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Keyforge Confessions I am a Lapsed Player · Archons Corner

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  Hi, this is Luke Olsen from Ghost Galaxy, and you're listening to our
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  const what's going on? Everybody? I am the one, the only,
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  the w oh okay I e we have a smaller than normal group today we've
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  lost two members. I'm tired. This boat is sinking. But today we
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  have the backer of Nope, doctor sheet. Yes I am not a backer.
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  We got big d a. You don't get a special intro, okay,
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  and we got the choke show dress. I see that's that's a very
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  special I feel it. I feel the warmness from the you know, cockles
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  of your heart, from my loins or something something. Maybe we shouldn't say
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  that, but a lot to go over again because it's game found and that's
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  the thing that's going on. And then we'll run into this weird you know
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  bee booleep boop thing where we don't have anything to tell you whatsoever. So
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  we're gonna start this week out. We don't really have a y suck a
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  key Forge moment. You sucked a lot and you don't want to admit it.
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  Well, okay, so I sucked this week at KeyForge because I brought
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  a knife to a gunfight. Yeah, I brought two B plus decks to
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  go up against a minus decks. Who do you think one key forge friends?
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  Not the person playing the Dark Hidings deck? Oh were you before recording?
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  He was just mocking, here's how to waste thirteen dollars. Yep,
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  get an add on DT deck from the guy who brought a d D deck
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  night. They did, and y'all almost lost to it. So who's the
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  sucker's there against our B minus decks B minus My behind B minus. You
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  have a minus decks. My deck was a nothing. It's what it's an
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  A minus. So your DT that you thought was gonna be so powerful it
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  was, it's rose. It's a double machabuoy deck that has a ton of
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  recursion that I played pretty well with. And I decided to have a double
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  double double forgive forget, I think twice double healer harm. It's got some
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  good stuff in it. Okay, what he does play it better than I
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  do. I did try to play it when I had to play a Dark
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  Tidies deck and afpl or something yeah, and contad that burn all but five
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  Amber thing and Sanctum Doorstep to Heaven. Yeah that I play. Yeah,
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  it's terrible. It's an abysmal thing. I liked it. It takes longer
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  than you'd care to win the game. Yep, I'm getting maximum key Forde
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  time with friends. Okay, maybe you should take that one to Oh gosh.
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  I told him to play it because he's like, you should take it
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  to KFC and I'm like, no, I could never mind. I was
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  going to put an analogy in there that ewok would not like, and I'm
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  gonna save it for myself. So, friends, if you're going to key
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  Forde other friends that are also playing high power decks, maybe better match their
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  power levels. I feel like we need a power ranking system. Didn't we
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  used to have one of those, what like SaaS or even better draw better
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  draw better drop better dot cards? Uh huh? You know an alpha rating?
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  You know some some cheap elf doesn't give us cast members very many free
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  alpha ratings. Have you? Have you used all yours? I don't think
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  I've used that any one. I haven't used any whatsoever. I mean you
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  have access to the alpha Oh yeah, it says only have one. Oh
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  man, use it sparingly. Why you have that many? Yeah? I
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  don't even have one deck. I'd like to get alpha scored to be honest
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  with you. All right, I am headed over to draw Better DOT cards
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  with the deck that I played you with. Should I tell you what my
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  draw better score with that card is. It's DT. It doesn't get scored.
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  It just gets a zero. No, it got a score. It's
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  because it has cards that are another set, so it has it's it's not
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  a good one, but it You found a glitch in the code that it
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  actually scores. Yea at some point had a moment of weakness and he put
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  in scores for d T. All right, so what is your what is
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  your draw better DOC cards score? It's higher than one hundred? Okay,
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  so is mine? Okay? The second number is not a two, neither
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  is mine? Okay? Mine is a one one. Mine's a one one
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  o one one is not terrible in the system. This is the deck that
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  relatively, you know, relatively up there, want to play in the sealed
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  tournament part of Minneapolis, but was missing the Revenue Star song. But then
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  a lovely key forger found the Revenue Star song, put it on Facebook,
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  and I acquired my revenut back. I thought you were choking when I saw
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  when I saw that post of the Revenue Star song. I was gonna tag
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  you and it be like is this yours? And then You're like, hey,
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  that's mine and I was like, oh, it's not funny anymore.
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  It was mine and so together. So actually funny story speaking of of losing
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  cards. So I totally got contacted by just this. He's like, hey,
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  I've got your revenant monk for some deck and I was like, uh,
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  I was trying to get rid of that card. Thanks for bringing it
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  up. Did you get it back? So I said, I was gonna.
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  I was like, let me look through your by list that I'll buy
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  a fun deck from you and you could just send it with that instead of
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  whatever. And uh, then I've forgotten to this moment, So I should
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  go do that. Yeah, probably should, but yeah, so yeah,
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  you you outclassed me by about seventeen points. I think I'm higher sass than
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  you. Two more than likely, aren't you. Eighty two used to be
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  an eighty two, it's now a seventies and it's now a seventy seven.
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  Oh man, yep, how the mighty have fallen? Maybe maybe you need
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  to put that deck back in the It was almost good enough almost. I
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  did suggest in our private chat that maybe we add to the y sucker Key
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  Forge master list. I played DT, but they didn't. They didn't want
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  to, they didn't want to take it. I was busy today. Sorry.
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  Although somehow I have an aoa deck that scored a one to twelve.
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  I'm not sure how ze let that happen. I mean there are Yeah,
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  a couple of them are named paying like a couple of burning my Panzel one
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  seventeen. Mine is Xerxes is a one twelve. Interestingly enough, interestingly enough,
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  Opiiett does a lot of work against does a lot of work against prospectors.
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  But I digress. It's time to move into another new segment we're doing
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  this week. Boy, we're running out of new segments to do, and
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  we're missing our we're missing our walk. We're gonna call this one what's up
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  with LP? With doctor segment? Yeah, doctor ship, what's up with
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  LP? They copy and pasted twenty twenty two's announcement to twenty twenty three.
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  Oh, next year you will have door championships and regionals and nationals and vault
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  Tours and worlds. Maybe, well, remember if my they said it's gonna
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  happen, if this is different, because it's on paper or last year it
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  was just a bunch of phone shots that we all had of a screen and
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  you know the owner of the company in front of it. This year,
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  it's on like a website that we can read and look at. Well,
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  so the real answers on that is one, there is now a Josh who
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  is actually there to do opie work instead of what was a journey who was
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  not hired to do opie work and then had to try to do all the
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  opie work and it was a total damn disaster. So there is actually an
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  OP person working on that stuff. When you know that the OP person is
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  not working on the game found else. Oh and then and then they,
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  uh, if you listen to the Michael Hurley in her view, they plan
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  to contact the stores that back the game found directly. I do not get
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  why they did not provide details on that in the game Found like, this
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  is what this backing is actually gonnatail. Instead it says you'll be able to
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  buy some stuff. Well, okay, but apparently, like we hear rumors,
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  they're actually like they're gonna make They're gonna make Josh call all these stores
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  and be like, what do I need to do to make OP reel there.
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  Listen, it's not gonna be Josh. It's gonna be Janet. Okay,
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  number one, Janet will be makings. Didn't We actually just figure out
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  last time that Janet is really just Jeremy doing Janet's voice. What we might
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  have made all of this up. No, Janet's real. She's real.
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  Okay, definitely, she's definitely real. It's not just Jeremy. Go on,
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  do any things? All right, Well, I killed that joke anyways,
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  moving forward, that joke's Dad, Dad. Just we're gonna put that
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  one in the corner for later use. Well, that's all right. Your
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  walk bot is here now so he can be pissing. Yeah, that was
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  a decent Wookie impression. But he walked does it better? He walk does?
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  Does do he does do me better than me? Yeah, weird.
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  So again, so that's what's going on with Op. It'll happen in twenty
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  twenty four. But again, if if our discord swear, if our discord
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  has taught you anything, you should never believe what you're told by the by
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  the higher ups in a company. Take it with a grain of sauce,
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  or us definitely not. We make things up. Yeah, we made a
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  lot of things up, but if you read it on their official Game Found
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  page, take it with a grain of salt. Now, No, the
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  Game Found was has always been fairly honest, and everything that they screwed up
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  on the last one they admitted to screwing up. I don't see any reason
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  we wouldn't expect. I mean, they may not have made satisfactory reparations,
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  but they've admitted that they dropped the ball in many places. Fair. So
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  again, it's time for another news segment. We're adding to this call that
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  I'm gonna call won't you be my neighbor? It is time for a moment
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  of positivity with Ewok Junior. Hello, Key Forge family. Glad to be
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  here, just jumping in after some conferences, So send some love to your
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  teachers. This segment actually came to me first after thinking about something that Southerly
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  had said last week. And there is still a lot of great news that
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  is in Key Forge, things that are happening from community members and from Gigi,
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  and so I want to take this moment to be able to highlight just
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  a few of them, and so one quick little piece, but so otherly,
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  since this is your idea. I want to turn this over to you,
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  man, what really stood out to you last week when we were thinking
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  about something that was positive that's happening in the community, because it was really
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  cool. Yeah, So one positive thing that stood out to me was that
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  the NKFL league grew from this past season to this season by about eighty members,
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  which is you know, I went from one hundred and fifty to like
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  maxing out at two hundred and twenty four and we might actually see two more
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  divisions get added depending on how the sign ups go, which is insane that
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  there's this much growth in the community. And of that, I believe it
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  was about sixty seven new players and the rest we're returning. I played in
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  the league before and are coming back to it. But as much as there's
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  a bit of a lull and in person play, seeing that the community online
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  is growing, and honestly, if we look at our vts and how much
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  we've had for attendance, being able to push that one hundred and twenty five
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  is a big deal. So just to be able to see eighty as a
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  new new number to be coming into NKFL is absolutely amazing. So shout out
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  to everyone who's involved with that process. I think the heck said format's really
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  cool, something definitely to look at further and so give a huge shot out
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  there. I think it's a great positive site for our key fortumunity. So
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  great job, keep it up. Won't you be my neighbor? Well,
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  would you be my neighbor? Hi neighbor, Hi, key forge neighbor.
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  All right, that was beautiful enough for that garbage time to trash gg.
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  Let's do this all right. I'll just say it is pretty awesome to see
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  the NKFL is rocking that many players. That's that's great see and you know,
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  it's it's another thing where it's like, you know, it is great
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  to see. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dog on it. But again,
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  this is another thing that was not created by GIG. This is all
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  community driven, community driven. But again that's the foundation and the pillar of
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  arts that I right now, we just need that support coming from GIG,
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  but it's it is something in our game that is amazing and we want to
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  be able to spotlight that because there there are people who have held this game
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  up and champion this cause for quite a while from you know, you see
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  NKFL that's great. You see kpel was another one, like people have put
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  in vault what was it our vault? Uh? Jokers keep thank you gollkeepers.
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  Sorry, I literally went and did straight conferences. I did not have
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  a break today from eight o'clock this morning until seven fifty tonight. So I
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  apologie on the brain being a little bit out. But like, these people
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  have given their time, their money, resources that are online from our cana
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  to even decks of key forge like, cause, these are amazing resources and
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  assets and I appreciate people putting into our community. So yeah, Gigi,
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  we have something to be able to look at. But they have a great
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  foundation to build off of, and I'm excited to see what twenty twenty four
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  will bring. Well, I can tell you one thing twenty twenty four will
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  bring, and that's menagerie decks. Who wants to take three whatever? Who
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  wants to take over this dumpster fire? Well most of them will be released
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  in twenty twenty four. You're anchoring, You're anchoring there, dumps improved dumpster
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  fire. Oh I'm sorry, it's a tighty What is a menagerie? Let's
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  go there, friends and refocus on that. Tell me this new term menagerie.
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  All right, So menagerie decks are the latest crazy idea to emerge from
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  the key Forge development team's secret lab. They share a few basics ideas with
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  unchain decks we'll get back to that later, which were introduced last year during
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  the Winds of Exchange campaign. Both types of decks can feature any house that
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  has ever appeared in the game, and are not legal in official tournaments.
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  But this is where the similarities end. Wait, would you just say they
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  are not just last they are not legal, not legal, not like oh
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  no, oh no, no, no. You can go do your sit
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  ups while we talk about on chain decks. Do SUPs? Yes, I'm
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  not doing any damn we know. Anyways, blow listen, I'm it's a
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  chippy day. This is just where we're at today, right. So what's
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  nice about this is it does feel into people who are not competitive. It's
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  your casual player and there's something that's there. So this podcast, what is
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  this guess about? Oh? Yes, bitching, that's what we're getting the
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  complaining. Yes, that's yes, Okay, you're right. Your mic is
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  a little hot. I don't know if you turned up your volume or not,
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  but it is a little little hot who jere. He's very excited.
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  He's probably trying to. I mean I really embrace it today, like for
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  exactly one day, and then like I brought it back to the local because
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  like I'm the one that supports our local. I provide all the product pretty
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  much all the time, and we're like, let's do it unchained week,
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  and like no one gave a ship, Like no one cares about this thing.
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  Like I I wanted it to be a bigger of a thing. But
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  as soon as you tell watch anybody that it can't be used in anything that
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  matters, they're like, why do we care your kitchen table? Yeah,
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  that's a casual player, they but is it. I can't find casual players
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  that like it either. Like I don't understand that statement, because you've destroyed
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  all your casual players. You've turned them into That's true. Zach used to
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  be a nice person. Now he's mean, yeah, like Wookie's the most
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  casual one we got, Wookie, do you lack unchained? No? Okay,
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  look, he's not the person for us to be able to ask on
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  that one. I don't know anymore. I mean, I'm only casual because
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  I don't have a deck. Let's be real. Oh so that's ninety percent
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  of us out there. Awesome, Wait, welcome to the group. Man.
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  I was never gonna have a deck. I mean, I'm you know,
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  we're rocking a nap man grab a paddle. It is not for a
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  lack of trying. But that is life, man. But anyways, let's
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  continue with that. Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sheep over, there
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  was was there that you wanted to go ahead and elaborate on? You're too
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  picky for your own Damn good there I saw not alone. So the locals
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  that I deal with you, I don't want to spend thirty six hundred dollars
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  on a deck. You don't have to spend thirty six hundred dollars on a
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  deck, but you better be ready to crack a thousand. It only costs
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  thirteen retail Yeah, hey better luck, Hey draw better. But key Forge
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  Managerie decks provide their own unique key Forge experience. Every key Forage Menagerie deck
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  includes at least one of more than fifty different Menagerie packets. It's also possible
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  for a deck to feature a for different menagerie packets. So what's a menagerie
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  packet. Uh, not unique, It's a combo put back into decks.
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  Well, I'm glad you ask cheap, because each Menagerie packet is a group
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  of specific cards chosen from the entirety of KeyForge card pool. Each packet has
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  a name and a theme designed to give a deck a special fuel or identity
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  that is in the past was very either very unlikely or potentially impossible. There
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  are many different types of Menagerie packets, and we'll touch on just a few
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  of them. Now. First, there's the massive creature packet. Frost,
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  Giant, Tangaika, and Ultra Gravitan are just a few of the possible examples.
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  Each of these big bodies comes with its own set of companion cards.
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  Who is searching for tan like? What the I don't know. But there
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  are also creature group packets horsemen such as the Four Horsemen, the Seven Sins
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  or I hate that word has tattos. Okay, now that's the real question.
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  Who is looking for this rap? I just cracked making these packets.
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  Guys, Buckle up, get ready for some plague, rats and some shards.
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  I actually I would like to see play rats overs raptors. I will
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  say that, but if that's who you're making these power combos, Like we
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  got some pro guys. I did win a reversal game with the Raptor deck,
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  so that's what's gonna be like cooperative hunting plus save the pack. But
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  can you imagine like I just pulled my first seven cents deck and I can't
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  play it fun and fun there are that There are combo packets. You might
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  see Dark Amber Vault group with multiple random mutant creatures, Epic Quest paired with
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  round table and many random nights, or key Frog paired with ways to destroy
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  it on your own turn. Finally, we've also created a number of thematic
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  packs that include thematically linked cards with names like Bramnar Weapons, Getleheart's Legacy,
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  and which coven? Oh the name is going to have the name? And
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  then they have those in there. I think, so, Wookie, your
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  snarcasm. I need to bring you into my classroom like it was sarcasm either
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  this situation more I like Smortes. But wait, there's more. All the
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  above is just a brief glimpse of the funhouse of madness that Key Forge Menagerie
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  decks have to offer. Of course, we can't guarantee these decks will feel
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  competitive compared to a regular Keyfoarde deck, but they'll be entertaining. We recommend
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  Menagerie decks be played against other Menagerie decks for maximum fun. Every key Forge
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  Menagerie deck will include a list of the Menagerie packets included. The rest of
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  the card slots in the deck are filled in by the deck generation software following
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  normal card rarity rules the Menagerie. The Menagerie will play their wacky games with
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  players for the first time at the upcoming Keyboard celebrations this November. Can't wait
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  for the crazy fun to begin, all right, I'm gonna go be the
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  Menagerie Champion and then never played it. Nobody cares, Yeah, and no
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  one will care. It is strict total but holes, Oh, I think
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  show me my silver lining sheet. Like my question here is like, has
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  anyone ever actually seen or open an unchained deck that they think would even make
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  it? Today? Too? In ark on, like why would it matter
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  if they're legal or not? Well, because I don't know if the rest
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  it's good, But there is an eight routine jobs deck out there that just
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  seems fun. Yeah, that's fine. I still a single unchained deck that
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  I would give a crap against any of my top markround decks. Like it's
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  just even this and this sounds worse than unchained was as far as like actually
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  generating the decks that will win. So I think it's strictly better than unchained
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  personally because unchained did have a power level issue where you just have a bunch
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  of decks at some decks would just do absolutely nothing at all. Right,
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  so when you do all the chain decks, have like a house that is
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  absolutely nothing because no, not all of them, all of them. Do
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  you have well menagerie guarantees that you have one that does something that's plus get
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  some wrappers. Yeah, so we're gonna play Alliance Menagerie. Okay, So
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  I just think you're undervaluing of how many linked cars are really bad competitively,
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  like they're just not good. I get what you're saying, but this,
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  this is casual, This is dearly for casual play. Well yeah, my
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  whole point was why not make them tournament legal because they're gonna suck anyway?
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  Oh well they did, I mean they buried the lead. Right, So
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  the final picture shows Jenka Yeah uh and it shows Yeah, there's a whole
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  that's Jacob. You know where that set ranks basically last because I don't even
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  get stir dt in the ranking. So that's where the redheaded stepchild of Cuba.
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  It's unranked. It's like the college football rankings. It doesn't get your
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  ranking, it falls off the chart. So boys, we're going to worlds
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  right or most of us. I was super excited for this too. I
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  was so excited for some new awesome format of like some type something that you
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  know here, here's the same tombo key forge. My question was, is
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  this I'm gonna be I'm gonna be hang out for this one? Is this
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  shrutter worthy, shredder worthy misers But there will be people who will but there
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  will be people who won't be able to get it. So they found right
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  now and they shouldn't they There are people who enjoyed unchained. This happens to
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  not be the cast for it. We don't derive a lot of value across
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  this board. Can you give me the one name of people of one person
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  who is like I play unchained? I like unchained and I play it on
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  a regular basis. Oh what I know, I don't see anybody. I
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  see the same five people. Fair You're welcome, Yes, certainly they sold
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  a number of on chain decks. On chain decks are still trading hands,
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  not as much as I want to sell mine for, but they are trading
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  hands. People do play games with them. It's not for us, but
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  as an improvement too. Unchained saying, like, you know what unchained was
• 28:41
  kind of neat, But most of the decks were total trash. So we
• 28:45
  are adding this level of like we're adding chase stuff that people were interested,
• 28:51
  whether it was good or not, but the stuff that was chased before.
• 28:55
  We're increasing the odds you get chased stuff in this, so it's more likely
• 29:00
  you can have them play with this stuff casually if you are interested. Because
• 29:03
  a lot of people want to play with Ultra Gravitron, this gives them a
• 29:08
  potentially easier way to get one, which I think is lame because they should
• 29:11
  just be buying my Ultra Revdan decks that I have for sale. Uh,
• 29:17
  and you can get your Wombo combos through me for less than I paid for
• 29:21
  the deck because they're not good, but they are fun, and this should
• 29:26
  be an increase of fun. The other thing that you guys didn't pay attention
• 29:30
  to, probably is that these are legal for use in the adventures timed games
• 29:37
  at that offense, because you know this cast is also the group that goes
• 29:42
  and plays those. But you could use your potentially very broken on chain deck
• 29:48
  to do it. Oh it is sorry missed then you know what else you
• 29:51
  know? Or else? These are going to be legal in Shredder Shredder Yeah,
• 29:56
  for sure, these are prime shredder candidates. I will be taking order
• 30:02
  that medal right now. By the way, Shredder Worlds will be happening at
• 30:04
  KFC and there's a special there's a special ties to the winner. Yeah,
• 30:11
  it's pretty sweet. Shredder Worlds. It's coming towards you. You should see
• 30:17
  if you can get it streamed during lunch like we did Canadian Nationals. Well
• 30:21
  probably, I mean Sheep has a has a webcam, will figure out a
• 30:26
  computer. We'll probably stream it all right, at least record it. I
• 30:36
  indeed will shred a vault master doc under you'd have to bring one, though
• 30:41
  I don't. I don't think we'll get them there. I have one that
• 30:47
  Sheep gave me. They kept saying you only get them at vaults. This
• 30:51
  is not a vault. Maybe there will be key maybe there will be KFC
• 30:56
  two extra Crispy Master the world every shifts. So back to this managerie,
• 31:07
  what do you guys think of about the actual arc on card and the artwork
• 31:11
  that's on it? All right? I was actually gonna say, here's your
• 31:15
  silver lining. The back of the cards look cool. I agree. I
• 31:19
  think they look really snazzy. So we got remind me of like top you
• 31:30
  know, yeah, that's that's definitely yeah, it's definitely outside. Like the
• 31:36
  packaging definitely reminds me of that. I don't know if it's just me,
• 31:41
  but the I save key forge, I like design, I like this,
• 31:47
  I do this, this, This is the kind of stuff we're saying,
• 31:49
  like they could use this for store prizing. Stuff they can make cool are
• 31:57
  different than what you get anywhere else that are legal, so we can sleave
• 32:01
  it. You can't see it anyways. Yeah, can you mention if they
• 32:07
  were like menagerie is legal, but you can only get it at your local
• 32:13
  stores or a vault or something. But don't make it a vault, Jam,
• 32:17
  Jam, But if you could get it your local stores, I think
• 32:21
  Jam would be okay with it. I don't know, Jam, would you
• 32:22
  be cool with that? We'll see, He'll type in a second, that's
• 32:30
  the best you're gonna get. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why
• 32:37
  he'd be against he was talking about exclusivity. But if you could just go
• 32:39
  to your local and play and win and get on like that, seems like
• 32:44
  problem solved. Unless Stan is there, that's right, then he would just
• 32:49
  take Dan will now be showing up at Jam's local everywhere. Control them.
• 32:55
  Not everyone has to start with Charter Jet just to can't. I'm sure GG
• 33:01
  has been at least. The one thing I can say about g is they'll
• 33:05
  give you whatever crap they got to give out, and they'll just give it
• 33:08
  to you. So, I mean, the Jam's really gonna hate it when
• 33:15
  we get those world class decks. It's gonna be great. It's It's okay,
• 33:21
  though, Wookie, your own individual store will just put it on the
• 33:23
  shelf. Oh god, yeah, so we're fine with that man. Yeah.
• 33:28
  So our local this week, for everybody listening, we had a prize
• 33:30
  kit delivered to our local store and they back in February. This is just
• 33:36
  the generic what has been sending out. So a couple of deck boxes allowed
• 33:42
  some chain tryers. Yeah, hey, but you want to know what's funny.
• 33:49
  This stuff's been on the shelf since February and nobody bought it. You
• 33:52
  guys did no, no, no, no, no, no, it
• 33:54
  was it wasn't on the we basically we wait, I lost you there,
• 34:00
  we lost the bot. But we ended up going ahead and we were playing
• 34:06
  in store. We left and it's not that we left, we just weren't
• 34:09
  playing because there was no product. There was nothing there. We came back.
• 34:14
  We've been playing in the store for a solid three months. But we
• 34:16
  actually set up here as an organized play from us where here's what the events
• 34:22
  are for the month of October. We had talked to the store, Hey,
• 34:24
  we want to use that kit that we've been saving. We're hoping to
• 34:28
  be able to you know, drum up some more support, some more people
• 34:30
  coming in. And we got to the end of the month, Hey,
• 34:34
  where's that kit that we had back in February. I don't know. I
• 34:37
  can't find it. I don't know, I can't find it. Come back
• 34:42
  to their time. Didn't I give it to you guys? Yeah, didn't
• 34:44
  I give it to you? No, and Sydney will because we had an
• 34:47
  adud amountain at that point while we were waiting for a local car goes ahead
• 34:52
  and wanders over and was actually trying to pick up box or like sleeves,
• 34:57
  and she's like, hey, guys, isn't this our wild wormhole Matt.
• 35:01
  That's just in the random Matt pile and these two boxes that look like keyboard
• 35:07
  boxes? Yeah what I mean? Yeah, there we go. We found
• 35:13
  it. That is a problem with our own local game store, who literally
• 35:16
  two weeks ago tried to go, Oh, Larkana's coming in next week.
• 35:21
  By the way, we're the Keyfardge group. Oh sorry, guys. I
• 35:27
  mean I'm sure you walk liked it. Nothing wrong with that, Like you
• 35:31
  got to pitch your new stuff. Yeah, cross cell right, hopefully there's
• 35:35
  Well they're not, but you know, I could dream that they're saying the
• 35:37
  same. They had no idea who we were, even though we've been going
• 35:43
  there for like three, four or five months. Isn't new store owners shouldn't
• 35:49
  be pushing key Ford right now. There's not a reason to do that.
• 35:54
  I mean, I guess what we do need someone on the inside on the
• 36:01
  store to say, hey, there's a playgroup. This group is meeting regularly
• 36:06
  and is playing. If you're a store owner jr. You have a finite
• 36:10
  amount of like resources to push and move interest to make money. I agree
• 36:16
  with you. I'm just saying that, are you going to put your eggs
• 36:20
  in Keyboarde's basket if you're a store owner right now? Really no, I'm
• 36:22
  gonna push them into Magic. Well, I'm gonna push them into the cardboard
• 36:27
  crack. Yeah, Lorcana. If you actually have the product and a lot
• 36:31
  of stores Magic, they just don't. Suffering has lost several playgroups and many
• 36:38
  stores. Yeah, for everywhere. For every angry sheep that's leaving Magic,
• 36:45
  there's three kids. I'm just saying if I was a store owner, I
• 36:49
  wouldn't say Magic either. But like new games, like new new games that
• 36:52
  have marketing campaigns by the companies that own those games behind them, like release
• 37:00
  every year. Like a store owner is going to push that right now,
• 37:04
  that's Lorkana one pieces seem to be hot in son Mary is like whatever,
• 37:07
  Like those things are what they get pushed by store owners. So understand the
• 37:14
  person coming up and pushing Lorcana like that. That makes sense. Honestly,
• 37:17
  if someone came up and started pushing key Forge that like literally wasn't me in
• 37:22
  Layer I was like, I would be shocked. I'd be like you've heard
• 37:25
  of this game. So the short answer is that I have purchased Larkana there
• 37:31
  for my own girls. That's where we got in the box, and so
• 37:35
  they recognize me for that. What's disappointing is that we are there week in
• 37:38
  week out for key Forge, buying key Forge, and yet there was no
• 37:44
  recognition for that. It was the one piece of Lorcana that kind of drew
• 37:50
  them in and remembering me for that, and that says a lot for a
• 37:52
  store. Now again, most stores are really struggling to get product for Lorcana,
• 37:58
  and I will tell you the lorcanum Mart has drastically dipped as a result
• 38:02
  of scalpers and people buying selling at a high rate, and it has really
• 38:07
  impacted the local op scene. People just trying to build up their community.
• 38:12
  On a different front, I'd also talked with our games Universe, our our
• 38:17
  store, and our group in regards to I'd shared Wookie with you. I
• 38:22
  think in me Sheep in regards to the new Star Wars and their plan of
• 38:27
  what they're doing. Again, that's a new game that's coming up. Hotness
• 38:30
  that's there. It has an ip in the background and in cheap I hear
• 38:36
  what you said, like Ghost Galaxy just simply doesn't have the monetary amount to
• 38:42
  be able to market. But what was stated right now in October was,
• 38:49
  hey, guys, this game is coming out. We're roughly looking at for
• 38:52
  January. We've already reached out to stores and as a result, from January
• 38:58
  to March, we'll be kind of getting to know and then you'll have ope
• 39:02
  or organized play with building the local community scene starting in March. That sounds
• 39:09
  really really good that there's an actual plan, it's announced and they've communicated with
• 39:14
  the game stores, and I think that's what we have to look at,
• 39:16
  is they're hot new games. They're gonna do that. But again that's what
• 39:22
  we're competing against. So yes, I hear what you're saying. Ze,
• 39:27
  I understand why people don't know about KeyForge. It just is really depressing when
• 39:30
  I've been there weekend. You're talking about like the Star Wars people reached out
• 39:34
  to the game stores because I know, I know Loana, did I see
• 39:37
  I know multiple stores in our region that I have Like there's this like Larkana
• 39:43
  Ope calendar thing that the company produced or whatever, like they're hanging up in
• 39:47
  stores in use and like you can go look at it. Yeah, now
• 39:51
  I will tell you for lor Kana. I know this is gonna get booed
• 39:53
  off from here, but the independent players and the games stores have built a
• 40:00
  bigger op community than we have gone ahead and seen coming from Ravensburger. They
• 40:07
  have put up one kit like yeah, like they have a calendar, kid,
• 40:13
  they have backing, Like that's what I'm talking about. Like you can
• 40:15
  go to almost any sore in Houston right now and you can see that calendar
• 40:19
  like it's a thing. Correct. But what they have gone for is here's
• 40:23
  your promos, here's your pins. You're talking about a game that has more
• 40:28
  money behind it than Gig will ever spend in their lifetime. That's true.
• 40:34
  Like you guys like any even when you go and talk about FFG, they
• 40:37
  have Asthma da behind them. They have more money to throw on the floor
• 40:42
  than Gig is ever gonna spend. Like it's just the scales and everybody's just
• 40:47
  like, well, just do it like the other one does it, and
• 40:50
  it's like the ship just doesn't work. That stuff is really expensive everything,
• 40:53
  but like, oh, it doesn't cost anything to make a kid. No,
• 40:59
  I'm going to be like I don't know the numbers. Why then,
• 41:02
  all I know is that L L S S for fab came out of nowhere
• 41:07
  and they did all of that. I've never heard of Ravensurger. Maybe it's
• 41:10
  bigger than that, is a big puzzle company. And Okay, yeah they're
• 41:15
  they're recently sized. Well, have the money behind them? Disney isn't any
• 41:22
  doubt it? Right like Disney. They are something on Disney properties. So
• 41:30
  what's your Disney money behind Know what you're missing is Disney. You're missing a
• 41:34
  huge piece here. Well, let me is licensing Disney properties the same way
• 41:40
  ff G is licensing Star Wars from Disney. They paid Disney Disney. Now
• 41:50
  that is not true. Disney is heavily invested and cares about damn near everything
• 41:55
  their property goes on the hardest people to work with. As far as I
• 42:00
  understand, I don't really know. I've never done any of it. Yeah,
• 42:01
  I will agree with sheep in that Disney does have more controls and they
• 42:07
  are difficult to work with. From the low kind of side, what you're
• 42:09
  actually looking at is Disney has an oversight to make sure that the cards that
• 42:13
  they're putting into the game will match the universe that's there that they're not going
• 42:17
  outside of it, and so they basically will produce cards. Ravensburger produces cards.
• 42:22
  They're looking at it, how does it fit into the universe, And
• 42:24
  it has to be okayed by Disney before it actually gets to publication. That's
• 42:29
  what Disney has control over. But Disney's not giving them money for marketing or
• 42:34
  for other aspects that and we do have to see it it is being It's
• 42:37
  more that would be surprised if Disney didn't have money into it, especially the
• 42:45
  way that it's on their properties and they have done release. Would I would,
• 42:50
  I'm the opposite. I would be shocked. It's Disney. It works
• 42:52
  the other way. You pay for the right to have their stuff at all.
• 42:58
  So I would be shocked Disney has invested in anything the other way,
• 43:01
  unless unless somehow they have some like equity in their company. Now, well
• 43:07
  again, what this brought me back to. I know we've been very very
• 43:13
  white rabbits hole. We're completely off track. I like the menagerie outline that's
• 43:19
  here. I actually like the graphic design that's on the I say key forge
• 43:22
  decks, both on the inside where you can actually see it and then on
• 43:25
  the back, I think that if you went ahead and built a system where
• 43:30
  if you're participating in you know, three days out of the month, or
• 43:35
  you're going ahead and even debt two days out of the month, that a
• 43:38
  store would be able to pick up a nice differently back deck that says key
• 43:45
  Forge ope scene from this year, or uh, the key Forge op is
• 43:51
  back. Something as simple as that with a different back would draw in old
• 43:55
  players. And I don't know if it's going to draw old players like old
• 44:02
  players back Game Found one. There's less backing on Game Found two. There
• 44:07
  is alternate art available here. Again, I I'm just saying, every time
• 44:14
  we say bring back old players, nobody knows how to. They're like,
• 44:19
  there's not an answer that just brings people back. Well, we need people
• 44:23
  in the actual stores, and so having a store exclusive item is a way
• 44:29
  to do that versus having nothing. But every time, every time there's just
• 44:35
  talk about all the relapsed, all the old players and if you'll get a
• 44:40
  few, but there's just not ever going to be a million of them.
• 44:49
  Well I did gund and I'll play them all have fun. Uh, you
• 44:59
  know, play play them once and level in the box of shame. Yeah,
• 45:01
  you know, but hm, that's fine. You know, I like
• 45:05
  playing fun stuff. I'll play around with a little bit, but it's you
• 45:07
  know, maybe I'll get a cool epic quest deck. Now you can't be
• 45:13
  anywhere. Well but yeah, if if your store was running an event with
• 45:17
  it, would you use it? DRez, Yeah, well, which we
• 45:21
  mean I would run the event. I know you're running, but I'm saying
• 45:24
  we would do the same if we went ahead inside, we're gonna run unchained,
• 45:28
  And I think, sheep, that's what you had talked about for Halloween.
• 45:30
  It'd be perfect timing. Like there's some niche opportunities to be able to
• 45:36
  play it. It just hurts because when these decks aren't tournament legal, they're
• 45:40
  limited as to what their purpose is in our greater game. Yea, So
• 45:45
  here here's the other thing. Here's the thing I've learned. Number one,
• 45:49
  this idea of getting lapsed players is like laps players are gone. Their laps
• 45:54
  players are their lapsed for a reason. It's time to push forward to not
• 46:00
  lapsed players, right to new players, to getting players who have not played
• 46:06
  this game before to maybe get into this game. And the biggest thing that
• 46:13
  brought everybody that's the problem. I'm not in a marketing job. It's not
• 46:17
  our job. How am I going to do that? I don't know.
• 46:21
  I don't I don't have a marketing I run a pond store, Okay,
• 46:27
  I'm good with spreadsheets, numbers and how to make a store look pretty.
• 46:30
  I'm not. I don't have a degree in marketing. I'm sorry. That's
• 46:36
  some to them. They need to have a degree in marketing. Like my
• 46:39
  assume my assumption is Josh Wood or Josh Jeremy would Okay, I don't know
• 46:49
  whatever. Number two, Uh, Menagerie. I mean, there's like this
• 46:58
  idea I've gotten with you recently, and it's just wait for the other shoe
• 47:02
  to drop, like the carrot was dangled, right, and it's like Menagerie.
• 47:08
  Oh, we're gonna reveal what Menagerie is and it's gonna be super duper
• 47:13
  cool and it's gonna be awesome. And instead I get unchained two point one
• 47:20
  five. I mean, you are disappointing. I am heavily every time a
• 47:25
  stretch goal is well, there's only been one thus far, but every time
• 47:30
  I get new information, I'm almost immediately disappointed. There is one pretty cool
• 47:40
  and that the revenue one, next, I don't care another, you don't
• 47:51
  You don't care another. Nothing that's gonna make you happy except your multiplayer format.
• 47:58
  That you're the only one all this that really cares about sure, right
• 48:02
  like that, Like you want something that other people don't want. I want
• 48:08
  stuff that you don't want, and this cast happens to be the one that
• 48:13
  doesn't have any love for menagerie. But that does not mean other people aren't
• 48:19
  excited because they released that and there was finally a bump in the campaign.
• 48:23
  Is it because that or is it because we all see that if we get
• 48:27
  two hundred thousand dollars, we can guarantee one of those silly decks. I
• 48:30
  don't know. I mean, if if a silly deck somewhat guaranteed me a
• 48:35
  good deck, it might be a different story. But I don't think a
• 48:37
  silly deck is going to I mean, I don't know. I'm tired of
• 48:42
  cracking decks to just get more trash and I get to throw away. You
• 48:46
  need to have it at the store, But you know, right right right,
• 48:51
  I mean, I have a literal collection of seventy two Saasuow decks like
• 48:57
  they are it's instruction to play yeah. I mean the fact that it's not
• 49:04
  tournament legal, I think is the mess, right, But but that is
• 49:07
  the attempt, right. The attempt with the manager deck is you're, in
• 49:10
  theory, more likely to get something interesting to play, even if it's not
• 49:15
  more likely to be quote unquote competitive. But now there's zero chance to be
• 49:22
  quote unquote competitive. They can't compete. Well, yeah, there's step one,
• 49:30
  be tournament legal, and they're not. I mean again, but we
• 49:34
  have cool backs. This could I mean, this could have been something.
• 49:37
  I mean, I'm gonna pull I'm gonna get my uh Jenka dav And it's
• 49:45
  such a kick in the pants because it's like, man, I've wanted a
• 49:47
  Gangka deck for forever. I finally got one sheep shipped to Canada, so
• 49:52
  I no longer have one, and the first to do that has nothing to
• 49:58
  do with it. That's that's just a little backstory into all this. But
• 50:01
  the first I'll probably Paul it is not I can't even I can't even I
• 50:06
  can use it sometimes. Oh it sounds like way, well, he's going
• 50:10
  to like every single opens it's gonna be Guka and it's and it's gonna be
• 50:16
  something dumb too. It's gonna be like it's gonna be like jing jing jinka.
• 50:22
  It's like here we go. Oh wait, it doesn't matter. So
• 50:25
  you you are. You keep talking, and then one thing you got to
• 50:29
  come back and look at is numbers that actually matter. Right, Look at
• 50:34
  how many people back the game last game foul. Look at how many people
• 50:37
  have already backed this game found that's fifteen hundred on this current one. And
• 50:42
  you look at the ope the stuff we care about. How many unique individuals
• 50:50
  participated in Gigi op in twenty twenty three. Do we have a number for
• 50:58
  how many unique I ascid and Josh wouldn't give it to me, but what
• 51:02
  like it's like three hundred, right, because like the biggest one in the
• 51:07
  US was one hundred, and then you figure maybe the mother seventy five people,
• 51:14
  maybe fifty people between the other. So then you get Italy, that's
• 51:16
  another one hundred and fifty. Okay, so maybe it's four hundred people total,
• 51:22
  right something I don't think so that I have. So that's eight hundred
• 51:28
  get backers. Okay, So well I don't think so, but yeah,
• 51:34
  you could be right, uh you know, but you're still your four five
• 51:37
  hundred people versus fifteen hundred or many thousand on the last one. I don't
• 51:43
  remember that like us competitives don't actually matter that much, right, Like we're
• 51:53
  over focused. Well that is a problem with their O P selection, not
• 52:00
  with their Game Found design, and OP is separate from Game Found in the
• 52:08
  grand scheme of things, maybe this one you can actually pitch in five bucks
• 52:13
  and maybe find out about OPE later. But like OP and Game Found are
• 52:16
  two separate things. They don't have that designed in a way that catches the
• 52:22
  few hundred of us that are dedicated because they know we already getting our money,
• 52:25
  so they're trying to catch the other several thousand people who will give money
• 52:30
  to this that don't necessarily go to vaults, which means they don't maybe care
• 52:37
  that their decks aren't tournament legal because they are playing them kitchen table or adventure
• 52:42
  or just with their spouses or whatever they're doing with them, which is fine,
• 52:46
  right. It is totally fine for this game to have a whole bunch
• 52:51
  of products, just like Magic has done. They have printed many things that
• 52:54
  are not tournament legal. That's fine, right. Do we have the numbers
• 53:01
  of how many people on a month are going ahead and frequenting TCO. No,
• 53:09
  I have no idea. I only say because I think that would be
• 53:13
  a really interesting amount to be able to see. Because when you talk about
• 53:17
  being able to play, you know, just your random table at home.
• 53:23
  I think that's a really interesting statement. How many people are just playing super
• 53:29
  casual at home versus playing through the online clients of TCO. How many more
• 53:36
  would we change? I mean we were looking to try and develop that you're
• 53:38
  never going to figure out because maybe we're not like the people who are at
• 53:44
  home reporting. Oh, I mean I thought the tracker went. I think
• 53:49
  at one point in time, tracker was around like seventy unique a day.
• 53:54
  Have no idea what it is now. It's just more to mention, though,
• 54:00
  is that I have seen like when the game Found was initially announced and
• 54:07
  there was like a whole lot more of activity last year, when there's whole
• 54:10
  lot more activity on TCO at some point during the day, the numbers do
• 54:15
  get up there, so there are a lot of online active players. But
• 54:20
  I don't know how exactly that translates to kitchen table. I don't know if
• 54:24
  you would ever be able to translate that. We don't have particularly meaningful data
• 54:31
  to work off of. But Ghost Galaxies does have a little better data here
• 54:37
  because they know you can do some name matching and stuff and you can take
• 54:43
  a good guess at how many people back versus your list of people who actually
• 54:46
  showed up at events this year and kind of cross reference that and they can
• 54:52
  do it. It happens to be this Game Found is not targeted towards us,
• 55:00
  right Like every step along this Game Found, they have tried to make
• 55:05
  an improvement. They said this didn't work last time. Like from a company
• 55:10
  perspective, if you go and look and they root costing Alis some of the
• 55:14
  stuff they put in their continual improvement, they did all their buzzwords. They
• 55:16
  said, this didn't work. We're not going to do this. This could
• 55:21
  be a little cooler, So we're going to add power commerce to it and
• 55:23
  call it Menagerie. Uh. You know, we've improved our ability to make
• 55:28
  custom decks. We've added more customization to them. Like everything that they've done
• 55:32
  is better than last time. It just happens to be. We don't really
• 55:37
  care about any of that stuff. I mean, we care about some of
• 55:43
  it. No, we don't. You care about the top end prize.
• 55:50
  The rest of us don't. So is that because we were excited that Keith
• 55:53
  Forge was picked up from Ghost Galaxy and we just were chumping at the bit
• 55:58
  to get back any amounts of the game. And now that we have been
• 56:01
  around for another year seeing what was announced for us but kind of fell through,
• 56:06
  we're seeing the realization of what Ghost Galaxy as a company is really offering,
• 56:10
  and you're just disappointed. Now we are exactly what we've always said.
• 56:16
  We're barely focused on competitive play, which means a few more name Dacks.
• 56:22
  Have varying levels of interest across this group. Some of us don't care at
• 56:27
  all, some of us like them, but the other Adams, the Menagerie,
• 56:30
  the flump, it's a flumpy, they don't you're at it don't matter
• 56:39
  to us that much. We have said what matters to us. Were often
• 56:44
  complain about it constantly, right like, and I may be the most vocal
• 56:47
  is it's like it's op or don't bother selling me more dacks. But that's
• 56:52
  why we're here for the game. There's a whole group of people who aren't.
• 56:54
  And the promise is again we're not feeling represented right now, which hurts,
• 57:01
  but we are represented because there are the Vault Tours. So it's a
• 57:06
  really weird world where this particular group sitting at this talk is very well represented
• 57:14
  because they put out a ton of prizes for us to win this year.
• 57:19
  Almost all of us here have been to more than one event this year,
• 57:22
  have played a lot of serious key Forge are going to worlds here shortly.
• 57:28
  So like we got a lot this year, yes, yes, and then
• 57:35
  the casual player who plays at home got a lot in the last year.
• 57:38
  They got another adventure, they get goofy fun new decks, they get all
• 57:43
  kinds of things to play with. But if you're in between the two,
• 57:46
  or if you're trying to build the community, right, there's a total dead
• 57:52
  hole. Right, there's nothing going on. If you don't want to go
• 57:57
  spend a bunch of money go to the big event, or you're not playing
• 58:00
  at the kitchen table and you want to go to a store and play competitively
• 58:02
  with other people and build towards something bigger, there's nothing. It's the dead
• 58:07
  hole, right, And that's at least something like like I stepped in.
• 58:10
  My community has been there the whole time, and that is that to some
• 58:16
  expense to me, like that's just what happened. So, but yeah,
• 58:22
  that's what I think the but the game found. I don't know. They
• 58:27
  technically said that they're going to work on that next year, right, technically
• 58:31
  yep. And you know there's there's an amount of balance in this too.
• 58:36
  Like give them a lot of grief because they made a promise last year they
• 58:38
  didn't do or they put out a scope and they did not reach it,
• 58:44
  sadly, right, they did not hit all their op goals that they put
• 58:47
  out in twenty twenty two for twenty twenty three, so they said, you
• 58:51
  know what, we're going to try again. And one thing is once they've
• 58:55
  failed once at something, they have said, here's what we're doing the next
• 59:00
  time they failed with uh, double elimination, they made us too low,
• 59:06
  right, they said, you know, we didn't do well with shipping to
• 59:09
  foreign countries, we did not do well with alternate languages, so we know
• 59:15
  we can't make that promise. We're not going to make that promise again.
• 59:19
  I don't think they They are in a place where they don't often make the
• 59:24
  same promise twice and don't deliver twice. I mean, I can't see where
• 59:30
  they are. I mean, this year will be the test this year will
• 59:34
  be the test, right, And they're like, I'm you see all a
• 59:37
  stupid Facebook post where half people are like bomb gig in the other half of
• 59:42
  the people are like, drink the kool aid GG. And over the last
• 59:46
  days it's just been garbage, like his garbage on both sides. Whether you're
• 59:52
  for it or against it, or you're hating DG, you're loving GG,
• 59:55
  it's all been bullshit. It's just I mean, I'm just I'm not gonna
• 1:00:05
  lie any guys. I want something that gets me excited. I seriously,
• 1:00:13
  I do not know what this thing is. I don't know what I don't
• 1:00:17
  know what gets me excited either. Uh levitra personal problem? Yeah, too
• 1:00:28
  much back. I mean, you guys want to you guys want to get
• 1:00:31
  a four hymn sponsorship? Is that what you're saying? I maane, finally
• 1:00:36
  something that's appropriate. I can sign us. I can sign us up right
• 1:00:38
  now if you'd like. I apologize this one little mint. I I haven't
• 1:00:46
  even brought in that one up because I knew I was probably gonna get shot
• 1:00:50
  down immediately, so I was just like, well, moving on, so
• 1:00:52
  saying, I mean, it's what, haven't you've never heard of four hymns?
• 1:00:59
  Go ahead, didn't google that one? Yeah, go ahead google for
• 1:01:01
  him. Yeah, we'll give you time. Don't worry, We'll we'll talk
• 1:01:05
  about you google Josh this okay, Josh, can we can we go ahead
• 1:01:12
  and put this in each of the little goodie bags for worlds. That's a
• 1:01:15
  horrible idea. Again, every hymns package that goes out should have a key
• 1:01:22
  Forge stack in it. Hell. Yeah, that's how you win. That's
• 1:01:28
  like our target market. Yeah what what what is this attached to my to
• 1:01:35
  my four hymns? What is this card game called KeyForge? I shall do
• 1:01:38
  some research. Boom instant following. Yeah, why don't we have a marketing
• 1:01:45
  degree because he's a No, not Josh, don't talking to Josh. But
• 1:01:52
  he has a marketing degree. We know you have degrees. Cheap has all
• 1:02:00
  the degrees. He's a doctor one of the degrees. As we have established,
• 1:02:05
  I have learned nothing. I mean, you don't have to learn and
• 1:02:08
  I mean he was playing fraud to the tune of Top four except when he
• 1:02:14
  goes to Canada Top eight. Sorry. If he's like the new GG guys
• 1:02:20
  have degrees, maybe Josh, Jeremy don't have one here means a journalist like,
• 1:02:27
  don't you have to have a degree to the right ship and he want
• 1:02:32
  can do that? Doesn't real fast? I could definitely get a degree from
• 1:02:38
  the Crucible University, right so there corner. They have good card stock that
• 1:02:45
  could print that on. So look all nice And I feel like this should
• 1:02:49
  be a part of like the live streams now where it's just like Z's looking
• 1:02:52
  down that he looks up and he's like big Z logos university. We make
• 1:02:58
  this happen, We make this happen. Yeah, we can all do,
• 1:03:04
  right, we all know which to hogwarts? He can it match? Can
• 1:03:09
  it match some jerseys? It might? You never know, it might,
• 1:03:15
  So you all right, gif, I don't even know yeah about I just
• 1:03:27
  know what you're talking about the left thirty minutes, all right, But that's
• 1:03:32
  nothing to see here. There's lots to see here. I mean, this
• 1:03:36
  is a train wreck. I mean I don't even know where we are.
• 1:03:40
  What I got to even look at the outline. We have an outline,
• 1:03:45
  all right, what do we think the game found? We'll get to at
• 1:03:50
  this point. We said this last week. I originally, well I think
• 1:03:54
  I was high. I thought originally it was gonna get to like seven iron
• 1:03:58
  and twenty five thousand, Yeah right there. I think the lowest we said
• 1:04:02
  was like six hundred. Yeah that was me. I want six oh one.
• 1:04:05
  I think I was the lowest. I think you might be right though.
• 1:04:09
  You're you are going to see a spike come towards when is does it
• 1:04:13
  end five days from in? Five days from now? So we're looking at
• 1:04:17
  the thirtieth that Monday. Yeah, yep, So you will see a spike
• 1:04:21
  that weekend, and it'll be a pretty decent spike. I mean a lot
• 1:04:28
  of people, there's a lot, there's just there's not again for I think
• 1:04:31
  a lot of the people and a lot of people in our shoes at least,
• 1:04:36
  it's not a lot. Just I need something. I need my four
• 1:04:41
  hymns. I just need something to get me motivated, get me excited about
• 1:04:46
  like I just I don't need like that's like the idea of more decks just
• 1:04:53
  makes me like want to scream because it's like I have all these decks in
• 1:04:57
  the corner over here. I know what you're gonna say, Yes, Magic
• 1:05:02
  the gathering Pokemon. Yes, all the guards have trash cards to throw them
• 1:05:06
  away, use them as kindling. That's not where I was going at all.
• 1:05:11
  Here. You are the closest thing we have to a lapsed player.
• 1:05:16
  Yes, yes you are. He's not wrong. That's the problem. I
• 1:05:23
  am very close to becoming a lapsed player. We drag Wookie along and he
• 1:05:28
  just keeps poking along with us. But he has lost his love for any
• 1:05:32
  particular format. So there and they are what There are two real formats and
• 1:05:36
  key forge now correct, there is Arcan which you are lacking something that competes
• 1:05:43
  with any level of fire that I can bring you mean anything, yeah,
• 1:05:48
  okay? And like you be something be rated deck. Yes, Roses match
• 1:05:58
  up right, Like Rose just crushes some people and then it's just a mediocre
• 1:06:02
  deck the rest of the time. Most DT deck you put Okay, it's
• 1:06:09
  my pet deck, so in the corner I talk nicely to it. So
• 1:06:14
  so you you don't have any love for high level ARCon And that's the only
• 1:06:17
  choice to play right now is high level ar On because I do have love
• 1:06:21
  for high level arc On. The problem is I can't compete in high level
• 1:06:25
  arc sure, except you know I will put you on something at least respectable,
• 1:06:30
  right respect See I disagree about this I think that going ahead and seeing
• 1:06:36
  where the meta is, choosing a deck that you know well and plays to
• 1:06:43
  your strengths and playing it, I think that Rose is just fine. I
• 1:06:47
  think that you undersell yourself and say I can't play this in top level competitive.
• 1:06:53
  I think you over sell Rose's ability to when deliver consist the result it
• 1:07:00
  wins games. Nobody here is going to say it can't win games because it's
• 1:07:05
  got it's got moves. It also just gets crushed by some artifact. Correct,
• 1:07:13
  well, it well, isn't that, But isn't that what key is
• 1:07:19
  as match it loses to B tier brobnar Berserker board, Yes, that do.
• 1:07:29
  I couldn't find I couldn't find my my board wipe, so it just
• 1:07:31
  was what however, half here is what here? Right? It does happen?
• 1:07:36
  So and sheep is like a thousand percent Correct, I am as close
• 1:07:41
  to a lapsed player as you are going to find who is still sticking around.
• 1:07:45
  Right, he's not gong, No, it's not. Yes, you
• 1:07:53
  guys are a uge part of the reason what I was going with, What's
• 1:07:56
  what's the other format? Alliance? Okay? And you looked at that and
• 1:08:01
  you determine what about Alliance he created. Maybe yeah, like that one does.
• 1:08:09
  I'm sorry, what did you determine about Alliance when you went to actually
• 1:08:13
  play it at a competitive level? It is an extraordinarily diff just as difficult,
• 1:08:19
  if not more, to build a competitive Alliance deck than it is an
• 1:08:23
  ARC on. Thank you. Yes, I did it in like ten minutes.
• 1:08:28
  Okay, No, you bought your shush your mouth, hush it.
• 1:08:33
  Okay, So and I will tell you here is what I am missing.
• 1:08:38
  Right, I get my little I get my four hymns. It's just cold
• 1:08:44
  word for it now. I get it. On Tuesdays, I do like
• 1:08:47
  going out and playing. However, it is incredibly I don't know the word
• 1:08:57
  to use for this, but is incredibly exhaust continuing to purchase decks, to
• 1:09:03
  continue to pull mediocre bs. I talked aboutout a long time ago when I
• 1:09:10
  like laid out the math for you, like you and me, I was
• 1:09:14
  like, when you talk about like scaled collections after like next set, next,
• 1:09:19
  next. But but then here's the problem is that the secondary market is
• 1:09:25
  no better. Our secondary market that's where you're incredibly rocks for right now,
• 1:09:35
  affordable that can possibly win worlds right now. Okay, point one two,
• 1:09:42
  can you please point me in the direction I wanted. You're too snooty to
• 1:09:47
  everything I disagree about this the problem that I have wouldn't you wouldn't have bought
• 1:09:53
  fraud for five hundred dollars. Just one of my teammates don't found a co
• 1:10:00
  D deck posted for sale for ninety dollars. They got it for ninety And
• 1:10:04
  that thing could make a day too potentially. So what I have that has
• 1:10:12
  all changed to be fair to Wookie, Like what I just said did not
• 1:10:15
  exist before. WHOA. Everything I just said is entirely because of how good.
• 1:10:20
  So here here's the deal. I have done the work on d okay.
• 1:10:25
  I've put out the messages, I've the decks that are up there right
• 1:10:30
  now, and there's a lot of things right now on d okay that I've
• 1:10:32
  sent messages, I've tested with Sheep, I've put some work in to try
• 1:10:39
  to purchase these decks to either get I'm not selling it even though it's listed
• 1:10:45
  for purchase on d ok That happens, right, and that's all. That's
• 1:10:50
  a majority of the decks I'm looking at. I am getting ah, I'm
• 1:10:54
  actually not selling that deck. But are you also going in with the job.
• 1:11:00
  How low are you going to go on this? No? Okay,
• 1:11:03
  no, I'm having an you know, hey, what do you you know?
• 1:11:08
  Because I'm tired of I'm tired of getting. If you ask me about
• 1:11:13
  what has been successful buying is take the number you're willing to give and throw
• 1:11:18
  it at them. It's I've heard lots of people. Anytime you go and
• 1:11:23
  you're like, I want to get the best deal I can. Deals rarely
• 1:11:28
  happen, like take your real number that you are willing to pay for that
• 1:11:30
  deck and throw it at them and see if it sticks. Every time somebody
• 1:11:35
  tries to just bid down as low as they can get, people are just
• 1:11:39
  like, I don't want to sell it for as little as I can get
• 1:11:42
  poor. It like, that's just that's just not an effective negotiating tactic to
• 1:11:46
  actually acquire ex It's a way to get things cheap, but you don't land
• 1:11:53
  things because I'm trying to find it because here you go ill where people are
• 1:12:00
  invested, they know and they're not taking cheap. But I'm going to tell
• 1:12:02
  you that I don't think that two fifty three three fifty four, five hundred
• 1:12:08
  dollars is a cheap bid for a deck. And that's where I have some
• 1:12:12
  issues too. Well, if you're not willing to spend five hundred bucks on
• 1:12:15
  a deck that can win a three thousand dollars tournament, like, I don't
• 1:12:19
  know what to tell you, that's a that's any game, like, you
• 1:12:25
  can't I don't actually just to build a magic deck that can win up a
• 1:12:30
  cash magic I don't know any of this stuff. No, I'm simply saying
• 1:12:32
  those are bids that have been offered that have simply been turned back. Are
• 1:12:35
  more likely it's individuals who simply said, guess what, I'm going to have
• 1:12:42
  scored some pretty powerful stuff for under five hundred bucks lately, and I personally
• 1:12:46
  think you can look at the secondary market with a five hundred dollars budget and
• 1:12:49
  find something that can take you to day two. I think you can take
• 1:12:55
  you to day two. I think you can take you to day two.
• 1:12:58
  I don't know how much farther it will take you than that. Well one
• 1:13:02
  day two. It's pairings and a little bit of luck. All right,
• 1:13:08
  Here's what I Here's what I continuously see. Yes, here's the day two
• 1:13:14
  is. Look, here's the high offer. Here's the high offer. Here's
• 1:13:16
  the high offer. Right, we come in with an offer. I've never
• 1:13:20
  done that. It's like, hey, what's what's your realistic price? You're
• 1:13:24
  willing to let this deck go for? Yeah, you're asking lois I realistic
• 1:13:30
  price? You're willing to let the deck people if they knew the number they
• 1:13:34
  wanted for the deck, they would have put it on it. They want
• 1:13:40
  you to come at them with a number. I want you to impress them,
• 1:13:45
  May them feel good, show them your feathers. So so key Ford
• 1:13:55
  is now the peacocks shuffle. It's all about cock. It's always been in
• 1:14:00
  the money. If you want something about that's all we talk about. This
• 1:14:04
  show asked the cock. So just just you know, Jeremy does have a
• 1:14:11
  degree as a Bachelor's of Arts and Communication and Media with a three point sixty
• 1:14:16
  three g p A. Yeah. I was like, how did you find
• 1:14:26
  that out? That's incredible, incredibly strange. Three point six like b's and
• 1:14:31
  a's more as a lot higher than I got. Like a three point six
• 1:14:39
  is like a bunch of anus. And you know what they call the last
• 1:14:44
  in the class in a doctorate program, right, doctor? She doctor?
• 1:14:48
  I was gonna say talk to she. I mean, I'm just I am
• 1:14:54
  incredible, and I think it's just it's the secondary for market meet for me
• 1:14:58
  is incredibly frustrating. It is not camping. I got nothing good until I
• 1:15:04
  spent way too much money on a single deck so and it got through the
• 1:15:11
  world in two different events on the same day. Yeah, but he couldn't
• 1:15:15
  win in the States. He had to go to Canada for that, so
• 1:15:17
  let's be honest. Hurley is also he has gotten associates and a bachelor's a
• 1:15:26
  master's degree. M it's well, I just knocked everyone off their so we're
• 1:15:39
  now. It's just my brain's already fried. But yes, Sheep is correct.
• 1:15:43
  I am as close as you will get. I don't know. I
• 1:15:47
  don't know what they could deliver to you outside of doors level events that but
• 1:15:58
  that's exactly what I want. I want store level events. I want meaningful
• 1:16:05
  prize support in my store. I want to be able to go and win
• 1:16:12
  the little stupid trinkets. That's what I was gonna ask, What is meaningful
• 1:16:15
  to you? I want the stupid trinkets. I want what about the we
• 1:16:21
  just gave you? Well, but the problem is there's there's a there's a
• 1:16:27
  what do they call that? You just want diminishing, diminishing, diminishing return.
• 1:16:32
  And how many do I have? I don't know, you lose them?
• 1:16:38
  So five still one? I have five. I have five of that.
• 1:16:41
  Two of them are still the package. I have five. Like,
• 1:16:45
  Hey, how many chain trackers can use in one game? Well, if
• 1:16:53
  you were to play four decks against the adventure by yourself for the answer.
• 1:16:59
  Okay, but if I'm just playing just you and me, how many chain
• 1:17:02
  trackers can I use in one game? None? Because I've already beat you,
• 1:17:09
  all right? Moving on anyways, Yes, I want the trinket.
• 1:17:14
  I want new fresh keys, right, some cool keys I can display it
• 1:17:19
  on, right, I just want something different. Pins. I'll take pins.
• 1:17:28
  I'll take patches, not so much. Stickers. You can't get me
• 1:17:30
  with stickers, sorry, stickers just rub off. Yeah, temporary tattoos,
• 1:17:36
  I might take temporary tattoos. I will take key forge fruit by the foot,
• 1:17:44
  the individual foot Yeah yeah, the ones with the tongue tattoos that you
• 1:17:47
  stick on your tongue. No, just me, I'm the only one I
• 1:17:51
  remember that that. I just I want I was partial to gushers myself.
• 1:17:57
  I want something in my store that makes me want to go. So I'm
• 1:18:03
  with you, and it's exactly what you're saying. It's the whole that's missing,
• 1:18:08
  right. There is nothing at the store. There's no competitive scene in
• 1:18:14
  key Forge that we haven't made ourselves. That doesn't go to Vault tours,
• 1:18:18
  which are expensive and not that often. And to be honest with you,
• 1:18:23
  twenty twenty three was a bad Vault Tour season for me because I got out
• 1:18:27
  to literally zero. Well now this is uh so I'll just like as Zee
• 1:18:33
  says, there's the three demons and this is how well I have slays the
• 1:18:36
  my mine. Tuesday was my fourteenth wedding anniversary, and where was I playing
• 1:18:43
  key Forge? I was playing sheep Ship. This is not what we're all
• 1:18:51
  striving for. Fin you have your own issues over there, my friends,
• 1:19:00
  I'm not about to put a put a notched like that. I'm gonna build
• 1:19:03
  a whole new mountain into that throne here in a little bit. I know,
• 1:19:08
  no, friends, take care of your family and your spouses first,
• 1:19:12
  I will say after I as well taken care of don't you put that on
• 1:19:19
  me? But I'm just gonna say it, Josh, can you check with
• 1:19:24
  me before we make fall to our dates? Please, Okay, no more
• 1:19:27
  of this on my children's birthday, like literally on the weekend that we aret,
• 1:19:31
  I plan like seventy four children so hard. I have three children.
• 1:19:36
  Okay, you know you're how they're born. Every weekend employees you have because
• 1:19:43
  you treat them all like children, right, they pretty much because they because
• 1:19:45
  they act like children, because most of them can't figure out how to show
• 1:19:49
  up to work. I know it took me. I know it took me
• 1:19:54
  thirty six years to figure out how to show up every day. But here
• 1:19:57
  we are. I still do it every day. But I just my Vault
• 1:20:01
  Tour season was rough this year because I didn't get to participate in anything so
• 1:20:08
  that that I struggled with. There's no meaningful store organization support. I feel
• 1:20:15
  like the store we go to doesn't even like I feel like they know we
• 1:20:19
  exist, but they don't really know what we're doing. They're just like,
• 1:20:23
  yeah, that's that weird group that comes in on Tuesdays and like they sit
• 1:20:26
  down and play this weird, weird game, like just and give weird looks
• 1:20:30
  at the one piece guys who just talk annoying crap NonStop and number number one,
• 1:20:36
  they're not playing one piece they are playing, um like us we talk
• 1:20:40
  about cool stuff. They're playing my hero Academia. But like I just have
• 1:20:46
  the cool trinkets, right even if hey, this month's color for the Ember
• 1:20:51
  tokens are purple, that would get me to come and get me excited that
• 1:20:58
  I could go away wait for Ember. Like it doesn't even Ember, just
• 1:21:02
  colored and season if they like about it, like who needs a tollard Ember?
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  I have never, ever, ever, ever, out of all the
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  time, I have never bitched about the little trink and just the chain trackers.
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  I don't know what their heart on is for those like FSG just the
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  love the trackers. They're not intended as prizes. They're in a box next
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  to Josh's desk and he's like a ship. I need something to send out.
• 1:21:33
  I reached into the box of chain trackers, and you want to you
• 1:21:36
  want to know what was really really cool that I just I don't think they
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  do. Like when I played L five R, because you had your honor
• 1:21:43
  token for L five R. You had these really cool heavy metal honor trackers,
• 1:21:49
  like just the just the printed on like chain tracker, like it just
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  first it was the cards and they were kind of cool until you had all
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  of them, and then more of them than you could ever ever, I
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  don't know. I kind of liked collecting them when they first came out,
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  I put them in a sleeve. I thought they were nifty, you know,
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  it was. They were interesting until, like I said, till you
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  had all of them in multiple varieties. So I think the problem with the
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  train checkers, once you have one, you have Whereas when we were talking
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  Amber last week, No, I think that that was a good idea because
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  you can have different types. I think something there successfully unsuccessfully solved wookies laps
• 1:22:39
  problems here, and it really comes down to, like the laps of players
• 1:22:43
  we know is it's the same thing that we just keep kicking, which is
• 1:22:48
  there's no store level engagement or opie and it's a problem that that horse that
• 1:22:54
  we keep beating named Phil. Yeah he's dead now he is is now mince
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  meat. But maybe in twenty twenty four, but like even then, like
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  see something the big thing, like even just when we had the ope things
• 1:23:13
  like you knew you couldn't bring your fire, so you're kind of digging for
• 1:23:15
  like you were looking for something that like you're not going to scare off the
• 1:23:18
  new players, but you can compete with the old players, like you know,
• 1:23:23
  it was it was interesting because it made me dive into my stuff.
• 1:23:28
  Now it's just like, well, what what do I have that's good that
• 1:23:30
  can compete in a vault Nothing. I'm going to go back in my hole
• 1:23:35
  and wait for you know, wait till September ends. If somebody wake up
• 1:23:41
  Green Day and then stores are really playing as I don't know a lot of
• 1:23:45
  sealed that have decks it's sealed and sealed alliance. I don't mind a lot
• 1:23:49
  of sealed I like here do. I am just saying, like, again,
• 1:23:55
  your old decks have no purpose. Mm hmm a lie. But even
• 1:23:59
  then my purpose, there's never going to be purpose for most of your decks
• 1:24:02
  going to a vault tour just like just that everything's art. It's like that's
• 1:24:12
  great, but like I like flavors other than vanilla. Sometimes maybe we will
• 1:24:15
  have our con alliance and Sealed as our op track, Like just maybe that'll
• 1:24:21
  be a thing. And I'm not talking about sealed on Friday night and I
• 1:24:26
  don't and I don't need dollars as prizes. I want to go home with
• 1:24:30
  a bag of things. I don't need. I don't like, I agree
• 1:24:35
  with you. I just don't think they need. It's dumb, like you
• 1:24:41
  don't I am. I know a year ago a vault. I will build
• 1:24:47
  you a custom prize day bag and take your money. We were all together
• 1:24:55
  on the cast when we talked about like how did fab get so many people?
• 1:24:58
  And they are still way bigger than us, no matter like how much
• 1:25:01
  of a decline you want to say they're in. Like one of the things
• 1:25:05
  is money. There's no way to ignore that money draws people. I don't
• 1:25:10
  think it's the money that draws Okay, it is the money. Hold on,
• 1:25:15
  the money does draw the people. You're right, but I think honestly,
• 1:25:21
  okay, so draw anybody in key Forge, But hold on, the
• 1:25:26
  real draw is the cool ship. The money is a draw, draw the
• 1:25:33
  monetary ballad of a marketing thing. Like, all of the things draw people.
• 1:25:39
  And if we're talking about wanting to be bigger, we can't ignore any
• 1:25:42
  of them. I will say, like, think about the keyboard targeted audience
• 1:25:45
  right, Like I'm drinking beer out of a Pokemon branded glass pike glass tonight,
• 1:25:49
  where's my keyboards branded pike glass? Yeah? I could use I could
• 1:25:54
  use a Rocks glass. I could use a Rocks class would be branded not
• 1:26:00
  rock slas my key Forge branded coffee cup, my sorry, my sorry,
• 1:26:06
  and scarf. I got stickers off of Etsy to put on my work laptop
• 1:26:13
  so that I'm like, maybe one day somebody will see them and be like
• 1:26:15
  you play KeyForge hasn't happened yet. I'm not gonna light to you that I'm
• 1:26:24
  giving here's my here's my quarter. That fucking key Forge bag that I told
• 1:26:29
  all my shit in like that had me coming back to Vault Tours because I
• 1:26:33
  wish I wanted that Keythorge bag. I use it every ball. Yeah that's
• 1:26:39
  good. Yeah, Josh brobnar Brew love it. Put it on a glass,
• 1:26:45
  take my money or whatever you can make it, make a mug,
• 1:26:49
  yep something like. But like literally there was stuff on the prize wall that
• 1:26:56
  when they first showed it, you were like, man, that is the
• 1:26:59
  coolest thing ever. I want to go to as many vaults as possible,
• 1:27:02
  doesn't really matter how good or bad I do. I really really want to
• 1:27:05
  do well because I want the shards so that I can get the thing on
• 1:27:09
  the prize wall that was. That was exciting. That was exciting. Now
• 1:27:15
  FFG went a little crazy with the mats, and there was some things that
• 1:27:18
  I never cared about. And I understand that clothing is like that's a crapshoot,
• 1:27:23
  so maybe just get rid of the clothing. But things like remember the
• 1:27:27
  quivers, the quiver. The quivers were all the rage in Schomberg. It's
• 1:27:31
  just a rhet or quiver if it said KeyForge on it, Yeah, I
• 1:27:35
  had on the quivers. Yeah, I they were the same ones you could
• 1:27:40
  get for like forty forty six dollars. Yep, they're like forty nine ninety
• 1:27:43
  nine, forty six ninety nine whatever. But like there's just certain things that
• 1:27:45
  like, oh that's cool, and I'll I will go through hell and high
• 1:27:51
  water to do it. I I wanted that chair, and then we found
• 1:27:57
  out that there were no chairs, but I wanted that. I really wanted
• 1:28:00
  a key Forge chair. Z really wanted a custom gaming table. Right.
• 1:28:05
  That drove G to go to Germany. Like, cool stuff drives people.
• 1:28:11
  And yes, there is a monetary value to the things that fab fab does
• 1:28:16
  right with the stuff that they give away, but I think the cool stuff
• 1:28:20
  is really what drives people to come out as opposed to like just the money.
• 1:28:27
  The only reason that stuff has an their value is because they are cool,
• 1:28:30
  and that has a monetary value just because the size of the community is
• 1:28:34
  bigger. If we had that big of a community with the same coolness value,
• 1:28:40
  the monetary value of those same things would follow. You just never got
• 1:28:44
  that big, right, And just like there's I understand that there's things that
• 1:28:51
  are cool to me, foils. I love foils. I like shiny things.
• 1:28:56
  I like a lot of things. And I'm hoping that once we get
• 1:28:59
  to a point in whatever it is with this deck reprinting thing, that I
• 1:29:02
  can you know, I can get rose printed in all foil. So that
• 1:29:09
  was so that day when I finally do have enough reps to be do I
• 1:29:14
  understand they've said nothing about foils, but like the technology or printer technology for
• 1:29:19
  no right, I mean, I don't know what printer they have. It's
• 1:29:23
  Hewlett Packard, right, we all know how long the printing machine took him.
• 1:29:28
  But like, literally, foils is just paper. It's just a different
• 1:29:31
  kind of stock. You're a different It's just what it's just a different kind
• 1:29:38
  of I am a different kind of stock, you are, right, But
• 1:29:40
  just like I don't know, just like stuff drives me more than like money.
• 1:29:48
  It's just that's how it is. How about how about a key Forge
• 1:29:55
  themed album? Get like a DJ. What do you think what would you
• 1:30:00
  put? We have ffg tons of ideas back in the day we told them
• 1:30:02
  those like those like things you put on the back of the phone to help
• 1:30:05
  you hold it, Like that could be the key pop it would be you
• 1:30:10
  can pop it. That look like keys of each color, Like you could
• 1:30:13
  have three poppets as your freaking keys, like redesign the keys and you don't
• 1:30:17
  even got to make the metal, put them in, put them on.
• 1:30:19
  I'm totally fine with plastic. Right, Give me a pin I could put
• 1:30:25
  on my bag, you know, just something is done cheap. You still
• 1:30:29
  have all your pins from every vault to or you've gone to would phone case
• 1:30:33
  like iPhone base on my phone a key Forge iPhone case like and these are
• 1:30:39
  all dumb things you can do literally through like spreadshirt yep, yep, just
• 1:30:45
  like we You could get it archimes corner iPhone case if you wanted to right
• 1:30:50
  now, yes you can. We have more. I'm just saying like in
• 1:31:00
  terms of like Sheep said it best, and I didn't realize until he said
• 1:31:03
  it, and he's one hundred percent correct. Don't tell him how much does
• 1:31:08
  it hurt? It hurts a lot, even just diagnosed by the doctor.
• 1:31:14
  I got diagnosed by the doctor. That should be a new segment. I
• 1:31:18
  don't know how we work it in, but we'll figure it out. It's
• 1:31:20
  just often so it's not Hey, but here we are. We were gonna
• 1:31:28
  do revenants today. We got totally off track. I'm so surprised by that.
• 1:31:34
  There's a giant red move on in our show notes right now. That
• 1:31:41
  was there from thirty minutes ago. Just like there there was like we were
• 1:31:45
  gonna do the revenants Florence and Shanghai Vault tours. But I think, I
• 1:31:53
  mean, we have next week two. We're not going all right. We
• 1:31:57
  need we need a good five hundred a pledge reward. You can literally get
• 1:32:04
  that out of Z right now. Just let him design whatever step comes after
• 1:32:09
  embers, guys, and it'll just be busted and the greatest set ever.
• 1:32:16
  Maybe maybe, I mean that's a five hundred pledge level. Z might be
• 1:32:20
  designs set. If you told that to Z, I bet you you could
• 1:32:25
  get him to take a second mortgage out of his house or third possibly four.
• 1:32:31
  So I think I think if the five hundred level pledge is cool,
• 1:32:34
  we get there. I think if it's not cool, we we don't.
• 1:32:40
  Well, when will we see it? You're saying, we see, let
• 1:32:43
  me get to four hundred. Great, so we've got little under sixty k.
• 1:32:46
  So we're gonna see. It's gonna be a few days. Would he
• 1:32:51
  be taking out a reverse mortgage in the house, I mean he'll be paying
• 1:32:57
  off that debt. He'll just might be an indentured servit to did Gigi.
• 1:33:00
  He just has to work for Gigi for free for forever. I mean,
• 1:33:06
  if that takes us, I mean, isn't that what we're all doing right
• 1:33:09
  now? Yeah? Yeah, every week every Sunday when I pushed their product.
• 1:33:18
  But anyways, with that being said, I think we're going to cut
• 1:33:23
  it here. We've had a lot of fun this week. What time is
• 1:33:25
  it? Anyways? Ten sixteen old boy, it is time for everyone to
• 1:33:30
  go to bed. I'm tired. My brains fried. These brainscation. Doctor
• 1:33:34
  Sheep's on vacation, so you can find them on TC for the next three
• 1:33:39
  days. You don't have vacation time. You're struggling for that and your ear
• 1:33:45
  off that's because this was already scheduled. This is why I don't have vacation
• 1:33:50
  time, because it was already booked for these events. Don't ask questions.
• 1:33:55
  That was supposed to be this weekend. I think now I'm camping this weekend.
• 1:34:01
  Oh okay, either way, make sure you buy your DT decks for
• 1:34:06
  twelve ninety nine. Hey, support the game found campaign in the last five
• 1:34:12
  days. If you don't forget to Spade new to your cats and dogs for
• 1:34:18
  limits of his time only, you can get your fuzzy crud for twenty nine
• 1:34:23
  instead of four guys. Great down can be pretty bad. Hey, come
• 1:34:30
  to come to Minneapolis and uh maybe maybe we'll hang out and do some good
• 1:34:36
  times in Minneapolis Drausco Experience. Make it happen. Z will sign your cards
• 1:34:43
  and he'll he'll have eight by ten photos of himself. Sheep will sign your
• 1:34:46
  butt. Oh my, I forgot about that. Do we have the tattoo
• 1:34:55
  gun ready? Yeah? Is that a no? Can we get it overnight?
• 1:35:00
  Yes? I was told the Wookie would bring the fire to KFC.
• 1:35:06
  I might just burn the games entered down. I shouldn't say that, don't
• 1:35:11
  don't. I didn't say that, neither I don't mean it. I kind
• 1:35:17
  of mean it, but not really. I don't mean Oh gosh, wookie,
• 1:35:21
  after what happened this week in my school district. No, yeah,
• 1:35:26
  yeah, bad, lookie, I'm not I don't smoke anymore, so I
• 1:35:29
  don't even have lighters. Oh we just cracked. No, we didn't.
• 1:35:31
  I lied. I saw four hundred and three thousand somehow, and I was
• 1:35:35
  just scrolling too fast. It's still three hundred and forty thousand. But that
• 1:35:41
  being said, we'll see meet the ghost you claimed spice. Oh yeah,
• 1:35:45
  you have spice. We haven't written anything down in typical ac fashion. We
• 1:35:51
  have wrote none of it down. So hey, but this is a great
• 1:35:56
  time that if you have a question that you want to ask those ghosts at
• 1:35:59
  KFC, please please go ahead and reach out to us, because you know
• 1:36:04
  we totally hold back and won't ask them the real questions. Good journalism.
• 1:36:10
  Who's this? We I fully plan on asking real questions. I just got
• 1:36:15
  to write them down so I remember them, because you know, we all
• 1:36:17
  know how we get on stage. My brain goes to mush. Hey when
• 1:36:23
  you say bring it there, Josh, then just make sure we don't hear
• 1:36:26
  well. I can't talk about this. Do you go ahead and talk about
• 1:36:30
  this, because that is really really where we get some pushback on. Let's
• 1:36:35
  talk, Let's bring some spice, let's have fun, let's open this up.
• 1:36:39
  I don't think he really wants You don't want this smoke broh, like
• 1:36:45
  you don't want to anybody the episode say no comment, like that's all that
• 1:36:50
  would happen. I can't comment at this time. We're not quite sure on
• 1:36:55
  those details. See when you catch a falling knife too far, too soon?
• 1:37:05
  Anyway have it? We have a bloody knife like as a prize,
• 1:37:15
  like a knife with key Ford, and it's just got like I just got
• 1:37:18
  a ring and a pinky finger stuck to the end. It's like real c
• 1:37:23
  TP blood dress. You're coming from analogy in some way, you're coming from
• 1:37:30
  overseas, right dress. Yeah, just car just carry that in your luggage.
• 1:37:35
  You can fit that you carry on right personal. Don't worry guys,
• 1:37:41
  it's for a prop for the game. I don't worry about it. Don't
• 1:37:45
  worry about it. That totally works. Nothing to see here, totally works
• 1:37:48
  at the airport. But yeah, we are ending this episode. Who started
• 1:37:54
  the clicker this week? Where do we end up five nobody started the clicker.
• 1:38:00
  Good job guys. Anyways, that's gonna do it for us this week.
• 1:38:02
  We'll see y'all next week. Be forging everyone, May the Forge be
• 1:38:09
  with you. You close up and hope that this is just imagination. You
• 1:38:35
  heed the creature creeping up behind your ba ring the sectaries with this thing with
• 1:38:48
  mony your bottom thought the sign up