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- 0:15Welcome to Barbara Cuts, Beats and Bars.
- 0:17We're a fatherhood daughter music podcast that slices into
- 0:19some of the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
- 0:22With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
- 0:25music, we explore albums across genres, rating favorites and
- 0:29skips while digging into what makes each one iconic.
- 0:33I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
- 0:36together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
- 0:39of the sound. Hey everybody, I'm Riley.
- 0:41And I'm Todd, and welcome to Season 2 of Barber Cuts.
- 0:46So hope you all have enjoyed your break.
- 0:50I certainly did, except till now because there's all kinds of
- 0:54snow and ice out on the Memphis streets as we record.
- 1:00But that's OK. So we thought instead of doing
- 1:05an album, we wanted to let you all know that we're back in the
- 1:09listening groove. We'll give you an album at the
- 1:12end of this episode. But since we keep mentioning
- 1:15this poster and then self-awareness shaming ourselves
- 1:20that we should do an episode about this so-called poster, we
- 1:24figured we would start off season 2 with talking about the
- 1:28poster and how we came about this podcast.
- 1:31So we'll start there. But before that got to go to
- 1:36YouTube and watch because or see because I'm sporting my Barber
- 1:43Cuts sweatshirt. That's a little elf got me for
- 1:48Christmas. So thank you to Riley the elf
- 1:51for my Barber Cuts sweatshirt. It is been nice and toasty.
- 1:57So that being said, let's talk about this poster.
- 2:02So do you want to start the story around?
- 2:06I mean, I, I guess I can. So there is.
- 2:13This all will make sense, I promise.
- 2:15There is a store in Knoxville on a street called Gay Street
- 2:22there. Galaxy long, long ago, far, far
- 2:27away. It's a street called Gay St.
- 2:30It's it's in downtown. It's where you can like walk and
- 2:33everything. And when the parents come up to
- 2:37visit my brother and I, we like to go there.
- 2:41And then over there is also like a little farmers market.
- 2:44So we kind of just wander around around downtown and there's this
- 2:49wonderful store called Bliss. Shout out Bliss on Gay St.
- 2:55Side note, I also got a coat there that I always get
- 2:58compliments on every time I wear it.
- 3:00So shout out with, Yeah, but we were wandering around and
- 3:07Something that is important to note, but also embarrassing, a
- 3:10little embarrassing to admit, is when people go shopping with me,
- 3:15specifically my family, I am like, hard to please, I guess,
- 3:21when picking things out. So specifically Brother Pod's
- 3:27goal is to like wander around if it's a women's store, which
- 3:31Bliss kind of is, and find things he thinks I like and
- 3:36he'll show them to me to try to get me to admit that I like
- 3:39something he picked out usually. And he tells it better than I
- 3:42do. But apparently my catch phrase
- 3:44is, oh, I saw that and then nothing else.
- 3:50And that's like that's, that's. And we've all heard this.
- 3:54Yes, or the one that I I give to Mama pot a lot is Oh, I like
- 4:00that for me, no, for you. I did that one or what?
- 4:09I apparently I'm just like picky when it comes to stuff.
- 4:12So we were running around the store and he's looking in like
- 4:18the clearance sections and like the random Knick knack sections
- 4:22of the store. And it comes across this
- 4:24clearance poster that's called like greatest or bucket list
- 4:30album, which I think is important to note.
- 4:34I'm not sure if we've mentioned that a lot of the albums we've
- 4:37listened to are considered some of the best albums of all time.
- 4:42That's not necessarily what the poster it was.
- 4:45So if there's some albums that you're like, I don't think
- 4:47that's been on any list of like the best albums, it may not be.
- 4:52Or it's way way down the list. Yeah, they it's well, first of
- 4:57all, it's not like buy an official music program or
- 4:59anything, so let's be aware of that.
- 5:02But also they only do one artist or this poster only does one
- 5:06artist and not all of them are like the best of all time.
- 5:10They just have something unique and special about them that
- 5:12makes them worth a bucket list listen.
- 5:17So I've. Noticed with some of them that
- 5:20the album they chose for the artist is not even, you know,
- 5:24quote UN quote the best or what I would tell people, hey, this
- 5:27one, go listen to this one, you know.
- 5:30Yeah, it's kind of like I think of that with the Pink Floyd one.
- 5:34We listen to you and even The Beatles like The Beatles.
- 5:38That. Abbey Road and Dark Side of the
- 5:40Moon are both iconic albums and so that's why they got listed,
- 5:45even if personal opinion or like the majority opinion is like,
- 5:49you know, I can't remember anything other than the the
- 5:53wall. I don't think that's the album
- 5:54the. Wall the.
- 5:56Wall, OK, A lot of people think the Wall is better, and I can't
- 6:03remember The Beatles. Sergeant Pepper is better.
- 6:06But I mean, it's hard to say that those are necessarily more
- 6:10iconic quote UN quote to most people than darks and the moon
- 6:15happy Rd. So those are the ones I'm
- 6:16thinking of. But I'm like kind of reading all
- 6:19of this on the back of like this little box that has this poster
- 6:22in it and it's supposed to be like scratch off art.
- 6:25So after you listen to 1, you scratch it off.
- 6:27Go on. And I'm like, this is really
- 6:30cool. And Leslie like audibly goes,
- 6:33yes, like because he found something that I liked.
- 6:38And so we end up getting it. And I'm like, I really want to
- 6:41listen to all of these like things.
- 6:43And so I kind of got the inspiration to try to listen
- 6:48through all of them and give them all a chance, more than I
- 6:51had before. And then.
- 6:56And then I said, I'll listen with you, like, OK.
- 7:02And so that really started even, you know, to back up even
- 7:07further, you know, I guess you've always liked music.
- 7:15And then so as I mean, our whole family likes music.
- 7:18You know, we're not musicians. You know, I've played
- 7:21instruments in high school, but not since then.
- 7:26And so we like music. We like listening to music, you
- 7:30know, but you and I often times when, especially as you got a
- 7:34little bit older, I, I can't remember exactly when it
- 7:36happened, but at some point in time, we would start having in
- 7:42depth long conversations about songs, about artists.
- 7:46And then, oh, this artist said something about this other
- 7:50artist and their music. And this one sounds like this
- 7:53one. And have you heard this?
- 7:54And it even kick started even more as you start to get, you
- 7:58know, go for for those that go back to season 1 and listen to
- 8:02the Reliant K episode where you can talk about where you started
- 8:06to form your own likes and dislikes of music.
- 8:12And so even in that. So that was neat to sit there
- 8:16and have those conversations with you.
- 8:19However, it was not as neat apparently for the rest of the
- 8:24family because they would all of a sudden go, oh, they're at it
- 8:29again and walk away or tell us to leave because they were
- 8:34watching TV or doing something. And we have now interrupted.
- 8:38And they knew that we could potentially go on for long
- 8:42periods of time before somebody finally said, all right, y'all
- 8:46got to be quiet. Yeah, which honestly, kudos to
- 8:50them for like, I think they do a good job of like, recognizing
- 8:56that it's kind of a neat thing that we have.
- 8:58And So what will happen almost every time is like, Brother Pod
- 9:02will like stick in it for a little bit and then he'll like
- 9:05tap out and Mama Pod and him will go off and do something
- 9:09else. And they'll kind of say they
- 9:10will say like, you can have this time, but like leave or we will
- 9:15like, because we want you to have it, but we don't want to be
- 9:18a part of it. Yeah.
- 9:19And and just so you know, just another example, I guess it was
- 9:23over. Was it Thanksgiving when y'all
- 9:24were home when we played the board game?
- 9:27That with the microphone? Oh yeah.
- 9:29Was that Thanksgiving? And I mean, we hadn't recorded,
- 9:32I guess really since then or didn't talk about it.
- 9:35But so I guess it was Wesley that I had the game and
- 9:40basically it was guests. You know, you have this foam
- 9:45microphone and then you flip over a card and the card shows a
- 9:50word and then first person to sing a song with that word in
- 9:57the lyric wins, you know, gets a point.
- 10:01And so we we started going through this and our listening
- 10:06group would be happy to know that Riley won every round.
- 10:10The only time it got fair and that she did not win was when
- 10:20yeah, you lost by like what, 2 points?
- 10:23Maybe. I mean, it was close, but it was
- 10:26when all three of us were on the same team and we got like a
- 10:31second head start with the word before we put the car down.
- 10:34So Riley could say like it was still close.
- 10:37So she is the lyricist with a lot of songs.
- 10:41So that was that was fun. And and again, just so, you
- 10:46know, like the rest of the family plays along.
- 10:47They love music. So it's it.
- 10:49But when we start talking, they they tend to bow out pretty
- 10:52quickly. And and so I said, yeah, I'll
- 10:55join. And so that's really what what
- 10:57kick started it. We said, hey, let's listen to
- 11:01this. Our goal was to listen to one
- 11:03album a week. We started that.
- 11:05We got through I believe 7 albums and then.
- 11:10I think it's also, if you ever thought we were doing this just
- 11:14to get famous for making a podcast, we did for a while.
- 11:20We had no plan of doing any of this.
- 11:24We did just it was a good excuse with me.
- 11:30Like I've been away for college for a long time, but we're all
- 11:33super close in the family. But I mean, like music is where
- 11:38you and I like really connected. And so I think it was a lot.
- 11:44I don't want to, I don't know how to like word it right, but
- 11:46it was a lot easier to like call a Mama pod and tell her all like
- 11:52the drama that's going on and you'd be in the background and
- 11:54everything like that. But it was harder to like find
- 11:58points where I could like directly dedicate time to talk
- 12:01about music, which is what we really bond over.
- 12:04Yeah. Like in a semi formatted way to
- 12:08where we both kind of knew what the conversation was, right.
- 12:12And so that's initially what it was, was a way for us to kind of
- 12:17dedicate time to our relationship and father daughter
- 12:24time. Yeah.
- 12:26And so we started listening to music and, you know, got 7 or so
- 12:32in and, you know, I was like, I wonder if we could record these
- 12:39and release them as a podcast. Not that we thought anybody
- 12:42would listen. And Riley said yes.
- 12:48And so here we are. So we've got this poster that
- 12:53we're going through. So we have a YouTube channel.
- 12:58So Riley, are you going to get the poster hanging around you
- 13:02somewhere? So Riley's leaning back and
- 13:05getting the poster. So we got all, you can see all
- 13:08the scratch off circles. So what's it say across the top
- 13:10100 albums? Bucket list. 100 albums bucket
- 13:16list. So I will say it's a little beat
- 13:19up and if you notice, hey, they've listened to quite a few
- 13:22albums and they're not scratched off.
- 13:24Are they lying to us? Keep in mind, when I said it was
- 13:27on clearance, none of the scratch offs work.
- 13:32So that's why it's a little beat up.
- 13:36It's because I was trying to figure out if any of them
- 13:37worked. They don't.
- 13:39So we just kind of use it as a guideline and we go as if we're
- 13:44reading a book across, but they don't scratch them off.
- 13:49Yeah, so there we are. So that's our little poster
- 13:55list. It is there.
- 13:56We got, we got 100 of them and we started up there top left,
- 14:02which was Dark Side of the Moon. Crazy start.
- 14:07Yeah, and now we're going to the bottom right, which is going to
- 14:13be a long, long time for here. So let's do a spoiler alert and
- 14:16see if anybody remembers what's the Blast album on our poster.
- 14:21All mod cons by the jam. Never heard of them.
- 14:26We may we may switch that around so we'll have a better like into
- 14:32the poster. Although that could be an
- 14:36awesome album. But it could be but another
- 14:40spoiler when you have Fat Boys Slim on the same line.
- 14:43There we go. There we go.
- 14:46Yeah, there you go. You never know.
- 14:48On our poster there's all kinds of different ones.
- 14:51It it is I've I've noticed heavy rock genre so far.
- 14:57I think we're we're, which doesn't bother me, pretty.
- 15:00Soon. Yeah.
- 15:02I I do I. Will teaser with the current
- 15:06album that we're going to start listening to to open Season 2.
- 15:10It is not a rock album. It's not so, yeah.
- 15:16So any other? Like.
- 15:19That's that's that's kind of how we.
- 15:20Got to the. Podcast we just.
- 15:23I will do. It so had had we, like Riley
- 15:26said, if we were out after fame and money and all those things,
- 15:30we probably would have planned it a little better and probably
- 15:33started with an episode like this.
- 15:36We also have. Microphones now, Mike.
- 15:38Yes, we got. Microphone better?
- 15:40Yeah, hopefully we sound better and so we we would have figured
- 15:45all that stuff out, but we just, you know, we just enjoy the
- 15:51music. So we started right there and
- 15:53figured some of the other things out as we went along.
- 15:56So hopefully we got a couple of improvements sound wise.
- 16:02We're going to try and do the do the a lot of the sound stuff I'd
- 16:06produced after the fact. So we're going to try and put
- 16:08some of that stuff in live now. We're also going to go to a a
- 16:14programming note every two weeks because producing is difficult.
- 16:20Chopping up and making us sound as good as we do is.
- 16:24Difficult and. We'll.
- 16:26We'll be honest, or I'll be honest, we talked about it
- 16:30before. We felt like doing it once a
- 16:34week was kind of tainting some of our opinions on the music.
- 16:39Yeah. Because even if you love an
- 16:41album there, there can be some level of fatigue to listening to
- 16:45it. The like, I I don't know if
- 16:48we've ever talked about this. We.
- 16:50Don't know fatigue when I listen to 10 over and over.
- 16:54Again, that's different. That's different.
- 16:56OK, but but I don't know if we've ever explained this
- 17:01either. We don't listen to the album
- 17:03once and then talk about it. We listen to it a lot throughout
- 17:07the week to prepare and kind of come with notes, some better
- 17:11than the others, and like talking points about this music.
- 17:15So I was kind of discovering that that ended up being like
- 17:22the only thing I had time to listen to were these albums.
- 17:25And so I was missing out on some of the music that I really loved
- 17:28on my own and I was missing out on.
- 17:34I was focusing so much on discovering one album that I was
- 17:37missing out on discovering a lot of music from artists to that I
- 17:39did love. And I would like click and find
- 17:42out that one of my favorite artists had released something
- 17:44like 2 weeks or three weeks earlier and I had no idea.
- 17:47And it was that part is also important to me.
- 17:50And so I feel like with all of that in mind, listening to it an
- 17:56album for two weeks and being able to space it out a little
- 17:58bit more and really enjoy the music and not get us tired of it
- 18:01might right allow us to have a little bit more accurate
- 18:07discussions. Who knows, maybe I would like
- 18:09John Lennon. Probably not but you.
- 18:12Know. The, and the other thing that
- 18:16two weeks does is it allows us to, if we ever want to throw in
- 18:22something different, you know, we, we talked about doing this
- 18:27every week. It, it was, we listened to him
- 18:30enough to where if I'm not mistaken, like our Spotify
- 18:35Wrapped for the end of the year was like all these albums or you
- 18:39know, it was just these albums because we again, we did listen
- 18:42to them so much. To if anyone good.
- 18:44Opinion on it so. If anyone knows my ratings for
- 18:48these albums, you'll know the well, it wasn't that crazy, but
- 18:53the borderline despair when Abbey Road made it to like one
- 18:56of my top listen to albums. It was like an identity crisis
- 19:00of mine. I was like, that wasn't even my
- 19:02favorite one that I listened to, but that was one that we we
- 19:06talked about on our own and then re recorded it.
- 19:09So I I went through the week of listening through it twice and
- 19:13it was I like had this whole identity crisis.
- 19:16So I was like, I don't like what in the world happened, but it's
- 19:21funny. I do also think it's important
- 19:23to note there are 100 albums. That does not mean we're
- 19:30necessarily stopping after we get through these 100 albums,
- 19:33luckily. What you mean you got to keep
- 19:38keep going on with this? You got to keep talking to your
- 19:41daughter. Oh man, I know.
- 19:46But yeah, so luckily for us, everyone has a different
- 19:49opinion. There's a few that everyone
- 19:52agrees on, but they're like The Rolling Stones every year comes
- 19:56out with new ratings for what they think are the best 500
- 20:00albums. There's also this album or this
- 20:05list only plays one album per artist.
- 20:07But like we said, The Beatles have like all of their albums.
- 20:11They were the most iconic albums of all time.
- 20:13And same with like the Wall by Floyd and a lot of these other
- 20:16artists have a lot of. So there's those to go back to.
- 20:22And then also we have a lot of albums that we think are iconic
- 20:27or should be deemed worthy of that.
- 20:30So some of them might end up just being our opinions or if
- 20:34any of y'all send in one once we get kind of through the bulk,
- 20:37we'll figure that out closer too.
- 20:39But do not fear, there's not a deadline as there is on our
- 20:44poster. Yeah.
- 20:46And so hopefully we'll also be able to find a couple more
- 20:49guests to come on and and share some other insights.
- 20:52And then also maybe throughout the year, find a couple of
- 20:57different avenues to take instead of just album after
- 21:01album, maybe throw in some breaks with something else.
- 21:06Speaking of which, two things really one we're we're recording
- 21:12this on January 29th, so just a couple of days before the
- 21:17Grammys. So this will come out after the
- 21:20Grammys and so it may be the next episode that we talk about
- 21:25maybe some of the performances from the Grammys, which is
- 21:28always exciting and the. They always snub someone.
- 21:35I I'm almost boycotting them for Noah Khan.
- 21:38Oh yeah? Well, look on the bright side.
- 21:41Your boys got a new He's releasing.
- 21:43Music tonight. Bang, Bang, bang.
- 21:47There we go. So excitement in the Rally
- 21:52Barber household. So, and then the other fun,
- 21:58exciting news is it's it's it's coming up in March sometime, but
- 22:03over at Christmas break, we were able to record a couple podcasts
- 22:08or a couple episodes with our friends over at Assorted
- 22:11Crackers. And so be on the lookout for
- 22:14those. They'll be coming, I think
- 22:17sometime in March. So that's some fun things.
- 22:22So be listening to those to see what the Barber duo thinks about
- 22:31bourbon. And there's your teaser.
- 22:36So yeah, so there we go. All right, so kind of lost
- 22:45without our our little outline, like least favorite, most
- 22:48favorite. Like we're not doing any of
- 22:50that. So I don't know what comes next.
- 22:51So song of the week. So we're still doing this
- 22:55episode a song of the week because we're still listening to
- 22:58music. So Riley, back to the groove,
- 23:03what is your song of the week? And.
- 23:08Now we're testing out our new stuff by like it's about to
- 23:11play. My song is an oldie but a
- 23:15goodie. You all know it.
- 23:17You all. Love it.
- 23:19Jessie's Girl by Rick St. I don't often.
- 23:27You can. Leave.
- 23:28You can leave it playing or turn it up like it's hard to, at
- 23:31least for me to hear. I'll be honest, this is one of
- 23:38my songs that's on my like playlist that I usually skip
- 23:42because it's it's one that I'm not always in the mood for.
- 23:45OK, but I like wasn't paying attention and I didn't skip it.
- 23:49And like halfway through, I think it was like this part and
- 23:54I was like, hold on, didn't know.
- 23:57I didn't remember this song had this in it.
- 24:00And so I went through and listened to it and it's just
- 24:02like I just bopped my head and sang along.
- 24:08Horrible premise, very funny premise.
- 24:13But essentially like this whole thing is him just being in love
- 24:17with his best friend's girlfriend.
- 24:21But there we go and. Just saying he wants her.
- 24:25And it's just, it's such a good song, such, I don't know, a
- 24:31classic to fall back to it. I wouldn't say it's anything
- 24:35like revolutionary. It's so good at the basics that
- 24:40it does. Which is a lot of times what
- 24:45makes a great pop song. So many of your pop songs are
- 24:49not like, you know, ones that will hit a super high list, but
- 24:55they're just so good at just the basic structure of a song that
- 25:01it's just that good. And I mean honest also his his
- 25:06use of his voice. It's when he like he goes from
- 25:12being quiet and then he just was like burst with like this
- 25:18emotion. And the, the part where he goes
- 25:21like the, I just know it like, and he's like almost like
- 25:23scowling at like this image of saying this girl in love with
- 25:28his best friend. And it's just, I mean, it's
- 25:31honest, I guess. I, I think if I was Jesse or
- 25:35knew that I was supposed to be Jesse, Well, two things.
- 25:40If I was a man and I knew that I was supposed to be Jesse, I
- 25:43don't know how I would deal with this.
- 25:45If I was Jesse's girl, oh boy, this would be my theme song.
- 25:50If I would play that song, I I would walk like, you know, I
- 25:54would feel myself. I don't think anyone could ever
- 25:56say anything against me knowing that this song was written about
- 25:59me. I don't think anyone could say a
- 26:01single thing about me ever again.
- 26:04I'd be unstoppable. How are you?
- 26:10How about me? So here's mine.
- 26:12You'll you will know it from the first few notes.
- 26:19Oh, oh, brother. So this has.
- 26:23Been your song the week before? No, it hasn't.
- 26:29Please, I hope it hasn't. I don't think it has.
- 26:31No, no, I don't think it has. There's so many Pearl.
- 26:34Songs. Yeah, But, you know, this is one
- 26:39of my favorite Pearl Jam songs. And, you know, like, OK, I've
- 26:44listened to quite a bit, and you just have to listen to it in the
- 26:52background and go. I don't think he knew what he
- 26:57was saying. I don't, you know, I'm sitting
- 27:00here watching the lyrics go by on Spotify.
- 27:03I'm not. You know, they have lyrics
- 27:05there. I'm not sure they really match,
- 27:10you know, so I'm not sure anybody really knows.
- 27:14There's a couple in there that you figure it out and and you
- 27:17can hear, but for the most part this is a mumble along song that
- 27:24you just go with. But you know, we've talked about
- 27:29this this song quite a bit just because it was one of those that
- 27:33it didn't quite get finished for 10 and and so how much better
- 27:44Tin would have been if this song had made it.
- 27:46But here we are. So hey, this my porch.
- 27:51Do what? Replace porch.
- 27:53No, it would have just been added in because they're all so
- 27:58good. Porch is my one of my least
- 27:59favorite. Yeah, I know, I know.
- 28:01Just starts too aggressive. Yeah, yeah.
- 28:04What the? Butt it's like who you are.
- 28:08And listen to that guitar, you know, when you're in college,
- 28:12the fact that porch starts aggressive is very nice.
- 28:15When you're a teenage, you know, 1819, filled with the angst and
- 28:23how the world has wronged you for, you know, really hadn't you
- 28:28know? Or being grown up in a wealthy,
- 28:30not wealthy, loving family. So that's right.
- 28:34So there's there's my song of the week that I will fade out
- 28:40while the guitars go in there. So that leads us to our first
- 28:48album of season 2. So Riley, what is?
- 28:55And now that we have sound, I need to go find us an actual
- 28:58like drum roll to play. But well, yeah, season three
- 29:04goals. An iconic 1.
- 29:07I mean, it may be the most iconic one that we have or we
- 29:15have, yeah, I don't know. Y'all have.
- 29:18Y'all will have to let us know. The next one is Thriller by
- 29:26Michael Jackson. I can maybe next week, if I can
- 29:33set my camera up in a certain way, I could show you all that.
- 29:35I can go up on my toes like Michael Jackson.
- 29:40I do have a picture of me. Maybe I'll use that as like my
- 29:42background. And so here.
- 29:44No, but I can be the toes. I stand on my toes a lot.
- 29:46It's actually very unhealthy for me.
- 29:48Not like on my tip toes, like I stand on the top of my toes,
- 29:51like on the heel, like the toe of my boot is how I stand and
- 29:56it's really bad for me and I try to stop but it's comforting.
- 30:01So one of the things between now and the actual recording of
- 30:07Michael Jackson, we will also need to make sure that Riley
- 30:12goes and watches the Thriller extended cut version video.
- 30:18So everybody my age will definitely know exactly what I'm
- 30:21talking about. We have tried to show this to
- 30:24you before and. When I was, when I was very
- 30:27young. And what happened?
- 30:31I got too scared. So there we go.
- 30:33She's. Not gone back and watched it.
- 30:35So what to make sure that you found some time to watch that
- 30:39before we recorded so we can at least throw that in there too.
- 30:41Because can't have a conversation about the album I
- 30:45think personally without also at least mentioning that video.
- 30:50Yeah. So.
- 30:52Fair. I'm a big music video person,
- 30:54so. There we go there.
- 30:57So we will. You can try and find it on your
- 31:01new site. Go listen to it there, which
- 31:04will share that link to something else we learned with
- 31:08our crossover event with sort of crackers.
- 31:12And so start listening to Thriller.
- 31:17So a like iconic 1980s album, but you know, one of the best of
- 31:26all time. So go listen to Michael
- 31:29Jackson's Thriller show. Your hands, man.
- 31:32Oh well, I mean, it may not be I I I'll have to go.
- 31:37That's me remembering it like I'm I'm thinking and hoping
- 31:41that. It pulls up CD.
- 31:45That's cute. No, no, it was actually probably
- 31:50my second cassette. OK, my no, I think it was my
- 31:57first. And.
- 31:58I think it was, yeah, it was my first.
- 32:00I was thinking what is it Billy Joel innocent man but not I
- 32:07think the Billy Joel 1 was my second one.
- 32:09Thriller was. And I've always said and.
- 32:12It was a cassette, so maybe? We'll see if my opinions had
- 32:15changed. And we'll see if his opinions
- 32:17have. Stayed the same.
- 32:18We'll stay see if it holds, holds holds true throughout the
- 32:23years. So I guess that's all we got.
- 32:28So until next time, I'm Todd. And I'm Riley, and this has been
- 32:34another episode of Barbara.