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TeraFlex's Alpine RT Coilovers vs Everything Else: Here's Why Serious Off-Roaders Choose Them · Jeep Talk Show

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  Hi, dear boys and girls, it's time for
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  another Jeep Talk Show interview.
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  I'm just so proud of myself. I'm not
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  mumbling nearly as much.
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  I think it was my hospital stay and being
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  put out, you know, for the,
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  for the surgery, Dennis. I was just
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  telling Dennis about
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  my gallbladder surgery,
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  making him feel bad for me
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  before we start. So he'll be,
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  he'll be kind to me and understand.
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  I learned way more than I wanted to know.
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  Yeah, that's right. That's right. Anyway,
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  more medical medical issues
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  towards the end of the show.
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  Dennis is a terrible at tera flex has
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  been a disappointment on social media
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  for over 15 years. Now good for you.
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  Whatever you do, do it the best you can.
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  That really says a lot about Jeepers and
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  their willingness to plow through what
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  would nearly be impossible
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  for a regular person to endure.
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  Let alone understand being a part of the
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  industry whose goal is to bring fun.
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  I love this bring fun and excitement to
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  friends and family as they get out and
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  Jeeps is what keeps him going.
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  The guy just doesn't seem to know when to
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  quit. Well, as long as the company,
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  as long as the company doesn't ask you to
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  quit, you're, you're winning.
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  So I love that because
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  that's exactly right.
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  You're in an industry that is, I mean,
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  Jeeps can be maddening.
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  They can be very frustrating.
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  They can absolutely be a pain in the ass
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  when the day to 35 finally blows up.
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  But it's not anything,
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  it's really all about fun.
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  It's not like we're making a living doing
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  this stuff. I mean, you are,
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  and I am to a degree by what we choose to
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  do the show and you working at
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  Tarenflakes, but
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  ultimately you're, you're, it's,
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  it's almost like being a
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  being Santa all year long.
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  Yeah. No, I, that's totally
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  what keeps me going. You know,
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  we go to events and shows even, you know,
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  even when you're standing there at a
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  booth and people come by and you talk,
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  it's just fun to talk to
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  people and you know, they,
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  they tell you about their bills. They're
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  always excited about their Jeeps.
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  And it's just fun to hear,
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  you know, they're like, yeah,
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  I just picked up a DJ and
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  what I plan on doing is, uh,
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  putting a set of 44s on it. Um,
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  thinking about putting a, you know,
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  me in it and I'm going to run, blah,
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  blah, blah. You know,
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  so everybody has these lofty goals and
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  I'm just like, that's awesome.
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  Yeah. Come back next year and
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  tell me how far along you are.
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  When she gets your two
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  inch kid on it, let me know.
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  So, uh, and you got to
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  figure Dana 30 upfront, uh,
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  high opinion if you're lucky
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  and Dana 35 on the rear, uh,
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  44s you could take out a city block with
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  that configuration when the
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  35 goes. Um, so, oh, and I'll tell
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  everybody real quick, uh,
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  terra flex.com. Like you
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  don't already know, uh,
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  terra flex.com is where you go and have a
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  look at the goodies and, uh,
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  see some of the
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  shenanigans that Dennis is part of.
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  You guys got the YouTube videos up there
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  at the site or do you have to go to a
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  YouTube? Yeah, they're on
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  the, they're linked to the site.
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  They're also like, like a lot of the
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  products we just did a,
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  we got a new website that just kind of
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  went live here just a week or so ago.
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  And you know,
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  website launches usually go perfectly and
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  that's exactly where we're at.
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  So we have a few issues
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  we're dealing with on it.
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  So we have to
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  apologize for that, but it's,
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  it's got some, some,
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  some good points to it.
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  It's going to speed things up and to get
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  all the bugs worked out.
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  I think it'll be a good,
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  good improvement for us.
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  It's easy to find
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  people to do the website.
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  It's hard to find people to test it, uh,
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  cause the programmers
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  don't like testing anything.
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  They want to write it and
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  move on to something else.
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  Here's what you do. You do
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  yourself a black Friday sale,
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  and then you're running for a few days
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  and then you launch your website in the
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  way, you get a lot of people that come on
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  and, and check it out.
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  So we had a few issues there, but it all
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  worked out. It's good.
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  Well, something you mentioned,
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  bright black Friday and I think black
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  Friday did very well for the, uh,
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  for the country this
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  year, um, better like seven,
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  five to 7% more over a last year. Of
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  course, I think last year,
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  I don't think last year was, was
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  wonderful, but I could be wrong. So, uh,
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  but the problem is, is
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  that whenever you get more,
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  more traffic than what the server or
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  servers are designed to handle,
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  then you can have issues. Uh, I mean,
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  the software may be
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  working perfectly fine,
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  but the hardware isn't set up robust
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  enough to handle the traffic.
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  So if you were having issues because of
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  traffic, that's good. I mean,
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  you never want to
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  pistol the customer off,
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  but having too much for the hardware to
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  handle is kind of good news.
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  I just hope that people
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  coming on the site have,
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  have more patience than
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  I do. I'll get on a site.
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  I was trying to buy some, they had guitar
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  strings on sale, you know,
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  so I'm like, I'll just get some of these,
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  you know, after about 15 minutes,
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  I'm like, Amazon, I hate Amazon,
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  but I buy Amazon stuff all the time.
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  They do it right. I
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  mean, they've got the,
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  they got the delivery stuff.
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  You really don't have a problem with
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  buying the stuff that you want and boom,
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  it shows up at your door.
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  Uh, they're evil. I mean, they,
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  they have really done a lot of damage to
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  the retail industry, but I mean,
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  if they figured it out,
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  somebody else can figure it out too.
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  Yeah. Yeah. We'd hope. Yeah. I mean, and
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  they, and they haven't, I mean, well,
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  a lot of businesses and I'm
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  sure you guys had to change, uh,
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  like probably shipping because people
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  want that fast shipping.
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  So I'm sure Terraflix had to figure out a
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  way to get this, did the shipping,
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  get the parts, the people that they
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  wanted. Now you guys sell big,
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  heavy stuff so that I think people
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  understand it's going
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  to take a little while
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  longer. Yeah. You're not
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  going to get it, you know,
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  like it just amazed me. I'll order some
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  at eight o'clock Friday night and it's
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  there Saturday morning. You know, it's
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  like, yeah, that's Amazon. That's not us.
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  It takes just a little longer than that
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  to get them rolling.
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  But what they did teach us is that we got
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  to have free shipping. So,
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  cause you know, I do the same thing. I
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  guess what do you mean?
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  You're adding shipping.
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  No, we're all trained.
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  I hate shipping. See,
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  I will look someplace else if there, I
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  mean, uh, well, recently, you know,
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  about gatekeeper off-road and those, uh,
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  those pods that you could put on the, uh,
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  the axle, I mean, on the, the,
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  the hubs and uh, I've, I've wanted those
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  things cause I'm a light nut.
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  I just love lights.
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  People give me a hard time. Uh,
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  and then I thought this would
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  be really cool. And actually,
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  I think it was practical from the
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  standpoint of fog. Anyway, I, I, I,
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  I would been looking at the gatekeeper
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  off-road knuckle pod mounts for a while.
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  And they're a little over a hundred
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  bucks. And I saw that $20 shipping on it.
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  Hell no. I'm not going to pay
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  20 bucks for shipping. Yeah.
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  So they had a sale and it actually
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  brought it down and
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  paid for the shipping and
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  a lot of the broad actually brought the
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  price, the item down a little bit.
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  It's the psychology of the customer is
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  what it announced to
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  is.
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  All right. So, uh, this is, this is a
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  long grown out interview.
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  I mean that interview
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  intro. So I just want to mention,
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  if you guys are would like to see some,
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  some past interviews with, uh,
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  with Dennis listener here, our watch are
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  here, uh, November 8th, 2024.
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  So it's been a little over a
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  year since you were last on,
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  at least for what I
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  could research. Uh, I mean,
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  I just went to the website,
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  jeep talk show.com and did a search for a
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  Dennis terra flex. And, uh,
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  so, uh, November 8th, the interview with
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  a Dennis of terra flex February 9th,
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  2024, Dennis would terra flex.com.
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  That was actually back when we were
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  posting the episode
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  numbers. That was 981.
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  This is around 1398.
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  I believe is what this is going to be. So
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  we're getting really close to 1400.
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  Amazing. A lot of people try to do this.
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  A lot of people don't do this.
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  So good for you. That's good.
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  Well with the amount of advertisers we
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  have, it's hard to keep going.
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  We don't have any advertisers. Well, we
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  do have one real truck and they've been,
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  they've been great for several years, uh,
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  keeping us going every other month.
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  So it is nice. Yeah. And then on November
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  25th, 2022, uh, also, uh,
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  that the episode number was seven one
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  seven. Dennis, you've
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  been here quite a bit.
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  Again, go to terra flex.com.
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  Yeah, it's great. Uh, I mean,
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  I remember the first time you were on,
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  you were a little, uh, uh,
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  like he didn't know what
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  to expect. You know, what's,
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  what's this chuckle head going to do? I
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  mean, you know, and I,
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  and I think at least reading your, your
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  questions and your face, you were like,
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  that wasn't so bad. That was pretty good.
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  This guy can, it does. All right.
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  My wife, my wife still gets pissed off
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  cause I can talk to people about Jeeps
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  and ham radio and stuff. And I'm very
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  friendly and talkative, but in person,
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  I don't have anything to do
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  anything in common with you.
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  What am I going to talk to you about? And
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  it's just, she hates that. I can,
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  the neighbor, the neighbor actually said,
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  I saw Tony on YouTube. He's friendly.
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  It's hilarious. Yeah.
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  So I said, no, I'm not friendly, but I'm
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  doing the show. I like, it's,
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  it's all about commonality. You,
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  you have something that you can talk to
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  somebody about that's in the same wheel
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  house that you're in.
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  So, all right. So, uh,
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  we were talking before we started
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  recording and you have a couple of items,
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  uh, that you were telling me
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  about, uh, the air deflators.
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  I'd like to understand more
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  about the air deflators. I mean,
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  I think we all know about
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  airing down for going off road,
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  getting better traction.
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  But what does the air deflators do?
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  Cause I think you said you could just put
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  them on there and leave them on.
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  Yeah. So the deal was we did our Nomad
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  wheels and also our Olympus B locks.
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  You know, they have that air down build
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  into them. So you just pull up,
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  crack that valve and you preset it to
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  whatever you want it to drop down to when
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  it stops, close it
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  back up and away you go.
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  So everybody's out dragging out hoses and
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  doing all this stuff and we're just,
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  your air down in 30
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  seconds. You know, I'm like, okay,
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  nothing to find is right there. Yeah.
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  It's already on the
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  wheel. So people are like,
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  yeah, I love those, but I also love my
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  wheels. I want to keep my wheels.
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  So he said, okay, we can, we can do that.
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  So our engineers did a,
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  I got one sitting here
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  that did these little guys.
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  They're actually a just
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  a replacement valve stem.
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  So that's the, the
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  nut that goes, you know,
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  your wheel is going
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  to go in between there.
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  So that guy just clamps in there and it
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  just replaces your valve stem.
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  That's the little
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  bracket for your TPMS sensor.
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  So that's all there. It's got a big hole
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  through the bottom of it.
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  So they can really let some air out. That
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  thing can come out fast.
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  Then upon the top here, this is just a,
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  that's just a valve stem cap is all that
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  is. So air up time comes.
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  You just air it up with
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  that guy. But when you,
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  when you want to air it down,
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  all you do is just grabs
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  the outside of this thing.
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  You don't have to take the
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  cap on or off or anything.
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  It's just sitting there in your wheel.
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  That guy's sitting out there with his
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  attractive red knob and these actual,
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  put all those altitude
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  demorication lines on there.
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  But anyway, all you do
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  is crank that open. Boom.
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  There comes gushing out
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  from around the inside of that.
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  And it comes out of there hard and fast
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  and then it'll stop at whatever pressure
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  you set it at. So you set your pressure
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  at 15, it'll go to 15.
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  And it shuts off really quick. It's
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  impressive how quick
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  it just shuts right at
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  15. And then you just
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  put her back down tight.
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  If you don't tighten them back up, you're
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  fine. I won't let it out.
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  But trouble is, is every time
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  you hit a bump on the trail,
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  it increases the air
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  pressure in the tires. So it's,
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  it's going to burp out some air. I wonder
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  how I know this. Well,
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  I was going to ask, can you just leave
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  them open? And I'm glad you said that,
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  because that would be, I could see an
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  accidentally leaving them open.
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  Like what you're talking about.
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  I was mind down one wire.
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  It's always just one, you know,
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  I leave it open and so I have any idea
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  which one it is either.
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  It's just on the dash.
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  You're like, Oh crap,
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  you got eight pounds in
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  the left rear. Like, Oh, so,
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  but it stopped today. This low as it had
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  goes, so at least didn't flatten me out.
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  But anyway, yeah, close them back up when
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  you're done. But that's just a,
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  just a really cool little part to just
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  replace your valve stem.
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  So it does require breaking down the tire
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  cause you can just place the valve stem
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  and there it is. But
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  now from now on you got,
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  it's in your wheel. You pull
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  up to the, to the trailhead,
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  crack that open to stops where you set
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  it, tighten her back up and away you go.
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  That's so simple. Your spouse could do
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  it. I mean, I can imagine, well,
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  I don't know. I'm not in.
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  I did not say that.
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  Well, I mean,
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  that's one of the things that if you're
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  not interested in this stuff, but like,
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  well you tell me in
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  maybe, you know, in a snow ice,
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  snow environment, does airing down help?
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  Oh for sure. Big time.
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  Having that bigger footprint.
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  Yeah. I'm in Southeast
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  Texas. So I don't know.
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  So it just floats from, it's like sand,
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  you know, it really, really helps.
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  So if you're, if your spouse
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  has an easy way to, you know,
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  maybe she took the Jeep, the highly
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  modified Jeep, because it's,
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  it's dangerous outside. And now you have
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  a way that you just tell her,
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  just to turn that thing. And I mean, she
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  could leave it on, you know,
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  you have to turn it off and,
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  and it could actually help her get back
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  if you didn't think to do it before.
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  Now when she gets home, she's going to
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  say, why didn't you air me down before?
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  Why did I have to get outside and break a
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  nail? So, uh, yeah, anyway, that's,
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  that's, that's a
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  possibility. I think that's great.
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  Anytime we can make things simpler, uh,
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  for, uh, the spouse to,
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  and it could be either way. I mean,
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  there's women out there that are the
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  primary wheelers of the family.
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  Yeah. That's why I
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  say spouse. And I mean,
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  I want to say ladies because that's
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  generally the way it goes,
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  but it's not always the way it goes.
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  Wow. I just, I just showed my, my, uh,
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  yeah. When you just said spouse, I
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  immediately think, Oh, it's the lady.
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  Yeah. Spouse could be either
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  sex or the same sex Dennis.
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  We're in, this is 20, this is the 21st
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  century, Dennis. I'll dare you.
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  I'm having trouble being there. Yeah. I
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  know what you mean. All right.
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  So that's the, uh, the air deflators.
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  Those are really cool. And, uh, the,
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  you have nomad wheels, you say, that have
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  the, uh, the built-in and these will
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  work on those. Yeah.
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  So they're like, it's
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  a bigger knob on those,
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  but it's just has one that lets the air
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  out. And the other one needs to take the
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  cap off and let's put the air back in. So
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  we have those on the
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  nomad, the split spoke, then also on our
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  B lock wheels, just has,
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  any of our wheels have
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  those air downs build into them.
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  So air downtime and you're like, you're
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  back to the front of the line.
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  Yeah. Um, so you just need
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  to add LEDs and Bluetooth,
• 14:52
  and then you'll really have something
• 14:54
  there. The kids will love that. Um,
• 14:57
  so, uh, also to, you mentioned, uh, ball
• 14:59
  joints, uh, for the day in the sixties,
• 15:01
  and you've had the ball joints, uh, for,
• 15:04
  uh, like the 44s and, uh,
• 15:06
  the other axles prior to this, but now
• 15:07
  you have the, have them for the sixties.
• 15:10
  Yeah. The, um, the 60, that was one that,
• 15:13
  uh, you know, the sixties,
• 15:16
  well, you know, there's a lot of
• 15:17
  manufacturers that build
• 15:18
  the 60 axles, you know,
• 15:19
  there's a lot of good axles out there,
• 15:22
  but most of us are using the same ball
• 15:25
  joints. We just use the,
• 15:26
  the Spicer, it's the same ball joints.
• 15:28
  They use an F you know,
• 15:29
  I have two fifties and all that. It's
• 15:30
  just a Ford ball joint. Right.
• 15:32
  And most of the time it's all good,
• 15:35
  but I was out in my,
• 15:36
  uh, my LJ and you know,
• 15:40
  it's on 42s and you know, it's a six two
• 15:43
  in it and all that, blah, blah, blah.
• 15:44
  I'm going up this thing and,
• 15:46
  um, actually I was going down,
• 15:48
  but it just kind of bound
• 15:49
  the wheel and then it just,
• 15:51
  I popped a U joint in that left front
• 15:53
  tire. And when that U joint broke,
• 15:55
  it rotated around and it
• 15:57
  just caught on the, the,
• 16:00
  the knuckle and just
• 16:03
  pulled that thing up and just,
• 16:05
  well like a ball joint. Okay. So the ball
• 16:08
  joint bolts from there,
• 16:10
  but there's just a ball
• 16:12
  inside of here so it can rotate.
• 16:14
  So it just ripped
• 16:15
  that thing out and lower.
• 16:19
  And when that happens,
• 16:22
  it's catastrophic failures.
• 16:23
  Oh, that's when your tire falls off.
• 16:27
  I'm just sitting there going, you've got
• 16:28
  to be kidding me. So now I'm,
• 16:30
  I'm down in San Hello by, um,
• 16:33
  whatever St. George down
• 16:35
  there. And I'm thinking,
• 16:38
  do I call my buddy Matt over there at
• 16:39
  Matt's recovery to come and pull me out?
• 16:41
  I'm like, I am not going to be
• 16:43
  his number one highest rated.
• 16:46
  Yeah. That's the problem.
• 16:49
  And he'd show up at a
• 16:50
  Bronco or something.
• 16:53
  So I was close enough that I could get
• 16:56
  the trailer to it and it's,
• 16:57
  if reading took us for like four hours to
• 17:00
  pull that thing up on the trailer and
• 17:02
  then then your axles hanging, you know,
• 17:04
  and the bolt, you know, God,
• 17:05
  it was a nightmare. It's just, you don't
• 17:08
  want those breaking. So anyways,
• 17:09
  they did this time so that this, you see
• 17:12
  that little set screw in there,
• 17:14
  that set screw, uh, is
• 17:17
  just holding this, this ring.
• 17:19
  Where did I put it?
• 17:22
  And if you guys are
• 17:25
  listening to the show,
• 17:26
  you need to be on YouTube or rumble or
• 17:28
  Spotify so you can see what,
• 17:29
  so see what we're looking at here.
• 17:31
  Yeah. Okay. So anyway, the set
• 17:33
  screw, the ball joint itself,
• 17:36
  instead of just having a crimp lip up
• 17:38
  here that keeps the
• 17:39
  ball from pulling out,
• 17:40
  that was the problem I had. It just
• 17:42
  pulled past that crimp.
• 17:44
  So now we've threaded them in. We'll give
• 17:46
  you this little tool so that, uh,
• 17:48
  you can adjust the torque on them and
• 17:50
  just tighten that thing in.
• 17:51
  So now that's threaded. There is no way
• 17:54
  that thing's pulling out of there.
• 17:56
  So it just up my insurance. You know, I
• 17:59
  always think it's a personal thing.
• 18:00
  You know, we got this from me so that my
• 18:03
  ball joints don't pull apart.
• 18:04
  Hey, the best products,
• 18:05
  the best products are made for the people
• 18:07
  that are out there using it.
• 18:08
  So this is, this is good.
• 18:11
  Yeah. And if they, if
• 18:12
  you do wear, you know,
• 18:13
  you got big honking tires and you're
• 18:14
  beating the death up,
• 18:15
  you can just loosen a set screw, grab
• 18:18
  that little wrench we give you,
• 18:19
  and just tighten that up a little bit.
• 18:23
  Tighten that back up.
• 18:24
  You don't even have to take your tire
• 18:25
  off. Everybody's like, Oh,
• 18:26
  we have all joints that you can rebuild
• 18:29
  and you can do that.
• 18:30
  And who wants to rebuild all that?
• 18:31
  Just tighten them up a little bit and
• 18:33
  move on with your life.
• 18:36
  So down to the bottom.
• 18:38
  So I'm sure these things are heavy duty.
• 18:39
  They probably don't have a
• 18:40
  plastic ball in them or do they?
• 18:42
  No. Yeah. I didn't think so.
• 18:44
  That's why they're
• 18:45
  greaseable. Um, there's a,
• 18:47
  there's a tool, still a wear plate in
• 18:49
  there and a ball so that that,
• 18:50
  that pivots in there. So
• 18:52
  it's, they are kind of sensitive.
• 18:54
  If a guy gets on there and just animals
• 18:56
  out and cranks down that,
• 18:58
  that a preload or the, what
• 19:00
  keeps it together in there,
• 19:02
  you can actually bind them up so hard
• 19:04
  that you will lose return to center.
• 19:07
  You know, you don't like the wheel and
• 19:08
  you just keep going left and turn to the
• 19:10
  right. So you can really cinch them up.
• 19:12
  So I was just cinch them,
• 19:14
  back them up just to snatch, tighten up
• 19:16
  your little nut there.
• 19:17
  Where you go. So it's really easy to do.
• 19:19
  So it sounds like you would, uh, you
• 19:21
  would be able to notice maybe tighter,
• 19:23
  tighter steering and, uh, more, uh,
• 19:27
  better feel of the road and off-road. Uh,
• 19:31
  would this be something that you would
• 19:32
  put on a daily driver?
• 19:33
  Cause many of us have daily driver and
• 19:36
  off-road warrior weekend warrior.
• 19:38
  Just put a set in my, uh, my JL.
• 19:42
  So I have a JL and an LJ
• 19:44
  and dyslexia. Oh, I hate that.
• 19:47
  I screw that up all the time. So yeah,
• 19:50
  I was so my jail is my daily driver. It's
• 19:52
  on forties and sixties as well, but yeah,
• 19:54
  we totally just put these in it. So when
• 19:57
  I want a trail run or something,
• 19:59
  that's I drive it to the trail, I run it.
• 20:01
  I've just got that
• 20:02
  insurance back with me.
• 20:04
  But what's cool about these two is the
• 20:05
  same ballter because it does is just a,
• 20:07
  a Spicer replacement joint, uh, for
• 20:10
  trucks all over the place,
• 20:12
  you know, up and down the years can use
• 20:14
  them. Uh, a lot of the other axles,
• 20:17
  other 60 axles that are out there. You
• 20:18
  don't need to, um, yeah.
• 20:21
  I mean, I'm sure Spicer has lots to do,
• 20:23
  lots to do already. Uh,
• 20:25
  they're doing a bang
• 20:26
  up business in general,
• 20:27
  but I wonder why Spicer has never come
• 20:29
  out with anything like this.
• 20:31
  It seems like it would be,
• 20:33
  I think the differences is
• 20:34
  they are, there's as a, uh,
• 20:36
  just mount it and forget
• 20:37
  it. So that's the majority.
• 20:40
  Yeah. The majority of the
• 20:41
  people that's going to be fine.
• 20:42
  Cause not everybody's crazy and changing
• 20:44
  axles and everything else. So, uh,
• 20:46
  I mean, it's good. It leaves something
• 20:48
  there for the aftermarket. Um,
• 20:50
  so all these,
• 20:51
  all these same features are the same
• 20:54
  features that are in the 44 ball joints
• 20:56
  and the, and the 30 ball joints as well.
• 20:59
  All those same things cause the man,
• 21:02
  those JKs and jails,
• 21:03
  they'll do that same thing. They, you
• 21:05
  join breaks, it dismounts your knuckle,
• 21:07
  tire falls off.
• 21:10
  Yeah. But not a good situation. I mean,
• 21:12
  anytime you can't get back home, um,
• 21:14
  without a lot of help. Uh, so the, uh,
• 21:17
  and I would assume that you
• 21:18
  would install these ball joints.
• 21:20
  It's like you would any
• 21:20
  other ball joint, but,
• 21:22
  but the idea is is that you wouldn't have
• 21:24
  to replace them in the future.
• 21:26
  Right?
• 21:27
  Right. Yeah. No, I,
• 21:29
  I'll put those in and,
• 21:31
  and you want to stay on them. If they do
• 21:33
  start feeling loose,
• 21:34
  just cinch it a little.
• 21:35
  You could, I remember,
• 21:36
  I had a guy that had put a set in way
• 21:38
  back and he just ran them and ran them.
• 21:40
  And then he's like, man, these things are
• 21:41
  about ready to fall out,
• 21:42
  but I went to try to adjust them and I
• 21:44
  couldn't adjust it. Well,
• 21:45
  he ran it so long that, you know, he just
• 21:47
  made a groove or whatever ball and
• 21:49
  socket wasn't fitting tight anymore and
• 21:51
  wasn't fitting right. You know,
• 21:54
  you could just me collect it
• 21:56
  and wear them out for sure.
• 21:58
  But, uh, yeah,
• 22:00
  if you just stay on the greasing and you
• 22:02
  do need to grease them.
• 22:03
  So just grease them with oil changes and
• 22:05
  you'll be good to go.
• 22:06
  But I mean, the, like you said earlier,
• 22:08
  it's something you have to even take the
• 22:09
  tire off for. So I'm sure you can grease
• 22:12
  them and adjust them. Uh,
• 22:13
  and I would assume that you don't have to
• 22:15
  drive it when you adjust it.
• 22:16
  You just tied it up and back it off a
• 22:18
  little bit and you're done.
• 22:20
  You see right in there, there's a little,
• 22:22
  there's a lip seal in there,
• 22:23
  a double lip seal.
• 22:24
  So there's not even a boot to have to
• 22:27
  work out on and stuff.
• 22:28
  It's just a seal down there because we
• 22:30
  need to be able to move that around.
• 22:32
  So, so it's a little lip seal in there.
• 22:34
  No boot, just a push it in,
• 22:36
  push the middle, push the grease out. You
• 22:39
  can see that you've got a grease.
• 22:41
  So, so, so I would assume,
• 22:43
  I would assume that you got
• 22:44
  them for the thirties, the 44s,
• 22:48
  the sixties. Um,
• 22:50
  that pretty pretty much
• 22:52
  covers all the Jeep stuff.
• 22:55
  Bronco too though. We got them for the
• 22:57
  Bronco as well. Oh, that's right.
• 22:58
  I wanted to talk to you about that. We
• 23:00
  beat up on the Bronco the last time.
• 23:01
  I remember that that was fun. Uh,
• 23:03
  I was still surprised that you guys are
• 23:05
  selling Bronco parts and you were
• 23:06
  beaten up on Broncos.
• 23:07
  You were timid about it at the start
• 23:09
  before you guys really got involved.
• 23:13
  But I mean, there's nothing
• 23:14
  wrong with the Broncos to me,
• 23:15
  they're just not Jeeps
• 23:16
  and that's fine. But,
• 23:17
  but you guys have a fix for that
• 23:19
  independent front
• 23:20
  wheel steering that, uh,
• 23:21
  Bronco is well known for, uh, it's, it's
• 23:24
  tie rod, bullet replacements.
• 23:26
  I always say that the, the Broncos are
• 23:29
  not a Jeep. And they're like, well,
• 23:32
  they didn't want a Jeep.
• 23:33
  That's why they bought a Bronco.
• 23:35
  Like, okay, you're right.
• 23:37
  I wanted something that floated down the
• 23:39
  road and felt all comfy and was too
• 23:42
  wide for trails. Yeah, that's fine. You
• 23:44
  can, you can have what you want.
• 23:46
  But it does. They ride really nice and
• 23:48
  all that. You do a little work on them.
• 23:50
  And I'm, I'm surprised how capable they
• 23:52
  actually are. You know, you,
• 23:54
  you have to, it's just like a Jeep, you
• 23:56
  know, the stock one doesn't do that.
• 23:57
  Well, but we throw money at
• 23:58
  it and all of a sudden, okay,
• 23:59
  I know this is working pretty good.
• 24:01
  So you have that same
• 24:02
  thing with the Broncos.
• 24:03
  You can throw some parts at them and it's
• 24:05
  like, okay, this is,
• 24:06
  this is working pretty well. I mean, look
• 24:08
  at the guys that, well,
• 24:09
  they do more than throw parts at them
• 24:11
  when they run king of the hammers was,
• 24:12
  and they put trophy trucks under a Bronco
• 24:14
  body, but that's another,
• 24:15
  another story. Here's the steering wheel
• 24:18
  down move everything over here and
• 24:19
  everything back under the steering wheel.
• 24:21
  Yeah. So, uh, the, uh,
• 24:23
  you guys have tie rod replacements,
• 24:24
  which is the thing that breaks that
• 24:26
  causes the steering to go wonky one,
• 24:29
  one tire can't go
• 24:30
  where the other one goes.
• 24:32
  How easily those tie rod
• 24:34
  breaks was just jaw dropping to me.
• 24:37
  And we might've talked
• 24:38
  about this. I'm just,
• 24:39
  I was going up a hill in the Bronco.
• 24:40
  We're just doing a little photo shoot.
• 24:42
  I'm like, uh, it's kind of holding me up.
• 24:43
  I'm just going to back up a little bit
• 24:45
  and go over here as I rolled back, uh,
• 24:48
  I can, these guys go, Hey, you just broke
• 24:50
  a tire rod. I'm like,
• 24:51
  I just coasted backwards. Not, I did not.
• 24:54
  And they're like, it,
• 24:55
  I look out there yet
• 24:56
  swinging. I'm like, ah, crap. So it's,
• 24:59
  it's just especially backing and turning.
• 25:02
  So you'd be really hard on them, which is
• 25:03
  exactly what I was doing.
• 25:06
  Well say that that just makes me scared
• 25:08
  for the rest of the engineering.
• 25:09
  If something that critical is because
• 25:13
  steering is important.
• 25:14
  If you're driving a vehicle steering is
• 25:16
  important. Frontwards are backwards.
• 25:18
  So, and that's what makes me nervous
• 25:20
  about the overall
• 25:21
  engineering of this for,
• 25:22
  hopefully that's just the one thing
• 25:24
  seemed to be holding up pretty good.
• 25:26
  You know, the guys that are out there, I,
• 25:27
  I've wheeled with a few of them.
• 25:29
  And we've got a couple of them here that
• 25:31
  we, we wheel with and I'm like,
• 25:33
  all right, it's, but it's like driving a
• 25:35
  side by side. It's just different.
• 25:37
  You know, you'll, we're, we're driving
• 25:39
  over rocks and I'm all proud cause my,
• 25:41
  I just drove over that two foot boulder
• 25:43
  and my hood didn't even move. You know,
• 25:44
  I just flexed over it
• 25:45
  and then I was like, cool.
• 25:47
  The Bronco guys will go over it and
• 25:49
  they're just like hanging one tire.
• 25:51
  You know, the other one
• 25:51
  was just hanging in the air.
• 25:52
  And then they drop over the other side.
• 25:54
  It's like wheeling a renegade.
• 25:57
  But they still made the same obstacle,
• 25:59
  but it's just different, you know? So,
• 26:02
  yeah, I don't know. I kind of led. All
• 26:04
  right. All right. It works. You know,
• 26:06
  if you like them, Hey, get what you like.
• 26:08
  I'm with you. But anyway,
• 26:10
  so we did go ahead and ask me.
• 26:12
  I was just going to say, so you have the,
• 26:14
  the, the replacement tie rods.
• 26:15
  And I'd asked you earlier
• 26:17
  if, uh, if you could, uh,
• 26:18
  if they were easy to replace and you said
• 26:20
  absolutely. And, uh, uh,
• 26:22
  that's wonderful. I mean, if you can have
• 26:24
  a part that's going to not break, uh,
• 26:26
  and then you can break anything of
• 26:28
  course, but not break like the,
• 26:30
  the factory originals,
• 26:31
  uh, I think it's wonderful.
• 26:32
  And I don't like it personally because I
• 26:35
  can't tease the Bronco owners as much if
• 26:37
  they've, if they've
• 26:38
  already fixed the problem.
• 26:40
  Well, we made a, this, this same concept,
• 26:44
  the adjustability in the, in the tie rod
• 26:46
  itself, the, the joint on it.
• 26:48
  So it has that feature to it.
• 26:50
  And then it's obviously a much heavier
• 26:53
  rod so that when it
• 26:54
  goes into the steering
• 26:55
  rack, cause the tie rods actually just
• 26:57
  screw into the steering rack. Um,
• 27:00
  it's just, it's like, it's like a,
• 27:04
  whatever a Honda or
• 27:05
  something. That's how they work.
• 27:06
  Anybody that has the, this,
• 27:09
  this independent steering like that has
• 27:11
  to use a rack. So anyway,
• 27:13
  so that, uh, rack opinion, they call it.
• 27:15
  So anyway, that guy, uh,
• 27:17
  you take that out, put the whole new tire
• 27:19
  on, it's much bigger.
• 27:20
  But when you do that, um, now all of the,
• 27:24
  all of the weak link over here,
• 27:26
  the fuse is gone and you're transferring
• 27:29
  that load into the steering rack.
• 27:31
  Well, you don't want to trash your
• 27:32
  steering rack because
• 27:33
  that's really expensive
• 27:35
  and, uh, yeah, you're not
• 27:38
  going to fix that so fast.
• 27:39
  So anyway, we found that you're putting
• 27:41
  those in and where the, uh,
• 27:44
  where the rack opinion has that shaft
• 27:46
  that travels back and forth,
• 27:47
  it's kind of a worm gear set on them.
• 27:49
  They just roll back and forth, uh,
• 27:51
  as that would come out and your heavy tie
• 27:55
  rod is working on it.
• 27:56
  It would actually load so hard into that
• 28:00
  rack opinion that the shaft in the
• 28:01
  opinion would flex up and
• 28:03
  down. And when that's flexing,
• 28:04
  your gear engagement isn't right on it.
• 28:07
  So you can actually, you know,
• 28:09
  start doing damage to the teeth as well
• 28:11
  as, as bending the rack.
• 28:13
  And so they were some of them were
• 28:14
  damaging racks on it. So we did a,
• 28:18
  we did a little kit that you can, uh, we
• 28:22
  just add this bushing.
• 28:24
  So it goes right in the very end of the
• 28:26
  steering rack so that your,
• 28:28
  your steering shaft comes out of here and
• 28:30
  your tie rods tied to that.
• 28:31
  So it's traveling back and forth of this
• 28:34
  guy. So this bushing,
• 28:36
  all it does is make it so that that shaft
• 28:39
  inside your steering rack can't
• 28:41
  deflect. It just holds it into place.
• 28:44
  Just doesn't let them move them down.
• 28:46
  There's a, there's a couple of them on
• 28:48
  the market. One of them is a plastic one.
• 28:49
  Somebody else made a, I'm
• 28:51
  just a metal one somewhere,
• 28:52
  but they're just getting horrendous
• 28:54
  amounts of money for them.
• 28:55
  So this is a really inexpensive little
• 28:58
  part, but it's made out of, um,
• 29:00
  oil light bronze. So it's,
• 29:03
  I like to say it's oil and brag knitted
• 29:06
  bronze as we say in the industry.
• 29:08
  So that'll keep it from,
• 29:10
  uh, binding up and, you know,
• 29:12
  it gives a lubrication on it. So it's
• 29:14
  just a quick and easy little fix to a lot
• 29:18
  of guys have already bought tie rods, but
• 29:19
  when they bought their tie rod,
• 29:21
  they don't come with this. Our tie rods
• 29:23
  all come with this bushing.
• 29:24
  And if you need it, you use it. If you
• 29:26
  don't, I don't know,
• 29:27
  sell it to your buddy or whatever, but we
• 29:30
  just leave them with all of them.
• 29:31
  So I, when you said fused, I went, Oh, of
• 29:34
  course they may have,
• 29:35
  they may have done the tie rods that way
• 29:38
  for the other things that cause issues
• 29:40
  with, uh, cause it's a lot more
• 29:42
  expensive, uh, you know, for the,
• 29:44
  the components. So this is great. Now you
• 29:47
  can still have an issue with, uh,
• 29:49
  what'd you call it? The rack and pinion,
• 29:51
  uh, the steering box. Uh, you could,
• 29:53
  you could still have a problem with that.
• 29:54
  Or is that the thing that
• 29:55
  the worm gear was going into?
• 29:57
  That's the rack and pinion.
• 29:58
  So that's that piece that we
• 30:00
  just added that bushing to,
• 30:01
  we put it in the end of that rack and
• 30:03
  pinion to help that.
• 30:05
  So that should keep the heavier duty tie
• 30:08
  rod from damaging the,
• 30:10
  the steering mechanism.
• 30:11
  Okay, good. Well, good.
• 30:12
  I like that because
• 30:13
  you've solved the issue,
• 30:14
  but Ford would have had
• 30:16
  to pay for two, two parts,
• 30:20
  uh, probably more
• 30:21
  expensive for the tie rod.
• 30:22
  So this is probably
• 30:23
  why they didn't do it.
• 30:24
  It breaks. It's easy to
• 30:25
  replace process. Yeah.
• 30:27
  Why wouldn't they just do this? Well, it
• 30:29
  was more money, you know,
• 30:30
  and you do that over a million vehicles.
• 30:33
  And I'm sure the weight of the,
• 30:36
  the heavy duty tie rod
• 30:38
  costs you 0.0001 miles per
• 30:41
  gallon. So.
• 30:44
  They actually came out the newer like
• 30:46
  oath, uh, oh one, I guess,
• 30:48
  when they chose the one that
• 30:50
  came out, yeah. Oh one to, to
• 30:53
  2023 is pretty much the,
• 30:55
  the smaller that need this, this bushing
• 30:58
  put in them. And then after that,
• 31:00
  they started, uh, some of
• 31:02
  the higher end, they did this,
• 31:03
  they call it a ha
• 31:05
  steering H O S S ha steering and
• 31:08
  suspension. So it has better shocks and
• 31:11
  suspension and a heavier hole,
• 31:13
  rack and pinion and tire rods are all
• 31:15
  bigger enough. So they,
• 31:16
  they're offering it as a, as a beefed up
• 31:18
  unit. So a lot of the guys that are,
• 31:20
  you know, all locked up and all that have
• 31:23
  probably got the heavier steering
• 31:24
  system in them. So it helps.
• 31:26
  And I'll just say, I
• 31:27
  think Ford makes good stuff.
• 31:30
  They know how to engineer things.
• 31:31
  Sometimes mistakes are made or sometimes
• 31:34
  decisions. And I think this
• 31:36
  happens more often than not.
• 31:37
  Decisions are made in
• 31:38
  meetings that are dumb.
• 31:43
  And this is all, this is all companies
• 31:46
  when people get involved,
• 31:47
  the note don't know what the hell they're
• 31:48
  talking about from an engineering
• 31:49
  perspective. So I'm sure
• 31:51
  Ford engineers are great.
• 31:52
  And I'm sure somebody was raising holy
• 31:53
  hell about the tie rods.
• 31:56
  So don't get me wrong. I
• 31:58
  think, I mean, I love for,
• 31:59
  for like a tow rig or just a truck, I
• 32:01
  love Ford trucks used to anyway.
• 32:03
  I don't know so much about the ones these
• 32:05
  days, but, uh, you know,
• 32:06
  from the nineties and stuff. Yeah.
• 32:10
  All right. So that's pretty cool. Uh, I
• 32:13
  mean, I love the ball joints idea.
• 32:15
  If you have any, uh, if you've done any
• 32:17
  off-roading and especially if you have
• 32:19
  larger tires, you
• 32:21
  learn that eventually, uh,
• 32:22
  wheel bearings and ball joints are going
• 32:25
  to be an issue. So, uh, yeah,
• 32:27
  so it's, it's great. Oh, that's why I'm
• 32:30
  sorry. I'm gonna back up a little bit.
• 32:31
  I forgot about the ball joints. I, uh,
• 32:33
  I've had an issue with, um,
• 32:35
  uh, the ball joints on my XJ. I replaced
• 32:38
  them. And I think they had, um,
• 32:42
  some sort of knurling or something on the
• 32:44
  ball joint itself to fit tighter.
• 32:46
  And then whenever those went bad,
• 32:48
  I think they were
• 32:49
  synergies that just pissed me off.
• 32:51
  They didn't last nearly as long for that.
• 32:53
  I thought they should.
• 32:55
  And I went to put spices back in it,
• 32:57
  this good old spices and it just slid in.
• 32:59
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:03
  A lot of them were only
• 33:04
  offering neural ball joints. So we,
• 33:08
  we offered a neural and a non neural.
• 33:10
  You only want to use a neural ball joint
• 33:13
  as a last resort because once you do
• 33:15
  that knurling,
• 33:16
  then that's all you can use and you're
• 33:18
  going to have to start going bigger and
• 33:19
  bigger because that, that inner C it just
• 33:22
  takes out the press fit on it.
• 33:24
  So, um, yeah, unless it's loose,
• 33:29
  you don't use a neural, but once you
• 33:32
  have, there you are.
• 33:33
  So the ball joints
• 33:34
  that you guys are selling,
• 33:35
  you have knurled or do you
• 33:37
  have sizes, different sizes?
• 33:39
  Both options. You can do
• 33:40
  a neural or a non neural.
• 33:42
  So we always just always just go with the
• 33:44
  non neural unless someone has an issue
• 33:46
  with my ball joints or just falling in
• 33:48
  and out of the seat. They're not holding.
• 33:49
  Okay. Use these.
• 33:50
  Yeah. Um, and I, I mean, I'm sure that's
• 33:53
  not the only press fit out there,
• 33:55
  but I always hated the idea of a press
• 33:57
  fit because if you're keeping something
• 33:59
  for a long time and
• 34:01
  you're putting a lot of, um,
• 34:02
  let's say effort on it with bigger tires
• 34:04
  and so on and so forth,
• 34:06
  especially if you use wheel spacers and
• 34:07
  now you're putting that, uh,
• 34:10
  the extra torque on them. It's just, I
• 34:12
  just said, to me, is this a bad idea?
• 34:14
  I don't know how you'd put up some sort
• 34:16
  of nut or something, but
• 34:18
  on the, on the sixties,
• 34:20
  we just got a ring into it and we have a
• 34:22
  big old snap ring that goes on.
• 34:24
  I like that.
• 34:25
  So that just, just, just another level of
• 34:28
  insurance, keep them in there.
• 34:30
  So.
• 34:31
  All right. And, uh,
• 34:32
  I think we talked last time about the
• 34:35
  coilovers and, uh, how,
• 34:36
  how the callovers do. And I think I
• 34:38
  remember you saying
• 34:39
  that the thing that was,
• 34:40
  I mean, they're wonderful, but the really
• 34:42
  cool thing was they're not noisy.
• 34:44
  You don't have to deal with a bunch of
• 34:46
  clack and, and, and, and,
• 34:47
  and weird stuff. And I believe they were
• 34:49
  easily easy to adjust.
• 34:52
  Yeah. Yeah. There's, uh,
• 34:54
  that that was always
• 34:55
  my beef with coilovers.
• 34:57
  You're just getting the rig and that's
• 34:58
  bong. You hear the spring blowing.
• 35:00
  Cause as they, as the springs compress,
• 35:03
  they have to rotate cause
• 35:04
  there's two different rates,
• 35:05
  springs that you're dealing with.
• 35:06
  So one will twist at a
• 35:08
  different rate than the other.
• 35:09
  So that's why we have to have a, uh,
• 35:12
  that slider has actually
• 35:13
  set of bearings between it.
• 35:15
  So they just quietly roll on roller
• 35:16
  bearings, no noise. And then the slider,
• 35:19
  we don't have threads up and down the
• 35:21
  body of the coilover cause
• 35:24
  none of that cause you're going up and
• 35:26
  slacking, racking it down a comb.
• 35:28
  You know, you can just hear
• 35:28
  those things rally up and down.
• 35:30
  So we just use a hard anodized smooth
• 35:33
  body on it and a bearing
• 35:35
  surface inside of that,
• 35:37
  that slider that's, uh,
• 35:38
  that the springs are sliding up and down
• 35:41
  on. So, um, dead quiet there.
• 35:44
  So then you say, okay, so how do you
• 35:45
  adjust the, the lift height on it?
• 35:47
  How do you compress those springs to
• 35:49
  change your lift height?
• 35:50
  And that's just a matter of,
• 35:52
  we have a tool that just has two holders,
• 35:54
  a holder at the bottom of the
• 35:55
  shock and one up on the coil.
• 35:57
  And then you just sitting it on the
• 35:58
  ground. And then as you lift it up,
• 36:01
  that will hold your spring from, from
• 36:03
  releasing. So as you lift it up,
• 36:05
  it actually pulls that top down away.
• 36:07
  And there's just a bunch of snap ring
• 36:09
  grooves and you just pull out that snap
• 36:10
  ring, move it down to the
• 36:11
  next level, let her back up.
• 36:13
  You just adjusted
• 36:14
  your, your, uh, your coil,
• 36:17
  the coil spring compression
• 36:20
  switch gives you the height.
• 36:21
  So you just need to Jack, uh, whatnot
• 36:23
  appropriate. Well, I guess if you,
• 36:24
  and you have to lift up the axle, uh, to
• 36:27
  do the adjustment, right?
• 36:28
  Well, you're going to let the
• 36:29
  axle hang. So on the ground,
• 36:31
  the springs are
• 36:31
  compressed. So we slide that on,
• 36:33
  that holds the springs from coming apart.
• 36:36
  So we don't have to have a spring
• 36:37
  compressor and we, the Jeep just did it.
• 36:39
  Now we just jack it on the frame and it
• 36:41
  lets that axle hang.
• 36:43
  And then it just slides down
• 36:44
  the body to move your coil out.
• 36:46
  There you go. So it's
• 36:48
  really an easy process.
• 36:49
  So anything you could use to lift the
• 36:51
  body would do would be in that.
• 36:53
  So this really sounds like a driveway
• 36:55
  type thing that you
• 36:56
  drive up on a rock for
• 36:57
  crying out loud, let the
• 36:58
  other side hang down a bit.
• 37:00
  And once it exposed, you just switch it
• 37:01
  and then come back up.
• 37:03
  So for folks, I don't know
• 37:06
  a lot about coilovers, uh,
• 37:07
  other than they're very
• 37:08
  expensive. Um, so, uh, can you,
• 37:11
  do you have to make a body modifications?
• 37:14
  Do you have to have a, like a high hoop
• 37:16
  before the coilover or is this something
• 37:18
  you can put on a stock stock Jeep?
• 37:21
  Yeah, it's a, we did, um, the JK version
• 37:25
  and the JLJT version.
• 37:26
  So on the JLJT it's just a bolt up kit.
• 37:29
  So you're going to cut a couple of
• 37:31
  brackets off cause you
• 37:32
  can do long arms on it.
• 37:33
  So there's the, uh, the bolt up long arm
• 37:36
  section. And even the, uh,
• 37:38
  the top of the spring mount is just a
• 37:40
  bolded piece that goes on and it fits
• 37:43
  inside of your body. So
• 37:45
  doesn't get into anything.
• 37:47
  No cutting or anything like that. The
• 37:48
  hoop starts to get through the hood.
• 37:51
  It looks cool.
• 37:53
  It's hard to do that nowadays cause all
• 37:56
  the engine components are clear out over
• 37:57
  the fender wells. You know, you, you
• 37:59
  start going through the hood and you're,
• 38:01
  you just got through drilling through
• 38:02
  your intake. So anyway, so yeah,
• 38:06
  just bolts up, it's in
• 38:07
  there clean. We did them.
• 38:09
  Our engineers did all this testing.
• 38:10
  We put a 40 inch tire on
• 38:12
  there and they're like,
• 38:13
  we want to have as big a tire as we can
• 38:15
  do with as little as lift as possible.
• 38:17
  So they did 13 inch
• 38:19
  coil overs, which is all,
• 38:21
  and we're using all 13 inches of the
• 38:23
  travel. So you could have a, uh,
• 38:25
  all I got 16 inch coil overs. Oh, okay.
• 38:28
  How much of the traveler are you using?
• 38:30
  Uh, I dunno. Well, I can only use 10 of
• 38:32
  it. Yeah, because it's so long that,
• 38:34
  you know, you can't even
• 38:35
  let it compress all the way.
• 38:37
  So you lose all your up travel without
• 38:39
  going through the hood. You know,
• 38:41
  there's no way to use that
• 38:42
  much. So 13 inch was the max.
• 38:44
  So we could get having a 40
• 38:46
  inch tire flex up and down,
• 38:48
  clearing all the fenders, clearing all
• 38:50
  the components, not hitting the body,
• 38:52
  all that kind of stuff. Front and rear on
• 38:54
  it. Um, it's just, uh,
• 38:57
  it's just dialed in. So you
• 38:59
  can put it on any of the, um,
• 39:01
  little lift things like Corey, he runs
• 39:03
  that, uh, trailer thing that he does.
• 39:05
  So you can pull them on there and our,
• 39:08
  uh, that kid on there,
• 39:09
  it always just kills the scores. That
• 39:11
  thing is just bombs.
• 39:13
  So it's a nothing rubs. So it doesn't hit
• 39:17
  the spender that this doesn't make
• 39:19
  contact. You know, you
• 39:20
  look all the way around,
• 39:21
  your bump stops are all working.
• 39:22
  Everything's dialed.
• 39:23
  So when you buy the kid,
• 39:24
  it's all dialed and your shocks are
• 39:27
  completely dialed in for the vehicle.
• 39:29
  So you're not just
• 39:30
  buying a coil over that.
• 39:32
  That guy's running on his
• 39:33
  ultra four car over there.
• 39:35
  And now I'm going to buy it
• 39:36
  and put it on my cheap, you know,
• 39:38
  and then you have to go have them tuned
• 39:39
  because they're so crazy, you know,
• 39:41
  stiff and you know, they're up there,
• 39:43
  open through the whoops.
• 39:43
  You got to have something
• 39:44
  you can deal with on the road,
• 39:47
  but then we still have
• 39:48
  our adjustability on them.
• 39:49
  So you can still soft,
• 39:50
  medium and firm the things, um,
• 39:53
  and dial them in for what you're going to
• 39:54
  do driving around the road. So yeah,
• 39:56
  I kept all the
• 39:57
  drivability on the street. In fact,
• 39:59
  I think wind wise and all that and sway
• 40:02
  and all that with the coil coilovers on
• 40:04
  there, it was like, I drove it without
• 40:07
  sway bars for quite a
• 40:08
  while. And I'm like,
• 40:08
  God, this is nice. You
• 40:10
  don't really need them.
• 40:10
  And then we threw the sway
• 40:11
  bars on it and like, okay,
• 40:13
  sway bars are still nice. I was afraid it
• 40:15
  was going to give me so much head toss
• 40:16
  going through, you know, neighborhood
• 40:18
  curbing cutters and that kind of thing.
• 40:20
  But no, I just phone phone goes through
• 40:23
  them. You're like, Oh, okay.
• 40:25
  You know what, you know what I love about
• 40:27
  driving a Jeep and even just the one
• 40:29
  that's almost stock, uh, speed bumps. Uh,
• 40:32
  fuck you. Speed bump.
• 40:37
  You're not the boss of me. So I could,
• 40:39
  I could well imagine having the coilovers
• 40:42
  that you would be really good.
• 40:45
  I know little Johnny's Jason's ball. You
• 40:47
  don't want to roll over him,
• 40:48
  but still it just pisses me off.
• 40:52
  True though.
• 40:54
  Bum, bum, or just all full size pickups
• 40:58
  going up there, you know,
• 40:59
  20, 30 miles an hour.
• 41:01
  It takes office. It's
• 41:06
  like, give me a break, man.
• 41:07
  I can do that in a full size pickup easy,
• 41:09
  but you know, people,
• 41:10
  people don't know. So,
• 41:11
  uh, the tell people, uh,
• 41:13
  for the don't know cause we have a lot of
• 41:14
  newbies. What are the coal overs for?
• 41:17
  Why do you put call overs on a Jeep?
• 41:20
  Number one, they look
• 41:21
  really cool. Oh, absolutely.
• 41:24
  What the hell's that thing?
• 41:26
  But the, I think that
• 41:30
  the big reason is a normal,
• 41:33
  normal shock suspensions
• 41:35
  can give you a, you know,
• 41:35
  nine somewhere in there
• 41:37
  inches of travel on the shock.
• 41:39
  And these things are
• 41:40
  13 right out of the box.
• 41:42
  But the other thing it
• 41:43
  does is it lets you have,
• 41:44
  everybody talks about
• 41:45
  dual rate Springs. Well,
• 41:46
  do all right Springs are kind of a, you
• 41:48
  know, that's a whole nother story,
• 41:49
  but these guys are true dual rate because
• 41:52
  you run on that soft one until it goes
• 41:55
  to full coil bind, full compression. Then
• 41:57
  it transitions to that heavier spring.
• 42:00
  So you, you have 100%, you
• 42:02
  know, you're using the soft one.
• 42:04
  And once you go to coil
• 42:05
  bind, it pushes it past to stop.
• 42:07
  And now you're running
• 42:08
  off the bottom. So you can,
• 42:10
  you can definitely get a
• 42:12
  better ride out of it, you know,
• 42:14
  cause you can have that softer coil and
• 42:16
  still have your, your,
• 42:18
  your heavier coil to stop that bottoming
• 42:20
  out or loaded or all those kinds of
• 42:22
  things. So, um, so there's
• 42:25
  just stability of it, the, uh,
• 42:27
  to spring tuning, the ability to adjust
• 42:30
  your lift height real easy.
• 42:32
  Um, what else, uh, mounting, you know,
• 42:37
  a lot of times we use coilovers cause you
• 42:39
  do just stretched or like on my LJ,
• 42:41
  I stretched the suspension for so far.
• 42:44
  There weren't any spring buckets anymore.
• 42:46
  So it's just way easier to
• 42:47
  put a coil over on there.
• 42:49
  That's the whole upper half here, your,
• 42:52
  uh, suspension on the things.
• 42:53
  So you don't have to, you just go from
• 42:55
  the axle to the body and that's it.
• 42:56
  There's your suspension and shock. So it
• 42:59
  makes it a lot easier for mounting.
• 43:01
  Yeah, that's right.
• 43:02
  You don't have to put a suspension lift
• 43:04
  when you're using coilovers.
• 43:05
  Is that right? Yeah.
• 43:07
  The coilovers actually do the, the, the
• 43:09
  lifting of the body.
• 43:10
  Yeah. Nurdle brackets. We have our, our,
• 43:13
  our speed bumps, you know,
• 43:14
  we talked about those that was like an
• 43:16
  air bump, but it's not an air bump.
• 43:18
  It's made in microcellular foam inside of
• 43:20
  it. So it's just a bump stop.
• 43:22
  We actually, uh,
• 43:23
  increase the pressure in
• 43:24
  those with a preload in it.
• 43:26
  And those are part of the
• 43:27
  bracket when it goes on.
• 43:28
  So you have the bump stops built into it.
• 43:32
  The coilovers are all there.
• 43:33
  The brackets are there.
• 43:35
  Um, yeah, it's a nice setup.
• 43:37
  And also too, and I think
• 43:39
  you alluded to this earlier,
• 43:40
  especially with a testing platform where
• 43:42
  you, you twist the, the suspension,
• 43:45
  uh, the, the call overs give you more
• 43:47
  flex so that you, if you're off-road,
• 43:49
  especially like in the rocks, it
• 43:51
  couldn't, it may be right.
• 43:52
  Cause you could be in the mud and going
• 43:54
  through some deep rights that some, uh,
• 43:56
  some asshole and 54 is in
• 43:58
  full size, blah, blah, blah.
• 43:59
  Doug, Doug, some nice
• 44:00
  trenches in there. So, uh,
• 44:03
  but that allows you to get more flex so
• 44:05
  that you can continue on and, uh,
• 44:08
  have the actual droop down on one side
• 44:10
  further than what it normally would.
• 44:12
  And, uh, potentially higher,
• 44:13
  depending on bump stop and fenders and
• 44:15
  things are getting away. So flex.
• 44:18
  Both tires on the ground. That's the
• 44:19
  whole idea with it. Flex thing.
• 44:21
  Non-broccoish.
• 44:22
  On the ground is just traction. Yeah.
• 44:26
  Yeah. It's hard. It's hard to move if
• 44:29
  you, if you don't
• 44:29
  have traction. All right.
• 44:31
  So we've, we've found that
• 44:32
  out. All right. So, uh, oh,
• 44:36
  and the other thing I was
• 44:36
  going to ask you is, uh,
• 44:37
  so I think most people don't do this to
• 44:40
  daily drivers, but you could do this.
• 44:42
  You could put cold overs on your daily
• 44:43
  driver and it sounds
• 44:44
  like they wouldn't be,
• 44:45
  you wouldn't be punished. You wouldn't be
• 44:47
  punished for it for comfort and so on.
• 44:49
  So forth.
• 44:50
  Cut coilovers on the 392 guys are putting
• 44:54
  them on right and left.
• 44:55
  We're selling bunches of them to the 392
• 44:57
  guys cause they like number one,
• 44:59
  they like our long arm
• 45:00
  suspension because it's,
• 45:02
  it's set up a little
• 45:03
  different than most of them.
• 45:04
  It's set up so that you don't get that
• 45:07
  twist and that body lift on a heart
• 45:09
  acceleration. It just launches flat.
• 45:12
  That would be very helpful for a 392.
• 45:16
  Yeah.
• 45:16
  Have you guys had any issues?
• 45:18
  Have you guys had any issues with the 392
• 45:20
  and the torque that it puts out on,
• 45:22
  on how you build the components?
• 45:24
  No, cause we actually, uh, you know,
• 45:27
  America's most wanted, right?
• 45:28
  Those guys do all the
• 45:29
  motor swaps and stuff. Um,
• 45:32
  we actually did a set of, um,
• 45:35
  of a Falcon coil over Falcon,
• 45:37
  just tuned shocks
• 45:38
  even for his builds. Um,
• 45:41
  where the idea was is to get more rebound
• 45:45
  in it so that it doesn't let the thing
• 45:47
  lift as hard cause he's putting
• 45:49
  ridiculous motors in
• 45:50
  a room. God bless him.
• 45:52
  In the world of EV
• 45:54
  mandates, God bless him.
• 45:59
  Yeah, it's a, it's pretty cool. He's
• 46:00
  moved into that new building.
• 46:01
  It's impressive.
• 46:03
  I think I may comment on one of their
• 46:05
  posts that they need to have a paper
• 46:07
  airplane contest and therefore they start
• 46:09
  filling it up with Jeeps because
• 46:10
  that'd be a great place
• 46:11
  to launch paper airplanes.
• 46:13
  It was very cool.
• 46:15
  Yeah. Um, all right. So, uh,
• 46:18
  what's going on with you? Uh,
• 46:20
  you've been with TerraFlex a
• 46:21
  really long time. Uh, is it,
• 46:24
  are you getting close to retirement?
• 46:26
  All around 22 years, I
• 46:28
  guess, uh, coming up in, well now,
• 46:31
  December, duh. Yeah. So I just did that.
• 46:34
  I just took my 22nd year here, which is
• 46:36
  pretty cool. You know,
• 46:37
  I'm just excited about that. And that's
• 46:39
  what I always get around here.
• 46:40
  So what are you going to do? And I'm
• 46:41
  like, you know what,
• 46:44
  if I wasn't doing this,
• 46:45
  I'd be I'd be going to events and hanging
• 46:48
  with the same people, same, same thing.
• 46:50
  I'd be going to wheeling with them.
• 46:52
  Cause I still like, you've been doing
• 46:54
  this so long that on your days off,
• 46:56
  you go wheeling in your, in your LJ. I'm
• 46:59
  like, yeah, you know,
• 47:01
  what can I say? I don't
• 47:02
  know. I guess I'm pretty shallow.
• 47:04
  No, no. This is all the way
• 47:06
  I look at this is so I can,
• 47:07
  I can retire and do
• 47:09
  pay for all this myself,
• 47:10
  or I can just keep doing what I'm doing
• 47:12
  and have the same fun and have somebody
• 47:14
  else pay for it.
• 47:16
  I was avoiding saying that, but yes.
• 47:21
  So there's really no reason. So I think
• 47:23
  it's great. I mean, uh,
• 47:24
  you obviously know your stuff. How
• 47:27
  involved are you in the,
• 47:28
  the creation of a product that would,
• 47:30
  I'm sure that you're involved from the
• 47:33
  bitching about it standpoint.
• 47:36
  Yeah.
• 47:38
  This is doing this fix it. Damn it.
• 47:44
  Yeah, there's probably some
• 47:45
  of that for sure. But yeah, no,
• 47:48
  we're it's,
• 47:50
  it's because there's a lot of enthusiasts
• 47:52
  working here. We have a,
• 47:54
  we have meetings, you know,
• 47:55
  product development meetings and we'll
• 47:57
  all sit down there and talk about it.
• 47:58
  You know, like we're going, I knew we
• 48:00
  have your axle coming your way. That's,
• 48:02
  you know, we need to do this and that,
• 48:03
  but need to make sure the hubs are in
• 48:06
  closer. We want to, you know,
• 48:07
  things that in the past we'd
• 48:09
  like to have improved, do that.
• 48:10
  We want to do a low pinion so they can
• 48:12
  handle the horsepower because everybody's
• 48:13
  getting more and more horsepower.
• 48:15
  So just a little things like
• 48:16
  that are all fed in. And then,
• 48:18
  um, you know, even the hike, these ball
• 48:22
  joints, you know, they were,
• 48:23
  they were working on that.
• 48:24
  But when I bring my LJ in,
• 48:26
  that's all we all fell off and
• 48:28
  everything. They're all
• 48:29
  like engineers are all
• 48:30
  coming around and going, Oh my gosh, you
• 48:32
  know, yeah, this is
• 48:33
  what you're concerned.
• 48:33
  People.
• 48:34
  Did you start, did you start with, I'm
• 48:36
  having a flop, a floppy issue,
• 48:38
  that grabs their attention and you go,
• 48:40
  no, I'm talking about the Jeep.
• 48:42
  I would hate to have
• 48:48
  the whole thing come off.
• 48:52
  That's all right. Everybody,
• 48:53
  everybody on the audience that watches us
• 48:55
  all the time, he got,
• 48:56
  they got it
• 48:56
  immediately. Um, so, uh, that,
• 49:00
  that's a horrendous thing to
• 49:01
  go through. And, uh, I mean,
• 49:04
  that would be horrible because you're
• 49:05
  looking at it going, I'm not recovering
• 49:07
  from this. I got to call
• 49:09
  people. I need help. Uh, so, yeah,
• 49:12
  yeah, it's easily fixable, but you know,
• 49:15
  it's right there on the trail. No,
• 49:17
  I mean, there's no trail fix for that.
• 49:19
  Well, hi, how are you going to get it on
• 49:20
  the trailer? You know,
• 49:22
  cause your axle is just full on drooped
• 49:24
  out. There's no tire on it anymore.
• 49:26
  So that actual is just hanging down
• 49:28
  there. So we backed it on, you know,
• 49:30
  like drove as far as I could and just
• 49:32
  kind of dragging the axle.
• 49:34
  But once you get to the trailer,
• 49:36
  you got to get lift that axle up to get
• 49:38
  it on the trailer. Well, I had a,
• 49:41
  uh, you know, a two by
• 49:43
  six, I guess, or four by four,
• 49:45
  I guess it was about a
• 49:46
  six inch four by four.
• 49:47
  So I just jabbed in against the trailer
• 49:49
  and then put the axle against it and
• 49:51
  then drug it. And that kind of lifted it
• 49:53
  up and then deposited it on my trailer.
• 49:55
  But the ball from the ball joint was
• 49:57
  still there. So that of course dropped
• 49:59
  through my trailer and took
• 50:00
  out the board and slammed down.
• 50:03
  So you got to have more damage as long as
• 50:04
  you're doing it, you know,
• 50:06
  were you able to save that axle or did
• 50:07
  you have to replace the whole axle?
• 50:09
  No, it was just ball joints. Yeah. So
• 50:14
  yeah, I remember when it broke,
• 50:15
  I just like just was given a little bump
• 50:17
  to just go over this thing.
• 50:21
  Oh shoot. You know,
• 50:22
  and it only rotated far enough for the
• 50:24
  Calc brake caliper to come around the
• 50:26
  other side and even break a brake line.
• 50:28
  Nice. Yeah. So I mean, that's the way you
• 50:31
  learn things. And of course,
• 50:32
  that experience leads to new products.
• 50:34
  You're actually an
• 50:36
  advantage of that because you can,
• 50:37
  you have people that you can talk to and
• 50:39
  say, this is the issue.
• 50:40
  And then you guys came up with those ball
• 50:42
  joints. Well, that's really cool.
• 50:43
  Well, I hope you don't retire because we
• 50:44
  needed to get at least 30 more
• 50:46
  interviews with you. Not that,
• 50:48
  not that you couldn't
• 50:49
  retire and still be interviewed,
• 50:51
  but this is this better. Oh,
• 50:54
  I was going to ask you real quick here
• 50:55
  before we wrap up SEMA.
• 50:56
  How was SEMA this year? Did it, did you,
• 50:59
  did you see a lot of people out there?
• 51:01
  Was it, was it very GP?
• 51:05
  Yeah, there's a, they had their fair
• 51:08
  share of them and the,
• 51:08
  they did the off road halls
• 51:10
  clear the other end of the,
• 51:12
  of the whole thing, the West Hall. Now I
• 51:15
  used to be in the South Hall.
• 51:16
  So they moved it all the way over. I got
• 51:18
  to go over there. Our,
• 51:19
  we were in the Hoonigan booth, which was
• 51:21
  that Bernyard thing and all that,
• 51:24
  they had out there. So they just had a
• 51:25
  bunch of cars and then they were just
• 51:27
  melting tires off twice a day. Well,
• 51:30
  fortunately we were right next to it.
• 51:32
  We were able to experience the
• 51:33
  thrill of tires melting down.
• 51:37
  You're blowing your nose and you're one
• 51:38
  of all that black stuff is coming out of
• 51:40
  your nose. Oh yeah.
• 51:42
  I don't know how people sitting in the
• 51:44
  stands to smoke from the tires and then
• 51:48
  you see the smoke change color and you're
• 51:50
  like, Oh, that guy caught fire. Oh,
• 51:52
  then you know, they've
• 51:52
  picked a new Pope. Yeah.
• 51:55
  Let's see what you're saying.
• 51:58
  So, but yeah, it's a, you know, see,
• 52:01
  after you've been there a few times, you
• 52:03
  know, maybe 15, you're like, okay,
• 52:06
  it's probably not quite the, uh,
• 52:08
  everybody should see it once though. I,
• 52:10
  I'm a guy that walked through it. It's
• 52:13
  just, you know, you just,
• 52:14
  I'm tired of walking
• 52:15
  past McLaren's, you know,
• 52:17
  is there some other car we can walk? You
• 52:18
  know, it's just like, you just,
• 52:20
  it's like Disney world or something. You
• 52:22
  just get numbed out after a while.
• 52:23
  They need to have one
• 52:24
  that's just Jeeps. I mean,
• 52:26
  it doesn't have to be
• 52:27
  SEMA the regular SEMA thing,
• 52:29
  but they need to have a SEMA or a Jeep
• 52:31
  SEMA where it's just all Jeeps.
• 52:35
  I, you know, I mean, of course
• 52:37
  I'm a Jeep person. I mean, I,
• 52:38
  fast cars are nice, but
• 52:41
  there's so many that that place is so big
• 52:45
  that there's just no way they could,
• 52:47
  you know, I bet you, I bet you they could
• 52:50
  fill it up with Jeeps.
• 52:51
  All right. Well, how was
• 52:53
  Friday when the, the, the,
• 52:54
  and I haven't been since they started
• 52:55
  letting the public in on Friday. Where's,
• 52:57
  was there shenanigans for people that
• 52:59
  were let in on Fridays?
• 53:01
  No, it was, it wasn't
• 53:02
  that bad really. They,
• 53:04
  they were charging them a hundred bucks
• 53:07
  or something to come in.
• 53:08
  So it wasn't like you were getting a
• 53:09
  bunch of raft. Yeah. So the trailer,
• 53:12
  the trailer part people weren't in there
• 53:15
  is what you're saying.
• 53:17
  No, they wouldn't let us in.
• 53:19
  Got a $150,000 Jeep
• 53:22
  and then a mobile home.
• 53:23
  It's kind of like the
• 53:23
  bass boat joke, you know,
• 53:25
  or $50,000 bass boat, the bass boat next
• 53:28
  to the trailer. All right.
• 53:30
  So you know how the kids love the social
• 53:31
  media. They like seeing the pictures.
• 53:33
  I'm one of those people.
• 53:34
  I like seeing pictures.
• 53:35
  I don't need to read a
• 53:35
  bunch of stuff. How can they,
• 53:37
  how can they find you and TerraFlex on,
• 53:40
  on the social media?
• 53:41
  Yeah. Well, I'm just Dennis Wood on
• 53:43
  there, but TerraFlex suspensions,
• 53:46
  all one word for Facebook and TerraFlex
• 53:49
  suspension two word on
• 53:52
  Instagram. YouTube is TerraFlex
• 53:55
  suspensions with the S on that one.
• 53:58
  So I think we're going to, we did the
• 54:01
  tick tock thing for awhile.
• 54:02
  I think we might start it back up for
• 54:05
  just a little throw a
• 54:06
  little shorts at it.
• 54:07
  You know, tick ducks. Well,
• 54:09
  that's tick doc. You know, so.
• 54:11
  Yeah. I always call, I
• 54:12
  always call those the tick tock.
• 54:14
  That makes me sound old. So, oh,
• 54:17
  and you guys have a giveaway going on
• 54:19
  right now, right? For, for Christmas?
• 54:21
  Yeah. Yeah. So coming up for Christmas.
• 54:23
  So my dates, right? So we got,
• 54:26
  we always do our
• 54:26
  Christmas giveaway, you know,
• 54:28
  and we always do a
• 54:28
  little Christmas videos.
• 54:29
  So we get another one of
• 54:30
  those we're putting together,
• 54:31
  but it looks like probably about the 17th
• 54:34
  we'll do our first announcement and
• 54:37
  for a giveaway, then
• 54:39
  we'll go to the 19th,
• 54:40
  give that one away and
• 54:41
  then announce a new one.
• 54:42
  So we're going to do
• 54:42
  three days of giveaways.
• 54:43
  The prizes will get bigger as they go
• 54:46
  until the last day on the 22nd,
• 54:49
  we'll announce it so that they don't have
• 54:52
  to wait clear till Christmas.
• 54:53
  You know, they can get there what they
• 54:55
  won before. So anyways, yeah,
• 54:57
  three days of prizes
• 54:58
  going out. And so yeah,
• 55:01
  that'll be a, we have some,
• 55:03
  I was just looking over what we wanted to
• 55:06
  give away this year.
• 55:07
  And I think we might do a few of the days
• 55:09
  with, with more prizes for,
• 55:10
  so maybe three people can
• 55:12
  win on that day, you know,
• 55:13
  and then have a big one for the last guy.
• 55:16
  But so yeah, we'll have some,
• 55:18
  we always have good prizes.
• 55:19
  So we're going to do that.
• 55:20
  Well, you guys have great products and I
• 55:22
  think everybody knows about TerraFlex.
• 55:24
  Maybe you haven't bought
• 55:25
  anything from TerraFlex.
• 55:27
  I think a good thing to do would be to
• 55:28
  have a really close look at those ball
• 55:31
  joints. Ball joints can be very
• 55:33
  irritating. It's a
• 55:34
  steering, uh, a bunch of,
• 55:36
  it makes the Jeep do a
• 55:36
  bunch of weird things.
• 55:37
  If you don't have a new good ball joints
• 55:40
  and it sounds like, uh,
• 55:42
  this is going to be a
• 55:43
  good way to go. Dennis,
• 55:45
  thank you so much for being with us.
• 55:46
  So we really appreciate it and appreciate
• 55:48
  you coming back time and time again.
• 55:50
  And I'm sure we'll talk to
• 55:51
  you guys. It's fun. Sure.
• 55:53
  We'll be talking to you
• 55:55
  again. We got to make it, uh,
• 55:56
  sooner than a year though. I didn't
• 55:57
  realize it had been a
• 55:58
  year. Um, so anyway,
• 56:00
  have a great day and thank you again.
• 56:03
  Thank you.
• 56:04
  Okay. You're my
• 56:06
  friend. You're my new friend.
• 56:07
  [inaudible]