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Laugh But Not Least Comedian Singer Songwriter Podcast MC Jin · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: Arrow dot Net. It's more than just a podcast, It's
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Speaker 1: twenty different daily choices. I mean, I've been in the
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Speaker 1: to listen to this. I don't want to listen to that.
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Speaker 1: My god, we are picky when it comes to podcasts.
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Speaker 1: That's why we have Arrow dot net A R. R
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Speaker 1: Oe dot Net. Enjoy your exploration. Good morning, how are
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Speaker 1: you doing today?
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Speaker 2: Ero? Great to get to chat with you. I'm doing great.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great here, I am Hi. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: making time.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, dude, because you're the guy that I would
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Speaker 1: love to sit in a Starbucks or just go shopping
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Speaker 1: at a grocery store with, because I mean, you have
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Speaker 1: this eye of looking for not only the weird, but
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Speaker 1: the unforgettable. Because inside your creative soul, you know there's
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Speaker 1: a story in every single person that walks by you,
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Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna pull it out of them
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Speaker 1: because you've got that gift whoa aro.
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Speaker 3: You're the first person to verbalize it in that way,
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Speaker 3: and that's something that resonates with me almost like daily,
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Speaker 3: which is like sometimes to the point where.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, is this more of a curse or a gift?
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Speaker 3: But the way you just put it, it definitely sounds
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Speaker 3: more like a gift than a curse.
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Speaker 1: Don't you have those moments though, when people look at
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Speaker 1: you and say, well, how did you know that about
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Speaker 1: that person? Because they're wearing it? I can see it,
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Speaker 1: And they go, what do you mean you can see it?
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Speaker 1: You just know, and you come across as that person
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Speaker 1: where it's like, if you and I were to meet,
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Speaker 1: you would go, you didn't have to send me a picture.
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Speaker 1: I already knew it was gonna be you when you
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Speaker 1: showed up. You've just got that.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, thanks man.
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Speaker 3: Especially the thing that you just noted about the idea
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Speaker 3: that every single person has a story. Yes, and not
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Speaker 3: only that, but I think it's easy to gloss over
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Speaker 3: some of the stories and the individuals that we deem
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Speaker 3: as like, oh, that person seems like just a passerby.
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Speaker 2: What can be notable about that person? Right?
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Speaker 3: And this can be in the context of, like you said,
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Speaker 3: whether it's in a supermarket, sitting inside of a coffee shop,
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Speaker 3: on a flight, imagine on any given flight that we take,
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Speaker 3: the you know, the the other two hundred and sixteen passengers.
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Speaker 3: I often just think about this as I'm sitting there
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Speaker 3: boarding or in the gate or on the plane.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, where are all these people going? Or where
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Speaker 2: they all coming from? Right?
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Speaker 3: And like like and and of these two hundred and sixteen,
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Speaker 3: which one is the serial killer that.
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Speaker 2: I need to keep eye out. I'm just saying, you
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Speaker 2: never know, you never know.
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Speaker 1: But that is so funny that you say that, because
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Speaker 1: I just talked to this guy about this serial colic
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Speaker 1: killer earlier this week, and we talked about how they
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Speaker 1: have this this innate way of hiding without being seen.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they'll be right there in front of you
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Speaker 1: and we do not see them. And that's what I
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Speaker 1: love about you and listening to your podcast. Oh you
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Speaker 1: see them and you're willing to listen to them, which
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Speaker 1: I'm going, oh my god, I mean that that takes
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Speaker 1: an art form right there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been cool, I think specific to the podcast journey,
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Speaker 3: it's it's new territory for me, it's new endeavors, and
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Speaker 3: it's been a great learning process because nonetheless, for sure,
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Speaker 3: you know, given my music background and just everything I've
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Speaker 3: been blessed to do in the last twenty five years.
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Speaker 3: Having conversations in a setting, in an interview setting is.
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Speaker 2: Not new at all.
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Speaker 3: But I will say there is a very specific essence
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Speaker 3: to the podcast medium, and you know, and I feel
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Speaker 3: like it is a space. My wife has pointed this out.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to her. She's like, you are made for this, right. However,
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Speaker 3: she always has a however with everything, and that's how
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Speaker 3: I know she's on my side, right she will she
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Speaker 3: will lift me up, only to yank me down in
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Speaker 3: the same breash.
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Speaker 2: Her thing is her thing is.
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Speaker 3: However, what you can grow from, particularly with this medium,
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Speaker 3: is kind of being more of a listener, right. And
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Speaker 3: she's not saying that I don't, but she says that,
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Speaker 3: you know, in this particular medium, listening is just as
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Speaker 3: import and as conveying. So I have no issues with conveying,
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Speaker 3: that's for sure. But her thing is listen, Jim, listen.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's just her roundabout way of saying
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Speaker 3: that I don't listen enough at he Oh.
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Speaker 1: My god, you're giving me flashbacks of what it was
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Speaker 1: like to be in television because my producers would be
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Speaker 1: in my IFB and they would go, you didn't hear
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Speaker 1: what he said, get your eyes off your show, crap, dude,
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Speaker 1: and that and that that's what trained me to be
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Speaker 1: a listener. Oh my god, you just hit something right
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Speaker 1: on the head.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great, though, you know it's been great.
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Speaker 3: I think with every guest that I get to chat
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Speaker 3: with every episode, I would like to think that I'm
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Speaker 3: coming out of it a little more polished, you know,
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Speaker 3: a little more sharp. And maybe it's not even about
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Speaker 3: being polished. I think there's also a beauty in the
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Speaker 3: frenziness and the chaoticness of conversations.
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Speaker 2: And that might be the beauty of podcasting too, right,
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Speaker 2: which is.
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Speaker 3: It needs to be structured, but it also can be
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Speaker 3: free flowing, chaotic. So I guess that's the sweet spot
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Speaker 3: that I'm looking for.
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Speaker 1: At least, are you going to take this to a
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Speaker 1: live comedy show or some sort of little playhouse in
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Speaker 1: cities across the country, because this is the kind of
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Speaker 1: show that I want to see live, because I want
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Speaker 1: to see your body asking the questions. I want to
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Speaker 1: see your mind thinking about exactly what they just said,
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Speaker 1: because I know you're going to give me a reaction
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Speaker 1: there's always going to be a reaction, so you get
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Speaker 1: because what is it. It's like, you know, create the action,
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Speaker 1: then get the reaction, then reattract, and reattract again.
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Speaker 3: You you definitely are planning a seed for something that
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Speaker 3: is very explorable. I think the idea of leaf but
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Speaker 3: not least being in a setting where there is an audience,
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Speaker 3: is it is very.
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Speaker 2: Logical. I think.
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Speaker 3: I think the idea of pulling in even people from
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Speaker 3: the audience and coming up and sharing what their journey
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Speaker 3: was because I think the overall theme of the podcast
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Speaker 3: as I chat with the various guests is yeah, you
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Speaker 3: talk about your career, about your love life, you talk
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Speaker 3: about all these things, but it's really mining those experiences
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Speaker 3: for the truth, right, and then once we find the
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Speaker 3: truth of it, the laughs automatically come. So I feel
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Speaker 3: like with a live audience, there's definitely like infinite playing
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Speaker 3: field depending on who shows up to the show, right,
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Speaker 3: Like whether it's the you know, the seventy one year
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Speaker 3: old you know, single dad yep, you know, trying to
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Speaker 3: figure things out you have to come on stage, or
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Speaker 3: the college kid whoever it may be.
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Speaker 2: And you know, especially like you said, given that I'm.
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Speaker 3: Already the guy that's analyzing the supermarket, the coffee.
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Speaker 2: Shop, the pack flight.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it would be such a just just
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Speaker 3: an easily environment to do this in an audience setting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then with you saying that right away,
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Speaker 1: my mind is going, I would love to hear you
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Speaker 1: have a conversation with somebody from the seventeen or eighteen
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Speaker 1: hundreds where they don't have this ability to be an
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Speaker 1: outreach like we are today, because I mean, what did
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Speaker 1: they have farm talk back then? And I just think
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Speaker 1: that you would get even if it was about tomatoes,
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Speaker 1: you would still get an hour long podcast out of
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Speaker 1: how to properly grow and then eat a tomato, because
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Speaker 1: that's what you've got inside that imagination of yours.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if I have not been given any
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Speaker 3: other like you know, quality, right, I'm definitely lacking in
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Speaker 3: the height department, and it looks I'm thinking I think
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Speaker 3: I'm doing okay.
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Speaker 2: I would like to think I'm a solid six or seven.
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Speaker 3: But I will say, if we're talking imagination, oh I'm
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Speaker 3: charting through the roof.
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Speaker 2: If we're talking imagination, yep.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Now let's I mean, one of the
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Speaker 1: things I would love to talk with you about is
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Speaker 1: K pop I mean, have we got to that point
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Speaker 1: now where we can kind of make fun of it
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Speaker 1: or is it still one of those things where K
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Speaker 1: pop fans are going to go, Where are you talking
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Speaker 1: about my favorite music? Don't be doing that, you know.
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Speaker 3: I am I'm partial to both, I understand, I am.
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Speaker 3: I am, so, I'm quite understanding of both sides of
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Speaker 3: the coin.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: So, I myself, I'm a K pop fan. I enjoy kpop.
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Speaker 3: I've had a very unique I've had a very unique experience,
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Speaker 3: I would think. So this is me being transparent to
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Speaker 3: you Errow and to all the listeners. I definitely come
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Speaker 3: from the era of Once upon a time.
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Speaker 2: I used to look at all K pop groups like Bro.
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Speaker 3: They all look identical, they all sound the same, it's
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Speaker 3: the same fashion choice.
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Speaker 2: They're just pumping them out in a factory. Right.
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Speaker 3: So my turning point was in twenty nineteen, I got
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Speaker 3: to participate on a reality show in China. The show
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Speaker 3: is called Producer one on a one and in that show,
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Speaker 3: the premise of the show is they were launching a
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Speaker 3: new boy band in China. Right, So I guess instead
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Speaker 3: of K pop they would call it Sea pop, right,
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Speaker 3: Chinese pop, But the premise of it is all the same.
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Speaker 3: The premise of it is how do you form a
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Speaker 3: superstar boy band? I will say that participating in that
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Speaker 3: show opened my eyes to the kind of efforts, passion, diligence,
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Speaker 3: and sacrifice required to achieve the heights that these guys
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Speaker 3: are achieving. And when I say these guys, I'm talking
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Speaker 3: about the whole playing field. But if let's just say,
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Speaker 3: let's talk about the cream of the crop. Let's talk
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Speaker 3: about BTS, right, And to your point of you know
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Speaker 3: the fandom they call the fandom. That's like, don't talk
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Speaker 3: about my group, right, Like I understand, I understand why
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Speaker 3: people hold so tight to it.
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Speaker 2: It's the equivalent of a Knicks fan, right. Like a
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Speaker 2: Knicks fan, we're also or.
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Speaker 3: Any or any or any fan of any entity or
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Speaker 3: group that they live, breathe and die for.
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Speaker 2: So it's the same thing.
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Speaker 3: So point being, Knicks fans are not much different from
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Speaker 3: BTS fans. And I say, if they were to join forces,
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Speaker 3: oh forget about it.
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Speaker 2: That's world domination.
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Speaker 1: You brought up BTS. Have you tried the new BTS
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Speaker 1: Oreo cookie that's on the market, right now.
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Speaker 2: I have not tried it, but I'm sure that Jude,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that I'm sure that the Army right shout
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Speaker 2: out to the Army.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure they've definitely cleared the shelf from any stock
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Speaker 3: that's available at any grocery store.
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Speaker 2: So that's one thing about.
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Speaker 3: The power of be it the Army or the K
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Speaker 3: pop fandom in general, is that they will support both
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Speaker 3: with action and spirit.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I mean, it's undeniable.
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Speaker 3: You can't deny the tickets they're buying, the products they're buying,
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Speaker 3: and hey, I salute to them, salute to anybody that
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Speaker 3: puts their money where their mouth is, because it's easy
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Speaker 3: to be like, hey, that's my favorite group, or that's
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Speaker 3: my favorite team, that's my favorite player, but to actually
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Speaker 3: put action behind that, who nobody can refute that. I mean,
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Speaker 3: these guys are selling out stadiums like nightly.
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Speaker 2: The Oreo cookies are flying off the shelves right so.
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Speaker 1: Please Shanna move. There's more with mc gin coming up
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Speaker 1: next the podcast. Laugh but not Least we are back
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Speaker 1: with mcgin. I think that today's artist, you are not
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Speaker 1: anybody until you have your own Oreo cookie. I mean,
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Speaker 1: because it seems like that everybody's getting their own Oreo cookie,
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Speaker 1: and I mean post malone. I mean we we ran
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Speaker 1: out of those, like in fifteen minutes because everybody was
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Speaker 1: all over those things. So we got to get you
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Speaker 1: a gin. We got to get you an oreo cookie.
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Speaker 3: I'm working on the arrow. I don't even need the
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Speaker 3: whole cookie. I just need God no, I just need
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Speaker 3: the I just need the cream in the middle. That's
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Speaker 3: what people eat anywhere.
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Speaker 2: You're right, Oh my god.
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Speaker 1: The one of the things that is so inspiring about
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Speaker 1: your podcast is that is that it's it's really interesting
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Speaker 1: in the way that Jayalen had enough courage to step
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Speaker 1: forward saying that the Johnny Carsons of this modern world
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Speaker 1: are your podcasters. And when you go in there and
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Speaker 1: you listen to your show, And because I watch Johnny
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Speaker 1: Carson every night on Antenna TV because I want to
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Speaker 1: study his walk and way, I just know that he's
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Speaker 1: a master at that. And so when he said that
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Speaker 1: about Johnny Carson, I'm going he needs to listen to
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Speaker 1: Jen and we need to get him a link to you,
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Speaker 1: because you do bring on a wide variety of people,
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Speaker 1: just like Johnny Carson. You're very calm, you get the story.
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Speaker 1: Everything about you is it's about telling the story.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, hey, I'm definitely I might
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Speaker 3: have caught the tail end of mister Carson given.
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Speaker 2: The age, the era that I was born and grew
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Speaker 2: up in.
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Speaker 3: But I'm very much familiar with Johnny's you know, pedigree
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Speaker 3: and legacy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and it's all the lineage is all.
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Speaker 3: There, so you know, I would say what's more prevalent
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Speaker 3: to my growing up? And definitely I remember watching as
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Speaker 3: a kid the obviously the Leno era, there's the late
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Speaker 3: and then and then as you move on, whether it's
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Speaker 3: the Leno Letterman era, and obviously I mean I'm a
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Speaker 3: huge Arsenio Hall kid, right, so I'm very much you.
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Speaker 2: Know our Sinio I'm you know.
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Speaker 3: And then even later on, as in my adulthood, I
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Speaker 3: love Conan. I even think the way Conan kind of
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Speaker 3: like interacts with guests. So for myself, man, the Beauty
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Speaker 3: would be able to sponge off of every single one
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Speaker 3: of these.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I even have a little Jerry Springer in myself.
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Speaker 2: I would like to think.
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Speaker 3: All I need, All I Need is one episode of
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Speaker 3: the podcast where I bring in like an audience or
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Speaker 3: maybe yeah, if it's ever a live show like we
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Speaker 3: talked about earlier, if the audience starts going yep, EBC,
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Speaker 3: I've been.
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Speaker 1: With our Sinio Hall. That dude is the most He
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Speaker 1: is the warmest, most caring. He's the most compassionate person
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Speaker 1: you will ever meet. And when you shake his hand,
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Speaker 1: I never in my entire life shake the hand that
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Speaker 1: is so soft because he's always putting handlation on it.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. He makes your moment together because he
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about our sinio. Our senio wants
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Speaker 1: to talk about you. And that's what I love. When
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Speaker 1: you put him in there, I'm going, that's you, that's you,
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Speaker 1: Jan because you want to talk about the people that
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Speaker 1: are inside that studio with you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for that arrow, thank you.
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Speaker 3: And that's something yeah, I think as I continue along,
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Speaker 3: that's something I'd love to even be more mindful and
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Speaker 3: implement even more so. Yeah, because you know, it is
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Speaker 3: easy when I'm talking with the person if the topic
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Speaker 3: becomes something where I feel like, oh, I have an
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Speaker 3: anecdote that I can bring, and I think that's the
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Speaker 3: point of it, right, It's finding the ones that are
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Speaker 3: worth sharing. But then for the most part, you don't
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Speaker 3: want to center it like repeatedly on yourself, like on me, right,
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Speaker 3: So I do get that, but I also don't want
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Speaker 3: to I don't want to disservice myself and not share
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Speaker 3: an anecdote that's worth sharing or that falls into the
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Speaker 3: topic right, simply because of that concern.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I think URSINEO.
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Speaker 3: Hey, anybody that could sit on a couch face to
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Speaker 3: face with Mike Tyson and survive it? Like so oh, man,
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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine having I can't imagine having iron
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Speaker 3: Mike on left, but not least that I might not
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Speaker 3: be able to sleep the night before the session? True?
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Speaker 1: So true? Who's on your wish list that you got
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Speaker 1: to put it out there in the universe and just
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Speaker 1: allow the universe to bring it all together, because if
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Speaker 1: you go hunting for it, you know how it is.
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Speaker 1: Who is this again? How many times is it going
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Speaker 1: to be? On where you're calling from? But so, so,
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Speaker 1: what who's on your wish list that you would love
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Speaker 1: to have share a conversation with?
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Speaker 3: Here we go, here's my three all right, in no
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Speaker 3: particular order, And these are all three individuals that I've
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Speaker 3: actually met before. I've met, I've shaken hands with, I've
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Speaker 3: taken pictures with them, so the idea is actually not
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Speaker 3: far fetched. So the first one is President Barack Obama, Yes,
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Speaker 3: a former president, BARACKO.
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Speaker 2: Obama. All right, that's one.
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Speaker 3: The second would be mega action star Jackie Chant oh yeah, okay,
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Speaker 3: seg and then the third one, well, the third one
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Speaker 3: is a little.
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Speaker 2: Is a wild card.
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Speaker 3: I think the third one I would love to sit
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Speaker 3: and chat with. There's an actor, an iconic Hong Kong
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Speaker 3: actor slash director who I've met and got to work
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Speaker 3: with before. He's very elusive though, by the name of
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Speaker 3: Stephen Chow. Steven Chow, that's his name. And he's directed
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Speaker 3: a bunch of like really like cold classics and I
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Speaker 3: guess you could say international hits.
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Speaker 2: So one is called Shallon Soccer.
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Speaker 3: He's directed a movie called Kung Fu, so yeah, so
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Speaker 3: he's a he's a he's.
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Speaker 2: A Hong Kong based, Hong Kong actor director. So so
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Speaker 2: I just.
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Speaker 3: Don't know how realistic getting him on a podcast would
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Speaker 3: be because he's.
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Speaker 2: One of those like lockness monster and I say this.
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Speaker 3: Respectfully, he's like one of those lockness mons, their type
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Speaker 3: individuals like you don't see them out and about. You
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Speaker 3: don't see him doing press for the most part, right,
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Speaker 3: But that would be my kind of my uh dreamless.
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Speaker 2: Three individuals that I've actually crossed paths with before.
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Speaker 3: So we'll leave it, we'll leave it out there in
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Speaker 3: the air, and then we'll see what happened.
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Speaker 1: But see, that's what I love about podcasting because anybody
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Speaker 1: anywhere in the world can listen to what we're talking
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Speaker 1: about or what you're talking about on your podcast, and
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Speaker 1: they're gonna hear something like that, and they're gonna go,
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Speaker 1: let's put this together. Let's let's do it.
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Speaker 2: Let's let's put it again.
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Speaker 1: Because I never thought I would ever talk with Julia Cameron,
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Speaker 1: who does the artist way, who has changed millions of
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Speaker 1: people's lives around the world, and then one day someone said, nice,
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Speaker 1: you want to talk to Julia. What do you mean, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you want to? Uh yeah. So it's like put it
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Speaker 1: in the universe and let it, let it grow.
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Speaker 2: You got to, you got to.
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Speaker 1: That's what I love about what you're doing, dude, because
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Speaker 1: you're doing it. You do it organically, man, And where
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Speaker 1: can people go to find out more about you? I
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Speaker 1: mean the entire you, not just the podcast, because there
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Speaker 1: is more to you than that microphone.
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Speaker 3: Correct, So I think the standard fare. Of course, I'm
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Speaker 3: on all the socials. So my Instagram is I am
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Speaker 3: mc gin all right, and I'm on IG, I'm on X.
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Speaker 3: My YouTube channel is as an mcgen. I will say,
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Speaker 3: you know, the very very very like thing that I'm
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Speaker 3: proud of, a passion project that I'm proud of. Not
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Speaker 3: too shameless, plug because there's no shame in what I'm
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Speaker 3: about to say. I recently, I recently released a forty
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Speaker 3: minute stand up special that I self produced and self orchestrated.
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Speaker 3: And as they say, if no door's opened, build a door.
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Speaker 2: That's what I did. I built this door. I built
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Speaker 2: this door.
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Speaker 3: The special, it's actually called the title of it is
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Speaker 3: called Gentle Writer.
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Speaker 2: Gentle Writer, and it's a playoff of just some context.
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Speaker 3: So when I got my record deal back in the
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Speaker 3: early two thousands, it was with the record label Rough Riders,
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Speaker 3: home of the late great DMX, Right, So the special
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Speaker 3: really is me unpacking what that journey looked like.
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Speaker 2: What did it look like.
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Speaker 3: Having a rap dream as a kid, getting the record deal,
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Speaker 3: kind of watching it fizzle out even so, Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: it's called Gentle Rider is the name of the special
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Speaker 3: and it's on YouTube. So if you I suppose, if
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Speaker 3: you just type in my name mc gin and then
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Speaker 3: you type in gentle writer, it would be the first
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Speaker 3: thing that pops up.
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Speaker 2: I'd love for people to check that out.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's just another kind of small milestone, particularly
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Speaker 3: in the stand up comedy journey that I have embarked on.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 1: Please come back to this show anytime in the future.
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Speaker 1: Jan The door is always going to be open for you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Eron will you be brilliant today?
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Speaker 2: Okay man, thank you, thank you for the conversation. All
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Speaker 2: the best, all the best with everything you are doing too.
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Speaker 3: M