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Smash or Pass: Book Tropes · Moms That Read

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the moms that read podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Kaylee, and I'm a Kinsey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And today we have a fun episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's gonna be called, book talk, smash your pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna be talking about tropes, like the chaotic, the ones we love, sometimes controversial, and we are gonna decide if we love them, or if they're gonna go in that D&F pile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We even asked you guys around Instagram, some of your favorite book tropes, and then we put a little poll whether people would smash our pass,
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[SPEAKER_00]: interesting results.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They come up in a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone is such a different reader and it comes across and like what y'all like is troops, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like me personally, I have different standards for romance and fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what I like in fantasy, I wouldn't do it in romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like what I like in romance is not necessarily what I want to read in my fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay, I have to see that I never had about it that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I didn't either until I was looking at these and I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that in this fantasy book, but I did not like that in this romance book through it probably might not like come across the same way, I feel like it's like done the same way right before you end in that we're gonna talk recent reads what have you been reading I
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[SPEAKER_00]: like, not normal for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I started the ice continued on in the legends of Thessmore by Helen Cher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're not going to have a bubble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but it's called about the Bows and Ruin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's four books on this series and it's really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I texted you the other day about the burning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Feral for Walter Hawthorne.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She said it was like the first season of Bridgerton when they're in that like in room and he's like bad for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is what happened and I was like at the breaks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm unwell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see I'm only seeing the first season of Bridgerton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't watched past that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched the first three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the first two are taught here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love that them, but I also love Anthony Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, I didn't know the book, Tom Bro, I don't know what it is, but I mean, I mean, I don't know something because I love him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And something, and something, please, feed me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just downloaded, sometimes I'll go on Libby and I'll just get like happy, winks looking on the audiobooks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have audible, but I just like to get a little bit and see what's available.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I am listening to catch her if you can by Tessa Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is a baseball romance, it's like fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it also, I don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The two books that I am choosing to read right now, both started with their eyes locked and they knew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, because the trouble with love, because he sees her eyes locked, um, we're also reading an arc of the trouble with love and cudges, but that's for something special coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, bye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one, there are eyes locked when they were teenagers and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they've had each other ever since, but now they're like, she's 22 and he's like 26 and they still he is down bad for her, but she's not giving him the time of day because her friend called him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, this could go either way, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's going to be like the sure thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's an, and he's Irish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he started talking, I didn't know research into this one at all and he started talking, I was like, oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just came to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she just got custody of her sisters, two kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have no idea where the world is now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the third chapter, and I'm like, wow, this is a ride already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy, so for three chapters, that's kind of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With Tessa Bailey, you know, sometimes you never know what you're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And her books are always either really good, or I hate them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how this one goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just internally giggled because I looked down in your listening speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In chapter three is one place I've been with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I started out a little slower than I tried to start out at 1.5 and then I was just like, can we, I will say in romance books sometimes, I feel like they talk slower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And well, in this one, they're talking a little bit slow and I can still understand the Irish accent at 1.7.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they must be talking slow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really impressive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I imagine going back and listening to something on one and feeling like um like that's what I used to listen to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I used to only listen to it on one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you listen if throwing a glass on one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably started it out that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like because that was probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's one of last was not the first true audio book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was about to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I listened to like the King of the Wise series, trying to think on the one, it was probably 1.25.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt's wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is wild stuff, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I had to train my brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've conditioned myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and now I'm on 1.6 base.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then at the end, what I'm like just ready to know what happens, I'm bumping up to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, now let's get into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the smasher pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My soul pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the first one I asked you guys about on Instagram was the one bed trope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I am here for in hard smash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hard smash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which y'all are also hard smashers for that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With 97% of you saying smash and 3% saying pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm dripping again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is probably one of the ones where in fantasies, I'm like, they have not showered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they are walking across this hot desert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this in does not have running water, probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think I would rather it in a fantasy book go, but they're nasty and they stink in the leather.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're always worth whether or not they're that expensive and y'all out here playing in the dirt like what you mean You know that walk into that end There's only one bed and she is in her mind going oh my god Do everything about if they're like you're stanks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There ain't no way they shave There ain't no way they shave And Sweat in the Netherlands and then they talk about
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[SPEAKER_00]: Going out in the wind beds, and I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, okay, I don't ever think about hygiene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my fantasy world, a hygiene does not exist, or at least I don't think about it, because no one takes the doctor right about it unless they're relieving themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is interesting to me that that's always like added in, because if we're not gonna address hygiene at all, we don't need to talk about taking a break to go to the bathroom unless it's gonna get pertained to the plot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, sometimes I'll be reading a fantasy book and they'll go into, like, I think it was, maybe,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Wolf King or Diabound, one of those two when we were reading them, they went into like bathing chamber and she was like a sat there forever because it was so like good and I'm like you haven't taken a bath in a month.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you have not taking a bath in a month.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, okay, the position I'm coming from is, oh my god, these people have been finding worse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they stay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've not gotten any romance interaction and then boom, one bed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you know what, this is where it usually happens for fantasy readers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the anticipation for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not hygiene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're going to be like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot do teeth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if your breath stinks, and you have fuzzies on, you know they have fuzzies on their teeth, and they're making out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now I have 100% in down bad for a one bed trope either way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fine with it, but like it always runs through my head in a fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been really ill when I like to think that I've gotten up one bed trope and then you don't like you get it, like pull, but they're like, basically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where we thought we got a one bed trope and then he said we just read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, I just read one, but you haven't read it yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I swear long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, it happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a fantasy that we just read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't was it was it the same darkness?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it happened and that just that is my take on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know if you agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have not thought of that yet, I am so sorry to bring that to your attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's like, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to have it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like, I enjoy and kick my mouth out of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When there's a little bit of a drip, especially in a romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's more that I would put up up that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but I do, I do like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and play along, there's one part where they have to share a room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I would share a room with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say her friends, and be so happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm talking about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a long tower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One bedroom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Forced proximity, I'm gonna eat it up every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shrash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you know, but like what is the same as it's the same as the other one wasn't yeah it was 93 So I feel like if you're a one bed you're a force proximity girly right because like for sure Let's try and hand together 38 votes for some match in one of the one happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't my husband.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It probably was my husband Well, let me see if I could kill a better not a vote it on this stuff if he was who's the one pass?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know her?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be asked about her out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like girl, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a forced proximity girl every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, I'm trying to think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in Blood and Steel, there were a couple of times when they had to like be in a closet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, that is the forced proximity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not like in the same room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like stuck in a closet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the third book in the Sarah Adams trilogy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When they were stuck in the closet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, big bars feel they want to sail on their stuck in the closet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because the the sister, yeah, whoever came in and then they start making the closet and I'm like this is what I'm talking about here for sports somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this one is a little bit of a shocker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: really touch her and die or touch her and um 13% said pass um okay i can i will say this is one trope that i feel like can be cheesy it could be done yeah not distastefully but just like um you've known each other for three days and you already want to kill somebody for
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[SPEAKER_00]: When it's like a faded mate or like a I know we're faded or something like that then I understand that more, but like when I read recently was twisted love that is a throwing through touch her and but I feel like that was pushing it into the too much territory just like was done too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and it was, he was too overbearing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It got to a point where I'm like, dude, I don't like you now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's how I fill with resand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, honestly saying, the more we sit on the more I'm like, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I
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[SPEAKER_00]: then next one was who did this to you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You did up every time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eat it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like 20 people said no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I keep talking about this book because I'm, I'd just listen to it, but the blood and steel, like they had not even kissed yet, and this dude did something to her, and he immediately was like, who did this to you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what was a book I read for that interview.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have coming up and she was the one who said who did this to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, wow, you don't ever get a girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, person love who did this to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to, I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen that for a girl either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to figure out all of the name of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that like that is I think I like this one better than toucher and
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[SPEAKER_00]: because that is more of a like, whom I don't beat up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not like a, you're not even looking at her, but I'm gonna threaten you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not kind of like the possessiveness, but I don't know how to say it, you know what I was gonna say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say, I like that, but not for dark room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, it's giving lights out and that's like, and we all know how about the one of my faves is not one of my kinti space.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll challenge her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is the one person that said they didn't like enemies to lovers?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't be friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The maze to lovers is top tier top, like my number five one definitely top five for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like tearing at each other's throat and then also and being like, I love you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do enjoy, I think what makes me love enemies to lovers so much as the banter that it brings because they just tear each other down so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what I love enemies to lovers in real life, absolutely not because I would get my feelings entirely to hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because I am a cancer and I cry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm an area's on the one hurt in the feelings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm the one crying in the corner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd be the enemy, I'm the enemy of the enemy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So will I hurt somebody's feelings if I have to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But typically it ends in me crying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: myself, my feelings are my feelings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will say that like I
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like every fantasy is a typical enemy solvers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so usually with romance, I like it better because like the fantasy is different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think with the friends to lovers, I don't like the life's communication behind that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the part that bothers me about friends to lovers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's my problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I understand it kind of because they're like, I don't want to ruin the friendship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bryce with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also say everyone wants to ruin the friendship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in the friendship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I get why they would be hesitant, but also just to talk to each other if I were beefy, I would have hints that you like each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, in that Sarah Adams book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cheat sheet, the cheat sheet that I read, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could, it was obvious they both like each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it was like, hello.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You might teach other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Literally how I felt the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm like please the Lord stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm brother's best friend is one of my favorite tropes like top two brothers best friend single dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that might be top two I know brother is best friend agreed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love a single dad, but we'll just have that in a sec Best brothers best friend or best friends brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're one of those they're interchangeable to me one of my favorite 100% top five
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[SPEAKER_00]: love anything with a brother's best friend trope you can just go ahead and put that down like what do people like if they don't like that you know like what are your options i don't know what are you reading because i'm always reading friends best right yes like brother's best friend best friends brother lay every time either one of those like it is interchangeable
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[SPEAKER_00]: but only 81% said that they didn't, that they liked it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other 19% said they didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so sad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can give you some book wrecks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise they're good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to remember like not everyone reads like, we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you read a bad one, just to message me, and I got you, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know what you, like I like to know what people think are bad books, and I like loved them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love those conversations, because I'm like, let's, like, we saw this differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can be in you with lights out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% we have different beliefs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, a love triangle, hate, hate, hate, lose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Entirely, literally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am the Grinch when it comes to love triangles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only love triangle is so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we so far?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Same one that I've liked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Say it's where.
17:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the only two little triangles we have liked because you like this one too is say you swear in the wolf king.
17:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, mainly because we don't know what's coming.
17:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the two exceptions right now.
17:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say I will one would say you swear.
18:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I just like the fact that I felt so unsure about what I found the whole time is why I don't like love triangles, but when one of them is made out to be the enemy, I like that.
18:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do like that kind of, that's what, and then die around, is it not kind of also a love triangle right now?
18:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It is right now, or it was, but I don't like that one because if I have to
18:29
[SPEAKER_00]: both of the MMCs to be into it.
18:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you make me hate one early on and then introduce someone else and she's kind of interested in both when obviously one is a douche can do and you know they don't end up together.
18:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Then that's when I'm like, oh.
18:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not for me.
18:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why did you wait so long to give me the real one?
18:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
18:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's like the wolf king and say you swear, they were both introduced in the beginning and you genuinely have no idea where this is going.
19:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And well, say you swear, I've already finished it.
19:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So I knew I know where it is going now.
19:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the meantime, like what I first started reading it, I was texting Megan.
19:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I actually
19:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the two exceptions.
19:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't like love triangles, if you're of the 78% that voted that you hate love triangles, you're then try those to promise that you will like them, um, because we are not generally big fans either, no, no, insta love, I'm reading two books with insta right now.
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I will not read a book with Insta love.
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I will immediately DNF it, blah, blah, blah.
19:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't DNF it, but I'm just like, this is a noxious.
19:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I, it's not a deal breaker for me, but it is not my favorite trend.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But I will say that I also,
19:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Because honestly, would you consider faded mates, instead of, yes, and everybody else faded mates, but everybody hates instalum, unless they're not aware, maybe like my problem is always aware, that's true, but see, then that creates yearning if the other one does not, which is what I love, I love a good yearning.
20:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Love a good yarn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's debatable.
20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love a good yarn, but that whole if you hate and still love, but love faded maids Please tell me how they're not the same Because they are the same I would like to but like for they with the Ashley loving each other completely with their faded maids or is it like
20:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like there's some things where it's like, they are enemies to lovers.
20:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they finally do come together like I always think of quick silver.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you always know that they're going to be together in the end, like at the end of the book, because they're faded.
20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of them all, even if they pretend like they don't, one of them always loves the other.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's relatable.
21:04
[SPEAKER_00]: What am I thinking?
21:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then they
21:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no, no, no, they are fated mates, but they're not install love.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they?
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit of an amnesia.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit of an amnesia, a little bit
21:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the one redemption arc I do not want.
21:32
[SPEAKER_00]: She did it enough with this, so we don't need a redemption arc for anyone.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's on, no, and he don't need a body.
21:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He don't need that body.
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: If he ends up with a lane, that would be why.
21:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm like, I'm backing this whole thing that because did she say that the mate bond does not have to be reciprocated?
21:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, I don't think a lane and Lucien are supposed to be together.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: who's Lucian's supposed to be with, then?
22:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm having to remember and recall.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that isn't he supposed to be with one of those Valkyrie girls?
22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Gwendolyn.
22:12
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Gwendolyn as a realer's supposed to be.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is that what that, I wasn't thinking of then?
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm calm.
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's a lane illusion though.
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the other one though.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I know what you're talking about.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, once the next one, once the next one, third act break up.
22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it happens in literally every room.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I get thoroughly excited when there's not a third act break.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, I am just like, thank you to the author.
22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish there was less third act break ups.
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like you can come up with a different reason for them to separate or like, even I love it when they,
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: have an issue, but works through it without breaking up.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Would you say that you would also put into that category, like third act issue, like it doesn't even have to be then breaking up, like I feel like it's not a third act, it should third act break up that I feel like in there in the third act, there's something going on that is like testing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but fine with that.
23:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
23:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I just hate it when they break up for absolutely in every sin for two days.
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that is a giant like you could have talked that out.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You could have had one conversation because that goes back to like it would have been a good question.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope to.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like third act break up and miscommunication your hand in hand.
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% because that's usually what happens.
23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you can definitely have a third act like issue and then more through like actual adults in a relationship correct not unless you're a character is in like binding 13 when you're 12 so yeah that would track.
23:40
[SPEAKER_00]: When when we had an issue with our significant others, did we break up with them?
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Or did we work through it?
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Like adults.
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: We worked through it like adults.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: We did not break up.
23:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We did not break up.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and um, to the, 17% of you who like third act breakups, I would love an explanation.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a while, they were like, well, I'm not even a book, but just like justify that for us, please.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Please, we'd love a good judgment.
24:06
[SPEAKER_00]: No judgment.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a justification.
24:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Just curious.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because I'm, I'm not getting questions.
24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And to the 5% of you who said you liked the miscommunication tropes, why?
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: We are judging on those terms.
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We're judging on this one because what do you mean that I'm in communication tour?
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that pickup is maybe okay.
24:28
[SPEAKER_00]: That's more just communication.
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be enough a book from big miscommunication trip in theory aiding because you're just like hello and you can tell when it's going to be a gigantic miscommunication trip to And I'm just coming in and you're like hmm, I was speed.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a Lucy scorebook.
24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the worst miscommunication trip.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Ever read in my life and it was about like it was literally H.G.
24:55
[SPEAKER_00]: TV in a book and they were building a house and building a house And I was like, oh, this is so cool because I used to love Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, every time it was a tie Yes, yeah, um This was just like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh Now giant miscommunication trip the whole time.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave it to stars.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was so bad.
25:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It was rough It was a good story, but she ruined it reckless F.MC
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a prime B6% said pass.
25:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, past, if I didn't have to, but in fantasy, I feel like it is almost detrimental to the plot because at some point, like when the when the FMC is reckless, they find something out about themselves or they discover their powers or whatever can be this certain way, I think it is a, it's necessary for the plot, but the whole time I was just saying they're like,
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you this way just getting through your heart's goal that you are not invincible?
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's necessary unfortunately the next one is your absolutely favorite trope I feel like this is sarcasm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is sarcasm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, accidental pregnancy I Will say I hand upon him young.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I did like out on a limb
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the only one I got for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 28% said smash.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Ew.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind it.
26:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I said it'll pregnancy trope.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind it.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That in single dad's, it's not mutating that bad.
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm just, you, this is going to sound so awful.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so awful.
26:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: People have a child just to like remind you all that I'm not too child.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but I'm trying to like give myself some street cred here that I'm not about, that's just like it.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little, when I say that I don't want children in my
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I feel like most of the kids I read about are like super cool though, but you know, it's funny, I end up liking and like loving the books that I read that have the children and them like Julia livias, if it makes you happy.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Across the ocean sky is the single mother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely tore it up.
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I like I end up loving the books.
27:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But while like just being told, don't tell me that it's in the book, you know?
27:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
27:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Just don't tell me there's a kid in the book, and then I'll write it.
27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I love it, though.
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it because when you see a man being a good dad, true.
27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's also hard.
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And doing all the things you want from a book, boyfriend.
27:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a good dad.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a good dad.
27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, that's daddy.
27:39
[SPEAKER_00]: That's daddy.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That's daddy.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Daddy came out daddy got daddy Malkai.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay Malkai roads Those are my tongue too I'll get back to you.
27:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then could you have there a little bit more mature too?
27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and then when you have a single mom And the dad steps up to be the dad for a child.
28:01
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not his.
28:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dad.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: That's also daddy daddy dex
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: and banishing sky.
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And he has glasses.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, Daddy, I'm here for that.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: See, I'm changing your mind.
28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Daddy, just don't tell me about it beforehand.
28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I won't like even think about it.
28:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just read it like normal.
28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, if you're like, hey, this is a single data like in the past.
28:25
[SPEAKER_00]: What about a fake dating?
28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, um,
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I lied.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my number one term.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my number one.
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd even might be higher than enemies to lovers.
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
28:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I love a good vague dating story like bake slash practice dating everything about it.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Like teacher student not like an actual teacher student.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me rephrase that.
28:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me
29:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me rephrase that.
29:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, my teacher ran as a dude.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in practice makes perfect.
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And she, he was teaching her how to date.
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was going to do.
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Both considered to indulge.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: With an age range.
29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't.
29:20
[SPEAKER_00]: She loves her good age gap, but not the age gap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of age.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: My bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reconvening.
29:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the day dating.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like sometimes, honestly, talk to your top to your top to your superior is when they have to fake date and they are enemies.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that so much.
29:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I love skis.
29:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Or when they have to get into a marriage and marriage of convenience.
29:49
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna love freaking play along when you get to it.
29:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really want you to start reading it soon because they have to be in a marriage
30:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Chef, she hates him.
30:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.
30:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's always like, I love it when you're meant to make any.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And he calls him Penny.
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what my husband calls me.
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Please.
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just, you just need to skip caught up.
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're next week, my life will go back to normal and I will have so much more free time to read.
30:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I've not read hardly anything.
30:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes me, Penny.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: OK. Just love me, Kennedy.
30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's read here.
30:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I love a good FMC with red hair.
30:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's her micro trope.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my micro trope.
30:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's relatable.
30:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, duh, Ariel's my favorite princess.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Should you talk about age count?
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind an age gap.
30:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have put that up on the, on the, on the stage.
30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to know how many people love a good age.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people live in age stories afterwards, because I'm really curious.
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people live in the age already.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're in the minority, but I think a lot more people live in age gap than you think.
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do I love, okay, what about like an extreme age gap, like what's your
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I loved, wait, or wait, um, Willa and Cade.
31:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You just made a relationship, and I'm gonna... Willa and Cade, and they were 13 years.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
31:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think that would be my match 13 years, but I think in the last one of this one wild card, I think it is no, she's over one the purple one that is where I draw the line where she is his son's ex girlfriend.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's weird to me because like you saw your son date her.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's like a lot of fun.
31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Questions.
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: If you love that and that is your cup of tea, I am thrilled for you and that journey, but that is not for me.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that is where I draw the line.
32:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if anything weird like that, then I'm like, hmm, no, that's, I feel like that's like understandable.
32:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just.
32:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like age jumps.
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't mind it.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It does not bother me in the slightest.
32:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like it.
32:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's because the plot.
32:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my mom, my mom, one of her husbands was, my mom has been married multiple times.
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry mother, um, one of her husbands was like 14 years older than her.
32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's normal for me.
32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: They married eight years.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so like that's probably why it does not bother me very much.
32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brandon's almost three years older than me.
32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but an edge gap is whatever.
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: When it gets 15 years plus that's when I'm a little like, um, you were in high school when she was born.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I always think of you have no.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like when you say a job.
33:14
[SPEAKER_00]: twisty games, there's 10 years, 10 year.
33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, crap.
33:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:19
[SPEAKER_00]: See, if it's not a part of the pot, then it doesn't bother me.
33:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's just like, hey, these people, this is person, is older than me.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we just continue life.
33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Love that.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It does not even, I don't even think twice about it.
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like the brother, like the the sun's eggs, they end that I think that would be weird.
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: That is when I am just, you know, not it.
33:39
[SPEAKER_00]: That is when you I exit the situation.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I am good on that.
33:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm about to slow burn.
33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it, so I want it to almost be a freaking just like Amber in the wind because I don't mind if there's a fast burn I don't mind there's a slow burn I'm fine either way as long as whenever you're a fast burn you're not going at it like bunny rabbits the whole book, you know.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: that it was a fast burn.
34:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, and then some books you read, something will go down in the first chapter, and then it won't happen again until the end.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and so like in out on a limb, uh, the deal, like yeah, literally when I first read the deal was like, you, why are we talking about care Graham?
34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And then immediately King.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, I do, I do, if it pertains
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you so excited for GetRam to be a daddy in next week?
34:39
[SPEAKER_00]: His book comes up next week.
34:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's up, Gary Graham.
34:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we did.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Daddy, we did.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But if it is a sniper in there, then I won't.
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: There to be all of the tension.
34:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, tension.
34:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to keep the all of the tension.
34:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I won't them to literally brush fingertips.
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe like, oh my God.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Literally literally, I mean, listening to Blood and Steel and Vows and Ruins.
35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: When I was reading the safe darkness, and he pinned her hands above her head while training,
35:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I guess every time something was like about to happen.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean literally he didn't even kiss on the cheek like nothing in this book and but there was so many times And I was like and then nothing like I could I was reading the book and I could like cut the tension with the knife and I'm like that is what I want
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: that is what I want with a slow burn.
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't care if nothing happens for the whole book.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to want to yell at you for making nothing happen for the whole book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to be a question to ask her, like, what's your problem with slow burn?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to gotta be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why's it gotta be that slow?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'll be that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was so well done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about for a bit in love?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's something that we don't see a lot in romance,
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[SPEAKER_00]: fantasy and we don't want to think about forbidden love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think all the Taylor Swift song And she's like a Romeo take.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah story for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's that was burning daylight Which was literally a recreation of Shakespeare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about morally gray?
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[SPEAKER_00]: every time every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my, I also kind of like a morally gray FMC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love, when we don't get a lot of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really like them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he commits a crime for me, I'm obsessed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, sir.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Kines, sir.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I thought you would like dark brown hands.
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of conflicting emotions about hoat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like I would, I want to love that book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but there was something, so I was like, girl, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The plot did not attend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like every connection to Peter Pan I thought was fantastically done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was 20 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like 26.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that big of a deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More so that like, first time, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she immediately fell in love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like there was a part where it was given a little bit of stock comes in drama.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they made a joke about it in the beginning of the book, and I was like, that's funny, is that going to happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: and but then immediately forgave him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, girl, she had a lot of, I feel like you have to have to look past things in dark romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, for this book, honestly, will look past that, because I just really thought the plot of the book was really me and I really liked the tie in to Peter Pan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought that was and I just imagined hooked from once upon a time the whole time I was reading it and he is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what about when he
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it depends on the situation, okay, hear me out, hear me out let me defend my flabbers have been gassed it hear me out, I love that if they're like if it's when they're still enemies and they're like fighting but the tension is growing and they're like flirting a little bit and they like slide that in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have issues because I love it anytime, anytime, I don't like he says good, that makes it, I'm crrenched out of book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When we are not the same, okay, what do you really like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when I'm reading it, I'm like, why are you talking so much?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not me, can you believe me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because this is why I like dark romance this might be my problem because like indoor cramets I feel like that is like a huge trope that's used just yeah so much But when they call attention to it, that's when I'm like stop
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about a hand on the throat moment?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Smash, smash, every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mackenzie, you are a puzzle that I'm not getting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, I think it's the words thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the words, because I'm telling you, with their fighting, like with this book that I'm listening to, he makes these little jobs at her that are kind of in your windows like that, that I love, but they've like taken this
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the moment, in reference to a five-ingered necklace, I'm sad, for sure, I'm upset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like, you can get a news words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I don't like, though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And ice-clean FMC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like where she is just so like cold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would get a lot of that in fantasy too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have a different definition of an ice queen because in play a long Kennedy is referenced as an ice queen, but I didn't think she was an ice queen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think she was closed off, closed off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she was an ice queen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she was closed off because she had been hurting the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all I see it to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's, is it reckless from Elsie Silver, Winter is an ice queen and her name's Winter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is what I would say the definition of an ice queen is, where you're a be odd for no reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, see, I don't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's my definition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, no, that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about pet names?
40:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Ma'am, I already don't like price today, but I already don't, I already got problem with price.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't mind my mind it when they come up with like a nickname or something for them, but I feel like nicknames and pet names are different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and hooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He called her pet and all that eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little much.
40:57
[SPEAKER_00]: He called me at a British accent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if that's like a British thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even, I'm not even going to show you what he was saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please try.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was always used for the worst times, and it was combined with praise, so that just was like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely adore Catherine Cowles, but I hate her pet names.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, reckless, sparrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like very chaos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like this woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you like a woman like that's not like a that's not weird name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a nickname.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't I don't see that as a pet name.
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I see that there's more of a nickname.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like I said like Isaiah called her Kenny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't my blood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that doesn't bother me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like some nickname, some pet name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't want to listen to this though, but what about grumpy sunshine?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love a grumpy sunshine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fun fact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I learned what a grumpy sunshine was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You did not know like grumpy sunshine was until wake up like three months ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what I thought it was originally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he thought it was either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, okay, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that it was like, they were grumpy and then they turned sunshine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, both of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like they like transitioned from grumpy to sunshine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not like one grumpy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that because I was like, yeah, he's the grumpy and she's she's the sunshine.
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And you were like, wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's two of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What they're separate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a kind of sentence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, they technically go from ChromeBritis on China, but I completely misunderstood that trope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Start to finish, misunderstood it.
42:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're gonna do a quick little mom reader additional smash or pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ready?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Feel free to answer with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reading is so too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am knowing your child wakes up at six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Smash, I, every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not two a.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do stay up until midnight on the, um, for a communication.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm neglecting my sleep habits, it's to read and all to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I'm just like, I'm just gonna work better than on a clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna read midnight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Midnight, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if I'm hooked and I'm almost on with the book, I will stay up until whatever time to finish it, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Buying books instead of reading one's URDM.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Same as much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know, but I didn't challenge myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I read the current physical books that I have recently bought for my TBR and I'm halfway through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm set proud, but like I'm like actually getting the worth, like the value of my money that I've spent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now, like I don't want part of daylight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, maybe you can take it to second in trials to sell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a pretty addition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, hiding a book delivery from your husband.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When we come back from me, go lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will go brown bag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should be popping to my guess room where my book is and or my non-existent book is my book stacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just said it in there, we don't talk about it because it's usually when they're asleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, I have a good excuse because I buy books for the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, I guess when we go to like E-Line or like that book fair we're going to into I'm taking cash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking cash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heck yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, Caleb will probably do that to encourage me to only not spin this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What he knew right I'll turn off my level way little do you know is I have my card in addition to the cash So catch us just like Ignore our bags of those book fair because I'm gonna be unwell again audiobooks while doing laundry every time ever I'll literally sweep before seven times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I tell us money about lean just to listen to my idea book
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, does it mop on the regular me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, who started mopping on over there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't hear me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to because the kids, but I'll just plop in my audio that do laundry and go clean my floors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, those dishes look dirty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me wash them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me fold the four towels in there takes me an hour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you listen to smart in the school pickup line?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, you're in a tricky track in the line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I am picking her up, but like when I'm pulling into school, sometimes I'm just like volume three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, just in case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I close out all my abs before I go into school because you won't catch me slipping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I catch myself slipping in the cheek flow I drive through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know they get it right about to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: one time I pulled up to a red light and I was listening to it and the person next to me their window was down and I kind of just looked over like try to make eye contact like do you hear what I'm hearing right now like how much can you hear we need to experiment one day and just like drive next to each other and see how much sleep you can hear yeah for sure I'm valid playing on a normal volume that we have it on a crying over fictional man I cry over fictional characters all the time every time
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I haven't cried in a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was almost going to cry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't relate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cried at the end of caught up and play along and I didn't know what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just loved it so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cried.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cried reading booklovers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't cry reading booklovers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I relate to her and I have closed off those traumas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I don't think I cried.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's shout out to her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, starting a series, you know, will emotionally ruin you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a pass for me.
46:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, you started binding 13.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did it for the pod, and then I had to finish the second book, because I would, I'm not a goolean kind of girl.
46:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I know ahead of time, then I'd be like, nah, I'll pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pass on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that concludes today's smash up past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please let us know if you agree or disagree with anything, especially the miscommunication trip people, like I really need to to like hit us 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I need to know what is going through that beautiful
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[SPEAKER_00]: because I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not connecting with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We would like to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But next week we're doing book talk, yes, no, maybe with popular book talk books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So tune into that to see what we think or if we think all of the book talk books circulating that we have read are worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.