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The DOLPHINS bench TUA TAGOVALIOA! What's next for them? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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For four, I told you, giant feet, Saquon Barkley
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we are back. Ladies and gentlemen, it's been
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a crazy, crazy day. You're listening to a no new
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show of Jabba and the Mouth. My name is Errol Marx, my Co
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website at www.worldwidesportsradio dot
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com. I will say this for all the fans
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out there, the football season is almost over and there's Joe
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Burrow story and we're going to get into a little a little bit
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later. I definitely want to speak about
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some of the things that Joe Burrow has said over the last 24
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to 48 hours, which is pretty alarming to me if I'm a
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Cincinnati Bengals fan. He doesn't, even though he says
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he believes he will be playing for the Cincinnati Bengals next
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year. A lot of the inside sources and
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friends and family have said that he is not very happy with
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the organization. It doesn't like what the
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organization has done in the past couple of years, especially
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protecting him. The offensive line has been
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horrendous and he's been hit more than any quarterback in the
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last Four Seasons. He also hasn't played as much as
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every single quarterback because every other year he's hurt.
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So I you can tell that Joe Burrow is he's in that state of
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mind. Where is the Bengals, the
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organization who wants to finish his career with?
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Or is he going to do an Andrew Luck where he just decides to
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walk away from the sport and the game and he doesn't feel like he
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needs to prove himself anymore as a professional athlete.
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So I don't know what Joe Burrow is going to be planning to do in
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the near future, but over the offseason, ladies and gentlemen,
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I'm interested to see how Cincinnati is going to react to
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it. Zach Taylor, is he going to keep
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his job with the, you know, back-to-back years of just not
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making the playoffs? And, and really an organization
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that at one point was one of the best teams in the AFC, one of
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the up and coming teams they had, they have the offensive
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rookie of the year. They had a team that went all
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the way to the Super Bowl and fell short against the Rams.
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And now you have your quarterback not very happy with
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the organization. Not really.
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The perspective of the organization is, is the the GM
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has no idea what he's doing. He loves the coach and I think
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he believes that the coach is going to get let go.
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And, and if that happens, does he want to be there?
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Because the organization has been not a successful 1 and in
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the last time. But besides this run that they
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made a couple of years ago into the Super Bowl, the last time
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they went to the Super Bowl was with Boomerasiasen against the
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49ers. It has been a long, long time
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since the the lonely Cincinnati Bengals have really got gotten
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over the hump and and to have a quarterback of this magnitude.
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They did have one they had as a Heisman Trophy winning Carlson
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Palmer who ran himself out of Cincinnati after what, 5-6
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years? So and what where we are, where
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we at right now with Joe Burrow? He's been about 5-6 years in the
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mix with this team, this organization.
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Is it 5 or 6 years BT or is it 76?
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It's six years. So this is about the time that
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Carlson Parma decided to part ways with the Cincinnati
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Bengals. And he came out and said at his
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press conference at the end of the season is I don't know if I
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even want to play anymore. And if I do, I don't want to be
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playing for this organization. So it's alarming to me.
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If you're an any Cincinnati Bengal fan that's listening to
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the show right now, I feel for you because I've been a Jet fan
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my whole life, my whole life, and I've been waiting to get a
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quarterback of this magnitude. And now you have a quarterback
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that you believed was going to be your franchise.
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He's fairly young. He's only 2829 years old, still
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has his whole career. He's at the prime of his career
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as a quarterback and he doesn't want to be there anymore.
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He's at his wit's end with the organization and that's alarming
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to me. So hopefully, hopefully very,
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very soon. And Speedy, stop typing.
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It's annoying. You're terrible at it.
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I will say this. When you, when you look at the
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organization and where the organization is, you would worry
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that your best player, your franchise quarterback does not
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want to be there and you just overpaid Jamar Chase and T
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Higgins and you have no defense. You have no future there because
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Trey Hendrickson is going to be a free free agent in the
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offseason and your number one draft pick was a pass rusher who
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looks like he's going to be a bust.
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So it to me, it's just everything is falling apart
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right in front of the Bengals eyes and they're turning into
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that franchise again that can never get over the hump.
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So very interesting. But Jabba, how's the weather
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over there in the one and only Nebraska?
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Well, it's it's a little bit chillier now, but we get through
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the weekend and then it's supposed to be back in the mid
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50s. So that's the, like I said, the
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epitome of what I've said before in the bipolarness of what
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Nebraska weather is. So, yeah, now been a busy day.
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Got a great workout with Carter in today.
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Got to do some business stuff that is literally might pull me
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away for a minute. But just one of those days where
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you know, when, when things fall into place and, and you know,
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the right people and, and you get into the right, you know,
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realm of, of what your what your lane is and, and, and get a
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meet, like I said, those right people and, and have the
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connections and some really cool things coming down the road,
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which I'm excited to share. And, you know, I think there's,
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there's a part of this show that's going to be a part of
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that dynamic, which I don't think any other conglomerate
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that can say that to be able to be a part of something really,
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really cool. So I'm excited.
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So, you know, it's a leg work. We crawl before we walk, but
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like I say, let's crawl before we walk because then we went on
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a crawl back before we walked. 8:45 We'll be talking to
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MLB.com. Yankee beat reporter and author
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of 62. Brian Hoke will be joining us.
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He's been on a show. He's 1 of Jabba's men and we're
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happy to have him on. I know he's been working really,
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really hard for the Yankees and his obviously storytelling over
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there at the winter meetings. The Yankees have not made any
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moves. So I'm sure Brian Hoke has the
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inside scoop with the New York Yankees, maybe some, some other
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inside scoop with the New York Mets and what the New York Mets
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are doing right now, because they're absolutely lost.
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And I, I don't know why anybody thinks that Jorge Polanco is
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going to fix any of the problems they have as far as looting,
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losing Pete Alonzo and Edwin Diaz.
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I mean, I, I'm not saying Jorge Polanco is not a good player.
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He's 32 years old and how many years does he have left at the
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top of his game? They signed it to a two year
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extension. But I, I, I mean, do you really
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need any more infield help? I I think your infields pretty
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sets. So I I don't get this move.
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I guess they're adding another bat, another I guess Dominican,
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I think is Blanco Dominican or is he Puerto Rico?
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He's a span another Spanish player.
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So I I see what the Mets are trying to do and and I
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understand they have a Spanish coach and they have a lot of big
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time superstars that are Spanish.
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You have Lindor, you have Soto and and they're building around
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that. So we'll see how this all is
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going to fit together. Speaking of fitting together,
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ESP NS Adam Schefner reports that the Miami Dolphins have
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benched Tua after his poor play in a 28 to 15 Monday Night
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Football loss to the Steelers. Rookie queen of yours.
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I love him and I watched him play for.
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Texas was named the starting quarterback for the weeks for
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for this week's matchup against the Bengals.
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With Zach Wilson backing him up, Tua will be the emergency third
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string quarterback. Head coach Mike McDaniel said
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that he has been disappointed in the quarterback play this season
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as the Dolphins have gone to a run heavy attack with Tua's poor
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performance hurting the passing attack.
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Tua leads the NFL with 15 interceptions this year and had
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the had just 65 yards through 3/4 in Monday's loss against the
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Steelers. Tua has two more years left on
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his BIG4 year deal worth about $212 million he signed in 2024.
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Really releasing to a would cost the Dolphins $99.2 million in
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dead cap space, although if they wait until after June 1st to cut
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him, they can spread that dead cap out of two years.
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When it comes to the contract to express his disappointment with
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the move, but said he would do what he what he could do to help
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yours. The Miami Herald reports that
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Zach Wilson was frustrated that the Dolphins started yours over
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him. With the loss to the Steelers,
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the Dolphins fell to six and eight and are now in danger of
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having their first losing record under McDaniels and have
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officially been eliminated from the playoffs.
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I, I will say this, if you're a Dolphins fan, you're wondering
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if this organization is on the right path.
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I like Mike McDaniels. I, I, I've always liked Mike
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McDaniel. He's a he's a good young coach.
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He's small. I call him Mighty Mouse.
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He he stands on a stepping stool and he speaks with such
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enthusiasm. He's a scientific personality.
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I think he went to one of the top schools in the country, one
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of the top collegiate schools because of his mind and his his
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presence when it comes to understanding and educating
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people on and off the football field.
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But this is football. This is a man's sport and it's a
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rough man sport and to me, Mike McDaniels has done what you
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needed him to do to prove that he deserves another year.
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I think obviously trading and letting players go at the trade
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deadline some some of your best defensive players.
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You traded A linebacker and Phillips to the Eagles.
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He's won. He's been one of your better
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players on the defensive side of the ball to trade him.
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You're pretty much calling it quits in the middle of the
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season and then you lose Tyree Kill early in the season with a
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a horrible injury. It was just horrible to watch
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and a lot of people thought that Tyree Kill would have been
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traded to the the the Chiefs or one of these top end teams that
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are fighting for a playoff spot at the trade deadline anyways,
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because Tyreek has not been the player they thought he was going
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to be over the last two seasons, they extended him.
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He's not been the same Tyreek Hill that we saw the first two
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years with the Miami Dolphins and rarely the last two years
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where he dominated, dominated with the Kansas City Chiefs.
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But Miami is a team and an organization that could be
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comparable to the New York Jets, comparable to the Browns.
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Ownership doesn't know what they're doing.
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Ownership decides to make drastic moves.
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Now, making this move, first of all, parting ways with two
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attack of Viola with what, four games left makes no sense.
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If you were going to do this, you should have done this in the
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middle of the season after the trade deadline.
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Because if you're trading away pieces, you're pretty much
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telling the fan base that you're parting with the season.
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And that's what they did. But I got to give Mike McDaniel
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a little bit of credit because Mike McDaniel did what you
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wanted your coach to do. No matter how many moves they
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made and whatever they decided to part ways with, he still
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found a way to win. He still had these guys playing
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for him, which shows that the players still believe that he
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can coach and still believe in him as a coach.
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So why even think to part ways with him in the offseason?
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But then you look at Tua and you look at him at 15 interceptions,
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he hasn't been the elite quarterback we thought he was
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going to be. And if you remember the
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Dolphins, and I'm not going to mention what coach, but at that
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point when they drafted to her, they were really interested in
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Justin Herbert. They had a chance to land Justin
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Herbert, but the organization decided to draft to her.
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Justin Herbert has become one of the elite quarterbacks in the
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League, One of the more I would say top 7 heavy quarterbacks,
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elite quarterbacks in the league.
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You can see that he's changed his style ever since Jim
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Harbaugh has come into the mix. And I'm not saying Mike McDaniel
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would have changed Justin Herbert into an elite
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quarterback, but what I do know is Mike McDaniel has done a lot
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with very little and with a quarterback with two attack of
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Viola. He has not been the quarterback
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that he was with Alabama, a national champion, a guy that
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can make when he was playing college football, every single
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throw, can move outside of the pocket, use his legs because
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he's had concussion problems. And ever since that first
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concussion happened in the NFL, which has been about five of
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them, he has been stagnant and not believing that he should
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move outside of the pocket and make a play with his legs
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because he's afraid to get clothes line and be on the IR.
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But Miami is in a division that's been dominated by Buffalo
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for the last five or six years and has been dominated by the
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New England Patriots for about 20.
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And you look at the organization, they have one of
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the richest owners and one of the dumbest owners in
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professional sports. He spends money like it's, it's,
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it's, it's like Monopoly money when it comes to this guy.
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And he just makes the wrong decisions as an owner.
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I remember a couple of years ago, ownership has decided to
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spread out the wealth and bring in movie stars and actress and
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actresses to be partial owners of the organization.
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Why? To maybe draw more people to the
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stands, more fans to come and watch the games, or just make
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these owners or these players more important and have these
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guys or these girls come to the games and enjoy it with the
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ownership. Nevertheless, this is an
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organization that has done everything wrong.
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But they're not the worst organization, and they're still
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an organization that has pieces where they can build on #1
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Waddle is a great player. Waddell is still one of the
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elite wide receivers. When healthy.
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Waddell is a guy that could be a number one in this league and be
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a top five, top ten type of wide receiver #2A Chan is a great
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running back, one of the fastest running backs in the league, and
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he has become an elite running back in this league.
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And #3 the fans, no matter how bad this team is, just like the
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Jet fans, they show up week in and week out and cheer for their
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teams. It, it doesn't matter where it
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is. The Dolphin fans are always
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there cheering for their teams. And Mike McDaniel to me is not
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the problem. He's never been the problem.
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It's just the organization as a whole, ownership does not know
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what he what they're doing. And again, where they're moving
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and where they should be moving is in a spot where they're
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building around a draft building, around youth, building
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around the future. And to attack a Viola, he should
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be angry. You know why you should be
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angry? Because he should be angry on
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why the Miami Dolphins even gave him that contract, because was
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he worth the money? I do.
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I I do believe that too. For two years was an elite
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quarterback in his league. He was back and forth.
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He he threw a lot of touchdowns. He got this team in the playoffs
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a couple of times. It's not like he wasn't a decent
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quarterback, but was he worth the money that they paid him?
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It was $190 million, if I'm not mistaken.
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I don't know. It was 53,000,000 a year and
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then they had an injury clause mixed into it because of
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obviously how much he gets hurt. So he pretty much robbed the
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Miami Dolphins. Now anybody in, and I know
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Jabba's going to say the same thing.
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Jabba will come in and out of the scope and say the same
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friggin thing. You can't knock a player on the
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money he's making. You can't knock a player because
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he's making that kind of money because the organization decided
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to go that route. I will knock the organization
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because they've done wrong by the organization on putting this
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kid in a position to not succeed.
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The offensive line. How bad has the offensive line
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been this year? Speedy Really bad.
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It's been really, really bad. It's been one of the worst
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offensive lines in the. League and yeah, it was better
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than last year. And then if you look at it, you
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have a guy that has concussion problems, and every single time
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he looks one way and looks the other, there's somebody coming
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from a blitz or a package where he's got to either go down or
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run for dear life or throw the ball away.
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And he doesn't even run anymore. Because if he does, he's going
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to be knocked the hell out. We've seen it enough.
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I remember what was it 2 years ago when he got clothesline or
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got ran into where his whole body went stiff in the middle of
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a football field. I've never seen anything like
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that before. It's scary when you watch
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something like that. It's scary.
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And to think that this is an organization that has done every
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single thing wrong for the players that they have, there is
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an understatement. Because they overpaid.
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Tyree Kill Tyree kill whole held the organization up for ransom
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because he wanted to get as much money as he possibly can for him
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from them. And then all of a sudden after
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the fact said, hey, you know what, I might not even finish my
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contract. I might play another two years
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at the age of 30, I might retire.
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I mean, it seems like every single player that decides to go
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and play in Miami. Does something stupid that makes
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you shake your head or wonders or gives you the thought in your
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mind that this organization really does not know Speedy what
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they're doing? Now, it's weird because I think
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they've been a little better than they have been in previous
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years where it seemed like they were only getting these old
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players coming in. The Dolphins seemed like a
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retirement home for a lot of these just flashy names for a
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while. And then all of a sudden they
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they started with Mike McDaniel kind of getting younger all at
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once. They made the trade for Hill.
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He was the one veteran guy, but even when they traded for him,
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he was still 27 at the time. Like he was still young long
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enough where he was in his peak. And it seemed like for a while
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they were at least growing to something else where they're not
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like you're like you said, the worst run organization yet
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they're still probably a bottom 10 run organization because of
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that. Now, we've had different guests
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on the show that have mentioned that they treat the players very
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well. The facilities are very good.
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But then what does that matter if 2 was keep getting hurt like
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that? And I think the one you were
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mentioning last year too was the one where DeMar Hamlin
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completely whacked him at the at in the red zone.
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And that I blamed him at the time because that was
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self-inflicted. And I think the instincts are
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the instincts are not there for somebody like him at this point.
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And you wonder if that's gotten to his head at some point where
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he's making mistakes now. He was never this interception
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prone ever. Like he wasn't great on the run.
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He would doesn't he never had this huge, huge arm even though
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his deep accuracy metrics are very good.
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And I think that's something that's gotten him more than
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expected because they still move the ball very well.
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Tua still has a decent amount of passing.
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You're not amazing amount of passing yards, but you can only
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go so far without Tyree kill in the lineup.
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And Jalen Waddle's been just really streaky the last two
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years since he signed his contract.
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Eight chance been very good and the defense ever since the
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beginning of the seasons looked better, but they did the same
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thing last year and didn't get him anywhere.
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So you're right, they're A-Team that's kind of stuck in a very
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weird mediocrity. They're going to have to be
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stuck with the contract. I don't think it's worth buying
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him out at this point. I don't think when you or is
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unless he shows Flash is going to be much of anything right
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now. And even if he does then just OK
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you haven't want to. Work.
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Yours was going to be a top first round draft pick up one
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point of his career. And then things just fell apart
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for him and he had a bad season and Texas and the Longhorns were
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not playing at the top of their game.
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And yours kind of fell out of the first round and then fell
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what, to the third or fourth round?
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He went from possibly a top 30 pick all the way to what what
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was he drafted? Yours was.
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Seventh round. Seventh round.
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So I, I, he was expected. Honestly, he fell even further
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there. He was expected to be a fourth
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round pick and he fell all the way to the seventh round.
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Now, I don't know what yours is going to be.
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Maybe they find lightning in a bottle.
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I, I don't know what he's going to be.
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What I do know is this is again going to be another offseason
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where the organization is going to wonder, do they go into the
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draft next year? Do they move up to go after a
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Fernando Mendoza? What do they have to give up to
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move up to #1 with the New York Giants or even Vegas if Vegas
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willing to trade that, which you're probably not.
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If Vegas lose out, loses out their games and loses against
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the Giants, because I think that's the only game the Vegas
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Raiders have a chance of winning in the next three weeks.
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If they win that game, they knock themselves out of the top
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five. If they if they lose that game,
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they have a chance to be the number one pick because then the
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giants fall out of it and fall all the way to six or five in in
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this draft list of tankathon team.
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So I, I mean, you look at the AFC East right now and is Miami
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the worst team in the AFC East? No, The Jets are so are the
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giant are the are the Giants are my is Miami done that bad this
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year where you could just part ways with Tua, Tiger, Viola.
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Now when you look at his numbers, you would say yes, 15
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interceptions and he leads the league in 15 interceptions.
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He's thrown more interceptions than touchdowns.
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That is alarming. And then you'll hear what Tua
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said after the Pittsburgh Steelers game and what Aaron
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Rodgers told him and say keep your head up, keep working.
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You still have a chance to be a good quarterback in this league.
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But does he really have a good chance of being a good
23:52
quarterback in his league? How old is Tua now?
23:54
He's at 2828 years old. What team is going to give him a
23:58
chance? You've seen Russell Wilson.
23:59
Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl, he was up for a couple of times
24:04
for an MVP candidate and he was one of the elite quarterbacks in
24:07
the league for at least three or four years.
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Has two ever been elite quarterback in his league?
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He was never a top five quarterback.
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He was. He was top ten.
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I think the 2023 season, I think that was the Dolphins biggest
24:18
peak and what do they do that year?
24:20
They collapsed the division away when they had like a three-game
24:22
lead on the Bills late in the season and I think they really
24:25
haven't recovered since then, both structurally and again with
24:27
two as injuries. I think that when you look at
24:29
the organization as a whole and you look at Miami as a whole,
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where do they believe they should go in the offseason now 2
24:37
is gone. They're going to do whatever
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they can. They'll probably wait until June
24:41
1st. They'll let it.
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They'll they'll probably let him go.
24:44
He'll go to free agency and they'll be a team.
24:46
They'll be a team that is looking for a veteran
24:48
quarterback that is going to start the year looking for a guy
24:52
to start over a rookie that they draft.
24:53
Maybe The Jets, I could see The Jets doing that.
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Maybe that's. A spot for the Vikings.
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The Vikings are are another team.
24:59
They're looking for somebody to challenge a JJ McCarthy, who's
25:02
had a very bad season as a rookie.
25:04
Somebody out there is going to be looking for a veteran
25:06
quarterback and is going to be willing to bring him in to
25:10
figure out how about this, if Cincinnati decides to trade Joe
25:13
Burrow, do the Cincinnati Bengals bring in a guy like to
25:18
attack a Viola to sit for a year and figure out if he's the guy
25:22
for the next two or three years Cuz they have TT Higgins under
25:25
contract and and Jamar Chase. They're going to need a veteran
25:29
quarterback that's going to get him the ball.
25:31
Because even if Cincinnati decides, if they move Joe Burrow
25:35
and and again, they'll be teams giving them at least two first
25:38
round draft picks for two Joe Burrow and he they're going to
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1A top ten pick because there's Simpson, there's going to be a
25:44
quarterback. Maybe they go after a
25:45
quarterback in the second round because they're saying Beck
25:47
could fall to the second round. Now that seller is going back to
25:50
college. Maybe Beck is a late first round
25:53
draft pick. So maybe they trade down or
25:56
whatever they do to to bring in a Beck who might be going for
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making a run for a national championship.
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I don't know where they go. What I do know right now is
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Miami is parting ways with Tua. No, Zach Wilson being upset, I
26:10
could care less. I mean, this guy was a top three
26:15
pick. He felled as a New York Jet.
26:18
If he really was going to win the job at any point this year,
26:20
he would have proven himself and he would have taken that job for
26:23
Tua. He couldn't have been as bad as
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Tua. Maybe.
26:26
Well, Kenny, I don't know, I've seen him, I've seen him bad with
26:29
the New York Jets. So I don't know how bad Zach
26:32
Wilson would have played with the elite wide receiving core
26:35
that they had before Tyree kill went down and and a chant is not
26:38
too shabby either. He's a guy that can catch the
26:40
ball in the backfield and make plays in the open field.
26:42
So they've got weapons. It's not like Miami can't
26:46
compete and and don't have a speedy type of offense that can
26:49
get the ball in the end zone. What worries me is I don't know
26:54
if this organization is capable of picking the right guy or
26:57
making the right decisions to decide on what this organization
27:02
should do in the future. Because the quarterback position
27:05
we've known as as football fans is the most important position
27:09
in sports. And if you don't have the right
27:11
guy in position to succeed, you don't have anything.
27:15
And we've seen that with The Jets.
27:16
The Jets haven't had a starting quarterback in 50 years.
27:19
And I don't want to hear about Mark Sanchez because as good as
27:22
Mark Sanchez was in some parts of his career, he wasn't an
27:26
elite quarterback. He had an elite defense.
27:28
He had an elite running game. And that's why they were where
27:31
they were. That's why they went to
27:32
back-to-back AFC title games. Mark Sanchez was not good
27:35
because the only time you can remember or even pick out what
27:39
Mark Sanchez did in the league, you forget about what he did in
27:42
the AFC title games or you forget about him getting to the
27:45
getting The Jets in the AFC title game.
27:47
What you do remember Mark Sanchez doing is the butt
27:50
fumble. That's what you remember.
27:52
So and, and, and a lot of jet quarterbacks are known to do
27:54
stupid things. AK Sam Darnold.
27:56
What do you remember what Sam Darnold did as a Jet as a Jet
28:00
player? Well, when he went to New
28:02
England on Thursday Night Football, he created after the
28:04
game, he created his own ghosts. So it seems like Jet
28:08
quarterbacks and Miami quarterbacks just can't get over
28:12
the hump. And it seems like they they
28:14
flash different quarterbacks. Think about it.
28:17
Chad Pennington was a New York Jet quarterback, and guess what?
28:20
He was a Miami Dolphins quarterback.
28:23
Ryan Fitzpatrick, I think at one point was a Miami Dolphins
28:26
quarterback. Very briefly with with two of
28:28
their they kept remember Brian Flores kept benching the two of
28:31
them and they interchanged them pretty.
28:32
And the New York Jets had Ryan Fitzpatrick and Ryan Fitzpatrick
28:35
had one of his best years with the New York Jets were Brandon
28:38
Marshall and Eric Decker. We could go on.
28:40
Now they have Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson was one of The Jets
28:44
draft picks a couple of years ago.
28:46
Top three pick failed as a New York Jet.
28:48
Well, then he went to the Broncos for a short stint and
28:51
now he is the backup quarterback for Tua and now quitting yours.
28:55
So I just there is if you look at The Jets and you look at
28:59
Miami, they're very alike. They share different players
29:03
over the years and they're at and to me, they're they're
29:05
trying to find lightning in a bottle at the quarterback
29:08
position. It just it's not easy to find
29:10
guys. It's not easy to find a starting
29:13
quarterback. It's not easy to find an elite
29:15
quarterback in this league. And it just, to me, it's an
29:17
embarrassment to the organization to try to reach on
29:20
this, to try to figure out why this organization hasn't made
29:24
the right choices. Why this organization has done
29:27
stupid things on and off the field.
29:29
Why this organization has figured to think that
29:33
quarterback play is not important, and why quarterback
29:37
play has not been successful in Miami.
29:39
And the only time I can remember that they had a quarterback
29:43
that's competent to make every single throw was what, in the
29:47
1980s and 90s with Dan Marino. And by the way, only played one
29:53
Super Bowl game and never won a Super Bowl.
29:56
So this is an organization that can't get out of the hump, just
29:59
like the New York Jets. As a matter of fact, when we can
30:02
remember when the this Miami Dolphins team actually won a
30:06
Super Bowl? When was the last time they won
30:07
a Super? Bowl.
30:08
Was it 73? 1973 and when was the last time
30:10
The Jets won a Super Bowl? 19691969 So they're not far
30:14
fetched, they're not far apart from each other and each
30:17
organization. And what a what a Kowinky dink
30:20
that they're both in the same division and in the same
30:23
conference failures. So I, I to me, you know when a
30:28
Jet fan says, well look at those Miami Dolphins fans.
30:31
Hey, here's another Kowinky dink about both organization.
30:34
They both wear green. They're both we're wear green.
30:38
The Jets are green and white and the dolphins are green, white
30:44
and orange. So it, it, to me, it's just,
30:48
it's so it's so appealing if you're a, if you're a Jets fan
30:54
and you're a Miami Dolphins fan and you're trying to appear to
30:58
think that both organizations know what they're doing.
31:01
And you realize that both organizations, no matter how
31:05
many wins they bring in every single year, no matter how many
31:08
chances they have to make the playoffs or how many
31:11
quarterbacks they share, they never get over the hump.
31:15
Yeah, and there was a stat to like tracking.
31:17
Like how many coaches a lot of these dysfunctional teams have
31:20
hired in the 21st century? I think the readers were first
31:23
in that department, watched it was second, and then The Jets
31:25
were up there too. Miami, I think was top three in
31:27
terms of different starting quarterbacks since Marino
31:30
retired, all the way behind Washington as well.
31:32
And we interviewed one of them a while back and Jay Fiedler, and
31:35
there was a bunch of others after that.
31:36
You mentioned Chad Pennington, and it seems like they're just
31:38
either settling for veterans or they just have a couple random
31:41
good years like Ryan Tannehill. Ryan Tannehill, when Adam Gase
31:44
was the first hired there in 2016, had a good year, but it
31:46
wasn't last thing after that. Then he rebirth himself with the
31:48
Titans and then all of a sudden now you look at 22 very good
31:52
years in 2022 and 2023, but really hasn't found that kind of
31:56
form again. And with that contract now, can
31:59
you trust it where they can hold on to it and be able to find
32:01
that contract to get that level going?
32:04
Because their defense is very far behind right now.
32:06
So they're going to if they're going to get anywhere
32:08
successfully wise. That's why I agree with you.
32:09
They should keep McDaniel. No matter if they hire, they're
32:12
going to hire a new GM. They've already fired their GM,
32:14
which I think was a big reason their organization never grow.
32:16
They can't draft offensive line, they can't draft defense, and
32:19
they were able to build around their great offensive skill
32:21
players that they have. And they're kind of just stuck
32:23
in the middle. They're not terribly run like
32:25
the Browns or the Raiders or a team like that that's three and
32:27
14 every year, but they're still kind of stuck in mediocrity and
32:31
they have the longest drought right now of winning a playoff
32:33
game. And it worries you.
32:35
It worries you if if you're a Miami Dolphins fan.
32:38
Because again, going back in the past and now looking towards the
32:42
future, is there a future for this organization until they
32:45
figure out who their quarterbacks going to be for the
32:47
next 10 years? And, and we can go on and on and
32:50
on of teams. Look at the Giants.
32:53
Look what the Giants are dealing with right now.
32:55
Just think about it. Look how many quarterbacks.
32:57
Look how many coaches, look how many GM's they have gone through
33:00
in the last 15 years since Tom Coughlin has been gone.
33:04
And they had one of the greatest coaches of New York Giants
33:07
history and one of the greatest quarterbacks in a big game gone.
33:13
And I remember when Giant fans said good riddance to Eli
33:16
Manning, good riddance to Tom Coughlin.
33:20
And now you realize there's excuses now for all the Giants
33:24
organic, you know, all the Giant fans on why the Giants shouldn't
33:28
have parted ways with Tom Kaufman.
33:29
Why did the Giants decide to part ways with Eli?
33:33
And Eli might have played an extra two or three more years if
33:36
the Giants didn't screw that up and Ben McAdoo decide to start
33:40
Geno Smith over him. It pissed Eli off and it made
33:44
Eli realize that the time was almost gone for him and Eli
33:48
could have went to another organization he didn't want to
33:50
his family. He grew his family in New
33:53
Jersey. His whole life was in New
33:55
Jersey. He was never going to play for
33:57
another organization. It took a lot for Peyton Manning
34:00
to jump from Indianapolis to Denver and the only reason why
34:04
he did that was John Elway. Him and John Elway had a great
34:07
relationship and he and and Peyton Manning believed that he
34:10
had a couple more years left to win another championship and to
34:14
be an elite quarterback in the league.
34:15
And he was at that time and people forget the steroid thing
34:19
came out that he was doing, you know, some kind of advanced
34:24
drugs that to help him get healthy and help his neck.
34:27
What did they, they, they enhanced drug, I don't know if
34:30
it was, I don't know what it was, but it wasn't, it wasn't
34:33
steroids, but I guess it was HGH.
34:35
And that was a story and people forgot about that because it's
34:39
Peyton Manning. But nobody, nobody brings up
34:41
that Peyton Manning was doing human growth hormones, No, that
34:46
he was cheating. No, they all did that after he
34:48
retired. Because no, they don't even talk
34:50
about it anymore. People don't even mention that
34:53
Peyton Manning was on steroids or whatever.
34:56
HDHI guess it's a human growth hormone.
34:59
So it is cheating in their own way.
35:03
But I I think that when you look at The Jets and you look at
35:07
Miami, it's they've always made the wrong mistakes.
35:10
They bring in these veteran guys and these veteran guys are not
35:14
the same players they were when they were playing as a young
35:18
player with the other organizations that drafted them.
35:21
Miami's done it many, many times too.
35:24
You go back and you look at some of the veteran players they
35:26
brought in year in and year out. It's it's failed if they've been
35:29
a failure. So what I would say in the
35:32
offseason is you wait until June 1st, you let to a go and then
35:37
you decide do you draft this year?
35:39
Do you wait until next year where you have Arch Manning, you
35:42
have a better class of quarterback cello be in next
35:44
year's class where you wait until next year.
35:47
You're not going to be an elite team.
35:48
Maybe McDaniel, you give McDaniel one more year to do to
35:52
do something with nothing. And if you can win six or seven
35:55
games, you keep McDaniel, let McDaniel draft his quarterback
35:58
next year. And you ride, ride or die with
36:00
McDaniel because you don't want to keep firing coaches and
36:03
bringing in new coaches. It never works.
36:06
Look at all these other teams that were winning organizations.
36:10
Tomlin, could you imagine what the Steelers are going to have
36:12
to deal with in the future if Mike Tomlin and the Steelers
36:15
decide to part ways in the offseason?
36:17
They've had the same coaches for like 30 something years and now
36:22
you part ways with Tomlin, Coward's gone and then they
36:25
bring in another guy and this is this is the same thing that
36:28
happened to the Giants. They had Bill Parcells and they
36:30
had Tom Coughlin. After that, everything was just
36:33
like it backfired at the the Giants organization.
36:36
You bring in Ben McAdoo to be his offensive coordinator.
36:39
Tom Coughlin didn't want him there.
36:40
Ben McAdoo took over for the team, had one Goodyear.
36:43
He was fired after that and and so on and so on and so on.
36:47
You do not want to continuously keep doing this to an
36:51
organization that has been an absolute failure.
36:53
So I if if I'm a Dolphins fan, I'm figuring out what this team
37:00
is doing and how this team is going to move mute how this team
37:04
is going to move towards their future and make better decisions
37:09
that they haven't made over the last 25 years since Dan Marino's
37:13
been gone. That's it for our show.
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Joining us at 8:45. Jabba, you might have watched
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37:51
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37:54
Braves from 2015 to 19 and also was with the Cubs for a little
37:57
bit as well. All right, so there you go,
37:59
Daniel Winkler. And so that's it.
38:02
I want to give a shout out to Fish.
38:03
I hope everything is OK with him and his dog, him and his wife.
38:07
My heart go. Where are all our heart?
38:09
Let's go out to him and his family and hopefully his dog is
38:11
okay and Jarrett, we love you and stay in touch man, we really
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