Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Paul Hiltz, President & CEO at NCH Healthcare System
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- 0:33This is the Becker's Healthcare Podcast. I'm Molly Gamble,
- 0:35vice President editorial, and today I'm spending time with Paul Hilts.
- 0:39Paul is the president and c e o of n c h healthcare system based in Naples,
- 0:42Florida. Paul, welcome and thank you so much for being my guest today.
- 0:46Where does the podcast find you?
- 0:48Oh, good afternoon, Molly. Yep.
- 0:50I'm in Naples today for people not familiar with Naples, Florida.
- 0:53It's on the southwest coast and a very beautiful area of Florida.
- 0:59Oh, that's great.
- 0:59I was actually fortunate enough to spend some time in Naples this past winter
- 1:03spring. Uh, a nice respite from the Midwest winter Paul. So, um,
- 1:07it was a beautiful trip and visit. I I really enjoyed the scenery.
- 1:12It is, it is a great community too, and a very,
- 1:15a very generous community and a great, uh, place to, uh,
- 1:18to be working in healthcare.
- 1:20Very much so. Well, let's learn more about that, you know,
- 1:23for listeners who may be less familiar with N C H Healthcare,
- 1:27can you share a couple key facts or insights that would help them better
- 1:31appreciate and understand your perspective today?
- 1:35Absolutely. Uh, n c is a unique thing, we think in America,
- 1:39we're on our way to becoming what we call an advanced community healthcare
- 1:44system. And, uh, what does that mean?
- 1:46It means that we wanna remain an independent, locally governed health system,
- 1:51and we're gonna focus in on quality and advancing quality
- 1:56through key partnerships. Partnerships, uh,
- 1:59like the hospital for special surgery out of New York, uh, Nicholas Children's,
- 2:05uh, encompass rehabilitation, uh, hospitals and, uh,
- 2:10partners that can really help us advance a quality agenda here for the residents
- 2:15of Southwest Florida.
- 2:17And I understand too,
- 2:18a major component of the annual strategic plan at N C H right now is physician
- 2:23integration,
- 2:24ensuring physician voices and perspectives are heard and driving the system
- 2:28forward in into that vision.
- 2:31You just described it being an advanced community healthcare system. Paul,
- 2:35can you talk about what this looks like?
- 2:36What are some specific initiatives that are supporting this big aim?
- 2:41Sure. The, one of the main pillars of our strategic plan right now is physician
- 2:46integration, and it represents the voice of the physicians to drive
- 2:51initiatives that are gonna further the mission, vision,
- 2:54and values of this organization. So I think as leaders in healthcare,
- 2:59we have to really spend a lot of time, uh,
- 3:02creating an environment where physicians and other providers really enjoy
- 3:06practicing medicine, enjoy taking care of patients. So we've spent, uh,
- 3:11a fair amount of time recruiting in great physician leaders, uh,
- 3:15giving them the tools, uh,
- 3:18and equipment to provide great care.
- 3:21And we really wanna make this a place where, uh,
- 3:24practicing medicine is fun.
- 3:28So important. I mean,
- 3:29especially over the past couple of years probably you've seen these trends,
- 3:33not e not even exclusively in healthcare, but just more broadly of quiet,
- 3:36quitting, uh, the great resignation, of course.
- 3:39So to get back to making sure work is enjoyable and bringing people joy
- 3:44and so many people and physicians especially talk about the bedside time with
- 3:49patients, how much that fulfills 'em,
- 3:51and that's really why they went into practicing medicine. So I I,
- 3:54it's really great to see that this is so front and center for your organization
- 3:58right now. Um,
- 3:59ha have you done any work or is there any initiative in play specifically toward
- 4:03physician wellness?
- 4:05There's a lot of emphasis on the physician wellness. We, uh,
- 4:08we survey doctors frequently talk to doctors and really listen to doctors.
- 4:13And one of the things that's been interesting this year is that our physician
- 4:16leaders really determine the need for some type of an innovative
- 4:21physician leadership program to, uh,
- 4:24to enhance their effectiveness and their collaboration and communication and
- 4:28ability to work as teams. So with our medical staff,
- 4:33we co-created a leadership, uh,
- 4:36program for physicians and it's really unique and it's, um,
- 4:41it's used, it uses the, uh, gallup's, uh,
- 4:46strength finders or strength-based, uh, approach. And, uh,
- 4:49the reaction from the doctors has really been, uh, strong.
- 4:54We have almost 50 doctors enrolled in the program, which is, uh,
- 4:58an eight month program, but we're about a third of the way through it.
- 5:03And really the feedback has been, has been wonderful. Mm-hmm.
- 5:06, that's great. I know just last week I saw a story,
- 5:10I believe it was in Harvard Business Review about primary care physicians and
- 5:14the integral role they play in our healthcare system,
- 5:17but how often it can take some extra encouragement because they might be
- 5:21reluctant to take on bigger leadership roles in healthcare. Hmm. Um,
- 5:25so it just goes to show your point about how these formal educational
- 5:28opportunities and structures can really go a long way,
- 5:31cuz sometimes people might feel, feel,
- 5:33whether it's imposter syndrome or they're not sure they're cut out for it,
- 5:36they might question their own abilities when really you see great potential and
- 5:41great need for their leadership.
- 5:44I think you're exactly right. And you mentioned Harvard.
- 5:46We are using the Harvard Managed Mentor, uh,
- 5:50online tools as part of our leadership program,
- 5:54but we are also injecting doctors into a lot of the,
- 5:57the business problems we're trying to solve here with,
- 6:00with some great results actually. And, um,
- 6:03and we went through a conversion to Epic and the doctors have been very much
- 6:07involved in that. We had a great conversion there and, uh, we're taking,
- 6:12trying to take clinical waste out of the system and trying to, again,
- 6:16make this a place that doctors enjoy coming to.
- 6:19Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Well,
- 6:21let's zoom out a little bit too, Paul,
- 6:23because you are in such an interesting part of the country. Uh,
- 6:26I wanted to touch on a couple things that I think are unique to Naples that are
- 6:30listeners might find interesting. One is the housing crisis, you know,
- 6:34other areas of the country can sympathize and understand this challenge,
- 6:39um, especially for areas that are high with tourism. Um, snowboard,
- 6:44snowbirds, excuse me. But the housing crisis in the area of Naples,
- 6:47it's been a really important contributing factor to the workforce,
- 6:51constrictions facing your system, um, resulting in longer wait times,
- 6:56other downstream effects.
- 6:58Can you tell us more about the housing market in your area and the consequences
- 7:03this is having on the health system?
- 7:06Well, the housing issue here is, um,
- 7:09significant and it was actually exacerbated by Hurricane Ian
- 7:14last, um, September too,
- 7:16which destroyed a lot of homes and made things even more acute for us.
- 7:20But we have a number of different initiatives that we're,
- 7:24we're undertaking now to address that. Uh, during this last year with,
- 7:28with the hurricane and so forth, we did, um,
- 7:32lease out a part of a,
- 7:33of a hotel where we created affordable housing for our workforce
- 7:38here near both of our hospitals. Uh, there's been a recent, uh,
- 7:43bill, uh, passed here in Florida by Senator PAs Domo called Live Local.
- 7:48And it's gonna offer developers tax incentives to produce,
- 7:53create affordable workforce housing. So that will also help.
- 7:58And we've got a number of initiatives we're looking at on properties we own to
- 8:02help address this housing crisis for our,
- 8:06our workforce because it's, we think it's gonna be a, a longstanding issue.
- 8:10It has been a longstanding issue.
- 8:12We're gonna have to get creative with partners to other businesses to help
- 8:16address this.
- 8:18Mm-hmm. and the leased out hotel space,
- 8:21was that meant for full-time employees or was it something that you used
- 8:26for contract labor?
- 8:27Can you talk a little bit more about the strategy behind that tech?
- 8:31Yeah, the le originally started as being the, for more of the seasonal,
- 8:35but one of the things that we're finding here in this last year, um, Molly,
- 8:38is that we are gonna have more full-time residents and therefore more full-time
- 8:44employees. So we think that this, uh,
- 8:46notion of subleasing or leasing out, uh,
- 8:50hotels and apartments will be kind of a permanent thing for us as we work
- 8:55to, um, make this a great place to be an employee too.
- 8:59Mm-hmm. mm-hmm. . Well,
- 9:01and some of those full-time residents might be taking up what has become a craze
- 9:05in the US and that is pickleball. I mean,
- 9:08this might seem lighthearted to touch on with you, Paul,
- 9:10but it's been coming up in business reporting, um,
- 9:13including that from some of the big insurers.
- 9:16I I wanted to get your take on this.
- 9:17U UnitedHealthcare last month said an increase in joint replacements contributed
- 9:22to rising costs for the health insurer and in a market rich with retirees
- 9:27and, and pickle ballers.
- 9:29What have you seen in N C H in terms of joint replacement trends and patterns?
- 9:33Is there any link between that activity and then also joint replacement volumes?
- 9:39This is the pickleball capital of the United States here in Naples, and it's a,
- 9:43it's a great sport. We love all the participation. And to answer your question,
- 9:47yes, the orthopedic volume in general,
- 9:50both sports medicine and joint replacements is
- 9:55on the increase here in Naples.
- 9:57One of the reasons that we decided to form a strategic partnership with the
- 10:02hospital for special surgery is that they are the number one orthopedic hospital
- 10:07in the country,
- 10:08and we're gonna create one of the top destinations for orthopedic care
- 10:13in the United States here in conjunction with hss. So to your point,
- 10:18we think that this trend of pickleball, tennis and other activities and,
- 10:23and what comes along with that is, uh,
- 10:24is gonna be here with us for a long time and we're gonna be in a position now
- 10:29to, uh, take care of those patients at a level, um,
- 10:33that will be the best in the United States.
- 10:36Can you talk more about the partnership with H H s, because you're right,
- 10:39I mean, esteemed and orthopedic care,
- 10:42but also I understand Florida is a big destination among New Yorkers.
- 10:47Can you talk about why this makes such a great fit? And then also how,
- 10:51how does it play out? Is are you doing second opinions via h hs, H s s,
- 10:56um, teleconsults?
- 10:58What are some of the finer prints of how this partnership plays out?
- 11:02Yeah. The partnership with HSS is, is gonna be sort of twofold. On the one hand,
- 11:07they are gonna manage our orthopedic service line,
- 11:11what we just recently named Dr. David Helford,
- 11:13who's one of the outstanding orthopedic surgeons in America. He will be, uh,
- 11:18moving to Naples,
- 11:19Florida and leading all things orthopedic in our health system.
- 11:24As a part of that, we're gonna be cons,
- 11:26begin construction in August on a brand new
- 11:30state-of-the-art orthopedic center,
- 11:33which will include inpatient orthopedic rooms as well as an ambulatory
- 11:39surgery center, uh, that will be doing,
- 11:41it will be a joint venture with H S S and N C H.
- 11:45So world-class orthopedic care.
- 11:47We've already recruited several surgeons who trained at H S s,
- 11:52who will be full-time here in Naples,
- 11:54and we continue to build out that team with local doctors who are
- 11:59interested in that kind of care and with, uh, doctors who trained in,
- 12:03in the leading orthopedic centers in America.
- 12:07That's great. Thank you, Paul. And, you know, now we've touched in on,
- 12:10on Naples specifically.
- 12:11I wanted to zoom back out and if we can, I,
- 12:15I'm always curious about this question. You know,
- 12:17so many of the challenges that are facing health systems and its leaders are
- 12:21relatively constant,
- 12:23really important that they play out over long stretches of time.
- 12:26I'm curious to stay fresh and to stay with you.
- 12:29Is there anything new or emerging on your radar that you find is
- 12:33demanding more and more of your attention or time as of late?
- 12:38You know, the thing that I find in, in today,
- 12:41just coming out of covid that I think is gonna be the theme is really gonna be
- 12:45the workforce engagement and developing a pipeline of
- 12:50healthcare workers, new ones,
- 12:52but also re-engaging doctors, nurses,
- 12:56and other clinicians in the work. And I think to do that,
- 13:00we have to get really good at listening to the providers and then trying to
- 13:04eliminate the, uh, the friction points,
- 13:07the things that really just drag doctors down. I,
- 13:10I still think the doctors I'm talking to on a day-to-day basis are still
- 13:15passionate about taking care of patients.
- 13:18I think they're just frustrated with all of the bureaucracy and all of the
- 13:22impediments, uh, put in front of them, uh, that,
- 13:26that take away from patient care. So I'm,
- 13:29I'm really passionate about creating a work environment where
- 13:33healthcare providers really look forward to coming to work and taking
- 13:38care of patients.
- 13:39Mm-hmm. and that perspective is so important because you see,
- 13:43at the national level,
- 13:44the conversation is often focused on the deficit of workers,
- 13:48those who are missing those that we need to get to a healthy baseline for
- 13:53access. But to your point, Paul,
- 13:55if we're not talking about those who are still working and with us and in the
- 13:59system reporting to their,
- 14:00their duties and making sure those experiences are going as swimmingly as
- 14:04possible for them,
- 14:05that's a really important part of the equation that might be under tended to.
- 14:10I believe so,
- 14:11and I think we've gotta start maybe looking outside of our industry a little
- 14:15bit. I just recently took a trip up to Chick-fil-A headquarters in Atlanta
- 14:20to look at how they engage and train their workforce.
- 14:25Um, I also went over and visited some folks at the Atlanta Falcons and, and, uh,
- 14:31Mercedes-Benz Stadium up in Atlanta because they have the number one fan
- 14:35experience in the nfl.
- 14:37So we're trying to look at other industries to see what we can learn to engage
- 14:42our workforce, to satisfy our workforce,
- 14:45and therefore create an experience for the patient that will be second
- 14:50to none. Mm-hmm.
- 14:51, did anything,
- 14:52did any key takeaway or surprise really stand out to you most in those visits?
- 14:59Well, the theme at both of those companies is,
- 15:01is really what we just talked about a minute ago.
- 15:04They're trying to just eliminate the friction points of, uh,
- 15:07whether it's coming to a football game or coming to a fast food
- 15:12restaurant. Um,
- 15:13how do we make the experience as easy as possible for the consumer?
- 15:18And how do we broaden our mission a little bit more and,
- 15:23and think about creating just an experience, not for one thing. You know,
- 15:27we wanna take great care of the patient when they're sick,
- 15:29but we also wanna take care of the entire experience from the appointment
- 15:34scheduling to the final bill. How do we make that something that is,
- 15:39uh, is somewhat enjoyable for the, for the consumer or the patient.
- 15:44Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. , well pause.
- 15:47Is there anything we haven't touched on yet that we'd,
- 15:49we'd be remiss not to make mention of?
- 15:52Well, you know, one thing that,
- 15:54that we're really excited about here is the teaching aspect of what we're doing
- 15:57as an advanced community health system. We now have, if you can believe this,
- 16:01up about 80 residents that we're training in conjunction with the
- 16:06Mayo Clinic here. So very excited for our interns,
- 16:11our fellows, and, uh, the teaching and training is gonna be, I think,
- 16:16a vital part of, of healthcare going forward. And we're in it in a big,
- 16:20big way.
- 16:21And we're gonna combine that with doing some clinical trials and other kinds of
- 16:26research to engage and excite these young, uh, doctors and young clinicians.
- 16:33Well, this has been a delight.
- 16:35I'm so happy we were able to get some time to check in with you at N C H
- 16:38Healthcare System on its way to becoming an advanced community healthcare
- 16:43system, so many different strategic initiatives in play to support that mission.
- 16:47I, I wanna wish you continued success throughout the rest of this year in,
- 16:50in driving that home.
- 16:51And I think we'll stay in touch and continue to keep abreast of the progress
- 16:55that's unfolding at your, your organization.
- 16:59Molly, thanks so much.
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