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NFL Award Predictions & Report Cards for each NFL teams! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: ninety of the so called sports analysts. Josh, how you doing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You may want to ask Josh on that.
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  Speaker 2: He did not dunk for Matt Bonner yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: The so called generational guy got dunked on. I don't
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  Speaker 1: we do a weekly reaction as far as all the
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  Speaker 1: games that happen, but it's towards the end of the season,
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  Speaker 1: there was only some games that actually mattered. So what
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do instead is we're gonna be the teachers.
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  Speaker 1: In this case, we're giving out report cards and as
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  Speaker 1: far as the grades for every team in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: So first we'll start off with the NFC, So the Bucks, Saints, Falcons,
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  Speaker 1: and Panthers. So, did you have a certain criteria for
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  Speaker 1: yours or or just grades on how the season wins.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm kind of just think I think I'm just
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  Speaker 2: basing it off where I pretty get that they would
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  Speaker 2: be at the beginning of the season, so or and
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  Speaker 2: just like or like if that in my mind changed
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  Speaker 2: throughout the season, how they like kept up with where
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  Speaker 2: they were going or if they kept going down, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so just basing it off that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, me too. I did the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: just expectations. But all right, do you want to start
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  Speaker 1: it off with your grades?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. For the Saints, I think I'm gonna give them
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  Speaker 2: around like an F. I don't know. I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like I at the beginning of the season, I did
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  Speaker 2: have them finishing exactly last in the division, and they
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  Speaker 2: ended up finishing last in the division, So I guess
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  Speaker 2: with that being a I don't know they did they
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  Speaker 2: did exactly what I said they were gonna do, so
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  Speaker 2: but no, I just feel like giving them that grade
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  Speaker 2: just amounts. It's just based off all that they have
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  Speaker 2: and like the older veterans and even but there's really
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  Speaker 2: no direction there. So I just think this is this
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  Speaker 2: is the CREG grading for them to be where right
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  Speaker 2: where they are in last place in the division. As
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  Speaker 2: far as the Panthers, I think at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the season I would have given it like a like
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  Speaker 2: around a D or an F, but I think I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna give them around a C to how they finished
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  Speaker 2: the season this year. I just think that the how
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Young after coming back from from getting benched and
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  Speaker 2: the way he's played since then. I mean, you you
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  Speaker 2: sent me the stat so I'll let you say and
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  Speaker 2: when you when you when it's your turn to talk
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  Speaker 2: about it. But you know, the way Bryce Young finished
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  Speaker 2: the season, I just think that there was some positive there.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think that this defense made the games
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  Speaker 2: pretty interesting towards the end of the season. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a lot that they could build off of
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  Speaker 2: going into next season when they when they actually have
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  Speaker 2: a first round pick and they can bring in some
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  Speaker 2: players that can that can add to this team. I
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  Speaker 2: think they may improve just a little bit more. And
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  Speaker 2: so that's why I'm give them around like a C.
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  Speaker 2: As far as the Falcons, I think I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 2: them a D minus. I think I just think the
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  Speaker 2: expectations coming into the season with the Kirk Cousins being
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  Speaker 2: there or just short lived. I don't. I think we're
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  Speaker 2: still waiting to see the how Kyle Pitch was going
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  Speaker 2: to translate, how Drake Linnon was going to translate translate.
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  Speaker 2: It still seemed like they took a long time to
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  Speaker 2: get be John Robinson involved, even though yeah, like that
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  Speaker 2: was the main reason why he fired Arthur Smith is
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  Speaker 2: because you want to get be John Robinson involved, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they filed out that even though he
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  Speaker 2: had a good season. The defense they played great, but
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  Speaker 2: some games they lacked. Jesse Bates and Justin Simmons and A. D.
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  Speaker 2: Terrell did their thing, but everyone else has kind of
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  Speaker 2: left the question work. So I think the Falcons are
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  Speaker 2: gonna give them like a D minus. As far as
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  Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, I think I'm gonna give them around a
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  Speaker 2: B a B. I think injuries maybe have caught up
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  Speaker 2: to them a little bit with Chris Godwin Mike Evans
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  Speaker 2: when they both were out, so it kind of deraled
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  Speaker 2: those their season a little bit. But as far as
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  Speaker 2: the way they finished, I think that's what holds him
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  Speaker 2: around the B area because when Mike Evans came back
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  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfield also had what any other season
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  Speaker 2: might be an MVP season, and then and then Kate
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  Speaker 2: Awdens emergence and then James Millen's emergence both both made
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  Speaker 2: this team pretty interesting to watch, and they have been
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  Speaker 2: dealing with injuries in the secondary that and they've been
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  Speaker 2: would have win some games.
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  Speaker 3: So I think the Buccaneers are gonna get a BE
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  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So okay, I'm gonna start in reverse order with you.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Bucks here. I gave
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  Speaker 1: them an A minus and for much of the same reason
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  Speaker 1: that you were saying. I think I'm giving them the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt with those injuries, and I just
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  Speaker 1: think they were able to overcome adversity in them only
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  Speaker 1: losing one game the back half of the season, which
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  Speaker 1: we did call what like six seven weeks ago that
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  Speaker 1: the Bucks that are gonna win out and they could
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  Speaker 1: have arguably beat the Cowboys. So they're arguably the hottest
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  Speaker 1: team in the league right now. And all right, next one,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say the Panthers right here, So I had the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers finishing last. They still did finish the last place,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give them a B minus just because
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Young how he played to the end. And here's
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  Speaker 1: a stat that I wanted to bring up. So so
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a side by side. So three hund
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  Speaker 1: eighteen attempts two and seventy four total yards, nine total touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: eight interceptions, thirty six sacks. And then this other quarterback
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  Speaker 1: we're in nineteen attempts two and three and thirty five
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  Speaker 1: total yards, twenty total touchdowns, six interceptions, twenty two sacks.
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  Speaker 1: That first one was CJ. Stroud, that second one was
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Young. It shows you how much Bryce Young he developed.
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  Speaker 1: Even I was skeptical of Bryce Young even early in
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  Speaker 1: the season, but he's been proving me wrong as of late.
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  Speaker 1: And if he's that franchise quarterback, then they're gonna be good.
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  Speaker 1: Like you were saying, they have a bunch of salary cap,
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  Speaker 1: they have some draft picks where they could turn the
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  Speaker 1: season around. The Saints, I'm giving them a D plus.
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  Speaker 1: There's not much to go over. You pretty much brought
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  Speaker 1: that over. Pretty much. Just no direction on this team.
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  Speaker 1: The Falcons, I'm giving them a C minus because the
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  Speaker 1: beginning part it did look really good. They were six
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  Speaker 1: and three to start off the year. Then they just
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  Speaker 1: fell apart, mainly due to Kirk Cousins. Maybe if you
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  Speaker 1: had Michael Pennix in early, which we were calling for,
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  Speaker 1: then maybe they would have been in the playoffs and
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  Speaker 1: their grade could have changed. But all right, NFC West
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  Speaker 1: right here, which features the Niners, Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks, and
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  Speaker 1: the Rams. What are you great for them?
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  Speaker 2: I think for me, the forty nine ers is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be an F. I just think, uh, I understand that
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  Speaker 2: I pretty did. They may finish second in this division,
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  Speaker 2: but I still had to make in the playoffs, have a.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty high seed. But I just think they're burnt out.
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  Speaker 2: You could see it on the field that they just
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  Speaker 2: they're probably just mentally out of it. I think injuries
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  Speaker 2: caught up to them, especially with Brandon i Yuk early
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  Speaker 2: on in the season. There were certain games where they
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  Speaker 2: were in and they just blew it or they even
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  Speaker 2: got blown out. So yeah, the Niners there there. It
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  Speaker 2: was a very disappointing season for a team that we
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  Speaker 2: expected that a lot of people expect to be a
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender year in and year out, but this
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  Speaker 2: year they just didn't live up to expectations. So that's
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  Speaker 2: why I gonna give them an F. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of question marks around rock Perty right now,
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  Speaker 2: do you give him a contract? There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: question marks around the longevity of Deepot Samuel George Kittle,
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  Speaker 2: what decision Christian McCaffery even now, I feel like there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this because when you have two guys
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  Speaker 2: that can fill in Jordan Mason and i is at Gerande,
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  Speaker 2: who played both great football when he was out. Is
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  Speaker 2: there really a need to keep a run back that
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  Speaker 2: getting paid that much and getting this old with this
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  Speaker 2: these amount of injuries that have built up in his career,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, So I think there's and then even
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  Speaker 2: on his defensive side, they didn't live up to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the expectations. I'm gonna have to bring back up.
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  Speaker 2: I believe, why am I Why am I going blank?
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  Speaker 2: What's his name? Who?
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  Speaker 1: Drake green Law? There?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake green Law.
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  Speaker 2: Where they're gonna have to figure out whether they're going
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  Speaker 2: to sign him or let him walk because he is
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  Speaker 2: an honor restricted free agent. And then so it's there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things that the forty Niners have to answer,
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  Speaker 2: and I just think this season didn't help them out
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  Speaker 2: with any of those. So I just think it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be an f for me. As far as the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna give it around a sea. I
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  Speaker 2: think we had a lot of expectations for this offense
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  Speaker 2: without but his the office has never lived up to
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  Speaker 2: what I feel like what we thought it should be,
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  Speaker 2: especially with Marvin Harrison junior. We talked about a lot
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  Speaker 2: of certain route that they have him running, or a
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  Speaker 2: lot of routes you give to a true X receiver
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  Speaker 2: when Marvin Harrison is really just a complete receiver all around.
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  Speaker 2: He could do it all, and they really not didn't
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  Speaker 2: get him going until basically the last game of the season.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, last year gave last team games with the
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  Speaker 2: last two games of the season and it's like, why
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  Speaker 2: were you doing this before? And then TREMC Brad was
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  Speaker 2: was a bright spot in this team. I think we're
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  Speaker 2: from game in and game out. Kyler Murray did struggle.
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  Speaker 2: James Connor, you know, you're know what you're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: from James Connor just consistent football. So there's not really
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  Speaker 2: much to go off of there. His defense still has
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  Speaker 2: a lot of questions marks Outside of Buddha Baker, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like, I think there has a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 2: that needs to be answered. So I'm gonna go with
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  Speaker 2: that with the C grade for me, and as far
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  Speaker 2: as the Seahawks, I think I think we'll go with
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  Speaker 2: a B minus. I think we both agree that there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing that wows you on this team. It's just that
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  Speaker 2: they can play consistent football. And that's really what we
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  Speaker 2: got this year is that they were They weren't really
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  Speaker 2: a different team game in that game out.
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  Speaker 3: They were doing the same things every game.
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  Speaker 2: And I just think Kenneth Walker, I think there's some
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  Speaker 2: things like Zach Sharperney has to get more involved. They're
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  Speaker 2: transitioning into jsn's role as a number one receiver from
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  Speaker 2: DK Metcalf happened a little too late. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: entire a Locke, it's only getting older. I think the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback situation is really what they're gonna have to answer
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  Speaker 2: because I don't think Geno Smith is the answer. He's
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  Speaker 2: only the fill in for the answer. And I think
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  Speaker 2: this the is young and they're still building, So I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm gonna give them around that that B minus area.
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  Speaker 2: As far as the Rams, I THINK'N give them the
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  Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt based off injury on offense from
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  Speaker 2: Cooper cup and uh and Pukkua for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think they both had they had to deal with
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  Speaker 2: those type of things, So I think I'm gon give
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  Speaker 2: them like a B plus in the situation on how
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  Speaker 2: they finished the season because they had to fight their
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  Speaker 2: way back into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: They were I.
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  Speaker 2: Believe they were what three and.
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  Speaker 1: There was three and six, Yes, three.
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  Speaker 2: And six at one point. So the way they battle
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  Speaker 2: back in the season and give them a B plus.
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  Speaker 2: This defense is young, but they're playing good with Brandon
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  Speaker 2: Fisk and Jared First, Kobe Turner. That young secondary has
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  Speaker 2: been balling a little bit. And the offense, I think
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  Speaker 2: when they're all healthy, we know what they are. And
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  Speaker 2: when they were all together, they played great football. So
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  Speaker 2: I'll give them would be plus. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So with the Niners, I completely agree with you here.
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  Speaker 1: That's if it's one of the teams that we had
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  Speaker 1: high expectations for where it's like, all right, if they
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  Speaker 1: don't make the divisional round of the playoffs, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be nothing more than a failure right here, And they're
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  Speaker 1: one of the most disappointing. Obviously we're going to feature
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  Speaker 1: some more. I think you guys kind of figured out
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  Speaker 1: these other ones are going to be. But yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: clear disappointment. And now you're in the crossroads right here
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  Speaker 1: as far as do you bring back Kyle Shanahan, Brock
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  Speaker 1: Purty like you were saying, does he get resigned? Ayuk,
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  Speaker 1: He's coming off an injury after getting a big contract,
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  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of decisions you have to make.
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  Speaker 1: Trent Williams, we don't even know if he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be back because he's damn near forty years old, so
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  Speaker 1: who knows what direction they're going to go. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this was definitely the last year where they had a
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  Speaker 1: chance to make a championship run in my opinion, so
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  Speaker 1: definitely underwhelming Cardinals. I'm giving them a C plus here
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  Speaker 1: because I know we talked about the offense being this
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  Speaker 1: high power team, but this defense. They showed games where
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  Speaker 1: they were actually a top fifteen defense compared to last
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  Speaker 1: year where they were just terrible. So you're seeing improvements
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying to go more to a balanced approach
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  Speaker 1: of football, and I think that's kind of why they
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  Speaker 1: struggled because Kyler Murray, he's used to just slinging it
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  Speaker 1: all across the yard. But I think next year is
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  Speaker 1: building into something good. Finishing eight to nine in the
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  Speaker 1: year is pretty damn good, So you're only two games
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  Speaker 1: out from making the playoffs. But Seattle or these last two,
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  Speaker 1: I'm right here with you, Seattle. I give him a
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  Speaker 1: B so Gino Smith, he's a bridge quarterback. He's a
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  Speaker 1: bridge quarterback, that's all he is. I'm not worried about
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald on the defense. This defense is going to
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  Speaker 1: be good these next three four years as long as
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  Speaker 1: he's there and the weapons are there. It's just as
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  Speaker 1: far as your quarterback's going to hold you back. Whenever
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  Speaker 1: you have Kyler, Murray, Matt Stafford, and even Brock Purty,
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  Speaker 1: I'd take all three of those quarterbacks over Geno Smith
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion. I would, honestly, and not that Geno
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  Speaker 1: Smith's a bad quarterback. It's just compared to in this
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  Speaker 1: division and now the NFC, where all these quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 1: getting a lot better, is kind of starting to hold
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  Speaker 1: you back, and you're starting to see that with the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving them a B plus as well. I just
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  Speaker 1: think it's a little bit concerning. Their defense is playing
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  Speaker 1: great for their expectations before the year, but their offense
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  Speaker 1: is underwhelming. If their offense was normal, they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: had to be three and six and gone this crazy
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  Speaker 1: win streak in order to make the playoffs. They would
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  Speaker 1: have easily had twelve thirteen wins in the season. I
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  Speaker 1: know Cooper cup pooking a coup they were out, but
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  Speaker 1: still Matt Stafford, he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Sean McVay,
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  Speaker 1: he's one of the most discussed as far as best
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  Speaker 1: offensive mines in the league. So hopefully they could turn
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  Speaker 1: around in the playoffs. We're not gonna talk about predictions yet,
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  Speaker 1: but all right, NFC East right here, So Eagles, Cowboys, Giants,
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  Speaker 1: and Commanders. Go ahead, Josh.
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  Speaker 2: I think for the Giants, I think I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 2: give them a seat, like right in the middle. I
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  Speaker 2: just think we didn't there was no expectations for the
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  Speaker 2: Giants to be anything great. I think we all understand
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  Speaker 2: who Daniel Jones is. But I think what they can
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  Speaker 2: be proud of is the is the rookies, like Tyrone, Tracy,
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  Speaker 2: elite neighbors, how they played this season. It's a lot
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  Speaker 2: that they can look at and be like, Okay, we
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  Speaker 2: have some pieces here that we can build with Wandoll
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  Speaker 2: Robinson is still a solid piece that they have. Darius
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know they're going to bring him back,
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  Speaker 2: but they these guys are able to play football. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's just a matter of building offensive line in
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback for them and maybe bringing in one extra piece,
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  Speaker 2: of course. And then on the defensive side, I think
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  Speaker 2: there was some There was some There was some early
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  Speaker 2: spot early bride spots in the season, I think on
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  Speaker 2: the defensive side, with especially on that front seven. You
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  Speaker 2: know there was Kevin Thibodeau'brian Burns, Dexter Lawrence. Those three
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  Speaker 2: guys were really bringing some pressures to the quarterback, and I.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Think that was something good.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: But after a while you just kind of get burnt
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: out from losing football games, so I'm not gonna really
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: like put too much on them. So I think right
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: in the middle for the Giants of the C. For
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys, though, I think it's it's it's an F.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's a big F. I think
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: we know what they have. I think there was a
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: failure to get certain guys involved early on, like a
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Rico Dawdle and trying to hold on to Iseckey Elliott
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: a little too long. I think Dak Prescott's injury wasn't happened,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: happened at the worst time it possibly could happen, but
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: they still started winning games. It's still was this defense
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: was dealing with injuries as well to basically everybody, Darn Blenn,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Treyvon Daks, De Marcus Lawrence, Michael park No, Michael Parkerson's
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: he was playing hurt. He was playing hurt. And then
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I just think that there's a lot there that the
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Cowboys left on the table for everybody.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I think. I think there was high expectations like there
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: are every season, and this was the year they definitely
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: did not live up to them. And I think next
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: this season is the season where they're gonna have to
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: look at the window, look at the mirror and see like,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: all right, what do we gotta change? And I think
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of changes for the Cowboys
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: going into this season. As far as the Commanders, I
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: think this is a A plus.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: I think this is a complete a plus for the
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Washington Commanders.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Twelve and five in the first year with Jayden Daniels,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: and really because of Jayden Daniels, I think, and of
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: course twelve plus carries Brian Robinson that he doesn't get
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: better than that.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a stat that's the only field one season.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Cold plus carries twelve wins exactly.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: It's not it's not ironic. And yeah, and you know
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: some of the games that he missed, you lose. Some
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: of the games he doesn't get twelve carries, you lose
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: only one game a'all lost this season where he had
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: twelve plus carries, and that was versus Saquon Barkley.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: So let's just let's just.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Let's not harp on that too much of the of
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: how great Brian Robinson is, because we can glaze all
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: we want every day, but it's okay. Jaden Daniels. Jaden
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Daniels has really brought this team back to life. Scary Terry.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: It's like a whole nother receiver with him on the
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: field and the defense, they really played really good football,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: even though they were I really thought they would even
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: take a step back with a couple of guys, But
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: they also brought in a couple of guys from the
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Cowboys how to be ironic with it. So I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: a plus for the Commanders all the way through. I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: don't think there's anything really bad you can say about
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: how this season ended.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: As far as the Eagles.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I think this is also an a plus for how
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the Eagles that played this season I think Saquon Barkley
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: was definitely everything they wanted him to be and more. A. J.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Brown was played injured at the beginning of the season,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: but when he came back, there wasn't really a bad
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: game that he had. Even though there was those problems
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: hypothetically with Jalen Hurts, they still played great football together.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Davonta Smith I think easily had his best season of
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: his career. I think in the games that he did
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: play this defense, young but good. You know, Cooper Degen,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Kenyon Mitchell was a bright spot for this team. Jayalen
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Carter's really coming into his own, Nolan Smith was very productive,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: and just a lot of the other guys. Yes, they're
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: just they just have a good teams all the way
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: around the Eagles and they're the reason why they're forcing
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: in three.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: So I think that's an A plus for me.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: So two A plus teams and two and a team
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: that you know we expected and a team that lived
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: under for this division. I think that's that. I think
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: that's pretty cool, especially for the Eagles and Commanders. A
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: plus is all around.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: So I just want to say Josh and I before,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: like usually when we do notes, we don't. We don't
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: give our grades out to each other like we talk
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: about like m v P, like we talked about our awards,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: but we don't give out grades. I have the exact
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: spot on grades for you with the NFC East and
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: we do this every single time we do grades. It
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: it never fails. But like we're just so, we're just so,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: We're just connected.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: It was so connected with the universe.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Eagles commanders A plus for much the same
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: reason that you said, dan Quinn. He turned this team
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: around completely and it was an adult somebody who knows
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: how to win playoff games. Make the playoffs, dan Quinn
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and Jaden bowl super Bowls, not Super Bowls, playoffs. He
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: could get you into the dance. That doesn't mean you're
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: going to dance. That's all that. That's all he's saying.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: But Jayden Daniels was an absolute revelation here. Easily one
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks so far this year and arguably
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: in top ten conversation. I know we said that last
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: year with CJ. Stroud, but as of this year, how
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: he played this year, he was a top ten quarterback.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Changing list, changing list, it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Always always changes. And then Eagles, like you were saying,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Sakuon Barkley, damn near broke the record. We kind of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: knew what this offense was gonna do. But this defense,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: they were one of the worst defenses in the league,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and they made a complete one to eighty. Right these linebackers,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: this secondary right here, now, Darius Slay, he doesn't have
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to be that all pro corner. He has to just
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: be a good corner as he's getting older. Because you
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: have Kenya Mitchell, Cooper, Degen Reid Blank and Ship c J. Gardner, Johnson.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You have those guys there, and Jalen Carter that's the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: guy that stepped out this year because last year he
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he was kind of if he was kind of so so, but.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: He was also dealing with a lot of things too.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very true.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: It was easy for a rookie to go in after
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: dealing what he dealt with.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Doing but yeah, but still, like you know, that's a
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: lot of pressure.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like they were saying, because, yeah, Jalen Carter,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he was projected to be the number one overall pick
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and he's showing why. He's showing why. He what he
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: felt to number nine was.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Even Noan Smith. Yeah, He was the ninth highest graded
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: player in the entire draft. Last Oh it was the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: last pick. It was.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: It was the last pick of the first round. Yeah,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: but yeah know those two teams they get an A plus
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Giants they get to see right on the dot. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's just mainly mylik neighbors in the front
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: seven and everybody else. Honestly, they're trash. Brian Dable. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: like Brian Dable, I like the GM I like what
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: they're building. Y'all have to throw it overall.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Pick so one of them is gonna be gone though.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So well, they said they're retaining them.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: They they are. I don't know why.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Like two days ago they were like I know.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: They they did say they're if you But then I think.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: You got to bring in a quarterback for Brian Dave
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: well before you make a final decision, like, no, you
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: gotta get him an actual quarterback.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: You can throw the thing bro.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Well, look look what Drew Locke did. Look what Drew
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Locke did the last.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Ye would you sell Sanders if you're the Giants?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Personally me, I would? I would?
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I would would?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Or would you? Like I feel like Jackson Dart was
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: like the Molik neighbors in Wanda would just go with
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, and.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brian, you know, I knew once these once
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: these tests start happening, and like you know how the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Zach Wilson rises, Will Levis rises, Jackson Dart's gonna go crazy.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart's gonna right. And he's a better quarterback than
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the two I think, so.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he definitely has a lot more arm telling.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: He's you know, who's somebody who's been rising up the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Penn State quarterback Drew Aller. So he may not declare
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: for the draft. They're saying. If he declares, he's gonna
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: be a top three pick. I don't know. I don't
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: see it. But the Giants they have the third overall pick,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: so it's Tennessee Cleveland Giants. They all need quarterbacks. So
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, but you'll have to give up
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a lot for one of those two picks to get
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to get Cam Moore to or shoulder. Honestly, you would
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: have to give up so much. But anyways, yeah, Cowboys,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: if I give him a Z a Z for the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: worst worst grade possible, I would that crist yeah Z
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: minus Z minus minus minus. Yeah know, all these injuries
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: kill them. As far as when there was pressure on
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: this team as far as expectations, and they needed to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: make a deep playoff run this year. That was the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: biggest thing said throughout the summer. They need to make
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a deep playoff run for these guys to be retained.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: And they completely fell at that first off started started
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: one in three, one and four on the season, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it was just underwhelming by by a Lambs side. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: it's just I've talked about it so much throughout the season.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: It's just there's not much to You're just beating a
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: dead horse at this point. So yeah, this is clearly
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: deserved and f one of the worst grades possible. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: all right, the NFC North right here, so three teams
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: made the playoffs here one of them did at the Bears, Vikings, Lions,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and Packers. I feel like there should be good grades
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: for this this division right here. What are your grades?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think for the Bears, I think I'm gonna give
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: them a seat. I think not entirely. It's not because
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: of Katle Williams. I think people are looking at the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: stats side beside with jenn and Daniels in your mind.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Will probably be changed a little bit.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think for him, I think he
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: played it, had a good rookie year. I think he
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: had to deal with with a lot of these lot
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: This offensive line really brought this team down a lot.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I think this defense at the beginning of the season
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: was bawling with Montes what Jalen Johnson. Both these guys
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: really had this had that defense clicking. They were holding
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: teams down. I just think after a while, you're like, oh,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: my offense needs to help us, you know, and like
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you get caught in certain situations that you don't want
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: to be in, especially field wise you're in Allen territory.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: It doesn't help as as far as like Keenan Allen,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Romo Donze. I think Keenan Allen Romo DNS had good
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: seasons for both for a rookie and for Keenan Allen,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: But for DJ Moore, I think there was a lot
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: left on the table. I think, yeah, that's just that's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: just a lot has to do with he's running the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: X routes and these other two guys are running to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: get open.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: So I think I think this.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: This offensive line, like I said, they didn't hold this
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: team back a lot and it cost them a lot
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: of games because there was a games where Kaleb Williams
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: did come back in the fourth quarter and lose, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: there was so many one possession games by this Bears team.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I think that I could have flipped the other way
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a couple of times. If some certain time issues weren't
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a problem, if certain play calling wasn't a problem, if
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: some just bonehead plays were made, I think this team
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: could have had a totally like at least an eight
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: win game, eight win season games. Yeah, eight win season.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So I think for me, I'm gonna give them a seed.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: As far as the Packers, I think I'm gonna give
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: them around a minus. I think for what they did
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: this season, I think to get into the playoffs fit
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: into eleven and six. I think that's that's probably right
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: where where everyone had them had them finishing was eleven
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and six. Jordan Love looked good. I think for certain
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: parts that I think you just need to go get
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: a number one. I think that's what you're searching for.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: It for him to get the ball to people, I
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: think instead of having over an array of people and
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: damn Krishna Watson tear probably towards so it's like I
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: don't understand how how he how his durability is just shot,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Like I think broes to take a season off, just
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: take a whole season off.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: But well, they were talking about in high school why
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you went to a D two school was because of injuries.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: He could have went earlier in the first round, but
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: due to injury, he went late in the first round.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: And now this is when he's playing, when he's like
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a Christian Watson peat. Christian Watson day is like really
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: good like that, like he's like I'm not saying he's
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: gonna be like insane top receiver, but he's definitely middle
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: of the pack, like middle, yeah, Like he's top fifteen.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I think he could be a top fifteen, top twenty
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: receiver if you were healthy.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, no, for sure all the time.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: But and then with potential, with potential, like he could
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: always become more. I just think his his one on
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: one catching is probably like like to be something that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: he struggles with. Besides that, I think I'll give him
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a minus. This defense played good Rashaun Gary and really
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: let the way Jayry Alexander is shut down, But by
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, he was really locking up
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: some dudes, and so yeah, I'm gonna give them a minus.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Vikings a plus. I just think a lot of us
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: really wrote them off at the beginning of the season.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I think the only bright spot that we really had
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: was gonna be Justin Jefferson because you know, he's Justin Jefferson.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: But I think the way Sam Darnold has played has
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: been nothing short of great. I think he's the most
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He's the comeback player of the year. I'm pretty sure
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: this season without me thinking of someone else. Jordan Addison
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: came along in the last couple of weeks. S t. J.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Hawkinson had a good transition from recovery this defense. But
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: with Dallas Turner and even a couple of the guys
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: that they have that they already had or brought in,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: this Vikings team really stepped up in a big way.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Kevin o'connells for sure probably the coach of the year
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: based off what he was able to do. As far
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: as Detroit Lions, I think I'm gonna give him a
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: eight plus, but not only a plus because they finished
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: fifteen to two, but a plus because with all the
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: injuries that they dealt with, you know, I think and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: still able to win games with this offense. We knew
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: what they were. I think they've used a lot of
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: their advantages with amonas Saint Brown and getting other people
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the ball they gave. Montgomery going down at the end
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: of the season hurts where they still were able to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: win games, and Jimior Gibbs has really stepped up this
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: defensive side. To talk about a unit that stepped up,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Malcolm Rodney has gone, Aiden Hutches and gone, Zach Pastell gone,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Carlton Davis injured, Brian Branch injured, Emmanuel Forbes injured, Like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: everyone's been injured on this defense point and miss multiple weeks.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just one week things they missed multiple weeks.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Alexandeloni finally came back. What did he saying is that
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: everyone wants to be a dog until you got to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: do dog shit.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: He post a picture of his arm just freaking stitched
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: up and like barely out of surgery, like rose back playing.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So I think I think this team they definitely was
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: what they've dealt with injury wise. Being an A plus
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: is nothing short of there's nothing it's like to under
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: understate it. I think for this team, and especially with
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: how they've had to win certain games. I think the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Lions team is an A plus this year.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, so going off your last two teams, they
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: deserve easily A pluses, the Lions and Vikings for two
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: different reasons. I think the Lions, we had all these
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: expectations for him, and somehow they exceeded the expectations for him.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to say like we didn't expect
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: them to not have thirteen fourteen wins, but like you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: were saying, all the injuries, all the stuff that they
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: went through and makes it it even better a plus
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: because you wouldn't expect this from all the injuries. If
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you would have said before the season, oh yeah, three
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: out of you or four of your top defensive players
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: they're going out, or David Montgomery he's gonna be out.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Some of your offensive line they're gonna miss some time,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you would be like, oh, yeah, well, they're probably gonna
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: have nine ten wins at most in the season just
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: due to injuries. I know they had fifteen wins roga
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: franchise record. But the Vikings, I think we both had
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: them last in the division for very good reasons here
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and I just think that Brian Flores, Kevin O'Connell. They
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: just did a coaching masterclass this year what they were
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: able to do with this team, And we didn't realize
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: how much talent they actually had, just just due to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: before the season and we looked at the quarterback too much,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And Sam Donald, he stepped up.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get a contract easily. The Packers, I'm gonna
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: give them a B minus just due to the fact, yes,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: we did expect them to make the playoffs, but I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: think Jordan Love, he was a little bit up and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: down this year, and they finished one to five in
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the division. So I just think they would have easily
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: had an A A minus if they would have won
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: some of those big time games against just even in
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: their in their division, like their only win in the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: division was against the Bears, which was which was a
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: missfield goal, so they could have easily finished oh to six,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So just beating those good teams right there, that's the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: only thing. But still a great season B minus. So
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: with the Bears, I'm giving them a D. So I
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: had higher expectations for him for the season. I expect
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: them to make the playoffs. Yeah, but there was seven
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: games where it was one possession games going into the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter and they were right there. They were. They
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: were four and two before that. Hell Mary before that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: hell Mary played by Jaden Daniels, and after that he
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: just went all downhill. After that, they could have beat
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: So there's the Lions, there's a Commanders, then there's the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Lions again. Then what's the other one? The Vikings they
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: had a close one to where they went to overtime.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all these games they were close, but they
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: just need to learn how to finish games. Caleb Williams
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: could have had a better season, but he did still
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: have a good season. If you look at all of
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: his stats versus first overall pick quarterbacks, it's easily the best.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: The only thing that doesn't match is the records. So
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I just think that Caleb Williams is getting over scrutinized
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: just due to the record, not necessarily for his play.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so is that all of them? Yeah? Okay,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I went all of them? My bad. I kind of
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: had a brain fog right there. But all right, AFC
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: teams right here, AFC South, Texans, Titans, Jags, and Colts.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Kind of an underwhelming division right here? What are you
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: great for this.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: One to the Titans.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna give them a round a D
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: minus a D. I just think I had a little
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: bit more expectations coming into the season. I think I
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: predict that they would definitely not they wouldn't be in
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: contention and win the division. But I definitely saw them
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: doing a little bit better. I had to pay expectations
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: for Will Levis coming into the season based off of
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: how he finished the year last year. Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: At the beginning of the season, Tony Pollard ta J
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Spears like, this team looked like they were ready to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: kind of do a little something, not make the playoffs necessarily,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: but definitely be in contention for in a lot of games.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And this defense, I mean they lived up. I think
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the defense definitely lived up to expectations. Drell Casey Lugarius Sneed.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I think that defense played great football, but the offense
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: just turnovers.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I just think it all caught up.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: It was really turnovers, like really turnovers, because even at
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, they were in games like
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: there was games where we're like, oh, they have a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: chance at winning and then they just fall apart. When
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it matters the most. So I think that's why the Titans,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna give them that D minus. For me,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I think I'm sure not high expectations, but still some
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: expectations that weren't lived up too. As far as the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Jaguars f absolute as on the board, I definitely had
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to winning this division, I think, or second, I had
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: them second in the division, second, and I had them
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: second in this division making the playoffs, and Trevor Lawrence
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: not expect not living up to expectations, injuries, injuries, Christian
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Kirk not living up to expectations, Calvin Ruth, No, I'm
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: saying Calen Ruth, Christian Kirk, this defense with Josh Hayin Zallen,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Andre Cisco, a lot of other guys that they have
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: on this on this on that defense, nobody panned out.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I think Doug Peterson definitely underwhelmed, you know. I think
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: for him, we understand that he can win games, but
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: there's also those times where he doesn't win games. And
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I think this season definitely showed a lot of what
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: he his downfalls as a coach sometimes and there's a
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: reason why he's not going to be the coach next season.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I think the bright squat that they can look at
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: as an A plus only is Brian Thomas to Brian Bryan Thomas,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: is that he lived up to expectations and more for
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: his rookie season, especially being their first round pick. So
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's something that's good that they can build
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: off of it. Maybe him and Trevor Lawrence can get
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: going next season, because I honestly believe I don't know
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: how long they're going to deal with Trevor Lawrence, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to have to have a resurgence
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: of a year next season if he really wants to
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: be looking as a serious top quarterback in the league.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: As far as the Colts, I think for me, I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: didn't have really high expectations for the Colts coming into
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the season, So right here, I think' gon give him
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: around a C plus. It's only because missing the playoffs,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: ar having to bitch him, him still struggling when he
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: comes back. I think that's gonna hold his team back.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And I think we're seeing some disgruntled stuff in the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: locker room about Anthony Richardson. I don't know if you've
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: been seeing that stuff around Twitter or anything, like how
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the Forest Buckner was like, I took a contract to
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: stay here and play with Anthony Reachison because I believe
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: in him. So step up, bro, That's really what they're saying, Like,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: step up. I think Jonathan Taylor. I feel like Jonathan Taylor.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: We know his peak, but he has not been to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: his peak in the last couple of seasons.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Those last two games three.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, two we had. Last last three games we showed.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: He showed what he can do, but game in and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: game out, he's not being that guy. He's not that guy.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: So it's like the expectations that we have for him
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: aren't living up. I think Josh Downs opened this season
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: up very great. He kind of fell off a little bit.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Jr. Kind of went kind of was a
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: non existent year for Michael Pittman Junior. For really being honest,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: he didn't really live up to anything. This defense played
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: really bad football. I think this defense was not what
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: they used to be. We're used to them being one
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: of the top defenses and holding their teams within games,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: but so far this season they weren't that. So I
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: think for me, I think I'm gonna go with when
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I say a C minus, I think I'm gonna stick
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: with that ste minus great for me.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Texans a D.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I think the Texans get a D for what they for,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: what they actually lived up to, for what they actually
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: for what they actually played like this season.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I think injuries. Stephan Diggs, Nico Collins.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Nico Nico Collins played great this season, but Stephan Diggs
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: injuries never allowed him live to expectations. Take Dale definitely
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: didn't love up to expectations he had. He finally had
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: a good game and then it ended. It didn't It
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: was that was it. He didn't he got injured versus
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, for real, like he played tough grade, We're
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: waiting for that game. We're waiting for that game, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the game he gets injured out
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the season.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: So it's like de Tankdale didn't live up to expectations.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: C J. Stroud, I think definitely did not live up
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: to expectations what he expect him to be. Sophomore slump
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: was real this season. He got a little figured out,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: But I think he's good enough quarterbacks to the bus
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: back next season. But they still have the playoffs to
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: play and he could totally rewrite the entire season with
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the good playoffs. This defense, Will Anderson and Danielle Hunter
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: both played a great football. I think both together is
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: like one of the top tandems all time. I think statistically,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: if you look at it, you know how they're able
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: to pressure the quarterback and get to the quarterback. I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: know my boy Jalen Petree dish, he played great football
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: until he got hurt. We got Derek Seeley junior, he
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: played good. This defense was good really this entire season.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: It was just the offense that really couldn't get going.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: So for me, I'm gonna give him a D.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Texans right here, I guess I'm being
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit more lenient just because they made the playoffs.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I'm giving them a B minus here the Texans, but
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I think it could have easily been worse. I think
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: everything around the team was good. Joe Mixon, great acquisition,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs when he was there was good. But CJ.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Stroud held this team back so so much. And I
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: just think that this team they're expect to win twelve
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: thirteen games.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: C J.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Stroud expect to have an MVP year. But like you're
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: saying that sophomore slump. He kind of got figured out
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: but there's some film on him and as far as
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: how to attack him. And you still have Nico Collins,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: who's arguably, in both of our eyes, a top ten receiver,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: so you still have plenty of weapons. Dalton Schultz, Joe Mixon,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: and I think the biggest thing that people overlooked from
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: last year is that CJ. Stroud had, if not one of,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: maybe the best, but at bare minimum a top three
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: offensive line in the NFL, and this year it went
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: to middle of the pack, and you're seeing how much
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: an offensive line affects a young quarterback. So yeah, B
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: minus for this team. But as far as with the Titans,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I'm giving them a C minus because I had them
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: finishing last in the division, so not much to expect
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: will Levis. I thought he was going to be better,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: but still not much to take away the Jaguars, even
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: though I had them finish fishing third in the division,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: which they finished, i'd't expect them to have four wins.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence him going out, that sucks. Ryan Thomas he
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: is a bright spot, but Travis etn two. This defense
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: was not good at all other than Trevon Walker and
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: josh Heinez Allen. But other than that, there's three four
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: players from this team that you could take away that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: had good seasons. But other than that, this team is
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: really really bad right here, and they need to do
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: something in the offseason. With the Colts, I had them
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: finishing first in the division right here. I had Anthony
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Rigison being a breakout, breakout candidate and Tho some games
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: where he looked like that, but majority of those games
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it did not look like that. I think he still
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: does have potential, for sure, but I don't know if
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: it's that top end, top tier talent. I think he
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: could still be a good quarterback, but we'll see with
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: another year under Shane Steichen and Michael Pittman. Like you
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: were saying, he didn't, he didn't produce as much this season,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: but he had a disc in his back the entire
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: season or back injury. It was something along those lines,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: So I think he'll be better next year. Mitchell really
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: didn't get him involved, so not much to take away.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm giving him a C or C minus here. So
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: all right, now, let's go over your division right here,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: which is the Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers and Raiders here. I
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: think this is another division that should have good grades overall,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: So go ahead.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I think as far as the Raiders, I think I'm
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: gonna give them actually the worst, like a bad grade.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with like a let's go
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: with a D.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I feel like for me, I had a lot of
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: high but the majority didn't.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: But me and I had a lot of high expectations
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: for the Raiders just looking at the outside in how
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: they finished the season last year, how that defense is
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: playing Antonio Piers especially, But I think I don't think
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: it's unwarranted expectations that I had. I think the ways
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: of Mere White finished the season last year, he really
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: caught me like, maybe they're gonna have a run game
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: going DeVante Adams, Ka, Kobe Myers, brock Bauers. I mean,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: this team looked like they were ready, but not ready,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: but it looked like definitely they were ready to like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: play some good football. Yeah, and it has never happened.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I think Max Crosby was the only the right spot
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: on that defense. Jack Jones, you know, really wasn't a
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: game in game out that guy Tyree Wilson. We're still
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: looking for him. It's like there's so much on this
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: team that we expect for them to be good. It
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: just never panned out. That never panned out that way.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: So for me, I'm gonna give them around that D area.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: For the Broncos, I think eight. I think we're gonna
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: have to get them like a or as. I think
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: definitely me I'm a hater, but I think they did.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: They did play some good football this season. The defense
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: was bawling. I think they let the league in sacks
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a sacks or definitely pressures on the quarterback and without
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: really having a star a star on that defensive line,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: It's just a unit of guys. Patrick Surtain played great
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: football like he does, came in and game out. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: forget their names on the other qurnerbacks names, but that's
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: his Name's Yeah, they're playing ba baby le Bronco has
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: been playing good football. Bro Nicks was definitely a surprise.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I think we I think, okay, we expected him gonna
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: be a little infect be all right, but we didn't
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: thought it would be this good. With thirty one finishing
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: with thirty one touchdowns to a little bit of interceptions,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: he definitely kept up in some games. He gave the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Chiefs some problems and in that first game when the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: full Chiefs team was playing. So for me, I'm gonna
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: give them an A. As far as the Chargers, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: think I'm gona give them an A plus. I think
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: the Chargers the Chargers we thought, oh, they might struggle
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: a little bit. No, can he know, Kean Allen, Mike
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Williams is gone. This this offense completely rebuilt, and there's
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: no one really the same besides Justin Herbert. Everyone else
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: is brand new around him, and honestly, he did absolutely
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the best he possibly could do and it led to
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: it led to a lot of wins. John Harball definitely
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: had this team playing great football, especially defensively. I think
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: we saw a lot of good things. So I think
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: this hardest team for me is an A plus there.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: They look like they have a good future in store,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: especially with Lad McConkey. I do I do think they
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: need end. I know he had a couple of struggles
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: this year, but Quinn Johnston, I think for what he
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: was last year compared and coming into this year, there's
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: definitely games he could have had, bigger games, But there
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: were some games where he did have big games, and
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I think he is definitely starting not to figure out
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the NFL, but accumulated into his role into the Chargers team.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you have like fourteen for what eighty seven?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: This last game it was.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it was. And there was a couple of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: games before that in the season where he like showed
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: signs of like, oh this guy could be good. Even
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the game where he played bad where he dropped like
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: four balls, Dude, if he caught those footballs, it's a
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: whole different outcome. Yeah, it's the whole.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: He's the hardest part. Yeah, the hardest.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Part, Yeah, is getting open. I know this run game, Honestly, JK.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Dobbins was great this year of this offensive line. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: mean Joell, like Joel, I think for me, is gonna
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: get underrated entirely because he played on the offensive line.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: But if you're asking me who my rookie of the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Year is, I think I'm giving it to Joel, And
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I think, what, I can't do that because he's not
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: gonna win, so I don't have to give someone else
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: but Joal definitely, if they look at it fairly all
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: the way around, he's definitely top two Rookie of the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Year and the way that he protected her flying side.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: As far as the Chiefs, I'm gonna give it an a.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I think I think by the minus, I think because
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the close games that we did play, I think I think, Okay,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: so hear me out. I think they we dealt with
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: are valid. I think for she Rights having to figure
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: out how to play without him, I think Isaiah Pacheco's injury,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: we saw Jalen Watson's injury, Hollywood Brown's injury.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I think this team got stacked.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: It just all happened pretty much in the span of
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: like a short amount of time where this team had
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: to really figure out. And I understand that we had
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to deal with a lot of a lot of that,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: But the way that I think this team can play
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: when they're at their peak, and we did see them
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: those last two games versus the Stelers and versus Texans
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: at their peak what they could possibly be. And I
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: think that's scary for the rest of the league. And
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Jalen Watson is still going to come back for the playoffs,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: he has two weeks to rest. On top of that,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: it's going to add a whole other element to this
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: whole entire team. But for what they did do this season,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I understand people do say the one the one possession games.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I think that we had too many of those, but
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I think I think there was some times sometimes where
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Juwan Taylor, Wanya Moore is the tackles really held us
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: back in games. Multiple times there was time we got
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: to the red zone. All we needed was a fourth
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: and a third and two conversion, which became third and
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: twelve became certain things where were constantly behind the sticks.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: And these games should not even be close, because there
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: are multiple games where me and you talked and they
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: were like, the chief should be up by.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Four touchdowns right now.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah they should, They should really be up by a
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: lot of points. But there's a lot of times when
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it just never panned out that way because of flags,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: because of whole just really because of flags. Penalties really
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: held this team back quite a bit. And I do
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: think that this team in the playoff is going to
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: be a whole different animal. But for me, fifteen and
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: two I put to seventeen to zero if it didn't happen,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and a minus is what I'm going to give the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Chiefs and the struggles of Patrick Mahomes early on in
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the season were there.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I will say, I think.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It was a lot of adjusting, a lot of adjusting
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: to what the injuries were. And then once we traded
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: for DeAndre Hopkins, we saw what Patrick Mahomes at his
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: you know, Patrick Mahomes played Patrick Mahomes football.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So with that being said, I'm giving the Chiefs
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: at a plus here just due to all the injuries, like
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you were saying, and just due to the fact sometimes
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter how the games look. It just
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: matters if you win the football games or not. And
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: they won the football games. You can't take that away.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You can't say, well, hypothetically, this happened, this happened, this happened.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: The only two losses, well, you can't even really count
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: one of the losses they didn't even play one of
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the guys. But the other one was arguably to the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: MVP in the league where he went he had that
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: four or five game stretch where he was unstoppable at
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: that point. That's the only game you lost, and that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: was a close game right there. So I think Chiefs
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: sayd get an a plus for sure right here. Defense,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: they exceeded even my expectations. I expect them to fall,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: not fall off a cliff, but maybe go from an
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: historic level to maybe at bear or at worst case
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: scenario tip ten. I didn't take much convincing, but yeah,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I know even though Pat Mahomes he struggled towards the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: end of the year. When it comes playoff time, he
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: started to show Pat Mahomes doing Pat Mahomes things. But
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: not much to explain over that. But two other teams
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that are getting a's is the Broncos and the Charges here.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I both gave them a minuses here and they both
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: exceeded expectations by far. And I just think bow Knicks.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's the main thing. Bow Knicks. He had
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a great rookie season, but he was also an older
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback going into the draft, so he was able. I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: said that even before I said, whichever team he goes to,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: he could start right away because he is an older
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: quarterback and has seen some different things. In Sean Payton
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: perfect mix. They had ninety five million dollars in dead cap,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: and Nick Benito, Zach Allen, Pat certain and just as
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: defense in general, this is the reason why they won
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the ball games here Chargers. Just I think with Jim
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: harp Is it Jim or John, No, it's Jim Harball. Yeah.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: What Jim Harball did? He just turned this team around
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: because Brandon Staley he had this exact same team or
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: actually more talent with this team and couldn't do anything
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that Jim Harball did. You could just tell that coaching matters.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And they're one of the most efficient teams in the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: league as far as offensively and defensively. So they're playing
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: good brand of football now, they're just missing the talent
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: acts aspect what you could gain in the offseason. I
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: don't care what they do when the regular or the postseason,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: they get an A for sure. But the Raiders, even though
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I had them finishing last, I'm giving them a D
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: minus because you expect this offense to look good. Gardn
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Minshew he was a I wouldn't say this great quarterback,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: but he's a bridge quarterback, somebody who could put up
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: some points. We saw that week two whenever they beat
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the Ravens with Brock Bowers, Devon se Adams, those guys
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: doing good. Jacobe Myers, you had the weapons on offense.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Zamir White. Okay, okay, that's the last time I'm throwing
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the jet. That's the last time I'm throwing the jet.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: So those expectations for the offense before the season and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce and just definitely underwhelmed. And I don't even think,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: yeah no, they don't even have a top five draft
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: pick their number six right now, so we'll see who
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: they'll get in the following year.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: But they got Christian Wilkins this year.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same, they got Christian Wilkins, Max Crosby. So this defense,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it definitely did underwhelming. But all right, AFC East, Jets, Dolphins,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Bill and Patriots.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: For Patriots, I'm gonna give them a I think the Patriots, okay,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I'll give them will Be. Let's be right there, let's
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: give him a be. I think only reason I give
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: them would be because, really, Drake May. I think Drake
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: May is the bright spot. I think you have something
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: you can build off of. Jared Gerard Mayos one and
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: done first season as head coach. He's not gonna be
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: there next year. I think Mike ray Boles coming. I
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: will say, yeah, yeah, whatever. I think Mike ray Boles
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: coming for sure to be the head coach of the
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Patriots team.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's gonna be any other option for them.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I think this defense, you know, they started the season
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: off very good, they were holding teams down, kind of
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: fell off towards in the season like some of these
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: other teams. Christian Gonzales look good this season. I think
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: there's some bright spots you can take away. But I
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: think for the reason why I'm putting them that high
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: of a grade is because of Drake May and the
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: way that he was able to play this season. And
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: then as far as the as far as the Jets, F,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I think absolute F. Oh yeah, sure yeah, and then
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: in another F on top of that F. And then
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I'm at another F just because just for shit in Googles,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: so I'm at another F. And then I think, I
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: think expectations are are are insane for the Jesse I
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: had them in the Super Bowl.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Let's just say.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I know I have rather than the AFC Championship versus
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, and they're not obviously not going
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: to be there. Aaron Rodgers never lived up to expectation.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of internal things that he
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: has to I don't know, he's just he doesn't love football.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like anymore. I just think he just out
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: there playing. Breese Hall definitely didn't live up to expectations
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: this season. Garrett Wilson, I mean, I think there's only
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: so much Garrett Wilson can do to a certain.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he just catches like.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: He He's definitely played good this season. Defonte Adams even
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: played good towards the end of the season when Aaron
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Rodgers was really looking for him. But I think the
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: worst part of this team was the defense. This passion
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: defense was absolutely terrible. Even the rush game towards the
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: end of the season started getting bad. I don't know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: does this team that never live up to expectations no
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: matter what they they there was some games where we
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: thought they were gonna win, they didn't. And I don't know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: this Jets team was very disappointing. I really do think
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of these young guys are gonna want to
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: leave after this season. We're we're seeing it happen. I
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: think Garrett Wilson wants out, even Yeah, Sauce ones out.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I think these guys want to win football games, and
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the Jets they I don't think they want to rebuild
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: because they know what they have right now. Yeah, and
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I just think, Yeah, it's disappointing for the Jets Dolphins.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them a round a d I think
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: what coming away from being the number one? I think
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: understand two his injuries, I understand, but you were probably
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the number one offense last season, especially the last couple
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: of seasons. And we're being honest, Jean, I believe even
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: though he had a good season, it wasn't what he
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: what we thought he was going to be. This run
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: game was pretty non existent for the Dolphins team. I'm
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill dealt with his unfair share of injuries also,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: but he didn't even crack a thousand this year. Jailan Wattle,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I mean Daylan Wattle's fairy disappointing this season. He was,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: do you? I think you asked me who my biggest
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: for the person I was needed to step at. You asked, like,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: what's one person you would call out or something in
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the beginning, and I said Jalen Wattle specifically. You did like.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: And Jylan Wattle did not live up to those expectations.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: He did not hear your call out.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did not hear mine. John Smith though, dog
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: John Smith is Yeah, there's defense, you know, I think
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: they had a good passing defense in certain games, but
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: as a whole, the whole unit, this team definitely did
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: not live up. So for me, I'm gonna give them
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: a D around a D D minus area because we
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: expected this team to be one of the top continers
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Yeah, if we're gonna go with the Bills,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I think we'll give them if the Bills a an A,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: let's go with the Bill as an A. I think
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: M v P is definitely Josh Allen. You can argue
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: with your mom. I don't care what Omar Jackson has
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: done this season. This guy beat Patrick Mahomes has less
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowlers. I mean he definitely, especially what he's had
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: to deal with injury wise on the offensive side without
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Kean Coleman some games, and Mary Cooper came in lay
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: he was injured for the first like three or four games.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Dog Duncan kid got injured in this one. James Cook,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: you know he was good, but he's not really a
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: great running back. So yeah, I think I think this team,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: for what he had to deal with, I think an A.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Defensively they had they played a lot better than I
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: thought they were gonna play. Defensively this season and with
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: losing a couple of guys, so I think for the
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: middle them to give them an eight.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gonna start with the Jets here. They
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: definitely deserve the f But again, this is another team
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: that we talked about with the Niners, the Cowboys, and
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: this team too, where we talked about even by week eight,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: week nine, we're saying this team underwhelmed by a lot.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: So they're again, this is pretty much beating the dead
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: horse right here. We already know how this team played
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: and yeah, like you're the main thing I want to
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: take away from this is that, yeah, Brees Hall, Garrett Wilson,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Saus Gardner, some of these guys they're gonna win out
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson, those rumors are only getting worse as
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: it goes on. And you have the seventh overall pick,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: so you don't even have a top pick. Aaron Rodgers
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: he may not come back, so you're you're in the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: dead zone right here, where it's these older veterans that
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: are signed to this team and you gave a bunch
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: of draft picks, but you're not that good. So they're
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: in a worse spot where they could be rebuilding another
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: five six years easily. But Dolphins right here, I'm giving
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: them a C minus. I would have given them a
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: worse grade. But I think this is mostly their offense.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: The defense for the Dolphins was a top ten scoring defense,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: so they did their job. If you would have said
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: before the year, Dolphins are a top ten scoring defense,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: you would have been like, Okay, well, this Dolphins offense,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: maybe they'll not be number one, but they'll be bare
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: minimum top five from what we've seen. And Devon Aachen
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: stepping up, so like you were saying, too his injuries
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that did kill them. But if Mike McDaniel he's that
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: good of an offensive guru, how not necessarily he's in
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that Sean McVay, Kyle Shannan, Andy Reid tier. But he
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I say, he's right below. I say, like, just right
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: below that tier. He should have been able to win
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: some games, some games where two it wasn't there just
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: due to you having all those weapons. So that was
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: more disappointing the offensive side. But Bills, I know you
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: said A I think this were your hates coming out
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: right here. I think this deserves an A plus plus
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: right here because they got rid of a bunch of
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: guys on the defense, and Stefan Diggs he was out,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: so all these new guys coming in, maybe due to
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: just Josh Allen having a crazy year, which we're going
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: to talk about with the Wards in the second. But
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I think this just easily one of the best a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: pluses because this team became a lot more efficient and
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: learned how to win those close football games, if that
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: makes sense. And I know, I know they beat the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Chiefs every year, but it just seemed a little bit
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: different this year. I'm not saying they're gonna beat the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Chiefs in the postseason, but I'm saying it looked a
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: little bit different than how the games went. They were
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: able to control most of their games other than the
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Rams game, I could say their games they looked like
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: they were in control of if that makes sense, and
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: they just slipped away and they still had thirteen wins
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: on the year. But all right, as far as with
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, I'm not gonna give him a B. I'm
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: gonna give him a C minus because, yes, Drake may
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: he was a bright spot, but not that I really
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: had expectations for him. But I just think there wasn't
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: there just wasn't enough talent to really assess Gerrod Mayo.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I think I'm more pissed because Girod Mayo, he got
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: fired for not having talent on this team, and I
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: think he didn't get a fair share, if that makes sense.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's more wanting to bring in someone that
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: they want. Yeah, Mike is more wanting to bring in
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Mike Grabel.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah I get that, But then why I hired Gerrod
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Mayo if that makes sense.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have hired Mike Grabel like immediately.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But all right, let's get onto this
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: last division right here, AFC North right here, Raven Steelers,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Browns and Bengals right here.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I think for the Browns and F, I think the
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Brown's absolutely good. An F, I think I understand. I
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: understand our biggest I think definitely of our expectations for
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Dashaun Watson were not high. We did not expect him
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: to be this top quarterback James Winston. We understand that
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: he would come in and change a little bit of things,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: but it still wouldn't pan out to winning. But we
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: he thought this talent around this team could have definitely
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: kept this team up, especially on the defensive side, Miles
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Garrett Denzel wore. You know a lot of the guys
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: that they have there, we know what they are as
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: a unit, but they just never it just wasn't entirely
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: there this season, and they just never were able to
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: hold teams down gaming in game out. They let up
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of points that they weren't used to doing
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: in the last couple of seasons. Offensively, I mean, Jerry
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Judy stepped up a lot when I mean they have
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: the weapons still, Jerry Judy, Amari Cooper, Cedrick Tillman. See,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: all these guys were there that Jims Winston was getting
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: involved just didn't translate to wins and Shaun Watson.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: They restarted his contract towards some I don't know.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like get rid of them, like, you know,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: just take your l keep it moving, bring someone else in.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that that experiment is there anymore.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: It's probably one of the biggest falloffs in history of
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: what Deshaun Watson is actually is now. So this team,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: this team was just very disappointing all the way around.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: As far as the Bengals, I think I'm also going
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: to keep them around. I understand I hate the Bengals,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: but they are a good football team. I think we
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: know what they can be at their peak, and we've
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: seen that the last the last yeh what, I don't know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: six games. They seven games of the season where they
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: had to really tee up. We saw what they could
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: possibly be, especially offensively. There's a lot of individuals this year.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was a lot more individuality play than
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: it was actually team play, especially on the defensive side.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Tray Hedrick shuldn't let the league sacks and yeah they're not,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: but the rest of the unit was terrible.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: If we were looking at the offensive.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Side, Triple Crown winner Joe Burrow passing place, his passing
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: yards and touchdowns.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I mean he put up the stats as well.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: It was just I don't know, I don't know. This
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: defense has held his team back and I think I'm
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: gonna give them a round a D. And I think
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: we saw at their peak what they possibly could be.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: But this defense held them back so much in a
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: way that we were that were going to be unable
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to see it in the playoffs.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: And I'm so happy because of it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: So thank you, bingles. Defense.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Scared were you scared of the Bengals.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I respect the Bingles. I respect the Bengals. I respect
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: the Bengals, not respects.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: I respect.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: That answers the question. That answers the question right there.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I respect the Bengals and the Bills. That's why I
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: hate them so much.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, but but if they're not going to be there,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter anymore, No, it doesn't matter. So
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: two playoffs missing in two seasons. They've missed the playoffs
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: back to back, and I wonder what they're gonna do
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. Because Zach Taylor, we know, is a good coach.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I think he's a great offensive coach. Great, but I
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what should I mean, he
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: had a winning record. I mean he's on that nine.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they a losing record. But
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I think they need to rebuild that defense entirely. I
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: honestly don't think they should pay t Higgins.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: You don't think so? He said he's willing to take.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: A You got other needs, bro, Yeah, you got other
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: needs besides t Higgins, you know. So it was like,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you you got to put that money.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Words in the defensive back room for sure, we're in
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the linebacker room.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying this, Robert Sala, he's a hot
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator this this year. But if you get Robert Sala,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: if you look, maybe he could revamp this defense.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Kind of like but he's good looking.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: At least once once every time on the pod, go ahead,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: go ahead, you can.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: For the Steelers, I'm gonna give them. I think for
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: the Steelers, I'm gonna give them a minus B plus
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: around that area. I think the expectations weren't very high
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: for the Steelers coming into this season. I think we
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: knew what their defense could possibly would be. I think
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: we still a lot of question marks on the quarterback situation,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, justin field, George Pickens. You know, I'm not
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the biggest George Pickens guy, neither of us are, but
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: he's but he really had a good season this year.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Also, the running game, we expected a little bit more.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: But I think as a whole, as an entirety, they're
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: definitely not in that tier to compete with compete with
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs or the Bills, but they compete with everyone else.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I think I think they can compete with the Ravens
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: for sure. I think we've seen them compete with the Ravens,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: but for the Chiefs and Bills, I just think that
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: two teams are some teams that they probably won't be
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: able to touch. For everyone else in this conference, I
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna able to be right there. Marthur bar
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: With honestly in a game in, game out situation. I
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: think what we saw from Russell Wilson definitely was a
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: resurgence of his career. Being around a team like the
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Steelers who have a winning culture. I think that helped
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: him out quite a bit. George Pickens, he really got
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: him involved, especially in big playability that George Pickens does have.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson was really targeting that their run game. Najie
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Harris almost had a research into the year. It wasn't
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: a great year by any means, but it was a
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: good year that we haven't see from Najie Harrison a
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: little bit. JHN Warren dealt with some injuries and he
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: played some good football when he came back on the
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: defensive side. You know. TJ. Watt literally kind of had
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: one of his worst years of his career. Just the
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: stats wasn't really there entirely, But what he's able to
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: do is I think opened up some space from other
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: guys to get through like an Alex Heismith and some
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: others that they got and that they got on that
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: on that front. Seven, So Minka Fitzpatrick play great football.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior played, he played good football. I think
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: he took a little bit of a step back, maybe
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: just a little bit, but yeah, he still played some
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: good football. And I think it still is for me
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: a plus A minus B plus area on that part.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: As far as the Ravens offensively, I'm gonna give them.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's two different type of units. I feel
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: like for this Lakers team it's it's not a plus.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's definitely an A plus for the Ravens.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna give them an A minus. Let's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: go with the A minus for the Ravens. I think
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I think offensively, Derrick Henry lived up to expectations. For sure,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson could possibly might win MV and might win
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: MVP over Josh Allen this year.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wouldn't be mad if he did it either.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's the other situations where both guys played
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: great football, and I think he could win MVP for sure.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: I think he might win MVP.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: As far as the the receiving wise, Da Flowers had
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: a great season in his second season. Rashaan Bateman definitely
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: had a resurgence of a year also, But there's a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of we didn't have any especially
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: for ra Shot Bliman, I think going into the season,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: and he really lived up to a little bit. Mark
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Andrews struggle at the beginning of the season. I think
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of it coming back from injury,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: trying to just get accustomed to a new role with
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry being there that for a while he figured
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: it out as a likely you know, he continues to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: be a good second option behind Mark Andrews. But as
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: far the defensive side, I mean front seven, Roll cown Smith,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: guys on the defensive line, they played great football with
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: the secondary really helped them back and I still do
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: think they hold them back quite a bit. I don't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: think there's any reason Malin Humphy should have made the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. I really don't any world.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: If anything, Nate Wiggins on that teame.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: But Trum McDuffie didn't even make the Pro Bowl. I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: mean he hasn't made a Pro Bowl and it's stupid,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: makes no sense. Yeah, Walin Humphrey making the Pro Bowl
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: is kind of kind of one of themmest things I've
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: seen because the way the secondary has been playing and
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of part of the stars have been because
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: of him. So yeah, so it's like, I don't know,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: So for me, I'm giving the team may Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm right there with you. As far as with
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the Ravens a minus for much of the reasons that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: you said, I'm not going to really go over them
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: because they finished as one of the best teams in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the league. Steelers they were in the A category, but
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: when they lost four in a row, that switched it
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: to B minus for me, And I just think that
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: not necessarily that they're getting figured out, But there's just
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: a certain style they have to win games where it's
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: low scoring. Defense has to play out standing for them
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: to win the ballgame. And like you were saying, Bill's Chiefs,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: you could just count them out as far as right there,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: But we'll see. We're gonna talk about it in a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: second Ravens versus Steelers, but I'm not gonna give much away.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, still, as they get a B minus the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Browns they get a D. And I just think Deshaun Watson,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: there wasn't many expectations, but somehow he disappointed from those expectations,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: it somehow got worse. I don't know how he happened
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: to do that. You have the second overall pick here,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: so you could draft a quarterback. Have Deshaun Watson come in. Well,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: if you could play an entire season, If he could
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: do that, you could have the quarterback sit behind maybe
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: he could learn a little bit. Or actually, don't don't
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: learn anything from Deshaun Watson. But I'm just saying on
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the field. Off the field, I wouldn't say learned anything
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: from Deshaun Watson, but you could sit by the year
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: learn the NFL. And with the Bengals, I'm giving them
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: a C plus here. I think obviously offense it wasn't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: the problem here, but defense. This is both sides of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: the football, or three phases of football, special teams. It
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: was fine, but the defense just held them back so much.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Lou Aronomo, I think that's how you say his last name.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: We got yeah, Ana Romo, thank you. He got fired
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: as DC. Maybe maybe you could bring in another defensive coordinator.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I think they should bring back T Higgins just just
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: due to how explosive this offense was. And I say,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: you could draft some guys on the defensive side, there's
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what it is, but well
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: now I know what it is. Offense. Offensively players they
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: get drafted so high that defensive players they just follow
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: the Bengals. They could draft one of them. But all right,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: let's go in and get into our awards. We finished
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: our grades. So there's MVP, DP o Y, Rookie of
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the Year, defensive Rookie of the Year, comeback Player of the Year,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. So let's let's go ahead and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: get the main one out of the way, MVP Most
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Valuable Player. Right here in the NFL, there's only two
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: guys that really have a case here, Josh Allen and
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So if you had an MVP valley here, Josh,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: who would be your.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Vote for me? I'm gonna go with Josh Allen. I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: think he doesn't have the stats that Lamar Jackson does.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: And I get that Breck and Thompson trigguing and go crazy,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: but he definitely has the stats. He has the stats
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: to win an MVP this season, and I think the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: deciding factor is what matters the most is how many
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: games did you win? And he's the number two seed
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: in the entire in the entire AFC fourteen wins. And
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: then also who beat Patrick Mahomes wrong win? It was
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, not Lamar Jackson. And then we're looking at
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: how many top teams you beat. Josh Allen beat more
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: top teams than Lamar Jackson did, and I think that's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: gonna be the deciding factor when it all matters the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: most about this, and that's really why I have Josh
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Allen winning. I understand Lamar Jackson's great season a statistically
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: less low interceptions on all these touchdowns he scored, but
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: we've seen him do that before. But the difference between
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen and him is Josh Allen won more games,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: and I think that's why Josh Allen's gonna win MVP.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: So I have Josh Allen win an MVP here. And
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: just due to the last last time he posted on
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: TikTok and how it's all well, Josh Allen, he doesn't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: have the stats. I found some stats for specifically for
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: the people that are saying Josh Allen does not have
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: no stats to back it up. First off, here's what
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I want to say. If this is just purely about stats,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Joe Burdle should win the MVP. And let's not even
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: vote no more, you know what I mean, Let's just
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: look at the box scores and say who had the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: best stats throughout the year and give it to that
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: person if we're really just going strictly off of stats.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a combined total of stats and winning.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: And like you said, how many teams that you beat?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: How many marquee games did you have? And the first
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: thing right here is that Josh Allen he beat both
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, a number one seed and the kan
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: City Chiefs, who are number one seeds. And Josh Allen
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: he's the first quarterback ever to have forty total touches, sounds,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: less than eight turnovers, and less than twenty sacks in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: a season. Not only that, Lamar Jackson he has more
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: negative plays, that's interception, sacks, fumbles, that's all of that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: which Josh Allen is more prone to be turnover or
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: turnover prone compared to these last few seasons. So as
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: far as pro Bowlers, Josh Allen only had two, compared
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson having nine. Josh Allen also sat out
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: eleven more quarters than Lamar Jackson, almost three total games
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: and one more stat I feel like this puts icing
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: on the cake right here. The Bills offense averaged three
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: points per possession. That is an NFL record right there,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: as far as most points per possession and an NFL
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: season right there, And that's without a thousand yard receiver
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: and barely James could crack in a thousand yards in
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the last game of the year where Josh Allen didn't play.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: So on paper, it looks like it looks like that
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen didn't deserve the MVP. But when you look
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: behind of seasons, you actually look at the game, Josh
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Allen is a clear cut MVP here. But if Lamar
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Jackson wins, don't get me wrong, if he wins, then
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad at it. But in my opinion,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen deserves the MVP. But all right, Defensive Player
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: of the Year. There's Pascertain there's Kirby Joseph, there's Miles Garrett,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: there's all these different guys. Who do you got it's
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: a tough for me.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Patrick. I think, uh to understand
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: how like Trim m duffyre Chris Jones aren't up here
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: is kind of insane to me, But it's whatever. I think.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the passer tain. For me, I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: think being able to guard the best receiver game in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: and game out and do it in the way that
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: he does. I just think that and the way that
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: the Broncos defense played as a unit this year, he
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: definitely let the way and in the year what we
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: thought we didn't they didn't have really any expectations, and
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: he was the main focal point of that whole entire defense.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna give it to pass certain I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: think he definitely deserves it. I think everyone I don't.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I really don't think there's anyone else in the season
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: that really sticks out along with him, if being completely honest,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: And I think I think one guy that I would
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: have thought would have won if he stayed healthy was
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Aiden Aiden Hutchinson. I think he was definitely on that
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: trajectory to winning on Defensive Player of the Year.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: But this year, I think it's Patric Tan's award to lose.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I have Passer Taine winning two and just
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: just to add on to that, eighty six overall as
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: far as Pro Football Focus grade eighty eight, coverage grade,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: foreign receptions, thirty five receptions allowed total on the entire year.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: So it just shows how how lockdown he was throughout
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the entire year and leading I think arguably one of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league to the playoffs. So
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: all right, Offensive Player of the Year, I feel like
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: this one's pretty clear cut and dry. But who is it.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Think if I think it's gonna be Saquon Barkley, I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: think I don't think it's really going to be really close.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: I understand if maybe if the Bengals had a winning
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: wreck at what made the playoffs, Jamar Chase will have
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: more of the case to winning Offense Player the Year
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: getting the Triple Crown.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's ever been offensive play of the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Year that didn't win the Triple Crown, that went that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: went into the Crown and didn't win Offensive Player of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: the Year. But Skuon Barkley, you know, rush the rushing yards,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns, what he did receiving wise, I think Saquon
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Barkley definitely deserves to win Offensive Player of the Year
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: by a landslide. I don't think it's really going to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: be closed cracking two thousand yards. We hardly ever see
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: that or we never ever see that, really, So I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: think him winning Offense Player the Year is only fitting
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: for it for it to only be Saquon Barkley.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I have Saquon Barkley winning this one by
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: far too. And I'm looking through all of these. So
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: the only person that didn't win Offensive Player of the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Year was Steve Smith Senior in two thousand and five
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: and Team Yeah. And this is the first time Action
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety two, a triple Crown winner has not
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: made the playoffs in NFL history.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: So did you see that video? Sharp? Yeah?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Sharp?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: When was the last time of a true Crown winner
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: didn't make the playoffs?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: You're brother, like, whoa, whoa?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: He's like, whoa thirty years? Thirty years?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: You asked the last time, dude, they were lost to
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: the troll Bro.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: He definitely looked that up, Like, yeah, definitely looked that up.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: No, he he had it ready. You could tell as
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: soon as he asked that he didn't even finished asking
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: the question. You just saw he just had that smirk
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: on his face like I got you, I got you. No,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Saquon player cut offense Player of the Year
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: one hundred yards away from breaking Eric Dickerson's record. And
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: as far as people saying, oh, well, more games, Saquon
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Barkley had forty less carries than Eric Dickerson. So if
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: he had those forty more carries then he would have
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: easily broke the record there. But all right, Offensive Rookie
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: of the Year, I think, well, let's do Offensive Rookie
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: the Year and Defensive Rookie of the Year. Let's just
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: go and do those right there. Who are you? So
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: if you're two, go ahead.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: So for Offensive Rookie the Year, I think it's going
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: with j and Daniels.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: I understand brock Bars had a good season, both Nicks
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, but I think what Jane and Daniels able
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: to do rushing and passing through the air, he really
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: brought the Washington Commanders all the way back to all
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: the way back into contitioning with a total five record.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: He dealt with a couple of injuries in the middle.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Of the season, and people were asking as he figured out,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: but really I just think he needed that bye week,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: and after the bye week, he went exactly right back
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: to where he was at the beginning of the season.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: So I think Jana Daniels definitely just gonna win. And
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: he's a quarterback, so that that makes it a lot
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: more and a lot better. And I think for jenn
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: and Daniels, I think he definitely is gonna win it.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Brock Bowers deserves it, Bnicks to service, I think even
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas deserves it, or the leagueighbors. I think any
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: of those guys, I don't think you can really be
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: mad at but Jane and Daniels, the way he played
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: the season, I think it's definitely his award to lose. Yeah,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: for sure, at the defensive side of the ball, He's
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: gonna be tough. I think I think I'm gonna have
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: to go with them, dude, I don't know. I think
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: it's between Verse, Jared Verse, Kenny Mitchell, and Brandon Fisk.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: So I don't know why, like, yeah, that's uh, it's tough.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I must as I want to say, Jenden Hicks, I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: can't do that, but it's gonna be. It's definitely gonna
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: be I think it's gonna be Jared. I think it's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: gonna go to Jared Verse. I think the way he
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: was able to control the defensive line and be that
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: leading role of next to Kobe Turner and Braden Fizz
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: in his rookie season for the Los Angeles Rams, I
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: think it added another element to this team that they
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: that they definitely need going into the playoffs and for
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  Speaker 2: the future. So I think for me, Jared Versus gonna
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  Speaker 2: win Defensive Rookie of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I agree with you, clear cut right here
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  Speaker 1: offense and defensive Rookie Year. Jayden Daniels, I think, like
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  Speaker 1: I was saying earlier on, he's argued as a top
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  Speaker 1: ten quarterback right now, just based off of this season,
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  Speaker 1: maybe top five. So this isn't really a question quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: They they're more likely to get the award those like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying other guys they deserve the award, But Jaden Daniels,
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  Speaker 1: it was There's only three guys who I could say
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  Speaker 1: had great rookie seasons as quarterback, Dak Prescott, CJ. Stroud,
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  Speaker 1: and now Jaden Daniels. So that's rare company that you're
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  Speaker 1: having right there where they make the playoffs and do
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  Speaker 1: something great. But defensive Rookie of the Year, I'm with
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  Speaker 1: you right there, Jared Verse. He made the Pro Bowl
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  Speaker 1: his first year. That should tell you everything. Foreign half sacks,
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  Speaker 1: twelve stuffs, seventy four pressures, eleven tackle for losses, and
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  Speaker 1: fifty three hurries. So this dude, he was just on
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  Speaker 1: a different level after needing somebody to step up when
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald retired. All right, comeback player of the Year
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  Speaker 1: right here. I think this one's clear cut.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think it's definitely gonna be Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 2: It's not necessarily an injury award anymore. It's more of
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  Speaker 2: like how good I think Jena's going to change the
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  Speaker 2: trajectory of this award for sure. Yeah, with the season
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  Speaker 2: that he had a couple of years ago. So I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: think the comeback Player of the Year was definitely going
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  Speaker 2: to be Sam Donald. I think the way that people
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  Speaker 2: wrote him off in his career that he's just a
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  Speaker 2: career backup from now on, not really going to get
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  Speaker 2: really opportunity. They thought he was going to be that
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  Speaker 2: bridge quarterback for JJ McCarthy. He still might be. He
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: still might be just a bridge quarterback. But I think
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  Speaker 2: the way that he's played this year, the way that
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: he took the Viking to fourteen and three, the way
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  Speaker 2: that he was honestly if people can say that, the
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  Speaker 2: weapons around him, but really, Sam Donald was making so
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  Speaker 2: big place this year. Yeah, and he was making things happen.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't turn over the ball quite a bit. There
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: was a stretch where he was for a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but he got back into the swing of things and
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  Speaker 2: found his group again. And I think definitely come back
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  Speaker 2: Player of the Year for Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Sam Donald, he definitely deserved it. And talk
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  Speaker 1: about another person who could arguably be be said as
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  Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback, Not that he is, but as
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  Speaker 1: far as this year fifth and passing yards, fifth and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: touchdowns and QBR you had, you had better than league
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  Speaker 1: average QBR. So Sam Donald, he definitely deserves this. But
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  Speaker 1: I think this one goes hand in hand right here.
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  Speaker 1: Coach of the Year right here, there's Kevin O'Connell, There's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Andy Reid, there's those guys. But who's coach
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  Speaker 1: of the Year.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's got to be Kevin O'Connell. I think
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  Speaker 2: there was the expectations for the Lions and the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: We're up there no matter what. But I think the
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  Speaker 2: expectation for the Vikings the way that they they they
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: surpassed every expectation by a million. And I think Kevin
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  Speaker 2: O'Connell with what he had to deal with, especially having
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald and still get his guys involved, establishing a
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: run game with Aaron Jones, I think on the defensive side,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: we didn't expect them to be this good. We expected
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: them to struggle, but they're definitely one of the top
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: units in the NFL. So I think as a whole,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell definitely deserves Coach of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with you one hundred percent. I
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  Speaker 1: think just as coaching staff in general deserves Coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Year, if that makes sense. Just what they were
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: able to do. They put on a masterclass and they're
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: only projected five total wins on the year, so for
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: them to get fourteen wins is absolutely crazy right there.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: But all right, we're gonna leave it at that. Josh,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: do you have any last words before we.
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  Speaker 2: End this just now?
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  Speaker 3: I just you're ready for the Chiefs that host another
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: winning a couple in a month?
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• 1:15:45
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