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Sam Wood’s Former Colleagues Break Their Silence · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Kate Torver. I'm Amy Torver.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Sophie Torver.
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  Speaker 1: And coming up on today's show, Tommy Fury allegedly kicked
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  Speaker 1: out of a Halloween event for intimidating staff.
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  Speaker 2: And Sam Guggenheimer's breakup backflip.
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  Speaker 1: But first, former colleagues of disgraced Bachelor star Sam Wood
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  Speaker 1: have come forward labelling the entrepreneur as a top-grade narcissist
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  Speaker 1: who was obsessed with cultivating a wholesome image. The explosive
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  Speaker 1: claims published by the Herald Sun come weeks after the
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  Speaker 1: personal trainer was charged with domestic violence offences against his wife. Now, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: before we dive into the new revelations, can you bring
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  Speaker 1: listeners up to speed with the case? Yeah, so it
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  Speaker 1: was only a couple of weeks ago that Sam Wood
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  Speaker 1: was charged with assaulting and strangling his wife, Snezana Wood,
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  Speaker 1: on a family holiday in Noosa. Now, police allege that
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  Speaker 1: Snez thought that she was going to die during the
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  Speaker 1: alleged incident. Sam has denied the charges and is preparing
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  Speaker 1: to fight them in court. His bail application was refused
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  Speaker 1: and he has spent the last 20 days behind bars. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as we touched on, the Herald Sun published an explosive
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  Speaker 1: article where colleagues branded Sam Wood a top grade narcissist. Now,
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  Speaker 1: these claims have come from a number of insiders who
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  Speaker 1: say they worked alongside Sam at his business 28. Some
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  Speaker 1: have even been described as business partners. The insiders chose
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  Speaker 1: to remain anonymous and the journalist pointed out that this
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  Speaker 1: is because many of the 28 employees have been prevented
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  Speaker 1: from speaking publicly on the matter due to very strict
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  Speaker 1: NDAs and confidentiality agreements. Despite the barriers in place, these
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  Speaker 1: insiders didn't hold back. The opening line of the article
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  Speaker 1: teased that the stories about Sam Wood would make your
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  Speaker 1: hair stand on end. One insider claimed employees of 28
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  Speaker 1: were always in damage control and They said they were
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  Speaker 1: putting out fires all the time and that it was
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  Speaker 1: only a matter of time before the barbells came crashing
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  Speaker 1: to the ground. The insider was quoted as saying he's
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  Speaker 1: a top grade narcissist and he was obsessed with cultivating
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  Speaker 1: a wholesome Tassie boy meet single mom image. He's got
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  Speaker 1: the gift of the gab and can be so charismatic.
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  Speaker 1: Another former colleague claimed that on one occasion, Sam Wood
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  Speaker 1: trashed his office after learning he had not been invited
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  Speaker 1: to a social event. The source told the Herald Sun
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  Speaker 1: if people reported he had a terrible anger problem, they
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  Speaker 1: would be correct. If they reported he was a bully
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  Speaker 1: who was obsessed with money, reputation and fame, they would
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  Speaker 1: also be correct. His obsession with money is at a
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  Speaker 1: level I've never seen before. Another insider labelled him a
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  Speaker 1: narrative guy and a calculated character, alleging once Bachelor filming
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up, Sam was already conjuring up how wonderful the
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  Speaker 1: storyline would sound of him falling in love with a
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  Speaker 1: single mum. Obviously, these are allegations at this point that
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  Speaker 1: have not been proven, but they don't paint a very
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  Speaker 1: flattering image, do they? I wonder how many of these
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  Speaker 1: rumours were circulating Melbourne before the alleged incident. That would
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  Speaker 1: be interesting to know. Or whether these people have been
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  Speaker 1: sitting on them waiting for a moment like this to happen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the insider also lifted the lid on Sam's much-publicised $ 71
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  Speaker 1: million payday. Now, that was when he sold 28 to
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  Speaker 1: DBG Health. The former colleague alleges it was more spin
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  Speaker 1: than substance and that Sam was believed to have pocketed
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  Speaker 1: only $ 15 million in the deal. Now, when I say only,
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  Speaker 1: clearly $ 15 million is a huge amount of money, but
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  Speaker 1: when you're being touted as having $ 71 million, it is
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  Speaker 1: a fraction of that. Well, the reason why this payday
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  Speaker 1: was so much smaller is because the insider says that
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  Speaker 1: at the time, Sam allegedly only owned half of the business.
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  Speaker 1: You often see these figures thrown around in the media
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  Speaker 1: because And they're sometimes not accurate. Like there are some
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  Speaker 1: rich lists, for example, where you don't have to provide
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  Speaker 1: any actual evidence of what you earn. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the time, these influencers or business people will use
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  Speaker 1: them as a bit of a branding exercise.
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  Speaker 2: Or as PR spin, isn't it, at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day?
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've seen that recently play out with Tammy Hembrough.
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  Speaker 1: She's been touted as having a fortune of over $ 50 million.
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  Speaker 1: But then, you know, she's publicly shut down her business.
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  Speaker 1: And she's had to come out and say, actually, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not poor. She's selling a house as well. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of question marks around what her fortune actually is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it does make you question how valid are these
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  Speaker 1: rich lists? Well, the insider also alleges that Sam quickly
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  Speaker 1: churned through most of the payout buying properties and flashy
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  Speaker 1: cars in the expectation that there were going to be
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  Speaker 1: many more future installments. Obviously, we have since learned that
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  Speaker 1: DGH Health ended its commercial business arrangement effective immediately with
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  Speaker 1: Sam in the aftermath of these domestic violence charges is
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  Speaker 1: predicted that he instantly lost tens of millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people saying, can SNES take
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  Speaker 1: over as the face of 28? I think that would
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  Speaker 1: be the smartest move. How many people would get behind it?
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  Speaker 2: Only if he's not getting any future installments with her being.
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  Speaker 1: The face of it. Well, they've cut all ties with him.
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  Speaker 1: Would she even really want to be connected to his
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  Speaker 1: old business? She really wants nothing to do with him.
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  Speaker 1: For the people who own 28, I think it's the
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  Speaker 1: only way of saving the brand. I mean, they've had
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  Speaker 1: to take down The woodshed, you know, he has that gym.
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  Speaker 1: They've had to take down the sign because they were
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  Speaker 1: getting so much hate over it. I actually think it
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  Speaker 1: would be a terrible move for her to become the
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  Speaker 1: face of it. Firstly, as Sophie touched on, why would
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  Speaker 1: she want to take over his business? And secondly, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really pivot the reputational damage that's happened to the business.
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  Speaker 1: If anything, it reminds everyone of what's happened. I just
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  Speaker 1: think it's a sinking ship at this point. Well, things
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  Speaker 1: just keep crumbling for Sam Wood. Last week, the couple's
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  Speaker 1: Brighton mansion was put on the market. Now, they purchased
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  Speaker 1: the home for $ 7. 15 million last September. It's now been
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  Speaker 1: listed for $ 1 million below what they paid.
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  Speaker 2: This has, of course, sparked a lot of speculation.
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  Speaker 1: People are saying the Woods are selling their home because
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  Speaker 1: they've gone broke after Sam's been let go by 28.
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  Speaker 1: But Domain have actually confirmed that this campaign was prepared
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  Speaker 1: before Sam's arrest. So they were just days away from
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  Speaker 1: listing this home before news broke of the domestic violence charges.
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  Speaker 1: Domain claim that the reason why the Woods are actually
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  Speaker 1: selling this home is because they purchased another luxury property nearby.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about terrible timing for this campaign. It'll be interesting
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  Speaker 1: to see what the property sells for. Now, last week,
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  Speaker 1: Sam was moved to the notorious high security prison at
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  Speaker 1: Walston Correctional Center in Brisbane's West. Now, this prison specifically
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  Speaker 1: houses high profile inmates who basically are a target in
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  Speaker 1: a normal jail. It's been reported that he is under
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  Speaker 1: a safety order and subject to frequent checks.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm now questioning if I've made the right decision
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  Speaker 4: to stay in Sydney.
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  Speaker 1: Late last week, Sam Guggenheimer announced she'd broken up with
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  Speaker 1: her DJ boyfriend, Ryan Maloney, only to take him back
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  Speaker 1: days later. Now, before we get into the latest drama, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: can you bring this up to speed on who Ryan is? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so for any millennials, it's not Toadfish Rebecca from Neighbours.
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  Speaker 1: He actually is the son of mega wealthy pub magnate
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  Speaker 1: Kim Maloney and Sydney socialite Di Maloney. Now, when he's
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  Speaker 1: not partying, he's DJing at his mum's Point Piper mansion
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  Speaker 1: and her plaza hotel.
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  Speaker 2: So he's a rich boy, basically.
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  Speaker 1: A very rich boy. He drives around in a black Lamborghini.
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  Speaker 1: He's got blonde hair. He kind of has that Bailey
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  Speaker 1: Smith look about him. He sounds like a walking red flag. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of just sounds like Sam Guggenheimer's type, though. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And which is why everyone was quite shocked because they
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  Speaker 1: only hard launched their relationship a couple of months ago
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  Speaker 1: when they were holidaying in the Maldives. And just a
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  Speaker 1: week or two ago, they were house hunting. So Sam
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  Speaker 1: documented the process on her TikTok and they appeared very
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  Speaker 1: much together as they checked out high-end apartments in Sydney's east. However,
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  Speaker 1: less than a week later, when Sam told her followers
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  Speaker 1: that her rental application had been approved, she then dropped
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  Speaker 1: that she was now moving in with her friend and
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  Speaker 1: her friend's boyfriend. Now, a follower ended up asking why
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  Speaker 1: she didn't get a spot with her boyfriend, to which
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  Speaker 1: she responded, because I don't have a boyfriend anymore. So
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  Speaker 1: whatever happened, happened very abruptly. Maybe they disagreed about what
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  Speaker 1: apartment they wanted to rent. Oh, moving in with a
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  Speaker 1: partner always causes a lot of problems, especially if you
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  Speaker 1: don't agree with the interior design. They hadn't even got
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  Speaker 1: to the point of moving in. Sam has been sharing
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of unboxing videos, and I felt really sorry
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  Speaker 1: for her because she broke down in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: this kitchen hall. and started questioning her decision to remain
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  Speaker 1: in Sydney because she moved from Melbourne to Sydney to
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  Speaker 1: be with Ryan and she's now just locked herself into
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  Speaker 1: this apartment. Let's take a listen to more of what
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  Speaker 1: she said. There's a lot going on and I'm just.
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  Speaker 3: Really missing home.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm now questioning if I've made the right decision
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  Speaker 1: to stay in Sydney.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just going through.
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  Speaker 3: A lot this year um.
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  Speaker 1: But it should be something really exciting and I am
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  Speaker 1: excited I just need to go to bed and get
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  Speaker 1: it through and I will get through it this is
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  Speaker 1: why you never move for a man I'm just putting
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  Speaker 1: it out there for any gents that is listening I
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  Speaker 1: mean She's made some cryptic posts since confirming this breakup too,
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  Speaker 1: as a lot of girls do. She reshared a TikTok
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  Speaker 1: that said, one day I didn't beg, I didn't fight.
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  Speaker 1: I just looked at the mess I was in and thought,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't love. And that was the day I chose myself.
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  Speaker 1: She also reposted another video that said, I was crying
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  Speaker 1: and he turned away and fell asleep.
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  Speaker 2: I love that this is the new thing now.
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  Speaker 1: If anyone breaks up, you have to look at their
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  Speaker 1: reshares on TikTok and also on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a little diary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the Gen Z version of putting up
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  Speaker 1: a millennial quote when you'd broken up. It's so funny
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  Speaker 1: clearing out your phone. I went way back and I
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  Speaker 1: saw all these really embarrassing quotes that I'd saved. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even post them on Instagram, but I had just
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  Speaker 1: saved kind of make sure people knew what I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking in these exact moments. I'm like, how embarrassing. I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine how awkward it must have been when Sam
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  Speaker 1: finally agreed to take this guy back. Because as you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned at the start, days later, Sam did a complete backflip.
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  Speaker 1: And uploaded a reel that was captioned, made a lapse
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  Speaker 1: of judgment in my comment section. Now someone commented underneath
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  Speaker 1: the video, you look great. Your boyfriend, I bet, is proud.
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  Speaker 1: To which she replied, he is. I wonder if she
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  Speaker 1: had to go and quickly delete the reshares on TikTok. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I had a look back and the video of her
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  Speaker 1: crying over the kitchen hall is still there. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: getting a lot of views and engagement.
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  Speaker 2: It's left up as a warning.
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  Speaker 1: What makes this even more awkward is there's clearly a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on in Ryan's life. So the reason he
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  Speaker 1: was house hunting in the first place is because the
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  Speaker 1: apartment he was living in had to be sold. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that apartment was owned by his mom, Di. Now, she
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  Speaker 1: made headlines when she purchased the apartment block for $ 29. 2 million.
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  Speaker 1: So it wasn't just an apartment. It was the whole block.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the whole plan was for her to develop these
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  Speaker 1: into luxury apartments for her children. However, three weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: the block was sold in a forced sale. As creditors
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  Speaker 1: are trying to recoup money from her.
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  Speaker 2: We've turned into a real estate podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It was sold for almost $ 9 million less than what
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  Speaker 1: Di paid for it. And that is because despite the
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  Speaker 1: family portraying this life of luxury on socials, this year
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  Speaker 1: Di has been embroiled in major financial and legal disputes
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  Speaker 1: tied to her property and also hotel ventures. Now, she
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  Speaker 1: came out earlier this year and denied the claims, but
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  Speaker 1: recently the company that her properties are held within went
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  Speaker 1: into external administration and her hotel that Ryan DJs at
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  Speaker 1: has been listed for sale under receiver's control.
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  Speaker 2: Where's he going to DJ at now? Is someone going
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  Speaker 2: to throw him a bone?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you'll be happy to know that despite all these
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  Speaker 1: financial troubles being made public, he actually held a very
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  Speaker 1: lavish party at his mum's Point Piper mansion earlier this month. Now,
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  Speaker 1: he promoted the party and dubbed it Rush. And it's
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  Speaker 1: been reported that that party cost $ 200, 000. This is why
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  Speaker 1: her properties are being recouped because it sounds like the
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  Speaker 1: family is spending money like it's going out of fashion
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  Speaker 1: money that they don't seem to have. Yeah, but you've
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  Speaker 1: also got to remember she wouldn't be spending company money.
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  Speaker 1: That would be her private money that she spent on
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  Speaker 1: the party. I love the mention of Point Piper because
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  Speaker 1: the only time I've really heard of this suburb because
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  Speaker 1: I don't live in Sydney is when it was mentioned
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  Speaker 1: on Lux Listing. Like anytime there was a house in
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  Speaker 1: Point Piper, it was like, $ 20 million. Plot twist. Do
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  Speaker 1: we reckon that something went down at this party to
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  Speaker 1: have caused the breakup? Well, it's funny you say that
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  Speaker 1: because Di Maloney is actually infamous in that area. She's
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  Speaker 1: known as the point piper party queen. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: unusual for big parties like this to be held at
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  Speaker 1: her house. What's pretty funny is everyone's saying, oh, maybe
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  Speaker 1: this is the last party that's going to be held
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  Speaker 1: at this mansion because there are reports that she's going
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  Speaker 1: to have to sell her home in order to discharge
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  Speaker 1: some mortgages. However, According to Ryan, there are more parties
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  Speaker 1: to come and more performances. He ended up putting up
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  Speaker 1: a post saying, like, more coming. Do you reckon he's
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  Speaker 1: any good at DJing or is it kind of that thing, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, where the person's crap and the parent's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can DJ. I'm getting the Chris Lilley character, the
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  Speaker 1: real estate agent DJing. Oh, yeah, throwing, like, pavlovas at everyone.
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  Speaker 1: What's made all of this even more awkward is the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Ryan's sister, who fancies herself as a bit
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  Speaker 1: of an influencer, has been posting TikToks about what she's
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  Speaker 1: been eating in first class.
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  Speaker 2: So it's all coming across as very awkward. So another
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  Speaker 2: plot twist. Do we reckon that Sam dumped them because
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  Speaker 2: she thought he was going to be poor?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they were checking out like shit apartments in Sydney. No,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't. The apartment that she's got is epic. Like
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  Speaker 1: it would be so expensive.
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  Speaker 4: First, Molly May attacking a scare actor with her windshield wipers,
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  Speaker 4: and now Tommy Fury's calling one a fucking prick.
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  Speaker 3: What's next?
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  Speaker 1: Bambi's going to be biting him next year. Molly May's fiance,
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  Speaker 1: Tommy Fury, has made headlines after allegedly being kicked out
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  Speaker 1: of a Halloween event over claims he intimidated young scare actors.
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  Speaker 1: One female actor has since spoken out, claiming she was
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  Speaker 1: left terrified following an encounter with the boxer who who
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  Speaker 1: she believed was intoxicated. I love how this story has
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  Speaker 1: introduced this new genre of actors. I'd never heard of
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  Speaker 1: a scare actor before. I think it's quite common in
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  Speaker 1: the US and also in the UK because Halloween is
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  Speaker 1: so much bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Soph, how did this all unfold?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, on October 10th, Tommy and his friends attended
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  Speaker 1: a Halloween event in Manchester called Scare City. And Molly
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  Speaker 1: Mae Stans, like me, will know that this couple loves Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: It's their favourite time of year. They always get around it.
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  Speaker 1: They have professional decorators come in and do a Halloween
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  Speaker 1: display in their front yard. They have movie marathons in
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  Speaker 1: the lead up. But this time, Tommy did not attend
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  Speaker 1: the event with Molly. He chose to go with a
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  Speaker 1: big group of male friends. Well, Molly was probably too
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  Speaker 1: busy looking after their two children.
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  Speaker 2: Or playing the cello, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Now, the event was held at a theme
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  Speaker 1: park and it had a horror trowel that guests could
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  Speaker 1: walk through with different sets and live actors. It's being
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  Speaker 1: reported that Tommy was given free tickets to attend the event.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose there's a bit of contra deal to post
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  Speaker 1: about it. Before the event, it's being alleged that management
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  Speaker 1: was warned that he might be a bit of a handful.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if this company is pleased by all of
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  Speaker 1: the publicity that's come out now, because over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: news broke that Tommy Fury had allegedly been kicked out
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  Speaker 1: of this event after being accused of intimidating young actors.
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  Speaker 1: So he allegedly left one female scare actor terrified. Now,
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  Speaker 1: The Sun was the first publication to break this news,
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  Speaker 1: but it was off the back of a ton of
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  Speaker 1: videos of Tommy behaving badly at this event going viral
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  Speaker 1: on TikTok. So one of the TikTok videos showed Tommy
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  Speaker 1: staggering around the theme park. There was another really weird
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  Speaker 1: video of him kissing a male actor in.
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  Speaker 2: A clown mask.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that photo everywhere. It's just not a good look.
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  Speaker 1: And it gives you an insight into the way he
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  Speaker 1: was behaving. Which goes so against what we see of
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  Speaker 1: him on Molly Mae's channel, where she's very good at
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  Speaker 1: curating her life and making their relationship look perfect, even
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  Speaker 1: though we know that they broke up a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago due to Tommy's drinking problems. But I feel
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  Speaker 1: like she also prides herself in being real because it's
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  Speaker 1: not just beautiful photos they post of each other. Like
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  Speaker 1: they post themselves messing around and farting and all this
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But when it comes to their relationship,
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  Speaker 1: you get the idea that they're cute together, that they're
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  Speaker 1: always happy that he's this family man when Behind the scenes,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: it seems quite different now. Well, it's not like she
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: jumps on and she's like, oh, Tommy's just at a
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Halloween event getting drunk.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I think after that very public breakup, a lot of
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: us have Tommy's ticket and we're like, okay, I don't
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: think what we're seeing online of him is correct. But
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of hope that maybe he's changed. Maybe he's,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: you know. He fought so hard to get Molly Mae back.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: And then seeing this unfold online has been so disappointing.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: You want to buy into it, don't you? You want
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: to buy into the dream that she's putting out there
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: because you love her. And it's so obvious when you
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: see this vision that he is incredibly drunk. I mean,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: there were people saying that he smelled like vomit as well.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It's a terrible look. Now, as we said, these clips
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: have gone absolutely viral. And of course, people had a
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: lot to say in the comment section. One user wrote,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: looks like he slipped and unfortunately had a drink.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Addiction is hard. There were also a lot of Molly
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Mae fans who were worried about how this incident reflected
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: on her. One wrote, he always finds a way to
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: embarrass Molly, whilst another said, Molly, leave him.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: The kiss was.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Also very hotly debated, as you would expect.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: One person wrote, the kiss, with all these question marks,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: immediately single, which got over 16.8 thousand likes. Now, One
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: person came into bat for Tommy and said, it's obviously
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a man because he's the same height as Tommy and
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he's wearing a mask, not like he's snogging some girl
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: at a nightclub. If you haven't seen this vision, it
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: sounds a lot worse, I think, than it was. He
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: was literally pretending to size up to the guy like
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you would in a boxing ring. And then he lent
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in and pretended to kiss him. I mean, the man
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: was wearing a mask. It wasn't some like passionate kiss.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I definitely think it would have been worse if it
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: was a female scare actor. A lot of people are
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: saying that his lips only touched the mask, but- It
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: was like a split scene. I wouldn't have been pleased
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: about it. It was more intimidating than like a sexual kiss.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But do you know what, though? It's how it comes
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: across in the media as well. So if you hear headlines,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Tommy Fury kissed a scare actor, you're like, oh, my God,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: particularly when there were past rumours when the couple broke
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: up about him hooking up with girls.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: In nightclubs and cheating on her.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Do you know what?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I just think it made him look like a douchebag.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think it looked like he was cheating on her.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I just thought, what is this guy doing? To make
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: matters worse for Tommy– One of the scare actors has
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: also spoken out about the incident on TikTok. So in
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the video, which has attracted over 1.7 million views, the
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: actor called Onyx alleges that the boxer lunged at her,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: leaving her feeling terrified. Now, she claims that she didn't
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: realize it was Tommy Fury until he was in her face.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: She says he was allegedly standing so close to her
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that their chests were touching. And quickly after, she says
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that his two security guards also got in her face, Now,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: after this bizarre encounter, Onyx said that Tommy and his
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: security guards turned to walk away, but Tommy tripped over
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the end of her long cape.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what she said happened next.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I was so startled. I had to go and take
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: a minute because I was shivering. Well, not shivering, but
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I was shaking.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I was so startled. Can you imagine what it was
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: like for me? I'm a scare actor.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I'm trained to deal with awful people, threatening people and
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: stuff like that but I've got a famous boxer in
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: my face and two security guards as a five foot
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: six woman.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: What?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: That was not what I came to work for. I
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: am so just... I was terrified.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: He then proceeds to turn around and I cannot remember
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: exactly what he said and I don't want to state
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: as a fact that he said this specific thing as
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I'm coming to social media about it but he said something.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Along the lines of You fucking prick. Something like that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I at no point I never say anything I do
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: not do anything I do not retaliate but Tommy why
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: why are you behaving like that you are every year
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: you always come to like scare mazes.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry Tommy get home Stop going out drunk and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: making a fool of yourself. Like I'm so angry for
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Molly Mae. She has taken him back. She's had a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: second baby, which. Clearly he was pushing for it. She's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: done everything he wanted and he's still acting like a.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Dickhead out at a Halloween event.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Like you have a young baby at home. I just
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: at home. A baby, a baby with colic as well.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I saw people like, oh, it's just a 27 year
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: old lad.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: You're a 27 year old dad of two. Yeah. But
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: also as this woman pointed out, she's five foot six.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: She's this small woman with this large boxer in her face.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: She said that she wasn't even at like she wasn't
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: even scaring people at that point. She was just having
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a bit of rest just standing there and he got
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: in her face allegedly like that. I think a lot
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of women have had that experience where they've been at
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: a nightclub and just this awfully drunk person will not
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: respect their space and just gets in their face.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: It's revolting.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Well, particularly when that person as Onyx touched on He
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: is a famous boxer. That's his profession. I know. And
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: why is he, you know, allegedly squaring up and pretending
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to fight with people, particularly women?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: A woman, yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Well, the actor Onyx went on to ask the boxer
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: for an apology saying this.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I think an apology would just be appreciated because, well,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: we deserve one, you know, just an apology. I mean,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: this is just on my own regard.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I can't speak for any of my colleagues, but I
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: do like an apology. you know, a sober apology, because
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: you did appear quite drunk, and if you weren't, I'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: very sorry that I believed that you were, but, you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: I feel like that behaviour would be worse if you
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: were sober, but also we do, we do serve alcohol
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: at our place of work, it's a trail, you have
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: a group, you have a set, a few attractions, you
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: have a rest point, you know, drinks, food, entertainment, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: then you continue into the second half, which is where
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I was, so if you were intoxicated, I'd appreciate an
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: apology because you scared me quite a bit and not
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: in a cool way.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Well, this just confirms what everyone was thinking, that he
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: was intoxicated at the event, which is really sad because
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: when he and Molly Mae broke up, he came out
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and said that he has an issue with alcohol and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it was something that he was working on. Now, presumably,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: many of us thought that that was no longer an
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: issue once Molly Mae took him back. But alcoholism isn't
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: something that is just fixed overnight.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: going to be an ongoing problem for him sadly. Yeah
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: well Tommy's management have responded saying that the whole incident
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: has been misinterpreted apparently. They claim that Tommy was playfully
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: approached by numerous actors that night who wanted to have
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a face-off with him and they said that this is
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: quite a normal request when boxers go out in public.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: His management also said that none of these so-called square-ups
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: were done in an aggressive manner. Sorry but how is
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that possible? The whole point of boxing is to be aggressive.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I love that the management also were like He was
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of DMs from some of the scare
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: actors saying how lovely it was to meet him and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: his friends. Can you imagine them typing this up and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: thinking that anyone was going to actually believe this? I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: wonder if Fran had anything to do with it. Molly's
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: manager's like, fuck, I've got to step in and help
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: these guys out. What's really sad is it seems like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: we saw the reality of this situation play out two
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: days later on Molly May's YouTube because she filmed a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: scene of her in her car talking about how she
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't having a great Monday. She explained that she'd actually
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: already broken down in tears. Now, she put this down
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to the fact that their young son, Midas, had been sick.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: He had his first cold, which later they took him
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to the doctor and it seemed quite serious. They said
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: he potentially had RSV. But clearly, there was a lot
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: more going on behind the scenes. I want to know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: what does Molly's sister, Zoe Ray, think about this? Because
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: she seemed to have Tommy's tickets. in Molly's documentary. Like
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot of love lost between those two.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: She would be feeling so validated, but also awful because
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you don't, you want the best for your sister. You
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: don't want to be proven right in that situation. Particularly
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: when they've only just had a new baby as well.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: In the wake of this backlash, clearly Molly's manager, Fran,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: has said, look, we need a pap walk. Everyone needs
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to see that you guys are still together.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So there's no speculation. over your relationship status.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: So just a day after the Sun article, the couple
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: were photographed out with their kids looking like they were.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Having a great time.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a really clever PR move by Fran.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: People needed to see them together because otherwise... How much
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: speculation would there be over this that they've broken up? Well,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Molly backed it up by posting a bunch of photos
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of her and Tommy with the kids over the weekend
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: doing very wholesome activities. So it's clear they're trying to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: show a united front. I mean, we cannot finish this topic, though,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: without the inclusion of Jake Paul's involvement in this story.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: So he is weighed in and he is, of course,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: one of Tommy's boxing rivals. On X, he wrote, Molly
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Mae runs a business, raises the kids and pays the bills.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Tommy's job was not to get kicked out of a
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: haunted house. Couldn't do it. Now, Tommy hit back writing, well, well, well,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: look who can't keep my name out of his mouth.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I'll see you very soon, buddy. Time to break the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: other side of your jaw, you fat tattooed prick. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: don't get why he'd use the word prick considering the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: scare actor accused him of calling her a prick. Or
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: just be aggressive in general. I mean, I know he's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a boxer, but it's like, hang on, you've just backed
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: up what people were saying about you. I can't take
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Tommy seriously when he does these clapbacks at people because
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I just think of him cuddling Ellie Belly, Molly's made
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: a soft toy, and I'm like, it's obviously a performance.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Now Jake responded back to Tommy saying, never happening, ship
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: has sailed, you're a daddy's little girl who kisses boys
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: instead of taking care of your own girls. God, he
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: really owned him there, didn't he? Yeah. Well, I think
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so
• 25:42
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