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STAR MUSICIAN D4VD WATCHES WHILE CELESTE, 13, BLEEDS IN KIDDIE POOL IN GARAGE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Bob Shell Tonight, a star musician, multi millionaire musician D
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Speaker 1: four VD aka David Anthony Burke watches while Celeste Rivas thirteen,
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Speaker 1: a little schoolgirl thirteen, bleeds in a hidden kiddie pool
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Speaker 1: while he stands there and watches Good Evening. I mean, see, Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is crime Stories. I want to thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. This little girl partially skeletonized, her left
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Speaker 1: eye gone.
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Speaker 2: We don't know why they wanted to keep it secret
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Speaker 2: for so long.
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Speaker 1: When I read this, I felt nauseous. I got hot
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Speaker 1: all over because I think of Celeste as that little girl. Repeat.
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Speaker 1: I have just review the people's brief regarding preliminary evidence
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Speaker 1: is state versus David Anthony Burke, And I've got to
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Speaker 1: tell you I prosecuted a lot of homicides. I've handled
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Speaker 1: cases where bodies were rendered, all sorts of cases. This
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Speaker 1: is beyond practically anything I've ever seen. Joining me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of what we are learning.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to Joseph Scott Morgan. He is a professor
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Speaker 1: forensic's Jackville State University. Is the author of Blood Beneath
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Speaker 1: My Feet on Amazon. He's a star of a hit
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Speaker 1: podcast series body bags with Joe Scott Morgan. But most important,
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Speaker 1: he is a death investigator with over ten thousand death
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Speaker 1: scenes under his belt. Did you read this? That's a yes? No,
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Speaker 1: yes no? Did you read it? Yes?
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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, I sure did.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I really don't know where to start, but can
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Speaker 1: we start with he D four VD David Anthony Burke
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Speaker 1: stands by. Remember the other night I was talking to
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Speaker 1: you and I said, you know, what we're learning is
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Speaker 1: that there are tiny fragments, microscopic fragments of blue plastic
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Speaker 1: in her body, in the cuts on her body, and
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Speaker 1: we were talking about where did that come from? What
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Speaker 1: could it be? Now we know that Soob plays this
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Speaker 1: girl in a kitty pool. Just it's more than I
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Speaker 1: can take in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad that you're using the term bleed out
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Speaker 3: because let me explain something to you real quick. The injury,
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Speaker 3: which in my opinion, and I think that the Emmy
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Speaker 3: corner holds this opinion as well, is the lethal injury
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Speaker 3: here is going to be the liver. Nancy, if you
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Speaker 3: sustain trauma to the liver. I've seen this with stab wounds,
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Speaker 3: gunshot wounds, and motor vehicle accidents. It is not a
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Speaker 3: quick death. This is an agonizing death. The liver is
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Speaker 3: very vascular next to the brain. It is the most
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Speaker 3: vascular organ in the body. And so as she was
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Speaker 3: laying there having had this happen to her, where she
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Speaker 3: is attacked with this weapon and they're not being very
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Speaker 3: specific here. We know it's sharp nancy. She would have
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Speaker 3: bled out or exsanguinated as a fancy term, but bled
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Speaker 3: out into her abdomen. And it's not one of these
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Speaker 3: things like a gunshot wound all right to the head
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Speaker 3: or something like that. That's not what we're talking about here.
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Speaker 3: It would have been a slow, agonizing death that she
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Speaker 3: would have gone through. That experience specifically, is enough to
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Speaker 3: send a chill up and down your spine.
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Speaker 1: Trey Lovell, veteran criminal defense attorney, trial lawyer, founder of
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Speaker 1: the love It Firm, joining us out of this jurisdiction. Now,
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Speaker 1: I see why the prosecutor is discussing the death penalty
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Speaker 1: in this case. And yes, D FOURVD is over eighteen.
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Speaker 1: That's the cutoff set by the US Supreme Court. The
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Speaker 1: death penalty will apply if it is implemented, if it
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Speaker 1: is handed down by a jury. Chay Lovell, could there
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Speaker 1: be anything more aggravating. That's a term of art. To
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Speaker 1: prove the death penalty, the state must prove special circumstances,
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Speaker 1: special aggravating circumstances, according to what the state says they
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Speaker 1: can prove in a preliminary hearing. They've got him busted
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Speaker 1: buying on Amazon. For Pete's sake, idiot, he buys it
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Speaker 1: on Amazon. It can be traced to him. And just
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Speaker 1: for fun, let me throw this into you. In for you, Trey,
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Speaker 1: he used a fake name. He used a different name
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Speaker 1: to buy the kiddie pool. Look, I bought kitty pools before.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have to use a fake name for it.
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Speaker 1: That's just another element of proof right there, Trey, what
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Speaker 1: do you do with that? A kiddie pool? He watches
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Speaker 1: her stands there and watches her as she dies. That's cold.
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Speaker 4: Well, listen, you know, the death penalty is what is
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Speaker 4: absolutely the most draconian worth sensing that we can have.
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Speaker 5: So we're we're way ahead of ourselves.
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Speaker 4: We need to establish the basic elements here. We need
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Speaker 4: to establish the evidence and ensure you know, what this
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Speaker 4: guy did. We're at the very beginning. We can't be
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Speaker 4: making judgments at this point, you know, These are egregious facts,
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Speaker 4: but there's a number of things that could have happened
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Speaker 4: that would would mitigate the situation on his end, maybe
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Speaker 4: not on somebody else's. So it we're way ahead of
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Speaker 4: ourselves in terms of talking about the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: Now, did you say mitigation? Did you say what? Was
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Speaker 1: he a cub scout? What mitigation? Is there possibly out
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Speaker 1: there that would reduce the fact that the state says
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Speaker 1: in writing, this isn't a courthouse room. We're up and
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Speaker 1: down the hall outside the judges chamber.
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Speaker 4: These are allegations. The evidence has just started, and we
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Speaker 4: can't get ahead of ourselves. The death penalty is the
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Speaker 4: most raconian sensing we can have in California, and we've
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Speaker 4: got to make sure you know that we meet the
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Speaker 4: elements and we go forward. The death was horrendous, but
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Speaker 4: we need to still tie him to it. There's still
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Speaker 4: defenses they can have, so you know, at this point
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Speaker 4: we can't be judging it. You know, we've seen one
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Speaker 4: side of the evidence out of the prosecution. The defense
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Speaker 4: is just getting going and I guarantee you they will
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Speaker 4: be poking holes in the evidence they will have with
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Speaker 4: their alternative theory. We are just at the.
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Speaker 1: Beginning, straight out to Susan Hendrix's joining US investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: and journalist author off a bestseller down the Hill my
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Speaker 1: descend into the double murders in Delphi, Susan Hendrix, just
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Speaker 1: just the portion about him buying I mean, we've got
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Speaker 1: Amazon orders out the ying yang here technical legal term.
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Speaker 1: But he is busted buying a blue kiddie pool. And
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Speaker 1: I know where the kiddie pool was used. It was
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Speaker 1: hidden in his garage, his downstairs garage, in that mansion
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Speaker 1: that he was ranting. Let's see a shot of the mansion.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I can get a shot at the basement door.
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Speaker 1: So the blue kiddie pool, the inflatable pool, was in
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Speaker 1: the basement. My question is, isn't it true the state
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Speaker 1: alleges he bought it on Amazon?
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Speaker 2: I know absolutely. And that's why what you said, Nancy,
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Speaker 2: that brief is so key because to me, it gives
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Speaker 2: us a timeline, It shows us what he bought. You
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Speaker 2: mentioned it with a fake name, and to me it
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Speaker 2: says he changed his mind a few times out of
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Speaker 2: the gate buying a shovel. Did he use that? But
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Speaker 2: the kittie pool, the kitty pool is so horrendous. I
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Speaker 2: wonder what his train of thought was, thinking, Oh, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to order this and this is so she won't
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Speaker 2: lead everywhere. It's horrific. And that's what the DA said. Hawkman,
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Speaker 2: this is a parent's worst nightmare.
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Speaker 1: There is a shot, Susan, if you can look at
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Speaker 1: your mind monitor. This is from our friend Harvey Levin
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Speaker 1: over at TMZ. There is the garage door down the side,
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Speaker 1: the bottom level, the backside of the home. Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at everything you're saying. You know. Another thing that
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Speaker 1: did not escape me to Joseph Scott Morgan. She was
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Speaker 1: identified by her dental records and I know what that means.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's in such an advanced state of decomposition nancy,
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Speaker 3: and that's critical. Actually it was as a result, i think,
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Speaker 3: probably to a great degree of the orthodonic work that
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Speaker 3: she had had done. Remember this child had braces, all right.
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Speaker 3: Let that sink in just for a second. And because
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Speaker 3: of those braces and the work that had been done,
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Speaker 3: the orthodonic people would have had extensive records on her teeth.
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Speaker 3: And I'm assuming also that they ordered these up pretty quickly.
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Speaker 3: You've got a dentist that's cooperating with the ME in
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Speaker 3: order to get her tied down, get this ID tied
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Speaker 3: down as quickly as possible. And it could be I
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Speaker 3: don't completely buy it. It could be that maybe from
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Speaker 3: a sampling standpoint, the DNA was degraded. Again I'm not
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Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily buying that, but they went with dental
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Speaker 3: ID here, and that's going to be critical because it's
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Speaker 3: very distinctive. We all have very distinctive teeth, Nancy, and
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Speaker 3: even if you've had orthodontire done, they're still unique to
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Speaker 3: you because we not only look at the teeth where
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Speaker 3: they're visible, we actually look at the at the root
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Speaker 3: system on X ray and we can do examinations relative
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Speaker 3: to that. The forensic codontologists can't. And they turn this
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Speaker 3: around apparently pretty quickly because they needed to verify that
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Speaker 3: this was her, because you knew that she was missing,
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Speaker 3: and that's why.
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Speaker 1: I think they did it with her. I think they
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Speaker 1: used dental records because they couldn't wait on DNA. They
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Speaker 1: already knew of Celestriva's existence, they knew she was missing,
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Speaker 1: and they wanted to get that dental match. They wanted
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Speaker 1: to get an ID on the body. Immediately, and dental
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Speaker 1: records were the fastest way to go. You're absolutely right
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Speaker 1: back out to you, Susan Hendricks's joining us. I was
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Speaker 1: just taking a look at all of the things this
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Speaker 1: idiot ordered on Amazon. Hey, does this name ring a bell?
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Speaker 1: Brian Cooburger ordered the murder weapon on Amazon. Let's take
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Speaker 1: a look at Brian Cober's k bar knife that he
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Speaker 1: ordered that came back to haunt him. He can think
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Speaker 1: about that tactical mistake as he's sitting behind bars for
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Speaker 1: life without parole. Then we've got Colt mom Laurie Valo,
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Speaker 1: you know technical legal phrase. She's another idiot. Let me
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Speaker 1: go to Trey lovel on this Trey, it's when you're
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Speaker 1: prosecuting a murder case and called my Maury Valo's case
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Speaker 1: multiple murders, including her own children. But let me just
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Speaker 1: throw in her now husband, the prophet, self appointed prophet,
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Speaker 1: Chad Dave Bell. What she saw on him. Not sure
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Speaker 1: he was married, but before his wife died, I e
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Speaker 1: was murdered. She caught Mylori Valo goes on Amazon and
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Speaker 1: orders her wedding dress and a ring and assumed to
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Speaker 1: be grooms outfit for a beach b E A C.
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Speaker 1: H wedding on Amazon before Tammy Dave Bell the wife
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Speaker 1: is dead. So you've got, for instance, Coburger ordering the
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Speaker 1: k bar knife. You've got calt My Muri Valo does
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Speaker 1: nobody I mean second verse save as the first, and
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Speaker 1: you've got D four V D David Anthony Burke ordering.
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Speaker 1: I had to make a flow chart. He ordered a
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Speaker 1: body bag. He ordered a heavy duty laundry bag, a shovel. Oh,
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Speaker 1: he ordered that from home depot, two chainsaws by Amazon,
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Speaker 1: and a home burn cage. I mean there's more. I'm
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Speaker 1: just throwing you the highlights. He ordered it all on Amazon,
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Speaker 1: and then Ding Dong tried to use a fake name.
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Speaker 4: Listen, he's eighteen years old. You know this guy doesn't
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Speaker 4: know what he's doing. The last thing he's thinking about
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Speaker 4: is no, he's not he's or eighteen at.
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Speaker 1: Tray level, he's twenty one. He was twenty at the
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Speaker 1: time Celesti was murdered. And speaking of ages, they met
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Speaker 1: and that's certainly euphemism. They met when she was eleven eleven,
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Speaker 1: and he gave her, according to these bombshell documents, a
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Speaker 1: secret cell phone so they could text and send naughty
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Speaker 1: pictures back and forth. Eleven eleven tray level back to
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Speaker 1: Amazon orders.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you know, listen, he's he's a young guy.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't have the benefit of having lived a while.
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Speaker 4: You know, this is probably something he was obviously never
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Speaker 4: been faced with and it may have affected the rest
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Speaker 4: of his career in his life, and he acted accordingly,
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Speaker 4: you know, So we can't expect people like this to
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Speaker 4: be dot in their ezed and crossing the t's. And obviously,
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Speaker 4: you know, post murder, assuming it's him, he took steps
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Speaker 4: to that he thought would try to hide it, but
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Speaker 4: obviously in this day and age, you can't do it.
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Speaker 4: So you know that that's the the the problem of youth, uh,
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Speaker 4: when you try to commit, allegedly commit a murder like this.
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Speaker 1: I love the way you said he was young. Guess
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Speaker 1: what level she was younger? Eleven years old when this
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Speaker 1: whole sortid thing began. Back to the evidence. You know,
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Speaker 1: the orders on Amazon. Back to Susan Hendrick's investigative journalists
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Speaker 1: joining us from the field. Old Susan, what all did
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Speaker 1: this idiot order on Amazon?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I have a list here too, and you're right, A
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Speaker 2: body bag, garbage bag, the burn cage, which I had
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Speaker 2: never heard of. As you said, home depot the shovel,
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Speaker 2: just on and on, picturing him on his cell phone,
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Speaker 2: scrolling like we all do through Amazon, getting I don't know, laundry, detergent,
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Speaker 2: no things to get rid of a body, and you're righteous.
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Speaker 2: Eleven years old. When they first connected eleven with races,
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Speaker 2: the parents got involved, said no, you can't see her anymore.
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Speaker 2: What do you do?
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Speaker 7: He went to her middle.
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Speaker 2: School, paid a kid one thousand dollars and said give
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Speaker 2: her this phone, and they continue to communicate. A baby
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Speaker 2: in middle school.
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Speaker 1: Hold on just a moment, can you repeat that about
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Speaker 1: D four VD paying one of her classmates a grand
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Speaker 1: so they would give Celeste a secret cell phone?
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Speaker 2: What yeah, reported missing by her parents. She went back home.
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, this was he goes. He drives
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Speaker 2: about hour and a half to her middle school. She's
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Speaker 2: a young kid, and says, here, here's one thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: Give this phone to Celesti so they could keep communicating.
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Speaker 2: At this point, I'm picturing just a baby embraces in
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Speaker 2: middle school, pays another little child one thousand dollars, and
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Speaker 2: therefore Celestia is able to get that front.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Jerlyn Utter joining US clinical psychologist specializing in evaluations
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Speaker 1: in the criminal justice system. She's the author of Mainlining Philly,
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Speaker 1: Survival Hope and Resisting Drug Addiction, the author of Aftershock,
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Speaker 1: How Past Events Shake Up Your Life Today. She's the
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Speaker 1: producer of Utter Nonsense and documentary and you can find
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Speaker 1: her at doctor Jerlenutter dot com. Eleven years old and
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Speaker 1: he is just that visual that Susan Hendrix just conjured
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Speaker 1: up of him scrolling through his finding just the right
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Speaker 1: kitty pull, ordering all of these items, shovel, burncage, kitty pool, chainsaws,
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Speaker 1: it goes on.
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Speaker 7: There is such a disconnect from individuals like mister Burke
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Speaker 7: recognizing that the person that was allegedly killed Celeste was
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Speaker 7: a human being. There is such a huge detachment. I
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Speaker 7: mean when you look at the behavior and I don't
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Speaker 7: you know, age has nothing to do with this. I
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Speaker 7: don't care if he was eighteen twenty one. That's even scarier.
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Speaker 7: The fact that he was so young, you know, allegedly
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Speaker 7: committing these types of crimes, and it's just so disheartening.
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Speaker 7: So when you look at this, you know, I deal
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Speaker 7: with homicide cases. I deal with extremely violent cases. And
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Speaker 7: do risk assessments all the time where somebody unfortunately loses
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Speaker 7: their life and I work with the perpetrators, and what
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Speaker 7: I can tell you, you know, that's so disturbing for
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Speaker 7: me about this case is the sheer detachment of recognizing humanity.
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Speaker 7: There was no empathy, there's no remorse. We are not
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Speaker 7: he is not looking at this little girl as a
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Speaker 7: human being, let alone a little girl. So it's just
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Speaker 7: it's so upsetting to have to sit and to read
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Speaker 7: and to take in all of this information. Again, when
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Speaker 7: you're going and you're buying all of the different things,
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Speaker 7: you're buying a burn cage. I mean, it just goes
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Speaker 7: to speak to the depravity of it all and how
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Speaker 7: we're not dealing with somebody with one issue, which could
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Speaker 7: be you know, a pattern of anti social behavior. We're
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Speaker 7: dealing with a lot of things. You know, somebody that's
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Speaker 7: attracted to children, violence, you know, obsession with with murder
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Speaker 7: and death and how you're going to hurt someone. There's
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Speaker 7: so much to this right from a personality perspective, It's
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Speaker 7: it's just devastating.
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Speaker 1: Nancy. You know you mentioned obsession with murder and death.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Jerln. I don't know if you've seen the visual
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Speaker 1: of his pr campaign where he is wearing bloody clothes,
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Speaker 1: selling bloody clothes. Joining us now, Steve Fisher, special guest,
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Speaker 1: missing person's private investigator, search and rescue specialist, the owner
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Speaker 1: of Search Investigations. He was hired by the owner of
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Speaker 1: that Hollywood Hills mansion where D four VD was renting
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Speaker 1: at the time of the murders. And you are the
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Speaker 1: first person to say the words fire cage or burn
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Speaker 1: cage or home incinerator. What did you observe?
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Speaker 6: We found the burn cage at the house after the
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Speaker 6: search farm was executed. It was, you know, going back
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Speaker 6: now you can see it in images from my streams
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Speaker 6: and videos that he took at the house. He didn't
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Speaker 6: seem to have a care in the world that it
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Speaker 6: was there for the friends to see. We found the chainsaw,
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Speaker 6: you know, and several packages in the name of Victoria
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Speaker 6: Mendez from Amazon, including the burn cage.
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Speaker 1: Is there a Victoria Mendez not that.
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Speaker 5: We have found. It appears just to be a neal
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Speaker 5: as he was using too.
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher. Before I get back to what we learned
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Speaker 1: about her body, specifically why two of her fingers were
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Speaker 1: cut off, you know, what. Let me just go to
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott right now, Joe Scott Morgan, remember a couple
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Speaker 1: of nights ago that you and I were talking about.
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Speaker 1: Two of her fingers on her left hand were missing, right,
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Speaker 1: Some of the fingers were gone and what and they
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Speaker 1: were never found, never found. The rest of her body
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Speaker 1: found in two separate bags, but her fingers were gone,
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Speaker 1: they were amputated. Did you know that one of those
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Speaker 1: fingers was the one she had his D four vd's
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Speaker 1: name tattooed on the finger.
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Speaker 3: I have since found that out, but I got to
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Speaker 3: tell you it's not surprising because that's a specific identifier
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Speaker 3: that could be tied back to her as a person,
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Speaker 3: and she was a person, Nancy, and he's wanting to
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Speaker 3: get rid of that. And I've had cases like this
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Speaker 3: before where we've had victims that are in an advanced
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Speaker 3: state of decomposition, They've been dumped, I've had hands cut off,
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Speaker 3: heads cut off, those sorts of things, and so, and
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Speaker 3: it's a feeble attempt, particularly in the face of modern
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Speaker 3: forensic science, to try to keep these people unidentified. Because
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Speaker 3: it's always been my contention in any death investigation, Nancy,
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Speaker 3: if you can determine you can determine who the person is.
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Speaker 3: It's like the proverbial sweater. The mom tells you not
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Speaker 3: to pull the string on. You pull that string and
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Speaker 3: this whole thing comes unraveled relative to it, pointing back
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Speaker 3: to this individual ancty.
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Speaker 1: Hey Joe Scott, look at that picture again. I know
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Speaker 1: you and I deal in forensics and probative value evidence,
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Speaker 1: but look at this. Look don't take the photo down.
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Speaker 1: This finger was amputated because it divulged the identity of
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Speaker 1: the victim. But wait, keep looking. This is her ring finger,
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Speaker 1: and she is wearing an engagement ring, a traditional engagement ring.
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Speaker 1: This little girl, the whole argument, the whole thing blew
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Speaker 1: up when she celested, got angry that Deforvid would not
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Speaker 1: quit sleeping with other people. It hurt her feelings. She's
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Speaker 1: a little girl, she's thirteen. She said. He promised her
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Speaker 1: a future, marriage, children, a life together, and she's even
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Speaker 1: wearing a faux engagement ring on her ring finger with
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Speaker 1: the tattoo on it, dreaming that she was going to
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Speaker 1: be missus David Anthony Burt. That breaks my heart, and
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Speaker 1: her little broken heart that he would not quit dating
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Speaker 1: other women led to her murder because she threatened to
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Speaker 1: reveal their relationship. He was on the verge. Let me
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Speaker 1: go to Steve Fisher on this, because he's made an
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Speaker 1: incredible timeline. He was on the verge of dropping an
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Speaker 1: album and launching a world tour. Celeste could have ruined
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. He could either marry her or kill her.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he is true.
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Speaker 6: And these other women reminders that he was that she
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Speaker 6: was upset about, and I'm in touch with them, and
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Speaker 6: it's just really sad. This is this is grooming to
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Speaker 6: the full extent. I'll tell you one hundred things. That
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Speaker 6: somebody called me that now it's comfortable since statement has
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Speaker 6: been arrested, and they told me that Celeste have been
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Speaker 6: trying to get the ring back to David and he
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Speaker 6: wouldn't take it. She was like trying to cut free
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Speaker 6: from this guy. Of course, you know, she's being groomed,
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Speaker 6: so she still got this thing, you know where she's
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Speaker 6: having trouble doing it, but she wanted to break free
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Speaker 6: from him and he would not take the ring back.
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Speaker 5: He would not let her go.
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, you have exclusive video of De four Vide's
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Speaker 1: tesla being moved around in the neighborhood and you are
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Speaker 1: allowing us to show it. I want to thank you
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Speaker 1: for that. Let's see Steve Fisher's video. What am I saying, Steve?
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Speaker 6: So, this is July twenty ninth, which is the last
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Speaker 6: day they're actually in Hollywood because they're leaving on his
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Speaker 6: tour on the Wither tour is beginning that evening in
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Speaker 6: Santa Barbara. And this is the carban moved from the house.
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Speaker 6: The house is right around where the car starts. It's
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Speaker 6: right around that corner there, and it's coming down to
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Speaker 6: where wraps around the Bluebird.
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Speaker 5: And this is somebody moving the car. I think it's
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Speaker 5: around ten thirty in the morning.
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Speaker 6: I might be off by an hour or so there,
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Speaker 6: but they have the window down. The car's super dirty.
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Speaker 6: You can tell it hasn't been moved in an extremely
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Speaker 6: long time. They did the windshil wipers once or twice
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Speaker 6: to give her man it's a lighter skinned them with
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Speaker 6: wearing red you know, sleeves in the red tape of Jersey.
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Speaker 8: So sounds like Leo, one of his best friends who
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Speaker 8: has not been charged, who appeared at the grand jury,
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Speaker 8: who is not a person of interest.
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Speaker 1: Steve fish Er, what is the date of that video
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Speaker 1: we're showing right now.
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Speaker 5: July twenty ninth five and this is the date, this
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Speaker 5: is last.
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Speaker 1: You're saying the windows were rolled down and it's coming
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Speaker 1: out of D fourvd's mansion. Do you believe that Celeste
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Speaker 1: was already her body was already in the front the
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Speaker 1: front trunk.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes.
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Speaker 6: Why because they leave that is this is the last
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Speaker 6: day that the car is driven. They leave that evening,
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Speaker 6: early in the evening, late afternoon on a tour bus
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Speaker 6: for the first leg of the tour, which starts in
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Speaker 6: Santa Barbara and ironically in Santa Barbara, I'm sorry, San Francisco, and.
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Speaker 5: So this is it. They leave and they're not back
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Speaker 5: for until the search warrant. After that search warrant was executed.
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Speaker 6: Now somebody is back, not David, but somebody is in
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Speaker 6: that house the day before the search horns executed. And
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Speaker 6: we don't know we haven't narrow down to two people,
25:16
Speaker 6: but we don't know exactly who.
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Speaker 5: But David and is out on tour and doesn't come
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Speaker 5: back before she's found.
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Speaker 1: What an idgit? All the digital evidence ordering from Amazon,
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Speaker 1: Postmates Uber where he lured her, according to these documents,
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Speaker 1: Isn't that true? Susan Hendricks that the night we believe
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Speaker 1: she was murdered, DFOURV the orders an Uber for her.
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Speaker 1: She arrives at his home and she's never seen again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, using everything that we may use every day, as
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Speaker 2: you said, Amazon and Uber, having her delivered to his home,
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Speaker 2: knowing exactly what he was going to do. And it's
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Speaker 2: gutrushing to think. Just to baby eleven. As we mentioned,
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Speaker 2: her body was discovered. I learned September eighth and her birthday.
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Speaker 2: She would have turned fifteen September seventh. He threw away
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Speaker 2: like crash. How long was she in that car? It's
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Speaker 2: just excruciating to think about.
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Speaker 1: You stated, he threw her away like trash after he
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Speaker 1: ordered her up like a pizza delivery, like he's ordering Chinese.
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Speaker 1: He just orders an uber. She comes over that night
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Speaker 1: we believe he killed her. According to these bombshell documents
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Speaker 1: and out to you, Joseph Scott Morgan, he goes to
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Speaker 1: the trouble of ordering a blue inflatable kittie pool to
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Speaker 1: use so she won't bleed on his floor. But guess what,
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Speaker 1: he didn't get rid of all the blood, did he?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 3: I think that it's probably an empiric CLEMPO possibility. You
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Speaker 3: know why, because she was rendered according to what they're saying.
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Speaker 3: Nancy and I've worked cases and they are some of
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Speaker 3: the most brutal cases that you can encounter from a
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Speaker 3: rendering standpoint. This is critical in a sense that just
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Speaker 3: let me give you one quick stat actually moves at
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Speaker 3: anywhere from twelve thousand at the top end of fifteen
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Speaker 3: thousand rpm. That's revolutions per minute. What the me is
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Speaker 3: saying relative to the report, they're talking about how the
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Speaker 3: edges are clean. And I have a lot of questions
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Speaker 3: about this when I read the autopsy report, thinking about, well,
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Speaker 3: that's probably reasons you're seeing this embedded plastic on the
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Speaker 3: surface of these injuries. And one more thing here they
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Speaker 3: alleged that he had done this in the garage. Now
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Speaker 3: I don't know how thoroughly they were able to clean up,
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Speaker 3: but they had to have recovered something, and Nancy, he himself,
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Speaker 3: whoever the perpetrator was, would have absolutely been covered in
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Speaker 3: all of this debris off of her body.
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Speaker 1: Well, look at page six, Joe Scott, page six inside
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Speaker 1: the garage to take this discovered evidence consistent with what
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Speaker 1: happened to the victim's body. The rendering in the inflatable pool,
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Speaker 1: they find biological samples positive for blood corrupt collected in
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Speaker 1: the garage. DNA confirms it matches victim Celeste. So I
28:44
Speaker 1: don't care how much he hosed out the garage. His
28:47
Speaker 1: garden hose is no match for DNA collection, especially with
28:51
Speaker 1: the way that she was killed, the blood that is
28:56
Speaker 1: flying around, hitting everywhere in that garage. Also, there's a
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Speaker 1: ton of digital evidence that we're hearing about Susan Hendricks.
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Speaker 1: What else jumps out at you tonight out of this
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Speaker 1: document that we've just obtained.
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Speaker 2: Less than twenty four hours later, after allegedly murdering her,
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Speaker 2: he goes to the opening of his album at the
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Speaker 2: one hundred Thieves Cash app compound. He's out there partying
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Speaker 2: and as I mentioned the motives, they were arguing on
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Speaker 2: the twenty second, twenty third comes around, gets the uber,
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Speaker 2: brings her to his house. He knows what he's doing,
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Speaker 2: kills her, acts like nothing happens, and only thinks about
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Speaker 2: is getting rid of her. That's it, and himself goes
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Speaker 2: to a.
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Speaker 1: Law and then goes and parties. Look at that Steve Fisher,
29:44
Speaker 1: we're showing a shot of the party you first told
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Speaker 1: us about Steve. These are your photos. What happened?
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Speaker 6: Somehow he is within twenty four hours, you know, out
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Speaker 6: celebrating in what dinn are stand and maybe Joseph can
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Speaker 6: se before this? Can you even clean the scene up
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Speaker 6: within this amount of time before he's at this party
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Speaker 6: to the point where you know, LAPD when they come
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Speaker 6: out and did that search more, they didn't turn it
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Speaker 6: into a major crime scene.
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Speaker 5: They didn't.
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Speaker 6: They weren't in teviek suits after they found some you know,
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Speaker 6: they were only there a few hours. So I'm confused
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Speaker 6: how he was able to clean it so well by
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Speaker 6: himself and then have a party the next night that
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Speaker 6: started at nine pm, not super late. So I still
30:23
Speaker 6: have a lot of questions after this Apodavid or after.
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Speaker 1: I've got a question about how he was out there
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Speaker 1: partying after he just murdered and rendered a little girl
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Speaker 1: and he's partying, I mean career before all. There was
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Speaker 1: no way in h doublel he was going to let
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Speaker 1: a little thirteen year old girl destroy his world tour
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Speaker 1: and his album drop. Oh no, nothing will get in
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Speaker 1: the way of that. Well, how does life without Parole
30:54
Speaker 1: or the California death penalty. Feel now, David Anthony Burt,
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Speaker 1: you could think about that as you await trial. To
31:02
Speaker 1: everyone listening tonight, if you know or think you know
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Speaker 1: anything regarding the murder of this little girl, Celeste Rivas,
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Speaker 1: please dial two one three four eight six six' eight
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Speaker 1: nine zero repeat two one three four eight six six' eight.
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Speaker 1: Nine zero we Remember an American, Hero Officer, Michael Wall La, County,
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Speaker 1: probation california passed away in the line of duty after,
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Speaker 1: fourteen years leaving behind his daughter sentenced to life, Without,
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Speaker 1: Dad aubrey American Hero Officer. Michael wall thank you to,
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Speaker 1: our guest but especially to you for being with us
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Speaker 1: and our search to bring Justice. To Celeste nancy grace,
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Speaker 1: signing Off but i'll see you, tomorrow night and, until
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Speaker 1: then good, night friend