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Mac & Bone Show - Zach Gelb Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: He is back joining us again on Fridays to talk football,
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  Speaker 1: and we're very happy about it. He will be in
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  Speaker 1: the studio for Compass Media's NFL coverage. They got Bills, Texans.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good one. Cowboys, Giants. My God, why is
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  Speaker 1: this game always a Sunday night game?
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  Speaker 2: But he'll be in the.
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  Speaker 1: Studio for the national radio coverage on Compass Media. He
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  Speaker 1: is Zach Gelb, and he joins us here on the
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  Speaker 1: Mac and Bone Show. Gelb, how you been, man?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Mac Bone doing great. Panthers coming off an NFC South championship.
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  Speaker 4: What a wild time it.
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  Speaker 3: Is to be on with you guys.
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  Speaker 5: A beautiful time to be alive, Gelby. A beautiful time. Gelby,
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  Speaker 5: we've moved on. We're now on the quest for back-to-back
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  Speaker 5: championships now. We're forgetting what happened last year. We're focused
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  Speaker 5: on going back-to-back right now.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Can we find a way to get to 9-8 instead
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  Speaker 4: of 8-9, maybe?
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  Speaker 1: How does he know what my prediction is for the season?
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  Speaker 1: One more win, Gelby, and you can still win the South.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. I'm almost afraid to
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  Speaker 1: ask Gelby, but I'll ask it. The national media perspective
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  Speaker 1: on this team, it does feel like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people look at and say they only won eight games.
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  Speaker 1: They needed help in the final week to get there.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people seem skeptical. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: of the Panthers' chances to repeat in the South?
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  Speaker 4: I think they got a shot. I think every team
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  Speaker 4: in this division has a chance to win it because
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  Speaker 4: there's not that much separation. It's a big year for
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback because you're moving closer and closer to that
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  Speaker 4: contract extension. I think he's been serviceable the last year
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  Speaker 4: and a half. I like Tedderow McMillan who won the
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  Speaker 4: offensive rookie of the year. And do you look at
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  Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball? Derek Brown's a phenomenal player.
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  Speaker 4: And I did like the signing of Bobby O'Kerrick a
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  Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd created a lot of turnovers a year ago.
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  Speaker 4: So you kind of look at this team and you go, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like they could be eight wins. They could be nine wins.
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  Speaker 4: And that puts them right in the thick of things
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  Speaker 4: to try to go win this division again.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you have winning this division though?
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  Speaker 4: So I'm picking the saints.
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  Speaker 2: Now they are, they are trending.
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  Speaker 3: Here's why. Here's why.
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  Speaker 4: I look at Atlanta, they don't have a quarterback, so
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  Speaker 4: I don't trust them. I, the Panthers eight wins a
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  Speaker 4: year ago, they got a chance right in the mix. Again,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to take the team that repeated as
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  Speaker 4: division champions. Cause I've done that enough with all my
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  Speaker 4: other picks. And then I looked at Tampa Bay, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I may regret not picking Tampa just because Baker got
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  Speaker 4: the contract deal taken care of him. Vita Bay did
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  Speaker 4: as well. And for most of this off season, like Baker,
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  Speaker 4: wasn't going to get the contract deal done. Like probably
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  Speaker 4: on paper, Tampa is the best team. But I look
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  Speaker 4: at the saints. I'll just take a gamble on Tyler shock.
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  Speaker 4: I know they're the wide receiver. They just drafted is
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  Speaker 4: already hurt, but they do have a lot of a,
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  Speaker 4: and then how about this? Travis ATN jr. Do you
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  Speaker 4: see how he's pronouncing his name now, guys?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Cause we have his brother. We have the same issue here.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Like when the heck did that happen? I just want
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  Speaker 4: to be Devon HN now.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. All of a sudden we've been saying the
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  Speaker 2: name that.
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  Speaker 5: Wrong all that HN money and said, man, I got
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  Speaker 5: to get it on that.
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  Speaker 1: And how do you get HN out of that spelling?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just, I guess that's some Bayou stuff there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just confused.
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  Speaker 4: I am man. You know, Mac, usually you and I
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  Speaker 4: are both idiots on this one. I think we're the, we're,
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  Speaker 4: we're more intelligent, right?
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  Speaker 5: Clearly, clearly, by the way, as far as we've never
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  Speaker 5: called you an idiot before.
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  Speaker 2: No, would never happen. Would never have Gelby.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say, shuck you about your pick though,
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  Speaker 1: in the South.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I want to say. You know what?
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  Speaker 4: That's not preseason for Mac. I'm like the Patriots and
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  Speaker 4: the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Gelby, what did you think of the Rams game? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess we got to give the Niners credit, man.
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  Speaker 1: They went there and took it to them. But my God,
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  Speaker 1: the Rams were so bad. What did you think of
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  Speaker 1: that game? And do you draw any conclusion? I guess
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  Speaker 1: the one conclusion we draw is the Rams aren't some
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  Speaker 1: super team that's going to roll like, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? We got to chill with that stuff a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. What did you think?
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  Speaker 4: I take you back to 2003, the Patriots ended up
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  Speaker 4: going 14, two and winning the super bowl. They lost
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  Speaker 4: the first game of the season, like 31, nothing to
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  Speaker 4: the bills. So I don't overreact in game one of
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  Speaker 4: the regular season, but like this notion that the Rams
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  Speaker 4: who I do think are the team to beat and
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  Speaker 4: they are my super bowl pick. But the idea that
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  Speaker 4: people were thinking they were going to go undefeated while
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  Speaker 4: they're playing the NFC west, that's just insulting to teams
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  Speaker 4: like the Seahawks and the 49ers. And, yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 4: put much stock in it last night, but it's just
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  Speaker 4: a reminder, yeah, the 49ers still really am good, and
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  Speaker 4: the Rams just aren't going to waltz to a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: Yomi, what do you think of the matchup on Sunday, Panthers-Bears?
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  Speaker 5: You gave us your thoughts on the Panthers. What do
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  Speaker 5: you think of the Bears both in this game and
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  Speaker 5: this year? Feels like a pretty lopsided team when you
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  Speaker 5: look at their offense compared to what their defense has
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Don't you find the spread to be funky? Like bears
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  Speaker 4: are only a three point favorite. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: They're on the road.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that number would have been greater. So maybe
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  Speaker 4: there's a chance for, for the Panthers in this game.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe it's like a 30 to 27 high scoring
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  Speaker 4: type of game between Bryce young and Caleb Williams. I
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  Speaker 4: guess I'll take the bears, but man, I'll tell you,
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  Speaker 4: I want the Panthers to win this weekend because I
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  Speaker 4: do not like Ben Johnson. Like I will spite watch
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson all throughout the season with his arrogance.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of the whole, we don't just
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  Speaker 1: want to win the Super Bowl, we want to win
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  Speaker 1: every game, and we want to score the most points
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  Speaker 1: in NFL history?
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  Speaker 3: How did that hit.
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  Speaker 5: You?
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson said that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he said it this offseason. That adds on to
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  Speaker 1: the arrogance that he showed last year, Gelby.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to be Timothee Chalamet, all right?
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  Speaker 4: How about you have a 4,000-yard pass, all right, Ben?
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  Speaker 1: Seriously, they still are trying to check that box in
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  Speaker 1: franchise history.
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  Speaker 5: When you hear about the Bears, you would think they're
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  Speaker 5: on a Seattle Rams, NFC West level, but it's like,
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  Speaker 5: you got a ways to go here, guys.
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  Speaker 4: You know what it reminds me of? It reminds me
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  Speaker 4: of the lines and Ben Johnson's cut from the dang
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  Speaker 4: Dan Campbell cloth. Like it's been so miserable in Chicago
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  Speaker 4: for so long that you got to kind of say
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  Speaker 4: outrageous things to get everyone just believing that the coach
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  Speaker 4: is a psycho and a maniac. And they just like
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  Speaker 4: blindly support him and it's worked to his credit. uh,
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  Speaker 4: goes in year one, uh, get to the second round
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  Speaker 4: of the playoffs that they could have actually won that second, uh,
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  Speaker 4: round game. If he didn't get so conservative, uh, up
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  Speaker 4: against the Rams and maybe they would have been in
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  Speaker 4: that NFC championship game or dare I say at the Superbowl, but, uh,
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  Speaker 4: let's see, uh, from year two to year three, if
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  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams could show consistency because, uh, last year, man,
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  Speaker 4: he really did turn the narrative, which was a disappointing
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  Speaker 4: year one. He turned it around a year or two,
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  Speaker 4: but I look at that defense, uh, Um, it wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: surprise me. I think this is still going to be
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  Speaker 4: a big story. Max Crosby from now to the deadline. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to have to give up two first
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  Speaker 4: round picks, uh, like because of the whole Raven situation,
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  Speaker 4: but one first round pick and something else, maybe the
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  Speaker 4: bears get in the mix for that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cause there is, uh, on the other side of Montez sweat,
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about it. It, there is a lack of
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  Speaker 1: studs in the pass rush game outside of him. Gelby,
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  Speaker 1: down the road in South Carolina, Dabo Sweeney has been
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  Speaker 1: having a rough one.
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  Speaker 2: My God, the national.
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  Speaker 4: From one arrogant man to the next.
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  Speaker 1: We had a feeling Gelby would want to jump in
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  Speaker 1: on the Dabo stuff. I mean, dude, that was so
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  Speaker 1: brutal and so embarrassing. How do you feel, like, Feinbaum
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  Speaker 1: had the report yesterday that he is hearing that the
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  Speaker 1: athletic department is basically been given, the AD has basically
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  Speaker 1: been given to go ahead to get us a list,
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  Speaker 1: put a list together of guys that could replace Dabo.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think, like, is that where you think this
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  Speaker 2: should head?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it's going to, I think it should,
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  Speaker 4: but it's $ 57 million in the buyout. If you fire
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  Speaker 4: him in season, it goes to 60 after the season.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't think Clemson's going to pay that. The
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  Speaker 4: three names I'll give you. I love Charles Huff. I
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  Speaker 4: took Memphis to make the playoffs before the year started.
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  Speaker 4: I also liked Spencer Danielson at Boise state. Uh, dabble
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  Speaker 4: actually surprised Danielson this year at Boise state was just
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  Speaker 4: in town, showed up and went to one of his meetings. Um,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe the former, uh, Clemson offensive coordinator in Tony Elliott,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not surprising what what's happened. Like in 2022,
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  Speaker 4: I was questioning dabble and I got eviscerated on Clemson
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  Speaker 4: messenger boards and how I ended up being a hundred percent. Right.
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  Speaker 4: But you look at the last four years to open
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  Speaker 4: up the season, they lost the Duke 28 to seven.
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  Speaker 4: Then they got blown out by Georgia 34 to three.
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  Speaker 4: Last year, they lost to LSU 17 to 10. And
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  Speaker 4: then this year they lost to LSU by a score
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  Speaker 4: of 51 to 10. It's adapt or die. And dab
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  Speaker 4: has just been so stubborn in this new era of
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  Speaker 4: college football. So no one should be surprised what we've
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  Speaker 4: been seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they are, they used to be at that
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  Speaker 1: level with the best with Alabama, right?
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  Speaker 4: Eye to eye.
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  Speaker 2: And now you see the difference. It is startling.
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  Speaker 4: They can't even compete to win the ACC now. I
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  Speaker 4: think they've won it like twice in the last five years. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, going into this year, I didn't think of
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  Speaker 4: Clemson to win the ACC. It was clearly Miami. Then
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  Speaker 4: if you said Miami couldn't get there with SMU and
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  Speaker 4: Louisville and Virginia's done a nice job. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're not even competing. Just that was my big debate.
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  Speaker 4: I got into this debate with Isaiah Simmons. a few
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  Speaker 4: years ago, I said to him, I go, dad was
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  Speaker 4: no longer great. And he goes, how can you say
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  Speaker 4: that the guys went to national championships? I go, well,
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  Speaker 4: because that's no longer the standard at Clemson to win
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  Speaker 4: national championships, just to win the ACC. And now we
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  Speaker 4: don't even expect them to win the ACC.
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  Speaker 1: Look at Galby going after Panther special teams.
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  Speaker 3: It's a tough conference to win. Galby. There's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of teams at that conference.
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  Speaker 2: Only the mighty Duke blue devils could emerge last year.
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  Speaker 5: I like how you acknowledge, thank you, Gelby, for acknowledging
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  Speaker 5: that the downfall of Dabo started because the Duke Blue
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  Speaker 5: Devils destroyed him on Labor Day night.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Gelby.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: And Duke, we only acknowledge them in football in this
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  Speaker 4: area because UNC football, even after getting that victory up
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  Speaker 4: against TCU, woof.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's the first Galby Wolf of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, at least they'll be good.
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  Speaker 1: Things are going well off the field here in chapel
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  Speaker 1: hill for UNC.
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  Speaker 3: At least that's good. All right, brother.
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  Speaker 4:
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  Speaker 4:
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  Speaker 4:
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  Speaker 4:
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  Speaker 4:
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  Speaker 4: a creep and God knows what
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  Speaker 4: Steve Belichick's doing. I know, man.
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  Speaker 3: It's ugly.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 3: All right, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you back. We appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: spending some time with us, dude. Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 3: What's that?
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  Speaker 4: No mention of my Temple Owls going up against your
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: Penn State Indy Lions this week?
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  Speaker 3: He's very confident right now. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Campbell. What a debut for Rocco and Campbell, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling good.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're making the playoff this year.
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  Speaker 2: With that schedule? I think they got a shot, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Temple should be in the playoff right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Temple. I'll get out of here with that.
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  Speaker 3: Get out of here. I'm talking about Penn State.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about Penn State.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Matt rules.
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  Speaker 1: Unless Matt rules in the visitor's locker room giving that
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  Speaker 1: pep talk, all right? I don't think Temple can beat us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 4: I was on the call for that in 2015 when
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  Speaker 4: Temple knocked off Penn State for the first time in
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  Speaker 4: 74 years. And also they sacked Christian Hackenberg 10 times
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  Speaker 4: in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, they were all over, and that was embarrassing. All right, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening this week. All right, Gelby,
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  Speaker 1: be good. We'll talk to you next Friday, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Football's back, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.