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Best Of The Bus: Coach Matt Rhule’s Expectations For Nebraska + His Thoughts On The NIL World · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Game on. I mean, I don't have to lose with that.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. First question, coach,
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  Speaker 2: what game? What game was there? If we die, we
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  Speaker 2: die speech?
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  Speaker 1: That was that was Illinois, I believe, Yeah, waiting to
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  Speaker 1: ask you that. No, No, it wasn't Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: That was Michigan. Does your players seem to think it
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  Speaker 2: was Michigan?
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  Speaker 1: You have to show it to me.
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  Speaker 3: What y'all saying? What y'all saying that there that dies,
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  Speaker 3: that die?
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  Speaker 1: Is that not you?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Is that not you? Yeah? Yeah, illis Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we're bringing the banger. If we died, we.
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  Speaker 1: Died there, if we would have lost the game, I
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  Speaker 1: would have died. No, yeah, yeah, strategic yeah, Michigan, Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Michigan probably was more like the halftime speech. And then
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  Speaker 1: the next day the next day we went out. Next
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  Speaker 1: day we went out and said, all right, you a
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  Speaker 1: don't want to play on Saturdays and we'll play on Sundays. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that's before we knew they had our signal. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that's why we lost, but like before we knew
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  Speaker 1: all the kind of controversy around the games man, we
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  Speaker 1: went out there Sunday night. We had a Friday game
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night. There's my boy Jay led over there. He's
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  Speaker 1: got he's got like canned footage of like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was I'm talking about how long? How long we
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  Speaker 1: go for an hour and a half, like full play,
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  Speaker 1: like guys out there defense talking trash of the offense,
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  Speaker 1: like like literally twenty four hours after we just played Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: and and I said, if you don't want to play
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  Speaker 1: on Saturdays, you know, we get down, We're gonna just
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  Speaker 1: kind of roll over. Then we'll play on Sundays. And
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  Speaker 1: we played, and then we went Friday night to Illinois
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  Speaker 1: and we beat Illinois. Yeah, so what.
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  Speaker 3: Did the players know that they were going to practice
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  Speaker 3: on a Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the coaches didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: No one knew, No one knew.
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  Speaker 1: No. I literally spent the whole day kind of going
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  Speaker 1: back because you know, you don't want to overreact, right,
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  Speaker 1: But we had had the Colorado game. The Colorado game
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  Speaker 1: was our second game of the year, tough loss, first
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  Speaker 1: game against Minnesota, the second game of the year thirteen seven,
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  Speaker 1: with like seven minutes left and we lose thirty six.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen kind of got away from this and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'm trying to teach them come back. We
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  Speaker 1: beaten Nord Illinois, beat LA Tech, playing Michigan, get down
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight to nothing, and it's like, ah, darn it,
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  Speaker 1: and just I'm not here to have guys.
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  Speaker 3: Know.
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  Speaker 1: I love these guys too much to let them say
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  Speaker 1: all darn it. So I went back and forth all
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  Speaker 1: day and then finally I was like, what would you
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  Speaker 1: have done back at Temple before all the before all
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  Speaker 1: the stuff right before you know, everyone's watching what you're
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  Speaker 1: doing back at Temple and we had the Hassan Reddick's
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  Speaker 1: and the Dion Dawkins and all those like real dudes.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what we've done back then, we'd have
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  Speaker 1: gone out and practiced. And so we went out there
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  Speaker 1: and what I saw was these guys come to life.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why you know, we went out. We beat Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: we beat Northwestern, we beat Purdue. We went a little
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  Speaker 1: three game three or four game win streak, three game
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  Speaker 1: win streak, so we got some winners here. Just but
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  Speaker 1: literally it was just like me and my heart back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. What should I do? As a coach? You
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  Speaker 1: have to get up there and present, like, you know
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing. But sometimes you're like, man, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to do right now, because you you don't
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  Speaker 1: want someone to get hurt. You don't want do the
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  Speaker 1: wrong thing, but you also want them to know that
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  Speaker 1: you expect more from them other than just if we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose, we're gonna lose, but we're not gonna We're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna lay down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that? Throughout the year? Obviously you're not
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  Speaker 2: feeling the expectation of Nebraska and the fan base and
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  Speaker 2: everything else and falling short of like being bow eligible,
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  Speaker 2: especially when you had a couple of games there at
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  Speaker 2: the end to to do just that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were five and three. You know, it's five
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  Speaker 1: and three to finish five and seven, and it's like
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  Speaker 1: anything else. Man, it's a double edged sword, right. My
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  Speaker 1: heart really hurt for the for the older guys, right,
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  Speaker 1: like they have been through so much and some of
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  Speaker 1: them came back just to help us get to be
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  Speaker 1: bow eligible, to be the team that brought us back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm out. I'd walk down town students and say, coach,
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  Speaker 1: I came back for another year because I want to
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  Speaker 1: go to a Bowl game. Like so I felt that
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  Speaker 1: not for me, not expectation even just how much the
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  Speaker 1: players would put into it, and to lose twenty to seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: and then to lose thirteen to ten, and then to
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  Speaker 1: lose in overtime, and then to lose thirteen ten on
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  Speaker 1: the last play to walk off field goals. My heart
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  Speaker 1: hurt for those guys, cause I really really really appreciated
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  Speaker 1: those guys. With that being said, sometimes you can go
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  Speaker 1: six and six. You can go to a bowl game
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  Speaker 1: and go play in a nice bowl game. Being a
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  Speaker 1: team you should be finished seven and six. Everybody's walking
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  Speaker 1: around smiling like we have like an intensity about us,
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  Speaker 1: We have an urgency about us that we might not
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  Speaker 1: have had have we gone and gotten at both the
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  Speaker 1: PlayStation from the bowl game, a nice little job and suit.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there's some positives, but we didn't get
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  Speaker 1: it done.
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  Speaker 4: That shows, though, you can tell because y'all going five
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  Speaker 4: and seven and still being one of the top, having
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  Speaker 4: one of the top recruiting classes.
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  Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think, as you see this place,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, and again, facilities don't what do facilities do?
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  Speaker 1: They tell you that football is important here. Base tells
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  Speaker 1: people that football is important here. And so we work
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  Speaker 1: our tails off. We work hard in recruiting and just
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  Speaker 1: to get people here because I think once you get here,
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  Speaker 1: like you walk around Lincoln, you go downtown, you see
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  Speaker 1: the campus, You're like, oh, snap, like this is a
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  Speaker 1: really really cool place. And so you know, the highlights
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  Speaker 1: came it just stay just turned on the highlights. That's
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  Speaker 1: but you know what. But honestly, like I think the
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  Speaker 1: big thing is all along players can see like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: my history at Temple, you know, being two and ten,
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  Speaker 1: then being six and six, and then back to back
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  Speaker 1: you know, top twenty five teams, go back to back
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  Speaker 1: conference champions, you know, top twenty five a different times
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  Speaker 1: of the year, Uh, going to Baylor being one and eleven,
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  Speaker 1: then being seven and six and playing in the Sugar Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I think people realize, hey, this is like a coach
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  Speaker 1: will try to build it the right way, so to
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  Speaker 1: be five and seven maybe outperformed. So I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of young players are like, all right, I see it.
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  Speaker 1: I see what they're trying to do. I see how
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  Speaker 1: they're doing it, and I think we're just gonna continue.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna continue to crew.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what do you feel like you've learned the first
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  Speaker 2: year coaching being the head coach at University of Nebraska.
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  Speaker 1: That you know, when I took this job, I was
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  Speaker 1: very uncertain, you know. I was very like, nah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you just get fired. You're a little scarred, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't really know. I'm a Northeast guy. I
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  Speaker 1: was very uncertain, like, you know, not in a bad way,
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  Speaker 1: just like in h And my wife was like, that's
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  Speaker 1: the job. That's the job. Go to Nebraska. That's the job.
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  Speaker 1: Go to Nebraska. So like two weeks in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: cause I was living downtown, my family, my kids were
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  Speaker 1: finishing school, I called her. I was like, as usual,
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  Speaker 1: you were right, like this is a great place. Like
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know how good the people were. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a place and you know this,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a place where like sixteen minutes before
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  Speaker 1: the game, everybody's in the stands watching warm ups like
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  Speaker 1: they oh, they they loved the players so much that
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  Speaker 1: they want to watch even the guys who aren't going
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  Speaker 1: to play, they want to watch them warm up. This
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  Speaker 1: is a place that like after the game winner lose,
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  Speaker 1: is going to stand up and cheer for you probably
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  Speaker 1: cheer for the opponent. So it's football done right. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I love the game of football and this
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  Speaker 1: is a place that loves football. So it's like the
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  Speaker 1: perfect match for me, perfect match for my family. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that I think that we can be what
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  Speaker 1: we're expecting to be.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think that's what made your decision easier to
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  Speaker 4: leave the NFL and they come back to Nebraska.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they made the decision for me when they told
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  Speaker 1: me to get my as your your key card will
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  Speaker 1: not be working anymore.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: But but in all seriousness, you know, I had I
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  Speaker 1: had a chance to go be an assistant coach in
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  Speaker 1: the in the NFL, the New York Giants, and had
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  Speaker 1: an amazing experience, you know, worked with the old line,
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  Speaker 1: the guys like you know, Chris Snee, Dave Deal, David Boss,
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  Speaker 1: like all these great dudes. And I was a young
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  Speaker 1: assistant coach. Being a head coach in the NFL probably
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  Speaker 1: was was it really for me? Like I love players,
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  Speaker 1: and you're caught there sometimes in like you're the guy,
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  Speaker 1: you're cutting guys. You're the guy, and some guys probably
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  Speaker 1: can do it way better than me. Some guys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe like a Vrabele or someone who's played. I struggled
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  Speaker 1: with coaching you, coaching you and then cutting you. I
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  Speaker 1: you know, I struggled with my family not being a
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  Speaker 1: part of it. Like last night, if you'd have been here,
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  Speaker 1: the whole team. We have dinner in the hawks indoor
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  Speaker 1: players tell them, invite their families, Invite their girlfriends. Coaches
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  Speaker 1: invite everybody. You know, my daughters are walking around. My
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  Speaker 1: wife knows, not just our players, their girlfriends, their families.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's college and it's just a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: how I'm wired. It's a little bit more relationship built.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, when when when Carolina didn't work out,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, you know what, Hey, I I took
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  Speaker 1: a shot at this. It was a great experience. But
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  Speaker 1: I really love college football, and this is a place
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  Speaker 1: that I believe does college football right. You know, we're
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  Speaker 1: not we're not using players. We're not we're not bringing
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  Speaker 1: them in if they're not good enough, throwing them out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is a place that really wants to
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  Speaker 1: develop guys, and so that kind of matches who I am.
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  Speaker 3: So did you did you always feel like you was
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  Speaker 3: going to be a coach?
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  Speaker 4: I know, playing linebacker at Penn State and then being
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  Speaker 4: a GA at Penn State. Right after, did you feel
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  Speaker 4: like this was your calling to be a coach, being
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  Speaker 4: around young men, developing them, developing them and giving them
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  Speaker 4: the opportunity to be players in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: From the time I was from the time I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, five, six, seven, eight years old, I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be a college football coach. It's my wife
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  Speaker 1: sometimes she'll say to me, like, man, you're so lucky,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know what you want to do your whole life.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my dad, my dad's a minister, and he's
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  Speaker 1: also but he's also a high school teacher and coach.
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  Speaker 1: My uncle's in the pennsylvani high school coach is all
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  Speaker 1: the fame. Like my whole life, I always wanted to
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  Speaker 1: coach and coach college football. You know. I never wanted
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  Speaker 1: to coach high school, never really wanted to coach the pros.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be a college football coach. And I
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  Speaker 1: you know, being at Penn State, being around Joe Paternal
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do that. And so being here now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, through the through the journey of Temple to
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  Speaker 1: Baylor to Carolina here, you know, being at a place
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  Speaker 1: that when I walk in every day I watched walk
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  Speaker 1: by five national championship trophies. That's that's something. When I
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  Speaker 1: was eight years old, I couldn't have even comprehended.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about the spring league that you've introduced this year.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a talk of a couple of my group.
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  Speaker 1: Chats really positive negative positive, a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Like all this is interesting. But dudes talking like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's something that it's something that changes it up during
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  Speaker 2: the springtime.
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  Speaker 1: You know, spring can be there. Yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: tell you what it is. You know, I just I
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  Speaker 1: was sitting there one day and I kept thinking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the history of Nebraska, Tom Milesborn. You know,
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  Speaker 1: multiple drills going on, multiple fields going on. So we've
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  Speaker 1: always tried to do that. You know, in basketball, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can go play summer league, right, you
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  Speaker 1: can go play AU when you're not in season. Baseball
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  Speaker 1: you can go play Wooden bad league. And football you
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  Speaker 1: basically just lift, you know, So how do you get
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  Speaker 1: better at footballer than playing football? So you know, we
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  Speaker 1: have three quarterbacks. We have Heinrich who won the starting
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  Speaker 1: job halfway through the year. Unbelievable young man, gonna get
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  Speaker 1: better and better and better. We have Danny Kalin, the
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  Speaker 1: lead eleven quarterback for forty five minutes down the road,
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  Speaker 1: Dylan RelA just you know, on the top couch in
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  Speaker 1: the country. So we have three guys that want to
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  Speaker 1: be the quarterback. And I started thinking about like reps,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, man, we have enough, Oligneman, We
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  Speaker 1: have enough of this, We have enough of that. What
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  Speaker 1: if we just divided the team up into thirds and
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  Speaker 1: we just played football? Because you know, when when I
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  Speaker 1: was growing up, when you guys were growing up, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we had video games, you know, but like you guys
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  Speaker 1: probably had phones. I didn't, but like we still went
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  Speaker 1: out played attle lot. A lot of my guys like
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  Speaker 1: they don't they dodn'tally grow up playing They might have
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  Speaker 1: played a little basketall. They play a lot of football.
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  Speaker 1: And so let's play, let's put the ball down, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's have officials, let's let let's just play the game
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  Speaker 1: and not just do drills. And so that, with a
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  Speaker 1: creative staff, turned into the bug Eaters, turned into the
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  Speaker 1: Rattlesnake Boys, turning the old gold Knights, taking the old
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  Speaker 1: team names, and like it's crazy, like you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: tell your guys to be leaders and guys like nah,
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  Speaker 1: I try to keep to myself. And then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden I named someone a GM. Hey, you're the
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  Speaker 1: GM of this team and that team doesn't perform, He's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting cut tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Hey if you don't know you, like, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you see, let this level of competitiveness come out and
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  Speaker 1: our guys. So it's been unbelievably fun.
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  Speaker 4: And we heard like you involved the injured guys as
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  Speaker 4: being the GMS to keep everybody interacted with with the team.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's great, like to do something like
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  Speaker 4: that because let alone, sometimes when you injured, it almost
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: felt like the coaches never talked to you.
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  Speaker 3: Not so I think that goes a long way too.
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  Speaker 2: So I was watching a couple of a couple of
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  Speaker 2: highlights back there. I saw you, come on, make that tackle.
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  Speaker 2: I okay, I want to I don't want to jump
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  Speaker 2: around asking you about this. But a big reason why
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: you came here was Trev Alberts. What was it like
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  Speaker 2: the day you got the phone call that he was
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  Speaker 2: going to be moving on A and M.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Trev had been really cool with me
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  Speaker 1: and kind of talking to me about it beforehand, like hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is out there, this could happen, you know, for me,
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  Speaker 1: for me. So when what it was, I was in Scotland,
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  Speaker 1: I was playing, I was playing. I took my son
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: on like a little golf trip. My son's a golfer
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  Speaker 1: and you know, was graduating high school. He stayed behind
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  Speaker 1: in Charlotte so that I could take this job. He
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, so I took me and him father's
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  Speaker 1: son trip. And I was coming down thirteen and my
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  Speaker 1: phone rang and it was trev And I picked it
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  Speaker 1: up and I was like, oh, dang, all right, well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'll call you later. I appreciate it. Then I went on,
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  Speaker 1: I had go ahead, go ahead and knock that that
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  Speaker 1: little bar in a little something. But but in my world,
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  Speaker 1: you know of coaching, like people come and go right,
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  Speaker 1: like people move on, doesn't we love them? Like I've
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  Speaker 1: had different coordinators, I've had different coaches, Like players come,
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  Speaker 1: they graduate, players come, their free agents, they move on.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing is always just to
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  Speaker 1: make the most of your time when you're with somebody.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, when I got hired, there was a
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  Speaker 1: president and there was a d that hired me. They're
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  Speaker 1: both gone. But I since I've been here, like this
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  Speaker 1: is home, Like I love it here, Like my wife
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  Speaker 1: opened up a business down in Lincoln. My kids are
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  Speaker 1: in school, they're doing well. My son's coming to be
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  Speaker 1: a freshman here, Like this is where we want to live. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thankfully we hired Troy Dannon, who I've known
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  Speaker 1: since way back at Temple. I mean he's a rock star.
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  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, it was kind of a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a shock, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: How do the decisions like that like affect yours affect you?
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  Speaker 1: Well? I think the biggest thing is, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you want to have an AD. Two things. You want
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  Speaker 1: to have an AD who wants you to be the coach.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you don't want somebody
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: who's like, yeah, he's the coach. But but things get dicey.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I'm moving on and hire my own guy, right like
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: you want to feel like, hey, this is my guy.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Because the one thing I've learned in this job, you
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: can't do this job well if you don't have like
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: a great, great partner and you have to have an
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: AD or a GM or you know whatever who's a
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: great partner with you, and so Trevor was a great partner.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: You know, when I was a Temple, you know, we
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: want a ton against Pat Craft is now the AD
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: at Penn State was like like my right hand guy,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Like we battled through everything together. As a Baylor, mac
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Rose was like my right hand guy. So trev I
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: picked coming here partially because he was gonna be my
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: right hand guy when we lost him. Obviously it's frustrating,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: but I've known Troy, and so when Troy came in
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: the mix, I was like, all right, that's someone that
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: I really believe in. You know, when you win at Tulane,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: like you know how to get things done to win.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: And we were sitting up in Havelock at one of
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: the bars and Hailoc last year, watching Tulane play USC
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: and watching Tulane beat USC and whatever bowl game. It
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: was like, that's mind blowing. So to have that ad
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: here with us, with these resources, I was like, all right,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: we'll be all right.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how much were you involved with that decision with
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: getting him here?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: With the de Troy, They asked me for some feedback,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: They asked me for some names. I gave him three names,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: and he was one of those names, you know, And
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: obviously I'm not. I didn't pick it, you know, Chris
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Koborick was in and President did all the work on it.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: But I appreciated them saying like, hey, who would you know?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Who would you want? I said, hey, there's probably a
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: lot of guys. Here's a couple guys, I know. You know,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: he had just gotten to Washington, obviously getting to Washington,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: going to the National Championship Game and then leaving to
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: come here. That that's hard and it'll be hard for him.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I think it says a lot about Nebraska though, that
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: someone would be at a place like Washington and want
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: to come here. So they were really good to be
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: through of that process, you know, asking me. I'm sure
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: they asked Fred some others, you know, hey, what do
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you think? But I knew that. I knew that Troy
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: was the type of guy that would come here. And
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the whole thing is always like just put this place
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: on steroids, like we got the best of the best.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: But like what we do need to do is like
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: we need to like have an urgency, Like we can't
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: just we can't be five and seven. We we can't
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: be just an average team in the country. This is
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: the University of Nebraska. Like, we're supposed to be here,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: and we're here right now, and so it's not my
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: fault we're here. It's not anybody's fault. We're here. We're
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: just here. But we got to get if it's if
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: we're here in three or four years, then that then
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: is my fault. So having Troy evolved makes me feel
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: really good about that.
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  Speaker 2: card with what Troy get involved too and the stuff
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: that you got to build with Trev What areas do
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you feel like because you got these beautiful facilities? What
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: areas would you say could have been lacking to where
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: it's now? You guys are growing and getting a lot
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: better in those set areas.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what Trev allowed me to do was
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: was go out and hire a big time strength staff
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: with the right amount of people, hire a big time
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: nutrition staff with you know, with the right amount of people.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: And that's nothing about anybody who share before they were
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: they were a great coach. I'm just saying hiring my people.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And you know, I first started, like you know, we
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: had one strength coach and one assistant a temple, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: then it was like one strength coach and four assistants.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And now we live in a world where like, you
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: better have sports science people, and you better have interns,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and you better have you know, you better have a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: PT and a director of rehab and a director of
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: return to play, And I mean this is a whole
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: different world now. And so how do you keep players
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: from going into the portal and leaving. They know that
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: they're getting developed, they know they're getting better. I know
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: there was gonna say nil, Yeah, that's part of it, obviously,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: But if you're at a place where you're like, man,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm getting bigger, I'm getting stronger, my mind's getting better,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm learning the game of football. If you know you're
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: getting developed, then you're probably gonna stick around, and so
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: putting money and infrastructure into that. We have the best
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we're the best nutritionist in the country.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: She's here, her and her team, they're here. They have
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: two full time chefs just for football who were also dieticians,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Like they know every person's food allergy, every person's want.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: We have five guys doing Ramadan like they're here at
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: They're here at four thirty four forty five making food
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: for those guys so they can eat before first prayer.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: They're giving them food at night like they are the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: They are the best nutrition staff in the country. That's
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: not cheap. That's not easy. Way to go. Hire them
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: from the SEC and bring them here, so travel out
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: us to do all that stuff. The key to me
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: is putting the right people in this building. And if
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you have the right people in this building, that will
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: track and retain really good players.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so go ahead.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: No, I was just kind of like, hell yeah, no, that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Was real, Like, you gotta surround your you gotta surround
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: your athletes with the right people.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: That's the only way you can make the program better.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: And I feel that I wish I'll play for Nebraska.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: They get you juic stuff, right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: To say real talk, So like did you bring so
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: you talked about the NI nil deal being going to
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the temple, temple not having that and now having that,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: How does that change your coaching your recruit Like how
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: is it because you owe school now to this new
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: school where it's crazy and it's not really policed.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So right, it's it's I think it's one of the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: good things for me that I was in the NFL
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and I dealt with the whole free agent process, right,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Like my whole thing in that time was like, hey,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: when it gets to the end of the season, like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you handle your money like you handle you. You handle you.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Once you agree to your contract or you're with us,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: then you're with us. And like that was always my
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: my thing. So when a player was like, hey, you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this for my contract, I understood
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: it because I was like, you know, I've had probably
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: seven or eight different contracts. I've been head coached four
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: different times with you know, renegotiations, and I probably had
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: seven eight contracts. Like, when it comes time for that,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: it's time for that. So coming into the world of NIL,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: when a player is seeking to get what's theirs. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: have no fundamental issue with that. If it starts to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: bleed over into well, if I don't get this, I'm
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: not doing that. That that's not how you just not
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: how you do things in the NFL, other than you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: if you're holding now, which is different. But I'm saying, like,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to have your business side and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you have to have your other side. And so we're
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: preparing our guys for life, and we're preparing them for
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the National Football League, and so everything they do from
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: how they recover to taking notes and meetings to their
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: mindset to now how you handle the business part of
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it is something that I want to be the best at.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely different what I did see when
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I was in the NFL when we draft to sit
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: young players, I saw some guys with a lot of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: talent who at a couple of schools. I was like, man,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: they really didn't coach you very hard today because they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: were so afraid that maybe that person was going to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: end up in the portal. And you know what, like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, if you want to be great, you got
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: to get coached hard. If you want to be great,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you need to be coached hard. And what I mean
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: by that is, when it's right, it's right. When it's wrong,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it's wrong. When you do it right, maybe were going
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to celebrate when you do it wrong, We're not going
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to celebrate when you do it wrong. Again. Really, we're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: going to talk about it. And when I'm wrong, and
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things I do best
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: as a head coach. When I'm wrong, then I'm gonna
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: talk about it too. I'm gona stand up front team,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: like I messed this up, guys. And so being in
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: a program that doesn't push guys like that, they become
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: fifth round draft picks instead of first round draft picks.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And we're trying to produce first round draft picks. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you know, when I talked to Dion Dawkins, when I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: talked to some of those guys that I coached in college,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: they're still telling funny stories I don't even remember, Like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you remember the time you did this, Remember the time
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you do that. I probably did do that, And like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you're doing a coach pollini, I'm watching you do you know?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But but they need to be pushed, they need to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: be developed. And so think about everything I've talked about,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you give them the best facilities, you put the best
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: people around them that are helping them and protecting them.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: But then you have a high standard form. They gotta
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: want those things. And then at the same time, when
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you have an opportunity, you know, if NIL can help
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: take care of them, then we take care of them.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And you know, that's why I believe. That's why I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: believe that we're always going to be successful. And what
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we've seen in two years is not many guys want
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to leave, you know, they want to be here. There's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: a difference between someone who's like, hey, coach, I'm not playing,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I'd love to go play. At this way, we've helped
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: more guys do that. We love those guys, but no
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: one's saying, hey, I want to go leave because almost
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: said about this or that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like, uh, do you feel like Nebraska
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and everybody around the state understands the importance of NIL.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So I know last year there were a couple of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: clips going around, not of you pushing that, No, of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you pushing saying people don't but people having the expectation
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: of quarterback play. Hey, a starting quarterback, it costs, it
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: costs that, or you need the you need the level
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of support out there to match the level of expection
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of expectation. Do you feel like that's happening here?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gots I had some coaches. I had some coaches.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I had some coaches across the country hit me up like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: hey man, how are you gonna put that out there?
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: But I was like, it's the reality, right, Like, that's
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that's the that's the problem in my mind. That's the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: problem with NILS. It's not transparent like in the NFL.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: As you guys know, if an agent would have called
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: us and been like, hey, you know what for Will
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Compton and you know I've got I've already got three years,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you know, eight million a year. You know, could you
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: guys do eight point five? And then we're like, now
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: we can't pull the trigger on that, And all of
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a sudden we see he signs three years for four
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: million a year, and we know that agent lied to us.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Then we're never doing business with him again, you know. So,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: so the NFL is so transparent because you see the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: contracts afterwards. In the NIL world, it's all kind of hidden.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: So I forget what you just asked me, bro the uh.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nebraska.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the support of the level of support matching the expectations.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So my point has always been like, hey, let's let's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: keep it all out there, let's make it. Let's put
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it all out there and say, you know, like there's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: teams that we that we're going to face that spend
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars on their football team twenty to twenty
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: five million dollars in the football team. So you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of people tell me like, I don't believe
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: in NIL, and I'm like, well, it's it's not something
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to believe in or not. It's real. It's here, like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: it's it's what it is. So I'm always like, hey,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: if you want us to finish first, then then let's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: put first, like first first, then everything first, coaching staff
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: for salary pool, first, facilities, first. Nil. There's a reason
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: why in the NFL that have parody they have a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: salary cap, and there is really no salary cap in
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: college right now. So I think we're heading in the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: right direction. I think it's hard for some people to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes understand, like, you know, what are we doing here?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: To me, investing in young people's never wrong, Like everyone
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: has this thing of like wow, kids are gonna wait,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm only where I'm at in my
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: life because people have invested in me and given me opportunities.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: So if we can help young people on our team
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: have opportunities for name, image and lightness, then I'm one
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: hundred percent for it. And if we want to win,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: we better do it at a really high level.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Do you got anything else? Go ahead, No, I'm solid.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about this.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: I know in Temple you was what the first coach
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to have two consecutive ten game wins since nineteen seventy nine,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: and you you talked about some of them players like uh,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: and you're trying to bring that mentality here to Nebraska, correct,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Like that's that's what you're looking for.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the way we played football at Temple.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I love Temple. I love Temple University, Temples
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: in Temples in North Philadelphia. That's a real neighborhood with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: great people that you go to Temple. You're a tough person.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: You grew up with a tough place. You put your
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: feet on concrete every day, you know, So we had
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to play football that way. So like we were gonna
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: hit you, we were going to strike you. We kept
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: track of like the amount of times a team we
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: played lost the next week, Like we always kept track
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: of that score. We're trying to beat you on Saturday
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and then have you lose again next Saturday. And so
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we played football that way and what that allows us
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to do because we practiced that way and lifted that way.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: You know what, we had a lot of guys come
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in with one star recruits, no star recruits who went
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: on a play pro football, played in Canada, played in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the NFL because they got they got trained. And when
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you have a team like Temple and you beat Vanderbilt
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: at Vanderbilt, you know, coming off a seven win season,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: when you beat Penn State for the first time in
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: seventy four years, it's only because your players have put
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the work in. And we went to Baylor. Baylor was
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: a little different, were a little more spread. We still
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: played good defense. When we came here, we were like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: where can we go that we can? But people love defense,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: people will love special teams, people will love practice. People
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: won't think that working hard is you know, is a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is a punishment. You know, Like like there's people that
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: pay money to go to cross fit. They call it CrossFit, right,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: they do like this isn't punishment. This is we're investing
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in you. Where can we go? And and Nebraska seemed
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: like that. You know, they believe in the running game,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: they believe in being physical, they believe in defense. So
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I believe that this is like the way we were
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: at Temple, but but just with way more resources, way
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: way way more opportunities. And so that's what made this job.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: So that's why my wife kept saying, like you need
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: to go there, like like where else are you gonna go?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That That's gonna play football the way you really want
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: to play it deep down inside, because deep down inside,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I want to play football that way. I want I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: want the game to be nine on seven, you know.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So you know I love having great quarterbacks. You know
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you've met a couple of them. I want to throw
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the ball around and be fun, but at the end
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of the day, I want to win the physical battle.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And that's why I loved my time at Temple. And
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that's what I believe Nebraska will let us.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: One more question. You've been from New York? How is
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Nebraska band from New York? Like the different?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, throwed out. You know, before I took this job,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I wanted to come out and see it, and I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: think it's the number one thing that happens in recruiting.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Like you first hear I will recruit a kid from Miami,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: recruit kid from anywhere. And you're here in Nebraska and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you think, honestly, you did like Cornfield on a campus, right,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And remember when I was in the I was in
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the big twelve. You know, you go to Oklahoma State
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and it was like a little downtown and then a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: big stadium. So I thought it was gonna be that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And my wife and I were like, I don't know
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: about that. We came here and we went down, we
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: drove around the Haymarket, we drove down O Street, and
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is like a city. I mean
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's not a big city, but this is like a
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: big town or a small city. I was like, if
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I can't recruit here, you know, where can I recruit?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You know, we started driving around looking at you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the town overall. I mean it's, man, it's like eight
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: or nine public high schools right here in Lincoln. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: then you know, you drive forty minutes, forty five minutes
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to Omaha, and Omaha is one of the coolest cities
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that people don't know about one of the coolest cities
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in the Midwest. Like you come back here. I don't
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: know if you ever went to the College World Series.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: The College World Series I thought I was in, Like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it's like a mixture of like the NCAA Final Four,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Marty Gras all in one. I'm like, this is unbelievable
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and great concerts and great so so. Yeah, it's not
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: New York City, but the people here love football. It's safe.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: There's not a place in town where I'm like, my mother,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: there's not a place here in Lincoln. I'm like, hey, guys,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: don't go there. Don't go here. It's a it's the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: people here care about the team, they care about people.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: It's safe, it's close to everything. You know. We're in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the Big ten now that goes from east coast to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: west coast. But we only have a two and a
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: half hour flight here, a two and a half hour.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Other guys are gonna be swinging five six hours west
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: coast to east coast, East coast to west coast, Like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: we're in the central part of the country. A quick
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: flight to Chicago, two hour drive to Kansas City. I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: came here and I was like, you know, Lincoln, Lincoln's
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Lincoln's what I was kind of looking for. A big city,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: not just a college town. It's a state capitol and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: omahas fire. I don't care what people say. It's got
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a great restaurants seen. So I've really, really, really enjoyed it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I still like going back to New York City. Everyone's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: while getting on the subway and you know, I a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: little fixing, but but I've loved I've loved being able
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to be here and be out in the in the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: on a farm, and then be downtown at a nice restaurant,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you know. Twenty minute difference.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Ye Dylan was talking about the Matt drills and talking
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: how serious those were. Some coaches do away with the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Matt drills, yep, especially in this day and age. Yeah,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: but you got them aliva, you got them alive.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And well, you know what's really cool for me is, uh,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: there was like a Twitter thread and it was players
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you know, Jarreed works for me over here, but that
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: played for us at Western Carolina, I don't know, twenty
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: years ago, and players from Temple and players from Baylor
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and the players from here, and they were all they
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: were all making basically making fun of me, you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: because I run the mat drill like it ain't like
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like and like I show up, but I sit
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in the Matt drill. I'm the first row. Like I
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: run the Matt drill. And Sat who's my OC has
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: been with me at Western and Temple. He's the next guy.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And then who did the Matt drels as a player,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: he's one of the guys. So like, if you're coaching
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the Matt drill, if you're on the mat, like you
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: either went through it or you're you know, you're kind
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: of owe you from way back when. So but to me,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: it's a rite of passage. And uh, we have a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: player at m J. Sherman here. He you know, he
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: he came from the University of Georgia and won national championships,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and and at first was like kind of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like why are we doing this coach in a very
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: respectful way, but struggled with it. And he had an
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: interview the other day and he was like, you know what,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I would ever want to go through the Matt drills again,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: but a Matt dreel mixed men will make a man
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: out of you. And yeah, you can go out there
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and you can do do football drills only and you
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: can run around bags and all that. But like all
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the research, I don't care. If you listen to David
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Goggins Jock o' willink, you read all the research says
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that our brains get better, they get stronger when we
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: do things we don't want to do. We have to.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: We have to.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: We can't get saturated with dopamine where everything's at our fingertips,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and you have to earn and do hard things every
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: single day, not as punishment but actually as a reward
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: for yourself. So the Matt drills, man, they're just eight
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: times the standard, unbelievably high. If you don't do it,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we're doing it again the next morning. And when they
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: graduate and come through that, the goal is someday, someday
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: we take the field and our guys look at the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: other team and they were like, you know what, There's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: no way you paid the same price we played. There's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: no way you're out there for three hours in the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: spring wak like we are. There's no way you have
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: six am meetings. There's no way you do Matt drills
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and then do position work afterwards. There's just no way.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And if you do, then let's have a good game.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And so that's we're not there yet, but we're pushing
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it towards that. And look at Dyling, five star recruit,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you know, quarterback, you know, should he lay out and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: dive in the matt drills. He gets out there, he's
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: doing it. You know, he's doing it. And they will
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: eventually have a brotherhood where they all like, hey, we
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: all did it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I love that. Oh how do how Nash take to dominate? Huh?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to go with the med ball,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you know, and and and and in fairness, this year,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have Nash to do anything but that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: You know, hey, you know it's funny with that. He
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: he he uh he uh. And the one Chasing three
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: we did that little we do those little episodes. A
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: little documentary he saw about wrestling and he was like
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: his dad said yeah, like he was excited to finally
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: get back to that type of training where you really
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: push yourself. And I was like, oh, so he was
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: trying to say wrestling is harder than football. He was
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: like no, no, no, but he told me he's like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: coach is just And our defensive staff went over and
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: watched wrestling, and they came back and they were like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you know, all right, we got it. Whatever he's doing enough,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and God blessed him. Like he showed up every day
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to matchees with his cleats on, his shirt on, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I'd be like standing on the side and he'd watch.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: But he was there for his brothers, you know, Like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: but what he was going through was it was tough,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: man Like, oh yeah, he was. What he was going
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: through was tough. You know, he was losing weight and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: still lifting and training with us and then going out
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and fighting for the wrestling team. I mean, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: we have three guys running track. We have one guy running,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: one guy did wrestling. I mean we we kind of
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: got some multi.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Sport afftime dunk contest fire.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: That was I got dunk, went up the dunk and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: he hit me in the back of the head. But
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I was out there for him, you know. So But
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you know what, I think that's so cool for our guys, right,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Like it's one thing to get a bunch of publicity
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: like for like you know, for your name. It's another
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: thing can get publicity for like what you do. And
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: those guys whether whether they're giving you back to the community,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: or they're dunk in a basketball halftime. Like, it's way
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: different dunk in a basketball in at the Intramural Center
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: than in front of like fifteen thousand people in your
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: heartache jumping out of her you know, but you know
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they looked good. It was they were throwing it down. Yes,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: FERDONI was you know, FERDONI coming off two way cls.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean that went from the foul line, you know
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: It was really fun to see those guys go out
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: there and get that done.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Well, coach O, we appreciate your time. I don't feel
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: like I had one other thing. Oh well, uh, Heinrich
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: we had a pet peeve. We asked him what he
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: loves about coaching a pet peeve about it's pet peeve?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Is uh what was this pet peeve? Basically, you get
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: started on something, you're like, hey, it's gonna be guys,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: just a quick little message, quickly two minute message. It
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: turns into like fifteen minutes, and then you get the
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: rambling about some story because.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: You say you got to go to class.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the class and text n telling
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: them to see him the office. No, it's funny because
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like they I can see the guys imitate me, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: it's like, I don't realize I do some of the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: things I do. But like the guys that Bailor would
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: imitate me. They'd be like, we go here, and then
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I see these guys doing the same invitation. I'm like,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I must really do that. I guess I really do that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Well, Coach.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, Nah, I appreciate you guys be
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: in here though. That means a lot that you guys
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: are here, so so I for letting you down in Memphis,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you know what. The fact that you're here and the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: fact that we got the live show tonight, Like that's
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be wear in the jersey. If I can fit
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: into it, you can fit in I mean, I know
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: they had to stretch it back in the day.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: You know that would have been a different story.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: But appreciate you