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- 0:07Today, let's take a look at web three and also what it's going to
- 0:10do in terms of the music industry. Who's going to win. We'll break
- 0:14it all down for you. My name is Pelber. Welcome back in a
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- 0:46Audience in the news with some pretty big issues right here. One of
- 0:50course, is they've established licensing agreements with all the performing rights organizations, which
- 0:55are pros and you can kind of see right there ASCAP, BMI, CSACK,
- 1:00et cetera. Basically, this is kind of like the Union of Creators
- 1:03If you're a musician, you're a part of this. This is how licensing
- 1:06gets basically distributed around different types of platforms. Some of the things that they're
- 1:11getting into when you look at just the idea of what these pros do,
- 1:18is they get into the whole idea of where you know, when you go
- 1:21to a restaurant or something, you're listening to music that's a performance, right,
- 1:25music play, So there's licensing fees that are done that way, and
- 1:29then there's other rights out there, so digital et cetera. This is where
- 1:33pro comes in and this is a big partnership with audience. And of course
- 1:37this means and could mean that audience could be starting to get a very good
- 1:42position in terms of the creator community, because that's been one of the things
- 1:45I think in terms of adoption that is one of the biggest components that we
- 1:49need to move into Web three. One of the companies out there though that
- 1:53currently does this is a company called Ditto. Now Ditto is one of those
- 1:59that's kind of a I think it's I don't know if it's a love hate.
- 2:01I think it's just a hate hate from the idea of creators because they
- 2:05are essentially the gateway into music publishing, so they manage your payments all those
- 2:10kind of things. And there's a lot of artists out there who have been
- 2:13very negative on where Ditto is coming from. I want to play a clip
- 2:16for you guys, because this we'll get into a little bit more about Ditto
- 2:20and the problems they have. Take a look. I have been getting tons
- 2:24and tons of comments about a particular issue that artists are having when using Ditto
- 2:31Music as a music distribution company. All right, all revolves around one thing,
- 2:38and that one thing is the payoffs. For some reason, so many
- 2:43artists are having issues getting their money from Ditto when it's time for them to
- 2:47collect their money for their streams. All right with me, I'm not one
- 2:52of those people that I have to experience something for myself in order to not
- 2:58want to partake in it. I don't need to get on a one to
- 3:00one fight with the bear to realize that it's dangerous to be in front of
- 3:05a bear. You know what I'm saying. If I got one comment about
- 3:07somebody having an issue with the payout, you know, I'll say, you
- 3:10know, that's probably the isolated situation. Now. If I hear fifty I
- 3:15might wait a minute, there's something going on with ditto. All right.
- 3:20So the point is is that artists today really have no affinity to the current
- 3:24layers or the current rails of music distribution. You can kind of see the
- 3:29distaste here in terms of payout speed all that. Well, audience has kind
- 3:32of already started to address this. Live streaming payments is out now, and
- 3:38this I think will start to make its way into some key artists, probably
- 3:44mid level, but eventually I think we'll see this in mainline artists, some
- 3:47of the top tier music creators that we'll start to see, you know,
- 3:52streaming payments. And I think this is an opportunity for Web three and what
- 3:55it means kind of going to the next level. The other thing that we'll
- 3:59cont you see is the distribution models that are going to happen. Remember that
- 4:02right now there's a lot of gatekeepers for distribution. This is the thing that
- 4:06Web three kind of solves, well does solve in a very big way.
- 4:11The e or the question here, of course, is going to be the
- 4:13pick up in terms of how we see artists actually joining into these kind of
- 4:17communities. And of course one of the things that we'll do that is what's
- 4:20happening already right now on X where Blinks is now allowing you to do.
- 4:27If you guys understand anything about Farcaster and warpcast, you'll understand that you kind
- 4:30of have these little components where you can actually do frames inside of a social
- 4:34media post to engage your audience, and that could be music, sales,
- 4:39all sorts of things. This is a good example of just buying with on
- 4:42Soul, with Jupiter, there's Mad Lads examples on that with NFTs obviously we
- 4:47see things around Helium. This will be the key here I think going forward
- 4:53is we start to see more integration into traditional social platforms that integrate into blockchain
- 4:58components and being able to execit on these and that's where music could be going
- 5:01in the future of actually seeing this framed in both on things like x but
- 5:06other social media platforms out there. I want to go to another clip real
- 5:10quick, and this one gets into a little bit more around how Audious is
- 5:14working with creators and the accumulation of different content within a piece. Take a
- 5:20look. Myself and my record label by this teamed up with Audious to celebrate
- 5:26our last release by my homie Albert Braker All you have to do to enter
- 5:30is go to Audious Creative free account. You buy Albert stems. They're very
- 5:34cheap. But all of that money from all the producers that buy the stems
- 5:40to enter the remix contest gets put into a pot and whoever wins gets every
- 5:46single dollar that was entered into the pot withdrew some cash from the ATM.
- 5:51But this is actually not for me. I'm going to put up a bunch
- 5:55of beats on my Audious page. Least one of the beats you have one
- 5:59mind to rap or sing and submit it on Audius, and then I'm going
- 6:03to pick my favorite one and I'm going to pay your rent. So great
- 6:09marketing. I think this Wigore you know, of course gets into the idea
- 6:13of music proliferation out there and also kind of the extension of a brand,
- 6:18whether it's a stem. We look at this from a marketing standpoint, it
- 6:23really could create some pretty significant distribution opportunities, especially in social doing these kind
- 6:28of campaigns. So that again using Audius another way for it to really kind
- 6:31of move into the web three component of how music distribution is going to be
- 6:35done. So Audius is really going to be I think at the center of
- 6:39where Web three is going. Now, Ditto could kind of go in this
- 6:42direction, but I'll explain a few things. Let's go with this first clip.
- 6:46So, now, this is what happened to me. Okay, So
- 6:48I actually was releasing my debut album. Okay, So bear in mind this
- 6:54is very important to me obviously as an artist. This is this is my
- 6:57debut solo album. You know, I really care about five and a half
- 7:00weeks in advance. I applauded, you know, my music to detos too,
- 7:06and you know, obviously in hope that I would be able to pitch
- 7:11to those Spotify editorial playlists. And then nothing was happening, you know,
- 7:15effectively my album was kind of sitting in, as they call in review.
- 7:19But in order to have this account for artists, you need to be like
- 7:24an approved artist. First, I started writing to detO. Firstly, I
- 7:30started sending emails. I started raising tickets, and I've had various issues with
- 7:34that, but I had like completely no response, no reply, no acknowledgment
- 7:38from detO. I don't think that's right personally, because this is not a
- 7:43free service. You know, I'll pay for this. I'm now considering,
- 7:46you know, changing a distributor. You know, I just need to know
- 7:49who's actually good, so you can kind of see it the writings on the
- 7:55wall. I think in terms of real creators starting to find new communities,
- 7:59major artists are still probably going to stay out there, but at some point
- 8:03we're going to see a tipping of the scales with new artists going onto these
- 8:05new kind of platforms. Here was Ed Sharon's old label going into music royalties
- 8:11kind of into the twenty first century, and this was Ditto actually doing kind
- 8:15of a splinter. It wasn't a rebrand for Ditto because Ditto was still operational,
- 8:18but blue Box was the project that they started and the idea was to
- 8:22get it onto Web three, and it comes from Dito Music. Former clients
- 8:26include Sharon, sam Smith, et cetera. Higher collection rates, massively reducing
- 8:31loss of earnings currently experienced by artists. This was the thing that they were
- 8:35trying to achieve with Web three didn't work out so well, and of course
- 8:39blue Box not really being able to do it. So as you can see,
- 8:43they've already started to rebrand right here into Opulus to launch this new project.
- 8:48Opulus in its own ride is a completely new kind of platform that goes
- 8:52into AI generation, So you're taking content from these creators and using AI to
- 8:58basically farm this in and then re create potential content that, in itself,
- 9:01I think is one of the challenges that we're probably going to see with things
- 9:05around AI in itself. This is, of course, is the Opulus program,
- 9:09so I think this one's dead in its tracks. Audius of course already
- 9:13trying to do this, and they tried to do it also, not necessarily
- 9:16on using it as an integral part, but feathering it into what they were
- 9:20trying to do from a Web three standpoint, But even they, if you
- 9:24look further into it, didn't really succeed at it. Content can only receive
- 9:28AI generated designation when associated with an artist who have actively opted in for the
- 9:31attribution, meaning this is kind of an honor system, So that's not going
- 9:35to work. Eventually, nobody's going to be doing that. This is another
- 9:39failed attempt for AI. I want to go to a clip right here,
- 9:41because this is record label starting to sue the AI startups that are trying to
- 9:46do this. Take a look a legal firestorm it's brewing today over this major
- 9:52clash between record companies and AI music services. The Recording Industry Association of America
- 9:56filing copyrighted infringement lawsuits today against two separate companies, accusing them of training their
- 10:03AI models on copyrighted music without permission. And interestingly, this is the software
- 10:09that's behind very prevalent songs, one example being BBL Drizzy. This is a
- 10:13song that was at the center of the spat between Kendrick Lamar and also Drake.
- 10:18So this is technology that is being heard already by millions of people.
- 10:22This is huge because I've been waiting for certain cases to come forward. This
- 10:26music one is going to be a strong case to come forward because the record
- 10:28labels and the tech companies are both using the terminology of fair use to try
- 10:35to win their case. The CEO of ASUNO, he says, quote,
- 10:39our technology is transformative. It is designed to generate completely new outputs. That's
- 10:43a key word transformative, because in order to be able to say we created
- 10:48this output in these songs based upon fair use, it has to be a
- 10:52transformative work. And what legislation means by transformative is it has to be used
- 10:58differently then the original intent of it. And so this is what these music
- 11:03AI companies are standing on which is a new transformative work, not the original
- 11:07one. Ooh, this sounds like it's gonna be a tricky legal one.
- 11:11So whoever wins this, I think the creators lose. That's the thing that
- 11:16really this boils down to. Without a blockchain integrated component, you're never going
- 11:20to really know where that music comes from. And I think that's where blockchain
- 11:24and web three solves all of this. Future Verse is a good example of
- 11:28this. This, of course, was just Billboard retweeting this future Verse launching
- 11:31gen which is an AI music model focused on transparency. The idea here is
- 11:37to help connect the dots between the creators and the AI use case of the
- 11:41music. So I think that's the biggest question of all going forward. So
- 11:45here's a clip on gen ai why it makes a difference. Take a look,
- 12:18all right, So there you can kind of see future versu has solved
- 12:20the problem for creators. Here was a just kind of following on their Twitter
- 12:24account. Right here, here's a gen musical music AI of course ethically trained.
- 12:30You can kind of see just some of the things that they're pioneering the
- 12:33field of AI music. Multiple patents are now pending. Again, all of
- 12:37this tied in to potentially the root network going forward. So let's take a
- 12:41quick look here. Audience of course has another integration opportunity of the partnership with
- 12:46Unreal Engine. This is where it starts to tie into gaming. This is
- 12:50something that Gala was trying to do when they had Gala Music tied into what
- 12:56Galla Gaming was trying to do. Audius of course now taking a huge step
- 12:58forward. The API they're using is courses, the Open Audio Foundation, more
- 13:03than a million tracks, you know, totally free kind of going into this.
- 13:05I think this is a big, big opportunity going forward. If you
- 13:09look at some of the just some of the traction that Audience has been able
- 13:13to do so far, API calls over five million, still growing upwards.
- 13:18This is lifetime unique users also still growing, you know, you look further
- 13:24into here, plays also still growing. And this is really just the beginning.
- 13:28One of the things that also needs to take place is the education around
- 13:31it. This was happening of course at ABE and this was a conference that
- 13:35got into a lot around innovative tech, whether it was blockchain, Web three,
- 13:41but a lot more in you know, just how we're going to see
- 13:43vr XR, et cetera. And they were talking a little bit more about
- 13:48this. So I'm going to go to a clip that kind of framed up
- 13:50what they were trying to present at ABE listening, and I'm thinking, how
- 13:54am I going to release my music? I'm going to put it out on
- 13:58Spotify and maybe I from Lucky people are going to hear it. And I
- 14:01found Spoty, Wi Fi, Fifi, Wrong, nifty Sacks, Mike Bass,
- 14:07Cristiano Covino alone, Architect. The list goes on and on and on.
- 14:09These are all independent musicians who turned to Web three in the last couple
- 14:15of years. Why does anyone know what's been going on in the music industry
- 14:18for the last twenty years? One word answer, theft. Who in the
- 14:22audience knows how much you would make if you had a million listens on Spotify?
- 14:28Three thousand dollars for a million streams. This woman in the very dead
- 14:31center of this picture, Violeta Serroni. She's got two NFT collections for her
- 14:35music, and between the primary sales of the NFT and then secondary sales on
- 14:39marketplaces of her NFTs, She's generated two million dollars in revenue in about two
- 14:45years. So that's I think I did the math at six hundred and sixty
- 14:48six million streams on Spotify. You also don't need millions of listens. You
- 14:52can have a few hundred, few thousand true fans and they're paying real money.
- 14:56They pay hundreds to small thousands of dollars to support your career. It
- 15:00is a different world with web three. Who has a crypto wallet here in
- 15:03the audience, right, Okay about how for you? That's great, guys.
- 15:09This is going to revolutionize content creators. And if you look at some
- 15:13of the ones that are out there other than what he mentioned there on that
- 15:16clip was here's Violetta. We talked about her. We actually showcased her not
- 15:20too long ago. So she says record label is suing AI music platforms.
- 15:24Before you note, they'll make a license deal with set platforms that has the
- 15:26same deal they made with Spotify. We're going to zoom it on for you.
- 15:31I'm happy and able to own and self distribute my own music that can
- 15:35effectively be owned by individuals through the blockchain. This is happening now. Now
- 15:41we are going to see huge pushback from the music industry. I think we'll
- 15:45probably see a lot of lobbying, especially around the regulatory framework of how this
- 15:50is going to go out, work of how this is going to go out,
- 15:52work of how this is going to go out, work of how this
- 15:54is going to go out, work of how this is going to go out,
- 15:56work of how this is going to go out. Give you an example
- 15:58of some of the projects that you need to be keeping an eye on.
- 16:02Here's Root Network. This is just their market cap all time, still very
- 16:06low. This is going to explode, I think over time as this market
- 16:11sees the growth opportunity going forward. If you look at Audius again, same
- 16:15kind of thing. Here's the max on Audius. Notice something right here,
- 16:18total supply max supply almost all out. This is a big opportunity I think
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