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Mondo Gonzales: Historic Shifts And Prophetic Times · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hey friends, family and Christ, thank you so much for tuning in, God bless you.
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  So I was talking to Mondo Gonzales before we got on the podcast, and since I watched
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  the show, Prophecy Watchers, and I check out that on TV, I recorded certain episodes,
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  and it seems like I see him more often, and then I realized the last time we had him on
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  World View Matters, it was the night before his daughter's wedding, I think.
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  So anyway, he's got a new book out, I want to direct you to it right away.
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  It's called The Mystery of the Red Heifer, which we'll talk a little bit about today.
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  Israel, the End Times, and the building of the third temple, perfect stuff going on,
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  signs all around us.
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  Mondo Gonzales, welcome back to World View Matters, so good to see you brother.
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  It's great to be here.
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  Appreciate it.
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  Yeah, isn't that funny that it's been longer than that both of us seem to remember?
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  For sure.
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  Yeah, is that a sign we're getting a little older, maybe not?
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  Probably.
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  Probably.
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  All right, well congrats on the new book, we'll talk about that in a minute.
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  Before we do, you've got a conference in October, victory in Jesus, that's going to be in Oklahoma.
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  My goodness, all those speakers, I was telling you, I wish I could go, but let's talk about
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  it, just tell people about how can they get more info.
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  Yeah, it's going to be a great time.
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  We have 22 different speakers, and again, most people's favorites that are going to come.
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  So people will not have a lack of options, so to speak, as Americans, we like options,
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  but it's going to be October night through 12th, right here, near here in Norman, Oklahoma.
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  So it's not flying in, it's really easy, Oklahoma City, and people go to prophecywatchers.com,
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  they'll see the banner there.
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  And if people don't want to come, they can certainly go live stream as well.
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  So we always try to make the option live stream because there is so many, and many times
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  we have two rooms going at the same time.
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  And so it's like, oh man, I want to see both of these guys at once.
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  So we like to have the live stream option for people to watch it anytime they want.
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  So maybe a silly question, but after the conference, are there DVDs available?
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  Yes, we immediately come back, get all this together, co-late them, and do it, and so the
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  DVD collection for those that like it will be available, usually about six, eight weeks
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  after.
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  Okay, so you don't have to miss a speaker.
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  All right, so that's prophecywatchers.com.
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  So Mando, very fascinating story out of Israel, and let's segue from that into your book
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  to start off here.
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  Red Heifer that was raised in Israel, apparently was disqualified for sacrifice after, this is
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  the headline.
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  After two black hairs were found on its body, and it was used in a practice burning ceremony
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  for priests.
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  We've got just a very brief video of it, and there it is, the burning red heifer.
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  So explain to me why this is significant and what's going on here.
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  So this is actually quite incredible because, you know, going back to September of 2022,
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  you had five cows, five red heifers come from Texas, they were flown over, much, much fan
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  fare.
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  I mean, it was in the news.
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  You know, we've talked about it, but the ceremony hasn't happened.
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  So people are wondering, hey, what's going on with the ceremony?
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  Well, these particular red heifers were born in 21.
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  So, you know, they're going to be four years old.
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  There is no upper age limit.
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  So people ask about that.
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  There's no upper age limit, but you have to be two years, they had to be two years in
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  one month old.
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  So, they've been sitting around.
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  Well, as they discussed having the ceremony, actually, they were planning on having the
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  ceremony in April of 24, you know, a little over a year ago.
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  And then, of course, everything happened with October 7, of 2023, so that put a stop
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  on everything.
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  Well, ebbs and flows, what's going to happen?
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  Are they going to do it?
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  Well, Bonae Israel, if people go to bonaeisrael.com, B-O-N-E-H, it's a group that purchased
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  the cows and they decided out of nowhere to do a practice ceremony with one of these cows.
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  Now, it was not on the location, so we know it wasn't the real ceremony, but it's
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  pretty clear that it looks like it was up in Samaria, which is where the other cows
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  are.
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  So, they just posted a video and it was like, whoa, check this out.
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  And there is, I'll just say this, that Bonae Israel, they put out a public statement by
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  Rinstenson, who I reached out to, he's the one that was pretty much helped purchase
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  the cows.
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  He said, we're coming out with an educational video on this very, very soon.
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  Well then, keep an eye out, because we want to help explain what they just did with
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  the ceremony or with this practice ceremony.
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  Wow.
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  This is fascinating to me, and I know you wrote about it, and here it's coming, which in
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  the news again, you didn't plan that, but it's a great publicity for your book, the mystery
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  of the Red Heifer.
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  So explain, Mondo, for maybe some newer viewers, or maybe people younger in the faith that
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  go, what, what, Red Heifer third temple, what's this all about?
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  Can you just give a basic overview why this is significant prophetically?
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  Absolutely, and I appreciate that, because, you know, as I have been talking about the
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  last couple of days, people are, are, make a comment, there's nowhere in the New Testament
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  or the Bible that predicts that there's a Red Heifer sacrifice and, or in a ceremony.
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  And you go, okay, I agree with that, but here's why it's important is the, the Red Heifer
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  ceremony is in the book of Numbers, chapter 19.
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  So this is a biblical thing that the priests would do again, going back to Moses in Numbers
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  19, because long story short, that in order to participate in the temple in the Old Testament,
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  you had to be richly pure.
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  Well, that's where the Red Heifer comes in, and God gave this prescription where they
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  would burn the Red Heifer, it would not a sacrifice, so be careful, it's not a sacrifice.
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  It doesn't happen on the temple altar, it happens outside of it.
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  So they know that it was offered on the Mount of Olives, and so you would, you would offer
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  this, you'd burn this cow, you would take the ashes, you'd mix it with water, and then
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  they use it to sprinkle the people and the, and the, the implements and the vessels for
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  temple use.
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  So think about it from a Jewish perspective, like a non-believing Jew.
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  They believe very clearly that they need to rebuild the third temple.
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  We know, according to prophecy, not only Daniel, Paul, John, and Jesus, that there, a third
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  temple will be rebuilt, okay, as we get towards the end of the age.
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  Well, all that's pretty much in place, and, but what they do, what they need is, well,
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  we have all the things in place for the temple, but we need the Red Heifer.
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  That's why they're doing this, and the Red Heifer coming into, is an indirect prophecy,
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  so to speak, that when we see the Red Heifer getting, getting motion, that's the last
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  thing they need in order to use a coming third temple, and that's the ashes of the Red Heifer.
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  That's why it's prophetically important.
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  So when we see this happening right now, it is very, very poignant to prophecy watchers,
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  because this is one of the, this is the last remaining element, for sure.
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  So the fact that they're practicing it right now, they weren't doing this 20 years ago,
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  50 years ago, 100 years ago, they're doing it now.
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  It's just fascinating, fascinating, my goodness.
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  So I'm looking at Hebrews here, I mean, he's looking at Hebrews 9, and of course we're familiar
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  with verse 14 where it says, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal
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  spirit offered himself on blemish to God, purify our consciences from works of death,
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  so that we may serve the living God, the verse right before that mentions for if the blood of
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  goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonial, I'm ceremonial
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  unclean, sanctify them so that their bodies are clean.
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  Now let's talk about why ashes sprinkled and not blood.
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  Can you talk a little bit about that?
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  Yes. So what you have in the Old Testament, which we don't really think about this as Christians,
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  because we don't go to a physical location to do offerings.
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  We just think in terms of, are my sins forgiven, and we know Hebrews 10 verse 4 that the blood of
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  bulls and goats in the Old Testament does not take away sin. That is only the blood of Jesus.
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  And so, but why were the sacrifices then? Well, the sacrifices were there as a rehearsal
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  pointing to the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus, but for a Jewish person under the Old Testament,
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  there was two things. One was forgiveness of sins, but the other one was ritual purity.
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  And so the ashes are meant to fix ritual impurity. So, for example, if you were getting ready to go
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  to travel to Jerusalem and you were going to celebrate and participate in Passover or the feast
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  of weeks, the Pentecost. But a week before your dad died, well, you're in the house, boom,
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  you become ritually impure. Now you are forbidden to come onto the temple precincts and to participate.
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  And God says, hey, I'm going to give you a way to remove that impurity of a dead of a corpse.
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  And that was through the ashes of the red heifer. So, but as a Christian, we don't need to think
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  that way. And so let me just clarify one other thing is that when I'm talking about this,
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  I'm not endorsing it. I'm not promoting it. I'm simply trying to explain what the Jewish
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  rabbis are doing. They don't realize they're fulfilling prophecy and building a third temple that we
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  know. And so when I get excited about it, it's not for that because we know Jesus is the final
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  sacrifice. But the Jews, these Jewish rabbis, they don't believe that yet. I believe they will in
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  the future. And so for them, they're still living under the old covenant law. And I think that
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  they're confused in that regard. Again, I don't mean that offensively, but they're still living under
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  the old covenant. But as Christians, we know we know better. We have the new covenant scriptures
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  that show that Jesus's work on the cross was complete and sufficient. Yes, his sacrifice once
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  for all. So where's the best place? I know it's on Amazon, but can you, you can get it the prophecy
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  watchers store as well. Yeah, people want to support us rather than Jeff Bezos. They can get it here.
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  The mystery of the red heifer. Awesome. So people can get it there. Just fascinating.
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  This whole topic to me is always very intriguing. So Israel, the end times and the building of the
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  third temple, the red heifer. I remember that story too when they shipped those from Texas and
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  didn't hear much about it after that. So let's move on here. It's one by very fast as it usually does.
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  Let's talk about the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin. And when people hear that word, Sanhedrin, they think,
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  hmm, one of the gospels maybe and getting ready to crucify Christ or the different beliefs and
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  the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin. But now there's a brand new story, a news item that you sent me.
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  There are apparently they sent a very strong letter of support to President Trump. And
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  unwavering support for the president, commending his foreign policy stance, particularly regarding
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  Iran, Iran and Gaza. Tell us a little bit more about this. Mando, and I appreciate you sending
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  this and alerting me to this. Yeah, we see that the Sanhedrin really began to be reconstituted
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  going back to the early 2000s. And so it's kind of Edmund Flow. It's not officially recognized by
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  the state of Israel. But in the rabbinic movement, they are looking again to this group is looking
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  to reestablish their authority, which as you mentioned, they were the supreme authority, the supreme
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  court, the baked din, the house of judgment that you see in what we'd understand in the first
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  century. So they were the ones that pronounced judgment on Jesus. And so as they're coming to be
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  reconstituted now in our present day after Israel being out of the land for 1850 plus years,
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  I mean, we're living in again, very exciting times that weren't here 50 years ago. So what they do,
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  what they've been doing is they love Trump. They love Trump not, they love Trump because Trump's
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  been friendly to Israel for sure, even going back to his first administration when he moved the
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  the embassy from Tel Aviv to Israel. Remember, you can get the Trump coin. They minted the Trump
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  coin as they were part of that. And so today what they're doing is they're basically reaching out
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  to Trump and saying, listen, you have the opportunity to be Cyrus, to be again, the anointed one,
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  like we see in Isaiah 44 and 45. And there's a calling on your life. So they're trying to encourage
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  him to be the one that helps bring about the rebuilding of the third temple. And so this letter is
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  a letter of support to him and to behind him in that way. Yeah, interesting. By the way, King
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  Cyrus, I'd encourage our viewers and listeners to read Isaiah 44, 45. I think of other presidents
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  from America that helped in a time of need, Richard Nixon helped go to my air, go back to Harry
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  Truman, who in 1948, but from this article, it says, in which country in the world do they call
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  for death to America in parliament and in rallies in the streets? And which countries preparing
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  ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons? So they're trying to make, in other words,
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  they're defending Trump's recent actions against trying to take out those nuclear sites in Iran.
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  Talk a little bit about that, if you would. Yeah, absolutely. Because I mean, they recognize,
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  which against unfortunately some of the legacy media doesn't, is that it's no surprise.
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  Iran has said clearly against in all of their political statements, death to America, death to
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  America. And so in there, and they also know this that you can look at the media, the media seeks
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  to crucify Trump at every turn. And the Sanhedrin is saying, listen, we're behind you. We're going
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  to stand with you. We see what's going on. Also, thank you for defending Israel because according
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  to Iran, Israel is the little Satan and America is the great Satan. So they recognize the importance
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  of what Trump has done. And when you have a country like Iran calling for again, existential
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  destruction, again, the Sanhedrin knows that God has called Trump at this specific time
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  to help keep their existence, not that God needs Trump. God doesn't. Israel will still be around.
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  But even the Sanhedrin here knows that. So I think in many ways, we know that Trump
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  like him or not, but you can feed his ego. And so the Sanhedrin are doing that. And so,
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  you know what? What Trump did, I think, was right. And for even if you take religion out of it,
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  he was protecting a democracy, one of the only democracies in the Middle East and helping to
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  keep them, again, protecting their borders. Yeah, we have to take a brief pause with Mondo Gonzalez.
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  But first, from that article, just just to wrap it up, but they also said, criticized President
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  Carter, who changed the regime in Iran and caused great wars and suffering. That's a quote from
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  the article. And then the letter that they sent sharply criticized the Obama administration's
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  nuclear deal with Iran. And so they're thrilled to see President Trump doing some of the things
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  he's doing right back with Mondo Gonzalez in just a minute. Today's show is brought to you by
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  Okay, Mondo, more news out of Israel. Explain the significance of what they're calling a
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  historic shift where Jews are permitted to sing and dance openly on the Temple Mount.
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  Fascinating to me because of the controversy of, you know, the struggle over the Temple Mount,
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  but tell us about this. Yeah, I wrote a full chapter on this in my book describing why things
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  are different right now than they were, again, even 20 years ago, because we're looking at things
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  prophetically as it relates to the rebuilding of the Third Temple. And going back to 1967,
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  I will keep it short, but you go back to 1967 when the Israeli Army recaps your Jerusalem
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  from the Jordanians. Immediately, they rejoiced the Jews fled up onto the Temple Mount.
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  But then one of the generals, his name is Moshe Deon, an atheist by his own admission,
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  said, you know what, we're going to give control of the Temple Mount right back to the religious
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  Muslims. And you're like, what? And so what you had on that day was before that the rabbis even
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  surprisingly, they did not, they had a ban. It was an official policy of the rabbinic movement.
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  The Jews were not allowed to go up on the Temple Mount. Not because they didn't, they claimed
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  to the Temple Mount because they didn't want anybody defiling the Temple Mount and any Jew to do
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  that. So that was kind of the law for 30, 40 years. Well, then other rabbinic movements began to
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  challenge that and say, no, we need to, we need to, in our, in our desire to reclaim the Temple Mount
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  and ultimately build the Temple, we need to start showing our, our, our authority, our sovereignty
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  over it. So in Amar Ben Gavir, who's the national security minister minister, what you, what you saw
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  there, when he came to power along with Netanyahu in December of 22, he immediately went up on the
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  Temple Mount and he began to challenge the status quo because it has been illegal for Jews to pray
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  on the Temple. It's actually illegal for Christians as well. But now they, because of the latest
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  political movements and he has really enforced the police not to enforce the prohibition.
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  So to see them and that's him right there in the, in the middle, to see them going up and singing
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  and dancing openly, that is huge. It's not in that way ever. Yes, it's interesting. And so what do
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  you attribute this, this shift in policy enforcement maybe where they're suddenly allowed to do this?
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  Well, ultimately nothing changes unless it is allowed by Netanyahu. And so I think what they're
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  doing now, and I don't think this would have happened. Honestly, it was not happening until October 7.
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  With Hamas doing what they did, again murdering Jews and babies and you name it, beheading people,
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  all the horrible things on October 7. And of course you have the war in Gaza. What you see now is
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  Netanyahu has begun to shift his, his policies in, you see an expansion of the settler movement again
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  in Judea and Samaria. And then also you see now a shift in the temple mount. So I think he's allowing
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  in a mar, Ben Gavir, to, to push on this status quo. So that is huge. I think it's 100% in response
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  to showing Israeli sovereignty over the temple mount. And again, it began, it began really with October
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  7. That's a response. So I want to jump to the next topic. It's not really a different topic,
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  but and that is understanding Christian Zionism. What you sent me, a sentence from an email that
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  you sent me, many in the church don't understand what it means to support Israel. And also to be
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  critical when warranted. So in other words, we don't have a blanket support for everything Israel
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  does. It's a secular nation. But biblically, we know there are gods chosen people. Talk to us
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  briefly about just the, that support and understanding Christian Zionism because there's a lot of
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  confusion out there, even in the church. Yeah, there really is. And I, somebody said recently,
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  I was, I was around them. They said, you know, one of the false doctrines of the church is Christian
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  Zionism. And, and, and then I asked another gentleman, I said, what's your definition of Christian
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  Zionism? And he said, well, it's Israel can do whatever they want. And as a Christian, I have to
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  support it. I was like, well, if that's Christian Zionism, then that I'm not one of those. So,
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  yes, let's, let's summarize it because this is very confusing when, when we talk about Israel
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  being God's chosen people, that doesn't mean that they're saved, okay? It means chosen in the
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  Bible means to be separate. And today, when we see God has brought the Jewish people back,
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  they're living in the land of Israel. They are currently not in a state of salvation. They're in a
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  state of rejection of Jesus Christ. We sub-savations only through him. And so, what I tell people is,
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  we're in biblical times. And what I mean by that is, for example, if you go to the Book of Judges,
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  it says there that everybody did what was right in their own eyes because there was no king in Israel.
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  So we see it's horrible when you read the Book of Judges. They're cutting up concubines and
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  said, it's just horrible. You read it. But here's the thing. Did they stop being God's chosen people
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  during the Book of Judges? No. Was, was the whole state of the nation of Israel saved? No,
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  never in history, even with Israel, have nations been saved collectively or corporately. There's,
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  it's always individual salvation. But Israel was separated from, again, the nations of the world,
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  they were God's people, but you still had to be saved individually. So that's really important.
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  Chosen this there, corporally does not mean salvation. So when we look at Israel today,
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  why do I support Israel? Well, I support Israel's right to the land because God made promises in
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  Deuteronomy 9 to them, to the patriarchs. But that doesn't mean that everything that this secular
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  nation is doing is right. And I have no problem criticizing Israel as a state when they do something
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  wrong and even criticizing their rejection of Jesus. So, but if you say, do you believe they have
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  a right to the land, that yes, they do. Do you believe, well, they do they deserve to be there?
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  They've never deserved to be in the land. Re-deuteronomy 9, ever, ever, ever, ever. So I think if we make
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  a distinction that as a Christian, I support God's promises to Israel and that there is a future for
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  them. Right now, they're in a state of rebellion. But in the future, Romans 11, 26, all Israel will be saved
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  in the future. I'm glad you had me at the very beginning. Great explanation, by the way. Thank you.
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  Chosen or separated, not saved. That's very important distinction. So finally,
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  one more article we can get to before we run out of time. And that is,
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  Sheiks in Hebron make unprecedented call to break from Palestinian authority and seek peace
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  with Israel. Mando, this is another one of those kind of, I guess, head scratcher, but I
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  open her. All right. Tell us about this. This, this is a really an actual phenomenal breakthrough.
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  And I think this, again, this challenges oftentimes the narrative of what you see that the Palestinian
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  authority, the PA is what handles all of the administration in what is known as the West Bank
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  or Judean Samaria. And then of course, Hamas got voted in in 2007 down in Gaza. So the PA and
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  Hamas, the Gaza Strip have really operated as two separate entities for sure. You can almost call
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  them two states, in a sense, even though they're not an official state. But in in Hebron, which is
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  in Judea, these, these families, these, these Sheiks who are again, they are serious Muslims. These
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  are not woke. They're not left, you know, in the sense of liberal Muslims. They have come to
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  realize that PA is corrupt. We don't want anything to do with them. And so we are reaching out
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  directly to Israel that, and this is, this isn't a small group. This represents 500,000 people.
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  Wow. Which is a big chunk. Israel only has nine million. And so this is a big chunk of the
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  population. But for them to seek to normalize relations with Israel and possibly even be annexed
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  in some degree, allowing them to come under the umbrella and protection of Israel proper rather
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  than the Palestinian Authority. I mean, this is absolutely tremendous, especially when you think
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  about the addition of the Abrahamic Accords, that whole idea. Wow. It just, just some of these
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  things that we, it's hard to keep up with everything. But when you see stories like this and headlines
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  going things are shifting. And I know it starts in the spiritual first. And then it's, you know,
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  manifesting here. But we're just from the article under the plan outlined in the letter that
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  proposed Emirate of Hebron would recognize the state of Israel as the nation state of the Jewish
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  people. You read that. You go, my goodness. It's astounding, isn't it? It's again, it's unprecedented.
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  But it's not surprising. And I'll make a comment here that a lot of people at school is just part of,
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  you know, the Daniel 927, you know, the covenant with the Antichrist. And I don't think so at all,
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  because in fact, Daniel 927, I don't think that's a peace agreement. There's nothing in there that
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  says it's a peace agreement. I think this is contributing more prophetically to the circumstances that we
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  see in Ezekiel 38, where you have a war with Russia, Turkey, and Iran coming against Israel,
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  because it describes there that as that war approaches, Israel's going to be in a place of security,
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  dwelling. It doesn't use the word peace there, but relatively quietly and securely. So all of this
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  Abrahamic Accord discussion and this, things are shifting in Israel's favor here to come to that.
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  I think that prophetic requirement. Wow. So it's just very, very interesting. A great
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  information, Mando. I really appreciate your work, prophecywatchers.com. The conference
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  coming to Norman Oklahoma in October. And make sure friends you check out at the website,
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  the mystery of the Red Heifer. Brand new book. I mean, just in the past several months.
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  It's great information there. And talk about timely, especially with that story with the ceremony
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  that just happened. This is really interesting. So brother, we really appreciate all you do,
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  and we'll have to connect again in the near future, not wait again, because there's so much that
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  goes on. It's just great to get this information out there. So thanks, brother, for all you do.
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  Amen. Thanks for having me. You're most welcome, Mando. All right, friends, so much going on,
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  and we don't need to keep up with everything in the world, but just be discerning, be rooted,
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  and grounded in the truth of God's word, and look through that biblical lens, cast your cares
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  over on the Lord, and just do your work as an ambassador for Christ. It's not get out of our,
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  our roles as believers in this day and time. But thank you again for watching, listening,
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  and sharing. God bless you, and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.