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From Oil Barons to Pill Pushers: The Rockefeller War on Health w/ Jeff Adam · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So in breaking news, there is a case of bubonic plague in America. Now the reality is this happens all the time. But, of course, there's all kinds of fear porn going on around it, everyone's saying, oh, plague is happening in America.
• 0:32
  And people are going viral on Twitter talking about plague in America. But the reality is this happens every year. There's cases of it. Antibiotics are what treat it. But today's discussion was my good friend Jeff Adam, who is, really an expert in antibiotics and a lot of the the history of our health system.
• 0:49
  And so when we're talking about the plague, what is the bubonic plague? And not focusing too much on it, but looking at more of it from a historical perspective and going back into the the plague that wiped out millions and millions of people on Earth. No. I'm not talking about the COVID pandemic. I'm talking about the real plague that happened a long time ago, but also looking at the role of silver and the the phrase of, you know, being born with a silver spoon in your mouth and how that was tied to the plague and how it wasn't about just because you're wealthy, but actually what it was tying into was actually the silver spoon is what kept you healthy from the plague.
• 1:20
  And so we're talking about the historical uses of silver, but leading right up into the nineteen twenties when, guess what, famous family came in, the Rockefellers. And because they couldn't patent silver, which at that time was the world's most prescribed antibiotic, they created the modern antibiotic industry. And, of course, nowadays, if you go to your local doctor because you have some sort of infection or whatever it is, they're not giving you silver. They're giving you a pharmaceutical drug that was grown in a lab and then synthesized with chemicals and all that. So we're going into a whole kind of long timeline of history, but in looking at how understanding the past helps us to understand where we are right now.
• 1:58
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• 3:07
  Again, that's 7738015366. Mister Jeff Adam, it's good to have you on the show. Thank you for being with us here today.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. This is becoming a regular thing. We, you know, we have such a good time when we come on your show. It's just like two guys chatting, and everybody's got a world into our conversations.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: That's what I like about it too is that I mean, sometimes we'll talk about, okay. Here's here's some topics we'll cover, but it's it's nothing scripted. And it's really no different than, say, me saying, hey, Jeff. Wanna come over for coffee? And we sit down, we talk for an hour, we just record it.
• 3:40
  And then we put it up for people. And that's what I like. That's actually think it's why podcasts have become so popular because people are fed up with the Mockingbird media and all the, you know, the the the perfectly presented information. Because I think people are realizing that that's oftentimes how they lie to us through this perfectly presented storyline. And it's yeah.
• 3:58
  Yes. You and I could be sitting here spewing lies, but I think most people that have some discernment, they can sense that, and they're gonna say, yeah. There's there's something not right here, and they'll move on. So, anyway, it's it's nice to nice to chat with you.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We've boy, there's some really interesting things we can talk about today. There's a lot of stuff going on in the world. And, you talked to me earlier, that, I think the bubonic plague has made has reared its ugly head in California.
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's funny because it just popped up as we're we're kinda doing our show prep. And, yeah, so I guess a resident in South Lake South Lake Tahoe, California has tested positive for plague, which I think is is bubonic plague, according to local health authorities. And the person is believed to have been bitten by an infected flea while camping. Now I went and because, you know, I'm not a a student of of the plague, but went and looked it up.
• 4:45
  So it says, plague is an illness you get from Yersinia pestis bacterium. You usually get the most common form, bubonic plague, from flea bites, but you can get pneumonic plague from someone who's infected. Says that plague caused deadly pandemics in the past and still exist in many countries today. You can survive plague if you're treated with antibiotics quickly. And so it's interesting because I saw that there's a handful of posts on on Twitter of people freaking out.
• 5:11
  Like, the plague is back in America. And you look up, it's actually well, it's like every year, there's there's some cases of that plague, and it's treated pretty quickly. But I think it's also worth looking at just historically the role the plague has has played in in the shaping of humanity, but it's it's a perfect opportunity to, like, you know, kinda dig into what is one of your areas of expertise, which is antibiotics and the the invention of the modern antibiotics, but also looking at, the history of what did we do before modern antibiotics. So I guess I'll let you start off, and maybe you you wanna describe the difference between pneumonic and bubonic plague and give us, like, your background of just understanding of plague.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: Well well, the bubonic plague, there's a lot of confusion because you hear bubonic plague, but it went into, like you said, the pneumonic plague and the septicemic plague. So septicemic is when it goes into the blood, the pneumonic plague is when it goes into the lungs and causes pneumonia, and the pneumonic is really one of the most deadly ones because it affects the respiratory system. But they've all been kind of batched together and understanding that it's a bacteria. It's usually in rodents, and then those rodents get bit by a flea, sometimes a mosquito. Fleas are a little better distribution source because they're thicker, they can hold the temperature for the bacteria to survive more than a mosquito will.
• 6:30
  But, you know, that that insect, you know, bite something, comes to you, bites you, now it gets into your system and and you get the bacteria. And it's a rapid growing bacteria. And, you know, when you think about what the bubonic plague did, you know, it was 1348 to 1350, What people don't know about the pandemic.
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: Was only two years? That's it?
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all it was. But it killed three hundred million people around the world. Killed thirteen percent of the population. So when you look at what they went, the pandemic we went through, and they said, it's the plague. Can you imagine now if it killed thirteen percent of our population, the numbers of death and devastation that would happen?
• 7:09
  You know, and that's why it's important to understand our history of what's going on, you know, going back and looking at it. And when you look at a lot of the pharmaceuticals, a lot of the powers that be want to wipe out our history, because if you don't see how far you've come, and where you've come from, you can't see the successes, it's easy to get people to manipulate them to say, Oh, well, you know, we're not growing, we're not doing this, we're not, know, slavery was just a couple years ago, and every black person was a slave, you know, and when you wipe out your history, you wipe out your future. And that's why I like what you talked about me earlier is, you know, let's get into some of the understanding about how some of this stuff worked, how it came about, and why a lot of these deadly diseases didn't exist, you know, forty, fifty years ago, sixty years ago. You know, somebody got sick or this like, when you look at celiac disease, you know, it's an autoimmune, it wasn't around before 1973. You know, when they modified the wheat and they went from seven simple protein molecules to three complex protein molecules that your body has a very hard time breaking down, especially after you're 33 years old, suddenly a new disease pops up.
• 8:20
  So, know, with the plague understanding the plague, it's a bacterial infection and modern medicines do help, but medicines weren't made to cure. They were meant to treat symptoms and make you feel better and complicated by the fact that none of us take the medicines to fulfillment. So you know you get out of prednisone. You know it's a ten day supply. You take it for seven.
• 8:45
  Feel better go. I'll put it in my drawer and if I see it coming out again, I'll it. That's also part of why the MRSA and these other super drugs have come about, is it's not taking it to fulfillment. But the bigger problem with pharmaceuticals is that they are synthetic, meaning they don't assimilate in the body, they get stored in the fat tissue, but your body perceives them as a threat. So they have to put immunosuppressors in with pharmaceuticals, because your body will attack them because it's a synthetic.
• 9:16
  So every drug out there actually shuts down your immune system or tries to reverse it so your body does not attack that drug from doing its job and you know, immunization is the better part. Let's build up the immune system, get the immune system working properly and you know, God put it in us. Our bodies can do great things and great healing, but we have to have the proper mineralization. You know the minerals and the foods that we have you know the farm fields you know you used to give them a year's seven years rest so that the soy could remineralize and we just don't do it. And that's part of a growing, you know, population.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: But so getting into because I'm I'm I've I've been going into, actually, a lot of my recent interviews, the modern pharmaceutical industry industry. I did an interview with doctor Ealy recently talking about the Flexner Report and how that changed the licensing, but also then how the Rockefellers is one of the main families well, other families of other Carnegies were involved, and I'm sure that, you know, JPMorgan, probably the Rothschilds, you know, finding things from behind the scenes, of course. But how they changed this industry that used to be derived from nature. So my father-in-law, he's in his seventies. He, so he's in Australia, and he he's been a lifelong pharmacist.
• 10:29
  And but when he was young, he was on the cusp of when he's learning pharmaceuticals and learning how to be a pharmacist, that he was still taught natural compounding. So he was you know, if you think about the apothecary, right, or the local compounder, you'd go in, and he would have
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: you know, he'd he'd be able to be able
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: to look at the different, you know, substances and minerals, and he'd compound them for you. And he'd be able to offer you a solution, and that's that's used to be how things were were done. But he was the kinda last generation to learn those things, but he was also learning the modern pharmaceutical industry as well. And so now that the you know, he's retired, but he owned a few pharmacies. But now those pharmacies are really the same as what a CVS or a Walgreens is in America.
• 11:09
  What are going in there? And the the reps there or the the pharmacists there, all their job really is, as far as I understand, is to basically, like, look at your medicines you're taking, make sure that there's not any bad crossovers between those medicines. Like, oh, you can't have those two because this is gonna affect your blood. This affects your heart, and there's a bad a bad mix there. But, basically, they they're just the the drug dealers.
• 11:30
  Right? The guy on the street that says, okay. Hey. This is some real high grade crack I've got for you. It came out of Tijuana.
• 11:36
  Right? It's just they're they're just the the lab coated drug dealers that are there to make sure you get your drugs. And I'm not demonizing them because a lot of them are doing it because they're helping people. And as you mentioned, you know, if you get bubonic plague, you go in and you get a an antibiotic. True.
• 11:51
  Exactly. It's gonna save your life. And so, of course, there's good things that come out of that, But something happened. Something shifted in the in this industry, though. We've gone into this really being kinda controlled by these this this big pharma system.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well well, that's the introduction of Carnegie. You know, you know, Carnegie, Ringling Brothers, you know, the the the entertainment aspect of it. They taught the Rockefellers, the Vanderbilts, the Chases, the, you know, walkers, the bushes, all these people, you know, to deflect. Look over here, while this hand is doing the underhanded things.
• 12:28
  And that's where, you know, Rockefeller really when silver, you know, was the number one prescribed antibiotic in the world before 1923. And Rockefeller tried to patent it. And that was before the formation of big pharma. But it was all natural, but it was also part of our monetary system, so he couldn't. A couple years later, they discovered penicillin and realized, hey, if we make a synthetic version of this, we can patent it.
• 12:53
  So every single pharmaceutical drug out there is plant derived, they take the compound, they isolate and go, how can we make this part man made? Because if we can make it man made, we can patent it, we control the supply, So when the demand outweighs the supply, profits go up and they realize that you can control the market that way. And that's been the evil behind it because it's going from a point of interest and humanity to the point of profit. And that's why they always say follow the money, you know, where does it go? And it's gotten to the point where the corruption is so bad and everything becomes about profits that now humans become a commodity that's disposable and renewable, but the profits aren't.
• 13:36
  And I had a conversation with somebody that used to be part of big pharma and we're talking about cancer and you know cancer cures and he said well before they would you know there's a theory they would kill you if you came up with a cure for cancer and he's like no, it's not that way anymore, He said, they would get rid of you if the insurance companies will pay you for that. He said, cure cancer, they're fine. They don't want the insurance companies paying for that because the money from the insurance companies goes to big pharma and it's become all about profits.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Interesting. And so and I think also control. Right? Because it's how many people are just are completely addicted. Not just addicted to the pharmaceuticals, but also just reliant on them.
• 14:17
  You know, it just they take their seven meds. They have their little pill container with their Monday through, you know, through Sunday or whatever, and every day, they have their their medications. And so but you made a good point, because I'm right I think it's what is it that I think aspirin is in a certain tree bark.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Acetaminophen is white willow bark.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: There you go. Yes. And so that's it's to look at it from this is why, like, you know, in these conversations, I'm just kinda distilling it down to the basic principles and patterns. It's really recognizing that all these just about all these things that they've created to, quote, unquote, cure us or keep us healthy are just things that existed in nature. It's like they're they're what they're doing is they're stealing God's design.
• 14:55
  They're then creating it as man. Right? They're synthesizing and creating the synthetic version so they can then corner the market on it. But then what they do is they demonize the original design from God. Right?
• 15:06
  And I I remember, you know, when my wife was pregnant, you know, about a year and a half ago, she gave birth before then, we're looking at different solutions and different things we could, you know, use for her, it was, you know, raspberry leaf tea or different things to kind of strengthen her and and help her, you know, in that kind of the birthing process, etcetera. And it was crazy because, you you go into a hospital, they'll give you potassium. They'll give you these really strong chemicals and painkillers. And, obviously, once the baby's born, they got vitamin k shots and all the vaccines, and all that's, like, perfectly okay according to them. But if she was gonna go look at, for instance, say, hypothetically, say, oregano oil.
• 15:42
  Right? And say she was looking at oregano oil and see know, if if you search, is oregano oil safe for pregnant women? What you almost every time what you would see is this has not been approved. There have not been enough studies, and we cannot safely recommend this for pregnant women. Like, over and over again, it's all you see.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Well, and when you look at their drug for it, you know, so like you said, pertussin, you look at that, there's a big long list of side effects, including the one thing they're protecting you from. And they want you to take it, but the all natural thing, go, you know, some of them make claims. Like when I looked at the one company on silver, colloidal silver, it said could cause brain damage, could affect the kidneys and the cerebral growth in developing children. And then underneath it, it said no significant studies have done to verify these statements. So what they don't want you to take, it's like, hey.
• 16:36
  You shouldn't take this because we think it's bad. But what they do want you to take, there's a long list. And that list, if that happened, people had to experience that in order for them to put it on that list.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Which is crazy. It's crazy. Same. So looking at just looking at antibiotics. Right?
• 16:52
  So you mentioned that up until, what, 1923 or so, that silver was the most commonly prescribed antibiotic around the world. Right? So walk us through the history of that. And, actually, let's let's also touch on the plague too because, you know, the common saying is that, oh, you know, you're born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Like, that I didn't know what that meant.
• 17:13
  I thought that what it meant was that you're wealthy, and you're you're born so wealthy that you could eat with a silver spoon. But, actually, it's not about that. So walk us through some of the historical references to to silver and how it's been used and how it's been then been demonized once modern antibiotics came out.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So like you said, before 1923, it was the number one prescribed antibiotic in the world. And I mean, it's actually going back to three thousand years before Christ, the Phoenicians would line their water vessels with silver because they realized that the water wouldn't stagnate. You know, so they it's been in I mean, throughout history, silver is the most tested antibiotic, antifungal, anti parasitical microbial product in the world throughout history, because it's been used for so long. And then, know, 1923 rolls around and Rockefeller decides that, know, when they're looking at the formation of big pharma, hey, you know, we could could make this a medicine.
• 18:08
  And he wanted to patent it. And you can't patent something that's natural. And silver is part of a monetary system, which you know, Rockefeller did with stocks and bonds and stuff like that. So they wanted to control manipulate it, but he couldn't patent it. So a couple years later, they discovered penicillin, where they could make a synthetic version as an antibiotic.
• 18:31
  They could try to control the supply, when the demand outweighs the supply, prices go up. So then it becomes just a marketing thing. But you go back the late 1800s, scientists would sterilize their petri dishes by putting coins in the petri dishes to sterilize them before they did a study. And then even before refrigeration, know, everybody had the ice boxes on their front porch, but the delivery trucks didn't. So they would actually drill holes in silver coins, put a string on it and put in every bottle of milk.
• 19:01
  Then And when they took it up to the porch, they pull the coin out and stick the milk in your icebox for refrigeration. But silver just had, you know, throughout history, it's had tons of tons of uses on it. If you go to the journals of medicine before 1965, there was 5,000 references to silver in the journals of medicine. You know, now there's less than 100, because it's such a natural antibiotic, antifungal, antibacterial, and it's so effective that big pharma can't control it. Know, they can't license it, they can't patent it.
• 19:33
  As a matter of fact, like you were talking about in the plague. So the plague was 1348 to 1350. People don't realize only two years, or a couple years. Thirteen percent of the population around the world died at that point, which was almost three hundred million people. So that's why when we were looking at with COVID, when they're going, Oh, it's the plague.
• 19:52
  Can you imagine if thirteen percent of the six trillion people died? I mean, that's unfathomable. I mean, you'd be looking at hundred billions of people dead versus you know what it was. But the term born with your silver spoon in your mouth was during that time because less than one quarter of 1% of those 300,000,000 people were wealthy. And they ate off a real silverware.
• 20:20
  And then you know, when you scrape the fork or the spoon or fork or knife on your teeth, little particles of silver would get in your body, and you didn't seem to be affected by the plague. So doctors would prescribe people to walk around with silver spoons in your mouth, and that's where that whole thing, you know, born with a silver spoon in your mouth means does not apply to you. You you took it as means you have special rights because you're wealthy. It it was more of a medical thing. And then, actually, the tradition of giving silver pacifiers to babies were born during that era so that they wouldn't get the plague.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Because actually so was we had a couple silver spoons floating around, because I used to have a metals buying business. Right? So I you know, before before I did Made in America, I had a little shop. You would walk in, and I'd buy over the counter.
• 21:05
  I'd get, you know, scrap junk silver or diamonds or Rolexes. And, you know, it's a was fun fun. You know? I was seeing what was coming in that day, especially the old estates. People come in like, oh, my my grandmother passed away, and there's a big box of costume jewelry.
• 21:19
  You look through it? And I'd say, of course. And sometimes I'd find, like, $10,000 worth of, like, gold necklaces and silver because people didn't recognize it, but I was you know, had a background in the jewelry industry at one point in my life, and so I was able to sort through those things. But I kept, you know, a bag of somebody took the scrap silver, and I remember maybe a year or two ago, I was like, I think I have some silver spoons there. So I got them out and gave them for my kids to play with.
• 21:42
  Like, let let them eat off of them, and I thought, okay. But I didn't realize that they were actually they would give they would give babies silver pacifiers. But what's crazy is that now where where does this where does this exist? Right? Whereas you walk into Target, into the, you know, childcare, it's gonna be synthetic materials and plastic with microplastics.
• 22:00
  Where's the silver pacifier existing in in the the kind of modern system?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. In the mineralization. And this is what we're seeing in the soils too with with, farmers. You know, they used to let their soil the soils rest, you know, they've gotten rid of a lot of the natural fertilizers that they put in, and they've gone to synthetics, which actually rob and strip the soil of things that actually, you know, cause the mineralization of soil. So when you look at the time of the, you know, when the buffaloes roam the earth, you know, they would spend a certain amount of time in a certain pasture and then they would move.
• 22:38
  And you know, of course, they defecate in there, they urinate, they walk, they churn it up, they're mixing that stuff in the minerals in the body that get washed out through what they're eating, go back into the soil, and that soil became very rich. So there's now actually some farmers that have started to do that, not only with the cows, actually bringing Buffalo in, And they're sectioning off their herds, they're keeping them in that area for two, three months and then moving them. And they're finding out that the soil is remineralizing and getting a lot of the not quite prehistoric, but some older types of soil where the grasses are growing again. The wildlife's coming back there. The birds are bringing different things from they're eating from other areas and different minerals through their waste products are getting into the soil, and it's becoming a very good growing environment for crops.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Interesting. So I was talking to one of my friends, his name is Billy Bond. He's great permaculture guy, and he was helping telling us about how, basically, we we had our property we used to have back in Ohio, we had, like, a three acre pasture that was kind of dead soil, just some some grass growing on it. And what he said, said, look. You set up for one, he said he said, put some swales in.
• 23:46
  But then he said, but, know, get some sheep. And what you do is you then you have your sheep. You use electric fence. You put them in this area for a couple of days. Then you move them, but you always have the chickens with them.
• 23:54
  So you have the the chickens that follow the sheep, the chickens that take the sheep poop. They they break it apart. They dig out the parasites that are growing and everything. And Hughes is telling us how this after this process, after a little bit of time doing that, you can build incredible soil, which makes perfect sense in in terms of what you're talking about.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The chickens help create a great ecosystem in that area with the sheep and the plant life. And so along with, you know, the the feces from the animals, you get a lot of, you know, little bugs and parasites and stuff like that. Well, the chickens eat those you know, and the chickens actually create a lot of vitamin C and a lot of minerals in their body naturally. So you know, they lay eggs, the eggs get broken, you know, stuff like that.
• 24:38
  That also helps to remineralize the soil. It's really kind of neat when you look at ecosystems, even like I've got 177,000 gallon fish pond. I've got about, it's beautiful seven waterfalls, I was bored, I built it myself, I created my own filters. And I have about 500 or 600 koi fish in there. Wow.
• 25:00
  And the filters, you know, clean that out really well. And I really don't have to do much to keep the water clean. So we've got, you know, you I've got five different ponds, a couple more filtration ponds covered with tons of plants, you know, with lily pads and all this other stuff. That stops the sun from creating a lot of algae, but creates good bacteria. And so by the time it goes through its cycle, the water is almost perfectly clear.
• 25:27
  But I get about 400 gallons of all natural fertilizer that's high in phosphate from the fish waste and the plants. Like I said, it's its own equal environment. And when I clean my filters a couple times a month, I use that as fertilizer for my gardens. You know, my plants are just growing robust. And these were all things God put in our society.
• 25:46
  And you know, when you look at areas that are untouched by man, you know, they're like utopias. You know, creates its own environment, its own bacteria specialized stuff. And what we've seen with big pharma and also understanding who big pharma is. Big pharma is the chemical companies that's creating the fertilizers. They're the ones that are making paints, making perfumes.
• 26:11
  They are chemical companies that basically are the arsonist that's starting the fire and then getting credit for calling the fire department and putting the fire out and going, wow, where there's good people. No, you're the cause of what's going on. And so they're making us sick with the chemicals and the fertilizers. They're doing a lot of gene modification so that these like ConAg, that only their fertilizer will grow their seeds, you know, and the manipulation in the name of profits. It's really tragic that we've gotten to that point where it's become such big business.
• 26:47
  And I think we need to get back to having a whole lot of small businesses that are specialists in doing this thing that are part of the environment or the ecosystem where they live, instead of having a couple of centralized big companies that could care less about this, that view humans as a renewable commodity in the name of profits. And I don't think their goal is to kill you. Their goal is to keep you alive long enough to take every penny you'll ever make, which to me is more insidious.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: That's true. Absolutely. So I wanna focus in a little more on the antibiotics, because this is what's interesting to me is that because obviously, antibiotics work, and and they've they have their their place in our society. And if you look at, you know, deaths before antibiotics, you know, people would die from, you know, a common cut or infection. Right?
• 27:33
  Because they had no way of of stemming that. Now, obviously, some people had access to to silver or colloidal silver. I'm sure when colloidal silver was invented, and how long it's been used for, but they would use that to to heal their wounds. I also I heard stories of people even putting, like, silver coins into their like, rubbing silver coins into their wounds, right, to help, kind of sterilize the, you know, the cut. But so we've we've covered the kind of modern petroleum based pharmaceuticals, and made a point in saying that it's the chemical companies that are producing the drugs for us.
• 28:07
  They're chemical drugs or chemical concoctions. So what happens, though, with antibiotics? Because so explain a little more, like, how did they discover antibiotics? How do they then create this massive antibiotics industry? And we know that a lot of the petroleum based pharmaceuticals, if you have too many of them, your liver starts failing.
• 28:31
  Like, your body can't handle that load of of synthetic chemicals coming in. But what about antibiotics? What does that do to the body? What are the longer term risks of antibiotics and using antibiotics to treat whatever illness pops up?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Well, using the natural antibiotics for one, they assimilate in the body, they don't get stored. So when you look at scurvy, which is a vitamin C deficiency, and you can eat lemons or limes, and that'll go away because it acts as a natural antibiotic. Oregano and garlic are natural antibiotics that your body uses. And when it needs them, they build the immune system, but when they need it, it's needed as support, it works as support. Otherwise, it just gets processed through the stomach as a food and gives you energy for your everyday life.
• 29:20
  When you look at the pharmaceuticals, when they rely on the synthetics, again, they have to suppress the immune system. Now you get this synthetic that's stored in your fat tissue. So now it's creating an area of disease in your body. That's what disease means, uncomfortable. It creates an inflammation in your body, so now your body stops absorbing things.
• 29:41
  Well, when you look at silver, you look at copper, you look at zinc, and I've had a lot of questions, people are like, toxic metals, they build up in the body. These are minerals and metals, and that's the difference. When you look at lead, you look at mercury, they're not minerals. They're metals
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that Oh, are
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: so the other
• 29:56
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• 30:57
  The other ones are called what what? Noble metals. Is that right? Yes. Okay.
• 31:01
  Because they're and they're minerals on periodic table. Right?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Right. And you need those in your body to survive. You cannot survive without them. So they're they're essential just like certain vitamins in your body you have to have. So those things are things you have to have in your body.
• 31:16
  They support the immune system. They get your body functioning the way it should and you used to get those from a soil you know so a lot of the soils would have the mineralization in them. You'd eat the plants and it would mineralize your body. Well, the big pharma who makes the fertilizers strip all those natural nutrients from the soil and put theirs in to work with the seeds that they've modified for growth and say, oh, we can do bigger crops, can do, you know, they've got us eating so much food right now. When you look at if you ever go to Europe, you know, people will eat all day long every day and they lose weight because they have a lot of natural minerals in the soil.
• 31:54
  They give their soil the rest. You know, they they've looked for healthy farming techniques. Here in America, we tend to look for fast farming techniques, you know, and the whole while we're running out of food, we're going to starve to death. Well, no, we're eating ourselves to death. You know, let's hit smaller portions with more minerals, and we'll get healthy.
• 32:12
  And, you know, it's interesting in the farming industry, you know, they eradicated cancer in cattle in 1956, and they eradicated diabetes in cattle in 1972, because there was no Medicaid to pay for the dying animals. So they're like, let's just get rid of it. And animals, I think they're a lot smarter than we are. Some of it could be the genetic modification of the foods that we eat, but animals will eat what they need and what's missing in their diet first, and then go for the taste stuff and what I like last. You know, as humans, we tend to eat, you know, by our taste buds and go, I like this and I like that.
• 32:52
  I refuse to go shopping when I'm hungry. Because I'll get every sweet thing, everything I've had a craving for, and then I feel like crap for the next month until I go shopping again or the next week because I filled my body with bad stuff that's, you know, my stomach's bloated, I feel full, but man, I just I'm tired, I'm, you know, it affects your mood, you're cranky, you're just wondering why you don't feel right. And a lot of that is because of the the synthetics in the foods.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's the thing too is that, like, I know that just the difference in in when we eat when what what what we're eating, what we're feeding our kids, especially if we're eating out of our own garden, it's a whole different experience. We have healthy soil towards organic soil, and we we compost and do all these different things, but it's it's such a big difference. But I think that you made a good point, though, you know, with the firefighter reference. Right?
• 33:41
  It's a it's a hegelian dialectic. Right? Create the problem. There's in the reaction. Then you come in with the solution.
• 33:47
  Except I might tweak it a little bit and say, well, they also own the firefighting company. Right? And that's the thing is that they're the ones they start the fire. The fire kills a bunch of people, but then they they bring in the company that puts up the fire that they own the company, and they own the burn treatment center as well. Right?
• 34:01
  And so they're they're profiting at all angles off of this stuff.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Right. And the person that solves that, the doctors, are the heroes that get the accolades. Exactly. Exactly. It's its own ecosystem that works on just corruption after corruption.
• 34:17
  And it's not that doctors are bad. But when you look at, the training the doctors get, they don't do anything in nutrition.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, You know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: and if you can do one thing that is the best possible thing you can do for yourself right now of any product in the world, drink good water.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Your
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: body's That's a not even got water. Drink good water, you'll feel better. So that's why all these companies that sell bottled water, you know, that are multi level and people buy cases of it and they have it in their garage so they can sell it to friends, they're feeling better. Well, yeah, you've got 30,000 cases of water in your garage, you have to drink it so you can park your car in there. You're drinking more water than you ever did, and you feel better.
• 34:57
  And and you believe that this product is curing you. Well, yeah, you're drinking good water.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: So okay. There's actually an interesting this is where you specialize. What is good water? Like, so for us, for instance, we have a well. The region I live in is not it's it's a very hilly and kind of mountainous area, so there's no large scale monocrop agriculture where they're dumping, you know, farmers or they're they're dumping glyphosate and stuff like that into the into the water system.
• 35:24
  So I think we have we have good a good water source, and then we run everything through our bill our Berkey. So we're still taking our well water. We have a a softening system on the house, and then we then put to the Berkey. But, like, what does it mean to have good water? Well,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I I think there's very, very little good water left. And, you know, the Earth has an amazing way of filtering. You know, when you look at these farms and all the runoffs and, you know, when it filters through the soil and the carbon layers and rock layers and you end up with a purified water, that is probably the best thing that you can do is find a good water. But now even the water companies are basically pulling tap water out, bottling it and selling you at the store and go, this is good water for you. And it's not, you know, the RO systems are good, but they strip all the minerals out of the water.
• 36:12
  And they call it dead water, you know, and for a point I can see where it is. I drink distilled water, because when you distill, you're taking everything out of it. And then I've heard people, oh, yeah, well, that's dead water has no benefit. Oh, no, it hydrates you like nothing else. I mean, it's you need that water for your cells to connect, know, for your cells to communicate.
• 36:32
  It's like a dielectric grease that allows the communication of the cells, but it also does not disrupt the tetrahedral structural of water that allows it to store energy. So, a good like distilled water will still have all the functions that your body needs for energy, for storing energy and for the hydration. So you're not going into a deficiency, but also, it help with the lymphatic system, which is used for drainage. You know, a toxic water, get sludgy, it gets thick, your body doesn't expel things from the body the way that it should. So almost any water is better than no water.
• 37:07
  But getting a good quality, well, like you said, well water. Now well water used to be the best water to get, but usually because of the minerals, it was a little tasty or maybe something like sulfur and stuff. With all the villages now having city water, The problem is that a lot of the wells are contaminated because they don't have the turnover, so they get the bacteria in it. And so it's really hard with well water. That's why we have to have such good filtrations.
• 37:31
  Like you said, the Berkey system, there's a couple other systems. There's a system out there that gets rid of the chlorine, the fluorine, the fluoride, the glyphosates that really creates a good water. Those systems are anywhere from you know, 5 to $10,000 for a house, but they've come up with some really good systems that you don't have to, demineralize those systems for ten years. So they become pretty much a maintenance free one. Getting a good filtration system from a well is probably the best water you're gonna get.
• 37:56
  Any store bought water is, know, it's not gonna be too much better than tap water.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Plus it's commonly in plastic bottles. So you're getting all the microplastics and and, you know, who knows what else leaching into there. So kind of going back into into the silver and the antibiotics. So okay. So you said that before '23, that silver was the most commonly prescribed antibiotic, and then they came in.
• 38:19
  We have the modern antibiotics industry. Right? Which is really you know, you you get amoxicillin. I forgot the different names of them. You go in there.
• 38:27
  Comes with powder. You mix it up. You activate it. You you never finish it as you're supposed to. It kinda feel better.
• 38:32
  Right? But, so how does is silver I know it's not easy to kinda equate this, but is silver in the right form can be used instead of those? I mean, is silver something that is more of a, a preventative? Like, I say, if you've you have, like, a daily silver that's kind of slowly cleaning out, these things as they're coming in, or, like, what role does silver have, and and what are the different kinds of silver? Because, you know, there's there's, you know, regular silver.
• 39:04
  There's colloidal silver. There's, I've heard a different name. There's all kinds of silver. So walk us through helping us understand what silver is like now and how it's used and what the different kinds are.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Well, the the big benefit of silver is that it's a mineral that is used by our immune system, and it boosts your immune system helping to get it to function the way it does. Now, typically, colloidal silver was the one that they used for thousands of years, and that's a particle. So it gets little pieces of silver in your system, and it utilizes that in your system for helping destroy bacterias, funguses or viruses. And the way that colloidal ionic and nano silver all work, They only stay active or suspended in the body for six to eight minutes, and then they start precipitating down and get washed out through lymphatic and waste system. The difference is that the colloidal silver, which the particle has a tend to build up in the system.
• 39:55
  And so when you hear about people turning blue, or the threat of egeria, it's because of a colloidal silver at over ten parts per million, and that's how they rate it per strength. At 10 parts per million, the colloidal silver creates biofilms of silver connecting the silver creating bigger molecules that get trapped in the structure of the skin, as your body goes to expel it, through your lymphatic and your waste system. And then you go out in the sunlight and it dyes your skin a bluish gray color. You have to have a whole lot of it to do it. But that's why they always sell a colloidal silver under 10 parts per million, because over 10 parts million it creates biofilms.
• 40:30
  Then the next generation was the ionic silver where they created into ions, it's an electronic transference. And it was highly effective. Now you could go into hundreds of parts per million with the ionic silver. And the problem with all three colloidal ionic and nano silver is that they only stay active in the body for six to eight minutes. So you really have a limited amount of time for their availability, but you would take it multiple times per day.
• 40:59
  So really, you got sick with something, you would take one of those silvers every hour on the hour to build up the immune system. And it was highly effective. The way that those silvers work is they enter a cell and once they enter the cell, they disrupt the chemical lung of the single cell organism and the type of suffocation, they hit it with ionic charge killing it. Now that silver is trapped inside that dead cell, and it gets washed out to lymphatic and waste system. So it's very limited on its form and function.
• 41:28
  I didn't do nano silvers because they're kind of made the same, two electrodes in water. So colloidal silver's arc is here, ionic silver's deeper, nano silver's deeper yet. The deeper the arc, the smaller the molecule. But what I found is that with the nano silver, is that if somebody's sick, their body is highly acidic. And it can flip polarity because water's polar, so you have a positive and a negative.
• 41:57
  And it can flip polarity in different environments. So it may not work become toxic in some people's body where it doesn't work. So it was very limited in its application. And that's how we invented the micronic silver. So ours isn't the statically driven one that everybody else has.
• 42:13
  We actually invented the machinery and equipment. Ours is a three step process, not just the two electrodes and water. Ours became stabilized, meaning that ours will last more than six to eight minutes in the body, it's usually eight to ten hours. But also, ours is the only silver that's not destroyed by stomach acid because of the stability. So all other silvers, whether it's colloidal, ionic or nano, they're affected by light, heat, temperature, you'll always see on the bottle store in a dark place, you know, because it's reactive.
• 42:43
  So when we create the micronic silver, it's actually stabilized where ours is not destroyed by stomach acid where the other silvers are. So it's a doable delivery. It's ingestive. But ingestive is kind of a wrong term. It's absorbed through the lining of the stomach through osmosis like water.
• 42:57
  So it doesn't actually have to go through the digestive tract, and then sublingual being absorbed under the tongue. So those are the four different types of silver. Colloidal, it's been around the longest, ionic, nano, and then micronic.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: And so micronic didn't exist before you, right? You and your team, you actually invented micronic silver.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my partner, Michelle and I, we invented it. We invented the equipment that make it. You know, there's been so much misinformation. Anytime there's something that works, you're gonna find misinformation by the other people going, we don't want you to have this. Take our long list of chemicals, it's better for you.
• 43:33
  So we actually built the machinery and process that restructures that are so ion and get it to create ozone itself. So ours is the three step process that we've created. So nobody else in the world has it. And we are noted as the only people in one hundred years to create a new category of silver. And we're the only one in the history of the world to stabilize it where it stays active in the body a lot longer.
• 43:53
  So it's more effective in the body.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: And so is it? So with my chronic silver, because we've seen the evolution again, you walked us through the thousands year old colloidal getting up to where we are now. What does it do? Like, so say you take some because I have your product. We we actually take it all the time.
• 44:12
  My favorite is your is your nasal spray. Like, that stuff, even when I have a bad cough, it, like, stops my cough, just the nasal spray.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: The micronic or the sonic mist?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's a sonic mist. Stuff The that's really burns
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. The ones that's like it's like it, like, wakes up your entire system in your head. Right? Use it all the time.
• 44:31
  If I'm a little stuffy or wheezy or coffee, it just clears everything out. But so what happens when you take just the silver? Right? Like, what does it do? How do you feel?
• 44:43
  Like, what how does it affect your your health?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Well, the the regular silvers, like I said, they'll work on the disruption of the bacteria, with the immune system, and it takes, you know, a couple days for them to really take effect and then you start feeling better. The micronic silver is different in the aspect that the other silvers are absorbed into the cell where the micronic silver is exocellular. So when you got your bacteria, fungus or virus, you got your silver micron, when it comes in contact, it actually steals the electron pulling it through the membrane wall of the bacteria, fungus or virus, and it takes it in, give it, and the micron is a form of an ion meaning missing electrons, it cannot hang on to that battery of life. It ejects it into the nearest thing, which is a blood cell giving you energy. So you tend to feel an energizing pickup with the micronic silver versus the other silvers.
• 45:32
  And it's not that the other silvers are bad, they work the way that they work, they're very limited in function. The micronic silvers just become more efficient. And ours is also antiseptic because ours works right away where the other ones take a little bit of time to work. So everybody should have a silver product in their medicine cabinet. I would, of course, I would recommend ours because I think ours is much, much better.
• 45:53
  But even our testimonies and the customers that buy our product, that we've had many people that have used colloidal and ionic silvers go, yours is different. Yours is much better. It's worked. So we don't want to give silver a bad name in the industry because everybody should be on it. The hospitals have used it for years.
• 46:10
  Doctor. John Richardson, who John Richardson Jr. Been on your show, I believe many times, his dad invented the Silverdeen cream that hospitals use for burns. And they've used it, you know, they've used that since the early 70s, I think for burns. And now hospitals are now putting, silver ions on surfaces to kill bacteria, fungus and viruses.
• 46:32
  So there are applications for silver in the medical industry, but they want it to more be a device, you know that you can you can put on something, you know, doorknobs and stuff like this to help bacterial spread where silver is probably the best thing you can do in your body for supporting your immune system to fight the bacteria's fungus or viruses.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Just a good just kind of an idea came to my mind is, like, what if you if you invented some sort of silver mister that was, like, as you're sitting in your living room and, you know, kinda like a like a essential oil diffuser. But something that just maybe every once every hour, just goes like a just sprays a little bit silver into the air. You know, may maybe it's a future product. I mean, that that could be something I would think that would probably really help for indoor air quality and everything.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Well well, that's what so when you see these ionizers that people put in their houses, it's usually silver ions.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: So they have a little fan that blows over this and it sprays a little bit of water on an electrode cathode or diode that creates silver ions and it spreads it throughout the air.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: They
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: use it in hot tubs too. So the ionizers and hot tubs are actually putting silver into it. Know, they don't want you to know this stuff. There was actually a company that was making a washing machine for your clothes that had an ion generator in it, silver, and they refused to allow it to be sold in The United States.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Under what grounds?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: It's a medical device. It's an unauthorized medical device because they will not give them a patent on a medical device using silver.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: And incredible. And so I guess let me pull your website up because it's you know, because you you have a bunch of stuff on there. And we again, we I've got, like, a whole set of your products in our in our medicine, you know, cabinet. It's one of the first things we we go to. So mycronicsilver.com.
• 48:21
  So walk us through what are some of the key items that you have on here and what do they do?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: So the My Chronic Silver dietary supplement is basically, a great preventative. So, we take it daily, about a teaspoon a day, and we just tend to not get sick. It really helps make a robust immune system in your body. And you can attest to it. It tastes like water.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, it tastes like nothing. Yeah. It's just yeah.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So what we've really found is that a lot of people with mentally handicapped children love this stuff because the children are more sensitive to taste. And so they can actually put it in their water bottles and stuff and they'll take it. So that's one of our flagship products. The other one there, the Aleozone, is an incredible product.
• 49:08
  That's the only product we have that actually does not have silver in it. It's a 100% ozone trapped in an Aleoropa oil. So because of our technology with the ozone, or the silver stabilization, we created the allele zone and we are the only people I know of that can trap ozone 100% in oil. This reduces pain and inflammation on soft tissue in about eight minutes. So for and for bee stings, for bug bites, put it on and in minutes the pain's gone away.
• 49:39
  For twisted ankles, you know, torn muscles, you put it on, and it helps soothe the nerve reducing inflammation. So when you have pain, especially with an injury, 80% of that pain is inflammation of the tissue around the nerve pressing on the nerve. This takes that pain, takes that inflammation away, so 80% of the pain goes away.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: And if you get a burn, it takes the heat out of the burn immediately to stop the burn from setting into the lower layers of skin. And then it also takes the pressure off the capillaries, allowing oxygen to flow back and forth. It absolutely helps promote the start of healing immediately, where a lot of times the inflammation kind of squeezes on your veins and capillaries, not allowing the oxygen flow, so that actually retards the healing. And for like, pulled muscles and bruises and stuff like that, You know, ice is one of the worst things you can do is because it congeals the blood and it stops the healing process, but it also starts a necrosis, which now your muscles tighten up, and that's why the next day it's really hard to move is because those muscles could put ice on it, where this is a better alternative than putting ice on it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Interesting, okay. So walk us through Silva Zone, the topical Silva
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Zone is a combination of our dietary supplement and our Aleazone salve. So the Aleozone, well, you've seen Aleozone, it's like a navel jelly, almost like a Vaseline, where the Silva Zone cream is actually a skin cream that has a fractionated coconut oil base, which actually goes down to the subcutaneous level of skin and hydrates up over the next eight to ten hours, drastically reducing arthritis and joint pain.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I see. Okay. So this
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: is this is like a therapeutic skin cream. It moisturizes the skin, hydrates it, but also reduces arthritis and joint pain in minutes.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. And so, actually, is this an what is the nasal spray? Actually, this is right here. Right? The the sonic mist.
• 51:34
  Right? This this is the one that I I use almost daily. Even if I'm just feeling a little bit a little bit, like, tired or my head feels a little bit cloudy, it it's like, it reminds me, like, the smelling salts. Right? You take someone who's kinda dopey, and they get smelling salts.
• 51:50
  All of sudden, they're just, like, wide awake. That's what this stuff is.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this one is, we have the two nasal sprays. We have the micronic nasal spray and the sonic mist. The sonic mist is silver ozone hemp and CBD put together with lemongrass and a couple other oils. The reason we did it with that is that not only will it's will it doesn't have the silver in it, but it helps the silver stay suspended in your sinuses and your nasal passages because the regular like silver nasal spray, is my chronic silver and when the silver evaporates, you know, it kind of dissipates and wears off where with the oils in it, it lines the lining of the nasal and sinus passages. But because of the hemp and CBD, it drastically reduces the inflammation very fast.
• 52:38
  And it'll help with ocular pressure behind the eyes, it'll help with the drainage canals and the gestation tubes down in the throat. I mean, you feel it get all over the place in your head, and it just reduces the inflammation and it just seems to be one of the best nasal sprays out there.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, it is. And we've got a bunch of different nasal sprays. We've got stuff from Mike Adams. We've got, you know, rosemary ones, but that stuff is it's a whole different it's a whole different level. Like I said, even before, if I have, say, I have a cough, you know, the itchy kind of cough that just kinda you you can't get rid of it, and they just keep coughing.
• 53:12
  And not necessarily, like, you're hacking up a lung from pneumonia, but just that itchy cough. I had that recently a couple weeks back, and I found that that was the only thing I I was using, you know, Manuka honey. I had, you know, drops and everything. But I I took a shot of that one night just thinking, oh, try it. I slept the whole night with no coughing, just from that nasal spray.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: It's really amazing how the body, certain things can work on it, you know, and it's kind of what you need when you need it. And that's what we, you know, we tell people, they ask why we have two nasal sprays. Well, the micronic silver nasal spray is your cold, your flu, your allergy, where the sonic mist is, you know, more severe other things, you know, going on in your body. There's not one perfect product out there that does everything. So we try to have the best of what we can do.
• 53:58
  And when we find that the micronic silver is limited, we look at other natural things that we can get it to coexist with, which is one of the benefits of having a stabilized silver. You know, you try using a colloidal silver with that they destroy each other. You know, they take each other apart, they just don't work well. So by stabilizing the micronic silver, we can add it to that, much like we did with the Sonic Mist nasal spray. We have a product called Arcanum twelve hundred, which our customers said is working better than morphine for pain management.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Really? That's the one
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: on the right, the Arcanum twelve hundred. If you go back up down, there we go.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, So
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: our customers have told us, I had a gentleman that was in a car accident, I'm sorry, motorcycle accident, had over fifty pins in his body, broke over fifty bones of the body, over thirty five pins in his body, was on morphine and Demerol for five years, but still had massive amount of pains. He took this, a dropper under the tongue, and a couple hours later he calls me, goes, This is the first time in five years I've had no pain. How can this work like this? When they say morphine and, you know, Demerol and stuff. Well, yeah, those are synthetics.
• 55:04
  Those aren't dealing with the course of why you're in pain. You're in pain because of inflammation. When you take the inflammation away, the pain goes away and you're just dealing with the injury itself and the healing process. So our customers just rave about this stuff. And it works on stress and anxiety because it does have a CBD in it from a delta eight, not a delta nine, it's non cyclogenic.
• 55:26
  It works in the body on the immune system. And I believe from any of the studies that I've done, this is the only one product in the world that works, that's taken orally, that works in the central immune system, which is your body, the cranial immune system in your brain, and the cannabinoid system for plants, works on the nicotine receptors, which are responsible for pain and inflammation in the body. You actually have Brian Artis on, so he's really big on the nicotine receptors.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah. One one one my of my fun guests is doctor Artis. So so, Jeff, so your website, mychronicsilver.com, we've got a promo code set up.
• 56:02
  Seth, you'll get a discount. I've I've heard nothing but positive stories from people who bought from you. I've I actually, my dad was visiting lately, and I I gave him some of your stuff. Like, here. He had, like, a sore on his stomach.
• 56:12
  I said, here. Put this on it. The nasal spray we use all the time. Even if if my if my little ones, you know, like a one year old and a four year old, if they're a little bit sneezy or mucousy, we'll give them drops of the of the silver, just the silver liquid. It's like, here, take this, put it in some water.
• 56:28
  They they don't know the difference of it. So, I mean, you know, your stuff actually works, and we we use it, and we have a lot of different options for what we use. And I almost always tend to reach for one of your bottles, so you're doing something right.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Apparently, you know, when you follow, you know, again, God gave us this, you know, I'm grateful to God for what we have. It's not me. I'm not that intelligent. But when you follow the things that that nature has put in front of you and that God's created, I don't think you can go wrong. Know, and that's where, you know, staying humble and keeping myself out of it, know, it'd be really easy to well, I did this and I did that.
• 57:04
  And it's like, no, I didn't graduate high school. You know, I've got dyslexia and ADD, I read upper left to bottom right. So I had a hard time with tests. And I believe that when you stay true to, you know, what your plan and your mission is, and that what God's put you on earth to do, you'll excel, You know, and it's just like, you know, finding the right partner. You know, God took your rib out and created woman.
• 57:27
  And I believe that when you find the right woman, he's given your rib back to you. That's And you become one.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: And I love ribs. So it's, know, win win.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: A good sweet honey barbecue sauce is great for
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: me. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Jeff, it's been great to have you on the show. I'll put all the all the the links and the promo code information in the description so people have that.
• 57:47
  But, again, just mychronicsilver.com and then promo code Seth. And thank you for doing what you're doing, and and thank you for joining me and just just chatting. I I always enjoy speaking with you.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. You know, we have a great time, and it always seems to fly fly by. It seems like it's only been five minutes. It's like, wow.
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  We gotta we gotta go already.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Well, if your people want to contact us and they want to find out more about the product, my phone number is right on there that goes right to me. I take the phone calls whenever I can. If they have any questions, we're always willing to help them. If our products don't do something, we'll try to lead them to something that does work, that's all natural. They can like us on Facebook and Twitter, we're always looking for that.
• 58:26
  And if anybody's used our product, we're always willing to hear testimonies and send us a testimony. We'll put it up on our page. It's getting the word out there about the products that work and just a promotion of good products with good people.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Great. Thank you for having me on.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Of course, Jeff. Thank you so much. I was a kid when I watched my dad lose almost everything in the .com market crash. His 4 zero one k wiped out. Company stock worth pennies.
• 58:59
  I remember the look on his face, and I promised myself that I'd never be trapped like that. And that's why I pulled my wealth out of their paper system. I don't care if the stock market hits new highs or the headlines say all is well because I know what's behind the curtain. I hold gold and silver not as a gamble, but as insurance because precious metals have never gone to zero, and they've never needed a bailout. And when the crash comes, and it will, it always does, those who hold them will walk through the storm while others are begging for shelter.
• 59:29
  So picture yourself years from now telling your kids how you saw the signs and acted versus explaining why you didn't. Visit goldwithseth.com, get your free guide, or just call Noble Gold directly at (877) 646-5347. Make the call before the market makes it for you. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (877) 646-5347.