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Dems Freeze ICE · Pod Save America

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: What's up, Melbourne?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 3: I'm John Lovett.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Tommy Vizor.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 2: What a city. We're such fans.
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  Speaker 3: We love this city.
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  Speaker 2: We are not just saying that.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't do this for other cities. I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: to name any names.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so we got a big show tonight. In
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  Speaker 2: the five days since we've been gone from the U.S.,
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  Speaker 2: The president has tried and failed to arrest several members
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  Speaker 2: of Congress. The attorney general had a public meltdown over
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  Speaker 2: the administration's continued cover-up of a child sex trafficking ring.
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  Speaker 2: And the Department of Homeland Security is headed for a shutdown,
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  Speaker 2: but not because they used an experimental laser to accidentally
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  Speaker 2: shoot down a party balloon over Texas without giving aviation
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  Speaker 2: officials a head up, forcing them to ground all trafficked
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  Speaker 2: air traffic over El Paso. That's not why the department's
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  Speaker 2: closing down, but we'll get to why it is. But
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  Speaker 2: let's start with a very important public health announcement from
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  Speaker 2: the top U.S. official in charge of our nation's well-being.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not scared of a germ. You know, I used
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  Speaker 2: to snort cocaine off of toilet seats. There he is.
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  Speaker 3: There he is.
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  Speaker 2: Another Kennedy-winning... Winning hearts all over America.
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  Speaker 6: That is the most I've ever believed RFK Jr. This
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  Speaker 6: is a man who saw a dead bear carcass on
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  Speaker 6: the side of the road in upstate New York and thought,
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  Speaker 6: let's give it a ride to Manhattan.
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  Speaker 5: That's his vibe.
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  Speaker 2: We think that the cocaine fell and he just didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to waste any of it. There's no reason he
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  Speaker 2: was trying. What was the purpose of.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not a cool guy.
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  Speaker 2: I know he's a conservationist.
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  Speaker 3: I've not been offered cocaine often in my life. People
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  Speaker 3: just don't look at me and think he'll do cocaine.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure the toilet seat is never the
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  Speaker 3: best option for doing cocaine.
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  Speaker 5: Was he in a bathroom? He has to be in
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  Speaker 5: a bathroom.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's at Home Depot. Is it Ikea?
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  Speaker 3: Where were the follow-up questions.
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  Speaker 5: In this interview?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was with Theo Vaughn, so who knows. Okay,
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: let's get to the actual news. Believe it or not,
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  Speaker 2: the RFK Jr. clip was not the craziest performance of
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  Speaker 2: a Trump cabinet secretary this week. On Wednesday, Attorney General
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  Speaker 2: Pam Bondi tested... Wow. Sorry, Bondi.
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  Speaker 3: That's our fault.
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  Speaker 2: Playbook did title the story about this Bondi Beach.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. She testified in front of the House Judiciary
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  Speaker 2: Committee where she was asked to provide candid answers about
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  Speaker 2: the government's handling of the Epstein files. That's what this
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  Speaker 2: hearing was about. Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 7: How many of Epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted?
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  Speaker 2: How many perpetrators are you even investigating? First.
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  Speaker 3: You showed it.
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  Speaker 2: I find it.
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  Speaker 3: How many have you indicted?
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to answer the question.
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  Speaker 2: Answer my question.
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  Speaker 8: No, I'm going to answer the question the way I
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  Speaker 8: want to answer the question.
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  Speaker 3: You don't tell me anything. I did tell you because
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  Speaker 3: we saw what you did in the Senate.
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  Speaker 5: Not even a lawyer.
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  Speaker 8: Have you apologized to President Trump? The Dow is over 50,000
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  Speaker 8: right now. The S & P at almost 7,000. and
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  Speaker 8: the NASDAQ smashing records. That's what we should be talking about.
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  Speaker 8: This guy has Trump derangement syndrome. Don't you ever accuse
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  Speaker 8: me of a crime.
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  Speaker 5: I believe you just lie on your own.
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  Speaker 8: Her district includes Culver City, and she's not talking about
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  Speaker 8: any crime.
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  Speaker 1: In her district.
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  Speaker 2: But we're going to move back to you.
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  Speaker 3: I bet we are.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, of course, because you're here to testify. That's the idea.
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  Speaker 2: You come here, you go back to you because we're
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  Speaker 2: asking you questions.
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  Speaker 3: There's a, there's a, it's unbelievable. Great Steve Martin joke
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  Speaker 3: where he's at the Kennedy center honors for Paul. Kennedy
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  Speaker 3: center was a building we used to have for Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump blew it up. And, uh, Steve Martin says, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I could sing the praises of Paul Simon, but this
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  Speaker 3: is neither the time nor the place.
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  Speaker 2: Love it. Um, If you were Pam Bondi's communications director.
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  Speaker 3: And you almost were.
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  Speaker 2: And you almost were. And she walks out of the
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  Speaker 2: hearing room. She hasn't looked at social media yet. And
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  Speaker 2: she says, John, how'd I do?
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  Speaker 3: I think I'd say, wow. You did your best out there.
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  Speaker 3: And you really gave as good as you got, boss. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: late at night, you can't hear God anymore either, right? Like,
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  Speaker 3: you used to be able to hear something that felt
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  Speaker 3: like connection to, like, an ever-loving presence, and now it's silent, right?
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  Speaker 3: That's true for you, too. Not just me.
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  Speaker 2: Are we all?
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  Speaker 3: Because at night, when it's really quiet, it's getting quieter
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  Speaker 3: than it was, and you're like, what's missing? What's the
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  Speaker 3: quiet in the quiet? And it's like, is that me,
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  Speaker 3: or do you feel that too? Great job out there, boss.
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  Speaker 3: The boss is going to love it. I'm really happy
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  Speaker 3: with my.
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  Speaker 2: Has the president called? Has the president called? Has the
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  Speaker 2: president called yet?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: No. Tommy, aside from the crash out that we just witnessed,
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  Speaker 2: were there any answers or revelations from the hearing that
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  Speaker 2: you think will keep the story going or cause the
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  Speaker 2: administration some problems?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so there are a few factual things.
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  Speaker 6: One, she was repeatedly pressed if they were going to
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  Speaker 6: indict anyone based on what's in the Epstein files. And
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  Speaker 6: I think she said something like, we have pending investigations
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  Speaker 6: in our office, which seems like news and seemingly contradicts
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  Speaker 6: what the FBI director Kash Patel said when he said
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  Speaker 6: there was no one to indict based on what he'd
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  Speaker 6: seen in the files. Second, she said she claimed not
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  Speaker 6: to have known that Ghislaine Maxwell was going to be
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  Speaker 6: moved to a minimum security prison, which seems impossible to
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  Speaker 6: believe and suggests to me she may have perjured herself.
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  Speaker 5: Bigger picture.
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  Speaker 2: And she said it wasn't actually a minimum security prison.
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  Speaker 5: Which is bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: What is minimum anyway?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Saying we shouldn't be talking about prosecuting uh, child predators
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  Speaker 6: because the Dow is at 50,000 is one of the
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  Speaker 6: most fucking insane things I've ever heard anyone say in
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  Speaker 6: politics in my life.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the line though. It is the like 49,000. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Guess where it ended today.
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  Speaker 2: 49,000. Watch out co-conspirators.
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  Speaker 6: And I do think it was like permanently damaging. It just,
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  Speaker 6: not just because of the insanity of the comment, but
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  Speaker 6: the degree to which it broke through. Like, My TikTok
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  Speaker 6: and Instagram were full of people commenting on this. Like
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  Speaker 6: the Gen Z reporter at Barstool Sports was talking about
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  Speaker 6: how insane this was. And then there was also this
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  Speaker 6: moment where she was asked if she would apologize to
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  Speaker 6: victims of Epstein's crimes who were in the back based
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  Speaker 6: on how badly DOJ had bungled the release of the
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  Speaker 6: files and put out names and graphic images of people.
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  Speaker 6: And she would not look at them. She would not
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  Speaker 6: apologize to them. She would not give an inch. And
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  Speaker 6: I think like this performance drew so much more attention
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  Speaker 6: to Donald Trump's worst issue that I know she was
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  Speaker 6: performing for an audience of one, but I think she
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  Speaker 6: made it exponentially worse by acting like a crazy person.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, there's also another moment in the hearing where
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  Speaker 10: Congressman Dan Goldman had the, there are 10, uh, of
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  Speaker 10: Epstein survivors who are in the audience. And he asked them,
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  Speaker 10: how many of you have been interviewed by the department
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  Speaker 10: of justice? And none of them raised their hands. He
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  Speaker 10: asked you how many of you would be willing to share.
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  Speaker 3: Your story at the department of justice?
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  Speaker 5: They all raised their hands.
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  Speaker 10: And so you just have to think about this as
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  Speaker 10: they have a bunch of emails with people.
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  Speaker 3: On record.
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  Speaker 10: Admitting to or very seriously implying being involved in child
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  Speaker 10: sex trafficking, talking about torture videos, talking about incredibly young girls.
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  Speaker 10: And they have not even asked the women who were
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  Speaker 10: involved about this. Like there is no effort to investigate
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  Speaker 10: the most famous, maybe largest child sex trafficking ring in
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  Speaker 10: American history. And the reason that is, is because they
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  Speaker 10: don't want to know the names of the people that
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  Speaker 10: they're going to say.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Because once they start pulling on the strings, a lot
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  Speaker 10: of people who may be friends with this administration, friends
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  Speaker 10: with this president in this administration, their names may come out.
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  Speaker 2: And you do think that, like, as we go forward,
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  Speaker 2: that is something that reporters can keep pressing them on? Like,
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  Speaker 2: They are willing to be interviewed. You were at the hearing.
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  Speaker 2: Have you interviewed them yet? That's something that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be hard to just keep running away from.
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  Speaker 6: And because she was flipping around her briefing book so much,
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  Speaker 6: it was revealed that DOJ has surveilled members of Congress
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  Speaker 6: and knew what terms they were searching for when they
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  Speaker 6: were looking through, I assume, the unredacted Epstein files, which
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  Speaker 6: is an insane thing.
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  Speaker 1: To do.
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  Speaker 5: That would be a massive scandal in any other administration.
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  Speaker 10: This is, by some measures, perhaps the largest or most
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  Speaker 10: consequential political scandal in American history. You have the federal
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  Speaker 10: government of the United States from the absolute highest level
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  Speaker 10: covering up and protecting people involved in child sex trafficking
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  Speaker 10: because those people may be friends with, donors to, or
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  Speaker 10: colleagues of the President of.
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  Speaker 5: The United States.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Commerce Secretary, who we found out went to
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  Speaker 2: the island with his family.
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  Speaker 4: He brought his children to Pedophile Island, so that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: You want to take your kids to Epstein Island as
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  Speaker 2: a trip after you said that you broke off relations
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  Speaker 2: with him years before.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to get the fast pass, though. You've got to.
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  Speaker 5: It's a Disney joke. It's okay. It's okay.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they didn't understand? Do you think that's
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  Speaker 3: why they reacted that way?
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  Speaker 2: We were told not to dumb it down. Specifically. So, Dan,
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  Speaker 2: here's a Politico headline from a story about the hearing.
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  Speaker 2: House Dems think Pam Bondi just helped them in the midterms.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 10: That's putting a lot of weight on a congressional hearing
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  Speaker 10: that happened midday Wednesday in early February.
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  Speaker 2: We do have nine months.
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  Speaker 9: I think.
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  Speaker 10: There are two bigger questions here that come from this
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  Speaker 10: hearing and the entire thing. The first is, what impact
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  Speaker 10: will the Epstein files and cover-up have on politics? And
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  Speaker 10: the second question is, how should Democrats talk about the
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  Speaker 10: Epstein files in the midterm campaigns?
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  Speaker 3: So let's start with the first question.
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  Speaker 10: It's obviously going to have an impact. This is a
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  Speaker 10: rare monocultural event in American politics. It has been, honestly,
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  Speaker 10: the biggest story in American politics for nine months now.
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  Speaker 10: It dominates everything. Everyone talks about it. It's broken out
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  Speaker 10: of the political media bubble. Your non-political podcasters are talking
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  Speaker 10: about it. Influencers on TikTok and YouTube are talking about it.
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  Speaker 10: It is broken through and away. In our politics, there
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  Speaker 10: are so few moments like that that it's impossible for
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  Speaker 10: it not to have an impact.
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  Speaker 3: The question is, how do Democrats talk about it?
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  Speaker 10: It absolutely should be part of our message, but I
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  Speaker 10: think it needs to be a data point.
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  Speaker 3: About a larger story.
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  Speaker 10: And that larger story is that in America, there are
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  Speaker 10: two sets of rules, one for elites and one for
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  Speaker 10: everyone else. And that dynamic is why rich people get
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  Speaker 10: tax cuts and Americans get kicked off their healthcare. It's
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  Speaker 10: why politically connected fraudsters get pardons from the president and
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  Speaker 10: hardworking law-abiding people in America get thrown into vans because
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  Speaker 10: of the color of their skin or their accent.
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  Speaker 3: And it's why.
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  Speaker 10: And it's why the Department of Justice will not even
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  Speaker 10: talk to the victims because they're so worried that the
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  Speaker 10: elites will get in trouble because of it. And that
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  Speaker 10: is the story, that is an absolutely true, believable story
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  Speaker 10: of America. It's actually the story.
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  Speaker 4: That got Donald Trump elected twice.
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  Speaker 10: And the fact that he is now on the wrong
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  Speaker 10: side of that, that he is not someone breaking up
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  Speaker 10: that cabal as he tried. He is one of the
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  Speaker 10: elites protecting other elites. That is a mortal political wound
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  Speaker 10: for him. But we have to tell that story, we
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  Speaker 10: have to tell it aggressively. So we get too wrapped
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  Speaker 10: up in the specifics, I think you lose it. It's
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  Speaker 10: got to be, it's not just the Epstein files. Even
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  Speaker 10: though the country believes that he's covering something up, even
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  Speaker 10: though the country believes that there should be transparency, there
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  Speaker 10: should be more investigations, it has to be part of
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  Speaker 10: this larger story.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I also like, I also think her conduct at the
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  Speaker 2: hearing is like a perfect example that illustrates that story
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  Speaker 2: because people who are tuning in and, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: Tommy was saying, this like broke beyond the political bubble
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  Speaker 2: and everyone's just, people are watching the attorney general of
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  Speaker 2: the United States sit at a hearing and just refuse
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  Speaker 2: to answer a single question, scream at members of Congress.
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  Speaker 2: And midterms are about, you know, a referendum on the
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  Speaker 2: party in power. And they're about whether you want to
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  Speaker 2: have checks and balances and whether you want to hold
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  Speaker 2: an administration accountable and you want to have some balance
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  Speaker 2: of power in the country. And having Pam Bondi up
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  Speaker 2: there scream for a half hour and refuse to answer
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  Speaker 2: questions and talk about the fucking Dow when we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about child sex trafficking, it's just going to strike most
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  Speaker 2: people who don't even pay attention to politics as like,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell? Why shouldn't she have to answer questions?
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  Speaker 2: She works for us. She's the Attorney General of the
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  Speaker 2: United States.
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  Speaker 10: I understand for her own personal politics why she acted
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  Speaker 10: like this because this is apparently what people think Trump wants.
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  Speaker 10: But this is the last thing that Trump should want
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  Speaker 10: attention being drawn to. It's like robbing a bank and
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  Speaker 10: having your getaway driver light herself on fire outside the bank.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a good plan. Yeah, you won't get away.
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  Speaker 3: It's also, I think, worth saying, why is she doing
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  Speaker 3: this in this way right now? And I think it's
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  Speaker 3: because she's on her heels. There's lots of stories about
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  Speaker 3: Trump being pretty upset with her, and rightly so. This
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  Speaker 3: began with Pam Bondi saying that the list was on
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  Speaker 3: her desk. And she sent a bunch of people with
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  Speaker 3: binders out called Phase One before Kash Patel said there
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  Speaker 3: is no list. And that was when the doubt was
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  Speaker 3: at 45,000. And so I think ironically her fealty to
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  Speaker 3: the president and constant fear of losing a news cycle
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  Speaker 3: and then earning his wrath has put her in an
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  Speaker 3: impossible situation because Everyone knows she's just a vassal for
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  Speaker 3: Trump and that she's performing for an audience of one.
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  Speaker 3: That actually makes it impossible for her to do anything
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  Speaker 3: to help him with the scandal. Because everyone knows she's
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  Speaker 3: not an independent arbiter of justice. She works for him.
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  Speaker 3: And so there's really nothing she could do. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, their decision to redact these things has allowed
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  Speaker 3: the story to continue rolling out. Now there's all these
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  Speaker 3: news cycles about day after day of like, oh, who
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  Speaker 3: was this email from? We want to unredact this. We
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  Speaker 3: want to fix this. She is stuck in a loop
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  Speaker 3: where because she is so devoted to Donald Trump, she
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  Speaker 3: can't solve the problem for him.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Pam Bondi's had a few other, uh, big L's
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  Speaker 2: this week. Uh, she and the president tried to indict
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  Speaker 2: six democratic members of Congress, uh, for exercising their first
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  Speaker 2: amendment rights in this case, reminding members of the U
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  Speaker 2: S military, uh, that the law does not require them
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  Speaker 2: to obey illegal orders. Um, thankfully not a single American
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  Speaker 2: serving on a DC grand jury voted to indict. Um,
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  Speaker 2: Was it because criminalizing free speech is a nightmare that
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  Speaker 2: our founders probably had? Or was it because the prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: assigned to the case runs an active dance photography studio
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  Speaker 2: and has zero experience being a federal prosecutor? We'll never know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll never know. It's maybe some combination.
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  Speaker 5: It's a weird combo.
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  Speaker 2: Weird combo.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Position one,
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  Speaker 3: position one, position two, position two. Plie, plie, and spin.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, if you go to the Instagram feed, some good work.
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  Speaker 8: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the photography's not bad.
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  Speaker 5: Is she dancing while taking photos? Is that the deal?
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  Speaker 10: No, I think she takes photos of dancers.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it was a confusion because she.
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  Speaker 2: It's a he, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Because Piro had thought he had taken the bar. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy, should we feel relieved that our legal guardrails held,
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  Speaker 2: or should we be terrified that Trump and Bundy tried
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  Speaker 2: this in the first place?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't... D.C.
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  Speaker 6: Grand jurors have become a surprising bulwark against creeping fascism,
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  Speaker 6: whether you are a member of Congress or just a
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  Speaker 6: dude drunk hucking a sandwich at a nice guy. Shout
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  Speaker 6: out to D.C. grand jurors, but I do not think...
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  Speaker 6: I do not think that can hold. As we've all seen,
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  Speaker 6: there are judges and jurisdictions that are far more likely
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: to do Donald Trump's bidding. And I assume that at
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: some point, DOJ or somebody will find ways to route
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: these cases there. Earlier today, though, I spoke with one
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: of the six elected officials who they're trying to prosecute.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: And this person told me that they thought that Trump
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: was going to try again maybe as soon as tomorrow.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: So which is yesterday.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: So it's already no. Okay. With another grand jury.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: And so maybe it won't work again. Maybe it will fail.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: But luckily these people, you have to hire a lawyer.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: It takes time. It takes money. It is intimidating.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: And like, you know, in this case, it seems like
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: they fucked with the wrong six people.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Um, right. But there will be a whole host.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Of other people who are far more willing, um, to
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: be silenced, to be intimidated. For every Mark Kelly, there's
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: a Mark Zuckerberg who has tremendous money in power and
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: just turtles or a Jeff Bezos.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Or a, you know, Tim Apple, Tim Cook. Yeah, Tim Apple.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: Went to the Melania documentary premiere for Amazon. So I
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: don't think we should feel.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Good about this.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Love it. A federal judge speaking to Mark Kelly just
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: blocked Pete Higgseth from retroactively demoting Mark Kelly, Senator Mark Kelly,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: his military rank and reducing his pension. also because of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the illegal orders video, Hegseth then responded to say he's appealing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: And he's not.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Stop it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Stop it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Not anyone gets to be the understudy on the weekend
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Fox show. Why do you think they don't seem to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: care that they just keep losing these fights? They're not worried.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I think it's a couple things. I think to Tommy's point,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the problem... is the punishment. They just want to make
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: their lives miserable. They want to make them feel afraid
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: of the process and what the worst case scenario could be.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: This could go to a grand jury and that could
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: go beyond it. This could cause your pension to be reduced.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I think there's a reason that Jeanine Pirro is now
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: stuck going to a dance instructor slash lawyer to kind
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: of do this thing. They're not sending their best. Pete Agseth,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: like Pam Bondi, is just trying to keep his head
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: above water. He is just grossly unqualified to do this job.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: You can see it on his face. I'm sure he
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: feels it in every meeting he is with serious people
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: where he's pretending to be in charge. and pretending to
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: be on top of it, and pretending to have earned
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the respect of generals who can barely stare him in
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the face. They're all just trying to stay one news
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: cycle ahead. They get a defeat, so he says, we're
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: going to appeal it. Why does he have to say that?
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't look like they lost. They're always just
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: trying to stay one step ahead. And I think it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: important just to, I think sometimes these people, we don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: have to imbue them with magical powers or sort of
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: prognostication abilities. They're trying to figure this out one day
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: at a time. And I think Pete Hegseth is just
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: trying to stay ahead of the weather. Like, I really
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: do think that that's a lot of what's going on.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: So, Dan, like, I could see that most Americans, first
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: of all, if they have heard about this story, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: probably many haven't, but those who have heard about it,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like, oh, Donald Trump is, you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: trying to indict people and politicians and does it. But, like,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: this to me is a genuine, like, if not constitutional crisis, like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: democratic crisis right now that we are, that the president
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: is just because he didn't like a video trying to
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: use the justice department to arrest sitting members of Congress.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Do you think that like, this is something that might,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: might break through that maybe Democrats should talk about this?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, what do you think?
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: What do you want me to say, John?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You know what I want you to say?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And this is it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: You're right. This is an absolute crisis. the president of
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: the United States is criminalizing opposition to the regime.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Like that it is as authoritarian as it can be.
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: The only thing standing in the way is our American
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: citizens serving on grand joys.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: It is what's kept.
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: Jim Comey, Letitia James, Lisa Cook, and a bunch of
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: other people from actually being prosecuted, right? Being indicted by
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: their government and then brought up on criminal charges for
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: what is essentially anchoring the Mad King. Now, the way
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: to talk about this, I think, and we know that
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: people do care about this. In polling, after polling, majorities
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: think Trump is going too far. Majorities think, including strong
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: majorities of independents, and even a swath of Republicans think
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: Trump is a.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Threat to democracy.
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: There are, you know, huge majorities, particularly of independents, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: the country as a whole, who think that the government
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: under Trump.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Is a threat to free speech. Like, they're aware of this.
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: What really bothers people the most, and maybe this isn't
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: to say the best things about the voters who will
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: decide our election, is it's not just that Trump is
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: doing this. It's that he's doing this instead of the
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: other stuff they elected him for. There's a whole bunch
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: of people who elected Trump. They knew this risk. They
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: heard him say these things. Maybe they thought we were
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: being a bit hyperbolic in how we described it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: We weren't.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't really like him.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: They didn't like a lot of his policies.
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: But they really believed, given the choices they had, that
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: he would do a better job of making their life
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: a little bit easier by lowering prices. And then since
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: he's been in office, he's done everything but that. And
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: that's where this really hurts them. People care about democracy,
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: but what they really care about, like I said, maybe
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: this doesn't speak incredibly well of our citizenry, but what
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: they really care about is, because if you're in a
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: position where you are not making ends meet, that's what's
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: in front of you, because you're trying to feed your
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: family You're trying to save money for retirement. You're trying
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: to put your kids through college. And that is always
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: going to be first and foremost, and that's where he's failing.
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: But in part, he's failing because he's doing all this
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: other shit instead of that. Is that the answer you wanted,
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: or you wanted me to say?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Well, no, yes, of course. I also think that, like,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you think he's going to stop at members of Congress? Like,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: he could do this to you. He could do this
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to anyone. And what happens when he starts doing it
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to people who are not well-known people? who can't hire attorneys,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: who are not going to get the public behind them
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: because no one's going to know that it happened to them.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: At some point, you have to make the argument that
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: this is not about Trump fighting with other politicians or
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Democratic activists or organizers, but everyone is at risk if
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the President of the United States can just go try
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: to arrest people, throw them in jail for exercising their rights.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And I mean, look, and this is why, and we'll
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: talk about it, but this is why ICE and immigration,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: this is why he's so unpopular on that too, because
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: it is... people are starting to realize because they're seeing
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: in their communities that no one is, if some people
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: aren't safe from this president and the law doesn't work
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: anymore and the law is not upheld, then no one's safe.
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: I mean, that is, that's why the killings of Rene
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: Good and Alex Pretty broke through in the way they
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: did because it is evidence, everyone's worst fears came to fruition,
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: which is at any point, the government can do anything
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: they want to any American and takes no accountability for it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think there's like a, there's like a
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: virtuous thing feedback loop in which it's, what stands in
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the way of, it is, yes, it's a group of
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: grand jurors, but it's bigger than that, right? The fact
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: that there is not some mass movement behind Donald Trump,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: he's not the leader of a popular front that wants
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: to criminalize being a Democrat, and that erupted to help
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: him execute the day he was elected, that they don't
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: have enough lawyers to do the kind of work prosecution
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: of their enemies. They don't have the expert group. They
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: don't have the popular will behind them. It means that, yes,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: grand juries are going to stop them, but so are judges.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It means that when Trump tries to go after the
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: head of the Fed, there's pushback from Republicans as well.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have democratic legitimacy for this, which is why
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: it's important to make the argument that you're making, to
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: make the case, because even if that doesn't result in
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: them that will be felt inside of the legal process
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: because the law is what we say it is and
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: it is what judges say it is and if they
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: feel empowered by the public, it will allow them to
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: do more and be another check as we go through it. Melbourne,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: you're all here because you follow American politics and we're
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: here because you follow American politics. And we appreciate that,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: but do we appreciate it enough to learn even a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: tiny fucking bit about you? Let's find out. Tonight, we're
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: gonna test our knowledge of each other. I'm going to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: ask members of the audience, I'm gonna come out there now,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: questions from the American citizenship test. And I'm gonna ask
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: my best boys up here questions from the Australian citizenship test.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Oh no.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm coming around. It's going to take me
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a second.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get another drink for this.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I think you can probably still hear me. There's a
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: long route. Legally speaking, they said I wasn't allowed to
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: jump down from the stage because even though I act
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: like I'm not, I am technically over 40. I don't
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: even know if you guys can still hear me. Okay.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: We hear you.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Too loud.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: So here's how this is going to work. I have
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: some questions here about what it takes to become an
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: American citizen. A little bit like buying Bitcoin now. Here's
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: the thing. The motto of Pod Save America, buy the dip.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Who would like to go first?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, and by the way, I.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Love our Americans who are here and our expats who
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: are here. We're so grateful.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I'd like.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Australians to help. So, anybody want to raise their hand?
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: I'll come to you.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Hi, hi, hi. Hi, what's your name?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Chancy.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, hi. Not going to try, I'm sorry. All right. Now,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I will, one note about this. The American citizenship test,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: you just have to know the answer, but we publish
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: the full test. The Australians, you have to read a
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: book But the questions are multiple choice.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Interesting.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: The idea of self-government is the first three words of
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the Constitution. What are the first three words of the U.S. Constitution?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: We the people? You got it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: Good.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: John.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Tommy and Dan. What do we remember on Anzac Day?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Is it A, the landing of the Australian and New
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Zealand Army Corps at Gallipoli, Turkey? B, the arrival of
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the first free settlers from Great Britain? Or C, the
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: landing of the first fleet at Sydney Cove?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: What's the day called?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Anzac Day.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Anzac.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: A-N-Z-A-C. What we all know. Say the options again. The
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: landing of the Australian New Zealand Army Corps at Gallipoli.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: The arrival of the first free settlers. The landing of
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: the first fleet at Sydney Cove. Come on, fellas.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: First World War is what we were told.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I'll give it to you. That's correct. The landing of
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps at Gallipoli.
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: It's a bit like Memorial Day or Veterans Day.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Who would like to go next?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: You're going to come together.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: All right. How many years does a U.S. Senator serve?
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Way too many. I'm going to need a number. I'm
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: going to need a number.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: That is the right answer.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Six. Four. Wrong.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: It's wrong.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: How many? How many?
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Six.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: What is represented by the Commonwealth star on the Australian
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: national flag? Is it A, the six states and one
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: point for the territories? Is it B, the British heritage?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Or C, the Southern Cross? The Commonwealth star on the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Australian national flag.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Is it A? C. C.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: That's wrong, obviously.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Fucking audience.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: It is the six states and one point for the territories,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: which we all learn from reading the book that teaches
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: us all this, the common bond. Next up. Back to
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: our host. What is Australia's national flower? Is it A,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the tulip, B, the rose, or C, the golden wattle?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be C.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: It's gotta be C, right? C.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: It is, it's the golden waddle. A beautiful yellow flower.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: There we go. Points on the board.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Points on the board. I'll come over here. All right,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: who wants to go next from over here? Okay, hi, hi, hi.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: What's your name?
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Frances.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Frances, hi.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Are you from Melbourne? Yes. What a city. You live outside?
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: About an hour and a half.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, but in indoors. If the president and the vice
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: president can no longer serve, who becomes the American president?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: There's a half. You got it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: Amazing.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Well done.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: All right, boys. What is the national anthem of Australia?
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Is it A, Waltzing Matilda, B, a song we all
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: love out here, is it B, God Save the Queen,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Or is it C, Advance Australia Fair? Come on, Tommy.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: What is the world you've been saving?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It's not a trivia show. Ben would know.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Do you think it's God Save the Queen?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought they'd keep it up. It's C.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: How could it be God Save the Queen when you
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: think about it?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: She dead. C.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: You got it. It's Advance Australia Fair. All right, who
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: would like to go from over here?
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, hi, hi.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Well, you can't, you know what? Fuck you for pointing
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: at your friend. Name two cabinet level positions in the
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: US government. Two cabinet level positions. Stop helping, kind Australians. Mouthy,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: nice people. Uh, secretary?
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: That is, uh, okay.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Of what? Of what?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Secretary of war and secretary of state.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Wrong.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: That is, there is no secretary of war. That's Trump talk.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I was going to say there is now.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Wrong.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Not by law.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: When did the first fleet of convict ships... arrive in Australia?
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Was it July 4th, 1776, the 1st of January, 1800,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: or the 26th of January, 1788? I think it's C, right? C. C? C. C,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: that's correct. One of Australia's proudest moments, I guess. Weird
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: history you guys got. Love it here.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: You're just up. What's happening? Okay, sit down, you prisoner.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Sit down. Act like this isn't a prison anymore.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Jumping up.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Here, let's do one. I'm doing it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: All right, ready?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: When was the U.S. Constitution written? It was in the
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: olden days. Hit the nail on the head there. You're
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: so cocky. Now we're talking and you don't have a
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: fucking answer. But you know what? Oh, I'm getting punched.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Get his ass.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: John, Tommy, Dan, when was the U.S. Constitution written?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Come on, boys.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: 1783?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're getting so close to it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: The Australians know it's 1787. So close. So close. So close.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So close. Well done. These are hard. These are hard.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, let me give you a real, let's give you a,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Let's do this.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Who is Australia's head of state? Is it A, this
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: is a sensitive topic. It's a sensitive topic. Is it A,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: just chill out. Just for the rest of the game,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: act like you're still a colony.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: I'm going to get.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Killed out here. All right, A, is it the prime minister?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Is it B, the governor general? Or is it C,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the king of Australia, his majesty King Charles III? C. That's, yeah, no,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: it is. It is King Charles. It is King Charles. Oh,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I read the book today.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: Why don't you all take your fucking tests again? The
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: governor general is his representative. You are all still fucking
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: subjects of that inbred fucking London. You can pretend all
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: you want otherwise, but until you change your constitution, you
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: work for Charles.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Guess we're not getting asylum here.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I got a little upset there for a second.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Why does our flag have 13 stripes? It's the 13
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: original colors. You got it. Thank you. See, we're coming back.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: What is the role of the governor general in Australia?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Is it A, make all the government decisions, B, lead
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: the parliament, or C, act as the king's representative? and
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: perform ceremonial and constitutional duties. C.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Sounds like C on this one.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: You got it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Let's do one more question out here amongst all these. Hi, hi, hi, hi.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: What's your name?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Ash.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Ash. Name one of the two longest rivers in the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: United States.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Mississippi.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: You got it. The other is the Missouri. And as
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I come back, Melbourne, you won the game. And as
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I come back. Run.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Run.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: As I come back, I just want to say that
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: in learning a lot about your country, I came to
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: find out that in 1975, your supposedly ceremonial governor general
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: committed a fucking coup. There was a coup d'etat in
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Australia in 1975. Boo me all you want. You know
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I'm right. And then in 1975, the fucking king of
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: England had a coup in your country and you all
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: just fucking ate it. Right? The CIA did it. You
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: know what? There's a lot you can blame on us.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: There's a lot you can blame on us.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: But not the 1975 Governor General thing.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: You did that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: You lose the game. My boys won the game. And
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: we'll be right back.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: All right, well, let's get back to talking about America.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Clearly a superior country, because as most of you know... Well,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: that was some heavy sarcasm there, because I was about
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: to say, as most of you know.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: They haven't gotten sarcasm here yet.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Our government has been sending roving paramilitary squads into our
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: cities and towns to round up immigrants and citizens alike,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: so that's what we're dealing with. Um, but there's been
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: some promising news on that front this week. Uh, Democrats
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: in Congress are standing strong in refusing to fund the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: department of Homeland security, unless Trump and Republicans agree to
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: rain in ice. Uh, A Trump-appointed judge, of all judges,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: just ruled that the administration must no longer violate thousands
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of immigrants' constitutional rights by locking them up without access
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to lawyers. And in Minnesota, Borders are Tom Homan and
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walz announced that Operation Metro Surge, which has
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: terrorized the people of Minneapolis, has finally ended. And here's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: what Tim Walz had to say at his press conference.
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: The federal government needs to pay for what they broke here.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: We've got children that a core memory for them will
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: be their classmate being taken away. And that will stick
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: with them the rest of their lives. And my hope
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: is what sticks with them is human decency wins out.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Rule of law matters. All the surge is going, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: they're going immediately. So as soon as they can pack
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: their stuff, book a plane, move on, I would volunteer.
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: We will help you get to the airport. We will
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: clear the roads to get you to the airport. I
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: will come over and pack your damn bags if that's
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: what it takes.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Minnesota nice right there.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: That's Tim Walls. Love that.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: That's a Tim Walls we loved.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Tim Walz packing the bags, the Under Armour shirts, the
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: photos of the kids they're not allowed to see.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Love it. You were in Minneapolis a couple weeks after
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the killing of Alex Preddy. What are some lessons you
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: think we can take away from what happened here?
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: So, I think something that will always stick with me,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: something I've never seen in an American city, are just...
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Parents standing on street corners all throughout the city in
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: vests with whistles, kind of these sentinels, standing guard of
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: the schools, preschools, middle schools, high schools, in case ICE
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: shows up. That is an organic outpouring of empathy, compassion,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: of people standing up for their neighbors in their community.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: And that group of unarmed people were strong enough to
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: force the Trump administration into retreat. When... That's something I've
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: said before. Dictators look stronger than they are. Democracy looks
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: weaker than it is. But it is very powerful. We
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: are very powerful. The American people are powerful. And they
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: underestimate that because I think they equate being kind with
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: being weak. But you can be kind and tough. And
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I think that's what the people of the Twin Cities showed.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what we have to show as Americans.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: And I just think we can. And that is why
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I think when we like worry about what they're going
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: to do to take over our elections, worry about what
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: they're going to do to throw members of Congress in jail.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: We have to remember that we are still stronger than
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: them and we should not give them power that they
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: haven't taken because we will hold them back. Like we
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: will set how far they go. They will not decide
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: how far they go.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Dan, another two polls came out this week,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: one from NBC, one from the Associated Press that show
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Trump's approval on immigration at record lows. I think in
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the AP poll, his approval on immigration is even lower
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: than his economic approval.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: How's his economic approval?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Not great either. Not great either. Though immigration being lower,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I've been reliably told that only economic issues are what
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: people care about. So it's nice to see that. I
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: am sure that that's one reason Democrats in Congress feel
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: like very confident heading into this mini shutdown of the
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security, which will probably take effect by
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: the time people listen to this podcast. How do you
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: think Once the Department of Homeland Security shuts down, Democrats
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: win this fight. And what does a win look like?
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: So whenever you are dealing with a budget or government
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: funding shutdown, there's a political win and a substantive win.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: They're not always the same thing. So let's talk about
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: the political win first.
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: Democrats, as you point out in this polling, they have
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: the high ground here. And this is really going to
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: require Democrats and Congress to change their mentality. Because our
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: natural assumption since the day Trump came down the escalator is,
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: If the conversation's about immigration, it's bad for Democrats. And
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: that is no longer the case. Immigration, it went from
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: Trump's greatest strength to a glaring weakness. And so we
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: have the political ones that are back here.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: We should be strong.
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: And it's positive to know that talking to senators, they
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: believe that Democrats will stand strong here. The way I
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: think they carry the message here is they stand strong.
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: They are very loud and clear about what it is
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: they're asking for and be very specific. that all that
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: they are asking for is for people to stop wearing masks,
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: for ICE agents to have to use judicial warrants, like
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: our Constitution says, before they arrest people, that ICE and
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: CBP agents adopt the same standards for use of force
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: as every other federal law enforcement officer in the country.
• 44:36
  Speaker 10: That's all we're asking for. And then the other thing
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: here is we care about ICE and CBP, the Customs
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: and Border Patrol. And Democrats are willing to fund the
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: rest of the Department of Homeland Security tomorrow if Republicans
• 44:48
  Speaker 10: will agree to it. We will fund the Transportation Security Administration.
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: We'll fund everything other than that. And so they force
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: Republicans to vote against that or to say they will
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: not do that.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: They put them in a position of being unreasonable.
• 45:04
  Speaker 10: And the only thing that Democrats cannot do here is
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: to do what they did at the end of the
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: last shutdown, which is to quit with nothing, to fold
• 45:14
  Speaker 10: their cards before getting anything else. If the DHS has
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: to be shut down through the election, through the swearing
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: in of the Democratic majority in the House and maybe
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: the Senate, then that's what has to happen here. Because honestly,
• 45:29
  Speaker 10: ICE has money. We should be very clear, ICE has
• 45:31
  Speaker 10: $ 125 billion. They're not going to suffer here, but there
• 45:36
  Speaker 10: is a principle here in that we will not vote
• 45:38
  Speaker 10: to give a single penny to this agency that has
• 45:42
  Speaker 10: killed American citizens, that has terrorized American communities, without the
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: most basic guardrails you could possibly ask for. And we
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: have to stand by that, because if we're not going
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: to do that, then this is going to end up,
• 45:53
  Speaker 10: that would be tremendously damaging if we fold our cards here.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: And we should be clear, too, like, within the Department
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: of Homeland Security, like, the TSA, right, those are the
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: people at the airports who, you know, when you go
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: through security, and If, you know, TSA will work without pay,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: they'll have to work without pay for a while. But,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: you know, last time we had a shutdown, the airports,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: you get a lot of delays and then travel.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: But that's the FAA, which is funded.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: At some point, the TSA thing starts getting a little funky.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: But I do think, and the Coast Guard, too, and FEMA, right,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: which is emergency management.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: And we'd fund them.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: And so I think at some point the Republicans will say, oh, look,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the Democrats are hurting people by doing all this. And
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, Democrats have to say, no, no.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: We'll fund this immediately. And if you want to leave
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security, the rest of it, ICE
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and Customs and Border Patrol, like, unfunded for the rest
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: of the year, great. We don't care. Like, I don't think...
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: And I think there's less pressure on Democrats over DHS
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: than there was when the whole government was shut down
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: over the Affordable Care.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Act, for sure.
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: ICE's approval rating is down 30 points in the last year.
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: So if they want to... If the Republicans.
• 47:04
  Speaker 10: want to make it hard for people to go through airports,
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: they want to keep the Coast Guard unfunded, they want
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: to keep the rest of Homeland Security unfunded, to pay
• 47:11
  Speaker 10: for the masked paramilitary groups terrorizing American communities that Americans,
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: including even 24% of Republicans, disapprove of, that's their choice
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: and they should pay a price for it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Tommy, while we're on the subject of
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security, we should talk about Lasergate,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: which I briefly mentioned at the top of the show.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: So again, the headline here is that Customs and Border
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Patrol reportedly used an anti-drone laser on loan from the
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Pentagon to shoot down a party balloon flying over El Paso.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Party pew-pew-pewpers.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Un-fucking-believable.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Is my mic.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: On?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Can someone turn it off? So they shoot down the
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: party balloon with the laser on loan from the DOD
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: without giving the Federal Aviation Administration a heads up. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: the FAA then briefly closes the airspace over El Paso
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: in Texas, which is a city of about a million people.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Why would they do that? Why are we shooting Defense
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Department lasers in a situation where we're not at war?
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Can I add one more question to this?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: What's a party balloon?
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: Right. That we cannot answer. We were all searching for
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: this today. We don't know. We think it's just a
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: mylar balloon.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need better reporting on this.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we need better balloons.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Is it mylar? Is it just helium?
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Who's on the balloon beat?
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: It's got to be helium.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: 99 red balloons.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: It's got to be in the air.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: What's going on? Yeah.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: So the weapon system itself is actually pretty cool, but
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: it's shocking how bad they fucked this up. So the
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: system itself is called LOCUS, or the Palletized High Energy.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Laser, P-HEL. Great name.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: So it's like.
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: It's like a seven by seven box. You can slap
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: it on the back of a truck. There is one
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: like optic is a laser. One is a guidance system.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: And I think it's sort of like bolt into whatever
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: radar you have around. And what it does is provides
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: a mini air defense bubble for deployed troops. And anyone
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: who has seen footage of what it is like on
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: the front line in Ukraine knows that like war these
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: days is drones that you could often buy it. Best
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: Buy or whatever that you strap a grenade to. Sometimes
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: they use AI guidance and they're unmanned systems that are
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: autonomous that are just, you know, absolutely lethal. And so
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: what this system does is it provides a way to
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: defend against those. Like it's a 20 kilowatt laser that
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: which is actually not that much. It's kind of like
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: the low end of the spectrum. I read it was
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: like 350 light bulbs, basically. But you direct it the
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: size of a dime. And over time, it's a shitload
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: of energy. So I watched a promotional video this company
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: did about their weapon system on YouTube. And they melted
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: a two-inch metal coin from half a mile away in 1.5 seconds.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: And the reason this is important is because basically cost like...
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: Normal missile defense systems, the interceptor missiles cost hundreds of
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars. This is
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: basically like a dollar or two, three dollars per kill.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: So a good system.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Per kill is what you said.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: Per fire. So there's a good thing. It's like.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Tommy, have you purchased one of these lasers?
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: We cannot. I don't think so.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: He's like, the laser... Oh, we should tell you. Tommy's
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: on the board of Raytheon. Do we not mention that?
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Are you going to check the box when we go
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: through customs that you cannot be bringing the laser?
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: So the balloon costs more than the laser.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it's like unlimited ammo. Yes, you can take
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: out a balloon for less than the price of the balloon.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: That's why laser was such a good weapon in Contra.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: So apparently.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Apparently.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: The cartels are flying drones like these over the border.
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: They're tracking CBP so they know where they are. And
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: they'll see the customs officials move one way, and they'll
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: send whatever drugs are over the border the other. So
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: what it seems like happened was the army acquired some
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: of these systems. They loaned them to DHS, who gave
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: them to CBP. And these cowboy assholes just started firing
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: these fucking things at balloons without telling anyone. And the
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: FAA was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We've got to
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: ground all the planes. But then they announced that we
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: had to ground all the planes for 10 days, which
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: I don't understand.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: And they lied, right? And they didn't say it was
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: a balloon at first. They said it was like drugs, right?
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there were multiple stories coming out.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: At first it was a, yes, it didn't make any sense.
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: And so what this story to me suggests that this
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: is what happens when you have a national security advisor
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: who is also the secretary of state who until recently
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: was the chief archivist and is like seemingly the president
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: of Venezuela.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: What?
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Did he lose the archivist job?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, he did.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: He did. And he's also running Venezuela. And so.
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: That guy is the person, Marco Rubio should be coordinating
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: the interagency to be like, all right, we got this
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: problem of like cartels on the border. They're flying drones.
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: They're tracking our agents so they can traffic things across
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: the border.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: Here's the solution.
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: Here's how we're going to work together to make sure
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: that we don't shoot US or Mexican commercial planes.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: By accident.
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: But no one told the FAA. So they just, like,
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: did this. Everyone freaked out, understandably. And it was a
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: complete disaster.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: And it sounds like no one told RFK Jr. because
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: his shipment was in that balloon.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: It was just a floating toilet across the border.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: That guy's got to go find another toilet.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: Unbelievable.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Just idiots.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Idiots.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Not in the government. Transportation secretary who's a former cast
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: member on The Real World.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: And honestly, he's one of the better ones.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: He's doing okay.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he's fucked up too.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is on him, is it?
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: The balloon thing? He's in charge of the FAA.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Didn't it seem like the 10-day shutdown thing was kind
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: of like a way of being like, we weren't told
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: this was happening. We're going to be kind of like,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: we're going to be like pissy about it. Yeah, for sure.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: But it's like, what's the end game there?
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: It's also a serious thing. In the El Paso airport,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: there were medevacs that needed to get out of there.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: It's not just people traveling into El Paso. People need
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to get out of there. The airspace was shut down
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: because they shot a fucking laser at a bloke.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: I don't think they told the Mexican government either.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of problems with this. It's like the
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: 10th story on the New York Times because everything else
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: is fucked up too. All right. That's the news for now.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Now it's time for OK Stop. Here's how it works.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: We'll roll a clip, and when we want to stop
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: to talk about it, we'll say OK Stop. In America,
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: we call it Super Bowl Sunday. Here in Melbourne, we
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: suppose it would be Super Bowl Monday, and that raised
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions for us. President Franklin Roosevelt described
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: December 7th, 1941, the day that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: as a day that would live in infamy, but here
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: that was December 8th. So what day lives in infamy?
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: We refer to the terrible events of September 11th, 2001
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: as 9-11, but here it was 12-9. Anyway, this week
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of American conservatives, including Megyn Kelly, watched Bad Bunny,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: arguably the most popular musician in the world, perform the
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: halftime show during the Super Bowl. But for people like
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Megyn Kelly, it was like a cultural 12-9. And so,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: let us all watch and wonder as Megyn Kelly, in
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: conversation with Piers Morgan, apps.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Honestly, he's the hero here.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: Watch his face. It's so funny.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: As Megyn absolutely crashes out.
• 55:09
  Speaker 11: I'm sorry, Piers, but to get up there and perform
• 55:12
  Speaker 11: the whole show in Spanish is a middle finger to
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: the rest of America. Who gives a damn that we
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: have 40 million Spanish speakers in the United States? We
• 55:24
  Speaker 11: have 310 million who.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: Don't speak a lick of Spanish.
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: This is supposed to be a unifying event for the country,
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: not for the Latinos, not for one small group, but
• 55:36
  Speaker 11: for the country.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, stop. I just want to say... Obviously, this is shocking.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: It's funny in the context of the rant because when
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: she does a lot of like Evita-like gestures, for someone
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: who's railing against Latin culture, she's up there being like
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: arms up on the balcony.
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: Also, the Super Bowl is not a unifying event. It
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: is an opportunity for the NFL to make as much
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: money as humanly possible to for a group of billionaire owners.
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: As the United States, we all pick one side or
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: the other, and we watch them concuss each other to
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: death on a field.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as a Patriots fan, it didn't feel very unifying.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: It didn't feel good for me.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: The Super Bowl.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Well, the rest of us were unified about that result,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: so that's fine. It really is.
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: 22 grown men beating living shit out of each other
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: while we eat a six-foot sub and have some wings.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: It is a great event. I love it. The 15
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: minutes of Spanish didn't seem like that was an issue.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: What is that character she did? Like, she's so angry.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Like, what?
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she did accent work.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Work is generous.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: All right, let's continue.
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: Black national anthem. We don't need a Spanish speaking, non-English
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: performing performer. And we don't need an ice or America
• 56:58
  Speaker 11: hater featured as our primetime entertainment.
• 57:03
  Speaker 8: OK, what is the national language, officially the national language
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: of the United States of America?
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, English.
• 57:11
  Speaker 11: And there's been a push for many, many years to
• 57:14
  Speaker 11: make it an official documented thing.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: You don't have one.
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: If you would have let me finish my comment, I
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: would have pointed that out. People have been pushing to
• 57:23
  Speaker 11: make it official.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're trying to make official.
• 57:27
  Speaker 11: This attitude that you have right here is why you
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: and Great Britain have lost your culture.
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: You ceded your culture to.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: A bunch of radical....
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Look, now the Muslims are catching strays.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: That attitude by Piers Morgan is why the British have
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: lost their culture. If only we were so lucky. I
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: can't get... Everywhere I look is British culture. I feel
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: like Shakespeare's hanging on. All the American roles go to
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: British actors.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she thinks Shakespeare joined ISIS, and she's screaming at him. Also,
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: many Americans can't speak English, if we're just being honest.
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: A lot of us don't understand our own language particularly well.
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: I mean, our president has a faint grasp on the
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: language to begin with.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: She's so mad, too. It was very funny. She's like,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: we don't need a Spanish-speaking, non-English performing.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: It's just like.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: No, we got you.
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: Like, our last several halftime shows were Kendrick Lamar artfully
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: calling Drake a pedophile.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 58:34
  Speaker 10: Dre and Snoop Dogg doing a 1990s hip-hop revival.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: The Weeknd.
• 58:39
  Speaker 10: Like, were those nationally unifying events? I guess the Kendrick
• 58:43
  Speaker 10: thing was an attack on Canada, which was cool.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that did unify the country
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: against Drake.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: No one has honestly seen him in public since.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the end of him. It's funny that
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: every year the Super Bowl is in some sense about pedophilia.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Let's continue.
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: Muslims who came in and took over and now it's gone.
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: We're not allowing that here, whether it's Hispanic, whether it's Muslim.
• 59:13
  Speaker 11: It's not happening in the United States of America. That's
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: why President Trump was elected.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: And whether it's Bad Bunny, who.
• 59:17
  Speaker 11: Is American, but refuses to speak English in his performances
• 59:21
  Speaker 11: or anybody else, we have to keep the Super Bowl,
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: which is a quintessential American event. Football, that kind of football,
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: is ours.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: They call it American football.
• 59:30
  Speaker 11: And the halftime show and everything around it needs to
• 59:32
  Speaker 11: stay quintessentially American. Not Spanish, not Muslim, not anything other
• 59:38
  Speaker 11: than good old-fashioned American apple pie. There should be a meatloaf,
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: maybe some fried chicken, and an English-speaking performer.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: That's what the.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl should be.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, stop. Fucking meatloaf?
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: It's a classic Super Bowl food between Yeah, Super Bowl.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Is about long, simmering oven dishes. It's about what you're
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: pulling out of the hearth. What the fuck is she
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: talking about?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: The.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: She's so angry. What are you angry about? You're so rich.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: You just sit in a studio and you yell all day.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Like she sits in front of this specific background hour
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: after hour, day after day.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: You live in Connecticut with your fucking family and you're
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: just sitting there yelling on a microphone. What's your problem?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I think as a rule, everyone should have to show
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: the full context of where they're doing their content making.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: I think that this shot should have to go wide,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: show us in the room, the studio in her beautiful home,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: then watch it go through the, I'm sure, hideously appointed
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: beige fucking soulless interiors that she paid for. That looks
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: like just a joyless gray expanse of what life could
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: be or should be if you were a person who
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: knew how to be happy. But we should have to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: see that. I think we should get to see that.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Because what are you so mad about? What are you
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: so mad about? By the way, it was an American flag.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: It was cool.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: It was a cool concert.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 10: It was fun in the moment to watch a lot
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 10: of MAGA discover that Puerto Rico is part of America.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: Yes, it was.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: But it's also like, it's 15 minutes.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Muted.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: For 15 minutes, someone who disagrees with.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: You sang a couple songs. That's it. You could have
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: gone peep. You could have gone to get some extra meatloaf.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: A lot of options.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Wait, fucking a huge mix of cultures and languages. That
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: is quintessentially American. That is the whole fucking country.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: Honestly, that is the whole point of our politics right
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: now is the disagreement with that idea.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Like, read all the documents. All of them. Read them.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: I just can't overstate how little you will see meatloaf
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: at a Super Bowl party. I've never ever in my
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: life seen meatloaf at a Super Bowl.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: It's chips and dips and wings and more dips.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: It's a snacking holiday.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 10: Because you're going to all the Spanish-speaking Muslim ones.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Also, I would leave a Super Bowl party if I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: saw meatloaf. I'd be out of there.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Also, also, we stole meatloaf from the Germans.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: It was a traditional minced meat dish that they stole
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: from the Romans.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: That's how culture works. You steal things from the new guy.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Did you Google the origins of meatloaf? I Googled it, yes. Yes, GBT,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: help me out with that. Yeah, I just.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Meatloaf, better in the original German.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: I think it would be very fun to have a
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl party, invite Megyn Kelly over, never say a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: word about it, and then just be like, Megyn, care
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: for Penang curry? Uh....
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Megan, como estas?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Megan, you must try the sashimi. We have a wonderful spread.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: All of our favorites.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I'll be over here on my prayer mat.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: We actually like to watch the Super Bowl facing east. Now.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: When you make Piers Morgan look like the reasonable one,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: Jesus Christ.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I told you he was the hero here.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Let's not let Piers Morgan off the hook because all
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: you can see in Piers Morgan's shit-eating grin is, I'm
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: viral again, baby Piers. Keep it going, Megan. It's another
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: great day for Piers. Attention. That's my Super Bowl food.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Nosh, nosh, nosh.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Attention. And that's okay, stop.
• 1:03:52
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