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The Great Wooly-Gub-Gub Paradox · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Footing timgamen the.
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  Speaker 2: Ok it's not a now to ask, but it did
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  Speaker 2: make me laugh.
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  Speaker 1: So it's very interesting. But what's going on? Everybody? I'm
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  Speaker 1: the one, the only the w o okay, I e
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  Speaker 1: one misfits short of a happy mail, as per the
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  Speaker 1: norm for this show. But we do have the PhD
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  Speaker 1: of key Forge, doctor m Sheep, Hello and the Ewakia
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  Speaker 1: some ewoks.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Keith Forde community, glad to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to be here, glad to be here. Stuff and things,
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  Speaker 1: coral stuff and things. All right, key Forde released news articles. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: should we read them? Verba them Ai style. I was
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  Speaker 1: looking more just to piss off Sheep and clearly it worked.
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  Speaker 1: But we we got our first look at the early
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  Speaker 1: Bloor reveal for Portland being the first one that is up.
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  Speaker 1: It will be the more Wolves. Wonder how they got
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  Speaker 1: that idea?
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  Speaker 3: This one.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't steal from us, all right, cool, just me
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  Speaker 1: or like any everybody else here.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they picked an art and that's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: They clearly chose more wolves because the more wolves are
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  Speaker 1: from the Portland area. No, yes, yes so they you so,
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  Speaker 1: so I put some thought into it.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean if you actually read the article that there
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  Speaker 2: was actual thought. They even explained that one to you.
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  Speaker 1: Boys. Oh there's reading involved. I didn't do any of that,
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  Speaker 1: but there will be fifty of them. Are these prints like?
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  Speaker 1: Are these like in a plaque? Like what? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: If it's a fight, it's a print like it's art.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, keep scrolling down, man.
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  Speaker 1: I understand it's like it's is it? Do I get
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  Speaker 1: the plaque too?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. But because I made this, we're totally
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  Speaker 3: in the wrong channel. So that's awesome. What do you
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  Speaker 3: mean we're in the Patreon channel?
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  Speaker 2: You're in the patret which is why I actually couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get in.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so we Yeah, that would be probably why let's
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  Speaker 1: go to the regular one and try try that. This
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  Speaker 1: is why we let's see, let's name it. This is
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  Speaker 1: why we don't let sheep do stuff. Oh okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: and this is why we don't let sheep do things,
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  Speaker 1: boys and girls.
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  Speaker 2: I can read show notes. I really should subscribe to
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  Speaker 2: our patreon. That's that's what I should do.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to create some editing work for you.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean editing work? This is going We're
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  Speaker 1: we're raw dogging it rod dogging whoa. I've been editing work?
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  Speaker 1: Should I redo it? You guys want me to restart? No? Hello?
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  Speaker 3: To edit it out?
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  Speaker 1: Hello? Can you go? Hello?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 1: So, for all of you who missed it, which was
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  Speaker 1: all of you in the live chat, because this is
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  Speaker 1: why we don't let sheep do stuff. He put us
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  Speaker 1: in the Patreon channel, but now we're in the regular
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  Speaker 1: live channel. Are somewhat apologies to that, but here we are.
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  Speaker 1: So we're talking about the more wolves, talking about the
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  Speaker 1: early bloor of Reveil for Portland. For those of you
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  Speaker 1: who are going, you will get a five by seven
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  Speaker 1: print and I am assuming in a nifty frame.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about the frame.
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  Speaker 1: You're not what we're not sure about the frame?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they are double sided. They are double
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  Speaker 2: sided prints, which is pretty cool. And unlike Mike cos
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  Speaker 2: here there is reading. And there was a reason why
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  Speaker 2: more wolves were chosen.
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  Speaker 1: So I like, more wolves? Is there another was there
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  Speaker 1: a different reasoning? Do we lose we walk again? Okay?
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  Speaker 3: No, it says example Champion.
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  Speaker 2: This was piece we felt embodied the spirit of Portland
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  Speaker 2: and it's fine. It's grand forests and so that is
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  Speaker 2: part of the reason.
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  Speaker 1: So I.
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  Speaker 3: Question, so this framed one, Yeah, is that replacing the
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  Speaker 3: crystal trophy?
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, it says special additions, as if the serialized
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  Speaker 2: five by seven's were not special enough. We also developed
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  Speaker 2: an even more limited run of five ultra exclusive eight
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  Speaker 2: by ten prints that will be given out at the events. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea if they're replacing I don't believe.
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  Speaker 1: I will give somebody five dollars. And I'll even extend
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  Speaker 1: this to the audience. I will give somebody five dollars
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  Speaker 1: if they could pronounce the artist of the more Wolf
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  Speaker 1: more Wolf's name. Do I need to kick it up
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  Speaker 1: to ten? I don't even know where it is. It's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you go, like kind of right after the picture
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  Speaker 1: more Wolf created by.
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  Speaker 3: Nisia Legmagma.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so we got to see this. Would I
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  Speaker 1: not be surprised if they were handing out these art
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  Speaker 1: pieces as your new trophies. I would not.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Champion will receive an eight x ten version of the
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  Speaker 1: art print, with the US champions receiving a framed version.
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  Speaker 1: Framing for international championships will be at the discretion of
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  Speaker 1: our local event partners. You know what this means, replace
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  Speaker 1: the Crystal Trophy. No, instead of serialization, each champion print
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  Speaker 1: no to which the three competitive formats the champion has
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  Speaker 1: won sealed ARCon or Alliance. This is replacing something though.
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  Speaker 1: Are they not doing play mats.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's just an addition.
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  Speaker 1: But I like that.
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  Speaker 2: There are the five Ultra Exclusive, which is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit different size and honestly it's a fellowship award. Can
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and throw it out randomly, or you could
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  Speaker 2: potentially have it for people who are new to the
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  Speaker 2: event's first time or having a great time, just setting
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  Speaker 2: a great experience for the event. Like, there are lots
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  Speaker 2: that you could do with this, and.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing get a fellowship award.
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  Speaker 2: For all the friends down at the bottom tier, especially
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  Speaker 2: with too l O where it's been in the past.
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  Speaker 2: If if you're out after two rounds.
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  Speaker 3: Fellowship It's like it's like the Booby Prize of key Ford.
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  Speaker 2: You know what if there's something.
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  Speaker 1: If I lost, did I not have? I would be
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  Speaker 1: very happy.
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  Speaker 2: Did we not have some nice prizes for this week
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  Speaker 2: for our store Championship? Yes, while it does not entice.
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  Speaker 3: U, shape just disappeared.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, you were totally m I A.
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  Speaker 1: But while some of us are not.
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  Speaker 3: So obsessed with the material world.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and that's great. Well, there are all individuals that
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  Speaker 2: enjoy cheap little chot skis that there is.
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  Speaker 1: Wak is a material girl. So we all know this, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but what were the cheap chatskeys?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't there either. I was I was with I
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  Speaker 1: was with my my wife. She was getting all her
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  Speaker 1: teeth pulled, literally all of them. I hope better man
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  Speaker 1: and I and I and and while and so get this.
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  Speaker 1: While I was waiting a big cough. Sorry, while I
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  Speaker 1: was waiting in the waiting room, I was playing KEYBOARDI
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  Speaker 1: of Pete nice. I had my laptop, I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 1: had my tablet with me, and Pete challenged me in
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  Speaker 1: his SaaS Champs. If you haven't checked out the SaaS Champs,
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  Speaker 1: I highly encourage you to do as such, he challenged my.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what is it fifty eight? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what sass when I plunk down in But
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  Speaker 1: Pete challenged me, and then UH realize double Horseman isn't
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  Speaker 1: as easy to get through as he thought. Right, people,
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  Speaker 1: work is pretty good. Actually, I've had to play against it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, back on the Code of Days. It was
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  Speaker 1: not topsass competitive, but it definitely well, it's nice when
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  Speaker 1: you have uh well, I mean double horseman means you're
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed eight creatures in sanctum House, right.
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  Speaker 3: To fish for them and do everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, they can play with you. The one of the
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  Speaker 1: horsemen fishes for other horsemen. One of the horsemen deals
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  Speaker 1: damage to everything that isn't a horseman. One of the
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  Speaker 1: horsemen lets you fight with everything, and then one I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure what the other one does.
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  Speaker 3: Lets everybody fight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one of war. One lets you one
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  Speaker 1: lets you kill the least powerful creature.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thatund's pretty good. That's pestilence, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pestilence. And then war lets you fight with everybody.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't remember the other two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were cool, but ever good.
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  Speaker 1: They were cool.
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  Speaker 2: You guys like to actually talk. So you have Horsemen
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  Speaker 2: of Death. I have power return each horseman creature from
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  Speaker 2: the discard pile to your hands. Yeah, okay, you have
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  Speaker 2: Horsemen of Famine also five power play after fight after reap,
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  Speaker 2: destroy the least powerful creature. Yeah, you have Horsemen of Pestilence.
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  Speaker 2: Five power play after fight after reap. Deal one to
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  Speaker 2: each non horseman creature, and then Horsemen of War five
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  Speaker 2: power play for the remainder of the turn. Each friendly
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  Speaker 2: creature can be used as if if they were the
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  Speaker 2: active house, but can only fight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all these are true. You guys are pretty good,
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  Speaker 1: pretty close with that. And I almost key abducted. I
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  Speaker 1: was so the the deck has a key abduction and
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  Speaker 1: he kept forgetting what is it the guy that when
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  Speaker 1: he reaps he gets the archive of a card he's in.
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  Speaker 3: He's in.
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  Speaker 1: He's a nice chist. Yeah, the is it the archivist
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  Speaker 1: in logos getting meat archivists? Yeah, logos Hello good s. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's two of those in there with a replication
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  Speaker 1: with a replica. Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's riding in some horsemen.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was whipping up. I was whipping up
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  Speaker 1: on Pete with my double Horseman deck this week, my
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  Speaker 1: very first, and he sold it for a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Now I should you definitely should have, because now it's
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  Speaker 1: worth nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, that double Horseman was worth a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: sunk back in the day, but not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very true as well. I don't think when
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  Speaker 1: I pulled it it was worth anything either, But because
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was far too late in the life
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  Speaker 1: cycle and people realized horsemen weren't that good.
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  Speaker 3: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: But that does it for our early blorbs. So who
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: wants to make fun of ghost Galaxy? Next? For just
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  Speaker 1: now trying to partner with people for twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: National Championships.
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  Speaker 2: Well, while you're there, I will you can go through that.
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  Speaker 2: But I do give them props. They made some five
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  Speaker 2: ultra exclusive prints they're trying. They connected it to Portland,
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  Speaker 2: so each each of these images is unique.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: There are people who really like the more wolves and
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  Speaker 2: it is a sweet print. I will give them credit there.
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  Speaker 2: So before we go, well done, it's gonna look great,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm excited to get that, yep.
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  Speaker 1: But National Championship well okay, so I get it. Like
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  Speaker 1: more Wolves Portland, the more wolves, the team, the key
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  Speaker 1: competitive key forge team is the more wolves they're in
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  Speaker 1: that that Portland area, that that's like their home.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: What's the chance wayn get St. Louis to be.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: What what would stl would Saint Louis be?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it hasn't been chosen, so what would Yeah, what
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  Speaker 2: would you guys?
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  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 1: You can put it in for now Louis. Compare Louis
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  Speaker 1: and then what is it? Is it redacted for uh
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  Speaker 1: for Baltimore?
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  Speaker 5: For Baltimore, Yeah, over over the Baywitch something or other
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  Speaker 5: because that would be similar to Portland.
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  Speaker 1: Oh shoot, I forgot about the Bay Witches. But there's
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  Speaker 1: no Baywitch card. But there is a there is a
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  Speaker 1: redacted card.
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  Speaker 5: True, I mean there's there's like, uh, there are in
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  Speaker 5: terms of.
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  Speaker 1: Custom arts, like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I think that'd actually be weird
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  Speaker 3: to use a person custom mark card for.
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  Speaker 1: It might be a little strange.
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  Speaker 2: Witch queen.
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  Speaker 1: Mean witches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a couple of things you could
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  Speaker 2: do with it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll have to just wait and see what they
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  Speaker 1: choose for all the other ones. Then after that one,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: they released another article they're looking for partners for the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty twenty six National Keyboards Championships for I'm
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  Speaker 1: guessing this is all overseas and it's not a guess
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  Speaker 1: because that's just how they do things now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And then go.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is this is this is your spot
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  Speaker 1: you walk, This is where you complain.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anything.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean, April? It is Q We are
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  Speaker 1: at the end of Q one.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, if they ran it in the past and they
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  Speaker 3: want to run it again, it's not like there's anything
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  Speaker 3: surprising here.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, sure because people obviously, people in Europe's
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  Speaker 1: time is just a lot easier to spend than people
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  Speaker 1: in the US's time. They're not as busy over there. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're looking it between August first and October fourth,
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  Speaker 2: so it still is a ways away. They had reached
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  Speaker 2: out earlier, and you have who you've run in the past,
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  Speaker 2: So this is just another plea in my opinion, Right,
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  Speaker 2: am I missing something?
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  Speaker 3: This is this is the like, oh, maybe there's somebody
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  Speaker 3: who hasn't run one in the past. I would want to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you think or is this nobody's asked us yet?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, I mean we are the cockroach of dead
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: card games.
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  Speaker 2: Hey we've survived. Yeah, we've survived all their games. So
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  Speaker 2: I think we're fine. And I think there's some vibrant scenes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can go ahead and look at Brazil,
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  Speaker 2: which is super excited to have their vault that's coming.
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  Speaker 2: Vietnam looks like it's going to have an incredible turnout.
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  Speaker 2: France is coming up over the fourth of July with good,
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  Speaker 2: good numbers.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's I think we're shipping a sheep over there,
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  Speaker 1: aren't We Still long shot? Still a long shot? Okay, Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's a little bit odd to have
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  Speaker 2: nationals and vaults still.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know why we just don't call them
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  Speaker 1: all vaults because there's really no distinction between the two vaults.
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  Speaker 5: Are vaults are run by have far more control over
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  Speaker 5: vaults than they do?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nationals, I think it just comes down to control.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that, but outside of it, it's I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think there's enough discrepancy. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're both premier events. I I think back in FFG era,
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  Speaker 2: it was potentially the larger player base and so the
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  Speaker 2: separation was a little bit more distinct, but not even
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  Speaker 2: at that point, it still was not terribly different.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's my hot take, but is there really a
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  Speaker 2: need for us to have vaults and nationals or can
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  Speaker 2: we just claim that they're all vaults the nationals because
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  Speaker 2: they're all premier events.
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  Speaker 3: Nationals, well, yes, but nationals have lesser prizing and they're
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  Speaker 3: cheaper to run. They don't have the same people or
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  Speaker 3: minimum people space requirements there they are a tier down.
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  Speaker 2: I hear that, But here's my here's my question, why
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  Speaker 2: are we setting those parameters? Can we just all place
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  Speaker 2: them at the national level instead of all the vault?
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  Speaker 2: Would that go ahead and draw more people in? Is
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  Speaker 2: that really limiting factor at this point?
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's semantics at this point. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it really.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's where I'm at. It is like,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, I think that we're enjoying.
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  Speaker 3: Different tier events with different prizing, so therefore they're different.
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  Speaker 2: We've established Yeah, GG has established them as different, but
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  Speaker 2: really do they need to be That's the question.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, do you want thirty two cap player vaults?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Does Nationals cap at thirty two?
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  Speaker 3: It depends they have far more ability to cap Nationals
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  Speaker 3: due to play based size, like they can. That's up
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  Speaker 3: to the store who's running it. And as we remember,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: we see in the past that only have Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 3: some twenty four player Nationals going on.
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  Speaker 2: Well there was the Nationals that had four people?
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  Speaker 3: Was it was.
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  Speaker 2: It for last year for one of the Alliance matches.
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to go back into our counter cannup.
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  Speaker 3: For that and yeah, wait, wait, don't count alliance.
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  Speaker 2: That's just well, but it was, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a count that matters, Yes, it is. This
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  Speaker 1: is the only thing that now matters anymore is the
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  Speaker 1: sealed head count.
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  Speaker 2: But if that's all that, Matt, if that's all that matters,
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  Speaker 2: our max sealed head count has gotten us to what
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  Speaker 2: like that? That's what I'm saying, is it really necessary
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  Speaker 2: for us to separate out? I know that we have
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  Speaker 2: different prizing, we have different amounts, but.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'm kind of shrugging my shoulders. It going,
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  Speaker 2: they're all what we're going to see as premiere events.
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  Speaker 2: You have a lot of the same individuals who are attending.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, but why why do they Why would they be.
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  Speaker 2: The same, Why would they not be the same?
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  Speaker 1: Why why are they different?
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  Speaker 3: Because one is run to the Vault Tour standard and
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  Speaker 3: the other one is not.
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  Speaker 4: Man theory something like allow adaptive make it crazy?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Well, they can they can play nationals at vaults, or
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: they can play Adaptive at vaults too. It's just not
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: one of the three core formats.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Right that adapt at all? Is it?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying, it's not one of the recognized
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the need to.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Talk to adaptive guys that hard.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not just it's just, it's well, it's the rule book.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to do, Like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I guess, I'm just.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Isn't a format? And it is?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: But but we're not like, hey, we need to have
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a vault tour where shutter is a format, Like we're
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: not get like that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Well, but but if we look at nationals how they've
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: been running the past. Everyone is still running Alliance Sealed
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and arcan. They are on different days so that each
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: gets its own day internationally versus what we see here Stateside.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: But if you if you look at it outside of
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: prizing and the requirements for having a higher cap amount
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: for Vault tour, like one and two both qualify for
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Worlds at nationals and at Worlds. So again the real
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: question do we need to separate out and really differentiate
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: nationals from worlds? Is it worth that separation?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: In the title, I.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Thought we all said yes to this and just keep
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: saying but.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Do we No, I don't think. I think I think
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you're the only one that said I don't know why
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: we need to differential, like just call them all one thing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, why the same thing, because we've established that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: But my question is why why does it matter at all?
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: There?
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I think there's something cool about that terminology to be
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: the national champion of something attract and.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Draw, but is it okay? So like the which is
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: bigger a national like I'm a national champion or I'm
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a Vault Warrior, which has more draw there?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Obviously Vault Warrior clearly well here right, because way more
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: accolades and titles and dinner. It comes with a dinner.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I guess that's the big difference.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Dinner. I always forget about the day I'm dinner because
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: some of us haven't won a vault tour, so we
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: don't get a dinner. Some of us did win a
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: vault to her and still don't get a dinner.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Would you like to be my plus one? This year?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: They allowed this one? Sir, No, they don't have enough.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Only imagine the clowns that would show off with plus
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: one that way, here's my here's here's my here's my
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: twelve and a half foot tall plus one and it's
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: you know, Wookie with Ewok on his shoulders. I'm drazzing
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: his shoulders in a trench cout.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be amazed we could do it. Yeah, we
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: got this, that's right.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I do think I mean to go back to it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I will say I think the Vault Tour status is higher,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: like it is seen as a larger accomplishment, but to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: take down any event is still a big accomplishment. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: you're all getting into worlds. The difference is you get
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a trophy and you have I got three.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I can make trophies for anything you want a trophy for.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You want a trophy for Star Championships, I can make
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you on.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: If you actually read here, Nationals are functionally capped at thirty.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: They only provide I can read that correct.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: So there's just a different tier of event.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean if you read further though, they do
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: say that they are GIGI is willing to work with
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you if you feel that you have a larger size
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: and they can potentially provide two different can if you have.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: A truly larger size than you want a vault or
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: you can go through the Shenanigans to run an actual
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: vault ye, which includes I think that's how much this is.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I guess for me, the realization there is that the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: separation between Nationals and vaults is pretty antiquated at this
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: point that it's not really necessary. I think it's more
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: regional silly decks. Yeah, no, don't they get don't they get?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Don't they don't get? They don't not national?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But which it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Would it pissed j mL off or if if all
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: the nationals got.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: If whatever whatever version of this argument.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: It.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So did I just switch sides?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: No, you didn't because Canada, Canada only gets a national
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they don't get a vault to her.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: They don't get sack out right.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Right, So j I'm still yeah, So all right, I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: went back to ship side no vote. We had a flop.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Dras came over here and you you walked over to.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't think it matters.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I got to cant vault masters out of the hands
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of jam whatever.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: There some separating points, and yes, I think that we
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: have established what those points are, but I just don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: think they really matter in the long term.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be easier just to have one term.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you're gonna call it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And I think there is back in logistics that make
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: that harder to do than your thinking about.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Going forward, We're now gonna.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Call it beyond beyond the dinner and and and Vault
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Master decks. What what else is there?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I mean those are two big ones.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I mean they are. I mean every year the dinner
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: gets a little bit bigger. At what point are they like, man,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: we can't afford this dinner no more?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: And uh you are? I actually don't know what their
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: requiredness for charging for Vault Tours is now, but like
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Nationals have always been cheaper than Vault Tours fair.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't get a goodie bag at a Nationals,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you do at a Vault Tour. I guess that's.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Whatever you do. You get one deck.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Listen, I like my key Forde draw string bags. Okay,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: they hold a lot. One's holding a first aid kit
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: right now. One is holding a lot of the like
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: emergency supplies in both of my vehicles, right, So I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: got I got one in one in the Saturn, one
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: in the Kia. Right So, I mean I'm running out.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I need more. I don't need I leave.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: People event much like I do with my decks.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I still got my store championship deck
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: on open one day, I'll play it. Where did it go?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: There it is, speaking of sheep, how was key Forge
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: for you this past week?
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: It was fine?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: What are you poking at?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: We played our Doork Championship Amber Skies and I lost
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: to the new guy.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, our new guy did take down danger Boat. Congrats me,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: good for him? Down our sealed?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good for him.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: What's the what's the I was are poking sheep about
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: losing things?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: But oh, why wouldn't you public, mister perfect for not
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: even showing up?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we have to poke you then for not
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: showing up.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, my wife married, has zero children.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, we don't know if he was really restricted from
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: being able to come out. I mean there there was
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a boy Scout group that was out a couple of
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: weeks before he was.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like we crossed. I feel like we crossed
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a territory. Were across.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are private storage out because those aren't for
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: public consumption.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: We love perfect and that is not it at all,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: loves the right term.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But pick up perfect that there you go, there you go.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: You love our locals all all of them. Got a
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: puffer vest here. I could make an a And we.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Also need to be more positive sheep, So come on,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: be more positive positive.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I know positive when there's something to be positive about.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Sheep is the right amount of positive about KeyForge. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: will give him that he's the correct amount of positive. DRez.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Do you agree with this statement that Sheep is positive?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no no. Hold on, I said he
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: is the correct amount of positive, not that he's right.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He is the correct amount of positive when it comes
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to Keyfge. No, no, no.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: This game is alive and we have organized play in
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: a vault tour. This is good, and we have a
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: storyline of logically separate nationals.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's I mean, we can agree, but whatever,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: all right, that was not the purpose of this week's episode.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how we went down the broad
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I more wanted to poke fun at them because I'm like,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: listen and it's Q two and they're just now trying
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to get Nationals going. Okay, not just.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Trying to get Nationals going, they're just putting up the
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: official postume. Like I said, if you were running Nationals
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: in the past, you already know what you're doing for
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: this year. Probably, I guess if.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You want to go ahead and resubmit for that, all right, Like,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: there are some areas that did. Look at they've held
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: vaults in the past, and they have chosen not to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: run them this year. So again we need to poke
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the bear and keep things changed.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I think coming and going has far more to do
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: with the cost and how much they lost running the
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: vault than it is that they would actually want to do.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: It's just the fact that they lose money running them
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: and they go, hey, it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Stinks we've run this. Yes, we know this. So we
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: appreciate all of the different locations that are running vaults
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and for those that again have the option to run
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: nationals at a different price point, and we appreciate all that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Do we think there's than be any new nationals this
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: year like any that did not run at previous years.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna lie to as I think you're
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: going to see a lot less.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: How could there be a lot less than last year?
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: How many were there last last year?
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Not many?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was quite a few, like a.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Half dozen, right there was?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: There was not many?
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're definitely not leaning into the internet.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Compared to the first year. There was a huge reduction.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Compared to year one. Yes, yes, you are not incorrect
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: at all. There I can't. I can't tell you you're wrong, but.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Yep, yes it has deep We're going to the source
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: that knows things.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: They keep arkan Arkana people.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, eleve countries, thirty three champions, so there's thirty three
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: nash for there were eleven nationals and twenty five.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: How many?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: It's actually more than I remembered.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: It looks like there might have only been ten and
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: twenty four.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Really were there more four?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I guess maybe it was similar. Maybe it's been pretty
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: similar right around.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: The ten to twelve, around twelve.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So even as I pull up our old
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: you know, international vaults from last year sealed, because that's
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: what you guys said was our numbers that we're looking at.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the one that shows you your actual size
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: of the event.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So Spain had thirty eights at the end of October,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: you had the twenty seventh for Vietnam, was thirty three
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: for Sealed, and thirty five with for China. So even
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: just looking at those numbers, you know we're still sub forty.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: So yes, technically a cap of thirty two limits some people,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: which I don't want to see. But that's interesting.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Depressing. When are we going to found our own country.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: We can do our own Where.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Are we going to rent a cruise ship and just
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: do what?
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: We have a cruise ship now?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Now everybody spending all their money to go to freaking Vietnam.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. That's true.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean Vietnam is an amazing location that
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: we all need to go to, is it?
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. I'm pretty excited.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Now if you are not going to because now what
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: prices and tickets have gone up because fuel?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so jell Yeah, jet fuel is uh definitely a problem.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And if you have no already booked, definitely look at it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah that I should have drazz what what what?
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: What day are you looking at being able to go in?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Are you flying in early?
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: M No, I'm just gonna do the dates that Ricu suggested.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: That was my thought at least.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: So are you going to be showing up right before
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the vault?
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like probably the night before, Like I I
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: gotta look at specific flight times, right, but yeah, probably
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: night before and then.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Do the.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, because the vault is the fourteen fifteen, sixteenth.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yeah, the running because we're in Philly.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Twenty to thirty hours of travel time.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's gonna be right.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: To thirty hours of flying and transferring plane to plane time.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: That doesn't include other transportation.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is not this is not all
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: flight time. You have quite a bit that is.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Changed transfer playing the plane. But it's you're from I
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: mean bars Off. Yeah, you're going to be on a
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: plane for what like fifteen to like sixteen hours.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Probably it's gonna depending on your route.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: So because it's harder now to go through the Middle East, right,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: so now you're going the other way, right, you're going
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: through one or Hong Kong or Sale or like. So, yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: there's not really there's not really much. The way it
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: direct flights I did there is a direct flight from
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: San Francisco, So theory you could you could fly to
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: San Francisco and then fly direct, which isn't really direct
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: if you're not in San Francisco.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: But but instead.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Of changing uh in Asia, you can change in San
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Francisco if if you felt like that was the thing,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: I actually might do because my sister lives in San Francisco, so.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: That and you know, that might be a thing.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: But I think ticket prices will make a difference, right
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: because it is going to be times four for me.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're bringing everybody, He's bringing everyone.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: So like it was, yeah, we're in Philly.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: The uh so uh the yeah. Like I was like
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: talking to my wife, I was like, so there's this
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: like ball tour Vietnam and like, you know this guy
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: ever recoup But she always laughs because we use fake
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: internet names. Is like offering to host and show people
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: around and stuff. Next thing I know, she's telling the kids,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: we're going to Vietnam. So I'm like, okay, I guess
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: we're now you're going yip.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah if I can figure out some crazy way to
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: get a bunch of time off of work that I
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: have no idea how I'm gonna do. I don't know
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: if I could see going and not bringing my kid,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: but at thirteen, I also don't know if that would be.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: He'd be interested.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Well I know he would be interested, but how much
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: can't we do because I have a thirteen year old.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I will have a.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Fifteen and a seventeen, so oh boy, oh boy, this
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: could spell danger.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: So so yeah, I either just have to bite the
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: bullet and buy tickets now, or roll the dice that
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: they're going to come down in a month, but I
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: shouldn't be too much longer.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: They're not.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you they're not gonna come down
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: with what we have worn the Middle East with where
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you're just it's not yeah, it's not coming down, so
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: draz I mean even just just earlier this week, the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: CEO of Americans said, if you have not bought your
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: tickets for summer, it's just going to go up, and
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: that's what they're expecting. That being said, I still think
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a great time. I would I
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: would let people know that if you are flying into
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Vietnam for the Vault Tour, you do actually need to
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: have a visa, and that was something that I did
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: not know ahead of time. So that's ninety days, so
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: plan on that it is not showing up. Like when
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I go to Aruba, I can go on the flights
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and grab it, but for Vietnam it needs me ninety days.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: It's easy enough to fill out and it's still very
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: very open. The other thing to be aware of is, yes,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: we already talked about the drastic time difference, so flight
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: is there. You're kind of multiple different days from the Midwest,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I can actually fly out of Chicago and we can
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: go Lax and then Lax to Tokyo, and then from
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Tokyo it's another six hours to Vietnam to Chi minh
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: our segan. So yes, looking at that, there is no
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: direct direct flight, but be aware that some Chinese airlines
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: have actually canceled flights from the US. So I definitely
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I stayed away from China that reason.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't China air for.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Just to be aware.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Mean there's definitely I was. I was looking up different
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: uh airlines. There's some Taiwanese airline that had good prices
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: that seemed yep, Cambo a good airline, just based on
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: what I was reading.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm very I think it's going to
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: be an amazing Yeah. I think it's gonna be an
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: amazing vaults and an amazing trip and experience as a whole.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: So sheep, Wookie, you should definitely get your butts there.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Ah, I'll give it happen.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Just drop two grand on that ticket.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I will definitely think about it. How's that? How does
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: that sound to everybody?
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, you know.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: What, I I know you're not a big flyer, Wookie,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: what do we got to do and entice you?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: What do you got to do to entice me? Yes,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of money, has a lot of money.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of money. And I don't know if
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I could really like justify a trip to a foreign
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: country without Amanda.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: What if there was a magical way that you did
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: not have to pay the money, but.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: You were able to.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Go with the team. With the team, so it means
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: it's just you. So if money was not if if
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: money's not the restriction for you, if it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Was just if money wasn't a restriction, I'd probably be there. Okay,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: it would be a problem, remember the family. No, but
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: do remember I am trying to buy a house right now,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: so easy crushers are expensive houses are, and well.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: They seemed to be getting more expensive every day.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And I was saying they seem to be going up.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Well and rates are going back up too now.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: So rates are going back up and uh, well we'll see.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a long story right now, actually
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: working with with our deal, with our our person, our
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: real did you just say, dealer.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: Get me one line of house because just a little
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: bit it's all I need one more, just one more.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Working with our our agent and I was told to
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: maybe hold off for a little bit, and I was
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: like really, and then she's like, yeah, I would and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I was like okay, so well we'll see. It depends,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you know. It's like I told my wife, Uh, wherever
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: we move, I'm dying in that place.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: So make sure it's like is I mean, it's a
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: lot to move. And then and then if you find
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: a place you like, right, you know, like want to
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: move again.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: No I don't. I don't ever like I don't ever
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: want to move again. I want to move into a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: house and barring like the deal of a lifetime or
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: like the house of a life time, you know, barring
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: anything crazy, right, something like that, I will die wherever
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: wherever we move next.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: See you say this. I just thought, you know, your
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: beautiful wife, and man, it was gonna take you out there.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: But I mean that's ever that is always also a possibility.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: It is I mean, you guys and and already hate me.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: She has to see me every day. House this this sea,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: see or somewhere with like a place that I can
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: just be right like.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Bicking off house. They'll be bury in the backyard.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Do my projects and uh talk to to internet people
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: online and play Vida games three D prints all day.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I have this sweet, sweet gaming computer I bought from
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: my store like two and a half years ago. I've
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: yet to load a single video game onto.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, I can enjoy.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I just got a new computer. I've enjoying uh sper.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: Punk actually, but oh yeah, yeah it's yeah, it's a
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: ton of fun. Briefly, it's fun enough where I briefly
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: was like, maybe I should like back kickstart this card game.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, no, actually, no, I definitely don't want.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: You don't want to drop eight grand on the Hyper
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Deluxe Bundle with all the all the stuff.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: No no.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: I was like, maybe maybe I'll do one of the
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: small tiers, but I was like.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Nah, I don't read. Yeah.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if only there was another game you could Yeah,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: if only there was another game you could drop like
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: eight grand on, I'm sure they'd be appreciative.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I could just buy multiple art pledges, right, Yeah,
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: what's this traffic?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I think not. I think you should get an art
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: pledge for everyone in your family and your pets.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I don't how many pets but you know, well you
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: get you need to get.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Some for the art project and then you can return
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: it back be like I got the picture. I just
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: needed a puppy. Puppy for the picture. It's ten thirty
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: at night.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Why why is it? Why is it? Why are we
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: stopped to the highway?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: This sucks because you live in Philadelphia? Yeah, that's why. Yes,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you think you live. Some I'm
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: sorry for your loss. Like light up ahead, Well we
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: were going to talk about first turn plays today. That
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: didn't happen.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: It sure didn't. Where are we at on time? Oh?
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: I mean we got I like to flop horseman first turn?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: That's not no I did. I was beating up Pete
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: with horsemen. That's where we started because the SaaS Champs.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Pete thought he was just going to come in and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: swoop and take me out. Uh. And then and then
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I was like I was because I was at seven
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, please like take me off key because
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: this will be funny. And then he took me all
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the way down to one and I'm like, well, no, ship,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: now I can't do it. But if he would have
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: taken me down to five, just just short of of
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: of of uh, just short of forging a key. I
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: could have key abducted him for the third key, which
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: would have been the funniest thing ever, because it is
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: not it is It is not like it has no
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: way to draw cards, just has archivists in it. And
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: he took his sweet time killing those things. And so
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I've got two of those plus a replicator. Quick, everybody,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: without looking it up, what does replicator do? Uh, it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: like reap effect of another creature.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Close.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I was gonna mix up with like mimic gel.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very close, because it's it is reap. You
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: can you can you can use you can what is it?
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: You can use the effect of another creature that is
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: on which I don't think it's necessarily a reap effect.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Either way, I wanted to archive cards, so it didn't
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: really matter. So I was like archivist archivist replicator and
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: they didn't kill him, and I was like, well, I'm
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: just gonna do it again archivist arcava. And then I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, I could possibly key abduct if
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: he does the so that would be hilarious. And then
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: he took me all down and one couldn't.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Duct replicator two power mutants reap trigger the reap effective
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: that one of.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: The first mutants, by the way, is if you.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Control that creature. Yes, it is a reffec a rep effect. Okay,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: it says reap trigger the reap effect of another creature
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: in play.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I already wanted to already, I already knew what I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: wanted to do with it, because I'm like, I want
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to I want to archive cards. So we still got
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to finish our game currently. That ducks up one oh,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and then like fifty eight. It's not it's not a
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: good deck. It was a good deck, just it just
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: has wow and and you want to know what's great
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: is it gets rid of all those crummy sanctum actions
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that you had in coda right and just fills them
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: with creatures and turns out a low side way.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: The only problem with double double Horseman is you end
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: up with too much creature controling that reape kill the
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: slowest power guy ends up killing.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Him sometimes is your creature. Yes, that is a problem.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: That is a problem. But I mean when Pete walks
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: right into it, it's not a big deal. It's like, oh,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I have a two oh, Pete has a two power
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: creature too. I can just kill that thing because uh,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: it's good times sheeps. I think at the top of
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the leaderboard on the SaaS champs, how many do you shape?
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Now that's that's probably dexter.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Oh does he have things to he? He does he
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: have things to do?
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: No, he's up. He's a student team from home.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Okay. I was like, man, how is he at the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: top of everything.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Of key Forge?
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's not a bad player, but he also
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: like just has like ungodly amounts of time. I don't
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: understand where from And then not only that one, when
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: is when is the new minor season starting? I don't know, Sheep,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I need you to make.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Showed up and they're like, we don't want to find
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: with these there's more than nine people.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: We don't know what to do. I was already. I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: was like, let's let's do this. I still had a
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: lot of fun in minor. I'm having a lot of
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: fun with uh with uh Pete SaaS Championship too. Too
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: bad he didn't do like the draft score Championship. But
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, whatever, Pete, it's cool.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: We we I I discussed that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: With him, and we still decided to go with sas.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Huh. Well, the issue is is that nobody has their
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: collection in drasscore, and outside of those of us right here,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: nobody has enough entries to move their collection into dress Corps.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Got it? Got it?
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is run on very limited re sources, so we
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: can't just let people just mask down.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: True ye true, Speaking of did you pull any uh?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Did you pull any uh April Fool Shenanigan's Drass Corps.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: No, I've been I've been away at a conference. So
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: I just flew back from Colorado Springs, which.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I had never been to. Colorado Springs is beautiful, So.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: What was what was the big When did they just
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: messed with scores on on SaaS? Yeah?
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: It was actually pretty hilarious, so like basically World's Collide rules,
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: So so basically that was like, oh, yeah, we like
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: bumped the scores of some cards that you know, counter
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: PV and so yeah, like my my, I had like
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty nine SaaS the World's Collide Deck
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: with like a legacy library access that I was like, yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: we're opening this deck and being like cool, a legacy
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: library access. But otherwise it was mediocre, But I guess,
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: you know, whatever. The goofy made up meta scores that
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: he added to the cards, so that for countering TV
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: really boosted it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: So it was I thought it was. I thought it
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: was fun, fun joke the day.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so don't you guys look at what your top
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: score deck was on.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: But I wish I would have now did I did?
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: It was?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that funny to me?
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: It was okay, it wasn't.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: It wasn't the deck that he paid the most money
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: for and that was immediately upset.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Was it a World's Glide deck because those seemed to
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: me to rocket to the top.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think so. Yeah, all my world
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Glide decks were at the top.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I did ask for ABR with our short league if
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: yesterday I could submit, because it's a eighty five SaaS reversal,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: if I could submit, But that did not happen.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Oh I didn't. I did already submit.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I did yesterday. But it's it was amber Sky's talk
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: in gr so it really wasn't impacted it. It made
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: me laugh.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: It was our joke. I would just like any of
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: my top Sas decks to be any good.
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: The Yeah, the top SaaS one I thought I saw
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: like the top Sas was like up to two D
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: and two or something like that. I took a screenshot
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: of the top Sas deck, but now I'm driving so
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: I can't look at it. But yeah, some random I
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: think it was World's Colide, some random World's Colide deck
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: was two two SaaS for for a day.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so, well didn't work to collide women.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Something over in? Where was it? It wasn't? Was it
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: another ones? Was it one of harms locals?
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Was it a.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I thought it was. I thought it was a World's Glide. Next. Sorry,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I like that had been kind that would be kind
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: of cool, but it was well, sorry, guys, And.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know if there was anything to you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Jacques being worlds Collide, that Dutch nove in that direction,
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: or they were just having fun adding a whole bunch
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: of points to various cards and that's just what popped
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: out the other side.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: My guess. My guess is much like much much of
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: column B Want Something joke that it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Was anti PV meta.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, what.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: In World's Clide is exactly anti PV meta.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Everything was okay to get discarded, so
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: it's worth a lot more sass.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Well, now it all makes sense.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: It was like if you looked at it was like
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: super powerful. I'd like ever control it head like.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Creature Niffle ape can battle through uh taunt. So you know,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: don't don't under aft, don't under evaluate the niffle. Okay, Yeah,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you learn your lesson. Sometimes Niffle a not not not
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: terrible not terrible.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Power flashes. Guys, I got power flashes going on.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually just had one too. So I think
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: if you are not from the Greater Wisconsin area, we
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: are having another one of those storms that might flood
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: all of it, that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Might take another tree down of my house.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, last time it was snowy tree. This time
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: it's rainy tree. Right, But we are we are.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: My yard might be soaked enough for a tree just
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: to fall out of it.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we did have the flood last year
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that stopped State Fair, and this one's kind of being
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: crazy too. So we'll see how this goes. But I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: think this is where we'll end it. We kind of
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: had our BS talk. Can we talk about first turn
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: plays next week? Can we do that when Draascar is
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: not flying on a plane and I'm interesting because I
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: looked at some old school stuff when we talked about
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: this a few years ago, and things like the terror
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: came up. Uh yeah, was a treasure map or one
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: of the one of the maps? I can't remember it is.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Either of those cards. It's no longer good enough.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I know which is crazy?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: What what are? What are the first turn plays? Let
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: us know what your first turn plays are. We'll get
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: a few. We'll get a few. Stirred up the thens
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: versus now is all right? And with that being said,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I think we'll see you all next week.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Be fortunate.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Everyone.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Feel free to release another article at any time so
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: we can talk about stuff.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: May the Forge be with you.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Do Do Do, Do, Do do do put brand a
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: brand new? Can we on a brand new?
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: You know how we do?
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Dun paid?
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Which our brand new