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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 01-08-26 Hour 2 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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  Speaker 5: start the show, but we've got a great guest, Randy Sutton,
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  Speaker 5: who is with us, and he is a retired Las
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  Speaker 5: Vegas Metro police lieutenant, 24 years, one of the most
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  Speaker 5: decorated in the history of Las Vegas. At the time
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  Speaker 5: he retired, he was the most decorated police officer in
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  Speaker 5: the history of Las Vegas. He's the founder of The
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  Speaker 5: Wounded Blue. TheWoundedBlue.org, TheWoundedBlue.org, a great charitable organization. Last time
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  Speaker 5: you were on, just like two weeks ago, I told
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  Speaker 5: you to remind you, remind me to send you a check,
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  Speaker 5: and you never reminded me. That just came to me
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  Speaker 5: right now. I was sending a check to The Wounded
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  Speaker 5: Blue if you reminded me, but you never reminded me.
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  Speaker 5: So remind me tomorrow in the morning. In the mornings,
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  Speaker 5: I can write checks, and I'm going to write you
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  Speaker 5: a check, Randy.
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  Speaker 3: So remind me, okay?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to text you at 5 a.m.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: That's good. That's fine. That's good.
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  Speaker 4: I'm up at 6.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be the first thing I see.
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  Speaker 1: So that's good.
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  Speaker 5: So tell me about your thoughts when you see the
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  Speaker 5: law enforcement officer, in this case ICE, but it could
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  Speaker 5: have been a police officer like you were. uh in
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  Speaker 5: minnesota what he was up against what he was facing
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  Speaker 5: it's very by the way it's a very controversial tough
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  Speaker 5: issue everyone on the right for the most part i
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  Speaker 5: think thinks like i do and i'm guessing like you
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  Speaker 5: do that he was justified and that woman was using
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  Speaker 5: her car as a dangerous weapon and he felt like
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  Speaker 5: his life and his other agents lives could be under
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  Speaker 5: danger and he had to take his gun out and
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  Speaker 5: shoot her everyone i know on the left because i've
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  Speaker 5: spoken to five or six friends or associates in the
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  Speaker 5: last day, including children of friends of mine, who called
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  Speaker 5: me to say, everybody who's under the age of 20 disagrees.
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  Speaker 1: With you, Wayne.
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  Speaker 3: We all saw that agent murder that woman in cold blood.
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  Speaker 5: And these are kind of reasonable kids.
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of shocked.
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  Speaker 5: So let's hear it from a law enforcement perspective, what
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  Speaker 5: you think you saw and how you feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: Sure thing.
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  Speaker 6: So I watched all the videos that were out there.
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  Speaker 1: There's a ton of them.
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  Speaker 6: Most of the ones that are being put out. show
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  Speaker 6: a simple perspective from the rear of the vehicle. From
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  Speaker 6: the rear of the vehicle, you see ICE officer walking
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  Speaker 6: up to her, trying to get her to come out
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  Speaker 6: of the vehicle. They're about to arrest her because of
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  Speaker 6: her conduct prior to this. She has apparently been stalking them.
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  Speaker 6: She's been putting her vehicle in the way of their vehicles.
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  Speaker 7: Horrible.
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  Speaker 6: And at this particular time, She had her vehicle against
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  Speaker 6: the roadway so they couldn't proceed. And I want to
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  Speaker 6: tell you just a little bit about this particular tactic.
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  Speaker 6: When you don't allow the ICE vehicles to proceed in
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  Speaker 6: their normal course of duties and they are blocked from behind,
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  Speaker 6: That is an ambush situation. Don't think that those officers
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  Speaker 6: don't understand that they're in a very, very vulnerable position.
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  Speaker 6: So they made a determination they were going to arrest
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  Speaker 6: her for this conduct. So as you can see, the
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  Speaker 6: officers approach her.
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  Speaker 1: They tell her to get out of the vehicle.
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  Speaker 3: She refuses.
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  Speaker 6: And not only does she refuse, instead of getting out
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  Speaker 6: of the vehicle like they told her to, she decides
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  Speaker 6: to put it in reverse and then accelerate forward. Now,
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  Speaker 6: If you look at the video that is also accessible,
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  Speaker 6: where there is a ICE officer in front of her
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  Speaker 6: vehicle who is clearly in danger. In fact, she actually
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  Speaker 6: hits him with the vehicle. That's when he opens fire
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  Speaker 6: on her and kills her. So the reality is this,
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  Speaker 6: that the use of force, the use of deadly force
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  Speaker 6: by any law enforcement officer, whether it's federal, state, or local,
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  Speaker 6: that is— it goes under a legal precedent going about the
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  Speaker 6: reasonable officer role. Would a reasonable officer— from the circumstances
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  Speaker 6: believe that they were in imminent danger of death or
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  Speaker 6: serious bodily injury. It all comes down to the legal
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  Speaker 6: aspect of the perception of the officer. So we're having
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  Speaker 6: the idiotic.
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  Speaker 1: Governor of Minnesota.
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  Speaker 6: We have Mayor Fry, who.
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  Speaker 1: Is an absolute ideologue.
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  Speaker 6: You actually have the attorney general making pronouncements that this
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  Speaker 6: is a murder.
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  Speaker 1: It is absolutely reckless. It's disgusting.
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  Speaker 6: And the reality is that an investigation has to be conducted,
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  Speaker 6: but from what I saw, that officer was perfectly justified
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  Speaker 6: in the use of deadly force.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree. Sorry, Randy, I have a little
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  Speaker 5: coughing fit here. So, I just got something caught in
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  Speaker 5: my throat. I was taking some vitamins before, and I
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  Speaker 5: think one of them got caught.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, and.
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  Speaker 5: Your opinion is far more important than mine, as a
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  Speaker 5: law enforcement officer of 24 years and a highly decorated one.
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  Speaker 5: But I've been arguing for two days now that it
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  Speaker 5: was totally justified.
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  Speaker 3: I did just read a column by Stephen A.
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  Speaker 1: Smith.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw it, but Stephen A.
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  Speaker 5: Smith, the ESPN commentator, is very opinionated, sometimes right, sometimes wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of what I call a moderate, reasonable liberal commentator.
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  Speaker 5: So we don't agree on a lot, but we sometimes
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  Speaker 5: have common ground on some issues.
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  Speaker 3: And he's not too bad on other issues. He's not
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  Speaker 3: extreme liberal. He's not wacko. He's not mentally ill, mentally deranged.
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  Speaker 3: He's not a communist.
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  Speaker 5: He's kind of what used to be a moderate Democrat.
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  Speaker 5: Stephen Smith said the following, and I couldn't argue too
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  Speaker 5: bad with the following. He said the shooting's completely justified.
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  Speaker 5: I've watched it from every angle. And the cop had
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  Speaker 5: to do what a cop had to do. You can
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  Speaker 5: never argue with that. So he can never be charged
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  Speaker 5: and he should never be charged. But I don't know
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  Speaker 5: why he couldn't have shot the tires out and not
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  Speaker 5: thought first to kill the woman.
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  Speaker 3: Why not first shoot the tires out?
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  Speaker 5: And that's kind of a reasonable answer. I mean, she
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  Speaker 5: was not speeding at officer. She was moving very slowly.
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  Speaker 5: Could have shot the tires out or the engine out.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that is an option, is it not? I
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  Speaker 5: would agree that's an option. I would never charge him.
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  Speaker 1: It is not an option.
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  Speaker 6: It is absolutely ridiculous to even put that out there
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  Speaker 6: as an option.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Tell me why.
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  Speaker 6: Because, first of all, the momentum of that vehicle as
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  Speaker 6: it approaches that officer to even be able to.
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  Speaker 1: Shoot out.
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  Speaker 6: The tire of a moving vehicle is basically impossible to shoot.
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  Speaker 3: Out the engine of it so it stops right there.
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  Speaker 6: That's only the stuff of movies.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: It's dumb to even say that it's something that should
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  Speaker 6: be considered shows an absolute lack of reality.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Randy, remember, I'm on your side.
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  Speaker 5: I've supported the officer for two days. But all my
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  Speaker 5: point is that was not a speeding car. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: you don't aim for the tires of a speeding car.
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  Speaker 5: You wouldn't hit it.
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  Speaker 3: But it was going it was going like two miles
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  Speaker 3: an hour. They were standing right next to it.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. That officer had a split second to
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  Speaker 6: make a decision.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I get that.
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  Speaker 6: It would be ineffective even if he could hit the tar.
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  Speaker 6: Remember where he was. He's right in front of the thing.
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  Speaker 6: You think he even had access to shoot out the tire?
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  Speaker 1: It is it is ludicrous. And it's an impossibility. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see his background?
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure that entered into the situation and his perception,
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  Speaker 5: of course, is his background is he was involved in
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  Speaker 5: a very similar situation just a few months ago where
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  Speaker 5: he broke the back window and his arm got caught
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  Speaker 5: inside the vehicle and the guy started speeding away and
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  Speaker 5: was swerving from side to side to throw him on
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  Speaker 5: the ground. And he badly hurt his arm and his
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  Speaker 5: hand and had to have a many stitches and was
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  Speaker 5: in the hospital. So I'm sure that also fed into
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  Speaker 5: his perception that his and his fellow agents' lives were
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  Speaker 5: in danger when you've already been through something very similar
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  Speaker 5: with a moving car, correct?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: You can imagine that having been hospitalized from another vehicular
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  Speaker 6: type of situation like this, he, of course, is going
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  Speaker 6: to be more sensitive to it.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality is this.
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  Speaker 6: That you have literally— fractions of seconds to make a
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  Speaker 6: life and death decision. And it all comes down to
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  Speaker 6: this reasonableness. If you're standing in front of a vehicle,
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  Speaker 6: and by the way, could he have been in a
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  Speaker 6: different position? We don't know, because the chaos of what
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  Speaker 6: was taking place there, and that chaos is caused by
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  Speaker 6: people like the driver of this vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: She made the decision.
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  Speaker 6: She's the one who purposely put herself in that position
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  Speaker 6: to begin with. And then instead of complying, which she
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  Speaker 6: could have done very easily, she made the decision to
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  Speaker 6: move forward and step on the gas with a vehicle
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  Speaker 6: that's a 2,000-pound missile that's killed many cops in the past.
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  Speaker 5: Right, so there's been many instances like this where cops
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  Speaker 5: are trying to stop someone in a car. They wouldn't stop,
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't get out.
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  Speaker 3: They started moving. The cop maybe didn't pull his gun,
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  Speaker 3: and the cop gets run over and killed. That has
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  Speaker 3: happened before, correct?
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  Speaker 1: Many times.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, just two days ago, Wayne, I was with
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  Speaker 6: a police officer who lost the mobility in her leg
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  Speaker 6: because she was run over by a vehicle in a
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  Speaker 6: similar set of circumstances.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Randy, we're going out. I'm getting a five count.
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  Speaker 3: We're going out.
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  Speaker 1: Stay there.
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  Speaker 3: Don't go away. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 8: We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to grab Randy. Let's put him up on
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  Speaker 3: the screen.
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  Speaker 1: Randy, you there? I'm here.
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  Speaker 5: We live in very tough times. I see this news
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  Speaker 5: just coming in now. Two wounded in shooting in Portland,
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  Speaker 5: Oregon involving Border Patrol agents. So we've now got another
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  Speaker 5: two shootings of civilians involving Border Patrol agents. And I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure when we hear the details, the liberal left will
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  Speaker 5: say we're a bunch of murderers and the Border Patrol
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  Speaker 5: is a bunch of murderers and they've got itchy trigger fingers.
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  Speaker 5: You know, on the right, we'll all say these people
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  Speaker 5: are all crazy nut job liberals who are looking for
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  Speaker 5: it because they're standing in front of law enforcement, harassing
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  Speaker 5: them and spitting on them and throwing things at them
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  Speaker 5: and blocking them with their cars and calling them names
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  Speaker 5: and burning American flags. I just you know, my problem is, Randy,
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  Speaker 5: we have such a divided country. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 5: ever going to come together. We can't fight common ground
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  Speaker 5: with these people.
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  Speaker 1: They're crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's very clear from the reaction to this shooting
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  Speaker 6: in Minneapolis that common sense and reality don't even play
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  Speaker 6: a role in the thinking of those on the left.
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  Speaker 1: Watching the attorney general, the attorney general.
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  Speaker 6: Of the state of Minnesota, who knows absolutely nothing about
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  Speaker 6: what really took place, Make declarations about the charging the
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  Speaker 6: ICE officer with state crimes.
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  Speaker 1: It's absurd.
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  Speaker 6: And at the same time, it's frightening because you realize
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  Speaker 6: that there isn't any perception of reality here, that this
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  Speaker 6: is driven by hatred. This is driven by ideology, not
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  Speaker 6: driven by facts.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and it's driven by naivete because, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the average person, let alone the average liberal, Randy... has
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  Speaker 5: never been in a life and death situation. They don't
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  Speaker 5: know what cops go through. That's why I'm always erring
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  Speaker 5: on the side of cops. Even when I sometimes look
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  Speaker 5: at something and I disagree with them and say, gee,
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  Speaker 5: I wish they hadn't done that. I still never want
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  Speaker 5: to see them charged because I always put myself in
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  Speaker 5: their place and I go, I wasn't a cop. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't put my life on the line. They're putting their
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  Speaker 5: life on the line. They have a split second decision.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe I would have made the same decision if I
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  Speaker 5: was them. So I always give them the benefit of
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  Speaker 5: the doubt. You guys are heroes, and it's a very
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  Speaker 5: tough split-second decision to make where either you go home
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  Speaker 5: or you never see your family again versus taking away
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  Speaker 5: their life. It's a tough decision. I'm glad I don't
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  Speaker 5: have to make it. I give you guys kudos for
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  Speaker 5: making those decisions.
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  Speaker 6: And, you know, let's not— I' m not going to beat around
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: the bush here, Wayne. There are times when there is misconduct.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: There are times when law enforcement officers act outside of
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: the rule of law. And there are times when— when
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: they need to be held accountable for their actions. There
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: is so much scrutiny when it comes down to use
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: of force, especially the use of deadly force in law enforcement.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: There are many, many levels of scrutiny from the policy side,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: of the departments.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: That's one of the things that everyone looks at. But also,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: at all of.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: The legal levels, from the criminal side to the civil side,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: there is so much scrutiny. And law enforcement officers need
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: to be held accountable for their decisions. But they also
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: need to be understood that many of the decisions that
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: are made within literally a split second are all based
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: on the perception of danger that the officer sees and feels.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And that's the legal issues that we need to look at.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Let me give you the last two, in the last
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: minute or two, two examples that I want to get
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: your feedback of things I said on this show. I
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: wrote a commentary and opened the show today, and I
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: said basically what this woman in Minneapolis was is a
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: human shield like the people of Gaza. Hamas puts people
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: in harm's way on purpose. so that when they get killed,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: they can blame the Jews and go Jewish genocide. They're
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: the ones who put them in play to be killed.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: It isn't the Jews who killed them.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It's Hamas.
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  Speaker 3: They were human shields.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: This woman, in my opinion, is like a human shield
• 19:40
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  Speaker 3: She was a pawn. Your thought to that?
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Well, you're probably right as far as her reasoning for
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: being there.
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  Speaker 1: But she this was driven by her.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: She could have simply stopped her vehicle and gotten out
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  Speaker 6: when she was told to. She made the decision that
• 20:11
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• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Right. There you go.
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  Speaker 3: When a cop says get out of the vehicle. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: told my kids this yesterday. I told my son when
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  Speaker 3: with your hands up. That's it.
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  Speaker 5: That's the only answer or you are putting your life
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• 20:31
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of miracles, right?
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: This is an economic miracle, what Trump is pulling off.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if everybody else could do it, they do it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Biden couldn't do it. Obama couldn't do it. Even George
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Bush couldn't do it. Trump comes in and every day
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: you've got, you know, an economy that's 1% or 2%
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: GDP and Trump turns it into 4.3 in the third quarter.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Now the Atlanta Fed is predicting the fourth quarter is
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: gonna be 5.4%. We're hitting for Reagan, Boom territory. That's
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: an amazing development that just happened this afternoon. Steve Moore
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: is with us, longtime economic advisor to President Trump, founder
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Steve Moore, welcome to the show. How are you?
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: Hi, Wayne. I'm feeling pretty good.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I was wondering if you were when you mentioned that
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: blockbuster number, you were talking about that incredible.
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: Five, almost five and a half percent growth.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And, you know, this is a big black eye for
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the economics profession, because for the last year, they predicted
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: we'd have a growth of less than 2 percent, 1.9 percent.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: In the last three quarters, the economy has grown well
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: over four and now 5 percent. These are numbers that
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: are off the chart. We haven't seen them in years
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and years. And shame on the on the all the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: academic economists, the.
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: Blue chips who got it all wrong.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: By the way, they got it all wrong, Wayne, as
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you may recall, in the first term when Trump was
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: in office as well.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: And they got it all wrong about tariffs because they
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: all said tariffs would ruin the economy and tariffs would
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: increase inflation. And obviously the economy is booming and inflation
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: is lower than anyone expected.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: So tariffs haven't done.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Either of the things that genius expert economists said it
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: would do.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you know, the most important economist in the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: world right now is the guy sitting in the Oval Office.
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: And he knows how an economy works. It makes a
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: big difference.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And, Wayne, you know.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Donald Trump very well. I've gotten to know him well.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And, you know, you.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Mentioned that Art Laffer and I wrote a book at
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the year called The Trump Economic Miracle.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: But this really is a miracle to take over the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: wreckage of what Biden did to our economy with 21
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: percent rise in prices over four years, the worst inflation,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: worst interest rates we had since virtually Jimmy Carter was
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: in office, and.
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: A border out of control. And Trump just one by
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: one by one has solved these problems. And it's an
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: amazing thing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I've got to tell you also, we're going to get
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a jobs report tomorrow. I think it'll be a good report.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: The inflation numbers weigh down if we stay on that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Of course, that we've seen on the last couple of months,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: we're going to have inflation less than two percent.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: What's not to like about this picture?
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you one thing. There's two things I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: worried about.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Number one, I heard today from a friend who I
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: trust that the Supreme Court is going to rule tomorrow
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: on tariffs and everyone is expecting the ruling to be negative.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: They're going to kill the tariffs. That's insane.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: The president of the United States runs the economy, not
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: a bunch of judges in black robes that have never
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: created a job and never run a business and never
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: started a business.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I can't believe we're winning the tariff war all over
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: We're putting China out of business and the Supreme Court's
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: going to upend Trump's biggest economic, you know, angle.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: It just makes no sense.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: But I know he's ready for that ruling and him
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: and Besant have ideas. Do you have any idea what
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: they're going to do next if that happens?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, the court will rule against
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: some of the tariffs, but I think they'll let some
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of the other tariffs stand. And look, I'm not a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: tariff guy, as you know, Wayne, but I've got to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: say that Trump has used these threats of tariffs against Canada,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: against Europe, against Korea, against Mexico, against.
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: The Chinese, most importantly. And they've come hat in hand
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: and made better deals for America.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about potentially trillions of dollars of
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: new investment in this country. that's coming in specifically so
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: that these countries can get a deal.
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: With Trump on the tariffs. So he's a dealmaker. He
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: knows the art of the deal. I think the Supreme
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: Court will require some of the tariffs to be repaid,
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: but I don't think they're going to repeal all of them.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: But it's so awkward. I mean, we've taken in billions
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: and billions of dollars. We've reduced the trade deficit by half.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: That was announced today, too. And suddenly you're going to
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: have to give money back to countries that you've won
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: the battle with?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's going to be, I don't
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: think much of this money is going to go back
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: to the countries. I think it'll go back to the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: retailers and some of the factories in the U.S.
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: That paid the tax bill.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And we'll see how that all turns out. But this
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: is just one element of Trump's I mean, remember, we
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: passed the big, beautiful bill in July.
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: You and I were part of that team that helped
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: push that thing over the goal line. And I want
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: to salute you for that way. And you did amazing
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: work on that. And by the way, as I seem
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: to recall, weren't you the one who first recommended Donald Trump?
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: No tough, no tax on tips. I think you were
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: the one.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Well, no, no, you're slightly you're right, but you're slightly off.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: I didn't get involved in no tax on tips. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: got involved in no tax on overtime and no tax
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: on Social Security.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Those are mine.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: No tax on overtime and no tax on Social Security
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: were both mine. I've been campaigning for no tax on
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Social Security.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: For a long time. I also wanted to ask you
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: about another thing. Trump just announced on the issue of affordability.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: That he is going to ask the government to buy
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: $ 200 billion worth of bonds, which should automatically lower interest rates.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: If that's the case, that sounds great to me, but
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: I'm not an economist, so I'm asking you, why the
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: hell didn't any other president ever think of doing something
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: like that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I will see how this works out. I just
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: learned about that an hour ago. I haven't had a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: chance to really review the proposal. But look, interest rates
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: are going to come down regardless. Inflation is coming down.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: We're going to see a big new supply of housing.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a big housing boom going.
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: On in this country.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And so I think you're going to see more affordable
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: housing in the years to come.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: What do you think of the idea of Trump saying
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: yesterday he's going to ban large Wall Street companies like
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Blockbuster from buying, you know, hundreds of thousands or millions
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: of single family houses around the country?
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: Not a big fan of that, actually.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Because if you look at the statistics, the big institutional
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: investors are only buying up maybe 2% of the housing,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: 2% or 3%. And look, a lot of those properties
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: were rental properties. And we want rental units as well.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of banning that. I'm a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: free market guy. I think if, you know, if these
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: investors want to buy the properties, they should be able to.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: It should be a free country.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: But again, like Trump is so shrewd about this in
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: terms of the way he is perception out of me
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: on track in a way that I never thought was possible.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Perception, affordability. That's what everybody wants, affordability.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: I think what he did yesterday, whether you like it
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: or not, whether it'll work or not, and again, I
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: trust you, Steve, so maybe it won't work, but it
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: sounds great to the young people of America. A lot
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: of my fans who actually aren't young, a lot of
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: my older fans kept saying to me, Trump has got
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: to stop all these big Wall Street companies from.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Buying up all the houses. So it sounds good.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: It's what the people want. Sometimes you got to go
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: with what the people want. But here's my only knock
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: on Trump. And it's not really a knock, but I
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: want to get your take on this. I think I'm
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: right on this one. I got to tell you, Trump
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: keeps saying out loud he's beaten inflation. He's beaten the
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: increase in inflation, the rate of increase, but he's done
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: nothing about the underlying high prices. And the average person
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: doesn't understand the difference. He needs to just explain the difference.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: He's not responsible for.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: The underlying high prices. Biden is. And that's not Trump's fault.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Biden exploded the prices.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Trump can't work a miracle and make every price just
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: go down overnight. Tomatoes went from $ 2 to $ 5 and
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make them go back to $ 2. That's
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: not Trump's job. He got the rate of inflation increased down.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And by the way, we just did
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: an analysis at Unleashed Prosperity. The people should get our
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Unleashed Prosperity hotline.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: It's free. Just go to unleashedprosperity.com.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: But we just did an analysis showing that 87.5% of
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the inflation that's happened over the last six years happened.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: Under Biden, not Trump.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: So if you're angry about prices, as you should be,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: if you're angry about the price of a steak or
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the price of uh you know some of these other
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: things that have been going up in price housing you
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: have to blame biden for this but i'm here to
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: tell you by the way we do not want deflation
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: deflation can be even worse than inflation right we want
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: stable prices and trump is on the way to give
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: us that and we're going to get a new fed
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: chairman and by the way i'd like to see you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: be that new fed chairman wayne but we're going to
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: get a solid guy who knows what they're doing because
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: this current Fed Chairman Jerome Powell, he does not know
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: what he's doing.
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: He's been a failure.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: So you can recommend to President Trump, Wayne Allyn Root,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: because I would do a hell of a lot better job.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I would say?
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: Knock the interest rates down to make houses affordable. That
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: is what is going to make houses affordable for young people.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: And get rid of green energy, because that's what makes
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: everything unaffordable. Get rid of climate change legislation. That's what
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: makes everything unaffordable. Get rid of Obamacare. That's what makes
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: everything unaffordable. Get rid of illegal aliens. That's what's running
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: up the debt and making everything unaffordable. And therefore, everything
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: becomes affordable. Democrats are the ones who caused all this.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: 92% reduction in illegal crossings at the border in just
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: 11 months.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: 92% reduction.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: My friend Tom Holman, by the way, as you know,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: he's the border czar. He has done an amazing job
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in a humane and effective way of.
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: Making sure we have a secure border and getting.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Rid of the— he estimates, by the way, I talked to
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: him a few weeks ago— Hey, Steve, hold on.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: We're going to a break. We're going to a break.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Stay there.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Don't go away. I'll let you finish when we get back.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Sit right there. We'll be right back. More with Steve Moore.
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• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Lost Soldier is the last major BCGA, Basin Centered Gas Accumulation.
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  Speaker 5: This is code for a monster field where gas or
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  Speaker 5: oil is in a basin, which makes the drilling and
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: production much easier. Mark, you're a legend in the oil
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  Speaker 5: industry and the gas industry.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Tell us about your track record.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I'm a second-generation oil and gas guy. My father,
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: in the early 1950s, started a company called Techstar. It
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: later became Texas Oil and Gas. When it sold out
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: to U.S. Steel, it was the largest independent in the world.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Delhi Pipelines was the largest gas distribution system in the
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: United States when it sold out to U.S.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Steel.
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: I worked with him for four years. I've been in
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: the oil and gas business ever since. You would probably
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: know me better as the chairman of Ultra Petroleum. And
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: I Ultra had a pretty good track record, which you're
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: very familiar with, I think.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Well, I think a $ 10, 000 investor in Ultra turned it
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: into $ 13 million.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Is that correct? In the nine-year run of your publicly
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: traded company?
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, at the high, that's true.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: $ 10, 000 turned into $ 13 million. That means $ 100, 000.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Turned into $ 130 million. That's an incredible track record. Now
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: tell me why this deal, Lost Soldier, this project is
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: so important. I hear about projects and deals all the time.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: What makes this one special, Mark?
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: What's special about this is all the other basins in
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: the United States have been drilled. We've known for 50
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: years what they are. This one could not be drilled
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: because there was a uranium mine out here. Until it
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: was reclamated three years ago, no one could drill it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: This is surrounded by large oil and gas fields with
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: billions of dollars of infrastructure that at this point.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Is 85% empty.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: So we made this discovery. We are the only operator
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: in this field. And right now we can see that
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: we've got enough room for 500 horizontal wells out here
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: with what we've drilled so far. Very exciting. It's the
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: new basin in the United States. And as far as
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: I'm concerned, this is an order of magnitude bigger than
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: Ultra Petroleum, the one that I did.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: All right. The website is lostsoldier.com. Pretty simple stuff. Lostsoldier.com.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: The project, 40,000 acres, took 40 years to piece together.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: It's called Lost Soldier Oil and Gas LLC. That's the company.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: That's the project. But the website, Lostsoldier.com.
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  Speaker 5: If you're an accredited investor, Mark wants to hear from you.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: If you want to hear more information, check it out.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Fill out the form and you get to Lost Soldier.
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  Speaker 5: Mark and his people will get back to you as CFO.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: and let you know all the details you need to know, LostSoldier.com.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, Mark, for being with us today. Hey, thank you, Wayne.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Good to see you again.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: All right, Dwayne, on the road, I wanted to finish
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: up a couple of key points with Steve Moore. So, Steve,
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: I like to say to my friends who complain about
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: affordability that Trump managed to get under control. The increase
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: in the rate of inflation, it's so much lower than
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: under Biden. It's a miracle what he pulled off in
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: one year. In just a few months, in just a
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: few weeks, it's a miracle, let alone in the last year.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: But if you really want the underlying base prices to
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: go down, if you really want to see them drop dramatically,
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: you'd have to have a Great Depression. And none of
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: us want that. You don't want to see prices drop.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: And that's what you just said. You'd call it deflation.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: I called it a Great Depression. What could possibly make
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: prices drop dramatically? It wouldn't be a good thing, right?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, prices drop when productivity increases. And if you
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: can make more things, then guess what? Their price falls.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: This is a very simple concept in economics. Increase of
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: supply leads to lower prices. I got to tell you
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: that somebody just sent me a note, a friend of mine,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: in Oklahoma saying that right now the gas price is $ 1. 87
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: a gallon. It was as high as $ 4 or $ 5.
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: A gallon under Biden.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: But the most important thing that makes the whole idea
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: of affordability a bit of a farce is that the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: evidence is crystal clear that wages and salaries are rising
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: faster than prices right now, which was the opposite of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: what happened under Biden when prices went up faster than
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: people's ability to pay. So we're starting to see Trump's
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: numbers on the economy, especially in the last month, start
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: to really climb as the perception catches up with the reality,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: which is this is a smoking economy.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Steve? I'm kind of someone who
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: believes there's two Americas.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, there's a Republican American, a Democrat American, And the
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Democrats believe their own set of quote unquote facts. And
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: then they call us misinformation. And we believe our set
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: of facts and we call theirs misinformation. Of course, we're right.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: But that's besides the point. I think it's a self-fulfilling
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: prophecy is the problem. My friends who live in blue states,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: their gas has not come down. If you live in California,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: gas is still stratospheric. If you live in Nevada, by
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: the way, which is kind of a red state now.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: But we use California's gas pipeline. So our gas prices
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: are almost as high as California. So we're still at
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: like $ 3. 50 and $ 4 in some places. So, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: it seems like to people who live in blue states
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: that Trump has not done what he said he'd do.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: But you and I both know in Oklahoma and Texas
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: and Florida, gas prices are way down. We also know
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: inflation is lower in red states than blue states in general.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: So it's a matter of where you live.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: So nine of the 10 states that have the highest
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: cost of living and the biggest increase inflation are blue states.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: It's California, it's Illinois, it's New York, it's New Jersey,
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: it's Connecticut, it's Massachusetts.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Illinois, I'm sure.
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: Those states have much higher costs. So if you want
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: a lower cost of living, Move to a red state.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: And they are.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: They are.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Lots of people are moving to red states. Believe me,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Las Vegas is booming.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: By the way, what was the one red state that's
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: in that list of the 10 most expensive states?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I forget which one it was, but there was only
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: one of the states that was not a blue state,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and I don't recall off.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: The top of my head. I was wondering if it
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: was Nevada.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Eight of the ten states with the lowest cost of
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: living are red states.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Right, of course.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I'm sure one of the exceptions is Nevada, because we're
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: pretty expensive, because we have the gas rates of California,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: and we've also got electric rates, the electricity in Las Vegas,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: which is 90% of the population of Nevada.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: The electricity is NV Energy.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: It's owned by Warren Buffett, and he went to like
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: 40% green energy.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: So my electric bill has skyrocketed. No surprise, right?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, states that have green energy mandates pay 50% to
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: 100% more for electric utility bills, for gasoline, for energy.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, all you're doing with all these green energy
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: mandates is requiring people to pay more out of their pockets,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and they can't afford it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Trump is amazing. He's doing great things.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I get mad every day because so many of my
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: friends and so many of my fans.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: But, you know, it's like maybe.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: 20 percent, 80 percent love and appreciate Trump. But a
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: good 20 percent are always complaining about something. Epstein this
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: and Epstein that and something. In the end, it's about
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: your pocketbook, and Trump is doing a great job, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: we're getting a booming economy, 5.4% GDP. That's the highest
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: since what, Reagan? When has there been 5% or higher
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: since Reagan?
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: It's an incredible number, and that follows up on 4.3%,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: which is what we got for the third quarter.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And I think the first quarter is off to a
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: great start, too. My buddy Larry Kudlow said on Fox
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the other day that he thinks we're going to get 5%.
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: Growth for the whole year of 2026.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: That's a little higher than where I am, but look,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: anything under over 3.5% growth, you get big, big reductions
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: in the debt and deficit because you grow your way
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: out of the problem.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Right. And that's what we're trying to do. I said
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: it to my son this morning. I said, you don't
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: get it, man. It's about have you want to beat inflation?
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: You've got to grow out of the problem with high
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: economic growth and create a booming economy and make wages
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: fly more than the cost of inflation.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: So we're on the same train here. My great buddy,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Kip Herridge.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Who's one of the great economic predictors in the country,
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: he's been predicting a Reagan boom for the next three years.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: And he didn't come lately to that. He's been saying
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: that since the day Trump got elected. He said, we
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: are set up for the Trump miracle part two.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: And he said, we're going to have 5% and 6%.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: GDP.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: He thinks six by 2027. So I hope he's right.
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: Boy, would I love to see that.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: We did get, for a year, we got almost 7%
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: growth under Reagan.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: So you can do it.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: It could do it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: It could happen.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: He says by 2027. I think Kip's going to be right. You, me,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: and Kip are all going to be in good position here, Steve.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: We got it right. Thank you for coming on the
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: show and have yourself a great night. Happy New Year.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Wayne.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Happy New Year.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: All right. Wayne Allyn Root, that's it for tonight. Have
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• 43:02
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