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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the last hours a
- 0:16Speaker 1: stunning development in the search for seven year old Harmony Montgomery.
- 0:20Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
- 0:23Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nations Serious x
- 0:25Speaker 1: one eleven. First of all, take to listen to our cut.
- 0:29Speaker 1: B's not a Manchester, New Hampshire right now. A man
- 0:32Speaker 1: has been arrested in connection to the search for a
- 0:34Speaker 1: young girl who has been missing for two years. The
- 0:37Speaker 1: Attorney General says that Adam Montgomery was wanted for allegedly
- 0:41Speaker 1: assaulting Harmony Montgomery in twenty nineteen. He is facing several charges,
- 0:46Speaker 1: but has not been charged in her disappearance. Police say
- 0:49Speaker 1: the now seven year old was lasting in twenty nineteen,
- 0:51Speaker 1: although she was only reported missing last week. I appreciate that.
- 0:57Speaker 1: I'm glad an arrest has been made, essentially for the
- 1:00Speaker 1: black eye this little girl had in twenty nineteen. Police
- 1:04Speaker 1: were called and they went, can't do anything about that.
- 1:09Speaker 1: We'll wash my hands to the whole thing Department of
- 1:11Speaker 1: Family Children's Services. Even worse, they not only don't take
- 1:16Speaker 1: her out of the home then, but they proceed to
- 1:20Speaker 1: give full custody and give her two The father that
- 1:27Speaker 1: we think gave her the black eye, and that is
- 1:30Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. You were hearing our friends
- 1:33Speaker 1: at CBS Boston just sin. Did you notice what she
- 1:37Speaker 1: said and what she didn't say? Roll it again, Jackie.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Police is not a Manchester, New Hampshire. Right now, a
- 1:42Speaker 1: man has been arrested in connection to the search for
- 1:45Speaker 1: a young girl who has been missing for two years.
- 1:48Speaker 1: The Attorney General says that Adam Montgomery was wanted for
- 1:51Speaker 1: allegedly assaulting Harmony Montgomery in twenty nineteen. He is facing
- 1:56Speaker 1: several charges but has not been charged in her disappearance.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Police say the now seven year old was lasting in
- 2:02Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, although she was only reported missing last week.
- 2:06Speaker 1: So he's arrested for the black eye that this little
- 2:10Speaker 1: five year old girl had. Who by the way, he's
- 2:13Speaker 1: blind in her right eye. But nobody has found Harmony
- 2:18Speaker 1: and nobody has been arrested in Harmony's disappearance. Again, This
- 2:24Speaker 1: is Fox Nation and Series X one eleven Crime Stories.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, with me an all
- 2:30Speaker 1: star panel to make sense of what we are learning
- 2:33Speaker 1: fast and furious as we go to air right now.
- 2:36Speaker 1: We believe that that father Adam Montgomery is being arraigned.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Now that sounds that's a million dollar word for being
- 2:47Speaker 1: read his charges. Under our constitution, you can't sit in
- 2:52Speaker 1: jail for over seventy two hours without being told while
- 2:56Speaker 1: you're there what the charges are and being told your
- 3:00Speaker 1: constitutional rights, including a right to a lawyer. And if
- 3:02Speaker 1: you cannot afford a lawyer, the state will provide you
- 3:05Speaker 1: a lawyer free of charge. Not exactly free, because we're
- 3:08Speaker 1: all paying for it, the taxpayers with me. Nicole hutch
- 3:12Speaker 1: Glow joining us out of Texas. She's been on the
- 3:15Speaker 1: case from the very beginning. Former prosecutor now defense attorney
- 3:19Speaker 1: at Houston Criminal Defense dot com. Pronounced psychologists joining us.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Doctor Jerry Crossen, faculty Saint Leo University, consultant with the
- 3:28Speaker 1: Blue Wall Institute, author of Operation s S. Robert Crispin
- 3:33Speaker 1: with us right now. Former law enforcement now private investigator.
- 3:36Speaker 1: You can find him at Crispin Investigations dot com. First
- 3:42Speaker 1: Nicole Parton Crime Online dot com investigative reporter Nicole What happened?
- 3:45Speaker 1: So breaking news coming out of Manchester last night where
- 3:49Speaker 1: thirty one year old Adam Montgomery was arrested. He is
- 3:53Speaker 1: charged with one count of felony second degree assault, one
- 3:59Speaker 1: missed to me charge of interference with custody, and two
- 4:03Speaker 1: misdemeanor charges of endangering the welfare of a child. All
- 4:08Speaker 1: of this, as you said, coming from that summer two
- 4:11Speaker 1: thousand nineteen incident where we little Harmony has that black eye.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Two years later, there's finally an arrest. You're absolutely correct,
- 4:20Speaker 1: Nicole Parton. Take a listen to our friends at WCVB.
- 4:24Speaker 1: We have some breaking news right now in the case
- 4:26Speaker 1: of that missing girl in New Hampshire. The state Attorney
- 4:29Speaker 1: General is saying an outstanding warrant on a twenty nineteen
- 4:33Speaker 1: assault charge involving seven year old Harmony Montgomery, Adam Montgomery,
- 4:38Speaker 1: will be arraigned today. We are waiting to hear from
- 4:41Speaker 1: the AG about Montgomery's relationship to that child. The search
- 4:45Speaker 1: continues this morning for Harmony His relationship. Well, I can
- 4:48Speaker 1: tell you that right now. Adam Montgomery is Harmony's father.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Her mother, who goes a couple of different names, but
- 4:58Speaker 1: we know her as Crystal. Sorry, has not had custody
- 5:02Speaker 1: of Harmony since twenty nineteen. I want to go straight
- 5:06Speaker 1: to you. Robert Crispin, private investigator. Crispin's special investigations. What
- 5:10Speaker 1: do you make of the arrest, Well, I make it
- 5:12Speaker 1: as they want to move this thing forward, and they
- 5:14Speaker 1: want to get him into a controlled environment, to get
- 5:18Speaker 1: an interview with this guy, to find out what's going on,
- 5:21Speaker 1: and put these charges out there. Get him under their umbrella,
- 5:25Speaker 1: get him under their control. Wow, you know in the
- 5:28Speaker 1: dictionary where they put euphemism, I'm gonna put your picture
- 5:32Speaker 1: beside that, because you're really putting the perfume on the
- 5:35Speaker 1: pig right there, Crispin. What they're doing is they're arresting
- 5:38Speaker 1: him on a previous charge of beating this little girl
- 5:42Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, allegedly beating her, leaving this little girl
- 5:47Speaker 1: with a black eye. They've got him in their clutches
- 5:51Speaker 1: like the spider in the web, and now they're going
- 5:53Speaker 1: to try to squeeze him. Talk to him if he
- 5:56Speaker 1: will volunteer anything, play good cop, bad cop, Bring him
- 6:00Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, no, take it away, give it back,
- 6:03Speaker 1: Threaten him within the confines of the constitution, of course,
- 6:08Speaker 1: put him on a guilt trip. Whatever they could do
- 6:11Speaker 1: to find this little girl. Of course, within the bounds
- 6:14Speaker 1: of the constitution, which you agree or disagree, Nicole hotch Clube.
- 6:19Speaker 1: I totally agree, and I think unfortunately, because of his
- 6:22Speaker 1: experience with law enforcement, he is not likely to break
- 6:25Speaker 1: and provide information. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't
- 6:29Speaker 1: expect that they'll be getting any helpful information out of
- 6:32Speaker 1: this individual. Nicole de Bord hotch Clube, you know you're
- 6:35Speaker 1: in trouble when I do that. When I call John
- 6:38Speaker 1: David all of his made up names John David otis
- 6:41Speaker 1: U Jane Lynch the first, Nicole Debord hotch Clube. You
- 6:48Speaker 1: know how in the dictionary they have meaning one, meaning two,
- 6:52Speaker 1: meaning three. If I give Crispin meaning one for you,
- 6:55Speaker 1: if I miss him, I guess I'll have to give
- 6:57Speaker 1: you meaning two. Could you repeat what you just said?
- 7:04Speaker 1: But you said based on his experience, you make him
- 7:08Speaker 1: sound like he's a private investigator or a psychologist. I
- 7:11Speaker 1: believe what you mean by that, Nicole Debord hodge Clube,
- 7:15Speaker 1: is that he's got a rap sheet as long as
- 7:18Speaker 1: I seventy five. Are you talking about that experience? You
- 7:21Speaker 1: got it? That's his resume. He's had many encounters with
- 7:25Speaker 1: law enforcement, and I'm thinking, because he's had so many
- 7:28Speaker 1: encounters with law enforcement, that he is very very unlikely
- 7:31Speaker 1: to respond to what, no doubt is something he's seen before.
- 7:36Speaker 1: In terms of interview techniques, I'm wondering, just throwing it
- 7:40Speaker 1: out there, if he could be on probation or parole
- 7:43Speaker 1: for anything, because if he is, this arrest would absolutely
- 7:49Speaker 1: constitute a violation of parole or probation, which means, what's
- 7:55Speaker 1: an easy way to say this? Here is a typical
- 7:59Speaker 1: sentence that I would recommend to a judge. Let's just
- 8:01Speaker 1: say Jackie over here, it's her second offense with crack cocaine?
- 8:06Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? Woman? Now? I've caught her
- 8:10Speaker 1: again with a five rock a little of what is that?
- 8:14Speaker 1: It's a little hit of crack. It's like a little
- 8:17Speaker 1: yellow rock, Okay, but it's crack and you melt it
- 8:21Speaker 1: down and you smoke it. Of course, in your a case,
- 8:25Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you're going to do with it,
- 8:26Speaker 1: but I would recommend something like five to do three.
- 8:30Speaker 1: So what's the five? That means three years behind bars
- 8:34Speaker 1: because it's your second offense. I gave you first offender
- 8:37Speaker 1: treatment the first time. For Pete's sake. Five means five
- 8:41Speaker 1: years of probation. Three of that behind bars, which means
- 8:46Speaker 1: she's on the hook for two more years. So if
- 8:51Speaker 1: this guy was on parole or probation that can be revoked.
- 8:56Speaker 1: He's out wandering free amongst us on parola, probation maybe,
- 9:02Speaker 1: and even an arrest on a substantive crime such as
- 9:07Speaker 1: assaulting his daughter in two nineteen, that would revoke that probation.
- 9:12Speaker 1: In a New York minute, explain it, Nicole Hodge Globe
- 9:15Speaker 1: and don't wind up back in the dictionary. Well, here's
- 9:21Speaker 1: the problem, because there's been such an incredible delay with this.
- 9:24Speaker 1: He would have had to be on probation at the
- 9:26Speaker 1: time of the allegation. So twenty nineteen, Oh, I'm sure
- 9:29Speaker 1: he must have done well and still on probation now
- 9:32Speaker 1: so that they could natronize that type of control over him.
- 9:35Speaker 1: So you're rightly lengthy timeline. You're right, the probation or
- 9:39Speaker 1: parole would have to be in effect at the time
- 9:42Speaker 1: of the Black Eye if he in fact did it.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Although we know from the uncle Kevin Montgomery, Kevin Montgomery
- 9:51Speaker 1: called police call nine one one when he saw the
- 9:53Speaker 1: little girl in the Black Eye, and according to him,
- 9:56Speaker 1: the father, Adam Montgomery, got so angry he has never
- 10:00Speaker 1: spoken to Kevin again. So it seems to me, you know,
- 10:04Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence dictates to me he's the one that gave
- 10:07Speaker 1: the black eye, because anybody else would want the cops
- 10:09Speaker 1: to show up. Time stories with Nancy Grace. Let's just
- 10:28Speaker 1: run through what we know of his rap sheet, Nicole Parton,
- 10:31Speaker 1: Do you have anything on his rap sheet that we
- 10:33Speaker 1: know of? I do, and his rap sheet goes all
- 10:35Speaker 1: the way back on me. Get comfortable, Go ahead, Okay,
- 10:39Speaker 1: A numerous long rap sheet that includes burglary, a salt an,
- 10:46Speaker 1: armed robbery with the intent to murder, and another interesting thing.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, Nicole. This is based on
- 10:55Speaker 1: an account I got from Boston twenty five. Yes, in
- 10:59Speaker 1: Hampshire he has the burglary, which is a felony, first year,
- 11:01Speaker 1: we assault which is a felony, stalking which can be
- 11:05Speaker 1: a felony in Massachusetts maybe dating back to twenty fourteen,
- 11:10Speaker 1: which that affects what that relates to what Nicole Hodge
- 11:13Speaker 1: Club just said. In Haverhill, you've got armed robbery? Why
- 11:18Speaker 1: is he even out armed robbery? Assault with intent to
- 11:22Speaker 1: murder which I believe to have been a drug shooting,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and they just hand the child over to this father
- 11:33Speaker 1: if they give the baby to him. If this is
- 11:36Speaker 1: in fact the same Adam Montgomery with the same dab,
- 11:42Speaker 1: what about that doctor Jerry crossing? Doctor Jerry, You've never
- 11:45Speaker 1: worked with defacts, have you? Oh, dear Lord in Heaven,
- 11:52Speaker 1: you worked with why to help children? Okay, all right?
- 11:58Speaker 1: That was my focus with him. I look at his
- 12:01Speaker 1: past behavior in order to look at future behavior. He
- 12:05Speaker 1: knows the criminal justice system, so it comes down to
- 12:08Speaker 1: how well they interview and negotiate with him. He's in
- 12:12Speaker 1: a position to negotiate information, so as an interviewer of him,
- 12:19Speaker 1: that's where I would focus in on, because he's definitely
- 12:22Speaker 1: got information from twenty nineteen four that they need to
- 12:26Speaker 1: use to fill in their timeline. You know, I'm getting
- 12:30Speaker 1: a ton of emails and texts on this, and I've
- 12:33Speaker 1: got one question out of Birmingham, and the question is
- 12:41Speaker 1: is there a way to find out why Harmony is
- 12:42Speaker 1: blind in one eye? Was she born blind in one eye?
- 12:46Speaker 1: Or is that a result of abuse? Wow? Okay, that's
- 12:52Speaker 1: a good question. That's a really good question. And I
- 12:55Speaker 1: want to go back Jackie to some sound from the
- 13:00Speaker 1: Chief of Police where he goes on and on about
- 13:06Speaker 1: how the public should not play detective. Yeah, that's the one.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to our cut nineteen. Well, we
- 13:17Speaker 1: ask people, don't play detective, okay, don't play police officer.
- 13:22Speaker 1: That is our job. That's the men and women's job
- 13:25Speaker 1: that work on the Captain Layton. People going on social
- 13:29Speaker 1: media and circulating their opinions of their theories to do nothing,
- 13:33Speaker 1: nothing for this investigation and are no good and are
- 13:36Speaker 1: no helpful in trying to locate Harmony. I asked, if
- 13:39Speaker 1: you leave that that work to where it belongs, and
- 13:41Speaker 1: it belongs to the Manchester Police Department. We're two years
- 13:44Speaker 1: behind the power curve, all right, and where Harmony should
- 13:48Speaker 1: have been, all right, and who she should have been with,
- 13:52Speaker 1: She's not with them. Chief, you need all the help
- 13:57Speaker 1: you can get. And as I mentioned earlier, the whole
- 14:01Speaker 1: way we found Gabby Petito's body out in the middle
- 14:05Speaker 1: of the wilderness is because a citizen detective happened to
- 14:11Speaker 1: have been taking video and remembered seeing the van, Gabby's
- 14:15Speaker 1: van out in dispersed camping out in literally the middle
- 14:22Speaker 1: of an nowhere, and they pulled that video up, they
- 14:25Speaker 1: pulled those photos up, and they sent it to police.
- 14:28Speaker 1: The police went to that location and they found Gabby.
- 14:33Speaker 1: So what you're hearing Robert Crispin is the chief of
- 14:36Speaker 1: police there in Manchester telling everybody back off, we'll handle
- 14:40Speaker 1: this well. They have screwed it up for the last
- 14:43Speaker 1: two years. And I guarantee you the only reason that
- 14:47Speaker 1: dad was arrested in the middle of the night last
- 14:50Speaker 1: night is because it came out that the uncle, Kevin Montgomery,
- 14:55Speaker 1: saw her with a black eye. Police recalled and please
- 15:00Speaker 1: did nothing. So if they were going to arrest Adam Montgomery,
- 15:04Speaker 1: the father, they should have done it right then that
- 15:07Speaker 1: day and her life would have been saved maybe, But
- 15:11Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, let's don't do that. Let's not
- 15:14Speaker 1: only not making arrest but hand her over on a
- 15:17Speaker 1: silver platter to her violent father. What about that, Crispin?
- 15:21Speaker 1: And now you got the chief of police telling us
- 15:23Speaker 1: not to investigate. Really did he just say that? Listen,
- 15:27Speaker 1: We had this conversation. They had some big problems coming
- 15:30Speaker 1: as far as not making that arrest back in twenty nineteen,
- 15:33Speaker 1: and as far as social media. That is an investigator's dream.
- 15:37Speaker 1: That is an investigator's perfect tool when going to investigate somebody,
- 15:44Speaker 1: and more leads come out of social media. It's unbelievable
- 15:46Speaker 1: how many cases get cleared just based out of social media.
- 15:49Speaker 1: So they've got some problems coming. Thank god. Idiots that
- 15:52Speaker 1: go online and brag and show off their moneyballs. You know,
- 15:56Speaker 1: the other day Crispin talking to Robert or Crispin former
- 16:00Speaker 1: cop now private investigator. Is it Crispin Investigations dot com
- 16:05Speaker 1: or Crispin Special Investigations dot com? Crispin Investigations dot com. Okay,
- 16:10Speaker 1: so not all of your investigations are special. Just I'm special. Okay,
- 16:15Speaker 1: you're the special part. Okay, well we'll debate that later.
- 16:18Speaker 1: But over the holiday, I saw, let me just say,
- 16:23Speaker 1: when the twins do something silly, I call him at
- 16:25Speaker 1: ding Dong because I don't want to say idiot or stupid.
- 16:28Speaker 1: We don't say the S word, which is stupid, not
- 16:32Speaker 1: the other s work. I saw this ding Dong posting
- 16:36Speaker 1: pictures of himself with Santa holding up all his money,
- 16:40Speaker 1: his moneyballs. Well, needless to say, he had an outstanding
- 16:46Speaker 1: a warrant for assault or aggravator assault or something, and
- 16:50Speaker 1: immediately arrested him right there at the mall Santa, I think,
- 16:53Speaker 1: posting photos of himself with the mall Santa, at use
- 16:58Speaker 1: social media supposed to in every law enforcement agency and
- 17:02Speaker 1: every aggressive detective bureau trolls social media just like a
- 17:06Speaker 1: patrol guy trolls a parking lot looking for burglars. It's
- 17:10Speaker 1: it's today's weapon in solving crimes. Man, you're not kidding. Christians, obey.
- 17:15Speaker 1: You're all in social media when you get a divorce
- 17:18Speaker 1: or whatever, because you know, if the husband's cheating, the
- 17:21Speaker 1: girlfriend espressing all sorts of pictures of her new Rolex
- 17:24Speaker 1: watch blah blah blah. Doctor Jory, Yes, doctor Jorry Cross
- 17:28Speaker 1: and joining us psychologists, renowned psychologists, faculties, Saint Leo University, consultant,
- 17:34Speaker 1: author of oppressions. You have now revealed that you worked
- 17:40Speaker 1: at Defects. Isn't that true? Yes? I did parenting evils
- 17:44Speaker 1: and psychological Okay, what now? I did parenting evils and
- 17:49Speaker 1: psychological court order psychologicals on the parents. And I also
- 17:53Speaker 1: treated abused and neglected children. You know, doctor Jorry, every
- 17:57Speaker 1: time I taught to y'all learned something new as I'm old. No,
- 18:02Speaker 1: that's because you're talented and experienced and just kind of
- 18:07Speaker 1: psychologist I wouldn't want to put on the stand and
- 18:10Speaker 1: people don't get when you represent crime victims, especially children,
- 18:14Speaker 1: it really takes a chunk out of you from then
- 18:17Speaker 1: on because I remember right now so many of the
- 18:21Speaker 1: children that I represented, many of them dead of course
- 18:26Speaker 1: when I was a prosecutor, all the investigation and getting
- 18:29Speaker 1: the defacts reports, and the horrible disappointment when I found
- 18:33Speaker 1: out find out defects could have taken the show from
- 18:35Speaker 1: the home, but no, they left them there to die
- 18:37Speaker 1: and still going on today. Could you tell us the
- 18:40Speaker 1: meaning of the words home study? Well, a home study
- 18:44Speaker 1: there's different ones, like for an adoption or placement, but
- 18:47Speaker 1: basically that's like a psychosocial assessment. You look at the
- 18:54Speaker 1: dynamics in the house, the family, the extended family, the
- 18:57Speaker 1: support system, the coping mechanisms that the family has, the
- 19:02Speaker 1: attachment issues. So it's a very comprehensive report. You know,
- 19:07Speaker 1: it usually takes about thirty to forty hours of just
- 19:10Speaker 1: dedicated time to put together. And isn't it true doctor
- 19:14Speaker 1: Jerry Cross and that before you place a child, especially
- 19:17Speaker 1: especially of tender years. You refer to a child under
- 19:20Speaker 1: twelve as of tender years into a home, a child
- 19:25Speaker 1: that's come out of foster care, like harmony, she admounts
- 19:30Speaker 1: to about nine different foster homes. According to a connected witness,
- 19:36Speaker 1: Apparently in this case, no home study was ever done
- 19:41Speaker 1: and they placed her with a violent, abusive father. What
- 19:45Speaker 1: do you make of that, Doctor Jorry, to say that's
- 19:48Speaker 1: a break in the system is an understatement. Okay. Once
- 19:54Speaker 1: they're in the system, there's other participants, you know, like
- 19:59Speaker 1: here in four that we have the child's taken into
- 20:02Speaker 1: custody for protection, there's going to be up to seven
- 20:05Speaker 1: different people with lawyers like the guardian ad lightem. You
- 20:10Speaker 1: know there's going to be dc But don't throw around
- 20:13Speaker 1: legal terms plays no Latin phrases. Guardian at lynem just
- 20:19Speaker 1: simply means you can hear the word in their litigation.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Ad ltem means the court when they're worried about a
- 20:27Speaker 1: child will appoint a guardian ad linem, which is basically
- 20:32Speaker 1: someone that's been feeling in doing that. Go ahead. Yeah,
- 20:35Speaker 1: here in Florida, you know they're appointed. I was one
- 20:37Speaker 1: for eighteen years. So you're appointed by the Supreme Court
- 20:42Speaker 1: State Supreme Court. You're the eyes and ears of the judge.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Basically the judge. You work for the judge in the
- 20:48Speaker 1: best interests of the child, so you know, the guardian
- 20:51Speaker 1: ad lightem has personal input rate to the judge. We've
- 20:56Speaker 1: had horrible cases in Florida. We're really yeah, and can
- 21:02Speaker 1: ended up yead. That was you know, many years ago.
- 21:07Speaker 1: The system has corrected with a lot of work in
- 21:11Speaker 1: the legislation and things like that. We're not infallible, but
- 21:16Speaker 1: you know it's a lot better than some states time
- 21:32Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace. We are waiting at this moment
- 21:37Speaker 1: for the so called father. And I say so called
- 21:40Speaker 1: because when I say dad, I think of my dad,
- 21:43Speaker 1: who is the best dad in the world. Although I've
- 21:45Speaker 1: got two ladies in the studio that would fight me
- 21:47Speaker 1: on that, claiming their dad is the best dad in
- 21:49Speaker 1: the world. But her biological father is going to be
- 21:53Speaker 1: in court at any moment to be arraigned. Nicole de
- 21:57Speaker 1: word Hodge Club simply what is when somebody is arraigned.
- 22:01Speaker 1: When someone is arraigned, they're brought before the court and
- 22:04Speaker 1: they're told exactly what their charges are and then they
- 22:07Speaker 1: can enter a plea of guilty or not guilty. We're
- 22:10Speaker 1: waiting on that right now. Under our constitution that is required.
- 22:14Speaker 1: You cannot be held behind bars forever. A certain period
- 22:17Speaker 1: of time without being brought to court by an impartial magistrate,
- 22:21Speaker 1: as the law says back to you, Nicole a part
- 22:23Speaker 1: in Crime Online dot Com Investigative Reporter. What more do
- 22:26Speaker 1: we know, Nicole? We're still waiting, Nancy. And I also
- 22:29Speaker 1: want to point out you've seen pictures of this guy,
- 22:32Speaker 1: and I'm sure you noticed, like I did, that cheer
- 22:34Speaker 1: drop tattoo under his eye, which we know associated with
- 22:39Speaker 1: gang prison culture, time served and most of the time
- 22:43Speaker 1: means that they have killed someone and they're kind of
- 22:46Speaker 1: proud of it right there on his face. Now, some
- 22:49Speaker 1: people would argue and claim that means you have lost
- 22:53Speaker 1: someone to violent crime and you keep a cheer coming
- 22:57Speaker 1: out of your eye, But originally it was to signify
- 23:01Speaker 1: you had killed someone, not just everybody has a tattoo
- 23:05Speaker 1: on the front of their face, so it is significant.
- 23:08Speaker 1: And not only that, in Nicole part joining us Crime
- 23:11Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, not only are you an
- 23:14Speaker 1: investigative reporter, you're also a foster parent. How does this
- 23:17Speaker 1: whole thing work? Absolutely, and this is so disturbing because
- 23:21Speaker 1: here's the thing. Biological parents are held to a different
- 23:26Speaker 1: standard than those of us who are foster parents my
- 23:29Speaker 1: home study. To be a foster parent, I can't as
- 23:32Speaker 1: much as have a speeding ticket, Nancy. They come in
- 23:36Speaker 1: quarterly and they will take the temperature of my water
- 23:39Speaker 1: in the kitchen sink. My soap is locked up in
- 23:44Speaker 1: a box with a lock and key on it. This
- 23:46Speaker 1: guy has a record that includes robbery with intent to kill,
- 23:51Speaker 1: but DCF placed a child in his care. The system
- 23:54Speaker 1: is broken. The system is fragile, and the standards by
- 23:58Speaker 1: which biological parents are held are completely different than those
- 24:02Speaker 1: of us who are foster parents. Yes, they had home study,
- 24:06Speaker 1: but it is in no way the equivalent to a
- 24:08Speaker 1: home study that you and I would have to participate in.
- 24:11Speaker 1: And Nicole parton joining us from crime online dot com.
- 24:15Speaker 1: You've gotten the father with a rap sheet, and you've
- 24:17Speaker 1: got the mother who has lost custody. I think we
- 24:21Speaker 1: can take her out of this equation because it's could
- 24:24Speaker 1: you check this, Jackie? Unless you know, Nicole, I don't
- 24:27Speaker 1: think the mom had custody in twenty nineteen when Harmony
- 24:31Speaker 1: was last seen alive with that black eye. That was
- 24:33Speaker 1: around October one, twenty nineteen. Okay, So, and once her
- 24:40Speaker 1: rights are terminated, he can't do any more than she's done.
- 24:44Speaker 1: She can call DC up and ask, but they're not
- 24:47Speaker 1: going to tell her anything. She has legally no right.
- 24:50Speaker 1: So in somewhat of a defense to this mom, if
- 24:54Speaker 1: she was looking for the daughter, they wouldn't give her
- 24:56Speaker 1: any information because her rights have been terminated. You know,
- 25:00Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you saying that the Defacts
- 25:06Speaker 1: Department and Department Family Shouldern's Services wouldn't have to give
- 25:09Speaker 1: the bio mom info. But it would be a cold
- 25:13Speaker 1: day in hubl that I tried to find my child
- 25:16Speaker 1: through Facebook or by texting someone. You can't find your child,
- 25:22Speaker 1: you call nine one one, or you get in the
- 25:24Speaker 1: car and you go to that location and start looking. Now,
- 25:28Speaker 1: I don't know her circumstances. I don't know that much
- 25:30Speaker 1: about the mom, except that she did not have custody
- 25:33Speaker 1: of her own child and that her other child, at
- 25:36Speaker 1: least one of them, has been put up for adoption
- 25:40Speaker 1: and was adopted into a loving home. I know that much.
- 25:43Speaker 1: But to tell me that she had voice concerns, how
- 25:50Speaker 1: to who what? Two years have passed and we're just
- 25:53Speaker 1: learning the child has disappeared. Take a listen, guys, to
- 25:58Speaker 1: another state agency that failed this little girl. It's our
- 26:02Speaker 1: cut number four and he's at it again, the new
- 26:06Speaker 1: Hampshire Police Chief Alan Aldenberg. Listen, last time she was
- 26:10Speaker 1: enrolled in any type of school. From my understanding, you
- 26:14Speaker 1: have to be confirmed as down in Massachusetts. But again,
- 26:18Speaker 1: she's seven right now, so twenty nineteen five years old,
- 26:22Speaker 1: probably right around that kindergarten timeframe. Again, we've spoken with
- 26:27Speaker 1: family members and we'll continue to do so. I know
- 26:29Speaker 1: I keep coming back to that, and that's a fair question, right,
- 26:33Speaker 1: did we speak to mom? Did we speak to dad?
- 26:35Speaker 1: Did we speak to This was speaking to any and
- 26:37Speaker 1: all family members that come to our attention and ones
- 26:41Speaker 1: that we are seeking out as well. So that tells
- 26:45Speaker 1: me she was in school, doctor Jerry Crossen, she was
- 26:50Speaker 1: in school in Massachusetts. So what happened when she didn't
- 26:54Speaker 1: come back to school in the fall, even if it
- 26:57Speaker 1: was pandemic, she should have been on zoom. What they
- 27:00Speaker 1: just did? Nothing? Somebody should have been checking on that.
- 27:04Speaker 1: I mean either the Child Services, the Education Board of
- 27:08Speaker 1: Education or locally. That's again a break in the system,
- 27:12Speaker 1: but that's that's terrific. I mean, doctor Jorry cross and
- 27:16Speaker 1: you've worked with defacts as you grew and to the
- 27:20Speaker 1: renowned psychologists you are. Now, why would any defects worker
- 27:26Speaker 1: leave a baby girl in the home with a day
- 27:28Speaker 1: that just gave her a black eye? When you've got
- 27:31Speaker 1: a bio uncle literally fighting to try to get back
- 27:36Speaker 1: into the house to see about the girl, and the
- 27:39Speaker 1: family push him literally push him out in the door.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Why would you leave a child in that hell hole?
- 27:45Speaker 1: I would never leave a child like that, And you know,
- 27:48Speaker 1: to try to even phantom that behavior is just really
- 27:52Speaker 1: impossible for me because I've been in those positions and again,
- 27:57Speaker 1: you'll always put the child's interest in safety first. Well,
- 28:00Speaker 1: apparently that's not what happened here. Crime Stories with Nancy
- 28:16Speaker 1: Grace Nicole de Board Hodge Club joining me, high profile
- 28:22Speaker 1: defense lawyer out of Houston, former prosecutor. She's at Houston
- 28:25Speaker 1: Criminal Defense dot Com. What would you advise police to
- 28:28Speaker 1: do with the dad Adam Montgomery? He's behind bars right now.
- 28:34Speaker 1: What do you do with him? How do you go
- 28:36Speaker 1: about questioning him to try to find harmony? Well, at
- 28:39Speaker 1: this point, he's got a lawyer. You've got to get
- 28:41Speaker 1: in touch with that lawyer and try to do what
- 28:43Speaker 1: you can to set up an interview and it may
- 28:45Speaker 1: be time to start talking to the prosecution about what
- 28:49Speaker 1: they can offer him, just to make sure that they
- 28:52Speaker 1: have the most recent and correct information about where harmony
- 28:56Speaker 1: might be. Well, I agree with everything you just said,
- 28:59Speaker 1: but shouldn't they try to talk to him? And unless
- 29:03Speaker 1: he says lawyer, the costs can talk to him. That's
- 29:07Speaker 1: a touchy subject because he likely already has a lawyer.
- 29:11Speaker 1: If you don't know about moment, don't know that the
- 29:14Speaker 1: court should have appointed him someone if he doesn't have
- 29:17Speaker 1: one higher so it can be dangerous. And the problem
- 29:21Speaker 1: is is that if they talk to him while he
- 29:22Speaker 1: already has a lawyer, they could lose the value of
- 29:26Speaker 1: everything that he has to say, and they may be
- 29:29Speaker 1: at risk of not being able to prosecute him, even
- 29:31Speaker 1: if he's telling them the worst information you could imagine.
- 29:34Speaker 1: So they've really got to make sure that they're dotting
- 29:37Speaker 1: their eyes and crossing their teeth and following the rules.
- 29:39Speaker 1: So if he has a lawyer, that lawyer needs to
- 29:41Speaker 1: be in the loop. You're right, Nicole, You're absolutely right.
- 29:45Speaker 1: There's no way to get around it. You don't want
- 29:47Speaker 1: to get some type of a confessional statement that you
- 29:49Speaker 1: can't use in court. Of course, in New Hampshire and
- 29:55Speaker 1: Massachusetts there's no death penalty. You can kill as many
- 29:59Speaker 1: children as you want to and you're never going to
- 30:01Speaker 1: get the death penalty there. You'll get three hots and caught,
- 30:04Speaker 1: just like everybody else. Now I mentioned that Harmony has
- 30:09Speaker 1: siblings from that mom Crystal, Sorry, one of them that
- 30:13Speaker 1: I know of, little jamieson This just breaks my heart.
- 30:17Speaker 1: I can just imagine my twins in this horrible situation.
- 30:21Speaker 1: I tried not to, but Harmony was trying to take
- 30:24Speaker 1: care of her little brother and foster care. Now Jamison
- 30:29Speaker 1: has been adopted out by who I now considered to
- 30:32Speaker 1: be a friend, Blair Miller. Take a listen to our
- 30:36Speaker 1: cut twenty Blair speaking to Boston twenty five. When we
- 30:41Speaker 1: were going down this road, we wanted, we wanted Jamison
- 30:45Speaker 1: to be happy, and we wanted to make it. You know,
- 30:49Speaker 1: we've has who said with Oliver boys, whatever they need
- 30:53Speaker 1: in life to be successful and feel family, and we
- 30:57Speaker 1: all know a family can look very different. We wanted
- 31:00Speaker 1: to be part of and so certainly we were open
- 31:04Speaker 1: to that as a possibility, and we really didn't have
- 31:06Speaker 1: a choice. And because what we were told by DCF
- 31:09Speaker 1: and Massachusetts was that her father, and so we kind
- 31:15Speaker 1: of led that play out, and there wasn't much we
- 31:18Speaker 1: could do. I think we wanted to ask a lot
- 31:21Speaker 1: more questions, and certainly we're asking those questions now and
- 31:24Speaker 1: wondering what happened there and what's the backstory light? But
- 31:29Speaker 1: certainly it's upsetting to hear that no one knows where
- 31:33Speaker 1: she is right now. Dodger Jory Crawsen, this wonderful dad
- 31:41Speaker 1: who has taken little Jamison, Harmony's little brother into their
- 31:46Speaker 1: family and adopted him, tried to get Harmony because they
- 31:52Speaker 1: wanted the little brother to have his family with him.
- 31:56Speaker 1: They wanted to adopt Harmony, and they were told no.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Man Instead defects decided to reunite her with her bio dad,
- 32:06Speaker 1: the convict, the armed robber, the drug shooter. We think
- 32:10Speaker 1: still alleged. What in the world why would they do that?
- 32:15Speaker 1: I can't even a bathom that too, Because you always,
- 32:18Speaker 1: again as a protocol, psychologically and for the best interest
- 32:22Speaker 1: of the child, you keep siblings together. You find placement
- 32:26Speaker 1: where they're together. If you don't have placement, you still
- 32:29Speaker 1: keep the child together. This system. The more I hear
- 32:34Speaker 1: about it up there, it all. It's just terrific. Somebody
- 32:38Speaker 1: needs to do a complete rehaul or get it shut down. Man,
- 32:41Speaker 1: you're not kid about that. Guys, take a listener more
- 32:43Speaker 1: of the police Chief, Alan Aldemar. This is our cut six.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Do you last contact in October of twenty nineteen that
- 32:53Speaker 1: would have been a result of a call for service
- 32:56Speaker 1: involving the Manchester Police Department, and that call for service
- 33:02Speaker 1: was handled, and that that is the last time that
- 33:06Speaker 1: she has been seen here in the city of Manchester.
- 33:08Speaker 1: I'm not saying that she has not been seen somewhere else.
- 33:11Speaker 1: I'm just focusing on home. When the last time she
- 33:13Speaker 1: was seen in the city of Manchester. For us to
- 33:16Speaker 1: have a two year delay, all right, that is extremely concerning.
- 33:22Speaker 1: It's not something that happens on a regular basis not
- 33:24Speaker 1: something that we deal with. I mean, if we had
- 33:27Speaker 1: missing going two years without hearing we're missing children, that
- 33:32Speaker 1: doesn't happen every day. And again that's why I'm standing
- 33:35Speaker 1: in front of you today. I got a two year window.
- 33:38Speaker 1: We have a two year window that we're trying to shrink.
- 33:41Speaker 1: It's very quote concerning. Yeah, I guess it is concerning
- 33:45Speaker 1: because you're a people. Chief answered that black eye call
- 33:49Speaker 1: and left a little girl in the home with a
- 33:52Speaker 1: raging dad who punched her in the face. Other eye
- 33:55Speaker 1: and black and it and you left her there. And
- 33:58Speaker 1: now you're saying quote concerning, and listen to the way
- 34:03Speaker 1: he glossed over that the last contact October twenty nineteen
- 34:08Speaker 1: was the result of a quote call for service. That
- 34:12Speaker 1: call for service was handled, and that's the last time
- 34:16Speaker 1: she has been seen in the city of Manchester. It
- 34:19Speaker 1: was handled, all right. If you're called dropping the ball
- 34:22Speaker 1: and turning your back on an abused, beaten little girl
- 34:26Speaker 1: handling it, I mean, what happened to call a part?
- 34:28Speaker 1: And I've learned a lot through the uncle Kevin Montgomery.
- 34:32Speaker 1: You had the uncle calling and I think July August,
- 34:39Speaker 1: you've got neighbors calling police after that about the bad
- 34:43Speaker 1: living conditions for harmony, and then you got the uncle
- 34:46Speaker 1: calling back in October twenty nineteen. So how was the
- 34:51Speaker 1: black eye call actually handled as the police chief described it?
- 34:58Speaker 1: I wish I knew the details, but he's seeming to
- 35:01Speaker 1: be trying to say that they did respond to the call.
- 35:05Speaker 1: I mean, they showed up, but they found no evidence
- 35:09Speaker 1: to believe I guess that it was a physical attack
- 35:11Speaker 1: of the child. Who knows what happened. Did the father
- 35:14Speaker 1: say she failed? Did he come up with some excuse,
- 35:17Speaker 1: We don't know. They're not releasing those details. But oddly enough,
- 35:21Speaker 1: two years later, they've decided to arrest him for those allegations,
- 35:26Speaker 1: for that conduct against little Harmony. Robert Crispin, before you
- 35:30Speaker 1: became Crispin's Special Investigations, you wore law enforcement. When you
- 35:34Speaker 1: go to a home on a domestic and you see
- 35:37Speaker 1: a victim crime with a black eye, what are you
- 35:40Speaker 1: supposed to do? What's sop? What's protocol? You're going to jail,
- 35:44Speaker 1: you John, right, You're going to jail. Yeah, and how
- 35:48Speaker 1: do you do it? You're going to jail right there
- 35:50Speaker 1: that night. I mean, you know, get back in your
- 35:52Speaker 1: patrol car and drive off. Crispin. Oh, they've got they've
- 35:56Speaker 1: got some problems coming. Um. There's just no way they
- 36:00Speaker 1: can enable their way out of this. You know, I
- 36:03Speaker 1: don't know what their retention period is if they had bodycams,
- 36:06Speaker 1: if they went back and reviewed that call on bodycam.
- 36:08Speaker 1: I don't know what their retention period is for those camps.
- 36:11Speaker 1: But they clearly went back and there was a prosecutor
- 36:14Speaker 1: who felt that there was enough to charge this guy.
- 36:17Speaker 1: And this is what we or what they may have
- 36:19Speaker 1: needed to get this ball rolling. Well, it's a day
- 36:22Speaker 1: late and a dollar short, but okay, if you say so,
- 36:28Speaker 1: go ahead, touch base real quick. And what our other
- 36:32Speaker 1: guests said about him lawyering up and did he have
- 36:34Speaker 1: a lawyer? And listen, there's a lot of stuff going
- 36:37Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. And I can guarantee you that
- 36:39Speaker 1: this interview happened a long time ago, before we knew
- 36:41Speaker 1: about this arrest. This interview happened at the house. I'm
- 36:44Speaker 1: sure there's things going on behind the scenes. I'm sure
- 36:46Speaker 1: there's some search warrants going on, and I'm sure they
- 36:49Speaker 1: had their crack at this guy before he said, lawyer,
- 36:52Speaker 1: you know this isn't the crime. Did you do an
- 36:54Speaker 1: arm robbery? This is a crime about your daughter. You're
- 36:57Speaker 1: a baby daughter, her baby girl. She had only live
- 37:00Speaker 1: sixty months on this earth. A completely different band, it's
- 37:04Speaker 1: a completely different heartstring. Have you looked, guys, have you
- 37:06Speaker 1: looked at her picture? Because she's always got this huge
- 37:09Speaker 1: smile and she's got in her little special glasses and
- 37:13Speaker 1: you can tell one eye is having a problem. We
- 37:16Speaker 1: now know she's blind in that eye. She's always got
- 37:18Speaker 1: this big smile. Behind that smile, this child was being
- 37:22Speaker 1: abused and beaten and bouncing from foster home to foster home,
- 37:27Speaker 1: and now she may be dead. Special tipline six O
- 37:32Speaker 1: three two zero three six zero six zero repeat six
- 37:37Speaker 1: zero three two zero three six zero six zero. The
- 37:42Speaker 1: reward has now climbed to thirty three thousand dollars. We
- 37:47Speaker 1: wait as justice and false Nancy Grace crime story signing off,
- 37:51Speaker 1: Goodbye friend