage again.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I think there's some great individual sessions on there.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_04: We've got a couple of really nice panels as well, one from Sam Bassett and one around um AI and the future of content creation from uh with Charlie Lawrence from uh from Great Talent.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um so yeah, it's it's looking exciting.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, and another big name as well.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_04: We have the amazing Misha Moinerad uh joining us.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_04: He's uh you'd know him as Mr.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_04: Colitus Crohn's on online, um, and he is he does an amazing job across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, spreading a really educational message about invisible illnesses and and all that, but he's also really into his tech and he's gonna talk a lot as well about how uh how he creates all that um and how how his uh kind of content journey has happened in terms of how he produces his content and so on.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, really exciting.
• 20:04
  David McClelland: Really exciting.
• 20:05
  David McClelland: I think I'm gonna be speaking with him at the show uh as well.
• 20:08
  David McClelland: So yeah, really looking forward to that chat.
• 20:10
  David McClelland: Thank you for hooking us up.
• 20:11
  David McClelland: And of course, some of the photography video show podcast favourites, Sophie Darlington, and so on.
• 20:18
  David McClelland: You know, people who we've been speaking with over the last six months or so would also be at the show.
• 20:24
  David McClelland: So uh yeah, really, really excited for that.
• 20:27
  David McClelland: But there's lots, obviously, the speakers, the amazing speakers on stage is one thing, but Hazel, the exhibitors, many people are going there to learn more about the brands that they buy, learn more about the new technology that might be on the horizon or is just being uh announced.
• 20:42
  David McClelland: Tell us about uh tell us about some of the exhibitors that you are excited for visitors to see, but also maybe some some new and some different exhibitors to what visitors in the past may have seen and heard from.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_04: We've got uh all of the I say old favourites, um the the Canons and the Sonys and the Nikons of the world.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_04: So I think Nikon will be bringing their their new new lens.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_04: We've got um Sony.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_04: There's a couple of things that I'm that I'm excited about.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um Manfrotto have uh a new launch coming out and will be the the kind of first look in the UK for that.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um that'll be out a week um going public a week just a week before the show.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_04: So um that that'll be an interesting one.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_04: We've got uh Rico Pentax bringing the GR4 and that's their kind of dive into digital.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so that's that's that's an exciting one.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_04: Um first light optics.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_04: Um we don't we haven't had um an optics company at such for quite a while now.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_04: Um and I'm really excited about that because um in layman's terms, because that's all I can do, uh they have telescopes which track the stars.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: And record, which means that if you are into astrophotography, you don't have to sit outside in the cold.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_04: They automatically do everything for you.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_04: And I can't think of anything better than not sitting outside in the cold.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: Although Josh Jury might disagree.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_04: We've also got some great competitions.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_04: And some of the smaller ones like Pender Photo Tours, they're actually giving away a photography holiday as part of as part of their kind of show presence.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_04: Adobe would be doing their daily draws as well.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_04: They they do one every day, don't they?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_04: Some good prizes on that too.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_04: And Adobe.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_04: So that's an exciting one as well.
• 23:22
  David McClelland: So exhibitors, competitions, masterclasses, Ruth.
• 23:27
  David McClelland: I know this is something that you've also been developing over the last few years.
• 23:31
  David McClelland: What can you tell us about the master classes on site this year?
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so we've got a couple of specialist masterclasses going on.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_04: We have, I can't remember what order they're in now in my head, but I'll just say them in the order that they come to mind.
• 23:44
  David McClelland: We'll put some stuff in the show notes.
• 23:45
  David McClelland: We'll put all the links that people need.
• 23:48
  unknown: Yeah.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_04: No, exactly.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: So we've got um Belinda coming over with uh from Australia with um and doing her dog photography master class.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna get her, I'm gonna forget her name out.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_04: Belinda Richards, that's it.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_04: Belinda Richards, yes.
• 24:03
  David McClelland: Clearly, friend of the podcast and saw her last year.
• 24:07
  David McClelland: Saw her last year do it doing some work with pets, and it was so, so charming.
• 24:12
  David McClelland: She worked so hard, but she's got such an empathy with the animals how she develops that and gets the best out of her subjects there in a in a very calm and kind manner with the animals as well.
• 24:23
  David McClelland: Yeah, it was great to watch.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_04: So she's gonna do something on the photo live stage and something on editing as well, but she's also doing a 90-minute um masterclass uh separately too.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: So that uh that's that should be really good.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_04: And uh, if anyone's into dog photography, do book onto that.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_04: I think we've still got some spaces left, so at the moment.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_04: Um Fori Yavari is back.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_04: She was last with us in 2024, and she's gonna do um a a lighting, a portrait lighting um masterclass, which should be amazing.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: So um, yeah, that will be, I think that's on the Monday of the show.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um, Belinda's on the Sunday.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um also on the Sunday, we've got um a cinematographer, a DOP uh coming in, uh Yanis Utala.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: Um she will be doing a uh a film lighting masterclass as well.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_04: So kind of setting up a documentary interview and how you go about lighting that process.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_04: So if anybody's really into the into their video production, even if you're not gonna go, you know, super high end with what you do, I think you'll look you'd learn loads there.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_04: So I think that'd be you know it'd be really valuable to to attend as well.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_04: We've got some photo walks and things as well, haven't we?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um uh we've got a a a children's photo walk for the first time this year as well.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so um one of the judges from so we had the the week junior science and nature uh scavenger hunt photo contest.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_04: That's right, that's the long name, yes.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so they've run that competition again over the summer, and we have the gallery on site for that as well, showcasing the all the finalists.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_04: But one of the judges from uh from that is coming to do uh a photo walk for kids.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_04: So um Ellie Rothney, who is um she's a Canon ambassador as well.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so yeah, she's coming to do a photo walk uh for kids on the Saturday of the show.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_04: So um, yeah, that's really nice to see.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_04: I can't wait to see all the kids out with their cameras.
• 26:19
  David McClelland: Brilliant.
• 26:20
  David McClelland: Uh of course, photo walks with Ellen Rothney, that's great.
• 26:23
  David McClelland: But there's also lots of opportunities to take some amazing pictures inside the photography show hall as well, with the creator playground, which has blossomed.
• 26:33
  David McClelland: It's taken on a life of its own over the last couple of years that you've been running it.
• 26:38
  David McClelland: What can you tell us about the creator playground this year?
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_04: I can tell you that it lives in our heads all year round and thinking of ideas and stuff.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but yeah, it's got a it's got a really nice theme this year.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be um and a sort of around the world theme, a travel theme.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_04: We've got, you know, sets from kind of Europe, you know, Greece and uh and so on.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_04: We've got uh a snowy scene, um, we've even got um a safari scene and things like that.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_04: We've got um all sorts going on, and it should be really fun.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and just you know, we've even actually we've even got a we've taken it quite literally around the world.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_04: We've got a sp a space shuttle uh scene as well.
• 27:23
  David McClelland: So brilliant, brilliant.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_04: There's all sorts going on there, and it should be really fun.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_04: And some good things, you know, there's a swing, there's there's all sorts of turntables that you can kind of uh you know, film yourself or uh turning around in a beautiful scene.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it should be really fun.
• 27:37
  David McClelland: Travel the world and beyond within the confines of uh of a hall at the NEC at the photography and video show.
• 27:44
  David McClelland: Brilliant stuff.
• 27:45
  David McClelland: Sounds like great fun.
• 27:46
  David McClelland: Sounds like great fun.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's worth mentioning that uh you can you can go to Korea and there is a certain um a certain link with a an a a big brand that is uh coming to the show that we haven't been able to announce as yet.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_04: Um they have just launched their galaxy, their new galaxy S26.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll be able to go to Korea as well as part of it.
• 28:16
  David McClelland: Fantastic.
• 28:17
  David McClelland: And then Hazel buying stuff, of course, the retail experience is is a huge part of what the photography and video show is all about, and you provide for that in spades there.
• 28:29
  David McClelland: What can you tell us about the retail experience this year?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we are one of the one of the only shows where you can buy direct and you can literally walk away with your purchases there and then and take them home and start taking pictures on your brand new camera as soon as you get home, or even before that.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_04: Um we've got two retailers on site, uh we've got Wex Photo Video and uh London Camera Exchange.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_04: They will have deals galore going on.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we've got uh quotes from visitors from previous years who've uh said we've saved this on this bundle and we've saved this, and it's just it's actually amazing.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_04: I think I think people underestimate how good the deals can be on site.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_04: You can also uh both of them will do trade-ins and there are finance options as well.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_04: So if you're a professional in particular, um it's worth considering that.
• 29:28
  David McClelland: I am using equipment that I have myself picked up at some incredible show deals from the photography and video show.
• 29:34
  David McClelland: My camera, my my a good part of my lighting is is all stuff that I've picked up there because I know I may as well wait a month or two or a few weeks because A, I will have an opportunity to touch it, feel it, try it, speak to somebody who already uses it, so it gives me the confidence to buy the right thing.
• 29:52
  David McClelland: But also, I know I'm gonna get a bar there because those show deals are extraordinary.
• 29:58
  David McClelland: I should mention one more.
• 30:00
  David McClelland: I they're not a retailer, but they sell stuff there and people make a beeline for them as soon as the doors open, particularly on the Saturday morning, and that's the disabled photographers society.
• 30:11
  David McClelland: Uh, will they be back this year?
• 30:13
  David McClelland: And are you expecting more of the absolute bargains uh that people have come to expect from that stand?
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, absolutely.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_04: They will be there with with bells and whistles.
• 30:26
  David McClelland: Well, there probably will be some bells and whistles on their stand as well as some vintage camera equipment uh and uh and lots of lenses and all of the stuff that you probably didn't realise that you did need.
• 30:38
  David McClelland: Uh and yeah, brilliant.
• 30:39
  David McClelland: All right.
• 30:40
  David McClelland: Um I think I'm I I think my brain's already full.
• 30:43
  David McClelland: I I was already excited about what what to expect at the event, but uh today's today's podcast has you know it's it's given us a bit of everything about what it's going to look like when when we're actually there.
• 30:57
  David McClelland: Thank you for chatting us through that.
• 31:00
  David McClelland: Uh I'm sure there'll be other bits and bobs that get announced over the next few days between now and when the show goes out.
• 31:06
  David McClelland: Social media is probably the best place to keep across that.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_04: Keep an eye on our website as well.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_04: I always finish these chats and think, oh, I should have mentioned that.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_04: I should have mentioned that.
• 31:14
  David McClelland: So Hazel Ruth, thank you so much for chatting us through all of the sort of late breaking news from the photography and video show.
• 31:23
  David McClelland: New exhibitors, new speakers, new uh a whole new theme to the creator playground, and of course the masterclasses, photo walks, competitions, opportunities to buy stuff.
• 31:35
  David McClelland: It's it's all there at the NEC from the 14th to the 17th of March this year.
• 31:41
  David McClelland: All the best between now and then.
• 31:43
  David McClelland: Look forward to seeing you in Birmingham.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, David.
• 31:49
  David McClelland: Time now to hear from some more of our amazing professionals about what they'll be sharing on stage at this year's show.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_12: Hi, I'm Janina Wilde, and I really can't wait for the photography show this year.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_10: Hi, I'm Emily Ndeem, and I'm super excited to be talking at the photography show again this year.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_09: This is Josh Jewelry, and I'm returning for this year's photography and video show.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: I spent much time filming as official videographer to the Prime Minister and Cabinet Ministers during the most intense phases of the Brexit negotiations where every frame mattered.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: And in this session, I'll share stories and reflections from that period, what it taught me about judgment, restraint, and capturing moments.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: We'll look at how trust is built behind the camera, how to stay grounded when stakes are high, and how to tell stories that last beyond the moments they're filmed.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_13: I'm going to be talking about imposter syndrome and how that showed up for me in my business as a wedding photographer and how it kind of shaped the way I ran my business for the first like six years.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_13: What changed in my life to make me think differently and hopefully sharing some tips and tricks with you all.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_09: I will be discussing pressing astronomical matters, from events that haven't occurred in over 19 years to using the latest camera technology.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_09: But most importantly, what is the future of astrophotography?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_10: I work across multiple genres and I don't see that as being unfocused, I see that more as just being strategic.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_10: One tip I'll be sharing at the show don't ask what's my niche, instead, ask what problems can I solve with the skills I already have.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_12: I'm ultra excited about spreading the world about my passion, which is multiple exposure.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_12: I find it really creative, it gives me such a creative buzz.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_12: It gives me a bit of well-being and mindfulness.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_12: It really slows down what I'm doing, whether that be taking images in camera or in the post-production process.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_05: My plan is to walk on stage with everything I need to actually take some photos.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_05: Not set up, I mean literally carrying it onto the stage.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_05: If I can't carry it onto the stage, I'm not going to use it.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_05: Because I want to show that lighting, creative, dramatic lighting, doesn't have to be with expensive heavy equipment.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_05: You can carry stuff around and still make really good pictures.
• 34:13
  David McClelland: This month's news is in partnership with the brand new Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra.
• 34:18
  David McClelland: Now I'm in Barcelona today for Mobile World Congress, which over the years has been the launch pad for many an impressive new smartphone.
• 34:27
  David McClelland: Of course, smartphones' camera capabilities are super important for the buying public, but increasingly for professional content creators too.
• 34:35
  David McClelland: The Galaxy S26 Ultra is the flagship device in Samsung's newly announced S26 lineup.
• 34:41
  David McClelland: So new, in fact, is not actually available in the shops yet.
• 34:44
  David McClelland: It's on pre-order only until the 11th of March.
• 34:47
  David McClelland: But while I'm here at MWC Barcelona, I've been able to swing by the absolutely enormous Samsung booth here and take a very quick first hands-on look.
• 34:58
  David McClelland: And here it is, the Galaxy S26 Ultra.
• 35:01
  David McClelland: On the front, first of all, is a really bright uh 6.9-inch QHD Plus, I think Samsung calls it display, and it is really bright, 2600 nits.
• 35:13
  David McClelland: This screen does have another quite unique trick up its sleeve as well.
• 35:16
  David McClelland: We'll come back to that in a moment.
• 35:18
  David McClelland: Because I want to turn over and focus on the camera hardware.
• 35:22
  David McClelland: Look at the wide angles, first of all.
• 35:24
  David McClelland: What are the headlines?
• 35:25
  David McClelland: It's a 200 megapixel f1.4 sensor lens combo that's got an optical quality of a two times zoom on there.
• 35:35
  David McClelland: An ultra-wide, which is a 50 megapixel f1.9 camera.
• 35:40
  David McClelland: Let's go to the telephoto side though.
• 35:43
  David McClelland: Of course, zooming with your feet is good, but when you can't do that, zooming with a telephoto lens is your next best option.
• 35:48
  David McClelland: And boy, does this have that in spades.
• 35:50
  David McClelland: The first telephoto is a 10 megapixel f2.4 with a three times optical zoom.
• 35:56
  David McClelland: And then the second telephoto is a 50 megapixel f2.9 lens convo, five times optical zoom, and then what Samsung calls 10x optical quality zoom.
• 36:07
  David McClelland: Here's a demo of the focal lengths available with this array of lenses from the ultra wide 0.6 to 1.
• 36:17
  David McClelland: Zooming in on the chandelier, there's two times optical quality, three, five times optical, and then ten times optical quality.
• 36:27
  David McClelland: That's really smart.
• 36:28
  David McClelland: And then you can go 30 digital all the way up to 100.
• 36:33
  David McClelland: Look at that.
• 36:35
  David McClelland: I mean the quality is going to suffer a little bit there, and it's quite difficult to hold.
• 36:38
  David McClelland: But actually, the image stabilization, even at 100 times, is pretty impressive.
• 36:46
  David McClelland: Back to the safety, relative safety of 10.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that looks really smart.
• 36:52
  David McClelland: And then on the front here, we've got a 12-megapixel F2.2 sensor lens combo.
• 36:59
  David McClelland: So a lot of hardware for sure on one device.
• 37:02
  David McClelland: And as we become we become used to that over the years, of course, more cameras being put into more smartphones.
• 37:07
  David McClelland: But I think it's where the software and in particular the Galaxy AI comes in to support that hardware, that's when new stuff begins to happen.
• 37:16
  David McClelland: One of those examples of the hardware and the software all coming together is a feature called horizontal lock, which is essentially image stabilization on steroids, and it's it's really useful, also a lot of fun as well.
• 37:29
  David McClelland: So the best demo that I can do here with a tethered phone on a show floor is this.
• 37:35
  David McClelland: I'm going to uh point the camera at my face and then just hit record like that.
• 37:44
  David McClelland: Right, so we are now recording, and then I'm just gonna pretend that I'm going for a bit of a run like that, and then I'm gonna turn the phone sideways.
• 37:52
  David McClelland: That's to say I've completely lost my framing, completely lost attention to what's on the phone.
• 37:58
  David McClelland: Bouncing up and down again, all the way, ba ba ba ba ba ba.
• 38:02
  David McClelland: Yeah, printing out.
• 38:03
  David McClelland: Alright, that would give most gimbals a bit of a nightmare.
• 38:07
  David McClelland: Press stop again.
• 38:09
  David McClelland: Alright, so I can't get the file off the phone, but I can certainly replay it here.
• 38:14
  David McClelland: So let's have a look.
• 38:15
  David McClelland: There we go.
• 38:16
  David McClelland: That is replaying, and yeah, it's bouncing up and down a little bit, but I was turning the phone 90 almost 100 degrees at that point, and look how upright I still am in the frame.
• 38:28
  David McClelland: That is really smart.
• 38:30
  David McClelland: Who needs a gimbal?
• 38:32
  David McClelland: I can see that being really useful for content creators.
• 38:34
  David McClelland: Of course, the software is also a big help when it comes to post-production as well.
• 38:38
  David McClelland: There's a feature here called photo assist that basically lets you talk with your image editor to uh maybe correct, maybe just to change around.
• 38:47
  David McClelland: It's it's pretty smart.
• 38:48
  David McClelland: Let me do an example right now.
• 38:50
  David McClelland: First of all, with one of the images that that comes on the phone for demo purposes, and then I'll do one with an image that I've just taken.
• 38:56
  David McClelland: Um, but I like this one because I like cake, so there's a big bite that's been taken out of this cake, and I can basically just say remove the bite from the cake, and the generative Galaxy AI stuff on there will make that happen.
• 39:10
  David McClelland: So, how you do that?
• 39:11
  David McClelland: You tap on the sparkles at the bottom, which is sparkles are kind of shorthand for AI these days.
• 39:16
  David McClelland: And now it's giving me some options there.
• 39:18
  David McClelland: I'm gonna tap on create and it's saying describe what it is you want to change.
• 39:23
  David McClelland: I'm gonna tap in there and then talk to it.
• 39:27
  David McClelland: Remove the byte from the cake.
• 39:30
  David McClelland: Okay.
• 39:33
  David McClelland: Tap on generate, and it's gonna think about it for a second or two.
• 39:39
  David McClelland: Turning dreams into reality, I think it said.
• 39:42
  David McClelland: And there we go, the bite has gone.
• 39:46
  David McClelland: So that's with one of the pre-provided images, but I wanted to test it with a real-world image as well.
• 39:52
  David McClelland: So again, I'm a little bit limited.
• 39:54
  David McClelland: I took a photo of my wrist of me wearing my my watch.
• 39:58
  David McClelland: So let me just load that up.
• 39:59
  David McClelland: Here we go.
• 40:00
  David McClelland: So that is my wrist here on this desk wearing a watch, and I'm gonna do the same thing, but this time to see if we can remove that, what that looks like.
• 40:07
  David McClelland: So tap on the sparkles, and then create.
• 40:16
  David McClelland: Remove the watch from my wrist.
• 40:23
  David McClelland: Alright, so tap on generate and fingers crossed, the magic sparkles will remove the watch from my wrists.
• 40:33
  David McClelland: Here we go.
• 40:34
  David McClelland: Nice animation, just as for the for the big reveal as well.
• 40:37
  David McClelland: That's quite smart.
• 40:39
  David McClelland: And the watch is gone, and actually, it's done a really good job, including getting rid of the uh the the shadow.
• 40:47
  David McClelland: Still the same hairy wrist, there is the wrist on the watch, the watch on the wrist.
• 40:51
  David McClelland: But that's that's really smart, and of course, that's not going to be for everybody.
• 40:54
  David McClelland: But if you just need a quick edit, quick tidy up, maybe there was a bite missing from a cake and you wanted the nice clean cake, then that's gonna be a a lot of fun, but B also really handy to have this on the device, not having to take the image onto your computer, upload it, do some image editing in another app.
• 41:12
  David McClelland: It's really good to have it right here on the phone, it's in your pocket.
• 41:16
  David McClelland: Let's come back to this screen on the front.
• 41:18
  David McClelland: And these days smartphones have got really, really good viewing angles, which is great, but sometimes that's not what you want.
• 41:24
  David McClelland: You don't want those shoulder surfers or nosy parkers seeing what's on your screen.
• 41:28
  David McClelland: And in what is, I understand, to be a world's first on the phone, Samsung's put something in called privacy display.
• 41:36
  David McClelland: Now, you can get those films and those things that you apply to your screen that mean that as soon as you know you're not looking straight on, then the screen darkens and that prevents other people from seeing what's on there.
• 41:47
  David McClelland: But they're always a kind of compromise, they always look a bit tatty on your screen, and they do impact brightness and clarity for you when you're using a device all the time.
• 41:55
  David McClelland: This is built into the hardware and it's fully customizable.
• 41:58
  David McClelland: I'm gonna see if I can demo it here.
• 42:01
  David McClelland: Um, we'll see how it comes across on camera.
• 42:03
  David McClelland: So, this is this is what the screen on the camera looks like, screen on the phone looks like normally.
• 42:09
  David McClelland: And then I'm gonna turn privacy display on, and now when you'll see, as soon as you go off axis a little bit, the screen goes entirely dark for you.
• 42:20
  David McClelland: Pretty good.
• 42:21
  David McClelland: There's a a few levels uh you can you know make it even even stronger in effect, you know, so people can't look from kind of underneath as well.
• 42:30
  David McClelland: That's good, but the really good thing is that it's also fully customizable, so it could be just per application, or when you're putting in a pin or a password, or you know, swiping a pattern to unlock the device, even just for notification.
• 42:45
  David McClelland: So maybe you're watching a video, some friends are watching a video over your shoulder, and then a notification pops up.
• 42:51
  David McClelland: You don't want your friends to see that, it could be just that notification that has the privacy display enabled.
• 42:58
  David McClelland: Really smart, and the first time we're seeing this built into a smartphone, and there are lots more camera hardware and software features beside, including one that brings out a lot more detail and clarity in low-light video, they call that nitography video.
• 43:12
  David McClelland: There's a feature that will help to sort out housekeep your library of photos.
• 43:17
  David McClelland: Uh, if you're anything like me, I very rarely do any housekeeping in there, and it's a real mess.
• 43:21
  David McClelland: So, sorting things into folders, screenshots.
• 43:24
  David McClelland: If you need to find a QR code that you took a picture of earlier on, be able to find those real time saver that.
• 43:30
  David McClelland: So, this phone isn't on general sale yet, which is why it's been really special to be able to get hands-on with it here in Barcelona this week.
• 43:37
  David McClelland: It is on pre-order right now, and that's all the way through the 10th of March, after which it goes on general sale.
• 43:44
  David McClelland: But if you want to get hands-on with the Galaxy S26 Ultra and try out some of these fun features the frivole display and the horizontal lock and so on for yourself, then you can, but you will need to be at the photography and video show from the 14th to the 17th of March at the NEC in Burbiga.
• 44:03
  David McClelland: And that is it.
• 44:04
  David McClelland: And if all of that hasn't wetted your appetite for this year's photography and video show, then frankly, I don't know what will.
• 44:10
  David McClelland: I'll be there, of course, for all four days, Saturday 14th to Tuesday the 17th of March 2026, hall 5 at the NEC.
• 44:17
  David McClelland: It's the big hall, if you know it, right by the entrance there next to the Starbucks.
• 44:21
  David McClelland: If you've been before, then we will once again have that enormous big screen suspended above the main entrance, and we'll be showing interviews and demos and highlights and even some bits and bobs from the podcast too.
• 44:33
  David McClelland: I'll also be there recording a bonus episode of the podcast.
• 44:37
  David McClelland: So do stop by and say hi.
• 44:40
  David McClelland: It's always good to chat.
• 44:41
  David McClelland: If you haven't got your tickets yet, then it's not too late.
• 44:45
  David McClelland: The show is easy to get to by train and by plane, come to think of it as well.
• 44:49
  David McClelland: It's walking distance from the train station and from the airport.
• 44:52
  David McClelland: Head over to photography show.com for tickets.
• 44:55
  David McClelland: And remember, if you are a professional photographer, filmmaker, content creator, then you can still apply for free entry to the show.
• 45:04
  David McClelland: Details on the website.
• 45:05
  David McClelland: Drop us a line on the socials, on Instagram, at the Photography Show.
• 45:09
  David McClelland: I am at DavidMcClelland TV.
• 45:12
  David McClelland: Find us too on Facebook, on TikTok, and you can even send me an actual SMS text message.
• 45:18
  David McClelland: Just tap on the link in the show notes.
• 45:20
  David McClelland: But for now, that is all.
• 45:22
  David McClelland: Bye bye.
• 45:23
  David McClelland: See you in Birmingham.