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Dads Are Protesting, AMEX Is Flexing & Oil Prices Are on the Move · The Curve

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Do you iron your clothes when they need to be ironed?
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Bring an iron clothes.
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Can you look at this shirt and think, yeah, you should have ironed that.
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Do you notice that about people?
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I did try not.
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I did try not.
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I got the iron out and I couldn't figure out how to work on it.
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And then, I remember being like with a friend, I was like,
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how did she always look so...
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Did she vote?
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No, like, so put together.
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And it's like, she takes five minutes to iron her clothes in the morning.
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Yeah.
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I don't know. And now, I think I've got fun the other way.
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I can't even learn it, which is supposed to be like, just wrote on.
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I've just got this issue at the moment where all my clothes,
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I've kind of got out of storage since getting back here.
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But I've got a really hectic floor drove right now because I don't have enough storage to put
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on. Thank you.
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No, no, honestly, I actually, my room is always pretty tidy.
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Like, I don't...
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It goes through phases where sometimes it'll be, if I've got really in a hurry,
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there'll be additional floor.
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But I'm either at especially because I've just moved into new place.
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I'm quite like almost OCD about wanting my space to be really nice.
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But because I've got way too much shit to fit in any of the cupboards,
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there's just this big section of folded bits of stuff.
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And so much of it is shirts or dresses that need to be ironed.
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Yeah.
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And I do like a big ironing haul.
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Like, I'll just set an iron just iron.
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That's a good idea.
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And then it's all ready for the week in the morning.
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So I don't have time for that.
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Yeah, I love it.
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It's really annoying because I just feel like I'm wearing the same shirt
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where I'm planning my outfits based on not having to iron.
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I remember when I was little on a Sunday,
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my dad would set up the ironing board in the lounge and put on,
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I don't know, probably antics roadshow or something.
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And he would just iron all the shirts for the week.
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And I just, it's just like this memory that I have.
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You were taught for me, young age.
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I just remember it being so cozy.
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You know, on a Sunday?
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On a Sunday.
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Did you say it on a Sunday?
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Sunday.
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Did I say it on a Sunday?
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On a Sunday.
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Did I say what you're boyfriend?
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On a Sunday.
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On a Sunday.
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Yeah.
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And would all kind of be like, especially in winter,
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it'd be a cozy and then it'd just be like, anyway.
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Good old, ironing chat.
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Sorry, we've got two.
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Well, would you have anything more interesting to talk about?
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Did you go to the thing last night?
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Yes, I do.
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Oh, you're nice.
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How was it?
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Okay, so I went to an event last night.
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It was Afterwork Drinks, which is an Australian podcast
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with Grace O'Neil and Izzy Truman.
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And it was at this cinema.
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Yeah, nice.
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And they had merch and I was like, God, that's cool.
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And they're hats and stuff, all awesome.
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I saw they're hats and it was really cool.
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I was like, damn, I went to get one before the show
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and then I forgot they had sold out.
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But it was just cool going to a live podcast show.
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I want to do a live podcast show.
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Do you think we would have enough people in London?
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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Imagine if you had two people by tickets.
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I just have anxiety of no incoming.
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Can we do it?
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There's every party though.
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I'm like, yes, I'm wondering.
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Also, the thing about what they did is they had a cinema right
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and it had downstairs and upstairs.
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So the upstairs, they just, they sold out,
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but they just had the bottom sold out.
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It's quite good.
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So it just meant that, you know, you're not in a party
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that feels empty.
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Yeah, there's nothing worse.
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I remember my 30th.
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I wanted this massive space.
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Come to my 30th.
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What have you do to it?
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And I hired this place.
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Where were you in the world?
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In Auckland and I hired this bar
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and I remember my sister being like,
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it's quite big.
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Like, you can eat a lot of people
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and there's nothing worse than a party that's spacious.
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Yeah, no, no.
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Anyway, it was very spacious.
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Was it?
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There was lots of people,
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but it was very spacious.
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Everyone was outside and then the bar
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and like, you know, there's like lots of,
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and I was like, everyone, you know, like, on the dance floor.
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No, I'm sorry.
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Yeah, no, I feel like you do want
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in any situation.
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You want the space to contain the people
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in a way that feels full.
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Even we were saying yesterday,
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we've just moved officers.
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So now our officers right next to our podcast studio.
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And we were in this really big, beautiful office,
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but we're just, we're using the space problem.
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Hello there.
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And I was saying it feels like you've hired
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a beautiful space for a party,
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but no one's showed up because you're not filling it out properly.
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Whereas now we're in a smaller one.
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It feels like it fits us perfectly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there's just nothing worse
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than having all these gaping.
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It feels uncomfortable.
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The fine balance, right?
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Because you don't want to space this too small
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on any brand's thing.
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Sorry, wait, can we just go back
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to the Afterwork drinks live show?
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So basically one of the things that they did
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is they pulled out all these old photos
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from photo shoots of them.
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Yeah, so like through the ages, you know,
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they're like growing up and I was like,
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oh my god, imagine if we went through
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like the outtakes of our photo shoots,
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the shit that would be in there,
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I've got some goodies from you, do you?
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There's one I'm pretty sure the photographer took a photo
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as you're like pulling your pants up.
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Do you remember it? It's like, you're like,
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oh, it's sorry.
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It's the one that you accidentally had on your phone screen.
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Your tattoo nearly out.
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It's like, it's, yeah, it's, it's a gem.
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Oh, great.
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Now these were more like them in their hotel room
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doing the sultry sexy shoes.
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And at the time being like,
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shit, yeah, we look hot.
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I mean, looking back and hindsight,
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and you're like, oh my god.
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Gosh, yeah.
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I think we've been lucky and the photographers
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we've had have been very good.
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It's the talent bag.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's just the talent bag.
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So great.
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It's funny. I keep using photos.
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You know, when people are like,
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how can you send us some head shots?
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And I'm like, yeah, sure.
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And I send a photo shoot for my three years ago
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and we look like fresh faced and no grays.
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Yeah, but I think we need to,
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this is what it made me think.
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We need to a photo shoot.
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We need to update it.
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That's fine.
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And we just kept fishing everyone.
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So it's so funny you say that
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because we're about to do this
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really big exciting partnership.
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And they were like,
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this cook,
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so can you send some photos
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like for the announcement?
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And I was like,
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I mean, I can.
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But like, we look,
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we're definitely false advertising
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with the images that I'm going to see new.
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Because it's fine, baby.
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The face looks completely different.
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I know all the collagen that's gone.
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I'm so, oh, it'd be quite nice to have that back.
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Just, you know,
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my hair's not the same color.
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We just look, we actually look like
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what you would hope after three years.
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Four years.
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That one was four years ago.
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I guess it was awesome.
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The one I'm thinking about me,
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where we're like staring at the,
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where we did it in your friend's house.
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You know, we spread out.
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Oh, that was three years ago.
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Was it?
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Yes.
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2022.
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Three years.
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I know.
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And I just finished dating.
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We'll just started dating.
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I know.
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I'm like, oh,
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holy shit, that feels like
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I know, I know.
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I'm so glad that it's about you.
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I'm like, oh, that's been, I'm like, oh, yeah.
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I do the same.
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And that's so, I hate that I do that.
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I look through my phone and I remember times.
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And what comes to my mind was really upset
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because I just broke up with such and such.
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Because, oh, I took this photo
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because I was trying to make this person jealous.
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You know, I thought I looked really good
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and I posted it because I was trying to first trap.
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Oh, my God.
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Gosh, yeah.
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Now, this, of course, unfortunately,
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is not just about random shit chat
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from the ironing to the weather.
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So, but side note, I love you out.
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You know, that's not watching this.
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I'm really into vintage now.
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I know it took me a while, but I am.
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What's changed?
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I think I just in Japan,
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there was just such cool vintage stuff.
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I think every time I've been to shop,
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it's been absolute.
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Is it because your budgets change
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and you now can't afford to just go on the run?
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No, because I'm buying a nice vintage stuff.
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No, it's like, it's one off.
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I don't know. I think it's just exciting.
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I think it's just probably a bit of that.
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But also, I just think it's exciting.
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It's like discovering stuff,
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but it's also time consuming.
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But the rush you get from finding something
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that you love, that you know,
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no one else is going to have,
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or it's kind of rare,
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and it reminds you of a time
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of finding a, of making effort.
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Like, it's such a fun feeling.
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Yeah, it is.
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Do you remember that black and gold jacket
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that I used to have in Sydney?
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And it had big gold arms,
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and it was kind of cool too.
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And on the back, it had a beaded sunflower,
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which I know it was never cool,
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but at the time for me, I thought it was so cool.
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And we were with one of our friends
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in New Town in Sydney,
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and I remember finding it.
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It was $20 Australian dollars.
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And the feeling I got from it
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was better than getting a brand new jacket
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from some cool brand.
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Like, I just felt, it was such a fun thing to find.
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And I wore it to death.
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Yeah, it's fun when you get something
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that you love.
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I bought this brown leather jacket in Rome as well.
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And we're heading into summer,
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and I was like terrible purchase, but it's great.
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You're a little London.
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I love it.
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I think you're starting to like rough up a bit.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like you're starting to like,
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you know, get a little bit down and dirty
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with different, you know,
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because I think for a while,
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you exclusively bought kind of
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cool officewear.
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Looks, you know, like you didn't really go straight.
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I feel like you can't, like I was saying this conversation
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before in this morning.
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I was like, I have to wear sneakers everywhere
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because I'm walking over there.
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So therefore, I'm not going to wear officewear with sneakers.
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So I'm, therefore, I wear jeans.
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And therefore, you know, I like it's all kind of,
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whereas when I go back home and I drive everywhere,
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I can dress up a bit and I can wear non-snickers in, yeah.
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I actually couldn't agree anymore
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because this morning I walked in
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and I have the worst blister on one foot
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because I wore loafers for the first time in weeks
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because I had some sick of wearing sneakers.
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And I was like, hobbling.
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I was like, oh, this is just such a surprise.
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She walked from your house.
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Yeah, with these.
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And it's my actual heel.
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Look at this.
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The actual thing has broken.
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So my soul has collapsed.
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Anyway, pointers, A-Grey, you have to,
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you've got to adjust the style.
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I think it suits you.
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Thank you.
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Anyway, sorry for our shite yarns.
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Oh, wow.
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On to.
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That's quite fun just talking about kindness.
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Honestly, wish we could do an offshoot
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that was just fun, random shit about our lives.
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Maybe 50, 50's great.
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Maybe 50% of the podcasts we talk for.
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Another eight minutes, shit chat.
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And then, you know,
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dangled a carrot of finance news at the end.
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What I like about this podcast,
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and it's good for my attention span,
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is we kind of weave this into the finance chat.
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Like, I like that we, you know,
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have a random catch up at the start.
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And then we do talk about news,
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but we'll do tangents because it keeps me.
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It's so hard to, like, flow it in though
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when we go from talking about your shoes
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to UK parental leave.
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Oh, don't worry.
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I got you.
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OK, now shoes and dads.
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First up on the agenda.
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We are talking about UK parental leave.
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Yeah, got that sounds.
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OK, no, OK, let me try again.
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OK, the first thing we're talking about today is
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the world's first ever dad strike.
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Oh, yeah, dad's striking against
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terrible parental leave.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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OK, love it.
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What's happening?
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So when you say striking,
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so we've had so many protests lately, right?
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Don't get me wrong.
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I'm all for people showing their freedom of speech
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and protesting things that they want to protest against.
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But this one definitely sparked my interest.
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And I was like, I've never seen this before.
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And then when I read the headlines, the world's first,
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I was like, that is why.
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So it's all around dads in the UK asking for more time
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with their kids, with their born.
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So they get two weeks and they're like, I want more cuddles.
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I want to help my partner.
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I like, like, I think, I know we've been like,
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we have it so tough.
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We need more support.
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But it's, I kind of, and I might get ridiculed for this,
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but I feel like poor dads as well.
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Imagine having to see your partner.
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Both of you have been thrust into this completely new world.
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And you're having to leave your partner with a two-week old,
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and leave your baby who's two weeks old.
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And like, really miss out on that bonding time.
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I think it's just so.
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I couldn't agree with you.
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I can't believe I've never really thought about it enough
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from the other angle.
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And I think it's really important that it should be equal.
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I know that biologically,
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women go through more in terms of, you know,
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giving birth and all of that.
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So there's a bit longer recovery time.
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But I think as parents, that time is so special
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and so formative for the rest of the life of the child
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that I just think there needs to be way more support
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for mothers and fathers.
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And I think this all stems back the idea of the man being the provider,
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the woman being the home maker,
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main caregiver, et cetera.
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Like, that's all shifting, right?
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So we're in a world where the woman who's earning more money
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or the husband, this obviously heteronormous dynamics
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might be staying at home with the kid.
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But we haven't shifted the times in terms of, you know,
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and also, I love what you said about,
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I mean, two weeks with your baby is nothing,
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like 14 days, not even that, with a newborn baby.
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I can't even imagine.
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Neither can I.
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And I think it's really unfair to expect.
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It's unfair on the partner that's at home with the baby,
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who's like, sole responsibility is.
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It's unfair on the dad or the other, you know,
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parent who has to go back to work,
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because they have to earn enough money to support.
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It's tough.
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And whether you've got two weeks or 26 weeks,
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or whatever, it's like the amount of comments
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that I was reading from fathers and from dads
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that were like, I had no choice I had to go back to work.
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And then it's all, it all comes down to financial reasons, right?
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Like, you could take a year off if you wanted,
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but it's usually money that draws people back into work
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sooner than they need to or they want to.
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And so there just needs to be more support from government
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and I just can't understand.
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So I found this really interesting.
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There was this conversation about,
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and I can't remember where I heard it,
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but it was the idea that parents,
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regardless of gender,
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raising the next generation for the workforce
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to go in and work for businesses
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and make businesses money.
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And yet, parents aren't paid for doing that.
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And essentially, in terms of like a capitalist system,
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it's a huge amount of that workforce
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that's like teaching, training, growing,
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helping bring up this next generation
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that are not being paid.
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And the idea that that does need to come back on businesses
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if we're truly paying for the whole way
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that they run and the people that are coming through
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to make their business profitable,
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there needs to be money put aside to pay for that.
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And that's not just women at home.
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That's also the need to be able to take time off
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to raise their kids.
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And also, it's going to take generations.
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The slower that we give equal parental leave
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to both parents,
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the more children are going to see their father out at work
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and their mother at home.
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And I know I'm talking about when they're very young,
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but like if we don't have that financial support,
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I'm assuming here a traditional role
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of a mother staying at home
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and a father going to work.
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But yeah, the longer that you see that dynamic way out,
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the more you think it's normal in society and therefore, yeah.
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So we need to break them old,
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but the UK has some of the worst parental leave.
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And that's why the UK does,
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in particular, are striking.
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So what do they do?
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When you say striking,
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are they striking from work?
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Are they doing protests?
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What does it look like?
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They're striking for longer, longer leave,
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longer paid leave.
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But what are they striking?
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So isn't they not going into work?
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No, they're protesting.
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Yeah.
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So they're not, okay, because it's kind of a strike
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kind of when you're...
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When you don't go into it.
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Yeah.
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So it's more, it's more their protest,
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when you say they're protesting against,
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are they on the streets of science and stuff?
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Yeah.
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Can we go join them?
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I'm kind of...
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I think that's awesome.
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Yeah.
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I think it's so cool and it's,
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I mean, it's sad that they have to, right?
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But it is what it is.
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I feel this really, you know,
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when there's so much shit going on in the world
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and there's so,
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there's so many injustices.
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Yeah.
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How do I say that?
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Injustices.
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Thank you.
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And things that are just like heart breaking
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when you hear them.
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It gives me hope and pride
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when people stand up for
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and try to actively change things
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if you're not right.
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And hearing the story,
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even though it's really awful that they have to,
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I feel proud and...
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I agree.
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And I think...
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And I don't really know how to explain it.
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And I think for me it was like,
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of course, we both have to support each other,
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no matter what gender or, you know,
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ethnicity or cultural religion.
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It's like, you don't have to be part of the group
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that is effective.
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You know, you can protest on things that,
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because you just want to support your friends,
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your family, your community,
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or, you know, like this is,
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I don't know, we're just so,
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sometimes women have it tough,
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you know, like help us, help us,
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which we do on a lot of things.
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But it's also like,
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you know what, if we actually help
16:40
dads get more parental leave,
16:42
that's going to help us as a byproduct.
16:44
You know, it's like this whole,
16:45
everything's so connected, right?
16:46
But I also love the idea of,
16:48
if we send up in and strike or protest on their behalf,
16:52
and they see the solidarity of us wanting to help them,
16:55
that's all going to swing around about,
16:57
so when we're like,
16:58
hey, can you help us with this?
17:01
It's this collective we want to see better for everyone.
17:04
It's not just where our echo chamber
17:06
is trying to change this one small thing.
17:07
I'm just also absolutely baffled
17:10
that there is people in parliament and in government
17:13
that look at this and think that that is okay.
17:16
Do you know what I mean?
17:17
If I got into power,
17:19
it'd be one of the first things
17:21
in my first policies that I would,
17:24
I would change.
17:25
I think you should go into politics.
17:27
I think maybe...
17:30
I think actually you are doing yourself a huge disservice here.
17:34
I was thinking about this when I was at the live podcast show last night,
17:37
and the way that that is in Grace talk is so chill.
17:41
There's always things just like they're at the pub talking to each other.
17:44
They're not like,
17:44
hi, welcome to our live show, everyone, you know.
17:47
And I thought, I love how they present.
17:49
It's so true to their podcast,
17:51
but I actually thought,
17:52
I love how you present,
17:53
because when you speak about the research and the news
17:57
and the things you're talking about,
17:58
you do speak with such an authoritative strong voice,
18:02
which I actually really love.
18:04
And I think that you in politics,
18:07
I think you would be surprised.
18:08
I think you would show up and actually be able to command attention.
18:12
Maybe, you know, like sometime in the future.
18:14
Yeah.
18:15
Or maybe it's the curve,
18:16
as in I think there's an element where...
18:17
You just could be so passionate about it, right?
18:19
Which I am,
18:20
because there's no monetary gain from really being in politics.
18:24
It's all about your passion and about, you know,
18:26
like it's not like you grow a business with a purpose and a passion,
18:30
and there is financial reward at the end or along the way.
18:33
It's very, very different,
18:35
but not saying that I, that changes it.
18:36
It's just, yeah.
18:38
But this is something that you're really passionate about,
18:40
and you always have been.
18:41
And I think, you know, maybe you don't have to go on being in peace for it,
18:44
but it could be talking to or asking how we can help,
18:48
you know, is it that we need to arrange our own protest?
18:50
Text me more.
18:51
I don't care.
18:52
Yeah.
18:53
You know,
18:53
increase my text by one or two percent.
18:55
It's probably being like, no!
18:57
But like, I'm not going to notice one or two percent.
19:00
This, I'm going to notice.
19:01
This is my children are going to notice.
19:03
You know, and just feel like, anyway, one thing that I kind of wanted to leave
19:08
this topic on was like, we do have a podcast on with Meg and Guy,
19:13
and it's raising the curve 114, 114, 114, 114, 114.
19:17
Oh, it's the same thing.
19:19
We'll link it in the podcast.
19:20
Yeah, and it's all about saying goodbye to Daddy Day here, and
19:23
yeah, it's all around.
19:24
She is the breed winner.
19:25
Quote unquote.
19:26
And I love that conversation, which is really fun.
19:28
I just love how proud he was.
19:29
Yeah.
19:30
Which I mean, I don't know why that shocked me.
19:32
It's also highlighting really epic men in this space who are proud to be
19:36
parents, who want to be more involved.
19:38
Which is champion change.
19:40
If you just take your two weeks and go and then go back to work and
19:43
don't actually do anything about it or talk to your employer or, you know, take a stand,
19:48
you're doing everyone behind you a disservice.
19:52
Just quickly, what are the difference between UK, Australia and New Zealand
19:56
in terms of parental effort?
19:57
How bad is it in the UK?
19:58
So the UK get two weeks and you get about 90% of your earnings during that two
20:03
weeks.
20:04
So you're 90% of your pay.
20:06
In New Zealand, you get two weeks unpaid.
20:09
So they're not paid off God's sake.
20:12
You may as well take a four week holiday, quote unquote holiday.
20:16
But you can, you get 26 weeks.
20:18
You can split that between mother and father in New Zealand.
20:22
So there is the option if say the father is the primary
20:28
and then the mother has to go to work.
20:29
And that's from the government, right?
20:31
Yeah, that's the government.
20:32
So employers do have, every employer has different initiative.
20:36
They might add on top of that.
20:37
They might not.
20:38
So is the two weeks in the UK government or is that government?
20:41
Yeah, yeah.
20:42
So some businesses might have more.
20:44
It's just the fact that they might top it up.
20:45
Yeah.
20:46
But that's the thing, right?
20:47
I'm sure businesses would love to give 26 weeks or a year.
20:52
But financially, that would almost break us.
20:55
Yeah.
20:55
Do you know?
20:56
Yeah, don't even think that.
20:58
So as I said, just reading the fine print of my contract,
21:02
we're like, what is the pre-to-leaf policy?
21:05
The pre-to-leaf policy is that there is not one.
21:08
Yeah, I don't even think I have a contract.
21:10
So yeah, good luck, Rick.
21:11
And in Australia, if you want to have a baby day,
21:14
we will find a way.
21:15
We will find it.
21:16
But I know you may.
21:17
We will turn the studio into a day here.
21:20
It's fine.
21:21
Yeah.
21:21
The acute little crash.
21:22
Imagine trying to record.
21:24
We can't even record with me, so in the office,
21:25
let alone, yeah.
21:27
And then in Australia, yeah.
21:29
They get up to 20 weeks,
21:31
and that can be shared between both parents.
21:32
So a lot of governments are doing both.
21:35
So the UK is terrible.
21:36
Most get two weeks.
21:38
For dads, specifically, it's two weeks.
21:40
I'm just like, who the hell came up with two weeks?
21:42
Oh, it must be ancient.
21:43
It would be hundreds of years ago.
21:44
Yeah.
21:45
We're...
21:46
I don't want to say it.
21:47
Dad's probably wanted to go back to work.
21:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:50
No, no, it's true.
21:51
Yeah.
21:51
I mean, like...
21:52
Back in the day, the woman would go on to labour,
21:54
and the man would go to the pub,
21:56
and the beard we think is the cheering of fuck off.
21:59
Yeah, of beard.
22:00
They'd get a call being like,
22:01
you've had a boy, you've had a girl.
22:03
They wouldn't even be in the...
22:04
Yeah.
22:05
No.
22:06
I know.
22:07
Oh, my God.
22:08
Oh, my God.
22:09
It kind of makes me thankful for how far we've come.
22:12
What are we going to look back at?
22:14
Today, then, think that was normal.
22:16
It kind of scares me.
22:18
Wow.
22:19
Oh, my God.
22:20
It's probably like, what?
22:21
You used to sit in the room and talk in a microphone,
22:23
and people were listened.
22:24
Oh, my God, that's so weird.
22:26
I mean, I think they'll probably be thinking things
22:28
are along the lines of the fact that
22:29
they're even with gender in a quality.
22:31
Yeah, yeah.
22:32
You know, the pain.
22:33
I know, I just hope that my daughter's,
22:35
or son's, just...
22:36
Gender equality in a quality is nothing.
22:38
But that's why things like listening to this podcast,
22:40
or, you know, that is a form of activism.
22:43
To learn...
22:44
To share it to people.
22:44
No, it's true.
22:45
I think it comes down to...
22:47
We have to set it.
22:49
And if you look back, even in feminism history,
22:53
and the amount of struggle and, like,
22:56
what had to be done to get us into a position that we're in now,
23:00
we have a responsibility to do that
23:02
for our kids and for the generations.
23:03
100%.
23:04
And doing things like educating yourself
23:06
is the first step in that direction.
23:08
And I think...
23:08
I mean, there's so many ways that we can do it.
23:10
But we need to not just get lazy.
23:13
Be like, it's fine.
23:14
It's like, no, no, there's still a lot of work to be done.
23:17
Anyway, before we get to...
23:18
Good chia seed stuck in my plate.
23:21
Not a fun feeling.
23:23
And then they grow.
23:25
The chia seed just, like, gets all your saliva
23:27
and starts getting bigger and bigger.
23:28
Do you ever push the sock?
23:29
Yeah.
23:30
It kind of worries me what it does inside my stomach.
23:33
It's like those little dinosaur toys
23:34
that you put in more in the next pan
23:36
by certain times the same.
23:37
Someone told me that, you know,
23:38
those crispy noodles, packets of crispy noodles,
23:40
I used to eat them at school.
23:41
And someone told me, you know,
23:42
that they expand in your stomach.
23:43
And I was like...
23:45
Does it bring you out?
23:46
Yeah.
23:47
Because you've eaten to the point where you're so full
23:49
that they expand.
23:49
But then they expand.
23:50
Yeah, in the next pan,
23:51
that I'm just going to become one big noodle.
23:53
Yeah.
23:54
Do you need some time to get the chia seed out of your mouth?
23:56
It's fine.
23:57
Are you sure?
23:57
Yeah.
23:58
If you want to go have a look in your mouth.
23:59
It's like, when you've got a little bit of popcorn
24:00
so you can eat it.
24:01
It's like, yeah.
24:02
I just, not even worth eating the popcorn to be honest.
24:04
Middle East.
24:05
Okay, so this is freaking me out a lot.
24:08
I thought it might be.
24:10
Oh, we didn't even begin.
24:11
I know.
24:11
One of our advisors actually shared
24:13
something to their story on socials.
24:15
And it was always historians looking back at politics
24:19
and dictatorships and basically what's happening
24:23
and the idea that you can look to the past
24:27
for indications of where we're going
24:29
and what we're seeing.
24:30
And it scared the bejesus out of me.
24:34
What's the quote?
24:35
It's like,
24:37
history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.
24:40
It doesn't rhyme, but it repeats or something.
24:42
I bet you just made it up.
24:43
Nice.
24:43
Have a quick look.
24:44
So have you seen that film Lee with Kate Winslow's?
24:48
And it's about World War Two and she's a photographer.
24:52
There's all these really iconic photographs of her
24:55
in Hitler's bathroom.
24:56
She gets naked in the bath.
24:58
And this is just as the war's finished.
25:00
Germany's retreated.
25:01
And there's this scene where all of these American soldiers
25:04
are in Hitler's history doesn't repeat itself,
25:08
but it often rhymes.
25:10
And that means it looks very similar.
25:12
So in this film,
25:15
one of the, there's this interview at the start
25:17
where the sun is kind of interviewing old Kate Winslow
25:21
as a mum.
25:23
And without giving too much away, he basically asks,
25:26
how did you not know what was going on at the time?
25:28
How did you not make decisions sooner?
25:31
And it was kind of what she was saying.
25:33
It sort of just happened.
25:34
It happened so slowly and gradually.
25:36
And then all of a sudden the realization
25:38
of what was going on anyway, it just freaks me out
25:41
because I feel like that's what's kind of happening right now.
25:44
Yeah.
25:44
There's these things that are happening
25:45
that we're like, this is awful, this is awful,
25:47
but it's like, yeah, it's like, it's not just awful.
25:50
It's, it's, yeah, it's really freaking me out.
25:54
Have you seen the big shot?
25:55
No.
25:56
You know when a movie ends and then it kind of
25:58
words pop up.
25:59
It's kind of tell you what had happened to the characters
26:01
or like if it's based on true story.
26:02
The end.
26:03
It kind of says like this person was convicted.
26:05
This person will need to jail for a while.
26:07
The next slide was like, but the banks
26:10
or whatever have started to lend us again.
26:12
And it alludes to like, and we're still doing it.
26:15
You know, we've started to do it again
26:17
even though this was years ago.
26:18
And it's kind of the same feeling like that, right?
26:21
Things do repeat themselves and start to creep up
26:26
without you realizing.
26:27
And yeah, anyway, Middle East, it is home
26:32
to one of the world's largest oil producers,
26:35
which is Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq,
26:38
and the United Arab Emirates.
26:39
So like when there's turmoil in the Middle East
26:42
or disruption or anything, it's mainly because of oil
26:47
is why the chaos and the fighting and the wars
26:50
all start with the protectionism because it's such a
26:53
high oil producing region.
26:55
But when wars break out or tensions arise,
27:00
this leads to supply chain disruptions.
27:03
So it means that, you know, 20% of the world's global
27:08
oil trade goes through the Middle East.
27:10
And when you can't move products,
27:13
like we saw with COVID, right?
27:15
Lockdowns, you know, like shipping channels were all
27:18
bunged up and things just were way more expensive
27:21
because they take longer and they have to go
27:22
to alternate routes and all of that.
27:24
So this means that oil prices have increased.
27:27
We've started to see that happen.
27:29
And this, we've actually started to see stock prices
27:32
like Chevron, Exxon, mobile, all of those companies,
27:35
their share prices have gone up
27:36
because they can now charge more for oil, oils and petrol.
27:40
It's in airlines, bad news for airlines,
27:42
because now they have to pay more for the raw material
27:46
that goes into their products.
27:47
Yeah. So even logistics, right?
27:50
If you've got a whole lot of trucks on the rows,
27:52
you're now having to pay more for petrol.
27:54
That increases and it just gets passed through to the consumer,
27:56
which leads to inflation.
27:59
Inflation.
27:59
Yeah.
28:00
So...
28:01
Can we do that again?
28:02
So it sounds like I knew what I was talking about.
28:03
Sorry.
28:04
Which leads to inflation.
28:07
Yes, well done.
28:09
So this is what everyone's kind of worried about.
28:12
And this week, the stock market was off a little bit.
28:14
Like it wasn't too bad,
28:15
but people are definitely watching this
28:18
with a fine tooth comb.
28:19
And also, if things escalate in the US,
28:21
gets really involved.
28:23
Is this World War Three?
28:24
Does that mean there's going to be
28:28
real slowdown and global growth that's going to impact you?
28:30
If it gets broader than just the Middle East,
28:33
that's when people are getting concerned.
28:35
Can you explain what happened last week,
28:38
in terms of the bombing and what it was about?
28:42
Like, is this anything to do with oil and money,
28:45
or is this quite remote from what you're talking about?
28:48
I mean, I'm not a...
28:51
Middle East expert.
28:52
If we have one in our community,
28:54
I would love to see...
28:55
I think for the financial angle, though,
28:57
is inflation.
28:58
And then if it gets into a full scale,
28:59
World War Three, and the US gets involved
29:02
in the US starts getting targeted,
29:06
that's going to have huge impacts.
29:08
But I think that the key takeaway from here is that,
29:12
I mean, we spoke about this when the tariffs were being
29:14
all the tariff discussions, right?
29:16
We need to be investing outside of the US right now.
29:19
We need to be investing in Europe, UK, Asia,
29:22
all of those regions,
29:24
because the US has had a phenomenal run over the last 10 years.
29:28
The US stock market, you know, Amazon, Nvidia,
29:31
all those companies have had such great returns.
29:34
I'm not saying, I don't know what they'll do,
29:37
you know, over the next few years,
29:39
but just kind of hedging my bets.
29:41
I'm putting money outside in other regions,
29:44
just to, yeah, put yourself really.
29:47
But watching this very closely,
29:50
watching that oil price,
29:51
watching, you know, the retaliations
29:54
and who's targeting who,
29:57
I hope it, I hope it gets,
30:01
it doesn't escalate, but, yeah,
30:05
all the news headlines.
30:08
It's interesting, I was on the treadmill,
30:10
and it was like breaking news,
30:12
Israel targets Iran and bombs Iran.
30:16
And I think I flipped to the next channel,
30:18
because I was like, I want some more financial,
30:20
you know, like I wanted some like financial updates.
30:22
And then it was like breaking news on there and there and there.
30:24
And then I was like, oh, I was like, this is a big deal.
30:27
You know, like I, I know there's been turmoil in the Middle East,
30:30
but I'm not, I'm not an expert on historically who's, you know,
30:33
but when it's, when something's on a recent girl channel,
30:36
you know, that's okay.
30:38
What are the, what are the implications of this?
30:41
I want to do some more digging and what's happened.
30:42
But yeah, and so Israel bombed Iran.
30:45
Obviously the US is backing Israel,
30:47
and it has for many, many years.
30:50
So Iran's now heading back at Israel,
30:53
but does that mean that Iran then hits back at the US,
30:57
the Iran military forces so much more bigger than what,
31:00
than Israel, the country itself is way bigger.
31:03
You know, Iran.
31:04
Yeah.
31:04
So I guess they are in a position of power,
31:07
but then if the US is behind Israel, it's all connected.
31:10
But the US doesn't, you know, is an alliance with Israel
31:12
because of oil.
31:14
It's just right.
31:15
Yeah.
31:16
Even going back to September, we're leaving, right?
31:18
Iraq and Osama,
31:20
it's just goes back and back and back.
31:22
The US and the Middle East decide.
31:23
I think it would be fascinating.
31:24
I know that this is like a slight adjacent to the financials,
31:29
but it is also interconnected.
31:31
People fight and, you know,
31:35
worlds are started over power and money.
31:38
Oh, definitely.
31:39
Yeah.
31:39
It's so interrelated.
31:41
I think that if we...
31:42
It's so power.
31:43
It's so money.
31:44
It's like, exactly.
31:45
It's oil is such an incredible asset.
31:47
And if you've got control over that,
31:50
like the world still cannot survive without oil.
31:53
And US, yes, they can get some of their own,
31:55
but they're still very reliant on the Middle East.
31:57
So they've got to be very careful of who they back
31:59
and who they side with.
32:00
And I don't know.
32:02
I was sitting here and I was like, looking at all these men,
32:04
you know, come to their podiums,
32:05
all the prime ministers and presidents
32:06
and talking about, you know, we're going to retaliate.
32:10
We're going to bomb this.
32:10
We're going to bomb that.
32:12
What's this?
32:13
And I don't, you know, this might cause some controversy,
32:18
but would this happen if you had three women in power?
32:24
Absolutely not.
32:24
And the US, Israel and Iran,
32:27
I just cannot fathom that three women
32:30
would be sitting there being like,
32:31
we're going to bomb you, we're going to bomb you.
32:32
I just, yeah, and maybe they would,
32:34
but I just, I cannot ever see that it would be,
32:38
let's sit down, let's talk about it.
32:39
And I just, yeah, that's what I'm going to say.
32:44
I think it would be really, really interesting.
32:46
If anyone knows any amazing,
32:48
whether it be historians or researchers or academics
32:52
who are really scaled up in this conversation
32:55
between Middle East and the history
32:57
and what's happened there,
32:59
with relation to power and money,
33:01
I think it would be a fascinating conversation
33:03
for us to all get up to date with that
33:05
because there's, there's, you're right,
33:07
there's been absolutely years and years of this conflict.
33:11
And I think that having someone that's almost neutral,
33:15
that's not, that is like, help us break it down.
33:17
Just help us break it down,
33:18
because I think everyone needs to understand this.
33:20
And it's sometimes hard to know what news outlets
33:22
to listen to and also to come in,
33:26
what feels like quite late to the conversation,
33:28
but really, really understanding what's going on,
33:30
I think that would be fascinating.
33:31
And I think it's been going on for so many years, right?
33:33
This kind of tension in the Middle East.
33:35
And some people might think that I was pretty naive,
33:38
you know, not realizing the enormity of Israel,
33:41
you know, bombing Iran.
33:43
But I would love to note, at what point
33:46
is the escalation serious?
33:49
Do you know what I'm, is it now?
33:51
Is it, if the US retaliates or is it,
33:54
if Russia gets involved or China,
33:57
you know, like what I have no idea, so yeah,
34:00
that would be great though, yeah.
34:02
American Express.
34:04
I don't know why I said it like an American.
34:07
So yeah, what's been happening with then?
34:09
So American Express.
34:11
You're quite a fan of this company, aren't you?
34:13
Yeah, we've spoken about it a bit
34:15
in the investing club we've done some breakdowns on it.
34:17
Yeah, it's been around forever.
34:18
It's about 175 years old.
34:20
That's not really that old.
34:22
For a company to be around, like, yeah, really?
34:24
You think that companies get bought out,
34:26
they get closed down?
34:27
But I really want to talk about American Express
34:30
because they have recently introduced a price increase
34:33
for their cards.
34:34
It used to be $700 in annual fee
34:37
to have an American Express, which is quite a lot of money,
34:40
just to have a card to spend money on.
34:43
That's now going up to nearly $1,000 a year.
34:46
God, are you keithing yours?
34:47
Yep.
34:49
Anyway, I just want to kind of explain why I like American
34:53
Express so much.
34:54
So this announcement came up that they're increasing
34:57
the price of their cards and I was like, oh my God, what?
35:00
But they also announced it with a side comment saying,
35:03
this is the largest investment ever.
35:05
They're going to have a big refresh.
35:06
They're going to have a lot of new incentives and rewards.
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And that's why people own these cards, right?
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It's like a status symbol.
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They've done so well.
35:13
Pretty much everyone has a visa master card.
35:15
If you think that's the run of the mill,
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that's like shopping at your everyday supermarket, right?
35:19
And then people that shop at the really nice supermarkets,
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maybe it's bad analogy.
35:24
But the American Express is done really well
35:26
at targeting Gen Zs, which I know you like.
35:31
Oh my God.
35:32
Yeah.
35:33
And you might think credit cards bad for Gen Zs
35:34
and I totally get that.
35:36
But they're targeting experiences, right?
35:38
They're targeting, and this is something,
35:40
this is a thing I've been noticing play out
35:44
with the increased use of AI.
35:47
People are craving experiences.
35:48
Experiences, you can't do it with AI.
35:51
We've seen luxury brands get really into experiences.
35:55
They're having little ice cream trucks and stuff, you know,
35:59
but Prada ice cream truck, for example, you know,
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like there's like the getting really into,
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like if you think they're like Jack and Moses
36:04
like done this beach club in France.
36:07
Like how do you say it?
36:08
Yeah.
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Oh my God.
36:10
I've always been like, jacquama.
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Oh, you know what I'm saying?
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Isn't jack and Moses.
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Oh God.
36:15
How embarrassing.
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But anyway, there's all these brands
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are getting into experiences because it's like, yes.
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When did you find that out?
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I feel like.
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Almost as to Tommy.
36:25
I was the same as you.
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Oh, cool.
36:27
What else are, um, Lowe?
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Lowe?
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Lowe?
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How do you actually say that one?
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Lowe.
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Lowe.
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Lowe?
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Lowe.
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I know.
36:37
And then what's the other one?
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Oh, Kate?
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Do you have that one?
36:41
I was like, wait, what's Kate?
36:43
It's K-H-A-I-T.
36:46
Oh, I don't even know what that brand is.
36:48
I said, I like the kids.
36:49
No.
36:50
It's so funny when you don't know this has something
36:51
and you just kind of, um,
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anyway.
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And you merge it into your other words.
36:54
Over the last five years,
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MX has doubled the return of the stock market.
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So it has done.
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If you'd invested in a fixed price,
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you would have done double then what the market return was.
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And this is why Warren Buffett invests in it.
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He thinks it's fantastic before, so do I.
37:09
Anyway, the story probably isn't as exciting as it is.
37:11
He had bought, yeah.
37:12
I know.
37:13
I'm trying to give people an investment idea.
37:16
Yeah, well, you know, just join the club.
37:18
Or if you're wanting to learn about investing
37:20
and you haven't join our bootcamp,
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it's starting in like a week.
37:23
But yeah, love American Express.
37:25
Quick fire, next three, London is saying a massive exodus.
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So, oh my God, I saw this and I kind of was like,
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why?
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Well, it's happening.
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Change the tax laws.
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So if you're a non-dom, so that means you don't live
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in the country, but you have assets in the country.
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So that means, yeah, then you have to pay tax.
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Anyway, so there's been this massive exodus
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of wealthy people from London that have sold properties,
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got rid of assets and, you know,
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are moving assets elsewhere,
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where they pay little fewer tax or lower tax.
37:54
So there's a number of mentions in London that,
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I for sale, which means prices are falling
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in terms of five, three and a half.
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We rub our pennies together?
38:02
I don't know.
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I'm like, your loss is not my game.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what I'm saying.
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I was like, still 5 million pounds, absolutely not.
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And then now, there's talk of them reversing that.
38:14
So sorry, what was the law?
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I'm so lost.
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So if you are not domiciled in the country,
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so you're a non-dom.
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So we are non-doms.
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Yes.
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So actually, we don't have assets.
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We'd be taxed here.
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Yeah, we weren't, when we came over for that like six months,
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we're probably be non-doms.
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It's a non-dom.
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Yeah, because we have assets.
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Yeah, if you bought an asset in London and you weren't,
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you were like kind of maybe working in the Middle East
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or in China or Australia or America or whatever,
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you'd still get taxed on that.
38:41
So it's just saying, we're going to now tax all of your assets.
38:46
Pretty much you can't, you have to start paying tax now.
38:48
You can't be here.
38:48
You can't have assets here and not be taxed.
38:51
Okay.
38:51
Yeah.
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So they're going to, they might change it
38:54
because all these people with money are leaving.
38:56
Everyone's leaving and this is massacres at us.
38:57
And that is actually investment in the country, right?
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I understand why they haven't introduced that.
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Yeah.
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What do you think on it?
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I think it's absolutely stupid, that's because I'm, yeah.
39:08
But it doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
39:10
It doesn't like the idea of if you sell that.
39:12
I just think, I feel like tax is one of those things.
39:14
It's really right for disruption.
39:16
So many people are going to have houses in different countries,
39:19
work in different countries, need one kind of global,
39:23
or a platform even that you just put in a cake call.
39:26
I've done two days here.
39:27
I've done 165.
39:29
I've got assets here.
39:30
Where do I pay and who do I pay?
39:32
Because right now it's you might pay UK tax
39:34
and you've got to get a tax back.
39:35
Like it was an absolute shit show.
39:37
I had to put my house in a trust in New Zealand.
39:40
Probably shouldn't be putting this on a podcast, but I had to avoid,
39:44
because I'm like, otherwise I'll be taxed on my house
39:45
in New Zealand and being an adult sometimes is quite hard.
39:48
Yeah, and being living all around the world.
39:50
Nintendo, this is another thing I wanted to bring up
39:52
is gaming.
39:53
Oh, it's huge.
39:54
It's absolutely huge and it's mind blowing
39:56
because I'm not like exposed to it.
39:58
I'm not a gamer.
39:59
I feel like I'm pretty late to the party,
40:01
but I think with this,
40:03
anyone listening that is a gamer or knows a gamer
40:06
would have been able to spot this from far away, you know?
40:08
And I think it's a really important reminder
40:10
is to open your eyes.
40:11
But wait, what's actually happening with Nintendo?
40:12
So Nintendo has released a new console
40:15
and it's absolutely shot the lights out.
40:17
So they released one in 2017, 2021, and now 2025.
40:21
This one had a massive increase in price.
40:23
It's Nintendo.
40:24
It was just like PlayStation.
40:25
Yeah.
40:25
Yeah, it's called the Nintendo Switch 2.
40:28
And yeah, launch has just been absolutely incredible.
40:30
The share price is up 60% this year.
40:32
It's absolutely gangbusters.
40:35
Would you date a guy that plays Nintendo or PlayStation?
40:41
Not all the time.
40:42
I would find it quite gross and sloppy.
40:44
Like just like sitting with that popcorn and...
40:47
But if they did it like...
40:49
I don't know.
40:50
When I sit on TikTok, then yeah, I don't know.
40:53
Yeah, I guess it's like, I'm going to be at it
40:54
and they're like, cool.
40:55
I'm going to play Nintendo to one in the morning.
40:57
I just think it's quite...
40:58
Yeah, if they were doing that, it's quite addictive personality.
41:00
I'd be like, why can't you switch off?
41:02
I'd be like, oh, I've just got to jump over this frog.
41:04
I don't know.
41:05
Yeah.
41:05
It would depend.
41:07
Yeah.
41:08
It's almost like, it's fine if you like to party as long as you
41:10
it shits all around.
41:10
It's fine to do this as long as you blah, blah, blah.
41:12
It's fine to indulge in it fries as long as you don't do it.
41:14
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:15
Yeah, I know you mean.
41:16
It's fine to watch gossip go every night.
41:18
You go to sleep.
41:18
Just as long as you...
41:20
Yeah.
41:21
I need to hear her that habit.
41:22
I'm like, quite...
41:23
Gossip girl.
41:24
I just find it fascinating that you're watching gossip girl.
41:25
I think it's because it's my version of switching off,
41:28
just like people using Nintendo to totally zone out.
41:33
I find watching new TV shows or new movies
41:35
really stimulating.
41:37
And sometimes I just want my brain to not be thinking.
41:39
And I don't know one of them.
41:40
One of them.
41:42
Yes, but that's thinking.
41:43
Maybe what I need to do is get into fiction
41:45
opposed to non-fiction and escape in a way
41:48
that's like a story opposed to it, isn't it?
41:50
But I...
41:52
I had it watching the documentary about Ocean Gate,
41:55
the submarine that went down with the billionaires on board.
41:59
Oh my god, I haven't heard of that.
42:00
Oh, it's so fascinating.
42:02
Just...
42:03
Where did you watch it?
42:04
Did you finish, call her Alex?
42:05
Yes, is it good?
42:06
So fascinating.
42:07
I was quite sure.
42:08
Okay, I'm going to watch it this weekend, fun.
42:10
It's kind of reignited, I think, the whole Sophia Alex drama.
42:13
Sophia put out a podcast.
42:14
It was like, I hear you all.
42:16
Something's coming and I was like, oh,
42:19
we just put this to bed.
42:20
Oh, she's going to talk about this again.
42:21
And Sophia is like, I came up with Unwell.
42:24
And...
42:26
If you came up with Unwell, why is your podcast so shit?
42:29
And why is it snippet?
42:30
All of your media is so boring.
42:32
You sound like, sorry.
42:34
Really?
42:35
She's, I can't handle that.
42:36
And then I like got made deep and I thought, you know what?
42:40
I'm just going to deep on the scene.
42:42
I'm like, you honestly are so...
42:44
Did she talk?
42:45
I can't.
42:46
I can't even hear what's in the microphone.
42:48
And honestly, I'm not even necessarily...
42:50
Ah!
42:51
I'm like, who are you?
42:53
Like, she's got a much more sexy...
42:54
She's trying to say that.
42:55
I know, I know.
42:56
We're like...
42:57
I don't know, that's so funny.
42:59
But I just think, if you look at what's happened since that whole thing,
43:02
you cannot claim that it's not money alone, that's got her there.
43:06
That's creative genius, that's hard work.
43:08
Totally.
43:09
And that's going crazy.
43:10
Yeah.
43:11
Everything in life is a bit of luck, but it's 10% luck, 9% hard work.
43:15
I also, it's funny, on the documentary, there's a snippet,
43:18
the first podcast they put out.
43:20
And strategically, I think that Alex is included in the documentary.
43:23
Alex, like, we just thought, was that a podcast?
43:25
And she's like, yeah, I'm just here writing on Alex's co-tales.
43:30
It's like...
43:31
Ooh.
43:33
Shit.
43:34
Shit, you're busted.
43:36
But I love how everyone's there with the popcorn, just being like, oh my god, oh my god.
43:39
You know, I think it's quite been quite a good PR.
43:42
Even that.
43:43
It's been such a good PR, and yet Sophia's podcast and socials is still...
43:47
I know.
43:48
I wouldn't podcast if I was her.
43:49
Same.
43:50
It'll be too close to home.
43:51
But also, I guess, in a way good on her for not having that...
43:54
Because people would still be talking about it two years later, you know.
43:56
But I was going to say, to not have the ego to stop you.
44:01
It's quite impressive.
44:02
It's like, if you stop a competitive sport, but you still coach or whatever.
44:05
Yeah.
44:06
It's quite amazing to be able to still be in that realm,
44:08
knowing that you're not top of your game.
44:10
I think that's quite cool.
44:11
Yeah.
44:12
If you can't do a teach.
44:13
But the fact that she's still doing it is quite impressive.
44:16
Because I'm the same.
44:17
I'd be like, no, okay.
44:18
We had to probably stick that from that.
44:20
I'd just find it traumatic.
44:22
Yeah.
44:23
What could have been?
44:24
But you can't escape her.
44:25
Alex is everywhere.
44:26
I know.
44:27
Imagine.
44:28
It's like an ex-boyfriend that just doesn't go away.
44:30
And flaunts his new girlfriend all over social media.
44:33
So, okay.
44:34
So, the girl that I knew when I lived in Sydney was dating JoJo Siwa, that child star
44:39
from...
44:40
Oh, yes.
44:41
And...
44:42
Oh, my God.
44:43
I didn't realise Mesa was under the couch.
44:44
Mesa, up here.
44:45
Oh, darling.
44:46
It must be quite hot for you covered in black fur.
44:48
But basically JoJo went on big brother.
44:51
Yeah.
44:52
Oh, yeah.
44:53
And started dating as a guy.
44:54
Started dating now.
44:55
Chris Hughes from Love Island, whatever his name is.
44:56
And...
44:57
She's like, we're just friends.
44:58
We're just friends.
44:59
I'm just like looking at care, thinking.
45:00
Imagine watching that unfold on national television.
45:03
And then not being able to get away from it
45:04
because both of them are such huge celebrities.
45:06
Yeah.
45:07
And it's just...
45:08
You're not in a time where you can necessarily mute everything.
45:11
Don't.
45:12
Celebrities.
45:13
Yeah.
45:14
God.
45:15
Yeah.
45:16
Anyway.
45:17
Luckily, we're probably not fishing in that pool.
45:18
But, yeah.
45:19
Although I did join Ryan.
45:21
Oh, nice.
45:22
Yeah.
45:23
It's quite funny.
45:24
No one talks to anyone on that.
45:25
Oh, yeah.
45:26
I feel like it's...
45:27
I thought that we're there today.
45:28
Not just getting ego boost for someone liking you.
45:31
Like, can we all talk?
45:32
Never anyone on it where I was.
45:34
Oh, no, there's too many people.
45:36
Hi, darling.
45:37
Okay.
45:38
Are we done?
45:39
We're done.
45:40
Bye.
45:41
Oh.
45:42
We're really...
45:43
I'm really hot.
45:44
Yeah, I'm really hot too.
45:45
We have our boot camp starting...
45:47
Oh, yes.
45:48
...in like a week.
45:49
So, if you would like to learn about investing...
45:51
It's not your typical boot camp.
45:53
Yeah, you're not doing burpees.
45:54
If you want to...
45:55
I mean, you can if you want, but yeah.
45:57
Yeah, maybe if you don't do your homework,
45:59
you make yourself do burpees.
46:00
You should make people do burpees.
46:02
No, that won't encourage people to come.
46:03
No, no, it won't.
46:04
But it's for beginners.
46:05
So, if you're learning...
46:06
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46:07
...if you're wanting to learn about splitting your pay
46:08
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46:10
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46:12
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46:14
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46:21
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Honestly, you will come out of it
46:25
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46:27
So, if you haven't pulled the trigger,
46:29
like, this is something that I wanted to do for ages,
46:32
I can hand on heart state that by the end of it,
46:35
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46:37
We actually even start you off with a small amount
46:40
during the course to help you, like,
46:41
we'll all do it together to help.
46:43
Well, does it cross that threshold?
46:45
Well, it's just like just doing it.
46:46
I think that you can think about it with cows come home,
46:48
but if you're not actually doing it,
46:49
then it's just like...
46:50
And I'm so like that sometimes, right?
46:52
So, I'm like, oh my god, yeah, I'm going to do
46:54
10 minutes of abs every day.
46:56
And then...
46:57
Come tomorrow, I'm like, I'll start tomorrow.
46:59
I'll start tomorrow.
47:00
You just need...
47:01
Sometimes you just need to kick up the butt.
47:02
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47:03
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47:07
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