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Leclerc 1 Stops His Way to Italian GP Victory | Italian GP Recap - Fast Laps with the Boys | Baku Preview · Banter with the Boys

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At least up let's go it's time for Banter with the boys
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Yo, welcome back to another episode of banter with the boys fast laps coming at you with another
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F1 race come and gone
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We had Monza this week fellas and obviously we will be
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Previewing Azerbaijan as well. I said that right you did Azerbaijan. Yeah, as your as your by Azerbaijan
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You don't say Baku. That's just easier Rosetta Stone by Joe
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anyway
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Like always our co-host Joe here with us Joe. How's your week been so far? We've been good so far
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Yeah, that's the wrong person, but I guess on behalf of coal. Yeah, right weeks good weather's nice. It's cool
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No, the weather's raining again. Oh, yeah, I started it just so I did yeah, I did just start
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Yeah, but yeah pretty good coming from the temple of speed of Monza going into Baku
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I it's kind of weird having it this late in the year because it's usually like the third or fourth race
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Yeah, so I'm looking forward to it. I love that track. It's very technical very very close corner
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So it should be fun for sure for sure and of course across the table
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We're blessed with the presence of coal like we have been all season
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I still gotta ask you how your weeks been cuz I got nothing else for you, but how's your week been good?
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I mean stay with the status quo. Yeah, we touched on it, but it's raining again today, so
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It's on par. Yeah, it's on par for for part of these episodes. Yeah for sure for sure
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It's always raining for f1 and of course last but not least I always forget to mention them
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Kev who's off-camera who makes this whole thing happen. Thanks for doing everything you do Kev
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Anyway, clap. All right. All right. There it is
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Um, we love them more than that. Trust me. Anyway, let's dive right into the Monza recap
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It was hot. It was hot a little hotter than kind of the past few races
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Obviously the races in the desert those get a little warm, too
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But I just felt like it was worth mentioning is a little hotter tire degradation was it was a big deal this race
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Whether it was the heat I doubt it probably a mix of everything
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Some teams fared better than others
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One driver fared better than others and Charles gets the dub there
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As well as driver of the day
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Ferrari as a whole not so bad not so bad a bit of a surprise actually in their in their home race
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Charles winning I guess you could say quote-unquote. I think the Sky Sports announcers even said it quote-unquote another his second home race of the year
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Did we really expect Ferrari to come out there and
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Let alone be on the podium, but get the win
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No, but thinking about that too
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I mean I was thinking about this actually during the race when you just brought up these said science in the top three
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No, it's all right away Charles is a
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Second overall for Ferrari racer to have more than for ten multiple wins at Monza
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I'm sorry. You're gonna have to play that back for me
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Okay, so Charles has two wins at Monza right in a Ferrari car sure the highest is seven Schumacher
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Okay, yeah, but he's like he's the second highest as far as we mean Ferrari has seven wins
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No driver in a Ferrari car
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It's Ferrari's track. I don't know. I don't know what's happening for like we it's Ferrari's track, but he's been very good there
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So yeah, he's continuously perform there. Yeah, and he did it again, so it's pretty cool
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It's awesome to see I I think that Piastri kind of messed up a bit
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I think I know sorry McLaren messed up a bit in their strategy. Oh, yeah
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um
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It's it's tough. I was not I was very surprised with the way it ended up
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No, I think you mentioned this Joe he was a one-stopper he Charles. Yeah, yeah
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He was the only one everyone pitted
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Because everyone was having the exact same tire issue even Charles was having that tire issue
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But he decided to stay on it sent it and he was able to outlast
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Piastri wasn't able to catch him so that rare Ferrari strategy dub just coming in clutch for Charles
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Could you imagine if you if you're just off that racing line just a little bit especially towards the end of the race
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You're driving on marbles at that point. Did you guys see that as I zoomed in there's just the marbles
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I mean we see it every race right but like this race of you could really see it on on TV
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You know me not to jump off of
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Charles so fast, but thinking about like the race and kind of how it all panned out
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Pi
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If you pull jumping to McLaren go go for it. I say Astrid Norris mm-hmm on turn three yep crazy
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Yeah at the beginning of the race. Yeah, yeah, man. I'm like that. It wasn't even caught
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I mean, I don't know what you guys think I don't know how to process that one
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I love nor is so much more than pastries so sure yeah
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It was like kind of a cutoff, but it was also just racing
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I do think he squeezed for them being teammates probably a little too risky for that to happen, but he made it stick
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It's unfortunate that Lando got so caught out by it like he lost two places
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Yeah, um but I guess all is fair in racing. It's so early in the race team orders really shouldn't be put into play that early
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I don't think but I think I definitely want to talk about that a little more. Yeah, eventually for sure
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But it was it was yeah
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I was interesting to watch definitely a moment where I was just like head in the hands like Lando just cannot catch a break on
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These first lives for real for real. It was a better start for him at least definitely off the line. He was good
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Yeah, it was decent and then man Piazzari just got that run and just he didn't back out. That's the thing
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Yeah, Astri was aggressive through that through that whole turn everything. He was aggressive. He was like
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No, I don't really care and like you said
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I don't think you should ever have team orders that early like let him race it out
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But that's probably the line if there's a fine line that was it right there
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Yeah
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And you probably cost McLaren a one two because if they get out in front after that they're not
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Bottleneck and pushing each other back and they get out in front there. They're just gonna go it's tough. It's tough
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They just go though. Hmm. They probably do possibly right instead of the Ferrari splitting them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's very possible
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Especially if Norris gets ahead again because we've already seen his pace
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It's definitely better than Piazzari's and that car is so good in clean air
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Yeah, it is possible that Charles doing a one-stop may not have mattered because Lando is so fast
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We're in there like that wasn't plan a for Charles. Oh, no, you know, so like they resorted to that because of the gap because of
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All the mess ups all the pits
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Wouldn't have had to do that. Yeah, and you had a bigger gap
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I mean, I think you cost him one two there and that I think that hurts McLaren more overall
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I think all in all we saw strategies changing across all the yes, so much this race
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I mean it almost reminded me of a wet race, you know where strategies just nope ABC, you know, you just check them off
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Yeah, no, that's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. But Joe, what were you gonna say about McLaren strategy?
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Oh, yeah, we can kind of skip to McLaren just really quick. Um, we're in McLaren. Yeah, we're in McLaren now
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It's no offense to Ferrari. There's not
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For once Ferrari raised a good strategic race
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That's yeah, they were like them they were I don't think they were even with McLaren
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But that strategy like Charles he showed why he's a really good driver and why he's sticking around next year
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And there's still something to be said about
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Um, oh wow, I almost called him check all about Carlos finishing for oh, yeah
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I mean, yes, I'm gonna be said about that as well
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So they all in all a great strategy for Ferrari, but sorry for our you stop, correct? He did. Yeah
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Yeah, yes
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But back to McLaren strategy. Yeah, I'm going on to McLaren
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Um kind of talking about that that this team any team orders and they had mentioned something called papaya rules
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Before the race and that was mentioned pretty much throughout the entire race. We don't know exactly what it means, but
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Um, everyone believes yeah, I mean everyone believes and I think it was maybe mentioned a little bit
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Whoever is ahead at a certain point stays ahead for the rest of the race no matter what so
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Is this something that McLaren can afford to keep doing obviously?
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Oscar he deserves a chance to show he like he's a good driver. But here. Hey, okay, so that's that's that's kind of a conversation
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I want to get into um
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What is your what are your guys opinions on having these papaya rules these team orders?
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When it's very possible Lando could be fighting for WDC at the end of the end of the year, right?
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First yeah, this is a bad move. I think okay. I think you got Lando. He's your guy
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I mean right now if you're McLaren if you're brown, right?
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Exactly right now. Yeah, yeah, if you're him
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You are picking Lando, right if you have two drivers, you're like, okay, who are you picking for your future?
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It's a Lando mm-hmm get him the championship
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We talked about it last week on the last time we talked on the show that if
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Lando wins out every race no matter where max finishes he wins
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Max took six yeah, this was a great opportunity
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Great opportunity for big points
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Yeah, to where that he's not stuck taking first every race, but because he took third the gap is so much smaller
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You know it's not a big of it like a jump on him that like I think it's just a bad move
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It's just a bad place
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You're only you're on a win. He only gained what five points I think on max yeah, yeah 15 between 15 and 9
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I think is what I saw maybe I'm wrong, but it wasn't it wasn't enough compared to like if he would have won there
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Is he a 1650? I can't remember. Well, he also got fastest laps. I think it was 16
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Okay, but you you're right. I I was talking about this with a couple people right after the race as well
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and I was thinking
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You know I think
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It's unfair because it's still pretty far away. They still have a while to catch max
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It's you have to you have to think though right right if all those points matter, but
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Later in the year, I think it's definitely crucial that they need to be making these hard decisions and swapping them
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It being still probably
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Almost three-quarters through the year, maybe they can let them race a little more
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You're talking about next season? No this season. No for mcclaren mcclaren versus red bull
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Yes, I agree for mcclaren versus red bull the overall points. They can let let the drivers race
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No, I'm talking about WDC. For WDC no
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I don't think you could do that because max will get more race wins big gaps like this like this most recent race is what elevates
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Orlando in the long term. I think this is a big loss. I think this might even hurt
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Lose him to WDC. I think mcclaren walks away
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with the constructors, but I
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Yeah, I think mcclaren will walk away with it
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But in terms of WDC and them swapping and team order saying we need you to give it to lando because he gets more points
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I think it's just
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I don't think a lando wants that to be the case if oscar is out racing him
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I don't think at the end of the day obviously we all want to be WDC
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But do you want to be WDC because you had to get a place from your teammate every single race
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But there's been multiple races this year where lando like majority of the races this year lando is a better driver except for two
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Arguably in one of them they should have gave to lando so the one two they should have gave to lando that one
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Yes, arguably he was faster like three races ago or whatever. Oh, yeah, when he had a 6-7
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There was that race and this race were the only two arguably where oscar was really better when they were both to the top
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Yeah, that is a that is a scenario where I do think lando probably should have just kept that
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Especially because he had to give up so much
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Time but it was team no knowing what we know now about the team orders and about how he can actually fight for WDC
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He definitely should have kept it. He was so far ahead. He had to slow down so much for for piastry just you know
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It was pastries. It was really it was a really hard situation because it was pastries first win as well
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So it was you know, and I and I don't want to talk about that race because we definitely talked about it
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But like I agree like
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For oscar, I would have felt some type of way winning in that sense
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It's not going to feel the same. You're still gonna you know, yeah, I got my first f1 win
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I'm sure but like it probably still didn't feel as
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As good. I don't know. But anyway, anyway, I think they should absolutely let lando the number one driver
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No matter what the rest of the season. We're trying to get lando in that in contention for WDC
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I agree that this race probably may take him out of that contention at this point
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Such a great opportunity to jump on max with him finishing p6
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But next year, I think you let him race a little bit to start the season
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You know, I mean, that's what they did at the start. I think no matter what they I agree with you guys
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I think no matter what they probably are gonna catch constructors and we'll touch on that but you have to
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Look at it like this if this was max
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And czecho or if this was four years ago
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louis and batas
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How do those team orders look?
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Louis louis louis max max max. Yes, because they know who their main driver is
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They know who they want to win the wdc. They already have that designed
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Are you are you so are you saying that mclaren is questioning who their number one driver is or no?
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We're questioning mclaren someone drivers. I'm saying that I think mclaren is messing up in that aspect
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They need to pick their number one driver and they need to do something about it and make that known that this is our number one driver
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If you want to be a top team, if you want to be a red bull if you want to be a mercedes you have to be a
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Wdc driver if it's if you want to be a top team if you want to be a red bull if you want to be a mercedes you have to like
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Make those tough decisions make them get him the wdc
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Sure, why would like if this like the same thing if it's batas and louis
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We're not having this conversation because louis is winning most of those races, right?
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They're not giving batas back that spot for first probably and landel's winning most of the rest
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We know max isn't giving that spot up. He's multiple times said stop asking me that i'm just going to take the win
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You know, so you think landel should get to that point if they're asking him to give it to oscar like
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Yeah, he kind of already was yeah. I mean he mean, uh, what was it?
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Ungar ring hungry and that's basically where he was. Yeah, dude. I was getting frustrated
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I'm gonna make these mcclaren's gonna make a decision is not 100% right. I'm a claren issue that they need to sort
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I 100 agree with that. I would get i'm gonna get even more specific
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I would say if you're at a certain distance between the two
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Like even if if lando is leading most of the race and oscar
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Is somehow gets ahead of him and maybe there's a bad strategy call or maybe lando messes up somehow and oscar's now ten seconds ahead
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Oscar should not have to slow down 10 seconds to let lando pass him. Yeah, it's just
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just doesn't make sense, but papaya rules as of right now say that he should so
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Right, right. So, yeah, i'd love to hear like, you know if you have more insight into that on the papaya rules
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Yeah, no, like like you're saying you just kind of let some race
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But what those exact details are obviously nobody's gonna know mm-hmm, but do you know why they call it papaya after the fruit?
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Well because the team is orange right right color. It's the same color. It's the same colors. Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's why that's it
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I was like wow I feel like I know it's a pie. We're gonna call it a PR move alright moving on
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Merc Wow cuz I have him in Merck. I was gonna call him mercury unbelievable. I put them as Merc so unbelievable Mercedes
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I'm
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Coming out finishing p5 and p7
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Lewis p5 Russell p7 I felt bad for George a little bit
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He did get the short end of the stick early on the race with that little bit of wing damage
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Definitely affected him big time
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But he was he was able to get seventh at least
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I don't know. I didn't see I didn't see a whole lot from Mercedes here. I think I
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Would have liked to see George beat max, but wasn't it
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Hamilton on the first turn that was bumped out by pastry. No, it was George George. Okay. That's where it happened. Oh, yeah
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Yeah, okay, and he lost places. He lost five places immediately right off the bat. That's tough
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Yeah, and it just got it was just congested there. It is what it is. It wasn't racing deal
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It wasn't a good. I mean they talked about it in the race obviously it's not a good passing track
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And I think that's it's I mean
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Everything changes. I mean if you take away the first lap of that everything's different. You know for a lot of people
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Yeah, it was just one of those every one race almost yeah
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But it's one of those races where there's like a lot of carnage if you will yeah in that first
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Oh, we're gonna talk about our turn buddy in that first five turns, so it's tough. It sucks. I think
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Yeah, we could maybe could have seen Russell or Mercedes up three four
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Yeah, do we do we see them bounce back a little bit next week as we're by John. I don't think this track
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Yeah, I don't think I think I have them I
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I could even have Alonzo battling with them no next track. You don't think so no
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I think I think we still see them we still see them around like the five seven
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I think five as high as five though. Yeah, yeah, I think we still see them there. They're not go
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Yeah, they're not competing for the top three this week though. They're not gonna be neither of them are gonna be my podium
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Can they be can they be Carlos and?
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Probably max you know, but can they can they be Carlos and Max this week?
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I'm sorry. I meant probably Carlos, but I think Maxwell bounce back a bit, but yeah, we'll see I don't know
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I don't know. I think Mercedes is I think they they
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They were like this then they all sudden had that sweet couple weeks
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And now I think they're kind of dropping back down performance wise yeah
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They kind of stalemated. I think they're kind of
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It almost feels like they're just giving up on this year just looking forward into the new regime. They're kind of stuck in four
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They're not they're not in any danger of getting fifth. No, they got they got four locked up. Yeah
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They're gonna get four locked up. They need a crazy end of the season take three. So I think they're kind of stuck there
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I think they're looking towards next year and their lose could reach fifth in the WDC, but
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Does that do anything for a guy? That's not me. Yeah, yeah for a guy. That's a multi-time champion. Oh, yeah
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Yeah, but we'll talk a little bit more about Mercedes
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We'll save some Mercedes talk for a little bit later. We got some news there
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We got some news there moving along to Red Bull
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So I have here like I wanted to be upset with Checo
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finishing P8, but can I really be that upset when your number one drivers finishing p6?
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You know I mean like we talked about that before right? It's not the fact that Checos getting in points
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It's the fact that and Joe's touched on this a lot
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It's the fact that that gap between Verstappen and Checo is just so it's just too wide
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You know I mean so if we get a bad finish from Max can we be that upset that Checo?
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Yeah, it's finishing eighth still though. Yeah, because Max Max raised horribly Max had a bad race
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So that's where check so we're step it up
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So we're but what you're doing right now is comparing you're comparing him
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Max doing a horrible race everything being horrible for Max right everything going better max
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The check goes still only being two behind him and saying okay. Is it a bad race for check?
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Yeah, it's still better. So I go what yeah, it feels like every race in the guy get a ball check
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But you know can the guy get above p5?
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Was it was it the guy was it the car this week get him out of this you know me we're done with them
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We're done. We're just done with Checo. We're done with Checo. It goes. I see you next year. I'm I
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Mean I'll put down this red ball as a fan
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I'm done bandwagoning Red Bull
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Gosh you come here and call me a rebel every week. I'm glad we've established that I was very happy to see both of them
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So low yeah, I will say that but I don't think this is any credit to check out this last week
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No, no, I I don't either I'm just saying like can we be that upset about it?
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I don't know it's I gave him three races right next this coming week. That's race three
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This is kind of open for debate a little bit. I would say his race
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His races are typically pretty like like if he starts in a position. He's usually finishing in that position give or take
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I think it's qualifying is typically what you know messes is not pretty bad, so he started in eighth and he finished in a skill of a
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Driver yeah, exactly
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So he's good enough to compete with
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racing game egg
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But I so no he's not doing what he needs to be doing because he's still in a really good car
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It's obviously not as good as other cars right now, and that's clear as day Max got six
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He was only able to make two places is that should the expectation be for check a white white what should it be?
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I'm saying should should the expectation be should he be bidding be him beating both Mercedes like should that be my vacation?
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Oh and his goal every race should he be considering the Mercedes are kind of he should be qualifying
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Top I think I've said this he'd be qualifying top six or seven. Yeah. Yeah, he's been doing something
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Yeah, well if you can qualify there at this at this rate right now
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if he makes
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If he gets p5 or higher he shocks the world. That's not a good thing in a Red Bull car
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He's gonna come out and start p3 next week next week. It's a street track
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Williams
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Albon getting into points and does anybody know how to say yes, thank you Colapinto Colapinto
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I haven't heard it yet, so I didn't want to mess it up Colapinto. I'm gonna take you word that you're right
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He did good immediately much better than Sarah Sargent
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Yeah, didn't crash made a ton of position a ton made a couple positions
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His first ever f1 weekend like crazy good. I thought he raced great
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Yeah, yeah, he raced great
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I would have I would not have expected anything more from him on his first considering we were dogging the Williams car all year
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Too I'm showing us that it has flashes. It should be like they can hop in and get p12. That's right out the gate good
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That's promising. Yeah, very very promise. You know what was he their reserve driver. Where did he come from? No?
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F2 f2 I believe do yeah, so he's just like
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Right f2. I think he's just pull from after for the rest of the year. It wasn't after he's a Williams
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Academy driver yeah, okay, he has a seat for the rest of the year though, right? Yes
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Yeah, he does he can't go back to f2 now not for the rest of the year. No yeah, definitely not
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But I can't next season oh yeah
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He can I don't think he will I'm sure he'll probably get the Williams reserve spot next
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Yeah, I suppose. I mean that makes I think that that's typically what happens
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What's unfortunate cuz he's gonna be the new Liam Lawson, but now for just get kind of stuck
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He's going to he's going to be able to race for like a couple races half a year
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And then he's gonna be stuck in that reserve spot so really quick. I don't want to go super deep on this
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No, let's do it. You think it's better
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Do you think it's better to be in an a full-time f2 seat then rather than an f1 reserve driver just for experience?
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What's enough on it? Yeah?
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I think you want to be an f1 reserve because you get to do their training right it's like being in
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Triple-a versus MLB right you sit on the bench or something right I think the same thing
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What is a reserved ever make
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Hey, if I'm the backup quarterback, and I'm still doing all right on the bench put me in
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I suppose and I think multiple teams can have the same reserve drivers that it might also mean more
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I don't know if that's gonna be the case for him, and I'm also just speculating. He's gonna be
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Like he could go reserve for Mercedes
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Yeah, I think Jack Doohan was like a reserve driver for multiple people, and I think Oscar was too at one point
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Okay, I mean that makes it a little better than I am you can fact check me in
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More opportunities potentially yeah um when the sergeants of the world are hitting one another
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The world are hitting walls yeah
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I just so but I I say that because I usually see when people get to f1 they race up one for a little bit
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They stay in it. I think it's in some capacity
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I don't see people getting up to the big game and then moving back down
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At least I haven't seen it the big game the big game the big game. Yeah, this way for this spot
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Yeah, right
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I think they have better chance to get that spot from there, but whose question was it whether be f2 or mine, okay?
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I
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It's a great question
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I
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Think F to reserve F1 reserve and great question count. It is a great question any questions one tally one
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I think F1 reserve
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F1 reserve is probably
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Probably priority. I would imagine yeah, yeah
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100% that's what you guys are doing your f1 career. Yeah, like you can't race
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You just don't get to race ever you're just in simulators
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I'm obviously I'm thinking about it
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But I think this guy F1 reserve is gonna be the closest you can get to being an f1
23:53
And that's what you had to do and like you said or one of you said you probably do make more money as a f1
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Reserve than you would as a fraud you would probably
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Yeah, I mean you're getting paid by a bigger team and you're probably better sponsorship deals everything
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So I like you're gonna be more the face you're gonna be out there with the car reveals everything like that
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You're just gonna get more sponsorships, and I like your deal too. You know what I mean like your thanks, buddy
24:13
But I like your point to how is you're with the big squad right you're with all their development team
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You're with you're doing the same workouts as the main drivers. I'd imagine with the same trainer
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You know all that crap so I agree. I think
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F1 reserve driver is the way to go so if there's a space. I don't know find me a well
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K makes got a spot next year
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Let's talk about K make
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No, I'm not serious, but
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Okay, Meg as Joe so lovingly puts it bless his heart came a crashes his way into points go
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That was ridiculous the thing on
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Classic game on ghastly
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Just way too much speed I think it was just like straight-up hit the side of them come on man
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Like and that's why you're not racing next week
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Next year let's touch on that really quick why he's not racing this week he hit the the points threshold
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for penalties
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This season so he's they they actually use the word banned he is banned from
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Azerbaijan this week, so
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That's wild, but this is the carnage point. I wanted to bring up now that he's banned
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So what's after Azerbaijan Singapore?
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Right no yes leave
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I think we determined that we talked about it
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So he'll be back for Singapore
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With zero penalty points baby zero you know much carnage
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I have I have like six races left
25:47
I'm gonna cost this team so much money
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For good
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Wasn't it was ghastly right I'm pretty sure is ghastly that he smacked
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Yeah, you know what bad to begin to came back the rest of the season you look like a sponsored athlete for the Russians that are coming after
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Yeah, right
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You do have the honoree mention here
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Yeah, really quick just before we I just really quick yeah really quick look at how many race how many races have gotten a penalty?
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Penalty race ban in f1. It's only been two three six others right in history
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I was gonna look that up because I think it's been a lot of fun
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Yeah, this is gonna be great the the last person before him was in 2020 12 20
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2012 sorry 2012 was Roman Grosjean
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Of course it of course it was a fireball himself
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In a house
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Sorry too soon
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I
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Am sorry too soon sergeant saying put me back in that seat. I want to stat
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Funny
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Among among them Michael Schumacher asked actually also got a penalty race. Okay, when was that?
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1994 I
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Wasn't even around yet. They still win that year
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Question that'd be crazy. That's gotta be a step
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Look at that we're gonna make it 94 WDC like hey if anybody ever hold on came back
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Michael Schumacher won his first of seven in 1994 so the year he gets a race man dude is racing so hard
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It's a ban
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That's just it. That's it. K mag is just trying to be Schumacher
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You know he's just like if I can get a race man
27:37
I can win this like 300 points to go yeah, he might just do it a lot of race laughs
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You know
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He's not gonna read you in points, but he's gonna reach you in the car
27:53
Oh my god speaking of another crash out Yuki poor fellow
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Darn it I just had it I can't remember who hit him, but he was hit right in the side
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I have to know it was like lap three or so was Hulkenberg so both Haas drivers doing damage on it
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Yeah, I have I have all my notes right here. I'd next year. Yeah, Haas good ride
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Yeah, yeah, so no it just cannot catch a break butter. Maybe give me a year. Yeah, yeah
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But yeah, you can't catch a break. I catch a break at least this one wasn't his fault
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No, it wasn't this far. I mean it's I mean I don't think I haven't checked the last two but last year wasn't his fault
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Either he got on track and his car just broke like before getting the starting grid. Oh, that's right
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Yep, you just had to go over art. No even start. Yeah
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He said to do not starts and to do not finishes. I did not finish awesome
28:46
Yeah, that looks like the my record looks like my f1 record my career
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after four years
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Finish p18 darn it
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Anyway, we'll go ahead and do like a quick brief
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Standings update if you guys take a look at the screen here in a second
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There's gonna be a little ticker down there that's gonna go ahead and show you the driver standings the construction
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Constructor standings can't talk today my apologies
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We only really need to talk about
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Truly the first three drivers, but we can talk about the first five if you want in the driver standing as standings update max
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Sitting at 303 Lando sitting at 241 again the missed opportunity there Charles sitting at 217
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Oscar 197 Carlos 184 Lewis another 20 behind Carlos
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Again I think that missed opportunity just it's gonna weigh too heavy by the end of the season
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He might he might close that gap but by the end of the season if we look back at Italy
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I think it's gonna end up being
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It could make or break his opportunity to be
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Fighting for the championship in the final race
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I mean it but if if you have another Hamilton max scenario and max's car gets figured out a little bit
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It's tough for Lando. I am tough either way right? Yeah, I hate to bring up past
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Topics we've covered but Lando just needs to start like truly. He just needs our driving better
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Yeah, he needs to drive like a WDC if he wants to win and that's kind of the last
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Need to be a little bit
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Papaya rules or not does he need to be a little bit more aggressive honestly like seems to be not to use
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Go this way, but he seems to be a little submissive to Oscar a little bit Oscar
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Just I think it in that corner with Oscar. They're both crashing. I think unfortunately probably did the right thing
30:38
I'm sure the team move Oscar
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Could have given him more room
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But I mean how long do you know I think that was such a good overtake by him though
30:48
How long do you think these two can be teammates not very long truly really?
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I think they could be teammates for a while
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I think they like each other off track and they both know on track no one's friend
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But it's just like every every major sport though everybody likes each other off track off field off court
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Oh, we're all buddy buddy buddy, but I mean you know you know I mean they're just gonna be in the same situation
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I don't think McLaren should not want to get rid of for either of them and as long as and as long as they're giving
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Contract for them. They're not gonna leave McLaren because McLaren is doing well, so they're gonna be teammates
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They are the car on the right teammate pass 2026 unless unless 2025 they just do so bad
31:24
That's there's a what if there's a seat open what if what if Red Bull?
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Yeah, I don't think it's big old red wings in there. I mean yeah, we've seen some positive
31:31
What's Lewis doing? He's going to a Ferrari that is not good and bad years. We have Lewis left anyway
31:37
That's gonna open up a seat automatically at some point. I don't yeah, I don't think I think 2027 there in different teams
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And you're really yeah, we should mark that down. We'll be back in three years. Yeah, I'll check the dark web
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Which was right again by the way which we'll get to really soon
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But real quick let's go into constructors the ticker still going you'll see the constructors pop up as well
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I believe are the constructors changing in there too nice
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Kev over here doing the Lord's work and co-producer Rob you'll see him on our NFL episodes
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Constructors we got Red Bull sitting at 446 McLaren 438 Ferrari 407
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Merc and Mercury again darn it Mercedes. I'm gonna start typing on Mercedes. It's gonna be bad 292 and Aston's at 74
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Does does Red Bull take third?
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No, that's such a good question. Hey good day one one you guys are doing good. No, I don't oh yeah
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We got a great question
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It's two of us two now
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That's such a good question because Ferrari yeah, we're getting it there it is
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And to that's such a good question because you're right Ferrari is so close to them
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He's they're so close. They all are I think Mercedes or number city. Sorry whoa McLaren takes first after this weekend
32:52
After can they go they could they're only 12 points off
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I'm going to think it's gonna be McLaren takes takes lead after Singapore because Singapore is notoriously bad for max
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And checko usually picks up the pieces, and he hasn't been doing that
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He's not gonna be yeah, so I think after Singapore. That's probably true. This is his own car. I just don't yeah
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Yeah, you're right. Oh, yeah, it's a great opportunity for Ferrari to yeah, it is and Lando crash last year
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I don't know. I don't know. I mean trust Ferrari even though to be that's what I'm saying that
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Consistent the rest of the season they haven't been this what have they shown up?
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I just don't know for our then just winning last week
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So I sound like a big d-bag, but I'm just saying you know I mean like I mean they have there's no consistency
33:35
They're tied third most race wins right with three they are technically
33:39
I got to two for two for Charles one for science, and then you have a three yeah, yep
33:46
I just don't know if Ferrari is
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Overall gonna be faster than the Red Bull this year unless the Red Bull just keeps on tanking that's like that is that's gonna be something
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To look forward to the last races of the year
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Yeah, they're gonna keep tipping away a little more the more I think about it
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Yeah, if checko doesn't improve and if max
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Gets like even a p3 4 5 or something a couple more times
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I mean, I'll be so happy Ferrari. I mean no we nobody we should make a highlight video of just cool and like I hate Red Bull
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Or max is just so bad or whatever, but oh man. That's it'll be just as long as a sergeant. You know
34:22
No, we don't we don't talk about sergeant
34:24
Enough no more talk about him more no means no now that he's gone. Yeah, yeah
34:29
But any anyway that was that was just a quick quick quick
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Oh my god a quick update of the driver standings and the constructor standings with that. Let's head right into our news
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And to start right off with the news
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Aspen Martin's got to be tickled pink right now
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They got their guy. They got their guy
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Right now but new eat to Aston
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Dark web called it you called that weeks ago. I called that when he first left
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You did I think you said strolls gonna throw the bag at him. Yeah, he did must have
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Did we dark web said it was between those two but Aston Martin had the upper hand
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They may catch his details for like how much they're paying this dude. I didn't see it, but doesn't really matter
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And he's starting now on this car. Nope. He's starting now on next year's car
35:33
I was just about to ask you do you think they're sticking him on next year's car
35:36
Do you think they're like well? I'm on set is for next year's car. Yeah now to help their car. Oh no no no
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He's starting 2025. I look I look this up as well
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He can't he's contractually obligated with Red Bull through the rest of this season. I yeah, I don't think he can
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He gets to start with Aston Martin and in March of 2025. That's when he starts
35:55
Yeah, I thought he could start developing their next year's car now. Nope no no
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I'm so he's with Red Bull till the end of the year at least in December
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I'll double check when I hear cool stat about him. Yeah, late on out of all of the f1 races in history
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He has been a part of
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A team with 20% of the wins so 20% of the wins in the history of the f1 he's been a part
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He's been a part of that team
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Red with Red Bull just McLaren Red Bull everybody does this does this make a difference automatically for them in 2025
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Yes, you're like like night and day are they battling Mercedes next year?
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I think out the gate out the gate. They're a lot closer
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And points I don't think so I think
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2026 is a better look. Oh 100% because he's when he okay, so I looked it up. This is from formula one.com
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Wait to say your she will a fit. Thank you. He will officially begin on March 1st 2025
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Which means that he is he is probably only going to be focused on the 2026 car in my opinion at that point like too late
36:57
We already got our plan for 2025. He can probably I think but it's tidbits
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Aston Martin's plan should just be survive really like they're gonna have a good start of the season
37:05
And then they're gonna fall off like they always do and then 2026 they might be a red no faith, you know
37:10
Why would I have faith in Aston Martin? Do you know what what year did you join? That was aggressive? Hey, I'm not a bad question
37:16
When did he join Red Bull?
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uh
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Newie yeah
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Uh, I can long time ago. I like I wonder was he there for Vettel
37:27
Yeah, I wonder how long after how long after he joined them did they start winning?
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I think it was 2006 never mind. It was not first year
37:35
Uh, and I think Red Bull won in 2006 when did Red Bull win f1 championship?
37:42
Stand by I think it was
37:45
So their constructors were in sorry, sorry
37:47
You're good. I'd rather you go you have it right in front of you
37:49
2010 through 2013 so it took four years with the team for them to start winning championships. All righty
37:56
I take back my opinion. I think it was in 2006
37:58
I don't know if they were tough year nice year, but 2026 with the new regs everybody
38:05
Kind of is on a level playing field, right? Right?
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That was a bad they're not really but but you know what I mean same rules same new rules that you have to comply by I mean
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I think 2026 at least is a better outlook for Aston
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There's no way he's not gonna help with next year's car either
38:23
He's there in the business. He's there in the business. He's there in the business
38:27
He's there in the car either he's he's there in the building like you're not gonna not go ask the guy
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Hey, what should we do about this? Yeah, I think he helps next year's car, too
38:34
I think he maybe his main focus is on 2026, but he's still helping next year. Yeah for sure
38:39
What else you trying to I'm just looking at the the article that formula one posted about it. Um
38:45
Just trying to figure out like the reasons for it and obviously they really put a lot in there
38:48
They didn't they basically just said like he joined the team because of Lawrence's commitment to getting a championship and to building a car
38:55
I think I think what's good for him. I mean he's getting the bag obviously
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I think what's good for him is that he's going into a team that has already a decent car that he can start off of
39:05
Even though 2026 is gonna be totally different and he's got really good facilities to work in as well
39:10
So he's gonna he's gonna be able to get out the ground running. I feel like 2025 is a vague turn
39:16
2025 is not it but doesn't have decent drivers. No, I mean Alonzo
39:21
Alonzo Alonzo Alonzo is great. He was a hitter. No, no, no Alonzo Alonzo. Yeah, I knew that but with stroll in that second
39:28
We got to mark that down though. He said they have two not good drivers and mark it down
39:32
But with stroll in that second seat, they'll never win. I agree with that 100%
39:36
I mean, maybe is there a gun for wdc maybe they can do it when does he have that conversation with stroll?
39:41
Does that even happen with lance? How can you I know I know it'd be tough. I'm not having a conversation like not me
39:47
I
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Think scenario they build a car that just drives itself for stroll and then wins the championship. They just cheat
39:56
Yeah, but but strong or rather in more time
40:01
In more realistic terms to just build a car that's so
40:04
Wildly better than the other cars that it doesn't matter who's driving it if you could okay
40:09
This is just ridiculous and doesn't really matter because strolls signed through win 2025 or is he signed through new regs?
40:14
I don't think forever inevitably
40:16
Yeah, whenever his contract comes up. It's always like yes, you know what? I'm not even ask the question. It's stupid
40:21
I was like if you could pick up if you could pick any driver
40:24
That's stupid though max right lewis or something. I mean
40:27
Yeah, any younger driver to go into that in the stroll seat to help build astin, you know from here on out
40:34
Science, who would that be carlos? Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. He's younger. Yes, bro. We we determine that yeah, he's 26
40:40
He's lying. Yes, so I'm gonna look it up right now. He's 28. Mm-hmm
40:46
I got you might be right. He might be right on 28 standby
40:49
But we looked this up before because he just looks so much older than he actually is so young. He's young enough
40:55
I really I can't
40:57
Right when I looked it up, I lost internet so I'm gonna blame that on me too, but I
41:02
I would tell that's a good pick. I think signs is a good pick. You want to build a team around signs around him and lanzo
41:10
We're all wrong. He's 30 years old. Okay, so then he's in his he's in his prime racing years then
41:16
You know, I mean technically max is 26. I think honestly
41:21
26 this isn't gonna happen because mcclaren's got him locked down for years, but oscar piastri would be a great driver to start building
41:27
Mmm, he's got incredible potential. I'm expecting to go to mercedes. I'm sorry. I'm expecting red bull to steal him
41:35
That's right. I already said that never mind. Never mind
41:38
It's a cool move. I heard us
41:40
Newy come out though and say that he was looking for like a new challenge like he wanted a
41:45
New challenge here it is buddy. Yeah, you got it. You got it
41:48
This will be a challenge is it if he if he gets asked and even top three in wdc within like two three years
41:54
That's a win. That's all him. Yeah, it's all him with the same drivers. That would be all him for sure
41:59
Yeah, oh if he does that with stroll with with lance in the c. Yeah, give back at the wdc
42:04
She doesn't know if he does that with stroll
42:10
So we put new in the seat
42:12
We just mentioned mercedes sticking with them for a quick sec. Antonelli to mercedes is confirmed. Yep
42:18
Uh, I don't know that was coming, right? You know, we did know it was coming
42:21
We've been talking about it for weeks, but now it is for sure confirmed
42:25
uh total wolf had some
42:27
interesting comments about antonelli, uh
42:30
You know first he spoke about hamilton and said it was it was for the good quote for the good of hamilton to leave mercedes
42:38
Is that some foretelling that hey mercedes is building now. They're not going to be that amazing next year
42:43
We're still building up. You know what I mean? The other thing that I that that threw me off though. Toto said was
42:49
Um that antonelli's mistakes will be more visible than russell's were when russell first came up. That makes sense. I I agree
42:57
Especially when the kid wins a race this summer and then has the comments he did after the race
43:01
Like I don't know if I can't remember what it was. I don't know if i'm ready type type of deal
43:05
um
43:07
First off. Do you all do you agree with total was it for the good of hamilton that he leaves mercedes in their current state?
43:13
For his career for his career. Yes. Yeah long-term career for his
43:16
For a better shot at giving him what he wants than mercedes does it's not like the next two three years
43:21
It's not like he was a mercedes driver through and through right?
43:24
I mean like no one is he won his first with mclaren like I think this is a good move for him looking forward
43:28
Yeah, for sure, but for mercedes no no for hamilton for hamilton probably yeah, yeah
43:34
You let him do what he wants. Why not for mercedes though? Why would it not be a good idea?
43:37
Why do you have a great driver? Why not to move on from the older vet that's still?
43:41
Performing at a high level to to go into a it's too soon to be bringing in antoneli antoneli is not ready
43:48
I mean I agree with really no I would put him in a williams for I think I think he's going to be fast and
43:53
This is was mentioned
43:54
I think also by toto in terms of just like antoneli's mistakes when he needs to work on his uh
43:58
He said his pace is really good, but it's too good right now. He needs to like learn to technically drive
44:04
I mean you saw him in monza. He crashed problem
44:07
uh no, I don't think so oscar's like just
44:10
He just needs to I think his pace is too slow at the moment. Oh sure yeah
44:14
Antonelli I think he just needs to drive a little more safe. I think is what I got from that
44:19
Yeah, because you look at that monza
44:21
It was it was his second or third fast lap and he crashed like like it was on the wet though. It was 53. No no
44:29
Hmm
44:30
No, I don't think so. Maybe it was a video like barman. I saw or something. It was like it was a green track
44:34
So it was like there's no rubber down at all
44:36
Yeah, but the parabolical where everyone was going off of he he went off as well and was on was unable to keep it out of the wall
44:43
Um, which was fine. No one blamed him for it. It was his first time driving that specific car, you know on a weekend
44:50
But yeah, he's definitely I don't think he's ready
44:52
I think he could have used another year or two
44:54
And I think murk probably would have wanted to keep hamilton for at least another year or two while they get antonelli ready
45:00
Oh was lewis leaving like we touched on earlier in the season today
45:02
Did they go antonelli right away so they don't lose them like we either get them now or somebody's gonna come steal them like the
45:09
Oscar piazzar situation, maybe the
45:12
The interesting thing though, I think with that dynamic though with russell and antonelli is
45:18
Like lewis
45:19
Or max even like a lot of these drivers are good drivers to have in that spot
45:25
If you're gonna bring in somebody like antonelli like having lewis still there and then bringing in antonelli great is a good move
45:29
Yeah, I agree. Right. Oh, yeah
45:31
I don't think russell is like the leader guy like the leader on the team really like I don't think he's a leader to really
45:36
You want to put in I think he's still in the phase right now a lot of experience at this point
45:39
Yes, but he's in the phase right now where he only cares about his winning. He wants to win a wdc, right?
45:43
That's his main focus and I don't think he's going to be helping out a new guy a lot
45:47
I think that causes if anything more turmoil in the team, which I don't know if it's great
45:52
I don't think russell's a guy you want to bring a new guy into do you think that becomes if antonelli comes in and does great?
45:57
Like not amazing, but those decent enough right away at the beginning of next season
46:01
Do we run into what we're starting to run into with lando and oscar right now?
46:05
Maybe maybe I think like like that type of tension
46:09
But I also think like both both ways of this
46:11
Yes, I think there is more tension because the way the bulls drivers are going to view this fighting for their spots almost
46:17
But also when you bring russell in with hamilton
46:22
I think russell has a better shot of doing good his first couple years
46:25
Of doing good his first couple years with hamilton and it's gonna hurt kimmy antonelli
46:31
That that his guy even if he's not ready if he even if he's not ready if that's hamilton in that seat
46:36
He's a hell of a lot more ready than he would have been interesting. I agree interesting. Yeah
46:40
So I think it's just russell's not he's not at that tutor or that you know
46:45
You got winning wdc to have that on your chip, right?
46:47
Like I think I think max max would be a better situation for to bring like red bull
46:51
They can use getting rid of check on putting in a young driver because you have max granted
46:56
He's not the best guy to race with right?
46:58
You know the best guy to race with but at least then you have something like
47:01
You're gunning for like a lot of people that have race with them like alban speaks highly of max
47:06
hmm
47:07
Yeah, so he does share his knowledge with his fellow drivers
47:10
Maybe but also like just like the way and like I think it's kind of what you're saying though
47:15
So the way the way I view it it's like when somebody
47:17
This is a crazy example like when somebody goes and does a four-minute mile
47:21
All of a sudden within the next couple years within the next couple years a ton of people do it. Why actually know it's possible
47:26
right not to get like
47:28
Stoic right now and you go
47:31
Get on your butt at that same time like when you have somebody like max and you go in and you see him racing on 10 sensitivity
47:37
And you see him doing all these things. He's at the same level as you but he's treating it at a different level
47:43
It changes your mindset and how you're going to approach it. It's just going to help you for sure
47:46
And you're saying russell does not have that mindset. He doesn't have that. He doesn't have that gear. He doesn't have that other level yet
47:53
He will one day. I think he's gonna be great in the history of f1. I think he's gonna be a great driver
47:57
He'll get a wgc all that but he doesn't have that to where it's gonna stunt antoneli sure sure interesting
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Interesting I got nothing to add to that. I'm good leaving it right there that russell is gonna stunt antoneli
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boom
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dark web
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Actually, I like coles web
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I like the move there. I like the move. I like getting antoneli in there. You gotta do it
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I like the key guys they had to do it
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I love that. I love this year this year and all the all the grid seats
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I love this all the new guys we're gonna have we're gonna get none of that next year
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But we'll have plenty to talk about with all the new guys getting there. There's gonna be like no movement
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Probably no movement next year
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Moving on we talked about k-meg already being banned from azure by john
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You know and we've we've already talked about him coming back and that he's gonna produce a lot more garbage for the rest of the season
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But beerman taking that seat
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It'll be a good test. It'll be good test to to see him in it haas again and just see if we can
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Oh, no, I'm not a guy who's in a friar. Yeah. Yeah
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I'm just curious if we can I mean yes k-meg got points. Yes. He crashed his way there this week
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It'd be interesting to see if beerman can sneak out a point or something. It'd be awesome. Yeah, I
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At least qualify well, right at least have a good quality in it
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Uh tough track for it though very I was gonna say very tough track for it
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I don't know if he's gonna see got a point unfortunately
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But I am looking forward to seeing him get on track. There's more experience again
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Last time he raised f1. It was also a very narrow track with uh in
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What was it?
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In what was it? So it was another tight track. I think boku is a bit more technical but
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Still both street tracks. So he he should hopefully fare. Okay, but it's gonna be difficult and he's in a haas instead of a ferrari
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That's what you should look out for. I'm saying he's probably beerman. He's probably
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17th, you know, you don't be uh, whoa, really 17th really that low. I think so. I don't think it's his fault
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I mean, I mean he's a rookie he's buried. I think he's 13 14
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I'd love to see him sneak into a point for 10, but I think he's 13 14
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I definitely don't think he's gonna be last. He's like down in like the bottom four
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But you know, he's somewhere around 12 to 14. I agree. Yeah. Yeah
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With that that's all for news for the first time like ever this season. Usually we're talking about seats
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There's no more seats really to talk about at this point. We're saying there's one. Yeah, there's one
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Which we are thinking is gonna be one of the vets
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It's gotta be right. I mean it's gonna be somebody who's it's either gonna be it should either be it should be
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Botos or it should be Joe. Yeah, so it'll probably be Joe
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Probably I'm thinking as much as I don't feel weird in there
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But it's like if they're looking for funding it's gonna be Joe, but they should keep botos. Yeah, that's that's a tough call
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It is a tough call. But with that let's head right into our Azerbaijan preview
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And right back at it
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We're just gonna send it right over to Joe like we always do to start our Azerbaijan preview. Yeah, let's get into it
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Formula one Qatar Airways
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Azerbaijan Grand Prix 2024 another long one another love the Baku track incredibly technical
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It's I'm always either
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Crashing or like getting first that track when I'm playing it online. Oh you get first sometimes
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I don't I mean I you know, I have a couple assists. Okay
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Um some fun facts most pole positions here is held by Charles Euclare, but he's never won
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In terms of winners Sergio Perez is the only driver to have won here more than once with the others being
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Rosberg Danny Rick Lewis Botos and Max
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Last year our starting grid was Charles Max to Perez
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We saw a very clean start to the race with the only contact being Albon getting his front wing a little too close to the back
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Tire of Piastri breaking off the sidewall of the front wing
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There was no immediate boxing to fix the wing
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Versapin took the lead from Leclerc on the long straight starting straight at the end of lap three from Leclerc
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With Perez just below in second a couple laps a couple laps later
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He makes a move for first place Charles unable to fight the ultimate pace of the Red Bulls
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Being earlier in the year we saw Nick DeVries clip the apex at wall of turn six breaking his wheel and facing a wall that he could not spin around at
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After a couple of really important pits namely from Verstappen
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The safety car came out meaning anyone who has not pitted yet got the ultimate advantage from a cheap pit stop
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This is where we see the swap of Verstappen and Perez take place
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At the safety car restart it's Perez Leclerc and then Verstappen
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Both Mclarens below scoring points at this time caught up by the safety car
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And the gaggle of Mercedes, Alpines, Astons and Haas ahead of them
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A gaggle yes, and that is the actually correct term for a lot of cars in front of you is a gaggle
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uh no
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I was like I thought it was geese man
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And he immediately after the restart at the straight
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Turn three Max overtakes Charles for second place right at the restart
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He did that right away right behind Alonso makes a huge lunge for fourth ahead of signs next few tight corners
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He made the move stick
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Meanwhile the Aston of stroll hits the exact same wall that DeVries hit earlier
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But he's a lot luckier and comes out of it mostly unscathed
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And then the latter half of the race is incredibly uneventful a couple of close calls to the wall for both red bulls who make it out alive
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Norris the only Mclaren to make it back into points Alonso keeps fourth
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So noto takes a final point position and Joe unfortunately retires alongside DeVries later in the race
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So our final was Perez for Stappen Leclerc
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The gap to second was almost 19 seconds and the gap to first between Perez and Verstappen was only two seconds
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Perez becomes the first repeat winner at Baku and he's named the king of the streets by his engineer
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And that is last year's reading. Did you say Leclerc has the most poles? He has the most pole uh
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I think he has the most pole. Yeah, most pole positions here is held by Charles Leclerc
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He had like two and then he got another one last year, but he's never won. Oh
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That throws a gaggle into my uh, was it gaggle? Yeah, it was gaggle. You can't use it in that way
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There was a gaggle. Yeah, there's a lot of things going on in front of me right now. I'm trying to figure it out now
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You gotta you gotta remember though, I think his his
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Last year's qualifying pace was a lot better than his race pace. I think overall for the year
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This is also early Ferrari. So they were still decent
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Oh, that's toughy. Uh, all right. How about I so let me update the points. Let me update the points. Let's do it
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Uh Tyler, we can actually skip this. I don't need to hear it. Oh
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Well, we're gonna talk about it anyway, okay, so uh
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Tyler who was uh with us earlier this season. He is sitting at 34 points right now still giving us a
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His picks Cole in second place at the moment one behind at 33
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uh followed by me two behind that at 31 and Joe is uh
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Joe's having a tough season. He Joe's sitting at 24 points right now
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Oh
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So Joe needs needs your support and love if I win put his venmo link
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Yeah, if I win every single weekend here going forward, I think I win the whole thing
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I think I win the whole thing. Okay, same position as landon
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You're better off ruined for sergeant
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All right, well i'll help you out here, uh, we'll give you tyler's picks first
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He went in no particular order as we just picked the podium lando oscar charles
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Oh our bonus point. I didn't mention our bonus point. So how do I say his name again?
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Colapinto colapinto our bonus points are between colapinto and beerman who finishes better?
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You know what I mean? So tyler's going colapinto
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better car
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Uh beerman not in a ferrari this time where his reasonings
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All great reasonings which makes me think a little bit, but you guys can go first
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Joe, do you want do you want to go first here take no no
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It's not law actually by law it's illegal if you don't go to rule
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Really on the field on the track hearing that makes me want to change everything up
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So i'm going to change up my podium that I was originally thinking simulando
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Yeah
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max
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Yep, and charles
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And i'm also going colapinto. I almost went charles as well, but I will not be going charles colapinto. Okay
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Let's have a see do you want me to go first before you joe? Yes, please. Okay. That's right by law by rule
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I'm going max landau oscar. I think oscar's too quick right now
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For the ferraris, I think it's too technical from this race
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It could be this is going to be a great race to see what oscar's actually made of and if he can keep that pace
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While being technical as well
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Um, who i'm gonna get crazy with i'm gonna go beerman just crazy he had one or two
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Hey, hey, man. I got a 50 chance of being right, buddy
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um joe
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What's popping?
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um
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You gotta you gotta throw a wrench in there, man. I don't know. I think I think honestly I can't remember
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Lonzo stroll, what was uh, you might as well throw a checkle up there. Honestly, honestly, what was uh, what was tyler's again?
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Tyler went landau oscar charles. Oh, unfortunately, I think it's gonna be the exact same thing landau oscar charles
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These next two races max is not going to be in my podium, especially not for singapore, but for baku
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It's going to be landau oscar
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Lucious, I could do no mclaren don't listen. I don't listen anymore. I don't want to listen to you guys anymore
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You said landau oscar landau oscar
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I just have a bad feeling about oscar
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Let's do
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Lando oscar and yeah, I guess i'm gonna do the same thing as power land oscar charles
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Uh, and I just want to max crazy. Um, man this track max could probably get get up there
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I just he just seeing his performance last weekend and I haven't heard of any upgrades coming. I just don't know if it's gonna help
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They did the weird like they have you guys see the wing last last weekend red bulls ring. Yeah
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Yeah, it was like it was like kind of yeah
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I'll get that so I don't I don't know didn't work
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Okay, I almost I almost do want to put jackal up there, but i'm not going to
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I mean this is ready if you keep if you keep up, right?
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Think of it like this if you if you keep up with tyler you'll never win. I'm never gonna win
58:36
You're right. Hey, but he could get third or second. All right
58:40
This is this sucks
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Let's hope the curse continues take off charles put in signs
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Uh, so it's landau oscar signs arlo. I'm gonna get screwed again. I'm gonna get screwed again. That's interesting
58:51
That's fine. Yeah, I think that's fine allow it. Thank you allow it. Thank you, please
58:56
Okay, thank you. I think they make it interesting next week. We might have to give him top five
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Give him some more points. Oh more options. I I would take a handicap easily and then for the two points
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Yeah, it's got to be colapinto. I I think he definitely has less experience than bareman, but i'll see you guys next
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My two points. Well, yeah, we'll see about that. I think the williams is just a better car right now no matter what
59:19
Um, it's possible. They both don't finish the race. That's why i'm banging on i'm banging on colapinto hitting the wall or something
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Yeah, but it could happen and then bareman finishing at
59:28
Damn, dang. He might finish at 17th. Honestly, right? So so let's verify this if they both dnf this race
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No points. No, no points any bonus. It's not who dnf can I make a can I make a dnf first?
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Can I make a plea if if if bareman gets 17th exactly can I get another point?
59:46
No, this isn't charity sounds more like
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We have an amendment to our rules. We have five thousand dollars in this. It's not charity. It is we do
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Oh, no, i'm gonna lose so much money
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What if I offered that one of my points gets taken away if he isn't?
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How about you just give me one of your points to make it an even race between me and tyler?
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Why do you get any points on this? No, I don't like that. No, no, i'm not playing that. Okay, that's fine rules. That's not fair
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Participation awards. No, i'm just saying he's good in 17. Hey, he's just trying to hustle man
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Yeah, it's i'm gonna climb up. I'm in shambles right now in shambles holding yourself together pretty
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Maybe uh, yeah on the outside internally
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She's gone. Yeah, maybe depending on how the the points end up going towards end of the year
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Maybe we do one of the races where it's like a lot of points are on the line
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I'm cool with that
1:00:33
I hate that but I also need it. So top eight. I'm doing crazy. So i'm crazy
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Because you mess up one. Well
1:00:40
mess up the rest of them
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You could still get seven if you mess up maybe uh, man
1:00:46
You can shift everything down for you. If bareman pulls something out and i'm gonna be so angry, dude
1:00:51
I won't be I know you won't be
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Take a shot with me. You won't you're right. I'm not going to switch that doesn't even exist. I get one. That's it
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One per year. All right. Well with that, uh that concludes fast laps italy recap azerbaijan
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