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BPS 441: Comedy, Confidence, and the Art of Reinvention with Rhonda Shear · Bulletproof Screenwriting™ Podcast

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Speaker 6: And I don't like to play favorites, but this is
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Speaker 6: actually one of my favorite episodes because I grew up
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Speaker 6: watching usays Up All Night all the time. I remember
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Speaker 6: when this was on. I found so many movies because
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Speaker 6: of USA's Up All Night. And my guest this week
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Speaker 6: was the host of USA's Up All Night from nineteen
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Speaker 6: ninety one to nineteen ninety eight. She's acted in TV
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Speaker 6: shows like Happy Days, Mattered with Children, Duckman, Just the
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Speaker 6: Name of You. In two thousand and one, she launched
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Speaker 6: launched her own Woman's Intimate line, and she has the
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Speaker 6: number one selling Braught in the world and her new
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Speaker 6: book Up All Night. From Hollywood, Bombshell to Laudree and Mobile.
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Speaker 6: In this episode, we chat a lot about movies find
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Speaker 6: the courage of all your dreams. For you're venting yourself
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Speaker 6: at any age. It's just tons more. Again one of
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Speaker 6: my favorite episodes with guests Rhonda shere.
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Speaker 4: Happy to speak to you. Heard nothing but amazing things
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Speaker 4: about you. So thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Ron. I really appreciate that.
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Speaker 6: And you know I really wanted to have you on too,
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Speaker 6: because I grew up watching Up All Night or USA
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Speaker 6: is Up all Night, and I remember.
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Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait, let me do it day of day? Wait,
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Speaker 4: wait us say all I have to do it as
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Speaker 4: the Greek chad, so I'll have to set it out.
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Speaker 6: I remember that all the time. I mean I sometimes
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't even remember the movies, but I remember. I
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Speaker 6: remember that because you know, I remember too finding a
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Speaker 6: lot of movies i'd never heard of before from from
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Speaker 6: that intro, and I remember, I just remember that intro.
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Speaker 6: The first time I ever saw was you doing that?
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Speaker 6: And I remember, like it was so great because it's
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Speaker 6: so it's so catchy, you know what I mean, remember absolutely.
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Speaker 4: And it's so funny that you say that, because you know,
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Speaker 4: when I first you know, there was another gal before
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Speaker 4: me that hosted Up All Night with Gilbert On. I
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Speaker 4: was always on Friday and Jilbigotty was on Saturday. And
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Speaker 4: I'm banking on her name right now, but anyway, you
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Speaker 4: might be able to see Carolyn Caroline, Carolyn Shelt, Caroline Schlitz.
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Speaker 4: And so she was there about a year and a
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Speaker 4: half before I got there, and I know people really
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Speaker 4: loved her, and I thought she was actually very good.
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Speaker 4: But you know, it was USA Network that wanted to
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Speaker 4: replace her for whatever, and I think they were going
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Speaker 4: a little bit. They thought it being a little bit sexier,
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Speaker 4: they wanted to kind of go for it. So I did.
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Speaker 4: But I always thought when I got it, I always thought,
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Speaker 4: you know, you have to come up with kind of
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Speaker 4: a catchphrase. And because years ago, I'm from New Orleans
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Speaker 4: and when I was in New Orleans, I used to
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Speaker 4: do this commotion for it was an all female you know,
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Speaker 4: like class like pre you know, all the gyms that
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Speaker 4: were mixed they used to have like men gym, female
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Speaker 4: gyms and anybody. It was called the shape spot for
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Speaker 4: all women. And I used to and the catchphrase was
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Speaker 4: let's get in shape. So that was kind of like
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Speaker 4: my saying, I mean all of my teens and my
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Speaker 4: twenties and so it always caught and where wherever I
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Speaker 4: would go in New orleanst But oh, it's a shapespot girl.
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Speaker 4: So anyway, that kind of brought me back to that,
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Speaker 4: and so I said, I have to come up with
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Speaker 4: some way of saying show that kind of catches, and
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Speaker 4: so hence that that's how that was born. And of
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Speaker 4: course it was a little bit of a good fier character.
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Speaker 4: But if you really listened to the character, you know
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Speaker 4: it was fun and smart comedy. But if you were
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Speaker 4: just I guess, uh, channel surfing, you would just see
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Speaker 4: a lot of blonde hair, a lot of cleavage and
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Speaker 4: up on it. But anyway, it was good. It was
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Speaker 4: a good run, almost almost eight years, so kind of
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Speaker 4: cool to have that long run on the show, on
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Speaker 4: any show on to V.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's absolutely amazing because I actually looked it up
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Speaker 6: because I didn't even know the total number of episodes
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Speaker 6: off the top of my head. I mean, there's like
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Speaker 6: nine hundred episodes of Up All Night, And I mean, right, and.
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Speaker 3: You did it for like eight years. I mean, that's
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Speaker 3: an insane number of episodes.
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Speaker 4: It really is, well you know what it is. It
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Speaker 4: is because we taped every week as opposed to like,
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Speaker 4: you know, most episode of shows were like twenty two
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Speaker 4: a season, but we were on every week, so it
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Speaker 4: would either tape every week and then the show New York.
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Speaker 4: For a while. I didn't move to New York, but
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Speaker 4: we would go to New York and tape four or
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Speaker 4: five you know, bank them and then they were an air.
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Speaker 4: So it was really cool to have that much fun
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Speaker 4: and I had. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I guess, they kept
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Speaker 4: changing producers and direct was on me. I don't know
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Speaker 4: what they wanted, but actually, and looking back, I'm still
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Speaker 4: friendly with all these people, and each month brought something
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Speaker 4: else to the table. Well, of course, in the very
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Speaker 4: early years it was really sexy and sassy and a
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Speaker 4: little lingerie and the first couple of years and then
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Speaker 4: it kind of changed and it became more interview style,
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Speaker 4: and then we got to New York, it really changed.
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Speaker 4: But I think people remember the earlier years. But for
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Speaker 4: me as a performer, they were all cool because I
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Speaker 4: really got to, you know, have a lot of saying
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Speaker 4: what I wanted to do. So she watched a late
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Speaker 4: like even the last year, we did a lot of uh,
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Speaker 4: I did a lot of impressions of like Lucille Ball
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Speaker 4: and Share and like some of my I powered you
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Speaker 4: a lot of my favorite ladies of television, so that
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Speaker 4: was really cool. But yeah, that I did four hundred
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Speaker 4: and fifty episodes myself, and I think I'm the only
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Speaker 4: one that has most. I mean I have probably at
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Speaker 4: least four hundred, might be missing a few, but I
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Speaker 4: actually had them, you know, that was part of my
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Speaker 4: contract that they had given me a video tape of everything.
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Speaker 4: So most of those have been doubt or uploaded, I
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Speaker 4: should say, and then a lot of them are still
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Speaker 4: on DVD, so eventually we'll get to them and put
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Speaker 4: them all on YouTube. But I'm the only one. They
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Speaker 4: literally USA Network disposed of them back then because of
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Speaker 4: the tape. Just saving tape. Can you imagine how what
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Speaker 4: a shame. So I think even the producer, some of
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Speaker 4: the producers have a few shows, but I have most
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Speaker 4: of them. Of course I don't have the movies. I
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Speaker 4: used to have all the movies. What they would do
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Speaker 4: is you were, say, network would send me the movies
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Speaker 4: to watch, and you know, of course, then you know,
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Speaker 4: you know, do the wrap arounds later on. I should
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Speaker 4: have saved all those movies. Although I wouldn't have had
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Speaker 4: the rights to them myself. But people always say, do
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Speaker 4: you have this film? You have that, and back in
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Speaker 4: the day, I did, but for my own stories, I
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Speaker 4: couldn't you know. We actually did two movies, or I
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Speaker 4: hosted three movies every Friday night, so we hosted and
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Speaker 4: wrapped around two and then the story one was just voiceover.
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Speaker 4: But they would send me all the movies ahead of time,
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Speaker 4: so I would have had a really great collection of
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Speaker 4: the films if I would have kept them all. But
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Speaker 4: it's funny, it's a genre that is kind of coming back.
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Speaker 4: Even a few years ago. I was asked to do
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Speaker 4: a film and everyone really misses that genre and the
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Speaker 4: fact that it was kind of innocent, like they we
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Speaker 4: thought you would see more, see more skin, or hear
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Speaker 4: more language than than you really got. So it was
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Speaker 4: kind of chitillating without being nasty. What have you. So anyway,
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Speaker 4: interesting time. I'm glad I was part of it, and
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Speaker 4: even being part of early basic cable, which was you
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Speaker 4: I say network was the first full out basic cable,
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Speaker 4: so very cool time. I'm glad I was part of it,
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Speaker 4: of course, and it led to obviously many other opportunities
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Speaker 4: and wonderful things.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was going to say that there really is
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Speaker 6: nothing like this on TV anymore, because this, you know,
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Speaker 6: as I was saying earlier, introduced me to a lot
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Speaker 6: of films that I wouldn't have seen otherwise. You know,
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Speaker 6: because again, you know, your character was great, it was
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Speaker 6: it was engaging. You actually enjoyed, you know, doing what
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Speaker 6: you were doing. You know, again, I imagine watching all
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Speaker 6: these movies. You know, you're probably you know, you're getting
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Speaker 6: a fuel for these movies. You know, this was a comedy, right,
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Speaker 6: you know Nightmare and elm Street obviously that's you know,
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Speaker 6: more of a horror.
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Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, but you know, it really is
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Speaker 3: nothing like.
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Speaker 4: This now exating Believe me, I still I still have
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Speaker 4: fans reach out to me and say, I really miss this.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I grew up with this. Of course, I
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Speaker 4: always can't say I got a lot of boys. I
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Speaker 4: think I did, but I had a lot of female
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Speaker 4: fans in the show too as well. But isn't anything
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Speaker 4: I mean, of course, Elvira was you know, she was syndicated.
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Speaker 4: I know, Cassandra Peterson, and then they had Bob Briggs
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Speaker 4: and then they had uh, they had I guess the later,
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Speaker 4: you know the movie uh, you know, a knockoff of
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Speaker 4: us in a way, but they were all good in
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Speaker 4: their own way. And then I don't know that it
9:35
Speaker 4: might be some local people that do it. I mean
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Speaker 4: all of this spurned from local people that did it
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Speaker 4: back in the day. And you know, even Elvira started
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Speaker 4: off the local show on Channel five in LA and
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Speaker 4: then that became syndicated. But now it's a shame. It's
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Speaker 4: really it's a sweet way it looks. It's really all
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Speaker 4: about I mean, what it was about then was making
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Speaker 4: people tune in to the commercials and keeping them entertained
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Speaker 4: with these films so that you know, USA would make
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Speaker 4: money off the ads. Well I don't think anybody realizesn't, but.
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Speaker 4: That little show made a fortune for USA Network off
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Speaker 4: the ads, and that funded a lot of their early
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Speaker 4: original programming, like was Sam Nikita and other shows like that.
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Speaker 4: So we were like this little cable show that costs
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Speaker 4: very little to produce, that was making some big dollars,
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Speaker 4: some big bucks for the network. So good time, good
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Speaker 4: time to be in TV. Then experiment a little bit fun.
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Speaker 4: I hosted the show from ninety one to ninety eight.
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Speaker 4: Everybody thinks it was in the eighties because I kept
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Speaker 4: my hair big, but I didn't start till January of
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Speaker 4: ninety one and just had a great time with it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I remember those other USA shows too.
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Speaker 6: By the way you met, you mentioned Nikita, and I
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Speaker 6: remember remember like you remember Duckman, that.
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Speaker 3: Show duck Man.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually did a couple of episodes of it
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Speaker 4: as Ronda. I wasn't a Dark Coming, it was Rhonda.
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Speaker 4: And then I did Didn't Call All Science. I was
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Speaker 4: on an episode of that. I was on almost that
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Speaker 4: the other show I wasn't almost having Nikita darn, I'm
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Speaker 4: blanket on the other name of the show. I can't believe.
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Speaker 4: I can't think of it. But then they started off
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Speaker 4: or it was really made them put before Up All
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Speaker 4: Night was Night's Light, which just a lot of people
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Speaker 4: still remember. I vaguely remembered, but because it was before me.
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Speaker 4: But that was their first kind of out there programming
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Speaker 4: of you know, interstitial late night television. So it was
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Speaker 4: a really cool network to be part of in the
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Speaker 4: early days. And then they got into I Wish I
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Speaker 4: mean from I mean I don't watch ring as much.
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Speaker 4: I just don't knew much a lot of television. But
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Speaker 4: I always i'm told that it was better back in
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Speaker 4: the day. I think it was just it was a
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Speaker 4: little more raw and a little bit more experimental, and
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Speaker 4: you know, everything is so and everything is so much
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Speaker 4: more reality today than scripted, because we were a little
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Speaker 4: bit of both. We had a little We had a
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Speaker 4: little script and then a lot of like slim by
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Speaker 4: the seat of our pants. But it would take about
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Speaker 4: twelve hours to film those up. I mean, because I
12:16
Speaker 4: would fill anywhere between thirty minutes of time till to
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Speaker 4: an hour, depending on how much was cut out of
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Speaker 4: the film. It's how much was you know, how short
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Speaker 4: the films are, so I it just depended on the film.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I would have to fill a longer period. So
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Speaker 4: people think that people thought that we were live. We
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Speaker 4: were never alive and were taped in the day usually
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Speaker 4: unless we were doing a night event or something and
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Speaker 4: we shot for hours. It was a I mean, it
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Speaker 4: was definitely a lot more hard work than I think
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Speaker 4: people thought. But I had a blast, and I had
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Speaker 4: gooint people in my life and that produced it and
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Speaker 4: directed it, and a lot of people that were young
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Speaker 4: people that started off and went on to do amazing things,
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Speaker 4: like one of the young producers I think he produces
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Speaker 4: Bill More now. So I mean they went on to
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Speaker 4: do some pretty amazing things. And what goes off to that.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And you mentioned one thing to Ronda, which is
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Speaker 6: about how TV is nowadays, and you know, I wanted
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Speaker 6: to get your take on this.
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Speaker 3: You know, I think back in.
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Speaker 6: The in the nineties and the end even the eighties,
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Speaker 6: where where you know, a lot of these new TV
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Speaker 6: shows you know, were breaking ground and they were something
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Speaker 6: new when they were fresh. My whole take on this,
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Speaker 6: and something that I've noticed is that they let the
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Speaker 6: hosts like yourself, be themselves. And they really didn't say, say, hey, Ronda,
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Speaker 6: here's a ninety page script you have to memorize.
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Speaker 3: They then, you know, would let you be yourselves.
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Speaker 6: And I think as we get along to TV nowadays,
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Speaker 6: it's more of here's the script, read it, and don't
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Speaker 6: don't venture off this script.
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Speaker 3: And I think it.
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Speaker 6: Really makes a lot of shows to cookie cutter because
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Speaker 6: all the characters are talking the same, you know what
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Speaker 6: I mean.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and even in reality which everybody thinks of reality,
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Speaker 4: try this. I mean, some of my friends who I
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Speaker 4: did a lot of talk shows and hosts justice and
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Speaker 4: hosted our talk shows back in that era, and a
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Speaker 4: lot of those young producers are now the people who
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Speaker 4: are kicking button reality TV. So I was kind of
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Speaker 4: I did a lot of basically reality can but they
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Speaker 4: were just segments that reality TV is not real real.
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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, they don't necessarily have scripts with that
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Speaker 4: they memorize, but the producers really push you into situations
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Speaker 4: and they'll say, oh, I'd like to see you and
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Speaker 4: that guy and that girl, and I'd like to see
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Speaker 4: this happening. So you're kind of push those those reality
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Speaker 4: shows aren't necessarily as real, so I mean they and
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Speaker 4: they kind of stole the pot to make, you know,
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Speaker 4: tension happen. And I just because of that, it's it's
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Speaker 4: kind of manufacturing and it's all, well, that's why a
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Speaker 4: lot of reality shows I feel the same, because it's
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Speaker 4: the same thing. They're pushing for fighting or they're pushing for,
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Speaker 4: you know, for stuff to have, and so it's not organic.
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Speaker 4: And yeah, we had a really good time. I mean,
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Speaker 4: even if we were spooked and we had certain jokes
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Speaker 4: that were scripting. I mean, Gilbert and I were really
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Speaker 4: able to be ourselves and it was really fun to
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Speaker 4: experiment with that. And by the way, we had so
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Speaker 4: many guests on both of us. I mean, Gilbert had
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Speaker 4: all these great comedians in New York, and I had
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Speaker 4: great comics, and I also had cheerleaders, and you know,
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Speaker 4: I had actors and actress stand up comics and just
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Speaker 4: all kinds of people, singers and what you know, from
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Speaker 4: all walks of leans. And that was fun. I kind
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Speaker 4: of came into Brondo's world back then. So yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 4: and then we would shamelessly promote whatever, you know, if
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Speaker 4: they had a movie out or a book out, we
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Speaker 4: would promote them. And we had fun with it, and
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Speaker 4: we were kid about how shameless we are. And we
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Speaker 4: would do spoofs off of Lettermen was big at the
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Speaker 4: time and his list of ten and so we would
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Speaker 4: do our own list of craziness. And I had all
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Speaker 4: kinds of fans. I had foot featthers, fans that love
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Speaker 4: my feet and my shoes and all that we would
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Speaker 4: cater to. You know, whoever would really white us and
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Speaker 4: what we pay attention, we would give them a shout
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Speaker 4: out and no, you don't see that happening anymore when
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Speaker 4: you really cater to your fans. Yeah, we did. We
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Speaker 4: took we took the fan mail. We'd have fan mail nights.
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Speaker 4: I'll just ret fan mail.
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Speaker 6: And that was fun, and you would you would also
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Speaker 6: just because you were being yourself and you know it
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Speaker 6: was also you were having fun and you're having fun
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Speaker 6: with it, you know, because you could just go and
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Speaker 6: you know, be yourself and like you said, you do
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Speaker 6: have some scripted jokes, but they allowed you, you know,
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Speaker 6: you were a character and then and you know, that's
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Speaker 6: why I think a lot of today it's just it's
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Speaker 6: harder and harder.
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Speaker 3: It's almost like they.
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Speaker 6: Want to homogenize things in terms of like you know,
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know how it is. So somebody probably
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Speaker 6: looked at, you know, a sheet or something and said, well, hey,
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Speaker 6: people really are responding to this on that show, So
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Speaker 6: what if we you know, what if we did this?
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Speaker 6: And that's why I think happens happens today is you
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Speaker 6: have people who've been looking at like so many numbers
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Speaker 6: and stuff like that that they just think that you know, hey,
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Speaker 6: look we have a formula we've made and if we
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Speaker 6: plug this for you and we're going to make hit
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Speaker 6: after hit after hit, and I think that's what.
17:03
Speaker 4: You are hundred percent right. It's more scientific today than
17:08
Speaker 4: it is organic. And that's that's kind of sad. I
17:11
Speaker 4: because I've like, I've pitched TV shows and in the beginning,
17:15
Speaker 4: I really in the beginning, I mean years ago, I
17:17
Speaker 4: wanted to do reality show because there was so much
17:18
Speaker 4: craziness in my life. You know, I manufacture and produced undergarments,
17:23
Speaker 4: which of course was a you know, came out of
17:25
Speaker 4: wearing so many intimate apparel on up all night. But
17:29
Speaker 4: I you know, I want I thought it was such
17:31
Speaker 4: a such a funny business to be in. I mean,
17:33
Speaker 4: you know, you're actually talking panties and bars. And I
17:37
Speaker 4: pitched it and you know, people, you know, they liked it,
17:40
Speaker 4: but they wanted it. They wanted they wanted to see
17:43
Speaker 4: my husband's my business partner, and they wanted to see
17:45
Speaker 4: us fighting and have him, you know, me being jealous
17:48
Speaker 4: of the models and that I said, that isn't happening.
17:51
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to make up something that's
17:54
Speaker 4: not real. And I mean these producers I had successful,
17:59
Speaker 4: but he actually he kept pushing. You know what your
18:02
Speaker 4: husband's thinking. You're trying to make something happen. It doesn't happen.
18:06
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we just can look at beautiful
18:08
Speaker 4: girls and think they're beautiful, but that doesn't mean he
18:11
Speaker 4: less or once you know that you're trying to make
18:14
Speaker 4: something happen, it's completely untrue. So that's what happens on
18:17
Speaker 4: those reality shows. I think it's kind of yucky. Yeah,
18:21
Speaker 4: you know, so we didn't agree to go down that
18:24
Speaker 4: room at all. I mean, you know that's a bad
18:26
Speaker 4: road to go down.
18:28
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean that would cause you problems off
18:30
Speaker 6: camera as well, because you know.
18:32
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I mean that's just bad. It's just bad.
18:36
Speaker 4: And besides that, it's not who I am. I'm not negative.
18:39
Speaker 4: That's not who I am as a person, and that's
18:41
Speaker 4: not how I talk to my customers, you know. You know,
18:43
Speaker 4: I'm more of a positive, flirty, fun you know, I
18:48
Speaker 4: can't about my husband, but I don't believe in negative
18:52
Speaker 4: and nastiest. I mean a lot of these people end
18:54
Speaker 4: up getting divorces and some bad stuff happening on these
18:56
Speaker 4: reality shows. But and I do think it's the fault
18:59
Speaker 4: of the producer for pushing them down certainds. Oh yeah,
19:04
Speaker 4: I don't need to do that. Yeah, I don't need
19:07
Speaker 4: any of that life as love, as a positives. There's
19:10
Speaker 4: enough negative that happens, you know that you don't want
19:12
Speaker 4: to happen, and there's all these things in business or life,
19:15
Speaker 4: but you don't need to push that into your life.
19:17
Speaker 4: And that's what they want. They always want to have
19:19
Speaker 4: that kind of ying and yang and the fight and
19:22
Speaker 4: people fighting and arguing and pulling hand and I'm not me.
19:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like Jersey Shore.
19:29
Speaker 6: I think that that reality show I think ruined a
19:31
Speaker 6: lot of producers because we need more of that, and
19:33
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, that was so manufacturing and you know,
19:37
Speaker 6: now it's it's like, oh, you know, and or the Kardashians.
19:40
Speaker 3: That was another show.
19:41
Speaker 6: I think that just you know, it was a I
19:45
Speaker 6: think again, like we were talking about formulas, and I
19:48
Speaker 6: think that that was too much of a lot of
19:49
Speaker 6: where producers could look at that and say, hey, see
19:51
Speaker 6: we could be that that show.
19:54
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20:04
Speaker 3: Know, look at what Kim can do from that show.
20:06
Speaker 6: It's like, well, yeah, that's that's not something most people
20:09
Speaker 6: really want.
20:10
Speaker 4: All the housewives shows, you know, that's the fact that
20:13
Speaker 4: they keep me. I've never watched any of them, you know,
20:15
Speaker 4: and people say, I've never seen any of they just
20:17
Speaker 4: don't intreat me or interest me at all. I know
20:20
Speaker 4: what it means. I totally get it. I mean, hey, good,
20:24
Speaker 4: that makes me happy. But you know, I'm like the
20:26
Speaker 4: old session piece of people becoming celebrities because they actually
20:29
Speaker 4: had talent, you know. I mean, I was a stand
20:32
Speaker 4: up comic for many years and the Jerry Seinfelds were
20:34
Speaker 4: around and those people, and that's that's that's where I
20:37
Speaker 4: came from. People had to really be funny and write
20:39
Speaker 4: a good joke. And my days a stand up and
20:43
Speaker 4: a new one was kind of doing the sexiest stand
20:45
Speaker 4: up comedy, female comic comedy at all when I started
20:49
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty four eighty five, and so it was
20:52
Speaker 4: kind of a category even though what to do with me?
20:54
Speaker 4: But I mean, I ended up getting booked and headlining
20:57
Speaker 4: all over. But I mean, nowadays I want to be
21:00
Speaker 4: right in there with the Amy Schumers, but back then
21:02
Speaker 4: they didn't want that. Of course I'm not. I'm a
21:05
Speaker 4: feminist in my own way, but but not the way
21:08
Speaker 4: these women are. Like they may shimmer movies, you know,
21:12
Speaker 4: she's attacking the guy. I'm still that old fashioned at all.
21:15
Speaker 4: That's like I want the guy, you know, coming on
21:19
Speaker 4: to the girl and being slurry. But I don't. I
21:21
Speaker 4: don't like. It's just a I like just a little
21:25
Speaker 4: bit more old fashion in my life. I think it's
21:27
Speaker 4: sex to you. Yeah, but whatever you want to call
21:30
Speaker 4: it out of a gold fashion. But that's just the
21:32
Speaker 4: way I was brought up. And I still think, you know,
21:35
Speaker 4: that's just I still think guys like that at the
21:37
Speaker 4: end of the day. I don't think they wrestle and
21:39
Speaker 4: love aggressive women and that are that aggressive, you can
21:42
Speaker 4: still be a feminist. That's what my book's about. By
21:44
Speaker 4: the way, I do have a book you know that
21:46
Speaker 4: will be actually hitting. It's it's an important prefail right
21:51
Speaker 4: now on Amazon called called Up All Night, and it's
21:55
Speaker 4: the life and journey of an accidental feminist, which I
21:58
Speaker 4: really think my life was because I had so many
22:00
Speaker 4: you know, pageants. I was in this Louisiana. Then I
22:04
Speaker 4: was the Saints cheerleader up at the New Orleans and
22:06
Speaker 4: then I went on to Los Angeles and did Happy Days,
22:11
Speaker 4: and you know, I was co starred on a lot
22:13
Speaker 4: of television, and then eventually Up All Night and then
22:16
Speaker 4: I reunited with my high school sweetheart sixteen years ago
22:20
Speaker 4: and we started to Curt good as I Am on
22:22
Speaker 4: the wand this year brand of intimate apparel, and so
22:26
Speaker 4: it was about, you know, My book covers, you know,
22:28
Speaker 4: my early life. I ran to public office when I
22:31
Speaker 4: was young, and talks about that how I was accepted
22:34
Speaker 4: to law school. But then I went to Hollywood and
22:35
Speaker 4: I was very I was tight cast immediately as a
22:38
Speaker 4: sexy girl, and I thought it, but it just it
22:40
Speaker 4: didn't work. So eventually I just went with it. And
22:43
Speaker 4: so the book has all these life lessons on how
22:46
Speaker 4: to use what's God given. And I mean basically, I
22:50
Speaker 4: was a feminist in my own way and stood up
22:51
Speaker 4: and stood my ground and always did and I always
22:54
Speaker 4: got things my way, but I also used the things
22:57
Speaker 4: that were given to me in life. So I didn't know.
23:00
Speaker 4: I wasn't just aggressive or outwardly aggressive woman, but yeah,
23:04
Speaker 4: I did fight for my own rights, just I did
23:06
Speaker 4: it my way. So the book has a lot of
23:08
Speaker 4: life lessons and tips along with comedy and a lot
23:10
Speaker 4: of pictures from Up All Night and my dunker life.
23:13
Speaker 4: And I'm really excited it actually like I said, it's
23:16
Speaker 4: on presale right now on Amazon called Ronde is Up
23:19
Speaker 4: All Actually it's called up All Night by Ronda Share,
23:24
Speaker 4: but it literally will be out October third, is when everything,
23:32
Speaker 4: you know, it hits Hsen and all the other places.
23:35
Speaker 4: So we're in bookstores. So we're very excited about it.
23:38
Speaker 6: And I'm going to link to that in the show
23:40
Speaker 6: notes everybody, because I actually saw Ron was writing the
23:43
Speaker 6: book and I thought this would be a great time
23:45
Speaker 6: to approach you round about you know, coming on this podcast,
23:48
Speaker 6: because you know, thank you, oh my pleasure, Geed, thanks
23:51
Speaker 6: for you know, for coming on. And I will link
23:53
Speaker 6: to that in the show notes because again I love
23:56
Speaker 6: the title obviously, and again you know some of the
23:58
Speaker 6: things you were just talking about aout using your strengths
24:00
Speaker 6: and you know and using you know, not trying to
24:03
Speaker 6: fight resistance, you know what I mean, Like people were
24:04
Speaker 6: saying to you, you know, hey, you know, hey, rond
24:07
Speaker 6: to this or that the other thing, and you know
24:09
Speaker 6: you just mentioned about you know, finding your your talents
24:11
Speaker 6: and finding what you do what you really like to
24:13
Speaker 6: do and are very good at, and you know you
24:16
Speaker 6: use that and you you were able to you know,
24:18
Speaker 6: build this whole empire you have. Now you have a
24:20
Speaker 6: clothing line, yeah, which.
24:22
Speaker 3: Is doing very well.
24:23
Speaker 6: By the way, I actually, you know, to preap for
24:25
Speaker 6: this interview, I actually looked it up and I didn't
24:28
Speaker 6: know you have like the number one selling bra in
24:29
Speaker 6: the world.
24:30
Speaker 3: I think.
24:31
Speaker 4: Yes, it's called the Abra Opera, which I always believed
24:35
Speaker 4: in taglines, and it's just it's just very comfortable, wireless
24:41
Speaker 4: no hooks and eyes bra. And it took off and
24:44
Speaker 4: started doing it at two thousand and three. That really
24:46
Speaker 4: took off, like in two thousand and nine ten, and
24:50
Speaker 4: then we did an infomercial then well and behold, it
24:52
Speaker 4: became a best selling braw in the world with over
24:54
Speaker 4: thirty five million sold in thirty four countries and would
24:57
Speaker 4: continue to do the bra along with other bra So
25:00
Speaker 4: we basically came up with a category of broads. So
25:04
Speaker 4: and we also started, you know, after a broad and
25:06
Speaker 4: we have the Odd Lifestyle of clothing and now I'm
25:08
Speaker 4: starting to get another loungeer line called Odd Dreams by
25:12
Speaker 4: Ronda Share. So it's really exciting. And this is something
25:15
Speaker 4: that came out of my husband and not getting married
25:17
Speaker 4: and reunited and we started this business just to work
25:19
Speaker 4: together because we hadn't seen each other really since we
25:22
Speaker 4: were kids, and he was living in Louisiana and I
25:25
Speaker 4: was living in Hollywood, and we put this together, never
25:28
Speaker 4: thinking that it would have the success that it did.
25:30
Speaker 4: But you know, we both complimented each other as business
25:33
Speaker 4: people in media, as the spokesperson he you know, behind
25:36
Speaker 4: the scenes and the financial end of it. So very cool.
25:40
Speaker 4: So the book talks about love later in life and
25:43
Speaker 4: finding a soulmate. It talks about you know, becoming an
25:46
Speaker 4: entrepreneur later in life and that you can reinvent at
25:49
Speaker 4: any age, and so I have a lot of tips
25:52
Speaker 4: along with being really funny. I mean, it's a really
25:54
Speaker 4: funny story now in my Hollywood stories and some fun pictures.
25:58
Speaker 4: So I think it's a book for every one to read.
26:00
Speaker 4: Both men and what I mean, we think we'll really
26:02
Speaker 4: enjoy it. So I mean, and I have to say,
26:05
Speaker 4: accomplishing and writing a book is something I always wanted
26:08
Speaker 4: to do, and I actually am getting ready to start
26:11
Speaker 4: my second one because you kind of gets into your blood.
26:13
Speaker 4: But I have to say it's like one of the
26:16
Speaker 4: prouder things that I've done is like, you know, actually
26:20
Speaker 4: writing down because I thought I really feel I have
26:22
Speaker 4: a lot to share with a lot of people, and
26:24
Speaker 4: you also want to remember some of those amazing moments
26:26
Speaker 4: in your life. And because if you know, I get
26:30
Speaker 4: up and I do a lot of speak to it
26:31
Speaker 4: and people love to hear my story and my story
26:35
Speaker 4: with my husband, and you know, it's a very loving
26:38
Speaker 4: tale of two people who were first first loved when
26:42
Speaker 4: met when we were twelve and thirteen, and then getting
26:44
Speaker 4: back together and then starting a business. I mean, gosh,
26:46
Speaker 4: now you never even dream of that. That's why you
26:48
Speaker 4: kind of have to go sometimes where life lead you.
26:51
Speaker 4: And again that's like not manufactured, so people want you
26:53
Speaker 4: to manifacture this stuff. And I just feel like you
26:55
Speaker 4: have to be really real in life and very authentic
26:58
Speaker 4: and stick with whatever you're doing, and you know, all
27:02
Speaker 4: dreams can come true.
27:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, you mentioned about reinventing yourself. You know, if there's
27:08
Speaker 6: one thing I've learned about this podcast is I've taught
27:10
Speaker 6: interviewed people from all walks of life, and one thing
27:13
Speaker 6: that they've all sort of mentioned mentioned is one way
27:17
Speaker 6: or another is reinventing themselves. You know, some people they
27:20
Speaker 6: didn't they didn't pick up a camera until they you know,
27:23
Speaker 6: they were forty fifty years old and they were able
27:25
Speaker 6: to go out and make films and you know, some
27:27
Speaker 6: people they ended up, you know, winning Sun Dance and
27:30
Speaker 6: they ended up just sort of, you know, doing something
27:33
Speaker 6: completely different now. And you know, it's just it's amazing.
27:37
Speaker 4: It's taking chances, dates and a lot of so, you know,
27:41
Speaker 4: and my husband and I got together. He was living
27:43
Speaker 4: in the Mousian, I was living again in La We
27:45
Speaker 4: took a chance and we moved to Florida after a
27:48
Speaker 4: couple of years to start our business with Home Shopping Network,
27:51
Speaker 4: which is known as HSM now it's branded as HCM.
27:54
Speaker 4: Is located in Florida, so we see you to we
27:56
Speaker 4: moved here that it would really help our business move
27:59
Speaker 4: it along be in front of the white people, and
28:01
Speaker 4: it did. But so many people are so complacent where
28:05
Speaker 4: they live and what they do that they won't take
28:07
Speaker 4: that chance. So it's one of the things I always
28:09
Speaker 4: told long entrepreneurs and all people is that sometimes you
28:12
Speaker 4: have what's the worst that will happen. You can always
28:15
Speaker 4: go back home or back but it's where you began.
28:18
Speaker 4: But if you don't take a chance at something, and
28:20
Speaker 4: people get stuck in ruts and won't do it. So
28:23
Speaker 4: when you talk about these people, I am sure I
28:26
Speaker 4: interview with people. I am sure that they all took chances,
28:28
Speaker 4: and there's some of us that will do that and
28:30
Speaker 4: some that won't. So I always like to encourage people
28:33
Speaker 4: that hey, it's cool, it's okay, go for it. Nothing
28:37
Speaker 4: bad will happen. You'll always wonder in your life if
28:40
Speaker 4: you don't. Just like you doing the podcast, I mean,
28:42
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's amazing that you keep learning things, and
28:46
Speaker 4: you know, it's amazing to interview people in here how
28:49
Speaker 4: they've made it or how they've changed. And you know,
28:52
Speaker 4: I use the word reinvent. It's not even that I
28:55
Speaker 4: started out to invent and I going to get married.
28:58
Speaker 4: We both had to change, you know, directions career for
29:01
Speaker 4: different reasons. Now. You know, I wasn't twenty one the
29:05
Speaker 4: sexy girl stuff anymore. Not that I couldn't be the
29:08
Speaker 4: sexy older girl. But you know, you have to be
29:10
Speaker 4: real and where you are in your life. And yet
29:12
Speaker 4: I didn't want to stop working. So it's just like, okay,
29:15
Speaker 4: let me continue doing something that is I love, near
29:18
Speaker 4: and dear to me. I can still be myself, but
29:21
Speaker 4: it's just another extension of myself and my husband as well.
29:25
Speaker 4: He was a businessman. He had never done anything in
29:27
Speaker 4: the obviously apparel world, but he just applied everything that
29:32
Speaker 4: he knew about business to what we're doing. Same thing.
29:35
Speaker 4: So a lot of people are just afraid to do
29:37
Speaker 4: that and no reason to be. So, you know, living
29:42
Speaker 4: in my dream house in Florida, I've got the five
29:45
Speaker 4: dogs very happy, and we don't know what real life
29:49
Speaker 4: will take us next. The book is exciting because that's
29:51
Speaker 4: kind of taking me on another journey. I'm getting offers
29:54
Speaker 4: to mixed speeches and appearances and some TV talk shows and.
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Speaker 1: And now back to the show.
30:11
Speaker 4: Just hired a publicist and he's got some really exciting plans,
30:14
Speaker 4: and we're to do a book signing in New Orleans
30:19
Speaker 4: the weekend of October the twenty seventh, and then which
30:23
Speaker 4: is a fun weekend because it goes almost right into Halloween.
30:26
Speaker 4: And then we're going to do a book signing here
30:28
Speaker 4: in Florida Saint Petersburg, Tampa area the weekend of October fourteenth.
30:34
Speaker 4: So you know, just those two things I am so
30:37
Speaker 4: excited about because I'm sure I'll get a lot of
30:39
Speaker 4: my up all night fans. I'm sure I'll have some
30:41
Speaker 4: fans from who watched me on HCN and our big
30:44
Speaker 4: you know, customers of my brand. So it's me, you know,
30:49
Speaker 4: just you just living life, don't. I don't look back
30:52
Speaker 4: and go, gee, I wish I was still the sage
30:54
Speaker 4: or I still wish I was. I just looked forward
30:56
Speaker 4: and think, wow, I still got time to do accomplish
31:00
Speaker 4: a lot more. Yeah, it's fun.
31:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And you probably took a chance writing that
31:06
Speaker 6: book because you know, I have a friend of mine
31:08
Speaker 6: who's a professional author, and he said, if you actually
31:10
Speaker 6: think about writing a book and what it really is,
31:13
Speaker 6: he goes, you know, it's only been around for this
31:16
Speaker 6: little sliver in human history and being able to you know,
31:20
Speaker 6: write an actual book, put it together. And then he said,
31:23
Speaker 6: if you look at it again, in the world that
31:25
Speaker 6: we live in now, Rhonda, you know, you can put
31:26
Speaker 6: you make a kindle version, you can do self polishing,
31:29
Speaker 6: you can go through a publisher.
31:30
Speaker 3: You have a lot of options. Yeah, and that's even
31:31
Speaker 3: a smaller sliver.
31:32
Speaker 6: And he said, if you think about how it actually
31:34
Speaker 6: what it means to write a book, he goes, you
31:36
Speaker 6: as a human being, are sitting down and writing you know,
31:40
Speaker 6: five digits, you know, in words. So it's a couple
31:43
Speaker 6: of thousands upon thousands of words and compiling it together
31:46
Speaker 6: all these thoughts, and I mean it's time consuming, and
31:49
Speaker 6: I mean you probably thought to yourself, you know, hey,
31:50
Speaker 6: I could write this book or I could go do
31:52
Speaker 6: another thing.
31:53
Speaker 3: I mean, and so you really have to make a choice.
31:55
Speaker 4: Thank you, I love it. Your son put it that way.
31:58
Speaker 4: I've never thought about it, but it's true, and I did.
32:02
Speaker 4: I did put it off for years and then I
32:04
Speaker 4: because I've been wanting to do it, but I just
32:06
Speaker 4: felt like it was the right time with everything that
32:07
Speaker 4: was going on in my life. So finally I just
32:09
Speaker 4: sat down. I did have a ghost writer that kind
32:12
Speaker 4: of put my thoughts into the right order, and then
32:15
Speaker 4: I completely rewrote what he did, and then he loved
32:20
Speaker 4: what I did. I mean, I literally took it and
32:23
Speaker 4: started not over, but just you know, it had to
32:26
Speaker 4: have my voice completely. And then after that he then
32:31
Speaker 4: took that and really pulled it together. So it was
32:34
Speaker 4: a really you know, because I had never structured a book,
32:37
Speaker 4: and as a new author, you really have to have
32:40
Speaker 4: that right structure so you know, it holds people's attention
32:44
Speaker 4: and it's my life could even when Tim Tim is
32:47
Speaker 4: my Tim Vanda Hayes, my ghostwriter's name. He's fabulous and
32:50
Speaker 4: I don't mind admitting it at all, but he he
32:54
Speaker 4: just you know, really made me understand, you know that
32:58
Speaker 4: the process and again holding the attention. And we went
33:02
Speaker 4: back and forth of how because a lot of mine
33:05
Speaker 4: seeing start in one part of my life, so it
33:08
Speaker 4: kind of like goes back and it keeps going back
33:10
Speaker 4: to certain stories. So I think that's where I needed
33:13
Speaker 4: help because I would started saying, if I start from
33:16
Speaker 4: the very beginning, then it's going to get boring if
33:17
Speaker 4: I just go through my life. So we would start,
33:20
Speaker 4: you know, we started like you know, a certain birthday,
33:22
Speaker 4: and then we told some stories there. So it's very compelling.
33:25
Speaker 4: I'm very excited about it. And again we put the
33:29
Speaker 4: life lessons in. We also put like basically like a
33:32
Speaker 4: bubble over my head, so I express to the reader
33:37
Speaker 4: what is going on in my head, like even what
33:39
Speaker 4: I was thinking when I was in a beauty pageant,
33:42
Speaker 4: you know, So how did I feel when I was
33:44
Speaker 4: on stage and in front of an audience with just
33:46
Speaker 4: a swimsuit on. Even though I was young, I never
33:49
Speaker 4: really you know, what was going on in your mind,
33:52
Speaker 4: And I think that really gives an insight to the
33:55
Speaker 4: people who read it of what was really happening in
33:57
Speaker 4: my head and what motivated me to continue to do
34:00
Speaker 4: what I did through life and just really excited about it.
34:04
Speaker 4: So the second book that I'm already concocting in my
34:08
Speaker 4: brain is perfect because it has to do with self
34:12
Speaker 4: body image and how we look in the mirror as women.
34:14
Speaker 4: So that covers my brand, but it also covers you know,
34:19
Speaker 4: who I am, and then how you know some life,
34:21
Speaker 4: you know, you gain weight, you lose weight, you know,
34:23
Speaker 4: you get women become self conscious, but then you know,
34:26
Speaker 4: So it deals with it, and I'm going to do
34:28
Speaker 4: it with a lot of levity and a lot of comedy.
34:30
Speaker 4: So I'm already putting thoughts down about that, And then
34:33
Speaker 4: I could put a lot of the stories that I
34:35
Speaker 4: couldn't fit into the book. I can add those stories
34:37
Speaker 4: back into because it was hard when we edited it
34:40
Speaker 4: that I you know, a lot of the stories I
34:42
Speaker 4: would have loved in were taken out, but you can't
34:44
Speaker 4: put everything in. This way, I get to put back
34:48
Speaker 4: a few of the stories and add to it until
34:52
Speaker 4: some more tales because I do kiss and tell a
34:53
Speaker 4: little bit in the book about some of my Hollywood
34:56
Speaker 4: stories and people I dated, and that's kind of fun,
34:59
Speaker 4: and it's not done. It's just, you know, it's just
35:03
Speaker 4: just just real. There's nothing in it that isn't one
35:06
Speaker 4: hundred percent authentic and real. So that's cool. What your
35:11
Speaker 4: friend said was the author I could see becoming very
35:14
Speaker 4: addicted to that now. When I wrote my book, though,
35:16
Speaker 4: here was the only obstacle I had. So I've got
35:18
Speaker 4: these four little schwallas in New York. So I'm sitting
35:20
Speaker 4: there writing and they wouldn't let me write at my desk,
35:23
Speaker 4: so I had to write downstairs on the couch on
35:26
Speaker 4: the computer, and basically they were climbing over me. So
35:30
Speaker 4: months and months of dogs climbing. Now, I think that
35:33
Speaker 4: takes a special talent to be able to have dogs
35:36
Speaker 4: on your computer and write more so than anything. But
35:43
Speaker 4: it's a great feat when you finish it and you
35:45
Speaker 4: find then the only thing is this is when you
35:48
Speaker 4: need Sometimes I think you definitely need an editor, but
35:51
Speaker 4: because you just like don't know when you think it's over,
35:54
Speaker 4: and then you think of oh, I have this one
35:56
Speaker 4: more thing, and then you need that other eye, even
36:00
Speaker 4: outside of my husband whoever read, to look at it
36:02
Speaker 4: and go, Okay, you're done, you don't need You'll write
36:05
Speaker 4: again and you'll put it in there. So it is
36:08
Speaker 4: an interesting process, especially your first book.
36:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's funny because the friend of mine,
36:14
Speaker 6: who's an author, who actually said that to me. He
36:17
Speaker 6: said the first because you know, he and I would
36:18
Speaker 6: would talk back and forth, and I've actually had him
36:20
Speaker 6: on this podcast before and he said to me that
36:24
Speaker 6: the hardest part about anything is actually starting it. And
36:27
Speaker 6: I said, well, what's the second hardest part? And he
36:29
Speaker 6: goes finishing it? And I said yes, because because you,
36:34
Speaker 6: just like you said, you get stuck in the endless
36:35
Speaker 6: loop of rewrites like oh should I keep this now?
36:38
Speaker 3: Should not keep right? And then you just have to
36:40
Speaker 3: get out your own head.
36:42
Speaker 4: I mean that's what I did. I completely rewrote, you know,
36:44
Speaker 4: I completely rewrote it from scratch and and and then
36:49
Speaker 4: it took a different turn. But you know, at the
36:51
Speaker 4: end of the day, it's exactly where I want it
36:52
Speaker 4: to be because I think what it was, desperately it
36:55
Speaker 4: was more autobiographical in the beginning, and I do have
36:58
Speaker 4: a book agent, and even though self published it, we
37:02
Speaker 4: may still bring it to you know, major publishing house,
37:05
Speaker 4: which you can do now. And my I do have
37:08
Speaker 4: a book agent in Los Angeles. And when he first started,
37:11
Speaker 4: it's great, it's autobiographical. I can't believe all the things
37:14
Speaker 4: you've done in your life. It's amazing. But the big
37:17
Speaker 4: publishing houses don't necessarily buy complete autobiographical books now, and
37:25
Speaker 4: he's he's a really big book agent who deals with
37:28
Speaker 4: just the big houses, you know. So he said, I
37:30
Speaker 4: think it needs to have more insight, and I didn't
37:35
Speaker 4: know how to do that. At first. I didn't. I
37:37
Speaker 4: couldn't figure it out. I couldn't figure out how to
37:39
Speaker 4: take what I had already and then you know, make
37:43
Speaker 4: it insightful. So that's when when I started thinking of
37:46
Speaker 4: the bubble, you know, like people always don't know what
37:47
Speaker 4: is that person really thinking, you know, and so it
37:50
Speaker 4: became like the bubble over my head. And then also
37:54
Speaker 4: each chapter will have life lessons that I learned at
37:56
Speaker 4: that part of my life. So it really goes back
37:58
Speaker 4: to my has my up all my ears, it has
38:01
Speaker 4: my you know, years as a miss Louisiana. And my
38:06
Speaker 4: New Orleans upbringing. I mean it's and that in itself
38:09
Speaker 4: is interesting to grow up in New Orleans and then
38:12
Speaker 4: finding love. So each each each chapter really has something
38:17
Speaker 4: for everybody entrepreneur. I think will give a lot of
38:20
Speaker 4: people insight to how to start a business and how
38:23
Speaker 4: to keep going with it and not give up. So
38:27
Speaker 4: you know, I think, you know, it tells the story
38:28
Speaker 4: of my life, but it also has lessons. I think
38:31
Speaker 4: it's important to you know, even if someone has no
38:34
Speaker 4: idea who I am, and they will pick it up
38:36
Speaker 4: and just read, Okay, this is a woman who you
38:39
Speaker 4: know when I started. If like I can call it
38:43
Speaker 4: kind of the Bill Cosby years, because when I was
38:46
Speaker 4: in Hollywood, you know, we don't know what who knows
38:49
Speaker 4: what happened and what didn't happen then, But I can
38:51
Speaker 4: tell you I was in Hollywood in the eighties and
38:55
Speaker 4: in that era, and guys would push themselves on you,
38:59
Speaker 4: and they would I'd say, if you don't sleep with me,
39:02
Speaker 4: you are I will get you black ball from the business. Now,
39:06
Speaker 4: I never went down that route. Maybe if I would have,
39:08
Speaker 4: I would have been a bigger star, but it wasn't
39:11
Speaker 4: who I am. I always kid about that if I
39:13
Speaker 4: was slept around, maybe you know, I would have worked
39:15
Speaker 4: if it wasn't me. I was. I came from this nice,
39:17
Speaker 4: southern strict family and it wasn't who I was. I mean,
39:22
Speaker 4: it just wasn't. You know. I had I had boyfriends,
39:24
Speaker 4: but they weren't you know. I never chose the big
39:26
Speaker 4: producer types that came after me, but we need some
39:28
Speaker 4: big big ones came through my life, but no one
39:31
Speaker 4: was going to push that down my throat and pardoned
39:34
Speaker 4: the con But you know it was I was not
39:36
Speaker 4: going down that road of I had to live with myself.
39:40
Speaker 4: So you know, everything I got, I got on my own.
39:42
Speaker 4: I didn't have family in the business. I knew no
39:44
Speaker 4: when when I first got to Hollywood, and literally I
39:47
Speaker 4: just did it the old fashioned way of auditioning. Well, yeah,
39:51
Speaker 4: when you look at Hollywood today, this connection and it
39:53
Speaker 4: is who your father and mother is. But I moved
39:56
Speaker 4: here I didn't know.
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Speaker 4: So I'm proud of that. I'm proud that I got
40:12
Speaker 4: where I got on my own, and you know, did
40:15
Speaker 4: get a name for myself and did end up the
40:18
Speaker 4: headlining at a stand up comic when I was told
40:21
Speaker 4: you're too pretty or you're too sexy to be a comedian,
40:23
Speaker 4: and I was like, to hell with that, I will
40:25
Speaker 4: do it. I stood in line at the comedy store
40:27
Speaker 4: until I got on stage in the amprov until finally
40:30
Speaker 4: I got all the way up to headlining. And so,
40:33
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I really accomplished things that
40:35
Speaker 4: I wanted to. And pretty much the book talks about,
40:38
Speaker 4: you know, whenever anybody would tell me I couldn't do something,
40:41
Speaker 4: it would make me try harder. I mean, I've been
40:43
Speaker 4: told about my whole life. I was I was either
40:45
Speaker 4: too twenty or too sexy to do this, or I
40:49
Speaker 4: was you know, ahead of my time. Do I stand
40:51
Speaker 4: up on shore dresses minnise girls know I was doing it?
40:54
Speaker 4: It had to like be a flumpy mother or or
40:58
Speaker 4: you know, even in even in my lingerie business, you
41:00
Speaker 4: can't do that. There's too many other brands I there.
41:02
Speaker 4: You can't start who's going to buy the brand? So
41:05
Speaker 4: pretty much my whole life has been you can't and
41:08
Speaker 4: I have. So that just shows you that anybody can
41:12
Speaker 4: do it if you If you you just can't listen
41:14
Speaker 4: to negativity. I am a glass half full person, not
41:17
Speaker 4: a half empty person, and I think that makes a
41:20
Speaker 4: difference just who you are, you know. And so when
41:23
Speaker 4: I started the book, I'm like, well, well, anybody read it?
41:25
Speaker 4: I really feel like, you know, after having the few
41:28
Speaker 4: people I have that have read it, they have, and
41:30
Speaker 4: people that are like major people like you know, I
41:34
Speaker 4: have a friend who's one of the presidents at MGM,
41:37
Speaker 4: and he loves the book, and that really made me
41:39
Speaker 4: feel good because these people had a lot of a
41:42
Speaker 4: lot of manuscripts go past their death. So who knows,
41:45
Speaker 4: maybe one day it'll be a book. I mean, not
41:48
Speaker 4: a book, a movie, you know, not hopefully not a
41:51
Speaker 4: B movie. But I'll take a brooded too. I'm fine
41:54
Speaker 4: with that.
41:55
Speaker 6: It would be really a meta if you actually introduced
41:57
Speaker 6: it on like a special edition of USA Up All
41:59
Speaker 6: Night in movie.
42:01
Speaker 4: Well, you know what's really funny, Dave, was the very
42:04
Speaker 4: first thing I did on the All Night was the
42:06
Speaker 4: very first movie I ever introduced was, or rather on
42:10
Speaker 4: USA All right, was Basic Training, which is a movie
42:13
Speaker 4: I started which had like three seconds of toplessness, which
42:19
Speaker 4: I was mortified to do at the time. It was
42:21
Speaker 4: in my contract that it didn't have to be more
42:23
Speaker 4: than three seconds. And of course I went on to
42:25
Speaker 4: do Playboy in ninety one called Girls of the of Comedy,
42:31
Speaker 4: which I actually brought that idea to them, and then
42:34
Speaker 4: that next year up All Night had like taken office,
42:37
Speaker 4: so they came back and offered me a celebrity pictorial
42:40
Speaker 4: and so that was really cool. So you know, I
42:42
Speaker 4: have you know, the book also talks about my Playboy
42:45
Speaker 4: years and going to the Mansion, so a lot of
42:47
Speaker 4: people like that in itself, you know, because I did
42:50
Speaker 4: go to the Mansion for many many years. Actually I
42:52
Speaker 4: had a line with Crystal Hefner a couple of years back.
42:56
Speaker 4: You know, I should say the last Missus Haffen. I
43:00
Speaker 4: believe the last Missus Haffen who is still Missus heffsnot.
43:04
Speaker 4: But you know, so you know, just just thwomps through
43:07
Speaker 4: all those kind of interesting things, uh and along with
43:11
Speaker 4: you know, I do a lot of charity, wook, and
43:13
Speaker 4: it talks about that giving back once you've kind of
43:15
Speaker 4: hit a certain spot in life. You we enjoy my
43:18
Speaker 4: husband and I, you know, getting back to the community
43:20
Speaker 4: and kind of hits all that.
43:24
Speaker 3: But you mentioned them.
43:26
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, have you mentioned the Comedy Store. I just
43:28
Speaker 6: want to ask this for I forget you mentioned the
43:30
Speaker 6: Comedy Store. Did you ever meet a comedian there named
43:33
Speaker 6: Don Barris?
43:35
Speaker 4: Okay doesn't name from what what how old or what era?
43:40
Speaker 4: What era of He he.
43:43
Speaker 6: Started in the nineties, like the early nineties. He was
43:47
Speaker 6: there and now he's like the he does the the
43:49
Speaker 6: he's the headliner on the Ding Dong Show on the
43:51
Speaker 6: Monday nights.
43:53
Speaker 4: Oh maybe that's why I may know the saying that
43:55
Speaker 4: kind of and the probable I mean that would have
43:57
Speaker 4: I still would have been out there. Of course in
43:59
Speaker 4: ninety one because of me. I was still on the
44:01
Speaker 4: still on the road, gosh, I mean I was on
44:03
Speaker 4: the road until I mean I still actually occasionally do stuff,
44:07
Speaker 4: but definitely up into like two thousand and six or seven,
44:11
Speaker 4: I was still, you know, out there. So I guess
44:14
Speaker 4: I know a name from that, but I can't say
44:17
Speaker 4: I remember, like medium, I just thought maybe I'm like,
44:26
Speaker 4: I'm thinking like maybe I dated them, and I don't remember.
44:31
Speaker 6: He's been out there for years and he actually does
44:33
Speaker 6: like a lot of work with the Comedy Store.
44:35
Speaker 3: Every night he's there, and.
44:37
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, his name was really familiar to me, absolutely.
44:41
Speaker 3: Because he was like him and Mark Maron are really
44:43
Speaker 3: good friends.
44:46
Speaker 4: Okay, well I am sure that we came across each other,
44:49
Speaker 4: but that would have been during my up all night years.
44:52
Speaker 4: He's really funny, you know. And and I've met so
44:55
Speaker 4: many people to my life, like through New Orleans and
44:57
Speaker 4: then my comedy years and even might now a power
45:00
Speaker 4: of years ago. I know that name. There's there's a
45:03
Speaker 4: comedy comic out that's doing really well, nate out there
45:08
Speaker 4: now named Sebastian. Do you know who he is? Okay,
45:13
Speaker 4: if you, if you, if you just google, Sebastian will
45:16
Speaker 4: come up comic. I can never pronounce his last name right,
45:18
Speaker 4: but anyway, he's major. He is like major, like major shows,
45:23
Speaker 4: major showtime, all that stuff. And Sebastian used to wait
45:27
Speaker 4: on me as a waiter at the Fourth Seasons bar
45:30
Speaker 4: I want to go There was around the corner from
45:32
Speaker 4: my house in Beverley Health and we'd go there and
45:34
Speaker 4: he was funny and he would say to me, I
45:36
Speaker 4: was on up all night at the time, and he
45:37
Speaker 4: would say, I want to be you. You know, La
45:41
Speaker 4: has a lot of way those that are actors, you know,
45:43
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the only one thing I didn't do.
45:46
Speaker 4: But you know people that legitimately that's that's their job,
45:49
Speaker 4: that's their day job with their night job. And he
45:51
Speaker 4: would say, I really admire. It's really sweet because he
45:53
Speaker 4: goes would I admire he was a female comic, and
45:56
Speaker 4: he when he took off, he took off. I mean
45:59
Speaker 4: he really took them. And I didn't even realize it
46:01
Speaker 4: because I've been so out of the loop myself, just
46:03
Speaker 4: doing my own thing in the last few years. And
46:06
Speaker 4: then I came across from like on social media, and
46:08
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I'm proud of you. I mean,
46:11
Speaker 4: you know, because he said he was doing going to
46:12
Speaker 4: do it, and he did it, and he's got a
46:15
Speaker 4: whole different take. So yeah, I you know, stand up
46:18
Speaker 4: comedy is a really rough road. Most of my friends
46:21
Speaker 4: that even started, like I started in mayby four, but
46:24
Speaker 4: most of my friends has started in eighty four are
46:25
Speaker 4: still doing stand up. People usually don't leave that world.
46:29
Speaker 4: And the cool thing is you can get older and
46:32
Speaker 4: still do comedy, but you just have to find kind
46:34
Speaker 4: of different venues because you know, it is a younger
46:37
Speaker 4: world at the comedy club. So then people move to ships,
46:39
Speaker 4: they do boats, they do you know, comedy cruises, they
46:43
Speaker 4: do theater, you know, so you can keep at it.
46:46
Speaker 4: But I have to say I'm not I'm happy, Dave,
46:48
Speaker 4: and I'm not out there on the road doing that
46:50
Speaker 4: for a living. Although every now and then there's a
46:53
Speaker 4: piece of me that, you know, my friend will come
46:55
Speaker 4: to town, Carol mcgommery, she's hysterical out of New York,
46:58
Speaker 4: and she gets up at the club and I and
47:00
Speaker 4: I'll have a couple of glass of wine and I'll
47:02
Speaker 4: be like, I want to do what you do. She's like, no,
47:05
Speaker 4: you don't want to give up your life. Your life
47:08
Speaker 4: is good. I said, well, it's still it's still in
47:11
Speaker 4: my blood, you know, to make people laugh, and it's
47:14
Speaker 4: still like it once it's in your blood, it's your blood.
47:17
Speaker 4: But every now and then I do Rhonda's Pajama Party
47:20
Speaker 4: and then I'll host it and I'll do the stand
47:22
Speaker 4: up and then I have like four other females and
47:24
Speaker 4: sometimes I put a male comic in this. So maybe
47:27
Speaker 4: with the book coming out, we'll do that again, which
47:28
Speaker 4: would be really cool.
47:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just gonna say when the book comes
47:31
Speaker 6: When the book comes out, if you do like a tour,
47:34
Speaker 6: like you know, if there are a tour, you get
47:35
Speaker 6: like another taste of it. So then at the end
47:37
Speaker 6: round you cry to be like, well, you know what,
47:39
Speaker 6: I got it out of my system again.
47:40
Speaker 3: But now I'm gonna I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm not
47:43
Speaker 3: I'm not doing this again for until the next book.
47:45
Speaker 4: Right exactly exactly, but I do. But you know, what
47:50
Speaker 4: I love doing is to speaking tours. So I'm excited
47:54
Speaker 4: about that because I get a lot of it doing.
47:56
Speaker 4: You know, we want Arst Young and all these major
47:59
Speaker 4: entrepreneurial for the SPRA and I mean I didn't even
48:02
Speaker 4: think about myself as an entrepreneur, you know, but all
48:04
Speaker 4: of a sudden we're winning all these awards and it
48:07
Speaker 4: was amazing. So I found myself being asked to speak
48:11
Speaker 4: locally and regionally, and all of a sudden, I'm getting
48:16
Speaker 4: up making these speeches about being an entrepreneur but I'm funny,
48:19
Speaker 4: and then they're asking questions spent my Hollywood background. So
48:24
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. I mean, I had never done
48:26
Speaker 4: just speaking without doing stand up obviously, so I'm really
48:30
Speaker 4: excited that now I'm being submitted and being asked to
48:33
Speaker 4: speak because you know, there's there's there's a few comedic speakers,
48:37
Speaker 4: but not many that can, you know, just talk about
48:40
Speaker 4: their life and how they did it. So I'm looking
48:42
Speaker 4: forward to doing that. It's a little bit of stand
48:45
Speaker 4: up and it's a little bit of you know, information getting.
48:48
Speaker 4: So I look forward to that too. That maybe who
48:51
Speaker 4: knows that that may be the next the next sort
48:54
Speaker 4: of stand up comedy. It will just be you know,
48:55
Speaker 4: entrepreneurs speak at sieeches.
48:58
Speaker 6: You have to do like a different posts podcast too,
49:00
Speaker 6: like Johnny Dumas's podcast I'm Just Throw on Fire.
49:04
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've heard of his podcast.
49:05
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's like the one podcast in the world
49:08
Speaker 6: right up there, like Mark Maren's and like this is
49:11
Speaker 6: your American life and but but you know that's good.
49:14
Speaker 4: So you don't have to help me get this is
49:15
Speaker 4: kind of all near to me too, you know when
49:17
Speaker 4: you have your head to you know, I I've been
49:20
Speaker 4: a very focused person in my world. So you know,
49:23
Speaker 4: my life has been Women's for Daily and Fashion and
49:26
Speaker 4: so I'm pretty excited about opening this new chapter of
49:30
Speaker 4: Like you said during podcasts, I mean I did Gilbert Godfrey.
49:34
Speaker 4: If you talk about dirty, you're telling me I can
49:36
Speaker 4: be uncensored. If you ever go Google. I'm sure hopefully
49:40
Speaker 4: I'll do it again talk about my book. But if
49:42
Speaker 4: you if you Google and find the roch to Share
49:44
Speaker 4: podcast with Gilbert Godfreed, you might it is beyond dirty.
49:50
Speaker 4: It is like I mean, he and I when we
49:52
Speaker 4: get together, I don't know what it is, but he
49:54
Speaker 4: brings out the naughty and man, he's naughty, but he
49:57
Speaker 4: think it's naughtier.
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Speaker 4: It's pretty funny. I mean, you know, I've had people
50:13
Speaker 4: say they were walking down the street and listening to
50:16
Speaker 4: it and laughing out loud, people like staring at them.
50:18
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was pretty funny because he could do impression.
50:22
Speaker 4: So I would name different guys, you know, from my
50:24
Speaker 4: pastor in Hollywood, and then he would go off and
50:26
Speaker 4: just do an impression of them and you're just laughing,
50:29
Speaker 4: you know. So he's one of the quotes on the
50:31
Speaker 4: back of my book that you know, says to buy
50:35
Speaker 4: the book. And then I have Mindy Grossman on the back,
50:38
Speaker 4: who's the CEO of Weight Watchers and was the CEO
50:40
Speaker 4: of HSN major business person. And then I have Joy
50:44
Speaker 4: mcgano who the movie Joy was written about, so pretty
50:50
Speaker 4: pretty exciting, plus a lot of other friends on the
50:52
Speaker 4: inside and celebrities, but it kind of hit show business
50:56
Speaker 4: and entrepreneurs and the CEOs. So I'm really excited. I
51:01
Speaker 4: know I'm talking more about the book, but I guess
51:03
Speaker 4: it's just that I'm really excited about it a lot.
51:05
Speaker 4: With my line. Listen, you know, please go to wandashare
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Speaker 4: dot com, go to HSN dot com check out. I
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Speaker 4: had this full, amazing line of everything from the most
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Speaker 4: amazing undergarments to lounge wear, and I was really into it.
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Speaker 4: We literally designed everything in house here in Florida, and
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Speaker 4: then we manufacture all over the world and a lot
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Speaker 4: of a lot of my most of my apparel, like
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Speaker 4: my clothing is made in the USA, and then a
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Speaker 4: lot of my other pieces are made in Turkey and
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Speaker 4: we make it China. But we use beautiful factories with
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Speaker 4: real high quality everything. So that's very exciting too. And
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Speaker 4: when you get into that world, and that was listen to.
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Speaker 4: My husband and I taught ourselves. We didn't come from
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Speaker 4: that world at all. I came from a background show business.
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Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, you know, we're reaching out to
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Speaker 4: factories and you know that was quite an interesting time
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Speaker 4: in our lives too. But again, you're never too old
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Speaker 4: to read to recreate too well, reinvent and find another
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Speaker 4: career and find love, find all those wonderful things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that is such a wonderful signment, Ronda.
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Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean I will definitely send you the
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Speaker 6: links to to the podcast I just mentioned.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Just check them out because.
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Speaker 4: Please, I want, I want to put it up for sure.
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Speaker 4: There goes my dog. They knew, they knew the end
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Speaker 4: of the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they can feel, they can feel. Yeah, we haven't talked.
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Speaker 4: You're like, mommy, I'm hungry. I must I must acknowledge
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Speaker 4: their names. We have Chicky, Tiki, Sweetie, Lexi, and Brandy,
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Speaker 4: like two and a half are rescues. When I got
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Speaker 4: it at a notion, she's kind of a rescue.
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Speaker 6: And now you mentioned your names are probably like now
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Speaker 6: even more eager because they're not the Probably they're probably like,
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Speaker 6: what yea is it? Do we do something that you
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Speaker 6: know what's going on? But I will link to everything
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Speaker 6: Randa that you mentioned.
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Speaker 4: You you know, you're.
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Speaker 3: Just quickly before we before we.
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Speaker 6: Sign off on this episode of the podcast, I just
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Speaker 6: have one final question, and I just want to ask,
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Speaker 6: is there anything that you might want to just you know,
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Speaker 6: talk about or discuss, or is there anything you want
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Speaker 6: to just to say to sort of sum up this
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Speaker 6: whole podcast interview.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, just summing up is like I am
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Speaker 4: a positive person. Everybody out there is to think positive
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Speaker 4: and try to run from negativity. I mean, just don't
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Speaker 4: surround yourself with negativity and don't listen. I mean always,
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Speaker 4: I always like to say, put a stake in it
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Speaker 4: and go for it. In your life, joy your life,
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Speaker 4: Savor your life. I love food, I love everything. You know,
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Speaker 4: I in moderation obviously, you know I love fine wine.
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Speaker 4: But I say, enjoy life, Enjoy the journey of your
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Speaker 4: life and of your business, and then it's fun and
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Speaker 4: just don't be negative. So that kind of sums up
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Speaker 4: my life. And I've had a had a wonderful life
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Speaker 4: so far, and I hopefully and will continue to be amazing.
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Speaker 4: Who knows where I'll on up next, maybe doing a podcast,
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Speaker 4: who knows, but but I thank you Dave. It's been
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Speaker 4: wonder fall. And I just I know you're gonna link.
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Speaker 4: But I do have a website two or a web
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Speaker 4: page of rondasher speaks dot com. So that's for anybody
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Speaker 4: who is interested in having me as a speaker, along
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Speaker 4: with rondashare dot com and of course Amazon with the book.
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Speaker 4: And I know that you'll promote the rest. And I
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Speaker 4: thank you so much.
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Speaker 6: My pleasure, Ronda, Ronda, it has been so great talking
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Speaker 6: to you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dave, it really has. Again.
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Speaker 6: I I used to watch us ample night all the time.
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Speaker 6: Uh you know, I know I've already mentioned that, but
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Speaker 6: I thought I mentioned it again. I mean because of you,
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Speaker 6: I found the Toxic Avenger and I've had Lloyd on
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Speaker 6: the show.
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Speaker 4: I love Lloyd. The last big film I did, he
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Speaker 4: was in it. We had a scene together. Oh and
54:42
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like a like a bad prisoner,
54:44
Speaker 4: of course, because that's what maybe it was. What's the
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Speaker 4: name of the film, I can't remember, but anyway, but
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Speaker 4: we actually won Best Film of the Best BET Film
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Speaker 4: of the Year. But anyway, I love Lloyd. Lloyd used
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Speaker 4: to come on up all night all the time, and
54:59
Speaker 4: TOXI came on. I mean literally, he was one of
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Speaker 4: my regular guests. So he's He's a great guy, isn't
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Speaker 4: brilliant brilliant man? Great guy.
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Speaker 6: It was funny really really really quick because I know
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Speaker 6: you have to run really quickly. When he came on
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Speaker 6: the podcast, he said that he started trauma in prison
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Speaker 6: with him and Michael Hurts because and he was like, well,
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Speaker 6: I was Michael's prison bitch, and he's like, you know
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Speaker 6: we got married. Well, people who listened that podcast actually
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Speaker 6: wrote into me and they were like.
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Speaker 3: Dave, is that true?
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Speaker 6: Did he really form this in prison? And I said no.
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Speaker 6: I said it would have been funny if he did.
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Speaker 6: But I was like, you know, we should have put
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Speaker 6: a disclaimer before Lloyd's interview, being like, don't don't pay
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Speaker 6: attention to I think.
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Speaker 3: Lloyd says, it's all I know.
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Speaker 4: I know, and he is so funny and so brilliant,
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Speaker 4: such a family man. I'm a great guy and and
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Speaker 4: really helped up on up all night because he supplied
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Speaker 4: this great films and you know, he we had TOXI.
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Speaker 4: What can I say. I'm not going to tell you
55:53
Speaker 4: what a good lover he was. People don't believe that.
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Speaker 3: To RNDA of absolute pleasure talking thank.
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Speaker 4: You and I'm sure we'll do it again anytime, please,
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Speaker 4: thank you.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say when the second book comes out,
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Speaker 6: you have to come back on.
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Speaker 4: You've got It, You've got It, or the next time
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Speaker 4: I'm hosting, or whatever you want another reason, I'll always
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Speaker 4: look back on your show somehow.
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Speaker 3: Please Rna, the door is always open. I thank you
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Speaker 3: so much, Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Dave, and please send me the link and I'll talk
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Speaker 4: to you soon.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank Dave so much for doing such
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Speaker 1: a great job on this episode. If you want to
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Speaker 1: get links to anything we spoke about in this episode,
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Speaker 1: head over to the show notes at Bulletproof Screenwriting dot
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Speaker 1: tv for it slash for forty one.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening. Guys, as always, keep
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Speaker 3: on writing no matter what. I'll talk to you soon.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the Bulletproof Screenwriting podcast at Bulletproofscreenwriting
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Speaker 2: dot tv.