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Sophie Powers on American Idol, Lionel Richie Beef, and Leaving Her Label | Delulu with Ryan Lu #205 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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  The most successful people are the ones who are just crazy.
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  Yeah, do Lulu as hell. Yes, for sure are just crazy.
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  Let me ask my publicist real quick, have I said anything
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  cancelable or are we chilling? No, you've said things that are
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  really authentic and interesting.
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  Yes, authentic and interesting things only.
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  Hello Power Lulu's and welcome back to Delulu with Ryan Liu.
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  Today we are joined by the elusive multifaceted artist,
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  fashion designer, writer, actress.
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  Why don't you do you do everything?
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  Why are you so shocked? Damn, I wasn't expecting that
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  intro. Really.
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  I mean, that's like kind of the. Rest to hold up to.
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  Really. Yeah, I mean.
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  You do it all. Talk about your resume.
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  We are delulu with Ryan Luke, the podcaster, the entertainer,
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  The speaker, the legend, The zed.
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  Fuck lover girl. Lover Girl.
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  Thank you, thank you. Love that.
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  That's my resume as well. And you're the only person who
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  can actually be rejected from an audition at American Idol and
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  probably come out with better PR and press from it than the
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  winner. Do you agree?
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  I would say. Name Name a recent American Idol
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  winner. Wow, this is bad.
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  It's OK, but that's the point. It's OK.
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  You got better press from going in American Island.
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  I definitely want to talk about that too.
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  But welcome Sophie Powers. Your name is like, so superhero.
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  Should I change my name? No, I love your name.
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  Really. Ryan Liu.
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  Yes. What do you like about it?
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  I I love how it ties into your branding, Delulu.
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  I know, isn't that super lucky? With Ryan Liu, yes, I used.
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  To hate my name so much growing up because I was like.
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  Me too because my mom's last name is actually Powers and my
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  mom and my grandma are like my superheroes so that's why I use
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  Powers. It's like they are like the
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  people I look up to most. I I look up to my dad a lot too,
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  but his last name was just a lot longer and it wasn't as cool.
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  No, Sophie Powers is like appropriate and fit and like
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  perfect. I love it.
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  Thank you. Wait, yeah, it's so good.
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  Wait. TTTT OK, so I met Sophie at
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  previous Delulu alum guest Grant Kanoki's birthday party a month
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  ago today, the 23rd. We're shooting this on September
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  23rd. Isn't that crazy?
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  That is really odd. And you just got back from Korea
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  like I think that day. Yes, I was.
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  Actually it was the day before, but because the time changed it
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  was same day for me. Oh my God, you're like mad jet
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  lagged. I was so jet lagged, but I
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  actually was told about your podcast already because of
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  Bonnie McKee. No way did she tell you.
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  Yeah, she well, I see her post. So I had seen your podcast
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  before. Wait, TI didn't know that?
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  Yes, so when when you mentioned that it like did ring a bell and
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  then that's why I also like I'm super excited about today.
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  So thanks for having me on. Well, Oh my God, thank you so
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  much for being here. Like I'm so excited to talk to
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  you. I was doing so much research
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  into you. And the more research I did, I
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  was like, wait, I have so much I want to get into with you.
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  Just with your artistry, your music, everything about you.
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  You're so interesting. OK.
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  You're super fun and Victoria spoken so highly of you for like
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  the past month. Thank you, Vic.
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  So. That got you.
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  So I'm super excited that you're here, but that was you barely
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  stayed at that birthday party and there for.
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  Like an hour I was there. I actually do that like at every
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  party I go to. I you will not catch me
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  somewhere for like more than an hour now.
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  Really. Why?
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  I love partying but like if I'm going to go out I'm going to
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  like 4 things in one night. Oh shit.
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  I can't go somewhere and stay there for like 4 hours.
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  I'm. 280D. No, because also it's like if
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  I'm getting ready and I'm putting on a bomb outfit, I want
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  more than one party to see me. So like, I got to like show up
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  and show out at all the different spots, you know?
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  OK, totally. I'm going to start doing that.
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  Yeah, because I'm committed. Like if I go somewhere, I'm
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  like, I intend to stay there in the entire night, but I'm also
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  intending to like, I'm not trying to go anywhere.
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  You know what? I.
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  Mean, yeah, well, I also just don't drink.
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  Oh yeah, or. Like.
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  Totally. Smoke or vape I don't care if
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  you do at all like all my friends do have the time when
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  I'm out I'm like like I'm never the mom of the group.
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  I will not be driving you home. Sorry I'm probably drive just as
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  bad as a drunk driver but I will be the one who is like still
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  having fun and dancing regardless of wait.
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  I love that I'm not like other girls.
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  I mean, you're not like other artists, you literally.
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  That sounded so pick me. No, that's so funny.
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  You literally told someone right here you're like, I'm not like
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  other artists. Like I'm not difficult.
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  No, I was saying that as a joke, though.
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  I'm like, I'm not extremely difficult, but I am difficult.
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  And my father says like, no, she's not.
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  She's not. I'm like, Tristan, it's OK.
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  I mean, that's why she's getting paid, right?
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  OK. My team, Am I difficult?
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  Those are enthusiastic. Can we, can we like what else,
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  Brett? What's good about me?
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  So easy to work with. Yes, so easy to work with.
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  Like yes, not intense. What's your son?
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  Oh, do you want to guess? I feel like you're a Capricorn.
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  No, but I love that. I love Capricorn.
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  What are you? I'm a Virgo, so you're kind of
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  close. Earth signs.
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  OK, you're just like extra as fuck.
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  I'm just like, I like my thing is like, I definitely am aware
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  of this. I take myself way too seriously
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  and I think it translates in everything I do, you know?
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  I think it's good to take yourself both extremely,
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  extremely seriously. Yeah, and also not serious at
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  all. Like it's a balance.
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  Yeah, 'cause I like being like silly, silly.
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  But the same time it's just like when it comes to like my
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  projects and my work, I'm like so serious.
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  I'm like super locked in about it.
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  That's good. I can tell it.
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  It shows. Really.
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  Thank you for like taking the time to, yeah, to research and
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  have like a run of show and questions in advance.
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  I don't know, maybe I don't know been a podcast enough, but it's
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  really professional and well. Done Delulu is not like other
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  podcasts. It's not like other podcasts,
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  clearly. OK, so we're on the right show.
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  Yes, we are on the right show. Well, I want to get into
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  everything Sophie Powers, but we need to start with who is Sophie
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  Powers? Like you do so many things, you
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  wear so many hats, you have so many talents.
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  Like how would you define yourself?
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  And you're such a visual artist. You have such a defined presence
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  image like who's Sophie Powers to you.
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  Honestly, I think Sophie Powers is everything is like really me
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  at my core. Like I want to be Sophie Powers
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  is me more. Oh, you want to be Sophie?
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  Powers. Hell yeah.
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  You're so cool. You're so nonchalant.
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  I I, I think Sophie Powers is like some just some girl who
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  happens to be existing and like wants to encourage people to
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  express themselves. I feel like that's exactly what
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  you do, and you do it so seamlessly.
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  It's so natural to you too. Oh, thank you.
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  I mean, that's kind of always a goal.
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  I spent so many years repressing myself and who I truly am.
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  So that's why at this point I'm just like, I have nothing left
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  to lose bro. Wait, why do you feel like
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  you're repressing yourself? Well, I had a really, really
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  hard time growing up. I'm not going to like trauma
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  dump but I went. You're welcome to.
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  I went to like 6 different schools from like, and then I
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  dropped out of high school. Yeah.
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  Because like bullying and also just like how like you know, you
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  want to fit in. Obviously everyone does school.
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  So like dressing like other people or like not in the way
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  that you want to present yourself or like repressing your
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  sexuality or other just means of you at your core.
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  So for me, that's why I value art so much, because like, I
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  truly would not like be here without art and music and
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  fashion and like being able to like be myself.
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  I feel like you use every medium at your disposal to express
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  yourself, which I think is super cool because you have such a
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  defined style and your music is so defined too.
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  Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I'm always, I'm
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  trying to be like a tastemaker and.
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  Oh my God, that's the word. I wish I put that in the intro
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  for you. Well.
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  Thank you. I'm always trying to be that and
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  honestly I used to get so offended if people would copy
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  me, but now that's like the biggest compliment.
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  How do you feel about that? I hate when people copy me.
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  Yeah, I I actually hate it so much in my core because I feel
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  like to me it's like I feel original AF and I feel like I
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  just feel like everything I do is like it comes from what I
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  think is my mind and maybe it's not and maybe I like got
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  inspired somewhere or whatever. I mean I have no problem like
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  citing inspirations either, but I just feel like when I'm
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  creating, I feel like this is what I think is authentic to me
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  or whatever. I hate when people copy me and I
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  hate when they're blatantly copying me too.
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  I think I used to be that way and then I realized that it's
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  actually a form of honor in your art, in your creativity and your
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  authenticity. And I've had like major artists,
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  like absolutely, like artists way bigger than me, like copy,
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  like my concepts, my outfits, the styling, the set design,
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  whatever it may be. And you just have to sit back
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  and be like, wow, someone like of that stature, caliber, it's
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  like cares what I'm doing. Wait that's such a good
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  perspective. Oh my God I would be so fucking.
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  Pissed. Well, I mean, yeah, but.
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  What can you do about it, right? You can't do anything.
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  It's a waste of energy. No, because honestly, it's still
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  like they're still not me. They're still not so be powers
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  that's. What, they're never going to be
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  able to do what you're doing next either, Yeah.
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  It's coming from you. Absolutely.
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  What's next for Ryan Liu? Okay, Delulu with Sophie Powers.
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  What's next for Ryan Liu? We're working on this show, I
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  guess. What other projects do I have
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  coming up? What am I working on?
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  Everyone, do we know? OK, I'm launching, I guess we're
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  going deeper into my merch. Like I think that the Lulu
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  brand, I want it to be a world versus just like merch for the
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  show. Like I want it to be a world.
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  Like I'm showing the pictures we shot.
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  I want to create something bigger than that.
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  And I know you're super into fashion too.
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  We'll do Sophie powers X to Lulu.
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  We'll see. I'll talk to Tristan.
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  For the world, you should do something just like literally
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  looking at you right now. These are like 2 concepts that
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  I'm getting from the Delulu show.
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  And by the way, this is not me like intruding, just fireballing
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  please. I guess synesthesia and right
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  now I'm seeing a lot of like gold.
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  I think you should experiment with a coquette gold theme
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  because I haven't seen anything that's coquette and soft core
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  but also including like sparkles.
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  Wait, I love that. So I think you could play around
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  with frills and more like elusive textures that feel like
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  good on the skin on the inside, but then look like almost
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  transparent on the outside. I think you should also explore
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  actual like teddy bears and like like literal build-a-bear dolls
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  like with T-shirts that are like funny.
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  I like yeah, wait, wow, you literally have it.
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  Like why aren't you? I think you should.
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  Sell. I think you should also sell
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  charms with like keys like gold. Keys.
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  Like and then someone, I don't know, maybe when people get one
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  they get a key to an unreleased episode like with the purchase.
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  Fuck, I love that. And you know, that's what I love
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  about you too. In general, it's just like the
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  world building you do 'cause I think I want to take it so much
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  deeper than just like, it's just a podcast.
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  There's just a project I'm working on.
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  It's like I want to immerse people into my world and even
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  talking to you right now, this is like my world and I want I'm
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  happy you're here. By the way, thank you for being
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  a part of the Lulu. Oh, I mean, that's just a random
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  idea I had. For you.
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  No, I love that. I love world.
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  Building, we have so many shoots coming up too.
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  You're always welcome to stop by enjoying and like if you want
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  to, whatever you want. To do I would love to also just
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  see the behind the scenes because yeah, come through.
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  I've also been like releasing merchant.
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  I'm, I'm so hesitant to do that because if I can't, like I have
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  a hard time with the fact of not being able to do my cut and sew
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  design. So like I design and selling
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  that because I can't sell that. It'll cost like $2000.
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  I'm not going to charge people that.
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  It's just unrealistic. So I'm doing merch for now
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  slowly also to help me like offset costs and like to world
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  build, you know like. You said so.
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  Besties, please buy the Dululu merch, please.
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  It really makes a giant difference for creating what we
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  can give you. No, I love that.
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  I'm actually going to go with that.
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  Victoria, would you wear cock at Little Frillies?
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  We're doing it. I don't know, I just feel like
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  everyone will eat it up. But I'm sorry, I know you have a
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  list of notes and I'm getting super sidetracked.
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  Oh my God no. I honestly I much prefer just to
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  chitchat. So like, honestly love all of
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  it. Yes.
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  OK, don't feel like this is strict at all.
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  No, I just I was really impressed even just looking on
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  Trish's phone then and like even the call sheets and back and
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  forth. I'm again, sorry, I I feel bad.
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  I've like cancelled on the dude but.
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  No, it's like. I'm not like a horrible guest
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  where I'm like, don't show up and.
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  Don't, no. I'm genuinely so happy you're
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  here. Like my entire team and I have
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  been talking about it like all month.
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  We're really excited. They genuinely, I was talking
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  about a Victoria yesterday. Like we're so excited.
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  Thank you and we love your music and we're going to get into all
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  of it. But like genuinely from the
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  bottom of my heart, like I'm so happy that you're here.
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  Like it's just cool to also get to know each other and chitchat
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  because I. Know I feel like I'm not even on
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  a podcast right now, even though the power puffs and what's your
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  fan? The the the delulus, the
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  delulus, the delulus or the lulus, delulus, the delulus, the
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  power puffs and the delulus are watching.
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  So what's up? Thank you guys so much for
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  watching. Sorry, I've been in.
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  I've been spending too much time in South Korea this year.
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  I keep like. Is that what I mean?
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  These. Poses So guys, we watching the
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  video version of the show. I just did a little little hand
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  thing on my face. Is that like a Korean thing?
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  Oh well, it's just something that like I've seen a lot of K
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  pop idols do. I'm not sure if it's actually.
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  Exclusively I would trust you because you've been writing for
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  a lot of K pop groups too. I actually just had a song that
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  I wrote for N Mix announced today on their first album,
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  which is crazy. Wait, it was announced today?
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  Yeah. Oh my God, I didn't peep that.
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  What was it? It's a song actually.
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  I wrote it for myself and OT they ended up wanting it.
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  It's called reality hearse. Oh my God, T.
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  Kind of how it goes. I just like write songs for
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  myself and my song gotcha that I wrote for I've.
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  They just love that for their team.
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  So it was like, OK, you know what?
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  Like I love I've, why not? Wait, how do you part with songs
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  that you write for yourself? Like you intend for it to be for
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  your project, but then you end up giving it to other artists?
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  Like is that something you're comfortable with 'cause like?
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  It's hard, but also like, I have to be realistic with how many
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  songs I think I have over 100 demos.
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  I'm not even being sarcastic. Yeah, there's so many because
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  I've been making music since I was 15 full time.
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  I'm 21 now. Like you're not going to release
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  all those songs. And that's why I'm like very
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  hesitant even in saying yes to sessions these days because I, I
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  hate wasting people's time. I really do.
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  And also I'm super busy with just releasing the music right
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  now. Totally promoting it to a little
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  while, doing the visuals for it. It's a full time thing.
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  Yeah, and also just writing more music.
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  It's like all the things. Oh my God, absolutely.
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  And I feel like you've put out a lot of music already over the
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  past few years too. Yes, I have put out a lot of
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  music over the last years, but also not because I like in
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  between. Labels have like a seven month,
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  8 month gap and that's like the longest time I think I've gone
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  without releasing music. I mean, you're going through a
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  lot of transition at that time too.
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  Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.
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  Which inspired move with me, which we'll we'll talk about
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  too. Yeah, let's chat about it all.
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  Yeah, I'm going to talk about all of it.
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  I want to talk about all of it. So you're originally from Canada
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  and you come out to LA at 16 completely alone, and you just
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  drop out of high school. You're saying I'm going to go do
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  it. Like what gave you the audacity
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  to think that you can come out here and do it?
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  The delulu, the. Best thing honestly yes is the
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  delusion of the more delusional you are I honestly believe the
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  more successful you'll be because if you don't believe in
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  yourself to the point where people think you're insane, it's
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  just it's you could still be very well be successful, but
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  from what I've seen the most successful people are the ones
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  who are just crazy. Yeah, delulu as hell.
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  Yes, are just crazy, like obsessed with what they're
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  doing. And I think that obsession is
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  what drove me. Like my obsession with music and
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  with art. I'm like, I am just so obsessed
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  with this thing. I'd been working in
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  entertainment since I was 10. Like I did some musical theatre,
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  I did acting. I had an agent when I was super
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  young and I had been making like money off of it.
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  My parents knew I took it very seriously.
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  I've been singing in outside of school choirs, school plays,
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  theaters, like literally whatever I could and when I was
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  15 I literally said to my parents like 2 weeks before
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  starting school I was like I'm just not going back shit I'm
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  just like I'll do online guys I I can't how?
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  They react. Honestly, my mom's like a
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  hippie. She was a dead head.
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  So she was like, OK, so she was your thing, girl.
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  Yeah. Damn.
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  That girl tries to get me to, like, smoke with her.
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  But I, I love my mom like we're. I'm just kidding.
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  Hi, Mrs. Powers. Yes, Mrs. Mrs. Powers, my moms
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  named Karen, but she's not a Karen.
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  Hi. Karen, that's so crazy.
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  Did she take offense to STFU? No, no, no, no.
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  Shut the fuck up. I know.
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  Direct quote Lyric. Literally, I'm sorry mom about
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  that, but yeah, she I'm so thankful for her support and my
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  dad support. He also was a musician, but he
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  never got to do it like professionally.
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  He wanted to his whole life but couldn't because of finances.
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  He like didn't come from money, had nothing and like basically
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  just wanted I guess a different life.
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  So took the business accounting route and not that he's unhappy,
• 18:17
  but I. Mean it's a different life.
• 18:18
  Yeah, when I told him, like looked at I just, I want to do
• 18:21
  this full time, he was like, OK, like, like, you know, like I, I
• 18:28
  want you to be able to do what I couldn't essentially.
• 18:30
  I kind of love that. Which was like really full
• 18:34
  circle. And that's why I feel like I'm
• 18:35
  like proving to him. And my mom makes you emotional.
• 18:37
  Talk about oh. My God.
• 18:38
  Well, guess you absolutely are. And they're definitely so proud
• 18:40
  of you. I mean, look where you are now
• 18:41
  and like everything you've done. You're only 21.
• 18:44
  That's crazy. I feel like a grandma trapped
• 18:47
  inside a young girl's body. Kind of.
• 18:51
  I'm not that young though. You're not that young.
• 18:53
  You give me such young energy. Really.
• 18:54
  Why? I mean, I just feel like not
• 18:58
  this life coming out out of you. You're the best guest I've had.
• 19:03
  You're. Just a number.
• 19:05
  Seriously. My grandmother is my best
• 19:07
  friend. That woman is 86.
• 19:09
  She has like the mentality of maybe a 40 year old and also
• 19:16
  adults are just grown up kids. Yeah, I definitely, I literally
• 19:19
  feel like a child still. Like that's what I was thinking
• 19:21
  to you because I was like, I have no idea what the fuck I'm
• 19:22
  doing and I'm literally just winging and I'm like, oh hey.
• 19:25
  But you're doing amazing. Well, thank you.
• 19:27
  You're doing amazing. And anyone listening to this, by
• 19:30
  the way, you are also doing amazing.
• 19:31
  Keep going. You are.
• 19:33
  Don't stop. That's my bit of emotional
• 19:36
  motivational junk. Wait, that was like so beautiful
• 19:39
  though. Like everything in the entire
• 19:40
  story and like how you decided just to go do it.
• 19:42
  Because I feel like I love the idea of, like, having a dream
• 19:46
  and just going after it. And that's why I fucking love
• 19:48
  LA. It's just a city of creatives
• 19:50
  and city of people who want to make it and city of people who
• 19:52
  want to create something. And like, being around that
• 19:54
  energy for me is like everything.
• 19:56
  So I'm not originally from LA and I know you moved from
• 19:59
  Toronto to LA. Yeah.
• 20:01
  How's being in LA for you? In LA for me, well, first of
• 20:04
  all, just to say like to go and do that.
• 20:07
  Like I was so privileged to be able to even do that, like.
• 20:10
  That's a rare take I feel like. No, I was like, I was so
• 20:14
  privileged. I'm not going to deny that I'm,
• 20:16
  I'm never going to sit here and be like I came from nothing when
• 20:20
  I did. I grew up fine.
• 20:21
  But I don't care if someone's more talented than me, I'll
• 20:25
  outwork them. And I think that is what I like
• 20:28
  about LA. Like I wouldn't know that if I,
• 20:30
  I don't know if I had moved here, if I would have been able
• 20:34
  to do it right. You like, you just never know.
• 20:37
  Until you got here. Right until you, until I got
• 20:39
  here. It's a different.
• 20:40
  World, where are you from again? I'm originally from Orange
• 20:42
  County, which is about an hour South of LA, and then I lived in
• 20:46
  New York for a few years and then from New York I moved to LA
• 20:49
  to do this. It's so expensive here though,
• 20:52
  like. It's so expensive.
• 20:54
  You really have to be from hustle.
• 20:58
  You have to hustle like it's tough.
• 21:00
  You have to make money. Same thing with New York, like
• 21:02
  it's these two cities are beautiful and there's so many
• 21:05
  opportunities, but you just, you have to make money at the end of
• 21:08
  the day. I think a lot of people don't
• 21:10
  recognize how much sacrifice that their favorite entertainers
• 21:12
  have made to be able to get there.
• 21:14
  And like not even before they become like Sabrina Carpenter or
• 21:17
  like Billy or anything. It's like the amount of work and
• 21:20
  like sacrifice and intention and it is so costly to create
• 21:24
  something and then hope that people will resonate with it and
• 21:26
  see it and like it. And it's like it's a lot and
• 21:29
  people just don't see it. Cuz I think for me, I love being
• 21:31
  an entertainer and I love when people can see something from me
• 21:34
  and like feel like whatever with whatever they feel from it.
• 21:37
  But it's like the amount of work and heartbreak and blood and
• 21:40
  dedication and everything to get it there is crazy and it's never
• 21:43
  seen, you know? I just have so much respect for
• 21:46
  all artists because of that, and even people just chasing their
• 21:50
  dreams, pursuing them, doing what they can, making ends meet.
• 21:53
  Like, even if you're not in entertainment and you know, you
• 21:59
  work at like a local grocery Mart or wherever it may be, at
• 22:04
  the end of the day, everyone's got to eat.
• 22:06
  Definitely. It's it's honestly inspiring to
• 22:08
  me too because like right now I have like I have two artists
• 22:10
  living with me right now. And yeah, I know super random,
• 22:13
  right? Who?
• 22:16
  Who? Yeah.
• 22:16
  Oh, am I allowed to ask that or you don't have to answer?
• 22:19
  I mean, it's Tululu Tulu. OK, wait.
• 22:24
  I'm just, I'm just laughing because one of them requested I
• 22:27
  don't talk about them on the show.
• 22:28
  So I was like, oh, that's so. Funny.
• 22:29
  We can. We can cut it out though.
• 22:31
  We'll look. At that.
• 22:31
  But yeah, I have two artists. I have two artists living with
• 22:33
  me right now. Oh.
• 22:34
  That's awesome. Yeah, and literally watching
• 22:36
  them, it's just like, it's also inspiring to me because it's
• 22:38
  just like people really want to make it and they want to share
• 22:41
  their art and their music and connect.
• 22:43
  And that's inspiring to me because I feel like I'm in a
• 22:45
  different world. I feel like I'm an adjacent
• 22:48
  world, but not exactly there. And just watching that.
• 22:50
  I'm also where I am right now. I'm in a very privileged
• 22:53
  position where it's like, you know, I'm making money, I'm
• 22:56
  doing fine for myself, etcetera. Whereas versus like other people
• 22:59
  might be in a different position and they're trying to make it.
• 23:02
  And I just love watching the scope of it all and also
• 23:05
  believing in them and believing in just everyone who tells me
• 23:08
  they have a dream because nothing's crazy to me where
• 23:09
  people are like, oh, I want this, I want a Grammy data and
• 23:11
  I'm like, cool, and I'll see you there.
• 23:12
  That's amazing. Aww Oh yeah, it really is.
• 23:15
  It is like you really. I'm so driven by dreams and.
• 23:20
  Me too. I don't know, I feel like the
• 23:23
  longer I've been in LA, the more of that I've been losing
• 23:25
  recently. Really.
• 23:27
  Yeah. Which is kind of making me sad.
• 23:28
  Wait, let's get into it. What do you think you're losing
• 23:30
  that? It's just like you come here
• 23:32
  with such a spark in your eyes, right?
• 23:34
  Oh, it'll kill you, Yeah. And it just feels like, I don't
• 23:40
  know, life has this way of just sucking you.
• 23:47
  I would say life LA the industry.
• 23:50
  Is is a different scenario? It's such a flux and flow and it
• 23:53
  can be so devastating because it's just like, quite literally,
• 23:56
  I have no idea how much I'm going to be making next month.
• 23:58
  I don't know how much I'm making this month.
• 23:59
  Like it kind of just is all over the place.
• 24:01
  That's kind of like the life of, I think, a creative in general.
• 24:04
  But I also like, remember why I'm here and why I'm doing this
• 24:07
  and like, I'm thankful I can even do this, you know?
• 24:09
  Right. What do you think your intention
• 24:11
  is? My intention literally just to
• 24:13
  help people express themselves. Mentally.
• 24:16
  Physically, fashion wise, Like aesthetically, creatively, and
• 24:21
  that sounds broad, but it really that's just like my goal.
• 24:24
  That's like what's driving you. Yes.
• 24:27
  And I feel like that's what makes you, helps you create such
• 24:29
  incredible art too. Well, it just makes you feel
• 24:32
  less of like a shit person because then I'm like, oh, I'm
• 24:35
  not just doing this for myself and by the.
• 24:37
  Way it's completely OK if you are just doing it for yourself
• 24:40
  too. I mean, yeah, some of it's for
• 24:41
  myself because like, that's therapy, of course, but.
• 24:44
  I'm still an artist. But and like, I want to express
• 24:47
  myself and be who I am at the end of the day, I'm a person.
• 24:50
  But for sure, even though I act like I have no feelings like 90%
• 24:54
  of the time, but I guess that's just where my head's at in
• 24:58
  general when it comes to self-expression.
• 25:00
  How's how's it like for you? Like what's your creative
• 25:05
  process, I guess with the show and coming up with episodes?
• 25:10
  And I mean, I guess we can follow the structure of what you
• 25:13
  have, but how do you come up with that structure?
• 25:15
  Do you have a team or is that all you?
• 25:18
  Well, honestly, I would say I work with so many incredible
• 25:21
  talented people. Like I'm very grateful for where
• 25:24
  I am and my team. I think when it comes to the
• 25:26
  show in general too, it's like I have a lot of artists come on
• 25:30
  and I really want to give them the utmost dignity and respect.
• 25:33
  And I want to show them that I care about their art, who they
• 25:34
  are as an artist. Because I feel like when I watch
• 25:36
  other people's interviews, like I think this comes from a place
• 25:39
  of hubris, hubris. I don't know if I'm saying it
• 25:41
  right, like ego and pride where I think it's better then I like
• 25:44
  see other people interviewing other artists or whatever.
• 25:46
  Like no shade to your previous things that you've done or your
• 25:50
  host. Felt like, I feel like when I
• 25:52
  was watching, I was like, I think I could do better than
• 25:54
  this and I'm going to do better than this.
• 25:55
  Not that they were not amazing because they definitely were and
• 25:58
  I loved everything I watched, but I was like, I know what I
• 26:01
  want to ask. I know what I want to get into.
• 26:03
  You know what you want. Yeah, definitely, because like
• 26:05
  it's more than just a show to me.
• 26:06
  It's like I'm I want to build a world out of it and that's what
• 26:09
  I'm trying to do right now. And it's like obviously it's
• 26:11
  like a 24/7 job, but I write the show with a Co writer Cameron.
• 26:16
  He helped me write this episode with If You Owned.
• 26:17
  We're so excited to have you. And then I love my team.
• 26:20
  Very grateful for them, Brett, Mina and the rest.
• 26:25
  It seems like you have a great team around you and I'm excited
• 26:28
  to be here too. And I didn't mean to get all
• 26:30
  like sappy by the way or like bring down any vibes.
• 26:33
  I was just, I'm like too honest and I will always bite me in the
• 26:38
  ass because then people think I'm a bitch but like no
• 26:41
  honestly. We're also grateful for that
• 26:46
  cause. To be honest, I feel like I have
• 26:47
  such a reputation for being like such a so I, I feel like that's
• 26:52
  the reputation I have. I've been told so many things
• 26:54
  about myself where I'm just like, well.
• 26:56
  Well-being also like a younger person in general.
• 27:01
  If you gel anyone in a space who like has been in the game or has
• 27:06
  more technically knowledge quote quotation marks than you telling
• 27:11
  someone your opinion and your thoughts can come across as
• 27:13
  bitchy. Yeah, of course, even though
• 27:15
  your thoughts could be actually a more accurate and insightful
• 27:18
  than theirs. You spell it because the way I
• 27:20
  look at it, it's just like, bro, I'm just trying to create
• 27:23
  something. And like I feel like there are a
• 27:24
  lot of people feeling they're getting so much trouble for
• 27:26
  this. I feel like there are a lot of
• 27:27
  people in positions of power or funding who have a lot of say
• 27:30
  into it. And at the same time, it's just
• 27:32
  like, but you're not a creative. And I'm not saying that you're
• 27:34
  not a creative and like. They don't know what they're
• 27:37
  doing. They don't.
• 27:37
  I'm just like and what I want like my ideal world because
• 27:40
  eventually I would love to like expand on the world of emotions
• 27:42
  like I would do. I would love to have a record
• 27:44
  label like emotions records. I would love to have a
• 27:45
  management. I would love to have like every.
• 27:47
  I want to, I want to be able to like guide young creatives and
• 27:51
  like support them the way that I felt like I wasn't supported.
• 27:54
  But the way I look at it is like, I would love it if a
• 27:56
  creative can make their art and then just turn it into me and I
• 27:58
  could just market it versus like being like, no, I think this is
• 28:02
  more marketable. You should be this.
• 28:03
  I hate that and I hate being told that.
• 28:05
  And I hate seeing artists being told that.
• 28:07
  You you should not sign to a record label then my friend.
• 28:10
  Oh shit, OK, we're going to stay indie under we'll be under
• 28:14
  Emotions Records. So if you want to sign.
• 28:18
  Why not Delulu Records? Delulu Records.
• 28:21
  Oh shit, damn. Wait, I'm gonna.
• 28:23
  I think I'm gonna do that. Yeah, why am I?
• 28:25
  Let's create an empire oh because like that's my username
• 28:27
  like I'm emotions you know what I mean that's what I've been
• 28:29
  going As for the past like 5 years but like delulu is the new
• 28:33
  brand face image, everything I do want to make a world out of
• 28:36
  it like I. Don't know, it just has a ring
• 28:38
  to it. We're going to go with it,
• 28:39
  Delulu. Record emotions is cool though
• 28:41
  too. Thank you.
• 28:41
  OK, Either way, we'll we'll figure it out.
• 28:44
  I do love delulu though. That's where I'm investing
• 28:46
  everything in right now is delulu.
• 28:49
  Yeah, I think you should. And I think you're going to see
• 28:51
  your work pay off. I'm still a very hard believer
• 28:53
  of hard work pays off, even if it takes more time than.
• 28:56
  I mean, it's, it just has to be true.
• 28:57
  And if you like, for me, it's like it is just putting in the
• 29:00
  work and making sure everything is intentional too, you know?
• 29:03
  Yeah, definitely. Damn, this has been
• 29:07
  introspective. Should.
• 29:09
  We change the topic to something like more light, I don't know.
• 29:12
  Sure. Let's go into the personas that
• 29:14
  you have with your music. OK, So you have different
• 29:17
  personas when you're recording your music, and this is
• 29:20
  something that you did when you were doing your Glitch EP, but
• 29:23
  we're moving into New Era, so I have so many different
• 29:25
  questions. I want to talk about your
• 29:26
  personas and who these personas are with the new music that
• 29:29
  you've been putting out. Can I be honest with you?
• 29:32
  Spill. I kind of dropped the personas.
• 29:35
  Oh my God, they're done. Because.
• 29:37
  I'm just Sophie Powers. Shit, I love that.
• 29:39
  Why am I trying to be all of these other versions of myself?
• 29:42
  Why do you think you were doing it before?
• 29:45
  Because it was helping me compartmentalize all of my
• 29:49
  different capabilities and skill sets.
• 29:52
  But you can be everything. Exactly I want to do it.
• 29:55
  All. And that's my problem.
• 29:57
  RIP Newt Miley. I can, I can still do all of
• 30:00
  those characters, but I already know like those are in the bag.
• 30:03
  Like those are different voices and characters that I still
• 30:06
  have. But at the end of the day, it's
• 30:08
  all me. Even pixel girl like that's
• 30:09
  still me. It's all you, yeah.
• 30:11
  Do you feel like with Pixel Girl, like you said, the
• 30:13
  intention of that one was that you want to be taken seriously
• 30:15
  as an artist, as a writer, but Pixel Corey can be a little more
• 30:18
  silly, a little less serious. Do you feel like that's just a
• 30:21
  facet that you're just going to absorb into Sylvie powers in
• 30:23
  general as well? No, I actually think those,
• 30:27
  well, it already is kind of self absorbed because people know
• 30:30
  it's me. I'm not hiding my face.
• 30:32
  It's literally just me with a Band-Aid and a wig.
• 30:34
  But I will say that it speaks to my journey of wanting to
• 30:41
  encourage others to express themselves, whether that's
• 30:43
  serious or funny or not serious or intense.
• 30:48
  I think people view art as very two-dimensional as oh, they're
• 30:54
  like a serious artist or oh, they're like a meme artist.
• 30:57
  Like this person, like makes like pop fun songs.
• 31:00
  It's like, it's not that one-dimensional, honestly.
• 31:03
  Like, yeah, so I, I just wanted also a safe space to like make
• 31:09
  whatever I wanted to and like not have to answer anyone or be
• 31:14
  judged or answer to the public. It's just like I just don't care
• 31:21
  if this is a song and it's kind of low lift in the sense that
• 31:25
  obviously it's like still methodical and process like
• 31:28
  thought out and I'm writing the lyrics right.
• 31:31
  But it's not hitting that like deep introspective.
• 31:40
  Like it it's taken me five years to release the song that I'm
• 31:43
  like releasing next month. Five years of rewriting on one
• 31:47
  song. I'm not doing that for Pixel
• 31:49
  Girl. I just want to make art and not
• 31:51
  think of it. And I just want to draw, pick up
• 31:54
  the paper, pick up the pen, not let go of the pencil, finish the
• 31:59
  piece, and then drop everything at once.
• 32:01
  It's like an artistic exercise. No, that's awesome though,
• 32:04
  because like for me, I'm so precious with my work.
• 32:06
  Like I will hold on to things for such a long time and I'll
• 32:08
  like hold off and releasing things just because I feel like
• 32:11
  I also wanted to do well and I wanted to have its life.
• 32:13
  And I just feel like, especially with this day and age when it
• 32:15
  comes to content, content creation, when it comes to
• 32:17
  artists, like people are just like throwing things out so
• 32:20
  frequently and I want everything to have its moment.
• 32:23
  Yeah, there's so much. There's so much being put into
• 32:25
  the world every day. It's actually amazing though.
• 32:29
  But it's also like, think about it this way.
• 32:30
  There are over 100,000 songs that go up on Spotify per day.
• 32:33
  That's crazy. Per day, per day, just.
• 32:36
  Spotify. Imagine now all the other
• 32:37
  streaming platforms. A new song came out today by
• 32:41
  Lily Is That You on Spotify. Queen Victoria produced it.
• 32:45
  Oh, really? It's.
• 32:47
  Actually, Friday. Oh well, I got the wrong
• 32:49
  information yesterday. It's coming out on Friday and
• 32:52
  we're all streaming. We will be streaming myself.
• 32:55
  Muddy comes out Friday as well. Oh my God, Muddy looks so
• 32:58
  sickening. Thank you.
• 32:59
  You have such. Like the videos and the visuals
• 33:01
  and everything you do. Like, this is literally a
• 33:03
  segment in the show. I want to talk about your
• 33:05
  visuals. But like, they're so intentional
• 33:08
  and they're so like, well thought out.
• 33:09
  Like, can we talk about Muddy's visuals?
• 33:12
  Of course I wanted the music video and thank you.
• 33:14
  By the way, I wanted the music video to contrast light and
• 33:17
  dark. So if there's like this silk
• 33:21
  white, almost ethereal setting combined with this more literal
• 33:26
  grit, concrete and then mud setting.
• 33:31
  But it's like all intentional like I when I actually like
• 33:36
  shadow to Logan Rice because we Co directed it.
• 33:39
  But like the treatment that I created for Logan and like
• 33:45
  creating like location reference images to the best of my
• 33:49
  abilities on Photoshop to the styling and the makeup and hair
• 33:53
  and like the art direction in that sense.
• 33:55
  Like I am pulling all I'm reaching out to independent
• 34:00
  designers on Instagram. Like I know exactly what styles
• 34:03
  I want to work with. I'm creating like the mood
• 34:05
  boards of what exactly I want to wear, like references for
• 34:08
  pieces, sketching them out. So I didn't specifically design
• 34:12
  anything for that video, but it's still very much like hands
• 34:15
  on like I. Mean it sounds like top to
• 34:17
  bottom. It's like really intense too.
• 34:19
  I'm sitting with the editor for four hours on a call, like going
• 34:23
  through each cut. I'm like this colorist.
• 34:26
  I want this colorist, I need this editor, I need this DP.
• 34:29
  Like obviously it's collaborative like effort.
• 34:31
  I'm not just like of course steamrolling everyone, but I
• 34:35
  really know what I want in terms of my artistic vision.
• 34:38
  And for that song I have put like my whole like.
• 34:43
  I mean, it looks like it's such a.
• 34:44
  Budget what it. Looks like it's such a budget.
• 34:48
  I did not. I'm an independent artist.
• 34:50
  That's crazy. I'm covering like 7 different
• 34:52
  people's roles just to like reduce budget half the time.
• 34:55
  Oh my God, it's so sickening. Thank you.
• 34:57
  It comes out really good. I actually think like looking at
• 35:00
  it and thinking like Oh my God, this must have been so crazy
• 35:02
  expensive. No for to look at quality.
• 35:04
  I actually like that. And that's the thing.
• 35:06
  I'm so thankful that like, I have creatives who are also just
• 35:11
  so willing and down to like, just make something cool.
• 35:16
  I fucking love that and like. Input their creative vision and
• 35:19
  I love I love working with people who aren't afraid to tell
• 35:22
  me no because otherwise I'm just going to do what I.
• 35:25
  I want no, literally I was just telling my team where I was
• 35:28
  like, I can't work with yes men because like yes, then that's
• 35:31
  where it gets. Really.
• 35:32
  Money. No, Yes.
• 35:37
  Well, yes. No, no, no, actually, no.
• 35:39
  Actually, no. Actually no.
• 35:40
  OK, Period. Right.
• 35:41
  OK, same page. Yes, wait, no, damn it.
• 35:46
  You know what I mean though. But I I actually enjoyed that
• 35:50
  creative process. It was one of the funnest videos
• 35:52
  I shot. I'm really excited.
• 35:54
  I directed, I creative directed, I Co edited, like probably did
• 35:58
  everything. Obviously I had a Co director
• 36:01
  and I had a Co creative director, But these people are
• 36:04
  helping me execute my vision and I just really, yeah, hope people
• 36:08
  like it. You know what excites me the
• 36:10
  most about you as an artist is like how much this is Sophie
• 36:14
  Powers world. And I really feel like
• 36:16
  everything you do, the music, the lyrics, the visuals, like
• 36:19
  even down to the sounds, it's like I feel like I'm taking
• 36:23
  right there, like I'm in that world with you.
• 36:25
  Well, thank you. I'm actually working on
• 36:27
  relinquishing some of that creative control because I just
• 36:31
  don't have the bandwidth anymore.
• 36:34
  Also, like it's hard because budget wise I do have to like
• 36:38
  cover those extra roles, but right now my main focus is what
• 36:42
  you're saying like bringing people into that deeper world.
• 36:45
  I'm building out a new album currently a mini mini album and
• 36:51
  all of these singles like Muddy and all that.
• 36:54
  It's kind of just like the precursors for what the
• 36:57
  storyline. I'm very much like I've gone
• 36:59
  into film this past year, like extremely and like, yeah, just
• 37:03
  taking a lot of inspirations from like Maria Bukovich, I'm
• 37:07
  probably butchering her last name.
• 37:08
  But like do performative like art.
• 37:11
  I'm doing like a a 24 hour live stream for my song Muddy where
• 37:15
  like it's like just me. And shut the hell up.
• 37:18
  No, I'm. Actually doing it I actually
• 37:19
  think happens tomorrow or the day after.
• 37:21
  OK, I'm watching tuning in. Yes, TuneIn, I'm literally going
• 37:26
  to be on a stream for 24 hours unless it ends earlier because
• 37:31
  I'll be in this sort of glass encasement.
• 37:34
  And I'm just I'm wondering what people will do if there's mud
• 37:40
  and just a 21 year old girl in this glass encasement.
• 37:43
  How how bad? Like how?
• 37:45
  What state is the world in, right?
• 37:46
  Now I'm like scared for you now she like protects.
• 37:49
  You, if you donate sobs, someone's going to pour mud into
• 37:51
  that tank. And if that mud like hits my
• 37:54
  neck before the 24 hours, like that's the state that we're in
• 37:58
  in the world. It's more so like something I'm
• 38:00
  curious about and also performative.
• 38:01
  Art Experience. I mean, it's also just a
• 38:05
  testament to how strongly that I believe in this song.
• 38:10
  And I believe that we need to focus more on art and creativity
• 38:15
  and self-expression and freedom of speech and exploration of
• 38:18
  personal character. That was a lot of like different
• 38:22
  words thrown into. And it's totally made complete
• 38:24
  sense to all of us. Though you understand what I'm
• 38:26
  trying to get at, I think that it's just so important now, so
• 38:30
  more than ever, especially with like AI and all of that
• 38:34
  bullshit. And being passionate about your
• 38:36
  projects and your art, though, like I always say this, like
• 38:38
  when I'm talking about myself, it's like, you know, I don't
• 38:40
  believe in myself. I don't believe in my work.
• 38:41
  Who, how can I convince anyone else to believe in it?
• 38:43
  You know? And I feel like it's giving that
• 38:45
  commitment and dedication to it because that's like, that's a
• 38:48
  lot of grit. I know my capabilities and I
• 38:50
  believe in my capabilities. Do I believe in the way that I
• 38:53
  like look in the morning? No.
• 38:56
  Do I believe in like, you know, my, oh, my voice or certain
• 39:00
  other aspects when I'm just talking?
• 39:01
  No. I'll probably listen to this
• 39:02
  podcast and like hate the sound of my voice.
• 39:04
  But when I'm singing, you're on that stage.
• 39:06
  It's like you have to know who you are and know what you bring
• 39:09
  to the table. Otherwise, what are what are you
• 39:13
  sitting down for at the table Like you're just Shanee bro.
• 39:17
  No, absolutely. That was a bad metaphor.
• 39:20
  Well, I didn't even get that metaphor.
• 39:21
  What were you metaphoring? I was trying to refer to the
• 39:24
  fact of like self worth and knowing who you are.
• 39:28
  I'm sure you with your podcast like you have to have and come
• 39:31
  in with intentions, yeah, otherwise you risk no one
• 39:35
  listening. Yeah, for sure.
• 39:36
  Like I'm very like, I'm super intentional.
• 39:38
  Like that's why I feel like I resonate a lot with you.
• 39:40
  It's like the world, but like we talked about.
• 39:42
  I also dealt myself a lot though.
• 39:44
  Doubt. That's human.
• 39:46
  I doubt myself. I'm doubting myself right now.
• 39:47
  I'm like, has this been going well?
• 39:49
  What? No, it has been going well.
• 39:51
  I'm actually going to have a fruit roll up because I've been
• 39:53
  doing this conversation so much and you guys were nice enough to
• 39:56
  give me. Wait, was that a fruit roll up?
• 39:58
  Fruit. Rolls.
• 39:58
  It's like a healthy version of what a fruit roll up would be.
• 40:01
  We only have healthy snacks here at The Lulu.
• 40:04
  Not my intention, but that's what we're providing.
• 40:07
  OK, Well, that's so awesome. And I feel like especially with
• 40:10
  everything that you're talking about, like the commitment to
• 40:12
  your craft is crazy, but we talked about it.
• 40:15
  You have to be crazy to make it like genuinely.
• 40:17
  Yes, and your commitment also like wait, you're the best.
• 40:20
  I really relate to you. I'm serious.
• 40:22
  Like it's, it's really honorable.
• 40:24
  Wait. Oh my God, Thank you so much.
• 40:26
  I so appreciate that. That's so sweet.
• 40:28
  Thank you. Also by the way to everyone
• 40:31
  listening right now, you do not have to take my advice on
• 40:33
  anything I just said. I still don't know what the fuck
• 40:35
  I'm doing, half the time I just be saying shit and trying my
• 40:39
  best and doing what I want. I personally am going to take
• 40:43
  every advice that you've given. No like.
• 40:45
  Seriously. Like I am when parents say like,
• 40:48
  oh, my daughter's like looks up to you.
• 40:50
  I'm like please don't. Like I'm not going to be a role
• 40:52
  model. I am like, like, of course I'm
• 40:55
  trying to be, but I'm doing a shit job at it.
• 40:58
  Probably not though. Like honestly, at the end of the
• 41:00
  day, what you're representing is be yourself and like express
• 41:04
  yourself how you want to express yourself.
• 41:06
  And I feel like you do a great job exemplifying that.
• 41:08
  Thank you. So I feel like that's honestly
• 41:11
  more than enough. What else can anyone ask for?
• 41:14
  I mean, there's a lot of things that I feel like people ask for
• 41:18
  and expect from especially like female music artists.
• 41:21
  So there is more. But hey, all I can do is like my
• 41:26
  best. And at the end of the day, like
• 41:29
  don't, don't model your kid out for me.
• 41:32
  I'm, I'm a 21 year old girl. I I don't know, I'm not freer
• 41:37
  in. I'm sorry.
• 41:37
  That's an anime I've been watching.
• 41:38
  She's like 3000 years old or something.
• 41:41
  Yeah, she's like this, like all knowing, like mage.
• 41:45
  I just, I don't have that at all.
• 41:48
  OK, that's fair. Honestly we shouldn't have
• 41:50
  expectations that anyone should have it figured out anyways.
• 41:52
  But I think what's interesting about what you're talking about,
• 41:54
  Do you feel like you're super self critical of yourself?
• 41:56
  Like you said, you have your your doubts of yourself.
• 41:59
  I'm so self critical, I'm so hard on myself.
• 42:01
  That's why my song Better on Mute.
• 42:03
  It's like I'm my own worst enemy.
• 42:05
  Right. Like, you can say this to me,
• 42:07
  but like, it's nothing that I wouldn't have said to myself or
• 42:10
  even it's probably not even as bad as what I would say.
• 42:12
  To myself exactly. And I love that it's like a jab
• 42:15
  back at those comments, too. No, like I literally will beat
• 42:19
  myself up to the point of like actual like questionable like
• 42:24
  girl talk to a therapist. But that's.
• 42:26
  Why music is there self-destructive?
• 42:28
  So like, I get that. That's what my songs are for
• 42:31
  though. It's like I can talk about that
• 42:33
  and it's a form of free therapy and also I'm sure people can
• 42:38
  relate to that as. Well, definitely relate to.
• 42:40
  That, yeah, for sure. In today's society, too, with
• 42:42
  social media, honestly, at the age of 25, living in the United
• 42:47
  States, if you're a female and you do not have any sort of
• 42:51
  like, cosmetic adjustments, you're made to think that you're
• 42:54
  not beautiful. That's so far.
• 42:55
  Like what? You're right.
• 42:57
  That's crazy. I mean, look, I'll still
• 42:59
  probably do it. I'm not above it, but I'm just
• 43:01
  saying it's that's the world we live in.
• 43:04
  I mean the expectations for female pop artists in general
• 43:06
  are so high and like it's completely unrealistic but like
• 43:10
  it's exactly what you. Said even for men though, like
• 43:13
  young males, like the physical and financial and even emotional
• 43:18
  expectations. Like I look at my 16 year old
• 43:21
  brother Charlie. I'm like Charlie, you know, you
• 43:24
  don't like, you don't have to like do these things because
• 43:28
  society is telling you, like you like, take the strides and steps
• 43:32
  that you want in your life. You know, like I try to
• 43:36
  encourage him. It's just it's hard.
• 43:38
  It's super hard. It's super hard.
• 43:40
  I especially think with everything you see in media this
• 43:43
  generation, I think AI makes it so much worse because in it like
• 43:46
  really makes it more like we're leaning towards more perfection
• 43:49
  and less just being human, you know?
• 43:51
  Obviously. But yeah, that's some bullshit.
• 43:55
  Well, it's also my siblings. I have triple younger siblings.
• 44:00
  So they're all 17 now going to uni next year.
• 44:05
  They're seniors in high school. And like I just anyone listening
• 44:12
  to this, like if you're in university, you just graduated
• 44:14
  or if you're about to go really, it's hard when you have
• 44:19
  expectations of your family. I know, I know.
• 44:23
  But you do not want to look back and live with so many regrets
• 44:30
  because you couldn't do what you wanted to do in like 10 years
• 44:33
  from now. Be like damn I should have done
• 44:34
  this. Yeah, I hate that idea.
• 44:36
  I just I try that's. A scary idea.
• 44:38
  I just try to live the most without regrets.
• 44:41
  Yeah, same. I think my philosophy is like if
• 44:43
  I'm not having the best time at all times, I don't want to do it
• 44:48
  genuinely. Like if I I don't want to spend
• 44:49
  an hour not doing what I want to do.
• 44:51
  My thing is like my biggest, I guess virtue in life is freedom.
• 44:56
  I want to be free to do anything I want, say whatever I want, do
• 45:00
  whatever I want. I just want freedom.
• 45:02
  I hate constraints and I mean that's why I have like a lot of
• 45:05
  issues. Oh really?
• 45:06
  You think so? What's your can I ask your Myers
• 45:08
  brace personality type? OK, it is ENFJ.
• 45:13
  What's yours? Even TJ.
• 45:14
  Oh shit. OK, so pretty similar.
• 45:16
  I'm sorry you said you want to guess, I just.
• 45:18
  I would not have guests. I'm so bad at keeping my mouth
• 45:21
  shut I I'd be yapping. That's why it's a good podcast.
• 45:25
  Yes, you're a good podcast guest.
• 45:27
  Oh, thank you. Yes.
• 45:28
  Let me ask my publicist real quick.
• 45:29
  Have I said anything cancelable or are we chilling?
• 45:32
  No, you've said things that are really authentic and
• 45:34
  interesting. Yes, authentic and interesting
• 45:36
  things only. I think so, absolutely.
• 45:39
  On that note, what artists have been copying you and can you
• 45:42
  name them? She like Laird.
• 45:46
  She's like, she's like, not that one.
• 45:48
  I'm just kidding. For the podcast, because I
• 45:53
  really actually don't have any hate to any of them as well.
• 45:56
  Like I take that always as a compliment and I think art
• 46:00
  influences art. So even if like they're not
• 46:02
  meaning to like nothing I've done is exclusively mine.
• 46:06
  Everything at some point has been done before.
• 46:08
  It's 2025. That's.
• 46:09
  What I'm trying to take from you, because you mentioned that
• 46:11
  too, where you don't even get mad at anymore.
• 46:13
  I get so mad when people copy me and it's like just, I guess more
• 46:17
  blatant copying. I don't mind like loose
• 46:18
  inspirations or whatever, but like if I see something like, Oh
• 46:21
  yeah, that. It's just going to happen if
• 46:23
  you're doing a good job of what you're doing and the 1st and
• 46:26
  being the first of what you're doing and you have to remember
• 46:29
  that. I love that.
• 46:31
  Don't forget it. Thank you so much.
• 46:32
  I'm going to say that's my mantra every night.
• 46:35
  Oh, really? I will now well.
• 46:37
  You should forget it if that's the case.
• 46:38
  I would not say that as your maldra.
• 46:40
  OK, we need to double down on the on the advice that we're
• 46:43
  giving. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:44
  For real. I need to shut up.
• 46:46
  I'm like, not some all knowing. I really actually, I give better
• 46:49
  advice than I take for myself. You know what I think it's like
• 46:52
  really powerful to acknowledge that.
• 46:53
  It's like you don't know anything anyways, because that's
• 46:54
  how exactly how I feel too. It's like I don't know anything.
• 46:57
  People shouldn't ask me anything.
• 46:58
  I write in my journal all the time.
• 46:59
  We're like, I have no idea the fuck I'm doing.
• 47:01
  I feel like I think I know. I give people advice as if I
• 47:03
  know and I'm like, I don't know. I really don't know.
• 47:07
  I don't think anyone knows. No one knows and no one should
• 47:10
  know. Genuinely, even the Albert
• 47:14
  Einstein's still there are still things he did not know.
• 47:18
  There are still things we do not know about the human body.
• 47:21
  Doctors, years, years, years studying that we do not know and
• 47:24
  are still figuring out. And I just, yeah, that's just
• 47:28
  life. Just acknowledge not knowing.
• 47:29
  It's fine. Yeah.
• 47:30
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 47:30
  Shit. Hey, that's what me think.
• 47:34
  I'm delulu as hell. What's up?
• 47:36
  So you are finding everything by yourself now.
• 47:39
  But you were previously signed to a record label.
• 47:42
  So what's that experience? Life.
• 47:43
  I know you mentioned that you were dropped by the label.
• 47:44
  They had a lot of shifts on the team.
• 47:46
  Oh, spill. Where we at?
• 47:48
  Sorry, I'm really bad at hiding my facial expression.
• 47:50
  Oh no, I'm the fucking worst at it.
• 47:52
  Need to get better at. That.
• 47:53
  No, honestly, just own it. I'm not media trained really.
• 47:57
  No but but. Work for Tristan.
• 48:01
  Yeah, I'll say, look, my experience is probably different
• 48:05
  from every single artist on that label or any major label because
• 48:10
  the thing about major labels is it does not actually matter
• 48:14
  where you sign. It does to a certain extent, but
• 48:15
  it's your team there and these labels go through shuffles.
• 48:19
  So my team and my situation, I signed through a joint venture
• 48:24
  label. Shout out to who gave support at
• 48:26
  He was my ANR on tag. Tag was a label with Atlantic
• 48:31
  and Atlantic got a new CEO. They got absorbed and all of
• 48:38
  those joint ventures, like I think 99% of them were cut.
• 48:45
  They cut all JV from Atlantic and like the Fueled by Ramans
• 48:49
  were just upstreamed because it was underneath Warner.
• 48:52
  So all of those artists then went to Atlantic.
• 48:54
  So imagine their bandwidth now they they just essentially, not
• 48:59
  that they were like cutting the dead weight, but that was just
• 49:02
  the circumstance. Too much for them to.
• 49:03
  Handle it was yeah, so new CEO, so I was signed through JV and
• 49:07
  it was just this whole like yeah, it was just this whole up
• 49:11
  in the air thing. I know they caught like 302
• 49:16
  hundred other artists, like 100 other arts, so it wasn't just me
• 49:18
  singled out, but still that is very soul crushing when you are,
• 49:23
  you know, working so hard since the age of 15 and then touring
• 49:27
  until 1718. Then you get signed and you do
• 49:29
  the thing and you you. Feel all your.
• 49:31
  Dreams and all your dreams are coming true and then you sign
• 49:35
  the record deal at 18 and then at 19.
• 49:40
  Or I think I had, no, I think yeah, I was 19 for you to just
• 49:46
  like, Oh yeah, by the way, like you're dropped.
• 49:48
  And that's just this company that you've put your whole
• 49:52
  entire soul into and everything, like you've given them
• 49:55
  everything, every part of yourself, like dedicated your
• 49:58
  art and just should be like let go.
• 50:00
  And just like, yeah, like things can change that easily.
• 50:03
  It's just really soul crushing. I'm sure anyone who's worked at
• 50:07
  a company for a long time and been let go of their job.
• 50:10
  It's just a really hard thing. And I don't like hold anyone
• 50:16
  specifically like accountable for that.
• 50:19
  I think my experience with their with a lot of my experience
• 50:23
  there with a lot of the people was like actually great.
• 50:25
  Actually loved a lot of my team and yeah, I wasn't like begging
• 50:33
  anyone to like stay, but it's also just like really hard to
• 50:38
  come to terms with the fact that what you thought was your
• 50:41
  forever home is like you were. It feels like I was kicked out
• 50:46
  of my house. I actually like came to terms
• 50:49
  with that, but I'm like a while ago, but I'm, I'm still healing,
• 50:53
  you know? Absolutely.
• 50:54
  I mean, that could be extremely traumatic, especially feeling
• 50:57
  like all your dreams came true. You're giving what you kind of
• 50:59
  wanted. Like, all artists would love to
• 51:01
  be signed to a label, of course. But you know what Bonnie McKee
• 51:04
  says? She says that being dropped from
• 51:05
  a label is like a rite of passage.
• 51:08
  And I actually think it's just part of my story.
• 51:10
  Like if I have this perfect story where I'm signed to the
• 51:14
  label and then I just blow up and then technically what I'm
• 51:19
  just going to get the industry plan accusations, I'm going to
• 51:22
  get the she didn't struggle. She had she like I came from
• 51:26
  this whatever family was like had all these connections.
• 51:29
  I by the way, knew like basically no one in the music
• 51:31
  industry. My dad like did like work with
• 51:34
  hair salons and he was an accountant, like I said, but he
• 51:38
  did the entrepreneur path. So unfortunately I got scouted.
• 51:43
  Well, I shouldn't say unfortunately, I got actually
• 51:45
  got scouted for Atlantic performing at a concert.
• 51:47
  Like it was not I didn't have a TikTok hit.
• 51:50
  I didn't have like a song blow up that then like people
• 51:53
  discovered me online for I kind of had like momentum that I was
• 51:57
  building and. That's like super old school of
• 51:59
  how they used to discover artists too.
• 52:00
  Yeah. And like, that's why I also have
• 52:03
  such a respect for older and upcoming artists because it's
• 52:09
  it's so hard, but also easier than ever to breakthrough.
• 52:12
  But it's also harder than ever because there's so much noise
• 52:15
  and it's so much easier to do where old school artist.
• 52:18
  There's a threshold. But yes, to your point, I'm now
• 52:21
  in the I have been meeting with other labels and I'm not opposed
• 52:24
  to like signing up the major again.
• 52:26
  Would you do another major label?
• 52:28
  No, I actually sorry, sorry, I'm not against it is what I meant
• 52:31
  to say. Like like I would do it
• 52:32
  obviously from a financial perspective, like totally it's
• 52:36
  really hard to do it alone. But I will say I would wait to
• 52:42
  do it on my own terms because I signed a deal when I was very
• 52:45
  young and I was developing and I own 18% of those songs and they
• 52:51
  own 87%. And that's like normal.
• 52:53
  Like I'm not pressed about that in any way.
• 52:57
  But the fact that that is normal is like, oh, like that's very
• 53:04
  eye opening. You know, if you're not in the
• 53:06
  music industry, like imagine someone taking 80% of your
• 53:11
  artwork every time you sold a painting and you're a painter
• 53:14
  for a living. I mean, but that's just the way
• 53:17
  it goes. If you're an upcoming and
• 53:18
  developing artist, like they're taking a chance on you, they're
• 53:21
  they're putting this money into you.
• 53:23
  So you're just, you know, that's like what you have to do.
• 53:26
  And I'm pretty realistic. I, like I said, try not to have
• 53:30
  too many regrets. I'm very thankful for like that
• 53:33
  experience, but I'm focused on my friends.
• 53:39
  I like the term friends, as in like friends and fans, the power
• 53:42
  puffs. I'm really focused on like
• 53:45
  building my community and my story and like what I actually
• 53:48
  want to do rather than who I want to do it with at this
• 53:53
  moment. I love that, and I think when
• 53:54
  you have that intention of focusing on the people that
• 53:57
  you're making the art for, that the people are going to consume
• 53:59
  it because that's how I do things.
• 54:01
  It's like at the end of the day, people can tell me what they
• 54:03
  think I should do, what's going to be easier to market,
• 54:05
  etcetera. But that's like, I'm not doing
• 54:06
  it for you. I'm not doing it for that.
• 54:08
  I'm doing it for them. I'm doing it for you.
• 54:10
  So it's just like that's how I hope I never lose that.
• 54:13
  So I love that you said that because I feel like actually a
• 54:15
  lot of people don't talk about that, but I really love that you
• 54:18
  said that. Well, thank you.
• 54:20
  I mean, there's a lot of things that I like still can't even
• 54:22
  talk about on this on this podcast.
• 54:24
  Like, yeah, and I'll because just, I also want to be as
• 54:29
  respectful as possible to like any people involved.
• 54:33
  And the music industry is a small place, but I will say to
• 54:37
  any upcoming artist like please, please, Please remember and look
• 54:44
  over that contract. As it came before.
• 54:46
  You signed it. I trusted the adults in the
• 54:49
  room. I still don't think I signed
• 54:51
  actually that horrible of a deal for where I was at in my career.
• 54:55
  But you know, that's that that's a long deal.
• 55:00
  Like I signed a 1 + 4. I think that that's four out.
• 55:04
  That's 10 years of your life. Like you're committing to these
• 55:06
  people, this company for like 10 years.
• 55:08
  In my case, I did not and that's why I didn't continue with
• 55:11
  glitch level 2. But yeah, it's just you're,
• 55:16
  you're really in for the long game with those people.
• 55:17
  So please read those contracts, surround yourself with the best
• 55:21
  people you can, and yeah, that's really all you can do.
• 55:25
  I'm going to piggyback off of that like absolutely baby knows
• 55:30
  a contract and they, I feel like there's, there's so much push
• 55:35
  and pull, especially in the industry, in any artists or
• 55:37
  anyone up and coming, anyone who wants to be creative, like,
• 55:39
  yeah, contracts, like read that shit.
• 55:41
  And also, I don't know, do your due diligence yourself because I
• 55:45
  also trust a lot of people to do it for me, which honestly has
• 55:48
  gone to me and so many situations.
• 55:50
  And I also want to tell you, I wish, I hope I have the grace
• 55:54
  that you have about how you left your previous record label.
• 55:57
  I hope I have that grace for whatever inevitably comes over
• 56:01
  here. Honolulu.
• 56:03
  So I'm going to, I'm going to remember that whenever anyone
• 56:06
  asked me about anything, I'm going to be like, OK, Sophie
• 56:08
  gave a really nice, clean PR answer, and I should too.
• 56:11
  Oh wow, that was a clean PR answer.
• 56:13
  It was. Gorgeous.
• 56:15
  We got the PR nod of approval. There we go.
• 56:19
  I mean look, eventually one day I will do the spill all, tell
• 56:22
  all and like fuck my enemies like fuck this bitch and let me
• 56:26
  do this. I'm like literally sorry.
• 56:27
  I don't know if I'm allowed to swear on here but.
• 56:29
  No, fuck yeah, swear. But like Will and I can't wait
• 56:33
  for that day to time because it's still like an ongoing
• 56:36
  thing. But until then, I will remain
• 56:40
  poised and as classy as I can be because I'm hey, I'm not trying
• 56:50
  to be the bigger person. I actually hate that.
• 56:52
  Like I'll be petty till the day I die.
• 56:54
  Love it. Me too.
• 56:54
  But I don't need to spew that pettiness.
• 56:56
  I can. I can internalize that.
• 56:58
  You're way better than me. Honestly.
• 56:59
  I'm in the same in a similar boat as you.
• 57:01
  Like the second I get the opportunity to speak or do
• 57:04
  whatever I want. Like I don't, I like to say
• 57:06
  this, I don't burn bridges. I like set the sea ablaze.
• 57:09
  Like I want to burn everything down.
• 57:12
  Like everything goes down with me.
• 57:13
  Like it's not just I burn a bridge, I'm going to light that
• 57:16
  motherfucker up. So that's how I feel.
• 57:18
  So when I have my documentary and my mom more and my tell all,
• 57:21
  like a lot of people would be scared and a lot of people
• 57:24
  should be scared. God damn.
• 57:27
  But anyways, I love any music. That was crazy.
• 57:30
  I wouldn't. I do not want to get on your bad
• 57:32
  side. Honestly, I agree.
• 57:33
  I completely agree. Brett should people piss me off?
• 57:37
  No, I'm terrified. He's kidding.
• 57:40
  He loves me. And also like you have to, I
• 57:45
  think, go through all these things like be dragged through
• 57:49
  the gutter to even like go to the top.
• 57:52
  Like like, I don't know. I like the idea of a non linear
• 57:55
  journey. Yeah, me too.
• 57:57
  And it's not linear. And if you look at a lot of
• 57:58
  people look at things like they expect to be like an overnight
• 58:00
  success or whatever, but then you look at people experience a
• 58:02
  Carpenter who's like 10 years in the making also.
• 58:04
  Chapel aroma job from my same label like and then seven years
• 58:09
  later is like the biggest thing absolutely so period Chapel.
• 58:13
  OK, period. Chapel.
• 58:15
  OK, so no glitch level 2. Not at the moment, no, because
• 58:19
  they still own everything I made in term technically, or a lot of
• 58:22
  those songs. So a lot of the new music.
• 58:24
  Is. After this label.
• 58:26
  Yes, got it. Some of the songs were even
• 58:30
  before I signed to them. Like I said, takes five years to
• 58:32
  make a song. I signed from 2023 till 2020,
• 58:40
  actually only got out of my deal in 2025 this year, even though I
• 58:43
  wasn't like, yeah, 'cause it took like, I think like 7 or 8
• 58:47
  months to get out of the contract.
• 58:49
  Yes. But so like, point being,
• 58:53
  there's music I made before I was with them.
• 58:56
  You know what I feel like with leaving the label, like this was
• 58:59
  a giant transition for you, Not just with leaving the label,
• 59:02
  just with your music, your image, like it was very bright,
• 59:06
  YA 2K more bubbly and you become more muted.
• 59:09
  And I feel like the music's gone darker, it's gone grittier.
• 59:12
  And your first release, Independent was Move with Me.
• 59:15
  So with Move With Me, you're talking about like going through
• 59:18
  the transitions and you need someone who's going to be able
• 59:20
  to keep up with you. And then the the video is so
• 59:22
  beautiful by the way. Thank you.
• 59:25
  Yes. Well, yeah, I mean, I was
• 59:27
  dropped through my label and entered my villain arc and
• 59:30
  wanted to change. Yeah.
• 59:31
  I'm in the villain arc right now.
• 59:32
  Oh yeah. Hell yeah.
• 59:33
  That's You're on to Lulu After Dark.
• 59:35
  This is the second season of the show, and I was kind of just
• 59:37
  going through a lot of shit at the time over the summer when I
• 59:39
  was like, I think I'm done filtering myself and being
• 59:43
  friendly and like cutesy and clean and I think I just want to
• 59:47
  say whatever the fuck I want to say now.
• 59:49
  Just say it. Just be yourself.
• 59:51
  I'm such a bad encourager of that.
• 59:52
  Actually, no, no, no. Honestly, I'm having the best
• 59:55
  times. I'm going to say everything.
• 59:56
  But yeah, that's kind of where I am now too.
• 59:58
  I was telling my Co writer I was like, I actually relate a lot to
• 1:00:00
  because you were talking in previous interviews about how,
• 1:00:03
  you know, this is such a visual shift for you too.
• 1:00:05
  It's not as bright, it gets a lot darker.
• 1:00:07
  And I feel like it's, so it is natural, like if you're going
• 1:00:09
  through a lot, if you're going through a transition, you know?
• 1:00:11
  Well, let's also keep in mind like I started these these
• 1:00:16
  labels like they, there was a long time in between releases.
• 1:00:19
  Like I made a lot of those songs or like started the Glitch
• 1:00:25
  Ideation when I was 17/16/17 and then those songs are getting
• 1:00:34
  released when I'm like 18/19/20 even.
• 1:00:39
  And now I'm 21. I I just turned 21 a couple
• 1:00:43
  weeks ago. Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  Happy birthday. Thank you.
• 1:00:45
  Victor Leo too. Oh yes, love Leos, but it just
• 1:00:51
  reached a point where I wanted to embrace like a more adult
• 1:00:59
  approach and like push my artistry to the limits.
• 1:01:03
  So that's what I tried to do with that video and it was
• 1:01:07
  really fun to yeah, style and like creative direct and put
• 1:01:13
  together all the art direction on the mood board side like I
• 1:01:16
  usually do. There are obviously so many
• 1:01:18
  amazing creatives like you who helped me bring that to life, so
• 1:01:21
  I always credit where credit is due.
• 1:01:23
  Shout out Jordy, shout out L8 American Crispy.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah. I feel like with that video too,
• 1:01:31
  like moving into muddy like the next visual, like it still stays
• 1:01:34
  in that realm and world. Yeah, I think it stays in the
• 1:01:37
  Roman world, but every video is going to be better than the
• 1:01:40
  next. Muddy is a better music video on
• 1:01:42
  the move with me. Oh my God, I love that.
• 1:01:44
  I love that you have that intention.
• 1:01:45
  That's how I feel too. When I'm working.
• 1:01:47
  It's like everything needs. I tell my PA this all the time
• 1:01:49
  and like everything we do needs to elevate.
• 1:01:50
  Each time. Every single time.
• 1:01:52
  Otherwise, what are you doing? You're staying stagnant.
• 1:01:54
  Yes, artistically, I don't the numbers like that fluctuates,
• 1:01:58
  it'll go down, it'll stay the same, but numbers are just
• 1:02:00
  numbers like artistic. I mean, that's art, yeah.
• 1:02:03
  That's where like my heart is and that's why I play the social
• 1:02:06
  media games to the best of my abilities to like, you know,
• 1:02:10
  support my art. But at the end of the day, I, I
• 1:02:14
  am an artist. I'm not as much on the social
• 1:02:18
  media side as I like as someone might think.
• 1:02:22
  I feel like in the same age, the expectation to be like a
• 1:02:25
  creator, especially as an artist, it's like it's become
• 1:02:28
  synonymous with being an artist. It's like you have to make the
• 1:02:30
  Tik Toks, you have to do a little dance, you have to like
• 1:02:32
  play the game in order for your art to be seen.
• 1:02:34
  But I feel like it's it's it's a really crazy time for the music
• 1:02:39
  industry. Honestly.
• 1:02:40
  It's kind that's all new, too. Like the era of TikTok, you
• 1:02:43
  know? Like imagine imagine like Mozart
• 1:02:49
  promoting his music on TikTok. Like imagine these legendary
• 1:02:54
  like The Beatles. Imagine The Beatles on take.
• 1:02:56
  We're doing a little dance to The Beatles, to Yellow Submarine
• 1:02:59
  like. In two times speed like Hey Jude
• 1:03:03
  doing like like a TikTok dance bro that's just not going to
• 1:03:06
  happen. Like artists need time and space
• 1:03:10
  to be artists and make art and I I don't have that at the moment.
• 1:03:15
  I can't wait till the day I do. Absolutely right now.
• 1:03:18
  I'm just going to shut up and like keep going and I'll not to
• 1:03:21
  say I'll ever abandoned like social media or like any of the
• 1:03:24
  power puffs. I still very like much believe
• 1:03:26
  that that's important. It's just today's day and age.
• 1:03:32
  It's this day and age exactly, and you kind of just have to
• 1:03:34
  roll the punches and adapt to it too.
• 1:03:36
  Yes, exactly. Well Sophie, you and I have been
• 1:03:38
  getting along so well during the show.
• 1:03:40
  What do you think? I mean, I'm having a lot of fun.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah, OK, well, we actually have a little beef that we need to
• 1:03:46
  address. Yeah, I know.
• 1:03:48
  I hate, I hate a confrontation on the show, even though I do do
• 1:03:51
  it on every show. But we just got this article
• 1:03:53
  sent in this morning by the Delulu PR team.
• 1:03:56
  So this is from Delulu Daily. This is the TMZ version of This
• 1:04:03
  is the Dulu Cinematic Universe DCU version of TMZ.
• 1:04:07
  And can you read this article for us?
• 1:04:10
  And you? Squash.
• 1:04:11
  This but yes. Let's squash, Let's squash it.
• 1:04:13
  I just I read. One my head first before, yeah.
• 1:04:16
  What are your companies with for sure?
• 1:04:19
  No, honestly, I want to be surprised.
• 1:04:20
  OK, scared do you? Want me to read it from the top
• 1:04:23
  like this? OK Daily exclusive from Sophie
• 1:04:27
  to Ryan, the Band-Aid takeover that's splitting fans.
• 1:04:30
  Band-Aid wars are heating up in the pop world, and Ryan Liu and
• 1:04:34
  Sophie Powers are at the center of it.
• 1:04:36
  Fashion icon and pop juggernaut Sophie Powers, once known for
• 1:04:40
  her edgy Band-Aid on the nose signature look, has suddenly
• 1:04:44
  ditched the trend, only for Ryan Liu to swoop in and make it her
• 1:04:48
  own. Fans are flooding social media
• 1:04:51
  claiming Ryan pulls it off. Oh.
• 1:04:55
  My gosh, Brian just put on the Band-Aid better than Sophie ever
• 1:05:00
  did, sparking whispers that Ryan may have stolen the entire look.
• 1:05:04
  Even Lionel Richie weighed in, admitting I never got the
• 1:05:07
  Band-Aid thing, but after seeing it on Ryan, I'm on board.
• 1:05:10
  Industry insiders say this could be the ultimate passing of the
• 1:05:14
  torch or full blown fashion feud in the making.
• 1:05:19
  Brian, you have some explaining to do.
• 1:05:20
  Well, you said earlier in the show that you actually find it
• 1:05:23
  flattering when people copy you. Not you putting my own words
• 1:05:27
  against me. I would hate to date you can.
• 1:05:29
  We run that back, I realize that it's actually a form of honor.
• 1:05:34
  Wait, take that back right now. Right.
• 1:05:36
  I'm sorry I'm. Sorry, no, I'm a perfect
• 1:05:37
  girlfriend. For real, I am.
• 1:05:41
  Well, you're kind of rocking this.
• 1:05:45
  Thank you. Why don't we actually suck stuff
• 1:05:46
  too? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:48
  I mean, look, Pete, he has a little bit of beef with me, but.
• 1:05:54
  Really. Oh, so do you think he was just
• 1:05:56
  complimenting me out of spite to you?
• 1:05:57
  No, I'm wait. Oh, that's 'cause like, you're
• 1:06:01
  ugly, right? What?
• 1:06:03
  What 'cause I'm ugly? Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Oh no, that's not even true. Oh yeah, yeah, right, right.
• 1:06:08
  No, it's 'cause I'm ugly, right? Oh, 'cause you're ugly.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, yeah. Who said that?
• 1:06:12
  No, I was just like quoting you. Oh, I've never said that.
• 1:06:15
  But I said that about you. You said that about me.
• 1:06:19
  Who said what about me? So you were saying that you
• 1:06:22
  were? Saying what did you say about
• 1:06:23
  me? What did I say about you?
• 1:06:25
  Yeah. I didn't say anything about you.
• 1:06:27
  There's nothing to say. Yeah, I don't even think about
• 1:06:30
  you. I don't talk about you either.
• 1:06:31
  OK, yeah, No thought. No, no thoughts.
• 1:06:33
  Head empty. Head empty.
• 1:06:34
  No thoughts. Head empty, No thoughts.
• 1:06:35
  It's not no thoughts. Head empty.
• 1:06:37
  Well, that's that was mine. You kind of messed up.
• 1:06:39
  No, no, no. That was the point of the song.
• 1:06:40
  No, no, no. That was head empty.
• 1:06:41
  No thoughts. My thing you have a separate
• 1:06:44
  thing I guess. No, I I literally have a song
• 1:06:46
  called Head Empty. No thoughts.
• 1:06:47
  Oh. Really.
• 1:06:47
  I haven't heard it. Oh yeah, because your head is so
• 1:06:51
  empty, no thoughts that you just don't listen to anything.
• 1:06:53
  You know what, Sophie? This is?
• 1:06:55
  This is getting messy. One might say it's getting
• 1:06:58
  muddy. Oh, that was good.
• 1:07:01
  That was good. You got me.
• 1:07:02
  That was good. I'm just joking around with you,
• 1:07:04
  by the way. I fucking love you, right?
• 1:07:05
  Oh my God, I love you. Well, thank you for letting me
• 1:07:08
  have the Band-Aid. How do I look studio?
• 1:07:11
  It looks so cute. You actually.
• 1:07:13
  Do a good? Can I have the?
• 1:07:14
  Mirror, you are not ugly, by the way, you're actually killing
• 1:07:17
  this look. I'm kind of annoyed because it
• 1:07:20
  takes me so long to get the Band-Aid on in the center and
• 1:07:23
  you're just like Boop and I. Literally had to improve.
• 1:07:25
  Oh, I kind of ate that. It looks great.
• 1:07:27
  You don't have. You don't have a mirror either.
• 1:07:29
  I didn't and I had to do it while you're talking and I'm not
• 1:07:31
  a good multitasker. Thank you so much.
• 1:07:33
  That was really good. Thank you so much.
• 1:07:35
  Well honestly, even if you did say I was ugly, I wouldn't even
• 1:07:37
  believe you. Like.
• 1:07:40
  I'm doing like the little hand thing.
• 1:07:42
  I mean, I think I'm really pretty personally, so.
• 1:07:44
  Yes, you are. And that hair is also, by the
• 1:07:46
  way, I haven't complimented it this whole time, it looks.
• 1:07:48
  I actually had your hair color for the shoot for the Google
• 1:07:51
  after dark. Really.
• 1:07:53
  Yeah, it's actually the grayest, faded a little bit 'cause I've
• 1:07:55
  been shooting so much and I ran through like the mud marathon.
• 1:07:59
  So I like showered for literally 3 hours after that I.
• 1:08:02
  Was Oh my God it looks good. I love how muted it is.
• 1:08:04
  Thank you. It's it's normally more Gray.
• 1:08:06
  I think it's like silver right now, but.
• 1:08:08
  I know, I love that. Thank you.
• 1:08:10
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:08:10
  So you're over the Band-Aid era? Yes, that's pixel girl.
• 1:08:13
  Now I'll let her have it, you know?
• 1:08:15
  Pixel girl, right? She'll take the she'll take the
• 1:08:17
  WI already took the L live in front of millions to see, so
• 1:08:21
  there's really nothing else to talk about.
• 1:08:23
  OK, well, let's get into the beef of Lionel Richie.
• 1:08:26
  There's actually no beef. I was just kidding around.
• 1:08:29
  He. You're JKI.
• 1:08:30
  Actually think I liked him. You know, he's there was a lot
• 1:08:34
  they cut out of that show. There was like 30 minutes more
• 1:08:36
  of on air. So you.
• 1:08:37
  Don't see you're on American Idol and you have such an iconic
• 1:08:41
  audition for it. When I watched it because
• 1:08:42
  everyone talked about it like when I was doing research on you
• 1:08:44
  and I was like, let me get to that one last because it's like
• 1:08:46
  2 minutes on YouTube. When I got to it, I was like, Oh
• 1:08:49
  my God, you ate. That was a performance.
• 1:08:52
  Oh, thank you. Like the I don't know how you
• 1:08:53
  didn't crack. I really just that's just me.
• 1:08:57
  Like people are asking me that all the time.
• 1:08:59
  It's that's my everyday. I Yeah, literally.
• 1:09:02
  I've had so much rehearsal growing up with younger, triple
• 1:09:05
  younger siblings too. Yeah, like, oh, the evil pranks
• 1:09:10
  that used to play at my younger siblings.
• 1:09:12
  Oh no, not the war flashbacks. War flashbacks is crazy.
• 1:09:16
  I mean, I saw it in your eyes. You were gone.
• 1:09:18
  Oh, yeah, It took me to another place.
• 1:09:19
  No. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:09:20
  Yeah. It was funny, actually.
• 1:09:23
  Obviously it was some sort of performance because it was.
• 1:09:29
  Can I tell you on a personal level, I totally agree that
• 1:09:34
  babies should shut the fuck up. Don't even get me started with
• 1:09:39
  the babies. One look I the worst is being on
• 1:09:42
  an airplane and they even have the soother too.
• 1:09:46
  They have the thing and they don't put it in their kids mouth
• 1:09:49
  and they just let it. What are you doing?
• 1:09:54
  What is the point of even buying that item?
• 1:09:56
  Absolutely. Like at that point, I might as
• 1:09:58
  well just have it. But look, I do.
• 1:10:00
  I actually do love babysitting, which is a weird thing.
• 1:10:03
  I love little kids. I don't think I'll ever have
• 1:10:06
  kids. Will you babysit my kids?
• 1:10:08
  Yes, I would love to, obviously. Lil Sophie junior.
• 1:10:12
  You're naming your kid after. Me, absolutely.
• 1:10:13
  After this show, yes. Oh my God.
• 1:10:15
  Yes, Little powers junior. Little powers, Junior, that's
• 1:10:19
  adorable. But like, actually don't do
• 1:10:20
  that. My point in not you.
• 1:10:23
  Wouldn't be you wouldn't be the godparent.
• 1:10:26
  Will you be the godparent I? Would be like the drunk aunt.
• 1:10:29
  I would not be the godparent. I don't drink but like in
• 1:10:32
  spirit. OK, fair, you could babysit my
• 1:10:37
  kids. Yes, I would.
• 1:10:38
  I'm actually a really good babysitter because I was the
• 1:10:41
  oldest like growing up, basically like in my household,
• 1:10:44
  the oldest growing up. How did you do this?
• 1:10:45
  This is bothering me so much. You can take it off if you want
• 1:10:48
  the band. Aid look cute.
• 1:10:50
  You do look cute. I wanted to get a Hello Kitty
• 1:10:52
  Band-Aid but they were like harder to find than.
• 1:10:54
  I Oh, I have so many of them. I.
• 1:10:56
  Should have asked. I give you 1.
• 1:10:57
  I have Gloomy bear ones. Actually designed a clothing
• 1:10:59
  collection for Gloomy Bear and ACDC.
• 1:11:01
  Yes, I want to talk about that. So that just that collection was
• 1:11:05
  so bright and bubbly and very much so of your glitch era and
• 1:11:09
  you're moving into a more muted era.
• 1:11:11
  Your fashions were muted, even showing up to the set right now,
• 1:11:14
  you know not. More grace honestly, it's more
• 1:11:17
  just like edgy and gritty than like music and then then muted
• 1:11:24
  because I still want to bring something.
• 1:11:26
  I don't want it to just be like all monotone and like.
• 1:11:28
  Totally. It is very Edward.
• 1:11:30
  I love this. I want to borrow this after.
• 1:11:32
  You Oh, this is so whatever. I just threw this on this in my
• 1:11:35
  closet. I didn't have the budget for
• 1:11:37
  stylist today. OK, Otherwise I would have been
• 1:11:38
  like fitted up. Thank you for the transparency.
• 1:11:41
  You didn't think Delulu deserved a stylist?
• 1:11:43
  I I'm like, we were just talking about being indie and all.
• 1:11:48
  Totally, totally, totally, totally OK.
• 1:11:50
  Please buy the Sophie Powers merge and we're streaming so we
• 1:11:54
  can get fitted for the next show.
• 1:11:56
  Yes, please. Yes.
• 1:11:58
  I actually just dropped vinyls also for my song Adam, Do you
• 1:12:01
  know Thoughts and move with me? Speaking of move with me.
• 1:12:04
  OK everyone, we're copying the vinyls.
• 1:12:06
  Yes, I'm actually so excited about that.
• 1:12:07
  My God. I'm excited.
• 1:12:08
  I'm literally gonna buy one right after this.
• 1:12:10
  Really. Dead ass.
• 1:12:11
  Thank you where are they? 7 inch yes my God I love 7 inch
• 1:12:14
  vinyls yes I'm getting. Yeah, they're just an A side B
• 1:12:16
  side 7 inch. So what about for Muddy and
• 1:12:19
  their future releases? For Muddy and future releases.
• 1:12:21
  For Muddy I do have merch going up and for future releases dude
• 1:12:27
  I already have my next EP that's coming out next year, Merge
• 1:12:30
  Design so. Damn, you're ahead.
• 1:12:32
  Yeah. Oh my gosh, I need to get on
• 1:12:34
  your level. I'm like, so behind.
• 1:12:35
  I'm still going through all my shoots I've been doing and I'm
• 1:12:37
  like trying to figure out like how I want to place them.
• 1:12:39
  I think everything I do deserves a life.
• 1:12:40
  So like, I I just hate dropping. Like I don't just want to drop
• 1:12:43
  something. Yeah, I have a hard time with it
• 1:12:45
  too because I want to sell my cotton sew designs and I can't
• 1:12:49
  wait till the day that I can have my own clothing collection.
• 1:12:52
  Just everything. Everything.
• 1:12:54
  'S happening. How I want it to be, like you
• 1:12:56
  said, how you wanted your own label.
• 1:12:58
  That's how I feel about fashion. I love that.
• 1:13:01
  So would you do like when it comes to like if you were to
• 1:13:04
  release your designs, your fashion, would you say it's more
• 1:13:08
  in the world where we are right now with Move With Me and Muddy?
• 1:13:15
  It really just depends when I release it and where I'm at at
• 1:13:18
  that point in time, because I do a lot of cosplaying, which is
• 1:13:22
  also bright colors and I love designing like superhero cartoon
• 1:13:25
  character like Scott Pilgrim, the esque video game.
• 1:13:30
  I I I really reference like Resident Evil Mortal Kombat or
• 1:13:35
  like a lot of like punk skillet, like old, old video games.
• 1:13:41
  So I don't want to completely ditch color because that would
• 1:13:45
  just be boring. But I think for different
• 1:13:47
  collections, you know I was. Going to say you should do like
• 1:13:49
  little drops. Yes, yes, exactly, depending on
• 1:13:52
  the song. Wait, I love that.
• 1:13:53
  OK, well, we have some questions that were submitted by some
• 1:13:56
  besties. I know we said that you don't
• 1:13:59
  think you give good advice, but let's see what the vice comes
• 1:14:01
  out of this so. Advice from Sovie Powers I.
• 1:14:04
  Will take I will take all your advice honestly.
• 1:14:07
  Person. OK, this is WWAGD.
• 1:14:10
  This is what would a delulu girl do?
• 1:14:12
  So these are questions that some bestie Lulu's have submitted and
• 1:14:15
  they want to know what we would do.
• 1:14:16
  Are you ready? Yes.
• 1:14:18
  OK, so first one. OK, No, you're going to be
• 1:14:20
  great. OK, we'll see.
• 1:14:23
  Do you think it's possible to be friends with an ex?
• 1:14:26
  He has a new boyfriend and everything?
• 1:14:28
  No. No, I hate all my exes.
• 1:14:30
  I hope they die now. Just kidding, don't hold
• 1:14:34
  resentments toward anyone. A good positive energy.
• 1:14:38
  Love them. Wait, we're so the same.
• 1:14:40
  Yeah, I'm the same. I'm like, yeah, you should
• 1:14:41
  suffer. Yeah.
• 1:14:42
  Loki I don't even have bad exes actually.
• 1:14:45
  Like I don't hope they die in hell.
• 1:14:47
  That's a little bit of a lie. The more I think about it.
• 1:14:49
  They're not a bad they're none of them are bad people.
• 1:14:53
  I just can't be friends with them because I feel emotions so
• 1:14:58
  intensely. Right.
• 1:14:59
  It just I can't like flip the switch into friend mode.
• 1:15:02
  I can't do it. Oh my God.
• 1:15:03
  Literally. I can't do it, it's too hard for
• 1:15:06
  me and so I actually don't wish them the worst, but I don't want
• 1:15:11
  them in my life essentially. That is so fair.
• 1:15:15
  Really. Yes.
• 1:15:17
  Oh see, I do give good advice actually.
• 1:15:19
  No, I think that is so fair. Like if you feel type of way
• 1:15:22
  about someone and it's like too much for you, like yeah.
• 1:15:25
  Also, it doesn't have to mean that you guys can't still be
• 1:15:28
  friendly, it's just you don't have to be friends.
• 1:15:32
  There's a difference. OK, I like that, but that was
• 1:15:35
  good advice. I'm like shook if.
• 1:15:38
  Oh yeah. No, that was good.
• 1:15:40
  I really like that. See, I told you I'm good at
• 1:15:42
  advice, but I'm bad at taking it.
• 1:15:43
  Do you? Think it's possible to be
• 1:15:44
  friends with an ex? Fuck it girl, do what you want.
• 1:15:48
  OK so here's another question. How do you handle people giving
• 1:15:52
  you unsolicited advice? For me, I fucking hate
• 1:15:55
  unsolicited advice. Like it bothers me so much.
• 1:15:59
  I like don't handle it I just crash out.
• 1:16:02
  Honestly I just like get into beef with them giving me advice
• 1:16:06
  for I didn't even ask. If I didn't ask.
• 1:16:08
  Did I ask? When did I ask?
• 1:16:11
  I never asked. I'm like, bitch, I think I know
• 1:16:12
  what I'm doing. Like what?
• 1:16:14
  Also though like they look to be right most of the time.
• 1:16:19
  I don't know who's giving you advice.
• 1:16:20
  I don't think I'm getting right advice, OK, from you.
• 1:16:23
  I'm getting right advice from you.
• 1:16:25
  Yeah, but I'm like, really stubborn about things too.
• 1:16:27
  So if I be feeling, you know what I mean away.
• 1:16:30
  It's like like like if someone gives me advice and I didn't ask
• 1:16:34
  for it, that makes me mad. And then I just forget about it.
• 1:16:39
  And then I realized they were right and then I asked them for
• 1:16:42
  advice. That's normally the pattern.
• 1:16:44
  OK, that's fair. That's big on you.
• 1:16:46
  Yeah, I don't think I don't like admitting when I'm wrong.
• 1:16:48
  You don't like admitting when you're wrong.
• 1:16:49
  Who does? I don't.
• 1:16:51
  I don't think I'm wrong. To be honest.
• 1:16:52
  I think I'm very very rarely wrong.
• 1:16:54
  Ever. Ever When have I ever been
• 1:16:57
  wrong? Team Go, When have I ever been
• 1:16:59
  wrong? You're wrong for that.
• 1:17:00
  No, I'm right for this. When have I ever been wrong?
• 1:17:04
  Remember I didn't pay this weekend.
• 1:17:06
  They're. Scared of Ryan?
• 1:17:09
  I think a good team should fear you a little bit.
• 1:17:11
  I'm just kidding. No, like a little bit.
• 1:17:14
  Oh, Tristan, are we scared of? Are we scared of Sophie?
• 1:17:16
  No, no. She says with fear in her eyes.
• 1:17:22
  I actually like seriously, that's my worst nightmare is for
• 1:17:25
  someone to be scared of me as like, like, so you're, I respect
• 1:17:29
  you for that because I get, I still care about like what the
• 1:17:35
  people I'm working with because those people are like, I'm
• 1:17:38
  asking them to do so much if I'm not treating them with like
• 1:17:42
  dignity, dignity and respect. Like obviously if they're not
• 1:17:45
  doing their job, like. Go off on their ass.
• 1:17:47
  Totally, I agree with you. But like, I really do believe in
• 1:17:51
  like equal respect, like I'm not, they're not working for me,
• 1:17:55
  they're working with me. I love that you said that.
• 1:17:56
  I literally verbatim, I'm no funny shit right now.
• 1:17:59
  Like that is literally what I say all the time.
• 1:18:01
  That's why I say to Brett. That's why I say to Amina,
• 1:18:02
  because I'm like, This Is Us. We're doing this together.
• 1:18:04
  I'm not trying to be overpowering you.
• 1:18:07
  I'm not trying to duh or whatever.
• 1:18:08
  So I love that you said that we're super similar by the.
• 1:18:12
  Way I know we really are. We're very similar.
• 1:18:14
  Freaking me out. This is why I have a lot of
• 1:18:15
  Virgo friends. Shit, I don't know.
• 1:18:17
  I'm not that into astrology though to the moment where I'm
• 1:18:20
  like oh. Well, maybe you're getting into
• 1:18:21
  it now. I won't like be this friend or
• 1:18:23
  whatever, actually, I just like to ask.
• 1:18:26
  But it's more the Myers Briggs that I believe in.
• 1:18:28
  Really. OK.
• 1:18:29
  But I actually, I don't know, I dabble in astrological.
• 1:18:33
  Shit, I feel like I don't know that many Leos.
• 1:18:35
  I know you. I know Victoria.
• 1:18:37
  Those are my Leos. I mean, oh, Grant.
• 1:18:39
  Grant Kanoki's Leo. Yes, yes, August.
• 1:18:42
  Yes, August 23rd. Wait, no, he's on the cusp.
• 1:18:45
  He is on the cusp. It ends on August 22nd.
• 1:18:47
  But he considers himself a Leo. I don't think he is though.
• 1:18:51
  Oh, we got a debate that with him.
• 1:18:54
  Okay, Grant, let's let's debate it next time, yeah?
• 1:18:56
  Grant, we're going. To podcast.
• 1:18:58
  We'll have him. We'll have him on.
• 1:18:59
  He was sitting there where you're sitting and he said he's
• 1:19:01
  a Leah. I might be wrong though.
• 1:19:03
  It also depends like when or where he's born.
• 1:19:05
  That's big on you to admit that, because honestly, if I I would
• 1:19:08
  stand on whatever I say. I'm not standing on business for
• 1:19:11
  that. I'm not an astrological girl.
• 1:19:12
  OK, fair. Fair.
• 1:19:13
  Fair. Fair, fair.
• 1:19:14
  Fair. Big on you too.
• 1:19:15
  OK, this is our last one. My roommates keep fighting with
• 1:19:18
  each other and they're complaining about each other.
• 1:19:20
  To me. I don't want to take sides, but
• 1:19:22
  one of them is definitely right and the other is in the wrong.
• 1:19:27
  What do we think? Ease I would decide who of like
• 1:19:31
  with whoever my home girl is honestly right or wrong.
• 1:19:33
  It really depends on the argument.
• 1:19:35
  I would just ignore it until the point where it's actually
• 1:19:36
  bothering me. Bothering you.
• 1:19:38
  Like like you guys can fight all you want.
• 1:19:41
  Like I'll stay out of it. I'll respect it.
• 1:19:43
  I'm really a loyal person. Me too.
• 1:19:46
  So if one of them was like, I'm not going to be your friend
• 1:19:49
  unless you do this, then like, or unless you like pick a side,
• 1:19:54
  then like obviously I'd be forced to.
• 1:19:56
  No, I would be like, then you're dropped.
• 1:19:58
  What do you mean you're not going to be my friend?
• 1:19:59
  That's crazy. That's actually crazy, Daisy.
• 1:20:02
  Yeah, but then you'd still be forced to be involved is what I
• 1:20:05
  meant. OK, fair.
• 1:20:06
  Rather than like pick a side, I meant obviously I'd be forced to
• 1:20:09
  like, not ignore it. Yes.
• 1:20:10
  I don't know what to pick a side.
• 1:20:12
  I don't even know then if that if at that point I would pick a
• 1:20:15
  side because why are you asking me to choose between you and my
• 1:20:19
  other friends? Unless they did something
• 1:20:20
  completely wrong. But my advice to this person
• 1:20:23
  would be ignore it as long as you can, stay out of it as long
• 1:20:27
  as you can. If it doesn't blow over and
• 1:20:30
  things don't get better then I would play mediator rather than
• 1:20:35
  pick a side and get involved because that's just that's not
• 1:20:38
  your. Policy you're actually so much
• 1:20:39
  better than me because then I feel like for me heart take.
• 1:20:42
  I think this. I think if I love you and loyal
• 1:20:46
  to you, you're never wrong to me.
• 1:20:48
  You could be wrong, but you're right to me.
• 1:20:50
  And that's kind of where I come from, and maybe I'm wrong for
• 1:20:52
  that. No, stand, stand by your
• 1:20:55
  friends. I just, I think I'm very loyal,
• 1:20:59
  but like if my friend does something that wrong, I'm not
• 1:21:03
  going to be like, I don't care if she's right.
• 1:21:05
  I'm going to be like, dude, like what are you doing?
• 1:21:07
  Like, you know, I'm, I'm always going to like, keep it real.
• 1:21:10
  OK. I think that's, again, we're so
• 1:21:13
  similar. You're like slightly better than
• 1:21:15
  me to be honest. Yes, you are.
• 1:21:17
  I'm not. I'm not you.
• 1:21:18
  Are my role model Sophie Powers? Oh gosh, oh gosh, you're my role
• 1:21:23
  model. You're my role model, Ryan.
• 1:21:25
  I don't know. I don't know if that's a.
• 1:21:27
  You are now you are. OK.
• 1:21:30
  Wait. You're like my Galinda can.
• 1:21:31
  I ask you something, I'm like the wicked witch.
• 1:21:33
  No, I'd rather be alphabet to be honest.
• 1:21:35
  Oh really? Should we swap?
• 1:21:37
  Hell yeah, let's swap. I mean, yeah, I identify more of
• 1:21:41
  her, I think. OK, OK.
• 1:21:43
  What do you think? I was just going to say
• 1:21:45
  something like super out of pocket.
• 1:21:47
  Oh my God, say it. I'm scared.
• 1:21:48
  Say it. No, I was just going to be like,
• 1:21:50
  are you a swap? But then I was going to so let's
• 1:21:53
  skip that on though. But yes, I I actually do feel
• 1:21:57
  like I hit both ends of the spectrum.
• 1:22:00
  So if you want to be I just feel like I.
• 1:22:03
  Relate to her like she's like villainized witch, Yeah.
• 1:22:07
  Yeah, I think so. You know Wicked 2's coming out
• 1:22:10
  soon, isn't it? Oh well, they didn't run a check
• 1:22:13
  for the show, so I don't know what's coming out soon.
• 1:22:16
  Oh yeah, no free endorsements next holler.
• 1:22:20
  I don't know what's coming out soon, I fear.
• 1:22:22
  OK, wait. Quick question for you.
• 1:22:23
  Do you think I'd be a good girlfriend?
• 1:22:27
  To me. To in general.
• 1:22:29
  In general, absolutely not. I think you'll probably be like
• 1:22:33
  one of the worst boyfriends girlfriends.
• 1:22:36
  Cut the cameras right now, everyone get out of the studio.
• 1:22:42
  I feel like no, you know, I'm just joking with.
• 1:22:45
  You. Yeah, totally joking.
• 1:22:45
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:22:49
  So Long story short, I think you here let me explain myself.
• 1:22:53
  Let me explain myself, OK, I think.
• 1:22:55
  I'm a good girlfriend, so I'll hear you out.
• 1:22:58
  OK sweetie, I think that you would put your heart and soul
• 1:23:03
  into someone to the point where it could be detrimental to your
• 1:23:10
  relationship because you might give someone more than what they
• 1:23:13
  give you. And if I'm correct on this, and
• 1:23:18
  please tell me if I'm wrong because I don't mean to
• 1:23:20
  psychoanalyze you, but I am. I'm so scared I'm literally
• 1:23:23
  shaking. I'm shaking my boots.
• 1:23:25
  Because I think that also you are someone who will take
• 1:23:30
  authority if the other person is not.
• 1:23:32
  And then you end up probably doing a lot of the planning and
• 1:23:35
  a lot of the figuring things out when it feels like the other
• 1:23:38
  person lets you steer the ship. And that may be frustrating to
• 1:23:43
  you because you want a balance of someone like figuring things
• 1:23:46
  out for you, but also like not to the point where they not to
• 1:23:50
  the point where you don't have control over anything.
• 1:23:52
  Is that so far off? Sorry there was a tangent, but.
• 1:23:58
  You were not welcome here at the Lulu.
• 1:24:00
  Was I right? I think you probably are.
• 1:24:04
  With like, am I completely wrong?
• 1:24:06
  No, I'm trying. To get to know you.
• 1:24:07
  I think you're honestly right. Like honestly, I do give so
• 1:24:09
  much. Into like you seem like you
• 1:24:12
  would give a relationship. Like if you're in a
• 1:24:14
  relationship, you're in that like with that person.
• 1:24:18
  And I feel the same way. That's why I don't get into
• 1:24:21
  relationships if I'm not like able to do that.
• 1:24:24
  Even if I do really like the person, if I can't give them my
• 1:24:29
  all my time and like be with them for them their ride or die,
• 1:24:33
  I'm just I can't. I can't waste their time, you
• 1:24:37
  know? Yeah, well, no, it's actually I
• 1:24:41
  wrote that like with Cam shout out Cam Hunter.
• 1:24:46
  He knew that I'd just gotten into a relationship and was
• 1:24:49
  like, and Mike actually like already had that be the producer
• 1:24:53
  and like we just did it. It actually ended up getting
• 1:24:56
  into an Apple commercial after, which is so crazy.
• 1:24:59
  But because it's funny because it's about like my first long
• 1:25:02
  term relationship that I've gone into in like a minute that I'm
• 1:25:05
  still in right now. And Spencer is my boyfriend.
• 1:25:11
  Shout out Spencer. Shout out Spencer.
• 1:25:12
  What's up? Do you think he's watching?
• 1:25:15
  No, but he probably will if I send it to him.
• 1:25:18
  What? Oh, send it to.
• 1:25:20
  Him he's kind of like busy because he also does live
• 1:25:24
  streaming for like TikTok shop posting.
• 1:25:25
  Oh cool. Yeah, totally.
• 1:25:27
  But. It's a full time thing.
• 1:25:29
  Yeah, no, it's it's really intense, but it is.
• 1:25:32
  I'll send it to you. I'm sure he would love it until
• 1:25:34
  it's ready to check it out. OK, yay Spencer.
• 1:25:35
  Do you think I'd be a good girlfriend?
• 1:25:38
  Spencer does think you'd be a good girlfriend.
• 1:25:40
  And by the way, I do think you'd be a good girlfriend.
• 1:25:43
  I was just playing with you because like I said, you seem
• 1:25:46
  like you put your all into someone and give them all like
• 1:25:50
  as much of your time because you're a busy person and that
• 1:25:54
  that can sometimes backfire on you.
• 1:25:55
  Did I clock you? Clocked, clocked, gagged.
• 1:25:58
  You're shit. I love it.
• 1:26:00
  I love analyzing people. This is why I say I feel like
• 1:26:02
  I'm a grandmother stuck inside my body.
• 1:26:04
  I always used to get told when you were younger you're so wise
• 1:26:07
  beyond your years. I'm like bitch, I have no
• 1:26:09
  fucking friends because of the shit.
• 1:26:11
  Oh shit, you read me for filth. Well.
• 1:26:15
  OK, tell me. Yes.
• 1:26:17
  Do you think I'd be a good girlfriend?
• 1:26:18
  You're a great girlfriend. Oh wait, what?
• 1:26:20
  Why are you being nice to me though?
• 1:26:21
  No, because you are a great girlfriend.
• 1:26:23
  Is that sarcasm? No, because as a good girlfriend
• 1:26:25
  I have no problem giving praise words to.
• 1:26:29
  Thank you. I would accept it, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:33
  I'm so sketched out when people give me compliments.
• 1:26:36
  I really like making fun of your show.
• 1:26:38
  You were like gagged. No, you were.
• 1:26:39
  Every time I said something, you're like, and I was like,
• 1:26:41
  wait. No, I just like.
• 1:26:44
  Like drag you on the show. No, I'm just self critical like
• 1:26:47
  you said. Super self critical.
• 1:26:48
  And I also grew up ugly as book, so I never like got compliments.
• 1:26:52
  I feel like a lot of people who grow up and then all of a sudden
• 1:26:55
  glow up or like when they're older and then all of a sudden
• 1:26:57
  they're like receiving all this. Like what's the word for it?
• 1:27:01
  Praise, compliment, attention. It's the word pretty privilege.
• 1:27:05
  Yes. When all of a sudden, when when
• 1:27:07
  you like get some sort of access to that.
• 1:27:09
  I still don't even think I'm like the the American or
• 1:27:12
  whatever definition of it, But right the second you get any
• 1:27:15
  access to that, it's like, what? What do you mean?
• 1:27:17
  Like I'm still this like ugly kid inside.
• 1:27:19
  Like I mean it. Builds so much character.
• 1:27:21
  It's why you have a personality, you know?
• 1:27:24
  Thank you. Headgear, braces, Invisalign,
• 1:27:27
  little bit of lip filler, tiny bit of Botox in the forehead and
• 1:27:31
  skin care. Well, I need all that I'm I'm
• 1:27:35
  all God here, so. You're beautiful, your skin is
• 1:27:38
  insane. Wait, I just so.
• 1:27:40
  Do whatever you're doing. Thank you.
• 1:27:41
  I'm just let myself get stressed out over things and like sweat,
• 1:27:46
  I guess. Sam, that's where we are.
• 1:27:48
  But I'll always like be honest, like if I get something done
• 1:27:52
  like. I love that I also holding
• 1:27:54
  myself to that too. I have not done anything yet but
• 1:27:56
  the second I do y'all will be the first to know for sure.
• 1:27:59
  Clock him. Clock me, honestly.
• 1:28:02
  Well OK, this has been so fucking amazing.
• 1:28:04
  I feel bad because I told your team that I would only take an
• 1:28:07
  hour from you and we're definitely way past that.
• 1:28:09
  But I hope you're having a great time and I'm so sorry to Team
• 1:28:11
  Powers. I'm no, I'm fine.
• 1:28:13
  I'm actually sorry to everyone here because I feel like that
• 1:28:16
  was just so in doubt. They're having, they're having
• 1:28:19
  the best time, everyone so. Fun.
• 1:28:22
  Shut the fuck up, bitch. So fun.
• 1:28:26
  OK, well, are we having a good time, Victoria?
• 1:28:29
  Are we having a good? Time I did have a good time
• 1:28:31
  being to Lulu and it was nice like hearing about you and like
• 1:28:34
  how you view your show and you're artistic I'm.
• 1:28:36
  Still having you ask? No.
• 1:28:37
  One no one ever ask, really. Ever What I mean, to be honest,
• 1:28:41
  it's about the guest when they come on the show.
• 1:28:43
  So I'm not mad about that, but I'm really happy that you that
• 1:28:46
  you asked. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:28:47
  It also makes me, like, feel a little bit less awkward.
• 1:28:50
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:28:52
  Because then I'm not just sitting there like talking about
• 1:28:54
  myself. I feel like a little bit less of
• 1:28:56
  a narcissist. You know what, I do that to you
• 1:28:58
  when I'm doing interviews, I always ask about them because
• 1:29:00
  like kind of same ZS. It's I also know what it's like
• 1:29:03
  being an interviewer. Like I used to do that in high
• 1:29:06
  school where I'd like interview people a lot for courses because
• 1:29:09
  I was like the like class president or I just love public
• 1:29:13
  speaking. So it would always be asking
• 1:29:15
  people questions and talking. Yes.
• 1:29:18
  How's it feel equal? I love public speaking too.
• 1:29:19
  Me too. Oh my God, I feel like a lot of
• 1:29:21
  people hate it. No, I love attention.
• 1:29:24
  Yeah, me too, right. A lot of people also hate it
• 1:29:26
  though. Yeah.
• 1:29:27
  Oh, really? Yeah, No.
• 1:29:28
  Anything that will get me attention down, but I'm not a
• 1:29:30
  stage. Do you think that you're an
• 1:29:34
  attention whore? I'm a different kind of whore, I
• 1:29:37
  think. Like a validation whore, I
• 1:29:40
  guess. I like praise.
• 1:29:42
  I'm a slut for praise for sure. Oh, so you got a praise gang?
• 1:29:45
  Oh, is that what that is? So like, like you, you love to
• 1:29:49
  be. You know what?
• 1:29:50
  We're going to stop by going to. Someone's like Ryan.
• 1:29:52
  You're such a hard worker. I'm like, yeah, I'm.
• 1:29:55
  I'm ready to go. I'm good.
• 1:29:58
  Well, we close out every show by manifesting together.
• 1:30:00
  Sophie Powers, is there anything you want to speak into existence
• 1:30:03
  right now here on Delulu? There's so many things.
• 1:30:07
  Same. What are you manifesting?
• 1:30:10
  And then I'll go. Oh shit fuck, I'm not prepared.
• 1:30:12
  I know I should have been more prepared.
• 1:30:14
  I'm manifesting peace right now. I feel like I've been in such a
• 1:30:17
  chaotic era. Yes.
• 1:30:19
  So I'm manifesting peace and. I'm manifesting, I think triumph
• 1:30:32
  and success, which is really broad, but I just really want to
• 1:30:40
  finally, like, dude, I told you, I've been doing this since I was
• 1:30:43
  10 years old. I want to finally get
• 1:30:45
  recognition that I know I deserve.
• 1:30:47
  Oh. My God, you're getting
• 1:30:49
  recognized right here on delulu. Much love for you though.
• 1:30:52
  Thank you for having me. And not to say I'm not like
• 1:30:54
  getting any recognition, by the way, currently I have the power
• 1:30:58
  puffs and I love them and thank you, Power puffs, if you've
• 1:31:00
  listened all the way to this and to the Lulu's, the Delulu's for
• 1:31:04
  listening to this. But yeah, just it really I want
• 1:31:08
  to like build that community and get that recognition.
• 1:31:09
  So that to me is my definition of success like.
• 1:31:13
  Can I tell you I'm so fucking beyond thrilled and excited that
• 1:31:16
  you're on the show because to be honest, you're already doing so
• 1:31:18
  incredible for yourself. But I literally, I'm a prophet.
• 1:31:22
  I'm telling you right now, you're going to be so fucking
• 1:31:24
  massive and big that like when people are doing deep dives on
• 1:31:26
  you, they're going to find this episode and they're going to
• 1:31:29
  watch it. And then it's going to be like.
• 1:31:30
  And then they're going to watch the ending being like, I want to
• 1:31:33
  gain that. I'm going to win a Grammy saying
• 1:31:36
  that to this camera right here. Actually, I've already won in my
• 1:31:40
  head, but you. Already did.
• 1:31:41
  Can we do give us a Grammy acceptance speech right now?
• 1:31:44
  Go. You just won the Grammy.
• 1:31:45
  No, I would start crying. Cry No.
• 1:31:47
  Do you want mine? Don't you?
• 1:31:49
  To the Academy. Thank you to nobody, everybody
• 1:31:55
  in this music industry down to me.
• 1:31:56
  Fuck you. Fuck you.
• 1:31:57
  Fucking no. I'm just kidding.
• 1:31:58
  Shut the. Fuck up.
• 1:32:00
  No, I would actually like literally start crying.
• 1:32:02
  Just talk about my grandma like the whole.
• 1:32:05
  Grammy. Grammy, Grandma, Grammys for my
• 1:32:09
  Grammy. There you go.
• 1:32:11
  That's what I would do. Wait, I love that.
• 1:32:13
  OK, Well, it's really yours. I'm so excited for you.
• 1:32:14
  I'm so proud of you. And to watch you, like, do
• 1:32:16
  everything that you're about to do, everything that you're
• 1:32:18
  already doing, it's just so sickening.
• 1:32:20
  Like you have such a clear vision.
• 1:32:21
  Thank you. Yes, I have an entire storyline
• 1:32:24
  for this next album, but if you guys want to tune in to Muddy,
• 1:32:27
  I'm excited for you to see the music video too.
• 1:32:28
  Ryan, I know you're liking the teasers, so thank.
• 1:32:31
  You I'm loving the teasers. Thank you.
• 1:32:33
  Oh my God, especially just because like the entire concept
• 1:32:35
  of it and obviously muddy like it's I don't know how to say it.
• 1:32:39
  It's like going at low dirty route.
• 1:32:41
  But I also feel like you what you said, the juxtaposition of
• 1:32:43
  like it being like messy and then also it being like
• 1:32:46
  polished. It the whole song is literally
• 1:32:48
  just about embracing the mess and the chaotic chaos of who you
• 1:32:52
  are and people better accept that for you or not love it,
• 1:32:55
  Comfortable in your body, your sexuality, who you are, right,
• 1:32:58
  that's it claim. Received.
• 1:33:00
  Thank you for having me, seriously.
• 1:33:01
  Thank you so much for being. Here I have fun.
• 1:33:03
  This is the best. Please come back for the next
• 1:33:04
  season. Yes.
• 1:33:05
  When I would love to, I would love to.
• 1:33:07
  Wait, this was super fucking. Fun.
• 1:33:08
  Yes, I know. OK, wait, I love that.
• 1:33:10
  OK, well, thank you so much to the delulu besties for watching
• 1:33:14
  this episode. This was your healthy dose of
• 1:33:16
  delulu. So now you can go live your true
• 1:33:18
  Lulu. Sophie, thank you so much for
• 1:33:20
  being a guest. Where can all the delulus find
• 1:33:22
  you? It's just at Sophie powers with
• 1:33:25
  a 0 for the powers on everything.
• 1:33:28
  Yeah, and we're streaming Muddy and we're streaming all the new
• 1:33:31
  releases and everything that's coming out soon.
• 1:33:33
  Yes, except actually I should mention my actual like regular
• 1:33:36
  artist name for music is just powers POW.
• 1:33:38
  But like on social media. For social media it's P0 and for
• 1:33:43
  music it's POWERS. So Sophie Powers.
• 1:33:46
  And we're streaming and we're so excited.
• 1:33:48
  And she's also performing at Warp Tour in November.
• 1:33:50
  Oh shit I forgot about that. Yes I am doing that though.
• 1:33:54
  So come see Sophie I. See you power puffs there.
• 1:33:57
  I'm excited. I am excited.
• 1:33:58
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• 1:34:10
  Six stars. Six stars?
• 1:34:12
  What would be for the besties if they rated five stars?
• 1:34:14
  If they rated five stars, yes, we'll do another episode.
• 1:34:18
  Hell yeah. OK, rate the show 5 stars right
• 1:34:20
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• 1:34:22
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• 1:34:32
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• 1:34:36
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