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Living in the Simulation · Pop Culture Junkie®

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(laughing)
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Absolutely.
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And for this episode, we're talking the history,
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the wild lore, how we play, what's next,
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and even that mysterious upcoming Sims movie buckle up
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because we're about to get pixelated.
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So I wanna rewind a minute.
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We're here today to talk about the Sims.
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- The greatest video game of all time.
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- Yes, the best game of all time.
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- Yes.
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- The Sims dropped in the 2000s created by Will Wright.
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It started as SimCity, which we all know and love,
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which was really ultimately inspired by architecture,
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urban planning, murdering people on a roller coaster.
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- You say that's the only thing I remember about SimCity
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is I think playing it in like the computer lab in school
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and just murdering people on a roller coaster.
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- Mass murder via roller coasters.
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- Is that the same thing?
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- Yes.
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- Roller coaster tycoon or those two different games.
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- I think they were like somewhat like the expansion
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packs of Sims that we have today.
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- So I think it was an okay.
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- Yeah, it was like, yeah.
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So Sims City and then you had all of these offshoots.
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I always think about how you were just like
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continuously cleaning up vomit.
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(laughing)
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- Oh my God, I forgot about that.
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- Yeah, right.
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- It was too scary. - Right, you were like,
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you were like, I wasn't cleaning up the vomit.
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- They were living with it.
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- But they looked stew in their own juices.
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They're gonna die anyway.
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(laughing)
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- Yeah, it's like they weren't really living with it.
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They were dying with it.
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But ultimately the Sims became one of the best
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selling PC franchises ever.
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We've had tons of Sims games.
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We started with the Sims one.
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Today we're on Sims four and endless expansion packs.
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We have hot day, making magic, pets, university,
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get famous.
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There's like fairy lands now.
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It's honestly anything and everything you can dream of.
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- There's kind of like a Harry Potter one.
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I think Star Wars one.
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I have the seasons which I really like
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because then it actually snows and gets hot
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and there's holidays and all of these little stuff packs
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you can buy too.
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So there's a Gothic stuff pack,
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an emo stuff pack that you can add to their furniture
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and their outfits.
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This game has taken so much of my money.
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(laughing)
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- And all of these versions get more and more complex.
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You start with basic needs and furniture
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to fill on multitasking emotions, lifestyles.
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- Yes.
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- More popular now are these mods as well.
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And it's actually not something you can buy
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but it's things you can find on Reddit and the internet
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where you can actually alter the code of your game
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and change it where you can do delinquent things.
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Shana actually taught me about this.
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One of the more popular ones.
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- Did I really?
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- Did I really?
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- Yeah, I never heard of it.
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- Oh my God.
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Okay, that's my favorite one.
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You download Wicked Wins.
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And honestly, I love playing with the mods
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but sometimes you spend more time fixing your mods.
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So I sit down and I'm like, I'm gonna play the Sims
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and anytime there's an update, you have to reinstall
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all of your mods.
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So it takes like 45 minutes and then finally at that point,
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I was like, yeah, fuck this, I don't wanna play anymore.
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(laughs)
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- Wicked Wins instead of doing woo-hoo,
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your Sims actually have intercourse.
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- There's no blurring here.
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- There is no blurring.
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- They are nude.
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There are lots of different positions.
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You can have multiple partners at once.
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They can do it in different places.
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You can put on how shy your Sims are with the Wicked Wins
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or like how, I don't know if they're gonna do it in public
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and at one point I had that totally turned off.
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And my Sims went on a date to the McDonald's
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and we're just like going at it in the middle
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of the McDonald's and then someone else jumped in
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and I was like, oh my God, you guys.
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- Orgy party at McDonald's, you know?
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- Just vile, just on that floor.
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It's just too sticky.
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Just,
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but yes, I do love my Wicked Wins.
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There's also extreme violence
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where your Sims can all murder each other violently
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and there's blood and all that.
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And then base mental drugs.
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So you can have your Sims use the Pop Culture Junkie podcast
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is not condone, illicit drug use.
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- We do.
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Unless.
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- To deal with the age of eighties.
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- There you go.
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- There you go.
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- Yeah.
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- And then you go on for alcohol though.
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- It's like what's the legal age to do a lot of cocaine
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because that's what my Sims are doing.
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Growing a ton of weed, just railing lines.
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They're all coke dealers.
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But then if you deal drugs in public,
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the cops can come and arrest you
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and you have to spend the night in jail.
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And then they just want,
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yeah, one cop will just walk up to you
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and be like, you're a runner or a rush for drugs.
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And you're like, oh, me.
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- I like how the people who created the mods
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were like, you know what?
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We need some consequences one day.
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- Yeah, I'm just, yeah.
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You spend one day, but then they clear out your stash.
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So they take all of your drugs.
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So that kind of sucks.
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And then you have to go to court, I don't know.
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It's kind of in depth.
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So.
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(laughing)
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- Drugs are bad, even though the drugs are bad.
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- Drugs bad, okay.
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- Okay.
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- Okay.
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- But yes, I love my mods.
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I love making Olivia naked in the mods.
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- Oh yeah, who doesn't?
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- In real life.
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And in the Sims universe.
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And the Sims is ultimately captured so much
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of people's attention since the 2000s.
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In 2014, we got the Sims 4, which is still kicking
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with us.
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One of the things that EA Games changed is they actually
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made the Sims 4 free.
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And the way that they make money now is through
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those expansion packs.
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And if you are still a Sims player in 2025,
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you are bought in, you're buying those expansion packs.
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- Oh yeah.
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- You really want it.
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And so they use this strategy of making the Sims free
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and they get you hooked, you know, just like that drug.
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They ultimately really keep you coming back for more.
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And most of us know the Sims as us playing it,
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creating our own characters, designing our own homes.
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But the Sims itself actually has some crazy lore
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within it and different families, different players
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that whenever you join the game,
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they will exist within Sims City
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or whenever you do join the Sims.
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You'll see these existing characters.
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And what we wanted to do today is dive into those iconic Sims
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that we've seen throughout all the different versions
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from the story of looking at you, baby.
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- Yes, Shana.
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- Shana's, you know, fantasized about him, for sure.
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- I have.
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- And it's good looking at him.
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- Some of them have persisted through many versions
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of the games, some of them have changed.
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And so we're gonna get started and dive into
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the different families that we meet within the Sims
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'cause just like your neighborhood.
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- There's some juicy gods.
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- There is juicy hot gods.
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So first we have the Goth family.
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They are the crown jewel of the Sims drama.
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Mortimer, Bella, Cassandra, and Alexander Goth.
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So they are the most iconic and mysterious family
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in the Sims universe.
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They've appeared in every single Sims game
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and each version tells a slightly different story about them.
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So in the Sims one, the Goths are very wealthy
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and spooky, kind of giving like Adam's family vibes to me.
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- They have the graves in their backyard with ghosts, right?
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- Yes, I think so.
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I played Sims one.
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I didn't play two or three.
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So I played one back in the day and I played four now.
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- Fig fan.
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- Yes, I know.
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I couldn't afford it.
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- But now I can't because you know, I don't,
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adult money and it's free.
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(laughing)
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- In Sims one, the Goths are wealthy and spooky.
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Bella is alive and well.
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In Sims two, things get a little weird and Bella is missing.
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She vanishes under suspicious circumstances
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and no one knows where she is.
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You can find her in strange town,
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but she has no memory of the Goths
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or being part of the family.
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So at this point, it's heavily implied
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that she was abducted by aliens
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and her last location is at the Calleant A. Sister's house
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who have those alien connections
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that we'll get to in a minute.
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Mortimer is now older in Sims four and trying to move on.
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Cassandra is engaged to Don Lothario, little playboy.
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We'll see all that goes.
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And Alexander's just a kid.
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He's just a little Goth kid.
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So the fan theory about the Goth family,
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again, is that Bella was abducted by aliens,
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but it was because she was getting too close to the truth
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behind the Calleant A's and their alien bloodline.
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So they took her over to silence her.
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And I love this.
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And I love the last names in this are so on the nose.
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It's so funny.
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Like my favorite that we'll get to is the land grab family.
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Like it's just so on the nose and I love it so much.
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But yes, I love the Goths.
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I think there's still a live in my game.
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I had aging turned on for a while,
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except for my households didn't age.
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But then that kind of sad.
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Bella is alive in my game, but she's just elderly.
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That's it.
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She's elderly.
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So then I ended up turning it off for everyone
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because I didn't want everyone else to get old and die.
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You're like, I can't keep up with all these new people coming in.
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Literally, oh, there's so many new townies in my game now
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because I think the OG characters have all kind of gotten
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old and died, unfortunately, but like their ghosts
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are just kind of floating around.
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Malcolm Langegrabbs ghost floats around my town
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and not man screws anything that moves.
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That man's going to ghost.
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Oh, he's a horse.
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He's a horny little ghost.
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He's a horny little ghost.
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And next we have the Caliente sisters
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who are really wrapped up within the Goth family.
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Most people refer to them as gold diggers with alien DNA.
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And it is Nina and Dina Caliente.
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They are closest to Caliente.
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They are closest to Don Lathario, Mortimer Goth, and Bella Goth.
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So Nina and Dina are twins, but fans have always
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kind of called out that they don't actually look alike.
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And most people speculate because they
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are half aliens.
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Now stick with me.
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In The Sims 2--
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I'm here with you.
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I'm here with you.
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In The Sims 2, they live with Don Lathario
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and are trying to deduce Mortimer Goth, who
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is a newly widowed older man.
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And in The Sims 2, part of the game
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that you have to play the main characters,
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like The Sims Created Characters, to get to.
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And it is called Strange Town.
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And when you go there, there is a lot of alien things happening.
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And so that's really why they think
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that Bella was abducted by aliens.
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So I think if you go to Strange Town,
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you actually can meet an alien.
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And there's flying saucers and things like that.
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And it does say that Bella was in Strange Town,
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but she doesn't remember her family.
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Would Bella and Mortimer or Mary to each other, right?
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Yes.
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OK.
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Got it.
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So yes, he is a widow or he thinks he's a widow in Sims 2
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because his wife is missing.
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Which is Bella, who's in Strange Town.
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Deena has possibly already married and buried
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a rich husband before.
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Who has a widow?
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We love a black widow.
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We love a black widow.
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And so many of my Sims have just--
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I'll create a man just for him to die.
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Just for him to die.
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And one thing that we didn't necessarily
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mention about the Goth family is they are rich.
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When you go into the game, you always
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want to play the Goth family because they have this mansion
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and everyone else has a middle class family home.
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Unless you're the land grabs.
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Yes, yeah.
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They are the Goths 2.0.
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And so ultimately, Deena and Nina
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are really these kind of gold diggers.
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Like I said at the beginning.
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And they are seen as these nefarious women who
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helped get Bella Goth got and ultimately are--
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Bella got got got got got got got.
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Ultimately are part of the plan on the night
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that she disappeared.
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And so the family and the fan theory around them
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is that the family and they were sent by aliens
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to infiltrate the Sims society.
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Obviously.
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Deena's pursuit of Mortimer was to secure the Goth family
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wealth for whatever alien plan is underway.
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And so what do aliens need money?
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World domination.
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I mean, I guess I'm just thinking back
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to V our last episode that you should check out.
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And the aliens wanted more like resources.
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I don't know.
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Like what does an alien need with currency?
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What does an alien need with simlions?
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Isn't that what their money's called?
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Simlions?
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Yeah.
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Well, currency would get you things.
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And then things are like supplies, I guess.
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But--
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Materialistic aliens.
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Yes.
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As Scarface would say, first you get the money,
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then you get the power, then you get that girl.
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So maybe they're trying to make alien babies
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like they did with the county and two sisters.
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So they want to be rich so that they can be handsome
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and wantable by sim ladies to make sim babies
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to infiltrate simsiety.
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It goes all the way to the top.
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All the way to the top.
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We are back.
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And we are to my favorite character in favorite townie,
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Don Lothario, or as Olivia called him, the ultimate fuck
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boy.
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So Don Lothario's key traits are hot,
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shirtless and commitment phobic,
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kind of like my college ex boyfriend.
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Bono.
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He is engaged to Cassandra Goth,
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involved with Nina, Dina, and Bella.
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So Don Lothario is the messy king of sims too.
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He's got four romantic relationships going at once,
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unless you make him have relationships
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with your characters that you create, which he always wants
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to show up and do, because he's Don Lothario.
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He's engaged to Cassandra,
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but flirting with everyone else, including her mom,
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Bella, you dirty, dirty boy.
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I called Andrew Don Lothario at one point.
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I don't remember what he was doing.
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Did he get the reference?
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No, I think I need to break up with him.
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I was like, OK, Don Lothario.
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Divorced reason.
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He didn't know my sims reference.
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My sims reference.
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He's like, I'm sorry.
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What did you just call me?
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Anyway, I digress.
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Some fans think that he was working
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with the Calientes to lure Bella away.
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And in Sims 3, he shows up as a younger version of himself
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in Sunset Valley, which is a prequel.
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And we see how his drama got started.
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I didn't realize Sims 3 was a prequel,
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but I guess it's because I didn't play that.
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But that's kind of--
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The timeline kind of jumps around
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and you bring all these different ones, yeah.
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I like that.
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A fun fact about Don.
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His bio says he's quote, afraid of commitment,
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but can't resist a pretty face.
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Same, Don.
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Don and I have that in common.
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They say so.
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He's just your average Arizona state student.
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Got it.
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Perfect.
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Perfect.
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To the ASU of Sims City.
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Go Devils.
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There is also a Sims University pack,
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but I haven't downloaded it.
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I played that.
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I think I played it in Sims 3.
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Fun.
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I was in middle school, though.
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I mean, should not have been playing--
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I think that's a challenge.
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Yeah.
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I think that Sims 3 was--
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maybe it was Sims 2, but Sims 3, I think,
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is when you got the heart bed that could vibrate.
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Oh, Sims 1, I think we had the heart bed too,
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because I remember I Stephanie and I used to play--
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we would have sleepovers where we would just sit in whoever's
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parents house we were at, and their computer room
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would play the Sims for hours.
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And we would always make the kidding
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school that we had to crush on, because we
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had to crush on the same boy.
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And he'd be so hot and shirtless,
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and we would get in the vibrating bed with him.
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I love that.
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Together?
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No, only one at a time.
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Although we did download a hot date.
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And maybe it was Sims 2 now that I think about it,
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because I'm not sure if all these expansions
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packs were with Sims 1.
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I don't know.
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Somebody let us know in the comments.
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But I was like, oh, Stephanie and Shawn,
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I need to go and have a girls day.
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So they went on a hot date, and then it ended up
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falling in love at the end.
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And we were like, no, no.
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Restart, restart, because we were children.
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And therefore, oh, no.
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Shawn hadn't realized she was a bisexual then.
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I wasn't.
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Maybe that was my awakening.
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Maybe I was like, yeah.
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I kind of liked them.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Maybe I want to go on more hot dates with some ladies, anyway.
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[LAUGHTER]
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We have a couple more families.
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Yes.
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And then we have the pleasant family
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who are most known for their absolute suburban despair.
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And so the members of this family are Daniel, who's
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the dad, Mary Sue, the mother, Angela, the twin daughter,
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and Lilith, the twin daughter.
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They were probably the least fun to play with,
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mainly because they were pretty good.
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I remember playing with them.
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And I would always use--
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Oh, woo-hoo.
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They were poos, which in the Sims, that's no fun.
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You don't want to be poor in the Sims,
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Bernie porn real life.
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Oh, my God.
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I always make my character start poor.
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I like the Rags to Rich's Challenge,
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where they start with zero.
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And they have to like forage off of the land.
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And then eventually--
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Yeah, and they get a job with their phone.
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And then I have them shower at the gym
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and sleep in the library.
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And the challenge is to get from $0 to $1 million.
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Just--
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You're scraping by your bootstrap.
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They always end up dealing drugs.
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I make them all drug dealers.
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Every single day.
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Hi.
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Literally it.
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Rosebud Cheat, the second I get in there,
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because I want to be playing and building,
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and making the space by own.
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And all of the cheap furniture is ugly.
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They do that on purpose.
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But uncomfortable.
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And then all your Sims can play in that their backs
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or that their shower wasn't nice.
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And you're like, bro, you're using a--
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Just like an apple that you picked from the backyard
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as you're lunch.
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You're going to sleep in whatever bed we can afford.
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Yeah.
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And despite being poor, they are kind of the suburban, middle class,
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happy family.
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But there is a lot of tea going on within that family.
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So Daniel is cheating with the maid.
21:06
Mary Sue is a workaholic.
21:08
But she's about to get fired.
21:11
Angela is the golden child.
21:13
She's dating Dustin Brooke.
21:15
And Lilith is the rebel hated by her family
21:19
and possibly secretly in love with Angela's boyfriend.
21:22
So we get a little fun.
21:24
I have a question here.
21:25
Oh, never mind.
21:26
We're pleasant.
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OK.
21:28
Yeah.
21:28
The classic family.
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That pleasant.
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Not the brooks.
21:30
They're probably also poor.
21:32
OK.
21:32
Yeah.
21:33
I don't know why.
21:34
I would assume that the broke family are poor.
21:36
I may be mashing the two together, but in my mind.
21:40
But, you know, whatever.
21:42
Behind the white-picket fence family--
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so the theme of them is behind the white-picket fence,
21:49
this family is like straight, desperate house wives
21:53
energy.
21:54
And it's a little fun with the teenagers
21:58
kind of fighting over a man.
22:01
It's kind of like the younger version
22:03
of the Caliente sisters with Bella and the Goth family.
22:07
I love that.
22:08
You never know what lyrics behind your neighbor's front door.
22:13
My neighbor's too, because I'm naked in front of the window
22:16
a lot.
22:17
I'm definitely the naked neighbor.
22:19
Oh, I'm absolutely the naked neighbor.
22:20
Somehow, Sean, I has been the naked neighbor at my house.
22:24
And I've lived here for three months.
22:26
This woman was just walking around but naked.
22:29
And in front of these giant day windows,
22:31
I've lived here for--
22:32
Oh, forgot.
22:34
I still forgot.
22:35
But yeah, front neighbors and your back neighbors
22:37
have both seen me.
22:39
Can't help--
22:40
How I'm naked.
22:41
Like, yeah.
22:42
Oh, not a lick of clothing.
22:43
Not a lick of clothing.
22:45
Because why would I wear clothing at my friends' house?
22:48
It's my birthday.
22:49
I'm going to be naked anyway.
22:51
It's my birthday.
22:51
I need to be in my birthday soon.
22:53
I need to be in my birthday soon.
22:55
I need to party the way that I came into this world.
22:57
Nude and drunk.
23:00
Anyway, the broke family is next.
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Brandy broke, Dustin broke, and the unborn baby broke.
23:06
Brandy is widowed or has been skipped broke,
23:11
died under mysterious circumstances.
23:13
Some say it is that ever dreaded pool ladder removal.
23:18
They have this fun little Easter egg in the Sims now
23:21
where your Sim Awika from a bad dream.
23:23
And it'll say what their dream was.
23:25
And they're like, Sean had dreamt about drowning
23:27
inside of a pool that had no ladder.
23:29
That's crazy.
23:30
Why didn't she just hop off the side?
23:32
(laughs)
23:33
They're self-aware and we love it.
23:35
Okay, so Brandy is widowed, pregnant, broke,
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trying to raise two kids alone,
23:40
Dustin's in trouble with the law.
23:42
Some fans think that skipped broke, didn't die,
23:45
but faked his own death because, you know,
23:47
he's running away from someone or something.
23:51
Maybe the--
23:52
♪ Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't ♪
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The responsibility's a fatherhood or aliens.
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It's one of the other.
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- It's one of the other.
23:59
- He's running away from that broke-ass baby.
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- That unborn broke baby.
24:03
- No one wants a broke-ass baby, shit.
24:05
My baby's gone.
24:06
- Come on, Roach.
24:07
(laughs)
24:08
- And we mentioned Strange Town.
24:10
I did want to kind of go into a little bit further
24:14
of the characters that we see within that.
24:17
It's kind of known as the X-Files of the Sims.
24:20
And so we have Belagoth, which we've mentioned a lot.
24:24
The nervous subject, the beakers, the grunts,
24:27
and of course our elusive aliens.
24:30
So this neighborhood is filled with a bunch of weirdos.
24:33
There's government experiments that went wrong,
24:36
alien abductions, and even hybrid babies.
24:39
So nervous subject is literally being experimented
24:43
on by the beaker family.
24:45
The grunt family is a military unit fighting alien influence,
24:50
but even their son gets abducted and impregnated.
24:54
- Oh, God, Jesus Christ.
24:56
It's getting dark.
24:58
And like we mentioned, Bella is there,
25:00
but you can't remember anything.
25:01
So Strange Town is very fun.
25:04
And that's only in Sims 2.
25:06
- Yeah, Sully would love to go there.
25:10
- The truth is in Strange Town.
25:12
(dramatic music)
25:15
- So the land grab family as their name might imply
25:20
are greedy, powerful, and possibly evil.
25:25
So the members are Malcolm Land Grab, Nancy,
25:28
Jeffrey, and Baby Malcolm Jr. in some of the games.
25:32
So think ultra rich, ultra violent.
25:35
I almost said ultra violent.
25:37
Isn't that a Lana Del Rey record?
25:39
- Yeah.
25:40
(laughing)
25:41
- They are not Lana Del Rey.
25:42
They are Trump.
25:43
(laughing)
25:46
Like Trump family mixed with bond villains.
25:49
Nancy is a criminal, Jeffrey is in politics,
25:52
and Malcolm's just kind of a spoiled brat.
25:54
And Sims 4, they own most of the town.
25:58
So whenever you pay your bills,
26:01
like the electric bill it goes to the land grab electric company.
26:04
And they can shut off your power.
26:06
And I've always noticed it says,
26:08
you have 24 hours to pay your bill
26:10
before your electricity shut off.
26:11
And then it's like immediately right then.
26:13
They're like, "Just kidding.
26:15
"Shut down, shut down."
26:18
But yes, in my game,
26:19
I kinda turned the land grabs into that aristocrats joke.
26:24
- Oh, you made a man's test?
26:25
- Yeah, I made them a little like white Lotus season three,
26:29
the brother action going on.
26:31
- I love that.
26:32
- So they're all just high out of their minds
26:35
and just doing unpleasant things with each other.
26:37
And then they all die.
26:38
- Doing their family members.
26:39
- They're all doing each other and then they die.
26:41
Yeah, so they're all dead as they say.
26:44
- I think so.
26:45
(laughing)
26:46
- They're all dead in some incest orgy drug-fueled evening.
26:51
But yeah, Malcolm Leagrab, his evil ghost floats around still.
26:55
- I love that.
26:56
I love that.
26:57
Yeah, eat the ridge, eat the ridge and Shana's game.
27:00
And I can go through each other a little too literally.
27:03
- It was very long then.
27:04
(laughing)
27:06
- And so as we've kinda gone through this,
27:09
you're probably like, wait, what's the order of the games?
27:12
It's almost like the Marvel universe.
27:14
Like this one goes here.
27:15
They are not, Sims 1 does not happen first.
27:18
All those things, right?
27:19
So Sims 3 is technically a prequel.
27:23
So like we mentioned, you see younger versions of characters,
27:26
including a teen fellow, a young Mortimer,
27:29
and an early Don Litharium.
27:31
- Sexy.
27:32
- Sims 2 is in the middle where a lot of the drama happens
27:37
when they first become adults.
27:39
And ultimately we get to see a lot of the key lore
27:44
that we've been discussing throughout this.
27:47
Sims 4 is technically an alternate universe.
27:51
I did not know that.
27:52
That's interesting.
27:53
- And the game creator, Maxis, said that it's a parallel timeline.
27:59
So events don't match up in the same way.
28:02
So ultimately like a multiverse.
28:05
- Yes, it's definitely Marvel.
28:06
- It's just definitely interesting.
28:07
- Yeah, right.
28:08
And there's no official chronological order
28:11
that makes 100% sense.
28:14
They were having a silly goofy time
28:16
when they were making up these things.
28:18
And that's part of the fun.
28:19
It's like a glitchy multiverse.
28:21
And really the Sims has so much lore.
28:25
Like a lot of us do just play our own characters,
28:28
but I would encourage you to play around with the families.
28:32
There's a lot of fun.
28:33
You can find things like Strange Town when you do that.
28:36
And ultimately kind of play your own characters
28:40
and theirs as well, because there's quite a bit of fun.
28:44
- I like that.
28:45
I think I'm gonna start doing that
28:46
because I always just kind of play with my own.
28:48
- All right.
28:49
So we've talked a lot about the lore.
28:50
Shana, let's tell the listeners how you like to play the Sims
28:55
and they can call you a psychopath as well.
28:58
(laughing)
29:00
- Well, I already said that I made the entire
29:01
Land Grab family incestuous homicide.
29:05
Also known as murderers.
29:07
Homicide Ill-Maniac was where I was going with my mind.
29:10
- Okay.
29:11
- So they're all disgusting.
29:13
For the most part though, I make, so I have Shana and Andrew
29:18
and they live in this huge mansion
29:20
and they have Buffy and Toast
29:21
and they are ripped out of their minds and wealthy
29:25
and maxed out on all of their skills.
29:28
So I stopped playing them as much,
29:31
even though they still exist in the town.
29:33
- Was that after I told you you were insane
29:36
for only playing you in your husband?
29:37
- No.
29:38
So I have, oh yeah, in the Sims,
29:41
Shana and Andrew are always just with each other.
29:42
They don't play around, no.
29:45
But they have friends who are the entire cast
29:50
of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
29:51
I have all of sex in the city and there,
29:54
I have the Adams family, I have Elvira,
29:57
I have Olivia.
30:01
So there's a cute little Olivia.
30:03
Oh, she lives with Lady Gaga
30:05
and my friends Heather and Jessica.
30:07
So I've made a lot of the people that I know.
30:10
So I kind of, and then I make randoms too,
30:13
if I'm just like, oh, I wanna play the doctor career,
30:15
then I'll just make up like a random person
30:17
and play the doctor career.
30:19
I never find myself playing as men,
30:23
unless it's, if I'm playing as Andrew
30:27
or if I'm playing as like Spike in the Buffy house.
30:31
But if I'm just like, oh, I'm gonna play the Rags to Riches,
30:33
I'm gonna make a girl.
30:35
- Okay, obvious.
30:36
- Gender fluid king Spike.
30:39
- Oh yeah, yep, I definitely play some Spike
30:41
and he is with Buffy, but he also kinda,
30:44
he gets around because he doesn't wanna,
30:46
look, I was Spike.
30:48
I should make him an Olivia hookup.
30:49
I think that'd be good for you.
30:51
- The fact that you haven't, rude.
30:53
- I know, I'm sorry.
30:54
You just hooked up with that guy in the bar.
30:56
Oh, and then I also, I made the bar that I worked at.
31:00
This is what Olivia thinks I'm Psycho for.
31:02
(laughs)
31:03
So when I worked at a bar how I met Olivia,
31:06
I made the bar in the Sims game and Shawna and Olivia,
31:11
which is go to the bar together and hang out,
31:14
which is essentially what you and I were doing.
31:18
- Yeah, so I'd be like, I'm gonna go home,
31:20
and play the Sims and then I would just make the Sims do
31:23
what we just did.
31:25
- It was so crazy.
31:26
Like, okay, so she's making it sound like she plays this game
31:30
so much more diverse than she does.
31:33
She may actually have these people.
31:35
- I do, I do, I do.
31:37
- But, so Shawna and I are talking about the Sims
31:40
and she's like, I ask a question,
31:42
so how do you play the Sims?
31:43
I love asking people this because I think it's like
31:46
really illuminating.
31:47
Like, how do you play the Sims?
31:48
Do you play yourself?
31:49
Do you play other characters and create other characters?
31:54
Or are you just like, I don't even wanna play the characters.
31:57
I just wanna like interior design and build my own Sims.
32:00
- Yeah, oh that's fair, yeah.
32:01
- And Shawna's like, oh, I play myself.
32:03
And like, Andrew and I are the only two people together
32:06
and I made the casual pint and she has her life
32:10
and does the exact same things in the cat and our dog.
32:14
- I mean, they have better jobs than we have.
32:17
- Yeah, yeah, but you still didn't even give them Rosebud.
32:20
It's the crazy thing.
32:22
Like, you know, they had to work for their money.
32:24
- In saying, like crazy.
32:27
And so if you can't tell by my reaction to this,
32:30
I am almost always playing other people.
32:33
I like to play some of the stock characters,
32:35
but a lot of the time I like to build like a super hot person.
32:40
- You never make an Olivia?
32:42
- I've made an Olivia.
32:43
Like, when I was younger, I would make up like
32:46
older versions of me.
32:48
- Okay.
32:49
- That would really ever play me as an adult.
32:52
- Interesting.
32:53
I've said you the Olivia that I made.
32:55
I'm really proud of her.
32:56
I think she's my friend character that I've made
32:58
that looks the most like one of my friends.
33:00
- Yeah, no, posted on the Instagram, that's great.
33:02
- Yeah, I need to post me and you hanging out on the Sims
33:05
on our Instagram so people can agree or disagree to us.
33:08
Like us. - Yeah.
33:09
- How much does this look like us?
33:10
- Yes.
33:10
- And one time I was like,
33:11
"Shana, you need to be manifesting me,
33:14
"hooking up with a man or finding a man in the Sims."
33:18
And so she goes, "Okay, I'm gonna do that.
33:22
"Makes me hook up with this guy in the casual pint bathroom,
33:26
"the bar that we hang out with."
33:27
- "Minsroom."
33:29
- "In the men's room with a man with a blue mohawk."
33:32
- It was a green mohawk.
33:34
- Okay, okay, very important distinction.
33:36
- So Olivia, yes, hooked up with a guy with a green mohawk
33:39
in the men's room of the bar.
33:40
And so I sent her like a picture of it in my phone
33:43
on Snapchat and I was like,
33:44
"Look, I got you a male suitor on the Sims."
33:48
Just like you asked and she was like,
33:49
"That's disgusting never to begin or at least make it seem."
33:54
- I think you also take me on a pregnant.
33:57
- He did, he got you pregnant
33:59
and I also have an abortion mod.
34:02
- So don't let Shana do manifesting for you,
34:09
especially in the Sims,
34:11
'cause she's gonna go really weird with it
34:13
unless it's her own character.
34:15
She's like, "Evaly sabotaging me via her Sims plan."
34:20
- Oh no, Sim Shana has gotten like 15 abortions.
34:25
- Well, only one off from regular Shana, you know?
34:28
- That's true.
34:29
- No, I'm at 14 now.
34:30
God, we're going off the rails here.
34:35
So we both play in different ways,
34:36
but also kind of similar ways.
34:38
- Yes, I like it.
34:39
- I think it's funny.
34:41
What's your design aesthetic within the Sims?
34:45
- Oh, it varies so drastically from person to person.
34:49
So I made all of the sex in the city girls
34:53
live together and each of their rooms is very distinct to them.
34:56
Oh, I made the spice girls too.
34:58
And they live in this huge mansion and so each room,
35:01
I had fun customizing scary, sporty,
35:03
posh baby ginger.
35:05
Shana and Andrews is very mid-century modern in the desert
35:10
which is also our house.
35:13
I know.
35:13
- I heard time you tell me more about this character,
35:17
like these characters.
35:18
You, I'm like, "Why are you doing?"
35:21
- It's unique.
35:22
- But upgraded, it's Miba, upgrade it.
35:25
- Is it?
35:26
- Baby a little up.
35:26
- She's got a six pack.
35:29
- She's got a six pack.
35:29
- Like she's shredded out of her mind.
35:34
- Her husband's a professional athlete.
35:36
- Crisis, crazy person.
35:38
- But yeah, other people's houses,
35:39
I have like one boho chic house.
35:42
I made Bulma and Vegeta from Dragon Ball.
35:45
And so I made like the lab that they live
35:47
and work and train at in there.
35:49
So it really is, it depends on the character,
35:51
I guess is what I'm trying to say.
35:52
- What about you?
35:53
- Okay.
35:54
- I think that's probably like the one place
35:58
that I really play in the way that I would like it.
36:03
Like what would be like a dream home?
36:05
Like if you went into my Pinterest board
36:07
of all these like crazy different homes
36:10
that I could absolutely never afford.
36:13
Like that's what I'm making in the Sims.
36:15
But a lot of it's like very colorful, very
36:18
or Nate I guess.
36:21
So, but that's why I always need to do the rosebud
36:23
cheat just straight out the gate
36:25
because I've got the most expensive furniture.
36:28
I'm customized in things.
36:29
They're comfortable.
36:31
Oh my God, we have like a sauna and a home gym.
36:34
Like everything that you could imagine
36:36
that you want in your house.
36:38
I love that.
36:39
- Yeah.
36:39
And I think if there's one common thread among,
36:42
I've asked a ton of people this question
36:45
of how do you put the Sims do you play yourself?
36:47
What do you do within it?
36:49
If there is one common thread,
36:51
everyone is murdering people in the Sims.
36:55
- Oh, and you're not murdering people
36:56
or are you even playing the Sims?
36:59
- Exactly.
37:00
And so I'm like, what does that say about us?
37:02
Like the second we get these little controllable characters,
37:05
we want to just start murdering people.
37:07
And I think that really gives me like old testament God.
37:11
- Yeah.
37:12
- Yeah.
37:13
And they become like self-aware in Sims 4 though.
37:16
There's this recent update at least in the last two years
37:19
where they go like it'll say,
37:21
"Oh, Olivia, I can't help shake the feeling
37:24
that there's some overarching power
37:26
that's controlling her every whim.
37:28
Will she ever be in control?"
37:30
And they get like really anxious.
37:33
And every time that pops up I'm like,
37:34
"No, you won't be."
37:36
- That's so funny.
37:37
- I like that.
37:38
- I like the more simulation, simulation
37:40
during the time it becomes real.
37:42
Oh my God.
37:43
- With the games.
37:45
- Simulation.
37:46
- Poo.
37:48
- My mind is blown.
37:51
(laughing)
37:52
- Blown.
37:53
- And there's so much great things about the Sims.
37:58
And I think really that is why the Sims has stuck around
38:03
for so long is really we've seen it evolve in iterate
38:08
and the way that people play with it.
38:10
There's expansion packs, there's modifications
38:14
where we're crowdsourcing the Sims development ultimately.
38:19
And there's just so much fun.
38:20
- Right, and they listen to the fans.
38:22
They just brought back the robber who wasn't in Sims 4.
38:26
But everyone remembers that robber
38:27
from the first games where that creepies it comes on.
38:31
And they like, you get so scared.
38:33
- I haven't played in, gosh, it's been at least two months now.
38:37
So I need to get back on and get my new computer.
38:40
- The computer that I play with Sims on
38:42
is literally my college computer.
38:44
- Oh no, that thing's running.
38:47
- Yeah, it literally, yeah, it makes so much noise.
38:51
I'm like, is this the finished problem?
38:53
- Probably.
38:54
- So it's like you download too many mods
38:56
and it's just like, and it goes so slow.
38:59
- Yeah.
38:59
- The mods definitely broke it.
39:01
- Yeah.
39:02
- I need a new computer.
39:03
I keep debating like do a buy new computer
39:06
just so I can play the Sims, but probably.
39:09
- I think so.
39:10
- But and record this podcast.
39:12
- What are you waiting for?
39:14
- Yeah.
39:14
(laughing)
39:16
So the Sims 5 was in development for a very long time.
39:21
They were teasing it.
39:22
They were telling us that the Sims 5 is coming.
39:25
As of a couple months ago, they're actually canceled
39:29
the release of Sims 5.
39:32
And they're actually doing, let me actually get the proper name
39:36
'cause I was sending it.
39:37
So it's called the project.
39:38
- Yeah, project, I was calling it Reen,
39:40
but like R-E-N-E is--
39:44
- That's the idea.
39:45
- Reen or Reen.
39:46
- Reen, Renee, whatever.
39:48
So they canceled the Sims 5
39:50
and they're doing project Reen, Renee.
39:53
Right now, they have a small group of testers.
39:57
So people have actually seen what it looks like
40:00
within the project test group.
40:01
- Shell.
40:02
- I saw some screenshots within it.
40:05
And ultimately, the Sims games makers, E-A,
40:09
said that because so many people have bought
40:13
all of these expansion packs within the Sims 4,
40:17
if they went to Sims 5, people will lose all that.
40:20
They would really kind of disenfranchise
40:22
all those people who have been their most loyal customers
40:26
and kept that game so popular over time.
40:30
- A lot of people play legacy games too,
40:33
where I said I don't have my character's age.
40:37
They'll have two people who have grow up together,
40:41
have babies and then they die.
40:42
And then like, you know what I mean?
40:44
It's like bloodlines that carry on throughout the game.
40:47
So I could see that being really frustrating for them,
40:49
losing all of that.
40:50
- Yeah, so they ultimately ditched Sims 5.
40:54
And now they are making, you know, it seems like
40:57
we don't know too much,
40:58
but project Reen ultimately is a somewhat of an expansion
41:04
pack, but they have said that it will give you
41:07
multiplayer versions, so you can actually like,
41:10
Seanan, I can meet up, our characters can meet up.
41:13
- And get a drink at the casual pint.
41:16
- No.
41:17
- And have relations with a green Mohawk man?
41:21
- Yeah.
41:22
Well, I'm gonna make you have relations
41:23
with a green Mohawk man, so you can see what it's like.
41:27
- Okay, that's fair.
41:28
- Yeah.
41:28
- Twist my arm.
41:30
- Ugh.
41:30
- I guess.
41:31
- Yeah.
41:33
- And so if you had one wish for the game makers of the Sims,
41:38
I've been listening to too much hunker games
41:40
of the game makers of the Sims, what would you ask for?
41:43
Like if you could say I want to be able to do this
41:46
in the Sims, what would it be?
41:48
- I think exactly what you just said,
41:49
multiplayer Sims, like an open world multiplayer
41:52
would be insane.
41:54
Like RPG where we're all just hanging out together
41:57
and going like, you know, store to store.
42:00
Like Sean and Olivia start at the bar
42:03
and then they're taking shots together
42:05
and then they go shopping and then they go eat food.
42:07
You're like, that would be amazing.
42:09
Just like, I don't know, open player multiplayer kind of world,
42:13
open world multiplayer.
42:14
- Yeah, I would say I just asked one thing,
42:17
but since you're asking for buying one thing,
42:20
I can fully agree.
42:22
I want to be able to like go to your town
42:25
and sabotage your town even if you're not online.
42:28
Like I think that'd be so fun.
42:30
- That's messed up.
42:32
- I really want to be able to, you know,
42:35
mess with other people's towns and like go there
42:37
and do things kind of, I guess in animal crossings
42:41
you can't go mess with people's towns unless they're online,
42:44
but I do like that version of it.
42:46
But then I also want them to make the mods into real games
42:51
where it's not cool to you.
42:55
- Yeah, so just break your thing.
42:57
And you know what, I agree, like they already know
43:00
that most adults are downloading wicked whims, right?
43:03
And so make it an 18 plus pack or something somehow.
43:07
I don't know.
43:08
- Yeah, video games still do that, don't they?
43:10
- Yeah, and make us buy it.
43:12
- Right, like 'cause we'll buy it.
43:13
- We have Grand Theft Auto.
43:15
Like let's get GTA,
43:17
- Exactly.
43:18
- And some to have a baby.
43:19
I think that'd be so fun.
43:20
- Oh my god, that's awesome.
43:21
- Yeah, I really like the idea of those two things.
43:25
And hopefully we will see some of that with the Sims universe.
43:30
While Sean and I could go on for hours and hours
43:39
talking about the Sims,
43:40
if you can't tell, it's one of our passions.
43:43
We have spent hours talking about this
43:46
even outside of this podcast episode.
43:48
But one thing that was announced shortly after the Barbie movie,
43:53
which if you've never listened to our Barbie episode,
43:56
it's one of our most popular episodes of all time.
43:59
- Hi, Miss, we love the Barbie movie.
44:01
- We go really, really deep into the movie,
44:04
the Barbie universe as a whole, things around that.
44:08
And it's just a great listen if I do say so myself.
44:12
But as soon as I do say so, too yourself.
44:14
- Yeah, myself, you too.
44:16
- Yes, me, so you too say so.
44:18
(laughing)
44:20
And one of the things that was announced right after the Barbie movie
44:24
was that there was a Sims movie in the works
44:28
and Lucky Chap Entertainment was the one
44:31
who secured the rights.
44:33
Now if you're thinking Lucky Chap,
44:35
that sounds super familiar.
44:37
I wanted only our queen Margot Robbie got her hands
44:41
on the Sims movie.
44:43
I wanna hear your thoughts on the Sims movie.
44:47
We obviously just spent a lot of time on it,
44:49
but really quickly, Amazon and GM Studios
44:52
is involved in the production.
44:54
Katie Heron, who directed Loki.
44:58
- Katie Heron, it's Kate.
45:00
- For me, girls.
45:01
(laughing)
45:03
- Kate Heron, who directed Loki,
45:06
the TV series, which you're a big fan of.
45:10
- I am.
45:11
- Is going to co-write the screenplay
45:14
with Breonnie Redmond.
45:17
And so it is kind of interesting because
45:20
from what I know about Loki, it's a multiverse, right?
45:23
- It is.
45:25
I'm thinking the only thing.
45:26
First of all, I'm sus of this, right?
45:28
- Oh, really?
45:29
- I am, but having it involved with Margot Robbie
45:33
makes me feel more confident about it
45:35
because I do like her work.
45:36
I think she's very talented.
45:38
Barbie was amazing.
45:39
So that makes me feel a little better about it.
45:42
I do also hope that it doesn't fall into this trap
45:45
of the emoji movie and, oh gosh, angry birds movie.
45:50
And like every, you know what I'm trying to say?
45:54
Every little video game and every little thing
45:56
needs a movie now.
45:58
Minecraft movie.
45:59
And then there are always just trash money grabs.
46:03
But then, you know, bar fee, bar fee, the bar fee movie.
46:06
(laughing)
46:09
It's gonna be the sequel.
46:11
The Barbie movie.
46:15
I think it was mixing Buffy and Barbie.
46:17
- Yeah. - So I came out bar fee.
46:19
- It's okay, we know, we know.
46:21
- Barbie was good.
46:22
It was based off of a toy and it was very good.
46:24
The Ouija porn movies have been good.
46:26
But then they're making, I don't know,
46:29
there's some other, oh, the Lego movies have been good.
46:31
I don't know, it could be very hit and missed with me
46:33
when it comes to turning a toy or a video game
46:38
or something like that into a movie.
46:40
Do you know what I mean?
46:41
So I'm nervous, but I'm gonna watch it.
46:45
And I think the only way that they could go with it
46:47
is doing all of this stuff that we talked about
46:50
this whole episode, all of the lore.
46:52
- Yes, so I think it go a few ways.
46:55
I think that it could be all about simulation theory.
47:00
And like what I said, whatever we're just people
47:03
and like where the sims and God is playing us.
47:06
- Yes, ultimately, like that is such a common theory
47:10
and belief now.
47:12
Like when the Matrix came out, that was a crazy idea.
47:15
But then now you look at kind of like where we are today
47:19
and being in a simulation.
47:21
Like people are just going for a show.
47:23
- Yes, much more open to that kind of thought and thinking.
47:28
And so I think that it could be that.
47:30
I also see it really living within the sims lore
47:35
that we discussed earlier as well.
47:38
And then just like crazy, funny, wild, like things like that.
47:42
- Yeah, it's gotta be funny for sure.
47:44
We have to have Don Lathario, we have to have Belagoth
47:46
and aliens, it's gotta be Goofy.
47:48
- Yeah, and it's like we're gonna have a ladder taken out.
47:52
There's gonna be like a lot of fan service,
47:55
but I think not.
47:56
Up until very recently, like video games turned into shows
48:00
or movies has not really gone well.
48:04
Like up until, I mean, there are some good ones.
48:07
I think the Last of Us, which comes out in a couple weeks.
48:11
- I don't know how excited I am.
48:13
- It's usually with like first-person shooters though.
48:16
So it's like Tomb Raider, Max Payne, The Last of Us.
48:21
There have been a lot of them,
48:22
but they haven't really been these like open world kind of games.
48:27
- But I would take people like hated some of those as well.
48:31
Like The Last of Us was widely received
48:34
and people loved it, but a lot of fans of The Last of Us
48:38
were like so afraid of it being turned into a TV show.
48:41
- Oh, for sure.
48:42
I was afraid too.
48:43
I'm afraid for season two to come out,
48:44
especially if you know what goes down.
48:47
- I don't.
48:48
- Oh my God, I will not spoil it.
48:49
I will not spoil it.
48:50
But yeah, but then like the Borderlands movie crashed and burned.
48:54
- Yeah.
48:55
- But again, that's like a first-person shooter.
48:57
So I'm interested and I'm hesitant,
49:01
but I think it's in good hands.
49:03
- It's in good hands.
49:05
- Yeah, I ultimately think that Margot Robbie
49:07
like would not stake her reputation straight out of Barbie
49:12
if she didn't believe that she could create a great movie
49:18
with Kate Herron and Brianna Redmond.
49:24
Like I think there's so much.
49:27
Like we just talked about like a few families within.
49:30
- Yeah, but there's so much.
49:32
One game, right?
49:34
And there's all these different things.
49:35
And it could be like, oh, I moved into this one.
49:38
Like it could even be like moving through the games
49:40
the way we play that.
49:41
- Yeah, there's like a whole haunted one.
49:43
There's ghosts.
49:45
Like you can summon the dead.
49:47
Yeah, there's so many things that they could do.
49:50
- I do.
49:51
Like my biggest hope is simulation theory
49:54
because I think that would be a really crazy
49:55
like psychological thriller.
49:58
- Oh my God, what if it's a psychological thriller?
50:01
I would love that too.
50:03
It's not a comedy.
50:04
It's just a straight up mind-fucked.
50:05
Just, oh my God, is any of this real?
50:08
I love that.
50:09
- Yeah, right?
50:10
I think there's so much stuff that that could ultimately happen
50:13
within that movie.
50:15
So when I was doing the research for this episode
50:18
and building everything out,
50:20
I feel like I was kind of like you
50:22
where I was like, that could be really, really bad,
50:25
but really going through the history of the movie
50:28
or of the movie, of the game itself
50:31
and all that lore within it,
50:33
I think that it can be really, really cool.
50:37
And we have our trust in Margot Robbie.
50:41
- We do.
50:43
I think we're gonna watch it no matter what.
50:46
- Yeah.
50:47
- We'll just do it and see I suppose.
50:49
- Absolutely.
50:49
We're gonna get little green orbs up of our head
50:52
and dress up-- - Pleboms.
50:53
- Pleboms. - Well, pleboms.
50:56
Pleboms. - Pleboms.
50:56
- Pleboms. - Hello, yeah.
50:58
- Pleboms.
50:58
- We're gonna be talking about Sims, all over.
51:00
- What's the, I feel like I always,
51:02
about in Grovy?
51:04
Oh, yes.
51:05
(laughing)
51:07
- So so. - Yeah, I mean,
51:09
oh my God, I feel like they're a bunch of famous artists.
51:12
I wish I would have pulled this that have done songs for.
51:15
- Yes.
51:16
- Yes, I do know Katy Perry re-recorded last Friday night,
51:19
but in Simlish.
51:20
And so it's just a bunch of gibberish.
51:24
And that is so funny.
51:25
So if you turn on the radio and the Sims for people
51:28
who don't know, you can turn it to different genre stations.
51:31
And sometimes if you turn it to the pop station,
51:34
you'll go, wait, I know this song,
51:36
but it is in the Sim language.
51:38
Simlish. - Yes.
51:40
- So some of them are last Friday night
51:42
by Katy Perry pocketful sunshine.
51:46
Don'tcha by the post-catch.
51:47
- Yes.
51:48
- Smile, shut up by the black eyed peas.
51:52
Nana, na, pressure need you more than alive.
51:56
So there's some really fun ones.
51:57
- Oh yeah. - Like, chemical romance did it.
51:59
- Yeah. - Yeah.
52:00
- I love that.
52:01
I respect artists you can have fun like that.
52:03
- There's some really great Easter eggs within that.
52:05
And yeah, I mean, the Sims is an iconic game.
52:08
We love it.
52:09
And, you know, unfortunately, it is time to go back
52:13
to our real life now.
52:16
- No. - And we can't stay in Sim City.
52:18
I mean, I won't do this.
52:19
- Sim City is kind of your real life.
52:21
- You're too freaking weirdo.
52:23
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52:27
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52:31
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52:33
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52:36
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52:40
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52:44
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52:50
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53:23
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53:26
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53:29
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53:32
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53:34
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53:35
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