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President Trump's Prayer Breakfast Controversy · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: We've been rickrolled? Is Rick rolling still a thing?
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  Speaker 2: Rickrolling?
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  Speaker 1: Have you lived in our country for long?
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  Speaker 3: Long? Well? I know the song, okay, that is that
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  Speaker 3: is the great Rick Astley, who is sixty years old today,
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  Speaker 3: and that is a wonderful record out of nineteen eighty seven.
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  Speaker 2: And rolling.
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  Speaker 1: But no, there were a couple more. I hope you
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  Speaker 1: invested well.
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  Speaker 3: But Rickrolling was an internet meme prank thing where you
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  Speaker 3: would get something an email and be like, hey, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: here here's a link on how to get great tickets
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  Speaker 3: to that hot new Broadway show, and you'd click on that.
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  Speaker 3: In about five seconds in it would be like in
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  Speaker 3: order to get tickets to that Broadway so and then
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  Speaker 3: it would be instantly Rick Astley coming at you in
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  Speaker 3: video for him and so rickrolling. Then everybody did it
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  Speaker 3: for absolutely everything. It was a fun bait and switch thing.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go, happy by I came to Rick Astley,
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  Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Rick I came up. I came across a
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  Speaker 3: segment from CBS Sunday Morning on Jim Croche's son, and
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of a fascinating story because he was two
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  Speaker 3: years old when Jim Crochey his dad perish in a
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  Speaker 3: plane crash Nacodochius, Louisiana.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: And it was, and the circumstances behind the plane crash
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  Speaker 2: are really weird. I got into a deep dive. One
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  Speaker 2: story is that their performer, Jim Crochey, and this guitarist
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  Speaker 2: and this band. Of course, we're at a college campus
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  Speaker 2: in Louisiana, and a good old boy sheriff, as the
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  Speaker 2: story goes, got mad because the sheriff's daughter was enamored
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  Speaker 2: with one of the band members, and because they were
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  Speaker 2: supposed to do the encore, and the encore was like
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  Speaker 2: his biggest hit and I think at the time it
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  Speaker 2: was Time in a Bottle.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was the big hit then, right, and
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  Speaker 1: the operator he was a pretty short career, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But still pretty good amount of pretty good, uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: uh uh library there. Anyway, as the story goes, the
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  Speaker 2: sheriff got mad at the daughter, you know, liking one
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  Speaker 2: of the band members. So they went off stage and
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  Speaker 2: got ready to do the encore. Before the encore, the
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  Speaker 2: sheriff allegedly went up and said, boys, you better get
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  Speaker 2: back on your airplane and you better get the heck
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  Speaker 2: out of dodge. If you know, what's good for you,
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  Speaker 2: or we're gonna do a we're gonna do a test
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  Speaker 2: of your plane. We're gonna find it, we're gonna find
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  Speaker 2: some drugs, and we're gonna take all your butts to jail. So,
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  Speaker 2: as the story goes, they said, we're out fine, don't
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  Speaker 2: tell you, don't tell us. Twice they had to get
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  Speaker 2: the pilot who was asleep in the motel room. They
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  Speaker 2: rousted him, supposedly, and he couldn't get a taxi cab
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  Speaker 2: and he had to run two miles to the airport. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and he had a bad heart condition. So, as the
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  Speaker 2: story goes, because of the heart condition, he was now
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  Speaker 2: in terrible shape, was in no condition to fly a plane.
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  Speaker 2: They get on this DC Douglass whatever the plane was.
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  Speaker 2: He revs the engine. They're trying to get out and
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't clear the trees and he clips a pecan
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  Speaker 2: tree and they all died. Now that's the story.
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  Speaker 3: Are you buying it? Not for a minute. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, because the thing that immediately screams BS
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  Speaker 3: to me is if so the sheriff comes back, you know,
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  Speaker 3: something out of Duke's of hazard for on that plane.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean how long is the song? Four minutes.
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  Speaker 3: The difference between when they leave is like eleven o
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  Speaker 3: two and eleven o six, and the pilot is sawing
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  Speaker 3: logs in a motel room.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'd be gassing up the plane. And that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem like it seems like one of
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  Speaker 2: those stories that, look, there's a lot of weird stuff
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  Speaker 2: going on in the world. This has been a strange week.
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  Speaker 2: And of course you touched on the Savannah Guthrie mother's story.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey Levin is now revealing more of the contents from
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  Speaker 2: the ransom note the TMC got, saying that the guy
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  Speaker 2: or person who wrote the ransom note says that Nancy
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  Speaker 2: the mother is safe but scared. Now you know that
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  Speaker 2: was that? Well? Yeah, I mean, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, is this okay, well, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Was this the ransom note that they received some days
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  Speaker 3: ago and then publicized, which just was weird to me?
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  Speaker 2: Or yeah, pol well they didn't publicize that all the contents.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think of that, just that they had just
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  Speaker 1: that they had received. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But now he's starting to you know, as gmz's going
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  Speaker 2: to do. You got to get the clicks, you got
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  Speaker 2: to get the engagement. He's starting to reveal a little
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  Speaker 2: of the contents, but there's a there's a faint hope
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  Speaker 2: that she's still alive. You think she's what's your gut
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  Speaker 2: tell you?
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  Speaker 3: You think she's alive? I, well, it's kind of funny,
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  Speaker 3: is you? And I sort of texted back and forth
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  Speaker 3: on like day two. We were feeling really bad about this.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, I just don't this is going to end
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  Speaker 3: in a tragedy. But that was before we had a
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  Speaker 3: ransom note. Now we do, and and now that there's
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  Speaker 3: got every family member, you know, every day, the next
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  Speaker 3: family member up to issue a heartfelt video as a
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  Speaker 3: Savannah's brother who did it overnight, saying, listen, we're wanting
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  Speaker 3: to talk to you, guys, but you've got to reach
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  Speaker 3: out to us. So of course, part of prayer is hope,
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  Speaker 3: and prayer gives you hope, and whatever God's will is,
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  Speaker 3: I just hope that it is for this woman. I
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  Speaker 3: hope for this as we get through Super Bowl someday
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  Speaker 3: and a wonderful weekend, I hope that part of this
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  Speaker 3: wonderful weekend is the discovery of this woman somewhere. So
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  Speaker 3: that is my prayer, obviously, and they share that broadly.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how it happens to do the captors
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  Speaker 3: give up on the idea of money and just leave
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  Speaker 3: her somewhere to be welcome.
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  Speaker 1: That would be the money.
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  Speaker 2: See. What's fascinating to me is the untraceable nature of
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  Speaker 2: today's financial extortionists. You know, you look at the ransomware
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  Speaker 2: attacks that the companies fit. A lot of companies will
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  Speaker 2: pay the ransomware. Sure, they just pay the demand. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand that because law enforcement evidently is completely
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  Speaker 2: incapable of finding out who holds.
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  Speaker 1: Its way to do it.
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  Speaker 3: That that's why I do it, because that's nice to me.
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  Speaker 3: We all watch too much TV. But in an old
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  Speaker 3: if somebody's got my mom hostage, it's like, okay, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to pay the ransom, all right, leave the money
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  Speaker 3: by this, uh you know this, this post office box
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  Speaker 3: at Third and Main. So I leave the money at
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  Speaker 3: the post office box. The guy comes to pick up
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  Speaker 3: the money, twenty seven cops land on him in But
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  Speaker 3: now with the bitcoin addresses, it's completely untraceable. So they
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  Speaker 3: got to be tempted to give them the money. And
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea how much money it is they
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  Speaker 3: have five million dollars. You get a bitcoin five million
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  Speaker 3: dollars to somebody and then they just vanish because there's
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  Speaker 3: no accountability. You can say they got the money and
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  Speaker 3: you got no no mom.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild to me how many things are untraceable, like
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  Speaker 2: the bitcoin thing. Apparently, emails and phone calls. Now you
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  Speaker 2: can spoof phone calls. That's why this, uh, this doxing
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  Speaker 2: stuff and this this are swatting. I mean the swatting.
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  Speaker 2: They can call nine one one, nine one one, can't
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  Speaker 2: trace the call back. They can't figure out. Now, there's
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  Speaker 2: gotta be ways, you think, But it sounds like the
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  Speaker 2: technical gurus and the geeks and the they get more sophisticated,
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  Speaker 2: and they just get more they have more of an
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  Speaker 2: ability to uh to keep the authorities from financial So
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  Speaker 2: think about this, all right, So let's say they do
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  Speaker 2: if they do get in touch. I mean, everybody's saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: get in touch, give us a number, we'll we'll do. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: if you have been in this right family, you know
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  Speaker 2: they're going to pay the ransom as you would, as
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  Speaker 2: I would, as we all would, knowing full well that
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  Speaker 2: that energizes the next kidnapper. We don't care I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: my loved one back.
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  Speaker 3: But how are they supposed to get in touch? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what even is a burner phone? I know I watched
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  Speaker 3: them too much TV, now is it? Are they totally untraceable?
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  Speaker 3: Any way in which these captors get a hold of
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  Speaker 3: them is a way in which they can be caught,
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  Speaker 3: one would think. But as you just said, who knows
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  Speaker 3: these days?
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  Speaker 1: Didn't?
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe you know if you go down the scenarios
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  Speaker 2: here and you say, okay, because the captors. As as
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  Speaker 2: Nancy Grace was bloviating the other night on Sean Hannity's show,
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  Speaker 2: she was yelling and screaming, and she said, they hold
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  Speaker 2: all the cards. This is that she kept saying, this
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  Speaker 2: is their game. This is their game. Now, this is
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  Speaker 2: all their game. But it is they hold all the cards.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe the expect because the deadline, the next deadline
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  Speaker 2: apparently for her life, is Monday, so maybe the expectation
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  Speaker 2: is you put the money in the bitcoin account and
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  Speaker 2: you're going to get your mother back. And Savannah Guthrie
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  Speaker 2: and the family are saying, you got to show us
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  Speaker 2: proof of life. Yep, Well, they may not be inclined
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  Speaker 2: to show or proof show the proof of life. So
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  Speaker 2: then what do you do? Do you put the money in?
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  Speaker 2: You roll the dice? Uh, you know, I don't who
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  Speaker 2: knows how much money they're demanding. Savannah Guthrie's got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money, a wealthy woman, So it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: I have a hunch, this is just my my gut. Well,
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  Speaker 2: and this isn't even a wild off the ledge of prediction,
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  Speaker 2: but this is going to end in a wild way.
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  Speaker 2: There's going to be a wild ending to this. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to say what I think it might be,
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  Speaker 2: but I think there's going to be.
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  Speaker 1: A wild good or wild bad wild I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I just think there's going to be, hey speaking a
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  Speaker 3: wild I kind of I kind of know what you
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  Speaker 3: mean that. Obviously, our prayer is that she has discovered.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the wild element will be who did it, as
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  Speaker 3: we or maybe she'll be found and then these people
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  Speaker 3: think they slink off into obscurity forever. But then the
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  Speaker 3: law enforcement heroes at the FBI or something. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's going to be these local cops. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: impressed with the local constabulary and p mkay.
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  Speaker 2: Let's maybe maybe the ending is they pay the ransom,
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  Speaker 2: she comes back and they never catch the people who
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  Speaker 2: did it. That could happen, Well happens. I'll take it
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  Speaker 2: as long as she gets back.
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  Speaker 3: Favorite, my favorite thing is to have these captors caught.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the final thing about the captors is I
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  Speaker 3: think at one point the FBI guy says, come on,
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  Speaker 3: here's your chance to do the right thing. Let her go. Well,
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  Speaker 3: if if these captors are found tomorrow and and and
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  Speaker 3: and uh and and mssus Guthrie is fine, they're still
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  Speaker 3: going to jail for the rest of their lives. What
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  Speaker 3: is the difference to them between releasing her and and
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  Speaker 3: kelling her? Good much in terms of the Watchman.
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  Speaker 2: So you want to and you want another creepy chapter
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  Speaker 2: to this Savannah Guthrie and the message that she gave
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  Speaker 2: day before yesterday. There's a line that she uses now
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  Speaker 2: she was reading a script and you know that that
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  Speaker 2: was carefully vetted. Every word was probably put together by
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  Speaker 2: a team of psychologists, professionals, law enforcement efforts who say
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  Speaker 2: this is what this is what.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying to say that.
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  Speaker 2: But one of the lines was how kind she is
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  Speaker 2: talk to her. You'll see that's a line right from
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  Speaker 2: Silence of the Lambs. There's a scene in the movie
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  Speaker 2: with Anthony Hopkins Silence of the Lambs where somebody got
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  Speaker 2: kidnapped and the mother of the kidnapping victim made a
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  Speaker 2: video and says in the video she's kind talk to her.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see. And I don't know if that was just
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  Speaker 2: like intentional or a coincident. Anyway, the whole thing is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of crazy, have you did you get a did
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  Speaker 2: you get a whiff of any of the pushback from
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  Speaker 2: our side that President Trump got over his remarks at
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  Speaker 2: the National Prayer Breakfast yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: I did, yeah, yeah, sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Let me share what the criticism basis of them, go ahead,
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  Speaker 3: because I saw the basis.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me read text from somebody we both know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm gonna. I'm not gonna mention him
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  Speaker 2: by name. He's a good guy, spiritual guy, evangelical, former
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  Speaker 2: colleague of ours, not former evangelical Christian. And he writes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm really ticked at Trump today. He's been bloviating at
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  Speaker 2: the National Prayer Breakfast, talking about everything else, but Jesus
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  Speaker 2: Christ says he should get into heaven because of all
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  Speaker 2: the good work around the world. He's done dope. I
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  Speaker 2: have to believe people urged him to read the script,
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  Speaker 2: and he and stop saying, hell, ye read the room, buddy,
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  Speaker 2: another friend from a big somebody you also know, not
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  Speaker 2: all well, somebody in our circle. He prides himself on
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  Speaker 2: doing the weave, but he got into the weaves pretty quickly,
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  Speaker 2: and he's not been able to find his way back.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's so funny when people who seem to
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  Speaker 2: know Trump act like they don't know Trump.
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  Speaker 1: This is soupid.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody wants to make a point that it was
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  Speaker 3: not exactly a Billy Graham address, If somebody wants to
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  Speaker 3: make the point.
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  Speaker 2: That he.
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  Speaker 3: Getting into heaven, look at all the good stuff I've done.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you don't get into heaven on works. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: we know, we know, we know all that. Of that
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  Speaker 3: matters in this moment. You wait for it, wait for it,
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  Speaker 3: keep the car on the road. What matters is I
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  Speaker 3: think I talked about this during the campaign where evangel
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  Speaker 3: and listen, evangelicals love Trump.
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  Speaker 1: You know why?
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  Speaker 3: Is it because he behaves scripturally in word, indeed through
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  Speaker 3: his whole life, no, or through his every utterance. No,
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  Speaker 3: But no president in history has done more to protect
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  Speaker 3: our religious freedom. That's what matters. There are people that
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  Speaker 3: are trying to criminalize, demonize everything we believe, and Trump
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  Speaker 3: is our m one. Abrams tank against it. That's why
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  Speaker 3: I love him, and that's why all this nitpicking is stupid.
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  Speaker 2: During the during the speech, he said religion is back
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  Speaker 2: now hotter.
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  Speaker 1: Than ever before. Hot religion.
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  Speaker 2: But he also he also announced the National Day of Prayer,
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  Speaker 2: May seventeenth. We're inviting Americans from all across the country
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  Speaker 2: to come together on our national mall to pray. He
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  Speaker 2: is an imperfect vessel. We get it. So was King David.
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  Speaker 2: I mean for crying out loud, just understand that, and
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  Speaker 2: for evangelicals to get their their panties in a wad
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  Speaker 2: because he didn't like you said, come across as a
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  Speaker 2: as a you know, as as the pope or a
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  Speaker 2: preacher or a pastor of a huge evangelical church. Get
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  Speaker 2: over yourselves for crying out loud. Hey, this is what's
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  Speaker 2: wrong with us.
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  Speaker 3: We had a president who was absolute scriptural evangelical, YEP,
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  Speaker 3: Sunday school, married one time to one woman. Your name
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  Speaker 3: was Jimmy Carter. Disasrest my thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's please take the wins, okay, and let's just appreciate
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  Speaker 2: what we got. So and I appreciate you, happy and
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  Speaker 2: good luck With Wesley Hunt. I don't know where I
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  Speaker 2: stand with this. This is wild. I saw him pushing
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  Speaker 2: back at you. Well, well where I stand because I
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  Speaker 2: just got to tell him a little uncomfortable with you
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  Speaker 2: going anti Wesley Hunt.
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  Speaker 1: I love him, I've defended him.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the crap that.
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  Speaker 1: Corn And is talking.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then stop saying he can't win.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say, let's take you. I'm very skeptical. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's any way that.
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  Speaker 2: He stopped being skeptical about fellow Republicans. What the voters decided.
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  Speaker 3: Mike, that is so, of course the voters decided, Well,
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  Speaker 3: he might be right or I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I saw another call showing him ahead yesterday this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Of course you did well, you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, come to think of it, it came from
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  Speaker 2: Wesley Hunt.
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  Speaker 3: There's that is the idea. I got a crazy idea
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  Speaker 3: for you, for Wesley, for everybody. I'm gonna say stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I believe sometimes I'll be right, sometimes I'll be wrong.
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  Speaker 3: But the notion of suppress some honestly held belief that
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  Speaker 3: I have for the birds, get out of here. Just
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  Speaker 3: be a cheerleader for all of them. More fun more fatio.
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  Speaker 2: Axios Today has a big article though about the fears
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  Speaker 2: about the the possibility of the Republicans losing the Senate
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  Speaker 2: and their argument that the conventional wisdom, supposedly you know
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  Speaker 2: this better than anybody because you're the dean of Texas politics,
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  Speaker 2: is that if if Packson beats Cornyn, Democrats going to
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  Speaker 2: take the seat. Cornyn is the only way it's safe.
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  Speaker 2: Not if Cornyn wins, then the Democrat is going to lose.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's well, that's conventional wins.
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  Speaker 1: Is it okay that I say that? Is it? Can
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  Speaker 1: I say that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I will let you say that.
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  Speaker 1: I give you a permission here. I love me, Mike Gallagher,
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  Speaker 1: you hang in there.
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  Speaker 3: A great weekend week Happy super Bowl weekend, super Bowl weekend.
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  Speaker 1: He is going to rock right here on six sixty
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  Speaker 1: A