Latest / The Right Time with Bomani Jones / Ryan Day & Ohio State blow it vs. Texas + ESPN’s Absurd College Football Agenda | 09.13

Transcript

Ryan Day & Ohio State blow it vs. Texas + ESPN’s Absurd College Football Agenda | 09.13 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time presented by PrizePix.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like,
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: rate us, review us. Give us five stars. You only
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: a hater. And, Ryan, I'm going to have you jump
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: on early. I know we don't get to hear this fast,
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: but I feel like we kind of made a decision. Like,
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: you know, we could do some college football bonus stuff
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: for y'all on Sundays when the college football season has
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: dictated that is what we're doing. For sure. Right.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: You know, or, you know, if I ain't going nowhere
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: for the weekend.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I feel pretty confident we're going to be
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: back next week after Ole Miss LSU. I mean, LSU,
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M is the week after that. But
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: either way, every now and then on Sunday, we're going
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: to pop up. And this one is funny because I
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: text Ryan on Saturday and was like, hey, you know,
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: what do you think about maybe jumping on and doing
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: something on Sunday for college football? And he's like, well,
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: barring some great comeback in Austin, I don't think that's
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: going to happen.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: Then look down at the phone says, so.
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: It happened.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: Right. Texas was down 23 to three. One to gain 24, 23.
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: There was no way to think at 23 to three
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: that here, what you didn't think they were going to
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: do was score any more points. Right.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Let alone 21 of them.
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: Right. And a game that Arch Manning still didn't play
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: that great.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: He did not, but okay.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: Let's think about it. Let's walk through this. I don't
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: think he played that great. However, he also had that dude,
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: that interception, right?
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was to be caught.
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: Instead, it was some old Murphy's Law shit. Don't catch it.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: Bounce up in the air.
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: Intercept it. Goes the other way.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: I did not feel like the squad was doing their part.
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: to help arch and the squad includes that Sark. Yeah.
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: Like it really feels like the Mack Brown years over
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: and over again, watching him in so many ways.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: And one of them was them looking scared playing early. Right.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: And running an offensive game plan.
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: That is the kind of game plan you run when
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: you're scared of your probable first round pick quarterback. Watch
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: Mac do stuff like that, too. That's the Chris Sims
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: era right there. Like, hey, you don't want to let
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: the big guy throw the ball to those really good receivers.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: You don't want to do a little bit more.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you want to be
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: fair to Sark, them boys didn't look like they was
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: ready to be out there playing. And you know when
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: that happens? When you got a coach that's a little
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: wound up tight. And if there's anything that we see
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: about Sark on a regular basis, wound up tight.
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: However, they were playing against Ohio State.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: And Ryan Day, who also has a tendency to suffer
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: from wild uptight.
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: They had this.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: They lost this because they attempted four field goals.
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: They had chances to score points. Like, they could have
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: put this game so far away so early, and I
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: guess they feel like they did put it away, right? Like,
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: you could say they were up 20. You still attempted
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: four field goals. You're not going to win like that.
• 3:21
  Speaker 3: With, by far, right now, two weeks in, the best
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: player in the country.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: OK, I understand we probably shouldn't be giving so much
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: attention to the losers.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: He's not fair. No, he's not fair.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Like at this school that just keeps cranking out wide receivers.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: And I guess I'm going to say is a little
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: tricky because it's going to be easy for us to
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: get a.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: Bit revisionist on. What's his name? The one his daddy
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: played in the NFL. You know, it's about.
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Good enough.
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: Good enough.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: Good enough.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: Good enough.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: Good enough. um he was so good when he was
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: there and it hasn't worked out in the nfl so
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: it becomes kind of easy to go back and be
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: like i don't know but at the same time to
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: me number one and number two on ohio state receivers
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: of my lifetime number one is chris carter number two
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: was david bost that a man of your age is
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: not going to have the same memory of but a
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: man of my age Also from Houston.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: Boy, if I had Joel on here, boy, Joel would
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: go off.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: David Boston was probably the best Houston area athlete while
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: I was there, right? Like, David Boston probably could have
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: played in the NBA if it had come to it.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: Then he got to the NFL and he was cold.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: And then he, shall we say, started lifting a whole
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: lot of weights. Like, how is it possible that you
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: can lift so many weights?
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: Anyway, incredible receiver. Smith is on that tier.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Did you see when they started talking about how big
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: his hands were?
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: What a random way to make millions of dollars, by
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just having, you know, like pancakes for him.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like throw something at me.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: Watch what happens, right?
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: That's a $ 30 million a year skill. What do you do?
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: Catch stuff. That's all it is.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: Like you see Chris Carter talk about what his life
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: would be if his hand, if he did not have
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: the hands that he had. There's nothing like evolutionary that
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: really helps you.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: About being able to catch.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: No there's no life skill besides you know playing football.
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: No no and in fact it's counterintuitive like my brother
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: made a point once and i realized after i had
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: not played any sort of baseball for a while i
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: forget what i was doing but it involved like catching
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: some kind of pop-up and that was not as easy
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: as i remembered it to be and my brother made
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: a very good point he was like from you know
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: being team captain the softball team at work you know
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: he learned something he hadn't thought about which is um
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: standing under a falling object is an unnatural act. Why
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: would you do that? Something is falling out of the sky.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: You get out of the way, right? That's what you're
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: supposed to do. We have developed this counterintuitive skill around
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: this ridiculous game and some others.
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: And turned it into a $ 30 million skill. Anyway, he's
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: so good.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: And I know them Alabama fans, they thought they had
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: one like that.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: In Ryan Williams, but.
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's appropriate for me to say
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: what I think is obvious about why things have gone
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: the way they have for Ryan Williams.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: Why did he do that? You know what the that is?
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty aware of the that. Yes. Yes.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Nobody can help, huh?
• 6:21
  Speaker 3: No. No one can say anything.
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: That's what happens when these boys got too much money.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: It's really the truth. You'd have headed a household now
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: at 17 years old.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: Now he's the capital H head of the household. Anyway,
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Ohio State, Jeremiah Smith. I don't know
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: if he wins the Heisman, but he's got to be
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: the best player in the country. Now, that dude, I'm
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: not in on the saying dude.
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not there.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: No.
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: Ryan Day obviously messed up the end of the clock
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: and didn't do well in that situation, but At no
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: point once Texas got inside the red zone that I
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: think Ohio State was going to come back down and score.
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: He just doesn't have the arm.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. They don't.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: It is very interesting to me in this era now
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: with NIL. I feel like if you are Ohio State,
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: never should he doesn't have the arm.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Be the answer to what's going on with your quarterback.
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: You guys got to go get one of those.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, he seems like a Good player.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: But for what your ambitions are, and it's no longer
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: get through the season, win one bowl game, get a championship, perhaps,
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. You've got to go through a gauntlet.
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, you might want to.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: Make sure that you got somebody that can throw the ball.
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: But I feel like this season will go the same
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: for both of these teams, right? Which is to say,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: these feel like teams that could have gone 11-1, 12-0,
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: that are probably going to go 10-2.
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: 9-3, yeah. It's so funny. We look at Ryan Day.
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: He wins the national title a year and a half ago.
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: And the only thing I have to say about his
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: job are negative. I mean, they had, what, like five
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: of the top ten in this upcoming, this last NFL draft?
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: And now you blow a 21-point lead in the fourth
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: quarter to Texas. I know you're on the road. I
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: know it's a million degrees, but still. Yes.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: And now we get to say things like this. You're
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: never going to beat Indiana playing like that.
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: But for real, but I mean, Kirk Cignetti watches that
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: and he's licking his chops. Right.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: Well, so is the Ohio State coaching job becoming what
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: legendarily guys like me and Spencer always tell you about
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: the Alabama job?
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: Like just the worst job in the world? The difference
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: is Ohio State, they're not.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: Really going to run you out the way they run
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: guys out at Alabama over and over again. But in
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: the sense of nobody's ever going to be happy. Like
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: if you're why are.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: You still here?
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Right. So like if and I mean that in this sense.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Guys like Woody Hayes and Jim Trestle had that job
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: and kind of moved into folk hero status. Right. Trestle
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: won that one championship. And look, they were getting a
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: little grumpy at the end. Like there's a reason why
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: they let them run him out of there over those tattoos. Right.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: Because they were getting a little grumpy and feeling like
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: it could have gone a little farther ahead. They went
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: and got Urban Meyer and then they got even farther.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: So Urban Meyer gave them a serious proof of concept
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: of the idea that this doesn't just have to be
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: the best school in the Midwest.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: It can really be the best school in the country, right? Consistently.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: And I think most of us would argue that the
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: floor on Ohio State football is higher than the floor
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: anywhere else. Okay. But you have to beat Michigan literally
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: every year. And there's no excuse in for you to
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: lose to anybody. Ever. Ever. What is Ryan Day's record now?
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: I know it's something in 13.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, it is. I mean, he's probably won 87%
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: of his games. I bet it's 86 in 13, 88
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: in 13. It's 83 in 13. 83 and 30.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now I'm asking you, what can he do to
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: make them feel good? What can he do?
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: And I feel like jobs like that get harder and
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: harder as the more and more legends come in.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: Like who's going to ever think Ryan Day did a
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: better job than Urban Meyer? Who's going to think Urban,
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: you know, Ryan Day did a better job than Jim
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: Trestle or Woody Hayes. And I mean, Alabama, you can
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: see the same thing. about DeBoer has... Oh, great.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Nothing you can do.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: Nothing you can do. There's no way you can satisfy
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: that customer base.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: So if you're dating, like, what are you sticking around for?
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: The problem is, where are you supposed to go after this? Like,
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: what job are you going to go to that's better
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: than this one? Alabama's very similar.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: You go tell them, I need this. It's for the football.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: They're going to get it for you.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: It's not necessarily going to be the case anywhere else.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: Where else do you go, right?
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Then you get a job like Texas, which is interesting, where...
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: In the last 50 years, they haven't had a coach
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: worth being happy about. Like even with the run, I
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: always said about Max time, I thought the first half
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: of Max run, he was maybe a little underrated, but
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: then the last half at certain points, it was like maybe.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: A little overrated.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: But the bottom line is he had that job, I
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: want to say 17 years and won the conference twice.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Consistently embarrassed against Oklahoma. You can go up and down
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: the list on it. The big 12 met them where
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: they were a conference that was basically designed for your success, right?
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: All of these things being the case, they haven't had
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: anybody like there's a ceiling still to be unlocked at
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Texas for somebody to walk in and really be the
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: coach that everybody loves.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: It was almost Nick. It's almost seven.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: It was close.
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: It's this close.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: It was really this close. It's almost being saved, right?
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: It was possible.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: Ohio state. I mean, I feel like everybody's really done
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: a really good job, except like Cooper, you got a
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: different argument, but just about everybody's done a really good job.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: And Ryan Day, one could argue, done a really good job.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Yet all of us understand why they feel the way
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: they feel.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, it's not as though
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: we watch the Ryan Day stuff and.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: We're like, yo, man, they're being ridiculous. No, no, no.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think they are.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: Right. Which is why, why are you, what's there to
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: still do? That man is 47 years old and it's
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: never going to get any better.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: Than it is right now. That's like Dabo. Dabo, I'm
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: sure Dabo would love to quit.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: But he's 56 years old.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: He still was the coach. Yeah. Like, what do you do?
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: What do you do? But, no, I felt like those
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: programs are mirror images of each other in a lot
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: of ways in terms of what it is that can
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: stop them from achieving a certain ceiling. And I get
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: it also. Our players are better than your players. Why
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: don't we just keep this simple? You know?
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: But... I don't think you go through everything you go
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: through if you're Texas to get Arch to call games
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: like that one was called. And I don't think that
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: you get all these dudes that Ohio State has to
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: consistently kick field goals.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: It just can't be that.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: And then Sark acting like a jerk at the end
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: of the game. I thought that was a little whack. Why?
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for those who don't know, they couldn't.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: Get Sark on the halftime interview because they had some
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: technical difficulties. And I believe that that was a great
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: inconvenience to him. You saw him running into the tunnel
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: to go hurry up and get there and talk. ESPN was,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the words I was going to say.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: They apologized a lot. Yeah.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: Right? Profusely apologized.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going for, but I almost said profusive. Yes.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: And I felt like that was a recipe for ridicule.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: But yes, yes, there was profuse apology in that moment.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: And then at the end of the game, they come
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: to interview him, and he just goes, Texas fight, hook him,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: and then runs away. Hey, look, man, I think them
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: interviews are stupid, too. But come on, man, he was
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: just being a jerk. He was just being a jerk.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: And you're not good enough at this to act like that.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Like, you can't be a consistent underachiever and act like that.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Because I will say this. I know who wouldn't have
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: done that.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Mack Brown.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: He'd have put on a big-ass shit-eating grin.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: He'd have been like, oh, Holly Brown.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: What a great performance by these young men. Right.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Leader said all the right stuff. At least Matt can
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: make you feel good.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: This is why you come to Texas while we are there.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Sark. Anyway, both of y'all better win the rest of
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: y'all games. I recommend it. Football is finally back and
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: New users who sign up will get.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: $ 150 in lineups if you win your first.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: $ 5 lineup. That's right.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: If you win your first $ 5 lineup, you'll get $ 150
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: in lineups.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: And now, PrizePix is available nationwide. So what are you
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: waiting for?
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Lock in for kickoff, because everyone and everything is on PrizePix.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: What am I on this season? Well, you know, my
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: former narcotic. They're trotting out Tua and Michael Pennix this season.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So if you can keep them out of your lineup,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: It's probably the smart play. PrizePix is going crazy with
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the deals to start the football season, giving users a
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: new promo every day during Stack September. Make sure to
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: sign up now for guaranteed picks every Monday along with
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: profit boosts and daily discounts throughout the month. Plus, the
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: app is simple to use. You just pick two to
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: six players, then pick more or less on their projected
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: stats like pass yards, rush yards, and fantasy scores. It's
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: the best way to get more locked in on game day.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: You can make all the picks you want across any
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: sport all in the same app. Download the app today
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: and use code BOMANI to get $ 150 instantly in lineups
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: if you win your.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: First $ 5 lineup.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Again, download the app today and use code BOMANI to
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: get $ 150 instantly in lineups if you win your first
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: $ 5 lineup.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Prize picks run your game. Okay, Ryan, talk about this.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Don't like to get into what I would term media criticism.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're about to do... I don't think
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: this counts as media criticism.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is something a bit larger and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I think is important. Full disclosure, I guess for people
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: who know, I worked for ESPN for the better part
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: of like 20 years.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: At a point. Okay.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Um... I always felt when I worked there that the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: idea that the place had some sort of political agenda
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: was a bit overstated, no matter what direction people talked
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: about with that political agenda. And I guess to a degree,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: if you're talking about it in the context of right
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: versus left, I would still say that that's the case,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: particularly based on what it is that I want to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: discuss right now, which is the, what is it, Protect
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: College Sports Act?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Is that what it's called?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: So... For those of you who've been paying attention, it's
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit chaotic in college sports.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: There basically are no rules. Why are there no rules?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Well, people started suing, and we basically found out that
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: every rule that college sports ever had was against the law. So,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you know, things have been up in the air trying
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on. It's hectic.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I think that most people would argue that the current
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: state of affairs in college football is unsustainable. I do
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: agree with the people who think it's going too far
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: to say that college sports are dying. But I would
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: also say, on the other hand, that we cannot use
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: as the only metric of the life of college sports.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: television ratings or how much money people are making or
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. This stuff exists for cultural reasons, largely.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And I do think those things are somewhat imperiled by
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: what the current state.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Of things is. That being said, I.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Also don't believe that if the only way to maintain
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the essence of this sport or this whole world of
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: college sports is to do things that work to the
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: detriment of the players, then the whole thing does have
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to die, right? It would be a net loss for
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: my life. It would be a net loss for a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: lot of people. But if what is needed to keep
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: this thing alive is to do wrong by the young
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: men and women who literally risk their lives and bodies
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to participate, then the thing probably should burn down and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: maybe we start over.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: That I firmly believe. Okay. The Protect College Sports Act is.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: The biggest point that I can make to you about it,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: because I understand it, but I'm not a scholar on
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: this matter, so I don't want to get too far
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: over my skis and trying to tell you what it is.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The biggest point that I think that you need to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: know and understand and why I stand in opposition to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it is that it would effectively eliminate the ability for
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: players to collectively bargain with And by removing antitrust exemptions,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it takes away the greatest leverage that players have had
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to enact any change to give them anything.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Out of these games, right?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Once you give this whole thing an antitrust exemption, you
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: basically say you're not obligated to play fair when it
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: comes to the players. The other thing to keep in
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: mind that I think is very important is that the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: protect college sports act would come with a cap on
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: how much players could be paid and if you go
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: over that cap in paying players this is no longer
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: an lol ncaa violation it's now a federal crime So
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: it's one thing when you got the NCAA and their
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: crew of mall cops coming for you.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: It's another thing when it's the FBI.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So like we are talking about a hard cap that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: interferes with the player's ability to earn. Yet nobody has
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: ever thought to do this with coaches because that just
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be right. It is only the mobility of players
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: that they find to be problematic.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: And for what it's worth, I do.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Think the mobility of players is different than the mobility
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: of coaches. Right.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: However, that is what.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: The Protect College Sports Act does that I particularly find
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to be problematic and is specifically why I personally.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Oppose it, right?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it's a bipartisan opposition to it also.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: What is interesting though, I want to be one thing
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: very clear.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Under the Protect College Sports Act, the players would forever be...
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The previous act, the SCORE Act, the players would always
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: be non-employees. This one, it's neutral about employment, but there
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: would be an antitrust exemption, which again, blocks collective bargaining,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: which again, takes all power away from players. You know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that's where my issue comes up with what this is.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But as I said, there's bipartisan opposition to this. Like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: far right wing, like what is the American Economic Liberty Project?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: They're opposed to this.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like some Heritage Foundation stuff I've ever
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: heard in my life.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, it does, right?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: However, there's obviously a lot of right-wing support for this.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: The opposition and the support of bipartisan, which is weird.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I realize it was a really clunky way of me
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: saying all of that. I stopped and went back a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: few times. Sorry about that, y'all. Bottom line, bipartisan for...
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: bipartisan against, which is why it's really interesting to see
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: whether or not this is going to go through.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: We don't get a lot of these anymore.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right, right, right. And you know why?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: It's because this game doesn't make any fucking sense.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And that the interest in the things that people like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: about them are not really rational. It's not ideological. The
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: idea of paying players, that used to be ideological. That
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: used to be very much so correlated to how people
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: felt about civil rights.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: There's been economic, I mean, academic studies on that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Now you wind up in a case where on this act,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Byron Donald, as opposed to it, the Congressional Black Caucus
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: with the.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: SCORE Act, was in support of it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Now the CBC is opposed to it, as is the NCAA,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: because they are trying to use that as leverage for
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: their cause when it comes.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: To voting rights.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: But the folks at the CBC, for whatever reason, were
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: perfectly willing to sacrifice these young men, even though this
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: seems very obviously to be an issue where liberals would
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: be very much aligned with the laborers.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: One would think.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: But I just don't think that this is a world
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that people properly understand.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: We saw this in many cases where when I talk
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: about this with North Carolina, my guy, Justice Bob Orr,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: formerly of the North Carolina Supreme Court, had never really
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: paid attention to the NCAA stuff. Bob's a conservative guy,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: not a Trump conservative guy, but a conservative guy. Bob
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: had never really paid attention to the NCAA stuff until
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Carolina got in trouble.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: And then he got in there and was like, yo,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: this is crazy.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: This doesn't make any sense at all. Right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Whenever you try to explain this to someone from not
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: from this country.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Always say it makes no sense.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It just goes completely outside or people from this country
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: who just don't pay attention.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? They don't get paid. At least
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: that's what it used to be. You know, all of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: this goes around.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. So bipartisan for bipartisan against ESPN. has spent this
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: college football season on game day shilling for the Protect
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: College Sports Act. The ethics of this are murky.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: They're not even murky.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I think the ethics of it are pretty clear and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: they're on the wrong side of it. And the reason
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: for that is the trade org that they are a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: part of is actively lobbying Congress on behalf of this act.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And then one week you get it out there and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban gets up and does the whole, you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: does his whole spiel.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: In support of it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And then you come back the next week and Ted
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Cruz and man, who's amazing piece of irony, roundly disliked,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: but is paid to win popularity contests.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And he's very good at winning popularity contests.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And people are like, well, they just voted for
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: his politics, but shit, he had to.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Beat out some of the other ones to get there. Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I know somebody that went to college with Ted Cruz.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: People have hated him since then.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Universally.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: He's getting booed on game day, and it doesn't faze
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: him at all.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That shit happens all the time.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Like, he looked like somebody from Chicago, but it's 50 degrees. Like, no,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I don't need no jacket. What are you talking about?
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: This is just another day for me.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, every day, baby. This happens all the time.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And so Cruz is on television shilling for this act. Again,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: an act that the network itself is lobbying for. What? Like,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: we're seeing all these commercials, right? They run it, you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: PSA is running. We're now seeing the coaches really get
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: behind it. Deion Sanders, that guy, he's a, I used
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to call it politics, but now I'm for the preserve, protect.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: College sports act.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: You're working in opposition of your players. Nick Saban, who
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I did not think of as this type, actively working
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: in opposition of the players. With your understanding of where
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they come from and everything else and the work that
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: they put in, you're actively working in opposition of the players.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And a big part of that is the players have
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: so little leverage and ability to speak for themselves in
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: this case. As is always the case when it comes
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: to these matters, there is no place where the players
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: get to sit down and be taken seriously when it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: time to talk about this. It just doesn't happen, right?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But for the network, not to present this as there
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: are arguments on both sides, right? Because I don't think
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the average fan understands what this is. I'm not sure
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the average fan cares. I do think the average fan
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: cares about the future of the game or the future
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of college sports. And so when you have somebody saying,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: we're here to save the day, people are like, hell yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: save the day, we need that. without giving much consideration
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to how they also might be ruining the day at
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the same time of what this matter is. You can't
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: let somebody just get up and shill for this without
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: giving something on the other side.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: It's completely wrong, completely wrong.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: And then after seeing that in the morning, I'm watching
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Texas-Ohio State, and for those of you who don't know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I used to root for Texas, and then I stopped.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't even because of all that fucking losing
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: that they did for like 15 years. No, it was
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: because of that damn song, right? Black people on campus,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: black people around the team, like, hey, man, we find
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the eyes of Texas to be offensive because of the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: history behind the song.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: We'd like you to stop, okay? And in 2020, the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: players there.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Asked for a lot of stuff when everybody was asking
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: for stuff in 2020 that summer, but they didn't ask
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for nothing really about their own conditions. One of the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: things they asked for was, hey, man, can we chill
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: out on this song? And that is where the white
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: man put his foot down on that one. Many of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: us believe that's a big part of why Tom Herman
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: got fired because when the players didn't want to stand
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: for Isaac Texas, he stood with the players.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And he was out of there. I mean, I want
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: to say they fired him after a nine and three year.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Okay. Steve Sarkeesian got that job and at the opening
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: press conference was like, yes, we're going to stand for
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the eyes of Texas. Like that was very clearly a
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: prerequisite to getting that job that that damn song was
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: so important to them, regardless of somebody being like, yo, man,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: this don't really work for us. That they would run
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a coach out for it and make somebody stand there
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: behind it. Okay.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Like it was that big of a deal, but this
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: was in the air.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And I guess people don't really talk about it that
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: much anymore because But I need to know why it
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: is that ESPN thought that it was necessary, number one,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to play the national anthem.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I found that to be unnecessary, but okay, I get it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: It's 9-11 weekend.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But then right after that, the eyes of Texas. Like
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: with a scroll with the lyrics. And the lyrics are
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: not offensive on their face, just to be clear, right?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But why are you doing this? Like for me, I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: was furious because it was my reminder. Why I had
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: to get off of this was I can't forget why
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I'm mad because it comes up every time you score.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And we have an understanding that this is the issue
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: around that song. You don't have to put that on television.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: My guess, Texas wants it on television. They want that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: as part of the experience. You still don't have to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: do this, right? And so it just felt, and I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: guess that's not a political issue, that song, and maybe
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that's somewhat separate. But, you know, for those of us
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: who live through the stick to sports era, Ted Cruz
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: on your show is not sticking to sports, even if
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Ted Cruz is talking about sports. It's just not. It's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: not what it is. But this is the politics of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: sports when you have crews out there. You're making it
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: very clear that that's what it is. And you are
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: making it very clear that you are pushing a legitimate
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: political agenda.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right before this comes up for a vote.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: And it could go either way.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Like, they've been making all kinds of tweaks and trades
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and everything else that you need to have. Like, there
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: are serious consequences. to what ESPN chose to do. The
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: second thing about the song, that just got on my nerves.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: The thing about the bill legitimately offends my sensibilities. And
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I think it should probably offend yours too. Like what
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: they did was flatly wrong. And it is possible that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it will contribute to limiting the ability of players to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: cash in at their chance to cash in in this life.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I think those are pretty dire consequences, and I think
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that there should be a loud uproar about that. But hey, man,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: on The Right Time. We're going to think about doing
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: these on Sundays. We do full shows four days a week.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Ryan Brumley handling everything behind the scenes.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Hit our voicemail line, 323-596-7767. Remember, follow The Right Time. Subscribe, like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: rate us, review us. Give us five stars. You only
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a hater. We'll talk to you guys in a couple
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: of days.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Take it easy.