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SORI (NOT TO) WORRY: Jose Soriano's dominance helps Angels salvage series against the Blue Jays · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Well, hey, Angel fans, welcome back to Halo territory. I
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  Speaker 1: am Mike D. Giovanna, former Ela Times Baseball writer and
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  Speaker 1: host of the show, joined by my regular co host
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  Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo, the former Angel slugger Mark. Happy Sunday to you.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great Mother's Day recording after Angels win. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: Halo hashtag all looked great on TV. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of smiles, a lot of celebrating, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Trent Rush being excited, and yeah, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was a good day for the Angel so we can
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  Speaker 2: get with some of the topics that that happened over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did lose two out of three in Toronto,
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  Speaker 1: so they lost a series, but we're able to salvage
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  Speaker 1: it with a pretty good win on Sunday. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the big storylines of two main storyline Sunday was
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  Speaker 1: Jose Soriano and boy, that first inning did not look good.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Through twenty five pitches, gave up a run, his velocity
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  Speaker 1: of his sinker and his fourth seamer was down by
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  Speaker 1: one to two miles an hour. He was yanking a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of sliders outside. We weren't sure if he.
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  Speaker 3: Was heard or not.
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  Speaker 1: And this was all coming off a four inning, five run,
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  Speaker 1: eight hit loss to the White Sox in his previous start. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: what was your concern level in that first inning?
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  Speaker 2: I messaged you almost immediately and said it didn't really
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  Speaker 2: look right, and it didn't why I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what I've been doing is just comparing it to the
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  Speaker 2: starts earlier in the season, some of those really really
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  Speaker 2: good ones, which may not be fair, but it didn't
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  Speaker 2: look anything like those starts and the stuff.
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  Speaker 3: The four seamer.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see a single one today that reminded me
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  Speaker 2: of what I saw previously. The knuckle curve, I did
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  Speaker 2: see one good one circa this bottom of seven thirty
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  Speaker 2: the eighth inning. Beyond that, it was kind of a slider,
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  Speaker 2: but the primary pitch to me was the sinker and
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  Speaker 2: the split finger were kind of the main weapons today.
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  Speaker 2: It just is to me a little bit curious because
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  Speaker 2: those other two pitches for steamer and curveball were such weapons,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know if he's lost the feel or
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  Speaker 2: where they've gone. The arm angle looked a little lower,
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  Speaker 2: not certain. At one point it looked like he was
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  Speaker 2: kind of shaking out his arm a little bit. I
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  Speaker 2: was hesitant, but you know, I did see something that
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  Speaker 2: looked like that, and the velocity was down, the command
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit worse, and at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day he's still pitched a fantastic game and almost
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  Speaker 2: made it through eight full innings. He at the end there,
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  Speaker 2: it looked like Kurt wanted to kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: do one of those manager moves. Ron Washington did a
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  Speaker 2: lot of those where you'd go out not take him out. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: the next guy got a hit, another one that challenged
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  Speaker 2: and didn't go the angel's way. He was safe, and
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  Speaker 2: then Kurt looked like it was kind of muttering on
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  Speaker 2: his way out afterwards, which is understandable. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: who if he thought that just the situation as a whole,
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  Speaker 2: or I think he was really pulling for his guy
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  Speaker 2: to make it through and kind of give you a
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  Speaker 2: nice boost of confidence. Nevertheless, a very nice game. The
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  Speaker 2: Blue Jays offense was stymying. They didn't really get anything
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  Speaker 2: going at all.
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  Speaker 1: Was the arm shake That little wiggle is at the
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  Speaker 1: tail when a guy might be hurt, and is that
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  Speaker 1: where you start to worry a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the sum total we've been talking about
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  Speaker 2: things not looking quite right. Can't quite put your finger
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  Speaker 2: on it. He said, he's fine after the neck and
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  Speaker 2: then what to me, the biggest thing is the stuff
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  Speaker 2: looks different. Doesn't mean that stuff isn't good. It just
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  Speaker 2: looks different. And I don't know why one would deviate
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  Speaker 2: off of the starts earlier on in the year.
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  Speaker 3: No, it is not.
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  Speaker 2: Fair to expect those results. But the stuff itself fundamentally
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  Speaker 2: does not look the same, and that might be a
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  Speaker 2: strategic thing. Maybe those other pitches that are a little
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  Speaker 2: newer or harder on the arm. I'm not sure. Never
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  Speaker 2: you know, he had a great game, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll just keep an eye on it. But maybe he'll
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  Speaker 2: make some comments and give some insights into what he's thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, after that first he retired twenty straight batters before
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  Speaker 1: him in his infield single on that eighth inning, and
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  Speaker 1: he needed only seventy eight pitches over the next six
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  Speaker 1: and two third inning, So very efficient from that point on,
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  Speaker 1: and what turned out to be a six to one
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  Speaker 1: Angels win did leave with the bases loaded. Sam Bachman
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  Speaker 1: came in to retire Vladdi Guerrera Junior with the bases
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  Speaker 1: loaded and Vladdi did represent the tying run in that situation,
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  Speaker 1: so another good outing from him and Ryan Zephyr John
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  Speaker 1: came in to finish up. Did you notice any sequencing
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  Speaker 1: changes or any major changes with story from that second
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  Speaker 1: ending on that allowed him to sort of cruise the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: I think his command improved, that he was pounding the
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  Speaker 2: strike zone better, and it seemed like they They're a
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  Speaker 2: team that doesn't hit a lot of balls in the air,
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  Speaker 2: although actually today Teodosio got quite a few. That might
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  Speaker 2: be another thing that you keep an eye on. Sinker ball,
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  Speaker 2: heavy pitcher getting more fly balls than Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 2: it's strange. I believe the Blue Jays. What I do
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  Speaker 2: know is they have well above average to excellent scouting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they would say excellent. I've seen a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of it. I have a friend that does their
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  Speaker 2: broadcast and and it's they analytics to the max. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that they what I saw from them. They
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  Speaker 2: won two out of three that first night, they only
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  Speaker 2: got three hits and managed to secure that victory a
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  Speaker 2: route in the second game, and then this game they
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  Speaker 2: were in a very good position until they put Eric
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  Speaker 2: lower in who to me looks like a DFA immediately.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a dig on the Angels offense. That stuff
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  Speaker 2: just isn't going to cut it. He's giving up a
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  Speaker 2: home run one every three point two winnings, which is
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  Speaker 2: a massive amount unsustainable at the big league levels. So
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  Speaker 2: credit to the Angels offense for taking advantage of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of a weak link in the Blue Jays. But
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  Speaker 2: they had they kept the writings in, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: what would have happened. It seems like right handed pitching
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  Speaker 2: right now has been much tougher for the Angels now.
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  Speaker 1: Surya's overall fastball velow for the entire game was down
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  Speaker 1: one mile an hour on both the four seamer and sinker.
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  Speaker 1: Any reason for concern there is that just sort of
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  Speaker 1: a natural, you know, fatigue factor setting in. He's had
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  Speaker 1: a pretty heavy workload and we're just you know a
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  Speaker 1: little over a month end of the season.
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  Speaker 2: I think you probably answered the question there. It's still
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  Speaker 2: more than enough velocity. I'm the last person that gives
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  Speaker 2: a rats about lighting up the gun.
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  Speaker 3: How about outs? I like outs.
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  Speaker 2: I like command and outs, and if you are able
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  Speaker 2: to do you know, the command part and you have
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  Speaker 2: the premium heat. That's great. You just have the premium
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  Speaker 2: heat and poor command. We know what that looks like.
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  Speaker 2: So credit to Sorry for not only a good start,
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  Speaker 2: but eating a lot of innings and saving that bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: Because the Guardians are coming up next and they have
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  Speaker 2: a competitive club yet again, I wonder.
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  Speaker 1: I think Story's next start will be against the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: at home on Friday, unless they they I think they
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  Speaker 1: have an off day on Thursday. It'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see if Kurt and the gang decide to use that
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  Speaker 1: off day to skip a fifth starter. We're still not
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  Speaker 1: quite sure who that fifth starter is going to be
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  Speaker 1: at this point. I think Grayson Rodriguez was scheduled to pitch,
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  Speaker 1: and Alec Manau is still down there in the bullpen,
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  Speaker 1: so we're still not sure what they're going to do
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  Speaker 1: with the Coakoos. Rian Johnson, another potential option, has apparently
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  Speaker 1: pitched every triple A.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he's so. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to Halo territory with Mike Di Giovanna
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  Speaker 1: and Mark Trumbo and our other big storyline off Sunday's
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  Speaker 1: game was provided by Joe Adell. Joe entered Sunday with
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  Speaker 1: a two sixty one average, six sixty ops, four homers
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  Speaker 1: and twenty one RBIs and forty games far off is
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  Speaker 1: seven seventy eight ops, thirty seven homer ninety eight RBI
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  Speaker 1: pace of twenty twenty five. Then he goes opposite field
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  Speaker 1: for a solo homer in the sixth inning and blast
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  Speaker 1: a four hundred and forty nine foot homer that left
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  Speaker 1: his bad at one hundred and fourteen point five miles
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  Speaker 1: an hour to left center in the night mark, what
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  Speaker 1: did you see in Joe swings today? And is this
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  Speaker 1: the guy who's ready to bust out?
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  Speaker 3: Great game for Joe Adell.
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  Speaker 2: He's been grinding away, he's been getting his hits actually
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  Speaker 2: recently some good at bats. Line drives, extra velocity, and
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  Speaker 2: today he was able to get the launch angle. But
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  Speaker 2: he was he got underneath some of those balls underneath
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  Speaker 2: it is not correct. He drove them and they were
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  Speaker 2: properly hit opposite field. One was very impressive, and then
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  Speaker 2: a mammoth shot after that, so I think he has
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  Speaker 2: done a lot of things really well. The ops is
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  Speaker 2: going to climb with these extra base hits.
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  Speaker 3: He had.
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  Speaker 2: Some doubles as well, so the signs are all pointing
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  Speaker 2: to him starting to really heat up. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that if that happens, this team gets a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: better in short order. Yeah, it was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: His average is actually up quite a bit, so he's
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  Speaker 1: making better contact his strikeouts. I think we're a little down,
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  Speaker 1: but the power numbers were surprisingly low. And Joe said
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  Speaker 1: he's been getting pitched a little differently this season. And
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Fletcher the Orange County Register wrote a fine story on
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  Speaker 1: him going into that Toronto series, where Adele mentioned how
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  Speaker 1: differently the league was pitching against him this year. Adele
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  Speaker 1: got hot last season when he went to a more
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  Speaker 1: aggressive approach, especially early in the count. Adele hit seventeen homers,
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  Speaker 1: almost half his total on the first pitch. This year,
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  Speaker 1: Adele said pitchers are treating him differently. Quote last year,
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  Speaker 1: I was getting pitches this time of year that I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen as much. Adele said. Their game plan has
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  Speaker 1: changed a lot of backwards pitching off speed early in
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  Speaker 1: fastballs later in the count at different parts of his own,
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  Speaker 1: But that's as I figured, so nothing surprised me. Mark
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  Speaker 1: is a former slugger. I know, like your rookie year,
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  Speaker 1: you were runner up to Rookie of the Year. What
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  Speaker 1: do sluggers do? And they know they can identify some
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  Speaker 1: of the holes and they start making the adjustments against you.
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  Speaker 3: You always hear this in the game. You know when
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  Speaker 3: they make.
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  Speaker 1: Adjustments, we have to adjust back. Was Joe a little
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  Speaker 1: slow maybe earlier this year and making whatever adjustments he
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  Speaker 1: needed to make, and what are those adjustments?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to hitting in the middle of the order, yet too,
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to get anybody that throws the Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles Angels first pitch fastball Cookies. Hasn't done a good
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  Speaker 2: job of scouting, There's no doubt about it. Zach Netto
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  Speaker 2: had three at bats today where he first pitch contact
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  Speaker 2: two pitches were well off the plate. He did hit
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  Speaker 2: a double down the line on one of those bats,
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  Speaker 2: and most people's in Joe included production on the first
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  Speaker 2: pitch is going to be quite good, not always, but usually.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't want to see our guys swinging at
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  Speaker 2: bad pitches out of the strike zone without you know,
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  Speaker 2: seeing any pitches beyond that making it out, especially a
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  Speaker 2: pop up or something that has very little chance to
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  Speaker 2: be successful. I think for Joe a lot of homer
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  Speaker 2: you know, was the thirty seven home runs last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the secrets out, so pitchers aren't going to do you
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  Speaker 2: any favors. He has done a better job. There is
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  Speaker 2: some tendency still to chase some of those sliders down
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  Speaker 2: in a way, but that goes for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Joe just needs to do what
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  Speaker 2: every good hitter that I've played with does is hunt
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  Speaker 2: mistakes in the middle of the plate. Doesn't necessarily have
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  Speaker 2: to be a fastball, but really doing what he can
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  Speaker 2: to eliminate some of those pitches that are just wildly
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  Speaker 2: out of the zone that at times he it's not
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  Speaker 2: auto swing, but I don't really know that the approach
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  Speaker 2: can waiver a little bit. He just needs to be
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  Speaker 2: very hard headed. Hunt middle end is what I think
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  Speaker 2: he does an excellent job with the way is not
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  Speaker 2: his strength, so middle middle end and if he gets
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  Speaker 2: it in that spot, you know, put an aggressive swing
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  Speaker 2: on it. I think he's matured, has what appears to
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  Speaker 2: be a much better idea kind of with two strikes,
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  Speaker 2: he's not taking those swing is where they quarkscrew into
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  Speaker 2: the ground off balance. I see a lot of those
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  Speaker 2: and two strike counts around baseball, and I hate it.
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  Speaker 2: So Joe is doing a better job. He looks like
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  Speaker 2: a more professional header to me.
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  Speaker 1: When you talk about hunting pitches for a hitter in
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  Speaker 1: the big leagues, is it mostly hunting fastballs or can
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  Speaker 1: you hunt a you know, if they're throwing Joe off speed?
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  Speaker 1: And I know, God if Mike Trout rarely swings at
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  Speaker 1: the first pitch, but we know whereas nitra zone is
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  Speaker 1: those sliders down on the zone. If he hunts a
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  Speaker 1: slider down on the zone on first pitch, If Joe
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  Speaker 1: Adoe hunts a slider middle ind is it just as
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  Speaker 1: easy to hunt on an off speed or is it
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  Speaker 1: more effective hunting against fast balls.
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  Speaker 2: The guys that have hunted, we're going to use that
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  Speaker 2: the best, in my experience, are the guys that.
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  Speaker 3: Drive the real.
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  Speaker 2: Nice cars and make a whole lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is it's very tough, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think most hitters benefit by hunting off speed pitches.
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  Speaker 2: The majority of him if we're talking about a garbage
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  Speaker 2: rolling breaking ball to steal a strike. That's that is
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  Speaker 2: That is when I think it does pay off. If
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  Speaker 2: a guy you properly scouted him, you've had enough at
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  Speaker 2: bats and you know he's liable just to try and
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  Speaker 2: steal a strike with a nothing little wrinkle, go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and belt that one. But if it's a guy with
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  Speaker 2: a you know, average to above average, you know offering,
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  Speaker 2: especially a guy that throws strike to ball, you know,
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  Speaker 2: breaking balls a lot, there's no reason to go up
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  Speaker 2: there because you're liable to probably swing at something that
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  Speaker 2: may look good to begin with and end up not
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  Speaker 2: so good. So I think staying on the fastball at
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  Speaker 2: all times is probably the best approach.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about Mike Trout. His
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  Speaker 1: overall numbers are still pretty good forty eight with a
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  Speaker 1: nine to thirty two ops, eleven homers, twenty three walks,
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  Speaker 1: thirty three runs, and forty games, but he has only
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  Speaker 1: two homers and one double and three RBIs in his
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  Speaker 1: last twelve games. Mark, are you seeing something with his swing,
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  Speaker 1: or his approach or his timing that looks a little off?
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  Speaker 2: I sent a picture to you with text that I
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  Speaker 2: think that we're going to be able to put up
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  Speaker 2: here at some point. Yeah, and this is just my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: so that's what it is. But it was always what
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  Speaker 2: I was always taught, and I do kind of well.
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  Speaker 3: I do agree with it.
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  Speaker 2: When the picture breaks his hands the hitters, especially if
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  Speaker 2: you're someone who has a leg kick of any you know, proportion,
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  Speaker 2: you should be kind of getting going. And if you
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  Speaker 2: have a toe tap even earlier, possibly Prince Fielder for example,
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  Speaker 2: that it did an excellent job maintaining that with a
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  Speaker 2: toe tap late kickwise, David Ortiz, many others. But you
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  Speaker 2: have to get your you know, you have to get
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  Speaker 2: it up in the early right now, Mike, it looks
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  Speaker 2: like he's late.
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  Speaker 3: That picture.
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  Speaker 2: To me, he kind of stood out, So I was
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  Speaker 2: wondering that was that pitch was a strikeout on kind
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  Speaker 2: of a breaking ball that wasn't really all that nasty,
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  Speaker 2: and I kind of went back and was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of happened there? And then, as I've said before,
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  Speaker 2: I saw him looking at video with Brady later in
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  Speaker 2: the game, and where I would start and end with
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  Speaker 2: the video is right there. I think that that tells me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're just not quite getting ready on time.
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  Speaker 2: It's something he can fix immediately in theory, so not
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  Speaker 2: that big a deal, but it's something he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo territory. We're going to turn
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: our attention to the bench and two guys who made
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: some pretty big contribution Sunday. Oswald Peerrazza had another big hit,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a two run homer that turned a one to zero
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: deficit into a two to one lead in the fifth inning,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and von Grissom capped the form run rally in that
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: fifth with a two out, two run double to right
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: center field. Now we're probably going to see more of
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: these two. I think there's a spatal left handers in
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: addition to the Cleveland series. I think the Dodgers will
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: start a few lefties against them this week. But Mark,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: regardless of the hand the pitcher throws with, would you
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: like to see one, if not two, of these guys.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: In the lineup A little more often.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I see the fans are echoing that yeah a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: lot on the social media post. It's quite obvious to
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: me they are playing really well. I don't wow that
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: You've had a really good point about trying to go
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: right left, right left, and if you have the luxury
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to do it. Some teams do an opponent coming up,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: not the guardians the next one. They have the guys
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to do it. It's one thing to copy, but copying
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: is best done when when you can approximate. And I
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: don't think right now that it makes sense to do that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I think you play the guys that are performing the best.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: There's nothing that says that the guys that may see
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a little less playing time shouldn't be seeing less playing time.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I think that Paraza another great defensive stop to save
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: or run on that that last play with Soriano also
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: hit a big home run. I mean, why, why would
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: why would he not be in there every day?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Is my question to you.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I don't I agree with you. I guess another question
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: is would you put him in every day over yan
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Mancotta third base?
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would too.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I think Paraza right now is probably your most consistent
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: effective hitter maybe on the team, uh, and you got
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to get us a bat in the lineup. And its defensively,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: he's shown a pretty pretty solid glove at both third
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and second base.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I just don't know why.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a physical thing, whether they
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: think they might be exposing him a little too much,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: if they play him too much.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: You never know.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: But he's still a pretty young guy. I would have
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: him in there every day as well. How about Grissom?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Not as uh not as good defensively in the field
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: is Paraza, But boy, you know, Josh Lowe is really
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: scuffling out there in left field.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: You could, I don't, I don't know what.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: You can't really move Grissom or Paraza out to the outfield.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: There's there's something wrong. There's something wrong with this lineup,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you know, with with with low getting so many starts
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: against right handed pitchers, and Paraza is not getting in
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: there enough. In Moncatta that you Moncatta seems to be
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a real streaky hitter, and I'd rather go with the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: guy who's a lot more consistent like Paraza. Is there
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: any I don't think there's any easy fix to this lineup,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: But these pieces don't seem to fit very well together.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Is anything you would suggest to Kurt Suzuki that he'd
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: do at this point?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Play the best players, play the hottest players, and you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: know what, they may not remain the hottest players. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: think Praza indicated he made some changes with his swing
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: and he's not the same player that he was last year.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm the first one to admit I didn't think
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: much of him last year. I didn't see anything that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: really stood out. Looked like a utility backup infielder. No
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: pop in the bat and the defense. I didn't get
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a good enough look. And maybe that's on me because
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: he's a well above average I'd say almost a fantastic defender.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, he really does a lot of things. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: have to assume he plays a nice shortstop too, if
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: they ever plan on giving Zach Netto a blow, but
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that maybe one sixty two.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, never know.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't all rainbowsen butterflies in Toronto.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: As we know. The Angels had no.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Answers again for Dylan Cees Friday night and a two
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: nothing loss, and they were blown out fourteen to one
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. Saturday was a weird game. You know, the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Angels were right in it early, they failed to cash
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: in on some opportunities. They put two on with no
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: outs in the third inning, loaded the bases with one
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: out in the fourth, failed to score both times. Then
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: they give up a seventh spot in the fifth that
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: featured a throwing area by Jack Kohanowitz, and a lot
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of frustration went into that inning. And then they end
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the game with a position player Adam Frazier on the mound,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: gives up another four in the eighth. Mark Sunday definitely
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: took the edge. I think off those two games with
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: any particular thoughts on those first two games, just you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: losing two out of three isn't going to cut it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's great that they won Sunday, it's great that you
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: know they have something to celebrate and get excited about.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But bottom up, they did lose two out of three
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to two. Granted to a pretty good team, but that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: not how you build a playoff contender or even a
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: five hundred team.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: At this point, doing what we do is so time
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: sensitive that covering postgame Sunday everything looks a little bit better.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: In reality, your ace just took on a guy that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: probably is packing his bags for somewhere else and.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Good for them.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: The other two games Friday night, Reid Detmers didn't have
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: any command.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I believe he walked six. Yeah, that was very strange.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Kurt credited the Blue Jays keen plate discipline, said he
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: thought Reid looked pretty good to some degree. I think
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: you're getting the point. I didn't think he had a
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: really very good start. It wasn't the worst either, it
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: was just a little bit. Yeah, that is a team
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: that does an excellent job. I know for a fact
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: that they're they for a few years now have have
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: hammered on plate discipline, and they get daily reports after
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: every game on you know, their ability to control the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: strike zone. So it's no surprise that they actually do that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So but you know, the Blue Jays on the offensive
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: side in that first game got three hits, they managed
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: to win. So that was that Saturday's game. Jack didn't
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: have it going. His comments reflected that he seemed more
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: in line with what I saw. There was a lot
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: of traffic on the bases and that that one play,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: in particular, the throwing error, it seemed strange. I don't
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: know if he didn't know how many outs there were
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: there were first second and here I rewounded and I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: recorded there was more than enough time to throw a second.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: He didn't do that.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: It looked like he kind of had a brain whatever,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and then hucked ninety mile an hour sticker up the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: first baseline. It just looked like a frustrated play and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the game had sped up and maybe some of the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: some of the motions had taken over. I credited him
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: for being accountable and you know, saying what he did.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: As far as the Angels offense those two games not
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: getting the job done manufacturer in the runs, a number
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: of guys stranded. How about Addison barger Strow. What'd you
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: think of that?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: That was a rocket. That was a They measured it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: close to one hundred miles an hour. I can't remember
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the specific over number it was over Wow, I thought
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: ninety five plus was like a lead arm. That's amazing.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: You know, we saw him make some great defensive plays
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: against the Dodgers in the World Series last year. Can't
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: say I was shocked to me it was an even
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: better play by that catcher. You know, it was a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: missile from right field gets kind of an in between hop.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: That's pretty high. He gloved it probably shoulder length if
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: not higher. Somehow managed to get the tag on so Laire,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: who I'm not sure had the most effective slide into
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: home plate, but a guy I'm not expecting to die,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: he probably would have called it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Solare got on. I believe that in with a double. Now,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the double was interesting because he smacked it was nothing
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: breaking ball, but it was one of those that most
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: guys would probably be on third base, Karen dat it came,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you know, got over Barso's head and Jorge second base.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: The next hitter, I think it was Boncata. Now he
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: hit it very hard, and he also hit it to Barger.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: But another time that the Angels conservatively held the runner
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: at third and so now you you know, are forced
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to drive him in. Barge is probably the only right
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: fielder in baseball it has the ability to do that,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: because that was closer to deep right field than not.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But it just kind of goes to show that today
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: they ended up breaking and breaking out, but an inability
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: to get the runner over I think, and get the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: runner in. So if again, you know, how why did
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: they win today? What did they do?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: They payed a home run and the home run the
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: home run.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: So when they hit multiple home runs, I believe one
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: of our first episodes, I said it. I still believe
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: it multiple home runs, the Angels will win a lot
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of those games.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: If not, you know it's going to be mixed.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to close the show with a little I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: don't know what's breaking news, but Mark found this on
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the Worldwide Interweb today. The Angels are dropping the price
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of their streaming package the rest of the season.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: What is it to eighty nine dollars? Is that what
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: you understand?
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Mark?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Mark saw it. I believe that most people may have
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: sawt if you are on any social media's But yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I did see it. I did tell you in case
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: you were somebody who hadn't yet subscribed to ABTV.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I get it on direct TV, so I don't
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have to subscribe. But now, I don't know what your
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: math grades were like in high school, but its like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: maybe eighty nine dollars when you pro rate, that still
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: seems a little high. We're what forty games end of
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the season right now? What would your rate be is
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: right now? If you're trying to lure a season viewing
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: package from Angel fans who are pretty much I rate.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: The best baseball is yet to come, no.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Doubt about that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we addressed that on our last episode over the weekend,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: in case you missed it, Mark, Mark couldn't join us
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: for that episode about general manager perraman Asian, but feel
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: free to go back and give it a wash. We
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: had a good time with it. It was very informative.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Hopefully someone had the.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Professionals in the room. Mark could have done there. But
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you know, two guys that wrote timely articles probably made
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: more sense than the ex angel slugger as far as
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you know. The nuanced coverage of the general managers mixed results.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: But he seems optimistic and maybe today is an example
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: of it. Maybe this is the best pace you know.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: So very very gracious of you to step aside and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: let the professionals handle it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Mark.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: We're going to.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Close the show with thanks for watching. Everybody, Please like
• 30:02
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