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harry styles & his many coming outs · gasp! the pod

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I mean, I wish someone could, like, count how many times I've
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said gay in this podcast, but sometimes there's no other word
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for the homosexuality that reeks from this man's music.
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Hey guys, welcome back to GASP the Pod, the podcast for the
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gays, the girls, and especially the gay girls.
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So a couple of weeks ago, Harry Styles did something that awoke
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Larry shippers from their deep slumber, from their hibernation.
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Everyone has woken up, OK? The ice has melted, spring has
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sprung, literally, and Harry Styles is out.
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At least he is out as not straight.
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This podcast is all about proving to you through examples
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why I think Harry Styles is literally out at this point.
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Harry appeared on SNL and much to literally everyone's
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surprise, actually addressed queerbaiting accusations.
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OK, it's been a few years since he's done kind of like any
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interview and during his monologue he countered these
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claims and arguably comes out as queer.
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I would argue he came out as queer and he said, quote, maybe
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you don't know everything about me dad.
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This was interpreted as a clear statement that he is queer
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because the only way you can like, say that you aren't queer
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baiting right is by being like, I'm queer.
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And that's pretty much what he told us to others and the media.
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Apparently this meant nothing about his sexuality and only
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that he was clearing up queer baiting rumors.
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Which again, doesn't make any sense to me because he says the
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reason why he's not queer baiting is not like oh he had
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good intent and whatever whatever he said maybe you don't
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know everything about me. Meaning maybe people didn't
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think that he was queer. AKA he's saying that's something
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that people don't know about him.
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It's just like A + B = C and if we can't do the math then stay
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out of pop culture I guess. Discourse surrounding this
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moment has spread like wildfire with many Harry Styles slash
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Larry shippers pointing out that this was actually just one of
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many, many times that Harry Styles has talked about his
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sexuality. Slash arguably come out of the
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closet with mainstream media not noticing again or like missing
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the point right On this episode, I'm going to dig into all of
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these moments about when he arguably came out through my own
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research through being a One Direction fan myself and
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noticing Larry with with my own eyes as it was literally
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happening. I'm also going to rate the
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strengths of each coming out in my opinion.
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And we're talking One Direction deep dive interviews, right?
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We're talking about Harry's individual music, his lyrics,
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clothing Harry Styles has worn before things he said on stage
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and in music and in symbolism. And we're going to get into it.
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Hopefully by the end of this episode you will learn and agree
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that Harry Styles is is queer. Let's go.
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By the way you guys, if you're not watching on video, I feel
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like I got the best Harry Styles shirt right now.
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Like I found this vintage shirt from the 70s and I just feel
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like it's the perfect Harry Styles.
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Sure, I usually try to like match the aesthetic of like the
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topic that I'm talking about in a podcast.
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And I also first episode with my haircut.
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Get rid of that old shit. Spring has sprung new me.
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Just like, let me know your feelings and thoughts.
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Let's get into now One Direction, old, old days of One
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Direction and these interviews, because I will say, say Harry
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Styles was super, super outspoken about this rumored
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relationship with Louie. Truly more than even some
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Gaylord stuff. And it's beyond that.
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Like the media completely, completely just doesn't validate
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it. And it's like people just have
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treated Larry Shipper so horribly.
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And I'm so sorry. Again, there's a difference
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between like being super toxic and weird and like being super
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gross about things. And then there's another with
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just like, noticing things that like people are actually saying.
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That's most of Larry's OK. I know that Louie has said that
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he's straight. Like, Harry has not ever said,
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oh, I'm straight. Louie apparently has.
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However, that was in 2014. And like before gay marriage was
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legal in America. Like, obviously they're not
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American. But the point is that that was a
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very different time. That could have been a cover up.
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And since then, Louis has talked about feeling uncomfortable,
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especially with like, his kid. I don't know, some of the things
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that he's reading. I can't imagine how being
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comfortable for your kid that you might be bisexual.
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But again, I'm not here to go into all of that.
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My point is that free Larry shippers, OK, that's my main
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point, free Larry shippers. But this episode's not really
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about Larry, however he comes up.
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I don't actually know the date of this interview, but this is
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one of the biggest moments, I think in my case, to show you
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that Harry Styles is out as queer or at least out as not
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straight. And I think that's the largest
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point in my thesis of this whole episode is that he is very
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adamant, Harry is very adamant about not labeling and going
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into too many details about his specific sexuality.
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That does not mean that he is not out as queer as like the
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umbrella of the queer community. And that is nuance that I don't
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think a lot of people, A, in the media or B, in the straight
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community understand where it's like, you can be out as like gay
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in general without labeling yourself and without saying what
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your label is. And I actually really appreciate
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that kind of activism. Let me know at the end of this
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episode if you think he's out as a specific identity or if you
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think he's out as just like not straight or if you don't think
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he's out at all. Let me know your thoughts.
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OK, so this first moment is like a one-on-one very low key.
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It's hard to tell if this is even an interview or if this is
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like a fan talking to Harry Styles.
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Low quality footage here. I don't even see the clip with
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the first question, but I do know that Harry says to this
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interviewer who's a woman. It seems like Harry says, quote,
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my first real crush was. And then he thinks about it,
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pauses and says Louis Tomlinson and looks really nervous when he
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says it. It's not a fucking joke.
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He's not smiling, he's not smirking.
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This looks really early One Direction, so probably
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20/12/2013, right? The fan or the interviewer says
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who? Now?
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This is a time where Harry could have said oh ha ha ha, I I was
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joking, right? No, he double downs and he says
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Louis Tomlinson and slightly smiles.
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Again, it's not like a joke. He's not fucking laughing.
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And you can tell when someone's joking.
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You know, like we have media literacy, at least most of us do
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here in this crowd and fan or the interviewer says, how does
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he feel about you? Again, another option for Harry
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to be like oh he doesn't like me, It's a joke.
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But Nope, Harry says it's mutual.
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We've discussed it. Now at this point the media is
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just being homophobic by not viewing this as literally Harry
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being interested in Louis and them being together.
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Like at this point it's completely completely homophobic
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for the media to assume that when men talk about liking each
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other it's always a fucking joke.
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Because none of this seems like a joke.
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It is the most candid response. I'll show pictures of this in
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the YouTube, but like, it is so clear that this is not fucking
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funny and he looks very vulnerable when he says it.
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And I just don't know how you deny this.
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Then the fan or the interviewer says, yeah, that's beautiful
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Harry, with complete sincerity, which I really appreciate.
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And then Harry smiles, like slightly.
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It's not like he's laughing. If he was not actually
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interested in Louis, why would he?
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There's no explanation. This is one of the biggest
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coming outs I think he's had. I'm going to rate this like a 10
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out of 10. This is a 10 out of 10 coming
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out. You are saying your first crush
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is a man. You have a crush on him, and
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then you discussed it together. That is just direct telling
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someone that you're interested in a man.
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And again, coming out does not have to be telling us your exact
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sexuality. And I think that's what a lot of
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people are hung up on. That's labeling yourself.
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Coming out means you're coming out is not straight under any
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umbrella of queerness. Anyways, on to another old One
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Direction coming out possible moment.
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OK, this one's called Are you and Louie dating?
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A fan is asking Harry, it seems like at a meet and greet.
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Again, this looks like a very old video, so probably around
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20/12/2013. The fan asks Harry are you and
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Louis dating? Harry does not laugh.
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He does not like even smile at this yet he just nods shyly.
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He's like the fan says you are. I figured.
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And then Harry smiles again, No laugh.
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He's just smiling, and he looks shy about it.
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I don't know how people deny this stuff.
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It's as a galer when we're already so used to picking up on
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like things that maybe the mainstream audience would not
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understand. These are things that the
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mainstream audience should understand because it's like,
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there's nothing to misconstrue here.
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He just said they're dating again, not a joke.
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So I'm going to rate this coming out strength a 10 out of 10
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because you just said you're dating a boy and it doesn't seem
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like you're joking. And I would argue, and I know a
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lot of people think that like real people can't queer bait.
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I do think real people can queer bait.
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I know, I know hot take. But again, this podcast is all
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about hot takes. Like I'm sure you guys have
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disagreed on many things I've said on this podcast because
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that's just what life's about. Like I don't want people to
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always agree with me. It's just discourse.
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It's just my opinion. And like it's not big things
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that we're disagreeing about like homophobia, right?
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ANYWAYS, I do think real people can queer bait when they are
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tied to like public work and art.
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So like that does have to do with famous people because their
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individuality is also their brand and their marketing.
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And that's not really the same for like people that are not in
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the public space, right? So like Harry Styles as a
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person, Taylor Swift as a person, like Beyoncé as a
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person, they are brands within themselves.
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And so, like, when you are like, attaching something to you, you
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have to realize, like, what that gives off to the public, like in
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a way that individual people do not have to worry about.
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And so I do think there's an added expectation for people in
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the public eye to not queer bait and not, like, do things out of
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attention and money that, like, real people would not be making
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money off of pretending to be gay.
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Do you see what I'm saying? In fact, we would probably lose
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money for pretending to be gay, but famous people would, right?
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So and like maybe they would also lose money, but they would
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also maybe try to gain gay money.
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That's maybe a whole other conversation.
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The point is that I think if Harry is straight, which I do
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not think he is, I think if Harry is straight and he said he
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was dating Louie even though he was joking the entire time, I
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think that is fucked up and queer baiting.
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And his SNL monologue, why this isn't coming out is because he
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says the reason why he's not queer baiting is because we
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don't know everything about him, meaning he can't queer bait if
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he's actually queer T So anyways, I'm going to get that
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at 10, at 10, that's so much confirmation.
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It's crazy. Moving on to another One
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Direction interview. This is an interview with all of
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the boys. It's a little bit later in their
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career. It might be like 2014, I can't
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really tell, but it's called the four play game, which is so
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weird. But and also like it's weird
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asking like young guys like sexual questions like this is
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weird objectively for an interviewer to ask.
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They answered them. So the interviewer asks 4 traits
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you look for in a lady Liam RIB says female.
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That's a good trait. Harry smiles and says not that
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important again, like there's nothing for me to even add to
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this because that's these are so gay.
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It's like not even funny. I'm going to have to say that's
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like a nine out of 10. And again, when I'm rating these
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coming outs, it's not that I think that any of them are not
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confirmation that he's gay, but it's more so like how outward
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could you be, right? I do believe that all of these
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are coming outs because coming outs don't look the same.
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Coming outs are not all announcements.
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Coming outs are just like aligning yourself with the queer
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community to communicate something about yourself.
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That's what I believe in coming out is.
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I do believe most these are coming outs or at least like gay
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hints, like Easter eggs. Then the last One Direction
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interview is don't knock it till you try it.
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And guys I also just want to add like I was a fucking huge One
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Direction fan but I was obsessed with Niall and maybe because we
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were both blonde now I won't even say that like looking back
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that even like makes sense for me.
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But I like truly was like no no one else gets it.
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Like I will marry him like he is made for me lol.
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Anyways in this interview, this is like a group interview.
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Louis says we'll get back to you on who Niall is sleeping with
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And again they're talking about sex and sexuality.
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Liam says I think we need to go outside the box.
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The interviewer says a man. Liam looks at Louis mind you and
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says a man let's go a man because all the guys are like
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really supportive of them. You can like really tell.
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And then Niall says don't go a man, I had bad taste because
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what the fuck Nile. And then Harry says hey don't
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knock it till you try it. Have you tried it Harry?
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I mean these were gayer moments during One Direction than
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actually like the next like 5 years.
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It's kind of crazy. I'm going to say that's that's
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like an 8.5 out of 10 guys. OK, Now we're going to get into
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a section of like interviews where he did a lot of interviews
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when he went solo, kind of like in between 2017 all the way up
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until like 2022. OK.
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These are interviews that like are mostly surrounding his like
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what he was wearing. I literally had to stop filming
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you guys and recorded TikTok because I just found out that
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Travis Kelce was going back with the Chiefs girl.
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What we know how that's going to work out with Taylor and him.
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Like we know what the blogs are getting ready to say.
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Oh, he can't balance at all. Wedding planning's called off.
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OK, I'm back. So we're about to get into the
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interviews of Harry talking about his sexuality.
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Usually the interviews start bringing up his sexuality
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because this is the era when he goes solo.
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Music video is literally men and women half naked dancing around
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him. Like it's very clear that he's
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communicating that he sleeps with both men and women.
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I know that people like don't view that as a coming out.
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But like that is though, like straight people don't actually
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do that. Like straight men don't usually
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do that in their music videos. You know, this is around the
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time 2017 where he's like going out on his own and he's wearing
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more like feminine, quote, UN quote outfits and like kind of
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like dressing in a more fluid way.
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And people are like saying that he's queer baiting, right?
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So this interview from 2017 from Bizarre, when he's asked if he
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labels himself, Harry says, no, I've never felt the need to
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really. No, I don't feel like it's
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something I've ever felt like I have to explain about myself.
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Now many people are going to view that, straight people are
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going to view that and maybe even hate people as like, if
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anything, the opposite of a coming out.
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But if anything I feel like straight people are so quick to
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be like I'm straight. And him being so intentional
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about not wanting to label himself is not the same thing as
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saying he's not queer. Label is saying that you are
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asexuality. Like some people use queer and
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gay as their actual label, but like, being not straight and
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being part of the queer community and being like a
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little guy and being gay, right, is a whole overarching
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community. And that's not necessarily a
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label. And so I feel like if anything,
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he's saying he doesn't feel the need to label himself and he
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doesn't need to explain it. And that means to me like, oh,
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I'm not straight. And so I'm going to label this
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low 2 out of 10, but I still feel like there's a queerness in
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a part of this. And I will say, like, I really
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like Harry. I like a lot of his music.
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I wasn't really passionate about the fact that his ticket sales
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are so expensive this year and it felt like he wasn't really
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super. I feel like his first
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performance back seemed like he was like lackluster and having
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like a lackluster energy. And I also do have mixed
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emotions when it comes to how he talks about sexuality.
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I think there's something to be said for like, yeah, it's
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awesome to talk about how, like, people don't need to label
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themselves. And I do think that there's like
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a space for that. And like, I think that that is
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really productive. And at the same time, I think
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sometimes when he talks about it, like, and I'll get into it
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later when he says like, oh, no one cares.
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It's like actually, it would be really helpful if some of these
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big artists weren't so passionate about being
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unlabeled, but did actually say something in a more clear way
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where people would understand that they're gay.
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You know what I mean? Even if they didn't read through
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the lines. So like, yes, it's true that all
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of these things are like fair. And I think all of these things
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shows that he is gay and he's very passionate about being like
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not specifically labeling himself, but also attaching
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himself to the queer community. And I think that is so awesome.
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However, it would also be very helpful if some of these big
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artists that were assumed to be straight it a very clear coming
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out. And again, I don't think we
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should have to do that and gay people shouldn't have to do
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that. But I also think that that would
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be so powerful as well. So it's like it doesn't take
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away from the legitimacy of that, but at the same time, it's
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like would be kind of awesome. So I guess like the SNL
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monologue made me feel so much better about the things he said
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in the past. Because now I feel like maybe
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he's trying to be a little bit more clear that like, I'm clear,
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I'm part of the community. You just don't know my exact
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identity. So anyways, in 2019, he did an
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interview with the Face. Harry says quote.
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I'm not always super outspoken. But I think it's very clear from
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choices that I make that I feel a certain way about a lot of
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things. He's like, if you actually like
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listen to my music and if you actually like watch anything,
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you can tell that I'm part of the queer community, but I'm not
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going to say it in the exact words you want.
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And like, I think that communicates everything that we
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are all picking up on, right? Like, I think that's like a very
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helpful comment. I think that's a 7.5 at its end.
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Moving on. 20/19 The Guardian interview.
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This is a very interesting interview that I have thoughts
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about. OK, the interviewer says quote.
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There's a popular perception that you don't define as
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straight and this interviewer like fucking straight up asks
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him. It's kind of crazy.
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The lyrics to your songs, the clothes you choose to wear, even
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the sleeve of your new record. All of these things get picked
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apart for clues that you are bisexual.
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Has anyone ever asked you though?
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This is so interesting too because like I wish Taylor had
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an interview like this where it was like really clear and no one
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tell me the Vogue interview because she is not fucking clear
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in that. Mary says I guess I have been
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asked but I don't know why it's like sounds like 7th grade when
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someone like do you like me? It's like, I don't know why the
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interviewer says, you mean why ask the question?
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Mary says, yeah, I think I do mean that.
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It's not like I'm sitting on an answer and protecting it and
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holding it back. It's not a case of I'm not
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telling you because I don't want to tell you.
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It's not, oh, this is mine and it's not yours, which I think is
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a really interesting thing to say.
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However, like he does contradict himself later.
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And I think it's a good reminder when we talk about like
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celebrities and like media that like people evolve and they grow
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and they change their mind and they change their perspective on
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things and we can let them do that.
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Like it seems like maybe he was like kind of very obvious with
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it during One Direction. And then maybe like wanted to be
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a part of the career community, but not have to talk about his
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actual label. And then maybe he got a little
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bit more open with it as time went on.
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Like so when people say hold celebrities to things that they
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said like 10 years ago or something, like people are like,
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oh, Taylor Swift said. And then whatever prologue, it's
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like, what if she changed her mind?
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What if she was closeted? Then like people can change,
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right? The interviewer says, what is
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it? Then Harry says it's who cares.
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Does that make sense? It's just who cares.
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And I don't really love that from Harry.
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Again, I feel like this is giving gay because you're like,
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oh, I'm queer, but I'm just not going to tell you my exact
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identity. People are not going to pick up
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on that. But the whole point here is
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that, like, he is not telling us he's straight.
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So we need to assume just from this section and we can assume
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he's queer from all these other things he said.
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But from just this section, it's very clear that he's like, not
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straight, right? And like, he hasn't told us his
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identity, but it's probably not straight.
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Like got real. I think this is like a one out
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of 10 because just like, the shadiness of him answering the
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question makes it seem like he's queer.
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I don't really like that he says who cares?
23:29
Because I'm like gay people. It's not about like straight
23:33
people like getting into your business.
23:34
It's like gay people. But again, he changes his tune
23:38
kind of all over the place. And isn't that the life of a
23:40
bisexual? Which I do believe he is.
23:42
But again, I can't like bet my money on it.
23:45
And I'm not going to like prove that he's specifically bisexual,
23:48
but I will try to prove that he is queer.
23:50
Umbrella. So 2022, Better Homes, I think
23:53
it's so fucking iconic and hilarious that he did an
23:55
interview with Better Homes magazine.
23:57
Like that's the gayest thing I've ever heard Harry says about
24:00
his sexuality. Quote, I've been really open
24:03
with it with my friends, but that's my personal experience.
24:07
It's mine. Now.
24:09
This is directly contradicting what he said in 2019 where he
24:13
said, quote, it's not like I'm sitting on an answer, protecting
24:17
it and holding it back like, oh, it's mine and not yours.
24:20
And then in 2022, he says, that's my personal experience,
24:23
it's mine. Like Harry, Harry, he may have
24:28
not known how to answer the 2019 question.
24:30
Maybe he wasn't ready. Maybe he was just trying to show
24:33
that he doesn't really care about it.
24:34
And then in 2022, he's trying to say that like, he is open about
24:39
it in his personal life, but not everyone gets access to his
24:43
personal life. Then he says, quote, the whole
24:46
point of where we should be heading, which is toward
24:49
accepting everybody and being more open is that it doesn't
24:52
matter. And it's about not having to
24:53
label everything, not having to clarify what boxes you're
24:56
checking. And I think his intention is to
24:59
say, you don't know my exact sexuality label and we shouldn't
25:03
have to label ourselves. And I love that idea.
25:07
I think the only thing that I'm messing with this comment is
25:11
that like, we're not yet at the point where like, it doesn't
25:15
matter yet, and we might need some more very influential
25:18
people to be outwardly clear about being part of the queer
25:23
community so we can get there. I don't think he has to, but I
25:27
think it would be helpful. And again, I think he's pretty
25:31
much done that with the SNL yet. People are so fucking dense.
25:35
Like after SNL, everyone was like, oh, Harry Styles cleared
25:39
up queer baiting rumors. And not like, oh, Harry Styles
25:43
may have just come out. It's like we can't make that
25:45
natural jump because people are so worried about talking about
25:48
gay things now in the last five years.
25:50
And so I do think like in 2022, this was an optimistic idea of
25:54
like, oh, we don't need to label ourselves.
25:56
And like, he's obviously such a queer advocate that like, I do
26:00
think he's doing a lot of the work, but it seems like now
26:04
we're in like a different world where like, I do think it'd be
26:06
really helpful if people were a little bit more obvious with
26:10
being queer. And again, it doesn't mean he
26:12
has to. I think it would help.
26:14
And it doesn't need to be like your exact label.
26:17
I wish I could talk to him and like, have a conversation with
26:19
him because I do think it's really interesting this
26:21
conversation of like labels and like everyone's so focused on
26:25
labels. But I wonder if he's talking
26:28
about like even identifying with being like queer in general or
26:32
like just talking about a specific label.
26:35
Do you know what I mean? Because like, again, I don't
26:37
think a lot of people realize that that's a good.
26:39
Those are two different things. So then in 2022 and Rolling
26:42
Stone, Harry says, quote, I think everyone, including
26:46
myself, has your own journey with figuring out sexuality and
26:49
getting more comfortable with it.
26:51
Again, like this is a gay thing to say.
26:53
Oh by the way, I'm going to rate the 2022 Better Homes like 5
26:57
because you're saying you are protecting your sexuality and
27:01
you're very open with it to people.
27:03
Like I'm like that's gay bitch. I don't remember if I rated the
27:06
20191 whatever 2022 Rolling Stone.
27:10
Back to that quote, sometimes people say you've only publicly
27:14
been with women and I don't think I've publicly been with
27:17
anyone. If someone takes a picture with
27:20
someone it doesn't mean you're choosing to have a public
27:22
relationship or something. That is the most reputation
27:25
prologue coded shit I've ever heard and really reminds me of a
27:29
lot of celebrities and how they talk about their sexuality that
27:32
we think may be queer. Sabrina, Olivia Rodrigo Taylor.
27:36
I don't know. I said Sabrina's first name,
27:38
Sabrina Carpenter. Like there's more.
27:41
Obviously those are like the big name ones.
27:43
But like it is very true that like when the media sees two
27:46
people together, even if they're kissing doesn't mean they're
27:49
dating. OK, They could be hooking up, or
27:53
they could be not together at all.
27:55
And so we classically put men and women together and we're
27:58
like, oh, look, they're a couple.
28:00
And I think it's really important that Harry says, you
28:03
have no idea who I've dated. Like we don't actually know and
28:06
I love that and that's fucking ambiguous as shit and gay as
28:09
fuck 7 out of 10. All right, let's talk about his
28:12
wardrobe Easter eggs. This is very Taylor Swift ask.
28:15
And again, I do think Taylor and Harry are like friends.
28:18
So even if Zoe is actively actually dating Harry Styles,
28:22
which there's some good arguments that like Harry is
28:25
actually gay, not bisexual and is closeted and like wants to be
28:30
able to be open at a certain extent about a sexuality, but
28:33
still is like bearding and like because maybe he's not ready to
28:37
be like fully out as like gay. I think there's arguments for
28:42
that. You know what I mean?
28:43
Like wouldn't be the first time that fucking happened.
28:46
But if Zoe and Harry were actually dating each other,
28:49
which I think like maybe they are like, I don't even really
28:52
know at this point. All I know is that he's just gay
28:54
in some way, but I don't think Taylor gives a fuck because I
28:58
don't think Taylor and Harry actually dated.
29:01
And I also think that Taylor and Harry aren't like close friends,
29:07
but I think that they're like, I think they had tea with each
29:10
other just because they were like both big icons at the same
29:14
time. I don't know.
29:15
But I do think now they're in like a good place and they're
29:18
more like colleagues that share notes when it comes to sexuality
29:22
and music. And I think they both have like
29:24
a big mutual respect for each other.
29:26
And I think that they like learn from each other.
29:28
And so how they both talk about this stuff is so similar.
29:32
And again, this goes to the new romantics theory.
29:34
But like, this is just so Taylor Swift coded first one.
29:37
But Daddy, I love him. Sure, Harry wore with this
29:39
Taylor writes a song, but Daddy I love him.
29:42
But daddy I love him is from The Little Mermaid.
29:45
Harry wears it. It makes it gay because he's
29:47
saying but daddy, I love him. It seems like he likes a man,
29:50
right? Taylor writes a song, but Daddy
29:52
I love him in a straight way back to The Little Mermaid way.
29:56
But it's gay because she's like talking about fucking religious
29:59
trauma and how she can't be allowed to be with this person.
30:03
Like but Daddy, I love him is so gay and I can't even talk about
30:05
that. And it's like Harry wearing that
30:08
pretty fucking gay 7 out of 10. Then we have him wearing a
30:12
quote. I can't even think straight
30:14
shirt. If he is straight, I'm going to
30:18
say that's queer baiting. Like a straight man shouldn't be
30:20
wearing that because it seems like you're saying that you're
30:22
gay treatment shouldn't be doing a lot of things.
30:24
So I'm going to say this pretty gay.
30:26
And if you're at the point where people are accusing you of queer
30:28
baiting, that's probably they're coming out and you didn't
30:30
realize that they're gay. Do you know what I mean?
30:33
It's probably them hinting that they're gay.
30:35
So always side with they're not queer baiting.
30:37
They're just gay. I will always assume someone's
30:39
gay. 8 out of time. Then we have Harry wearing a
30:42
shirt that says quote, I'd love to fellate George Harrison.
30:47
Look up what that means. If you don't already know, 10
30:50
out of 10 This man is having gay sex.
30:53
Like you can't. You can't say he's not you can't
30:56
say he's not after this. Like what?
30:58
What the fuck? He also just like, and this is
31:00
going to the on tour section. I have or he's done so much gay
31:03
shit that like again, I couldn't fit a lot of this in one.
31:07
Obviously this is like the hairy version of Gaylord, but like
31:10
he's done so much gay shit and it's just, it couldn't be more
31:14
obvious truly amount that he incorporates gay culture into
31:19
his music. St. people don't do that.
31:22
And this is also what I say with Taylor Swift as well.
31:24
It's like street artists don't care that much about the gay
31:28
community where it's a part of everything they do.
31:31
And like, maybe they do, but if they are that into the gay
31:34
community, then they're also probably gay.
31:37
Do you know what I mean? He's waving around a pride flag
31:39
and there's a coming out section of like every single part of his
31:41
tours. Like it doesn't you have to be
31:44
gay at this point. So in 2017 on tour, Harry says,
31:49
quote, we're all a little gay, aren't we?
31:51
Harry spotted a sign that said, I'm gay and I love you.
31:54
And in response, Harry says, quote, we're all a little bit
31:57
gay, aren't we? He said, we that's a coming out
32:00
again, coming out. This is a coming out.
32:03
Like they can be casual, they can be fun, they can be cheeky,
32:06
they don't have to be serious and trauma dumping in order for
32:09
straight people to receive that. That's gay.
32:12
I'm going to say that's a nine out of 10.
32:14
Then during Love on tour, which of course there's so many gay
32:17
moments of this tour where he's like reading signs, talking
32:20
about it, helping people come out, So many gay moments.
32:23
But this one that's so notable is the sparkly by music moment.
32:27
He's helping someone come out as bi to their friend and he is
32:31
like, oh, band, like let's play some sparkly by music.
32:35
He then looks you can see him thinking about this smirking,
32:39
being like, Yep, I'm going to say it.
32:41
And he goes is not all of this sparkly by music about his own
32:46
goddamn music. Harry Styles says that I think
32:49
he's gay. If like Joe Jonas said that, I
32:53
would be like Joe now, why are you queer baiting?
32:56
I mean, maybe he's by two, but like, you can just tell when
32:59
someone's being authentic about it, right?
33:01
He incorporates so much queer stuff because he's fucking
33:03
queer. Sometimes the simplest answer is
33:05
the right one. He thinks his own music is
33:07
sparkly by music. And then he sings the little
33:11
song that he sings when he like, helps people come out.
33:13
He says, we're coming out tonight, we're coming out
33:15
tonight. We're coming out is by like 10
33:19
out of 10, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay.
33:22
Finally, let's get into Harry's lyrics and music.
33:27
And these are like the classic Taylor Swift Easter eggs that
33:30
you find. And I'm sure there's more.
33:32
Like, I haven't listened to all of his songs.
33:34
Sumi. This is an introductory course.
33:37
Of course. If you guys know anyone that's
33:40
like an expert in like Larry Stylinson or Harry Styles and
33:43
his sexuality, like, let me know.
33:45
I want them on this pod. And that goes for like any
33:47
guest, by the way. But some of these fucking songs
33:53
are, I mean, I wish someone could like count how many times
33:56
I've said gay in this podcast. But sometimes there's no other
33:58
word for the homosexuality that reeks from this man's music.
34:04
You can hear it and you can smell it from miles away.
34:07
So medicine, of course, this is the standard classic gay song.
34:13
He never actually released this. And again, this is another
34:17
situation that just like is so similar to Taylor Swift's where
34:21
she, like, changes up a song with like, she her pronouns.
34:23
And then people always think she's saying like you, like she
34:27
or like, I don't know how people will like rewrite it be like, Oh
34:31
no, I didn't hear she, like I didn't hear that I heard you.
34:34
I heard they or whatever the fuck or I heard we like.
34:37
But it's a similar thing where if you look up medicine lyrics,
34:41
it's not going to say him, it's going to say them.
34:43
And my argument and then I'll read the lyrics is that it
34:46
doesn't actually matter because it's still gay.
34:48
So lyrics are tingle running through my bones.
34:51
The boys and the girls are in OK, bisexual.
34:54
I mess around with them even if even if it doesn't say him where
35:00
some people think it says, and I do think so and how he says it
35:04
and sings on stage, I mess around with him even if it's not
35:07
that he says. I mess around with them after
35:10
the line of the boys and the girls are in, I mess around with
35:13
them, all of them. You guys are being dense.
35:17
If you don't see that as being gay, like how can people not Do
35:21
people just want to hear a lyric of him saying I'm gay because
35:25
that's boring and not art. Artists are going to art.
35:28
Then he says, and I'm OK with it.
35:30
I'm coming down. I figured out I kind of like it
35:32
when I'm all out. I think about the way you write
35:34
it. If I could go for a man or a
35:36
woman or anyone in between. So that's like that's a 10 on
35:40
the 10. That's one of the gays lyrics.
35:43
It's giving lips of scarlet. They were maroon, right?
35:46
It's giving argumentative antithetical dream girl.
35:49
And we have the golden unreleased lyrics.
35:51
These are lyrics that he would sing on stage and sometimes they
35:53
change and they're not in the official lyrics quote.
35:56
He is broken and I'm hoping someday he'll open gay.
36:01
I'm hoping that someday I could be open.
36:03
I know that you're scared because I'm so open.
36:05
Like this is about his sexuality.
36:07
I I'm like what? 10 out of 10 gay pop lyrics from
36:13
his latest album Quote Katie's waiting to be your game day
36:17
savior. So he's talking about a woman
36:20
wanting to be your so either a woman with another woman because
36:25
this is probably about sex, so that's gay, or a woman with
36:29
another man and he's talking to the man gay.
36:32
First time tasting it. It's nice to mix 2 flavors.
36:38
He's talking about a threesome with a man and a woman together.
36:41
Together. It's just me on my knees, pop.
36:47
So I'm going to end with that. I'm going to say like that's a
36:50
nine out of 10 because I'm sure straight people like don't see
36:53
two flavors meaning 2 genders, but I do.
36:56
And just a reminder, like I think all of these are pretty
37:00
goddamn gay, but it's just in the ability for people to
37:04
recognize how gay something is. If you're not convinced that
37:08
he's at least a part of the queer community and is like
37:11
resistant to specifically label his exact sexuality, I can't
37:15
help you. I'm sure you guys are all
37:18
convinced at this point. If you're watching this already,
37:22
let me know what you think is like the strongest evidence.
37:24
I'm so glad that he did this SNL monologue because I do feel like
37:29
it cleared up. Not just that he was not queer
37:31
baiting, but he was not queer baiting because he is queer.
37:35
Something that I'm glad he said, especially in the climate we're
37:38
in where it's like, yeah, be a little bit more clear that
37:42
you're not queer baiting and you're like one of us, which
37:46
we've been known, right? I will add, there's this
37:50
interview from 2013, AGQ interview where he's asked if
37:53
he's bisexual and Harry says bisexual.
37:56
Me, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I'm not.
37:58
And people usually use that as being like, oh, guys, he said
38:01
he's not bisexual. First of all, point A, he could
38:04
be gay. And major point B, this is in
38:08
2013. Maybe he was put on the spot and
38:12
uncomfortable and didn't know how to answer a direct question
38:15
about his sexuality when he's very young.
38:18
I think like maybe not even 18 yet.
38:22
Very very young. Maybe in his first love with
38:25
Louis maybe. And a lot has changed since then
38:30
so let's not use old interviews. It's like evidence to why a
38:34
grown man talking about multiple genders and that that can't be
38:39
gay. So just because someone said
38:41
something in the past doesn't mean they can't grow and change.
38:43
And also, I do believe that like, a lot of people are
38:46
closeted, put on the spot, maybe like he was wanting to be
38:50
closeted at a time and now maybe he's not.
38:52
So like, let's just remember that media literacy.
38:56
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