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100th Episode (1 Year Anniversary!) Special | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #100 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello, and welcome to a very special episode of the Christian
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  Reef podcast. This is episode 100.
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  It also weirdly falls on the one-year anniversary of the
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  Christian Reef podcast, it's pretty weird.
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  I know, it's funny how things work out sometimes and I was
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  really scratching my head about how I would actually do this
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  podcast because you know, I do have guests coming this week.
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  I actually have A guest tomorrow and I thought our just do a
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  regular episode. Maybe I'll do like a special
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  video whatever and just say thanks and maybe reflect a
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  little bit on this past year in all the episodes, but the more
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  and more I thought about it the more and more.
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  I thought that know, I need to do something special.
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  It's not every day that you hit 100 with any kind of Milestone.
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  And, you know, this this podcast has been not without its
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  struggles, not without its difficulties.
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  Is and we've come a long way, you know, just in this past
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  episode that I had episode 99, I was discussing podcasting in
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  general with mr. Ray, she Maliki.
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  I think that's a says, no. But anyway, one of the things he
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  brought up which, you know, just made me start thinking about all
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  of this is that when people start podcasts, Jim really, they
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  don't tend to stick it through, they get to about seven episodes
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  or something and then they just end it, maybe they get bored,
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  maybe they don't like the level of work, maybe they just you
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  know, are unhappy because they don't have the listener base
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  that they were aiming for. Maybe they were unhappy because
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  they can't get sponsorships and they can't get paid from it.
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  There's many reasons and, you know, one of the things that we
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  were both theorizing in that episode very briefly was that,
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  you know, If that's your kind of mindset than you're approaching
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  podcasting all wrong, you know? And I don't want to go into too
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  much detail about this because I did Cover a lot of this stuff in
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  my podcasting episode believe that's episode 90s.
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  Go check that out, but I think it's an important sentiment to
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  think about, you know, I mean, I'm surprised I even got to 10
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  episodes, let alone 100 and I think above all else, the reason
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  I've gotten to this point is through sheer determination.
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  I just want to you keep doing this.
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  I really enjoy doing this to be honest, and I always get
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  something out of it, you know, every time II have a guest on my
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  show, it kind of changes or frames things differently.
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  And what I mean by that is that every time II have these
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  conversations with every single guest I have on my show, I am
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  meeting a totally different person with, you know, different
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  life experiences, different Ambitions in life, Different way
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  of thinking and I always learn something, you know, like one of
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  the questions that I introduced, I don't know how far in but it's
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  become kind of, I guess, like a staple for me, it's a question.
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  I ask every single guest is you know, what's the biggest life
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  lesson you've learned and it's amazing because you know
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  throughout the course of many of those episodes people will give
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  you life advice anyway throughout the course of what
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  they're talking about. Whether it's their passion in
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  life, their job. Bob, maybe they're talking about
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  the family, you know, I've had episodes where people have
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  shared, you know, really difficult life experiences and
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  you get advice for you through the course of that.
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  But when you ask these people, you know, what's the biggest
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  thing that stands out for you? Goddamn, you get all sorts of
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  responses and I don't know. I just, I just get really
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  excited about about every time I do an episode because it's never
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  the same. It's always interesting.
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  It's always fun. And I think anything in life
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  that's like that you just want to keep doing it.
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  You know, it's almost like a drug.
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  It's kind of addictive to be honest.
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  And you know, it's just, I don't know.
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  I feel like, It's something that fits naturally with, with my
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  brand with what I do. You know, I'm very used to
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  talking to people being sociable.
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  I love that I'm like this in real life.
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  I mean, I am a shy guy, you know, I'm not gonna lie.
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  I'm not, you'll never find me. Starting the conversation, I'll
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  always be that guy sitting down in the corner, drinking
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  something light and having a cigarette and seeming
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  antisocial, but I love talking to people, I really do.
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  I'm just very When I prefer to listen and speak, that might
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  sound weird to all of you, you know.
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  But it's true. It's just how I am and I found
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  that with this medium Obviously, it's very different because
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  people want to be there. People have asked me for
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  instance, you know, how do you get guests?
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  And, you know, I've said this before, if there's different
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  channels, you can use Reddit is a big Source.
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  I'm very thankful to all the subreddits already podcast
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  guests podcast guest exchange. All those places.
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  They really helped me in the very beginning but then there's
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  other websites like Matchmaker and pod it and so on.
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  But the more that you do this and the longer that you do the
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  podcast, the more you find people reaching out to you.
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  People contact me by email. I've had people reach out to me
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  on Instagram and stuff, and it's amazing.
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  It's very humbling. It's very, it makes me feel
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  really good knowing that people take an interest in what I do.
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  They like the way that I interview and whatnot, and they
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  want to be a part of the show and I, you know, I treat every
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  guest exactly the same, you know, soon as someone's on my
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  show. I do extensive research and you
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  know, sometimes I use the research sometimes, I don't, you
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  know, I've, I've got research, why?
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  It's not research. Exactly, but I've got
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  information stuff. I've written down for this
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  episode, right? And I haven't even touched on
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  this yet because you just get into the course, the
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  conversation, you know? And that's really what I feel
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  is. The best part about podcast is,
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  is once you get into that conversation, who knows where
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  we'll go and who knows, what kind of nuggets you'll get and
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  my job as an interviewer is too kind of Chronicle that person's
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  life in a short time as I possibly Can you know and kind
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  of give people an idea of who this person is what they're
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  about, what makes them tick what were you know, and try and get
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  some stories out of them and to do that, you've got to make them
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  feel comfortable. And you know, I thought about
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  doing a, just a standard, really boring interview style and I
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  think in the very beginning of the podcast, there was a little
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  bit of that because I was sticking rigidly to that and I
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  wasn't as comfortable with the whole kind of interviewing
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  process, but now it's become At least, this is how I advertise
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  it. It's kind of an interview /
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  discussion podcast, so it's like yeah, there will be certain
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  things that I want to ask each particular guest but I'm kind of
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  happy for the conversation to go anywhere.
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  You know like again in episode 99 me and reishi Malaki were
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  talking about how you would approach interviewing a
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  celebrity and the more and more I sat and thought about that,
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  the more I realized that, you know, it's not dissimilar to
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  what I do now. You know, you can, you can sit
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  there and interview the person about, you know, all these
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  things they do. That's like part of their work
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  or whatever and and they'll probably be pretty happy to talk
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  about that. But the bigger thing, the thing
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  that you really want to get to as what they're passionate about
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  in life, you know, and it obviously a lot of people who
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  are doing these things, you know, podcasting, or or acting
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  or music, they are passionate about, right?
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  So, it's obviously, when you're asking them about their passion,
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  you're asking them about their work at the same time.
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  I'm but not, everyone is like that, you know, like in real
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  life, I don't ask people about their living.
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  I mean, why, you know, most people don't enjoy their living,
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  they do it as a kind of, you know, I think pays the bills and
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  then they use the time that they have free to pursue their
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  passions in life and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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  You know, there's a plenty of people that are very happy out
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  there, doing whatever their job is and then they spend their
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  free time with their families or doing their Hobbies, whatever,
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  and they're very happy. Rule different.
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  The way that we think the way that we approach life and that's
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  okay, and I think just as a important side note, you should
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  never demean people make people feel bad about what they're
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  doing in life. If they're happy, that's all
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  that matters. That is all that matters and all
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  that ever will matter. So just a little side note, get
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  there, just something to keep in mind because I've seen a lot of
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  people. I've had people say this to me,
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  you know, people constantly ask me.
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  Oh, do you get paid for that? At podcast, in all who have you
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  had on the podcast? You know, as in are they
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  celebrities anyone? I would anymore I would care
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  about is basically what they're asking or like, oh yeah, if you
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  got paid, if you got this, that how many numbers, how many
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  downloads, blah, blah, blah. And then as soon as it doesn't
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  soon as I don't give a positive response to say, oh, well, you
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  know, we have a small list in the base and, you know, I
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  haven't really had any ones famous per se.
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  They get like disinterested and, you know, I used to get That
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  used to kind of bother me back back in the day but now I just
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  think about it like this. Which, okay, it might set make
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  me sound a bit of a douche but I don't care.
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  It's the truth. It's how I think, I think
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  they're missing out. I really do.
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  I think that this podcast does have a lot to offer and I filled
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  it now that we've got to 100 episodes.
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  I really feel like I'm I'm excited for the next hundred to
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  be honest. I'm really excited.
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  You know like what for A while at the beginning.
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  I was just kind of doing them as and when and one thing I
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  realized which is a bit of advice for all new podcasters,
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  don't give yourself too much work, I still have to do the
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  editing process. You know, I still have to do all
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  that stuff. It takes forever, but you got to
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  do it. It's part of the grind, you
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  know, you gotta cut up and edit your podcast.
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  You got to put the clips out, you go, to promote yourself on
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  social media. I mean, I don't even have enough
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  time to be able to promote myself fully.
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  I promote myself as much as I can.
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  But like, I don't even have the time to promote the clips.
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  For example, I just I just do what I can and leave it at that,
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  right? Hope people discover me,
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  although I will say Tick-Tock has been a good resource.
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  That's actually, pretty simple and quick to put stuff on
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  anyway, I digress. You know, you got, you gotta
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  learn to put that that time in that effort in that working and
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  I feel like a lot of people just aren't willing to do that.
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  And, you know, you got to be passionate about this if If you
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  want this to succeed, you got to be passionate about this, but
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  it's not all about the numbers. Or, you know who's how many
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  celebrities you've had on your show?
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  I think it's about putting out good content putting out
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  something that people, firstly can always come back to as well.
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  One thing I really like, and this is a term that I actually
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  learned. When I was working in marketing,
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  is this term Evergreen content? This idea that you have content
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  that people Perpetually come back to any point in time and it
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  won't really out date. Now, of course, there are
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  certain things that are going to naturally out date, you know,
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  like if you go back to an old podcast episode of mine, or for
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  instance, if you see like my appearances on other people's
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  podcasts, sometimes I talk about things that I don't even do any
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  more like, you know, in some podcasts I've spoken about Retro
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  Gaming. That's something I don't do
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  anymore because I just didn't really have like a passion for
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  it anymore. I tried it.
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  I tried the whole twitch thing. NG it didn't work for me.
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  You move on, right? So some things you can't avoid
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  but at the things remain the same and, you know, I always
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  pride myself on that. I want this to kind of keep
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  growing, keep moving. I want to keep doing this for
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  years to come, to be honest and I'm excited to see where it
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  goes. One of the questions I actually
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  received because I've got a bunch of questions from you
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  guys. So thank you very much for
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  sending these questions in, by the way, to all my podcast
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  listeners, I love you to bits. Thank you so much.
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  The listing to the Christian read podcast, you guys rock.
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  Yeah. Well the one of the big
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  questions which ties into what I'm just about to say is, who's
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  your biggest inspiration? Now, as far as podcasting is
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  concerned, it's got to be Joe Rogan.
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  And I know that's a really obvious choice.
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  And people going to be like, oh, oh, oh my God, but the reason
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  why Is that I look at his journey and his podcasting
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  style. So with his journey and I've
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  said this a million times on the podcast.
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  So apologies for regulars who are hearing me repeat myself.
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  But look, the guy was doing podcasting upwards of like, free
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  400 episodes. And those first three, four
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  hundred. We're really nothing to write
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  home about. He was honing his craft, you
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  know, he was, but the important thing is, He stuck with it.
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  And even he he's the sort of guy that will own it, you know, if
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  he makes a mistake, if he put something out there that's not
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  up to par or whatever he'll owner and be like, yeah, you
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  know, it just wasn't as good as it is now, you know, it was a
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  journey and that really inspired me, you know?
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  Like when I look at the very beginning of this podcast, the
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  first say, I'd say 30 episodes, I was really trying to find my
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  footing, you know, and I just might my whole goal was just
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  keep going, keep releasing. Stuff.
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  Keep going, you know, and sometimes I get bit, but
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  frustrated, you know, sometimes I put out an episode and maybe I
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  think are maybe maybe it wasn't as good.
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  You know, maybe I didn't do as well, and I'd always put the
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  onus on me. I never blame guests or
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  anything. It's always on me to make it as
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  good as possible. Whether that be, you know,
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  asking the right questions or whether that be steering, the
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  conversation in the right direction, you know, whatever
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  the case may be, it's always up to me to make sure it's a good
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  show. Entertaining, something that
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  people actually want to listen to.
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  And, you know, something I've always thought about as well.
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  That ties into that is you know, I've never really been able to
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  get these discussion episodes where I want them to be, you
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  know, like As you guys know I want to do more discussion based
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  episodes like this but I feel like it's not as interesting
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  when it's just me talking about it.
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  Now this episode will be different because it's, you
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  know, it's me reflecting on 100 episodes me reflecting on the
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  year of podcasting. And I think that's something
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  that you should take and celebrate.
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  And I did think about having people on the show having a
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  guest on the show, but you know what?
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  Moving forward, I want to try to do more of these
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  discussion-based episode. If I can, if I can find a way to
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  make this interesting and engaging when it's just me, that
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  would be something because it's something that I haven't really
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  mastered. I feel like the interviews
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  that's something that's going well and something that will
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  continue to go. Well as long as I just keep
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  working hard and keep putting in the same effort and the same
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  format that I have been. But as far as it pertains to the
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  discussion based podcasts, I don't know, I mean Obviously, I
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  appreciate your feedback. Anything that you you want to
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  tell me about about what I could do or what you think I could do
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  better, or even indeed. If you like the episodes because
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  I've done a few, like I did one on wrestling.
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  I did one on University podcasting, some of the early
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  episodes I believe the first five or 10, there was a few just
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  Standalone episodes because back then I was trying to figure out
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  what this podcast would be is it going to be discussion based
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  with occasional guest is Only going to be interviews.
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  I've still not fully committed to the idea that it's an
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  interview only podcast, you know, because I kind of want to
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  just do what I want when I want. Do you know what I mean?
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  Like if I want to just put out an episode on a particular
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  topic, I'm just going to do it. Like I did with the Wrestling
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  episode. I did that because I love
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  wrestling and why not? It's my podcast and this
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  actually leads me on to some criticism I've had recently so
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  I'm not adverse to receiving criticism.
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  One receives criticism and I think the more that you continue
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  the more that you put yourself out there especially if you
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  start doing well. Even if it's just a little bit,
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  even if it's just a little bit of people, you know checking you
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  out giving you love Bell, always be people that hate that I want
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  to bring you down. And I had some recent criticism
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  which I addressed couple of episodes Ago, by ignored in the
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  YouTube comments because I was just like, I'm not going to deal
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  with this negativity, but it's not the first time. that I've
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  had criticism, and most of the time I ignore criticism, you
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  know, because it always comes in a kind of troll format in a
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  negative way that's you know, it's not true someone trying to
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  help or give their honest, genuine opinion, it's just
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  someone being nasty like the person recently that the drop
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  comments on my episode with Lydia person, they said that my
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  stories were boring and that basically by me sharing my He's
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  that undermined the other person stories.
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  Now, if you go and watch that episode back, I barely spoke at
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  all. You know, because it was all
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  about Lydia and she's a very chatty lady and you know, I'm
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  happy to take a side seat and just steer the conversation
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  which is what I did. And so the thing that bothered
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  me really, was that this person that was commenting while they
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  were giving their opinion. It was a lie, you know, it
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  really was like the first criticism I received Received
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  about the podcast was actually for episode 3 or 4.
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  When I interviewed good actor, Marie a friend of mine from
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  Estonia. And the person had said
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  something along the lines of, I mean, again, they put it in a
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  horrible way, but it said that. Basically, I spoke too much and
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  I spoke over my guest now, You know, I disagreed with that
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  because what they were commenting on was not actually
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  the full podcast, they were commenting on a clip, right?
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  And it bothered me and I but the thing is, I took it and I sat
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  down and I thought about it and I thought, you know what, even
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  though this person has put this in a horrible way, maybe there's
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  something to take from this. Maybe there's something to
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  consider because my role as an interviewer, first and foremost,
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  is to get as much information from that person as possible to
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  put them. I'm over in a good light and
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  interview them, you know and you know, anytime someone appears on
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  my podcast, people want to hear that person speak.
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  Right. But here's the thing and this is
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  something that they said, they said no one wants to hear you
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  speak as in me. And the person that commented
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  recently said something similar. No one wants to hear your boring
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  stories. You know, this episode is all
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  about Lydia. It's not about you and I
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  thought, you know what It's my podcast is the Christian Reeve
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  podcast if I want to talk I'm going to talk if I want to share
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  a story I'm going to share a story and if you don't like me
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  don't listen to the podcast to simple as that.
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  I don't understand why you would listen to the podcast or indeed.
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  Watch anything that I do or consume anything that I put out
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  there. If you don't like me, if you
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  don't like me, that's fine. But why do people feel the need
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  to tell me that it didn't mean and I guess that comes down to
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  negative people and stuff. Because the thing is, I've been
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  getting constructive criticism all my life, you know, as a
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  musician at school in business, I'm very used to it.
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  There is a way to tell people how to improve and give advice
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  in a polite manner. I've done it myself.
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  But the way that these trolls and horrible people in the
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  internet, put things forward is just really unacceptable wasn't
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  for some water. I count as ASMR, but Yeah, and I
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  guess, I guess my overarching point with this because what I
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  have written down on my paper here is dealing with criticism.
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  So essentially, it's like how do I deal with criticism towards
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  the podcast? Well, basically, I just, if I
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  can take something from the criticism, I do so that first
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  comment I told you about from earlier in the podcast run, I
• 21:07
  thought, you know what, there's a fair point there.
• 21:10
  If I can minimize how much I speak and try to get to the
• 21:14
  guest to speak as much as possible, that's fine.
• 21:17
  But at the same time, I want it to be a conversation.
• 21:21
  I don't want it to just be an interview podcast because it's
• 21:24
  not, it's not just to put interview podcast.
• 21:26
  It's a discussion. I always think that podcast is
• 21:29
  at its best and the episodes that when I look back at which
• 21:34
  were the best episodes, it's always the ones that were more
• 21:36
  of a back and forth discussion, you know, the ones that were
• 21:40
  more of a conversation because I feel like that's much more
• 21:44
  interesting to listen to. It's also one of the reasons why
• 21:50
  I haven't really chosen to do many discussion-based podcast
• 21:54
  because I'm a bit hesitant about it.
• 21:56
  You know, I have noticed slight dips and numbers on, you know,
• 22:02
  YouTube and on all of my audio platform.
• 22:06
  So I have realized that generally the interviews are
• 22:09
  going to perform better, but I think it comes down to a range
• 22:12
  of different reasons. One, like I said people prefer
• 22:17
  to listen to that to, you know, inevitably you're going to bring
• 22:21
  in different audiences through each different.
• 22:23
  Guess because they have their own, you know, following So
• 22:26
  you're going to attract people fruit through the course of that
• 22:29
  and thirdly, you know I again I just think it's a more engaging
• 22:33
  kind of thing. It's almost like you're
• 22:36
  participating in a debate or a huge discussion as opposed to
• 22:40
  just listening to one person on their own.
• 22:43
  And I got to say every podcast that I've listened to because
• 22:47
  I've done, I guess you could call it like research.
• 22:49
  I don't think it really counts as research, but I've listened
• 22:51
  to a lot of different podcasts and I never really tended.
• 22:56
  To enjoy the ones that were just one person.
• 22:59
  You know, I've yet to find one where it's just one person, and
• 23:02
  I'm sure there are plenty out there that are good.
• 23:04
  That I'm just not aware of, but all of the ones that I enjoy
• 23:08
  have several people on them and they have some sort of banter or
• 23:11
  chemistry, or whatever. And this leads me to the the
• 23:14
  co-host scenario that I wanted to cover.
• 23:18
  So, shout out to Dutch deals, who actually was there in my
• 23:22
  50th episode. If you go back, he was there for
• 23:26
  the Special. And I thought about getting him
• 23:29
  last minute but I thought, you know what?
• 23:30
  I'll just do this by myself because it's kind of where I
• 23:34
  think the podcast is headed. Like for a long time.
• 23:38
  I wanted to have a co-host that would help me do these
• 23:41
  discussion episodes because I thought, you know, I'll keep
• 23:44
  doing the interviews. Like I do already where it's
• 23:46
  just me, because I have a sort of approach for that and format
• 23:50
  for that and that works. And I think, if I would add more
• 23:53
  people to that, it might convolute it.
• 23:55
  But as far as The research for the, you know, discussion-based
• 24:00
  episodes. I thought it was better to have
• 24:02
  two people come in with different research, different
• 24:05
  approaches to the same idea, and then have a debate, have a
• 24:08
  discussion, and we would just tackle, you know, different
• 24:12
  subjects as we go. I originally wanted to do that
• 24:15
  with Dutch deals. It just didn't seem like he had
• 24:19
  the time to commit, you know, is a young lad, I get that.
• 24:22
  So that's why he's sort of no longer on it.
• 24:25
  Obviously, he's always welcome to come.
• 24:26
  Back on the show, he knows this but that's why he didn't sort of
• 24:30
  become a regular co-host. There was also a lady on the
• 24:34
  show called Rafi That was supposed to be my next co-host
• 24:39
  and I was really excited about that because we were going to
• 24:41
  take things in a much more business orientated, kind of
• 24:44
  Direction and unfortunately saying same issue I didn't
• 24:48
  really know what happened there. She kind of just fell off the
• 24:51
  radar. Hope she's doing okay but I
• 24:54
  guess she's just too busy but Yeah, it just didn't work out,
• 24:58
  then it made me start thinking that like, is this cursed?
• 25:00
  Am I just never going to get a hug co-host or whatever.
• 25:04
  And look, I think, It is always going to be about me is always
• 25:11
  going to be the Christian relief podcast.
• 25:13
  I think people do kind of expect that I will host it and I'll be
• 25:17
  the lead kind of not necessarily the lead Focus point because you
• 25:20
  know as I said it's an interview discussion podcast with
• 25:24
  whoever's on my show just like The Joe Rogan podcast.
• 25:27
  You know. I do base it off that quite a
• 25:30
  lot. I always think about the fact
• 25:32
  that every time a guest comes on the show it's about me trying to
• 25:35
  get stories out of them. I guess that's the best way of
• 25:38
  putting. Dang it.
• 25:38
  This is like a storytelling podcast where we talk about life
• 25:43
  and passion for various different fields and and
• 25:48
  whatever and where the where the conversation goes It goes there
• 25:51
  are no rules per se. Sometimes we will kind of come
• 25:55
  in with a specific topic but generally speaking we're going
• 25:58
  to cover a lot of different topics inevitably, you know.
• 26:01
  Like you'll notice a lot of my episodes.
• 26:03
  I don't just dive straight in necessarily sometimes I do.
• 26:06
  Sometimes I'll just ask them straight about their Ezel what
• 26:09
  they do for work or whatever. But generally, I like to kind of
• 26:12
  see if we'll have a like a little random discussion first
• 26:16
  and then you know once that's kind of died down a little bit
• 26:19
  then I start asking questions because the questions are more
• 26:22
  like prompts to be honest. I know I think this is something
• 26:25
  that all podcast is out. There could learn my best
• 26:27
  advice. I could give as far as you know
• 26:29
  being an interview is concerned is just do your research but use
• 26:35
  your questions more as prompts rather than something that you
• 26:38
  You sort of live by, you know, don't use this as like the Holy
• 26:41
  Grail, don't use this as like the only thing you go buy it
• 26:44
  because you're going to get stuck.
• 26:46
  You know, there's things that you can't anticipate.
• 26:48
  Like for instance, you know, let's say you're talking about
• 26:52
  one thing and you want to keep the discussion to that.
• 26:55
  And then the guests talks about something that you have like
• 26:57
  several questions down, what are you going to do?
• 26:59
  Is going to cut them off. I mean, you could Circle back to
• 27:02
  that thing, but that kind of, kills the vibe, kills the
• 27:05
  conversation. It's better to just let them
• 27:07
  talk. Austin, the question that you
• 27:09
  have planned for them later and maybe Circle back to the former
• 27:12
  thing or, you know, if there's nothing more to say on that move
• 27:15
  move on, you know, go with the flow, go with the conversation
• 27:20
  is that's the best advice I could give, you know, I'm glad I
• 27:23
  know it's unsolicited. No one asked, I don't care,
• 27:27
  that's my Approach, but I seriously think that's the best
• 27:30
  thing you can do is go with the flow, go with the discussion,
• 27:33
  see where it takes you and whenever you feel a bit like the
• 27:38
  She is beginning to die down or you know you're coming to the
• 27:41
  end of a point. That's when you throw in a
• 27:43
  question because it's just like a real conversation in real life
• 27:47
  you know and if you really feel like there's just nothing more
• 27:50
  to say and the podcast bring it to a close it's nothing wrong
• 27:54
  with that doesn't have to be the same length every single time
• 27:59
  you know like people ask me what the length of the show is
• 28:01
  generally. I haven't really figured it out
• 28:04
  I guess it would be anywhere between an hour to two hours
• 28:07
  generally but I Don't have a name per se, you know, if it's
• 28:11
  an hour, it's an hour, if it's two hours is 2 hours, if it gets
• 28:14
  up to three hours. Hey, that happens, you know, if
• 28:19
  the conversation is that good or there's just enough to ask them.
• 28:22
  I'm going to roll with it, I'm going to see what happens.
• 28:25
  You know what I mean? I'm not going to cut someone
• 28:27
  because I've I've been on people's shows where that
• 28:29
  happens when you get into the course of a discussion and they
• 28:33
  just want to like you know really cut it down to like 30
• 28:36
  minutes and it's like this is just not fun.
• 28:39
  You know? Like for instance, me if you
• 28:40
  could have me on your show, I'm a very expressive guy.
• 28:43
  So I'm going to take a while to answer questions so I don't
• 28:47
  know. I don't feel like half and that
• 28:49
  you can't. Can you talk about in half an
• 28:51
  hour? I mean, you can talk about a few
• 28:52
  things but I don't really feel like you, you get off the
• 28:56
  ground. Really with that.
• 28:57
  You know I've managed to make it happen with with certain guests.
• 29:01
  You know if there are time constraints I've made it work
• 29:04
  sometimes but I find it very limited.
• 29:07
  I really do. I remember when I I was doing
• 29:08
  the tcj podcast before this, we were trying to stick to a time
• 29:14
  schedule and I always hated that I always wanted to do more.
• 29:17
  I always felt like, you know, I would but we'd barely scratch
• 29:21
  the surface and it frustrated me and I think it was one of the
• 29:24
  reasons why I decided to do my own podcasts afterwards.
• 29:27
  Because I was like, I don't want these time constraints.
• 29:31
  I don't want there to be a rule like, oh sorry, you have to end
• 29:34
  it now. So that why why do I have to end
• 29:36
  it? If it's going?
• 29:37
  Well I want to know. With it.
• 29:38
  I want to see where it goes. I want to see where the
• 29:40
  conversation goes and just just run with it.
• 29:44
  That's simply but so yeah. Toi I really went off the rails
• 29:50
  with that one, didn't I? Yeah, basically, I don't think
• 29:51
  there's going to be a co-host least, not anytime soon.
• 29:55
  But this ties into my next point about what I'd like to do in the
• 29:58
  future. There's a lot of things I want
• 29:59
  to do with this podcast. One of the biggest things is, I
• 30:02
  want to build a podcast team. You know, I really like, for
• 30:06
  instance, to set up again. Pod.
• 30:08
  Joe Rogan has I like the setup that the H3 H3 team has?
• 30:12
  I want something similar to that, where I just show up, I do
• 30:17
  the podcast and then a team of people takes care of the rest
• 30:21
  because I could do a lot more. If I had a team of people
• 30:23
  dealing with Clips editing, you know, throwing stuff up on a
• 30:28
  computer. So we can look at it, you know,
• 30:30
  whatever the case may be, that would speed things up that would
• 30:33
  speed the process up and it would make things a lot easier,
• 30:37
  you know? And you know, there's People
• 30:38
  that I'm meeting in my in my life right now.
• 30:40
  People that, you know, when I eventually have the money, I'm
• 30:43
  going to employ them either on a freelance basis or as a part of
• 30:47
  my just team. I'm basically going to build a
• 30:49
  business build a team of people that I trust and we're going to,
• 30:53
  we're going to create something. We're going to create this this
• 30:55
  brand the Christian Rebrand, it won't just be for the podcast.
• 30:59
  It'll be for many different things that I do.
• 31:02
  But the podcast is a big part of what I do and I really want it
• 31:07
  to grow. Moving forward.
• 31:09
  I want to build a team. I want to have a studio, you
• 31:12
  know. That's a big goal of mine is to
• 31:14
  have a place that people could actually physically.
• 31:17
  Come imagine that there's never been anyone on the show.
• 31:21
  That's actually sat down with me physically.
• 31:23
  Now obviously that comes down to space and not having, you know
• 31:27
  obviously covid being a big thing that threw everything in
• 31:30
  the works. And yeah just not having the
• 31:32
  equipment. I have this one Mike.
• 31:34
  I mean my camera broke recently. That's why we've got this crappy
• 31:37
  feed. Which is literally my webcam
• 31:40
  from my laptop, which which really frustrates me because the
• 31:43
  other camera was so much better and to downgrade and go back to.
• 31:47
  This is like it's like taking one step forward and five steps
• 31:52
  back, you know, but you run with it you know, as long as I've got
• 31:55
  something to record with and you know a camera whatever just do
• 31:59
  it and that that would be my advice as well podcasters.
• 32:02
  That are just starting out, just do it, just run with it.
• 32:05
  Whatever you have as long as you can hear yourself and people You
• 32:09
  and you've got something where you can be seen, just run with
• 32:12
  it. Like equipment will get better
• 32:14
  eventually. I don't doubt that.
• 32:15
  I will have a professional team and professional equipment one
• 32:18
  day and a studio. I know it will happen and we'll
• 32:21
  look back to moments like this and will probably laugh at this
• 32:24
  clip and be like, hey, it happened.
• 32:28
  It really did happen. Maybe I could be like, hey guys
• 32:30
  in the future. Here's me in the past, being a
• 32:33
  dreamer. That'd be funny.
• 32:36
  If you're actually works out, that would be weird.
• 32:38
  But clip that up it'll be like a you know the journey but you got
• 32:43
  to start somewhere, you got to start somewhere other things.
• 32:46
  I'd like to do with the podcast is you know I'd like to have a
• 32:50
  dedicated interactive listener base.
• 32:52
  I'd like to be able to take more suggestions from people on
• 32:57
  people like guests. They like to see you know
• 33:00
  topics. They'd like to hear all that
• 33:02
  stuff. I have I have already asked
• 33:04
  people you know I have a Discord and there's a few people in
• 33:08
  there. Really gracious and awesome and
• 33:09
  then they send me comments and I have questions today because of
• 33:12
  those people and because of people and Tick-Tock and such.
• 33:16
  So there are, there is a listener base there.
• 33:20
  I know there is and thank you to everyone that's taking the time
• 33:23
  to listen to this podcast. I hope you enjoy it.
• 33:25
  Thank you so much. I know there is a regular
• 33:28
  listener base. It might only be a handful of
• 33:31
  people but you know what? It's not about how many it's
• 33:35
  about having those people, you know.
• 33:37
  It doesn't matter if you. Got five people or 5,000.
• 33:39
  People, if you've got dedicated people listening to you, I think
• 33:43
  that's something to celebrate. And after 100 episodes, you
• 33:47
  know, I remember when no one listens to this, absolutely no
• 33:50
  one and it would crush me. But, you know, I think if you
• 33:55
  stand by what you're doing, you keep doing it.
• 33:57
  You keep getting better people resonate with that, you know,
• 34:02
  they see your dedication, this see what you're trying to
• 34:04
  achieve. I think people get what I'm
• 34:06
  trying to achieve with this podcast, which is Physically to
• 34:09
  make this interview discussion podcast, get as many people on
• 34:12
  as I can learn about as many people as I can.
• 34:15
  You know, I said it a couple of episodes ago like What would
• 34:19
  help this podcast? Maybe a shout-out.
• 34:20
  Maybe having a celebrity on. I'm not so convinced.
• 34:24
  I think it's more about just slowly building that base and
• 34:28
  and people respect the word. I think that's what will happen.
• 34:32
  The obviously, as I was talking about what, some of the goals I
• 34:35
  have for the future. Yeah, inevitably I do want to
• 34:38
  have a big listener base, you know, a big group of people
• 34:41
  constantly listening to the podcast, sharing, it telling
• 34:44
  their friends, but the block who wouldn't want that, right?
• 34:48
  But I don't think that things like that.
• 34:50
  Generally come overnight, sometimes you get lucky in life
• 34:54
  people, shout you out or yeah, maybe you have someone
• 34:57
  significant that you work with collab with whatever but I don't
• 35:02
  think you can rely on stuff like that.
• 35:05
  You know, I I'm my attitude is always work hard and not expect
• 35:10
  anything. You know, I don't expect someone
• 35:13
  to just turn around one day and Shout me out.
• 35:15
  I don't expect a celebrity to give me a chance.
• 35:18
  Expect people to suddenly, like, donate money to me or support me
• 35:22
  or whatever. I'm amazed if people do.
• 35:24
  And thank you to everyone that supports me, but I don't expect
• 35:28
  these things in life. I've known to just work hard.
• 35:31
  Keep working hard and eventually it will pay off and you know I
• 35:36
  guess it will make it all the more sweeter.
• 35:39
  You know when I eventually do get it because truthfully I've
• 35:42
  only been properly doing this all for two years content
• 35:45
  creating you know for many years I turn my back.
• 35:48
  Back on content, creating and everything.
• 35:50
  And Two years is relatively short, you know?
• 35:54
  I mean it's but we are getting the numbers.
• 35:58
  We are growing, we reached 10K on Tick-Tock recently.
• 36:02
  We're close to, I think seven hundred and fifty subscribers on
• 36:05
  YouTube. So in episodes of the podcast,
• 36:08
  I'll getting more views on YouTube.
• 36:12
  There's a bit attraction. Gaining on the podcast Clips on
• 36:17
  Tick, Tock, you know, it's like, there's more people listening on
• 36:20
  audio platform. Seems, you know more so on a
• 36:23
  regular basis than YouTube even and which makes sense because
• 36:27
  it's like where are you really going to listen to a podcast?
• 36:30
  You're not going to listen to it on YouTube.
• 36:32
  You're going to listen to it on like Spotify or apple podcasts
• 36:35
  or somewhere like that, you know.
• 36:38
  Like I mean I suppose YouTube is good in the sense that you can
• 36:41
  see the people but you know everyone knows what I look like.
• 36:44
  It didn't mean that that novelty wears off.
• 36:47
  Everyone knows what the guests not like you know, it's by guess
• 36:50
  you want to see the reaction? Of people, you know, like in
• 36:53
  this episode, it doesn't really matter if you see me or not, but
• 36:56
  I suppose, when I'm having those discussion-based episodes, you
• 36:59
  do want to be able to see me and that person, you want to see us
• 37:02
  interacting widget it with each other and stuff.
• 37:05
  And I feel for certain episodes. It's really important to be able
• 37:08
  to have that visual version because you can see like the
• 37:12
  background, you can see it get an idea of the person,
• 37:15
  physically and stuff and yeah, and also, sometimes when you
• 37:19
  share stuff with each, Each other like hey, check out this
• 37:22
  cool thing that I made. You can't really see that for,
• 37:27
  you know, an audio episode and that's why I encourage people to
• 37:30
  sometimes go and check out the, the video version.
• 37:33
  You know, I'm not saying, like only listen to it, but, you
• 37:36
  know, it's worth checking out every once in a while, and I
• 37:39
  actually discovered recently. There's actually a term for a
• 37:42
  video podcast. I think that it was a vodcast.
• 37:46
  I didn't even know this, I didn't know this was a thing and
• 37:49
  that people actually Market Those podcasts in that way.
• 37:53
  Like oh check out my vodcast. I never even knew that was a
• 37:56
  thing. So that was a learning curve for
• 37:59
  me. And I suppose this past year,
• 38:02
  has just been one long learning curve in a nutshell.
• 38:05
  But before I get into that, one of the final things I want to
• 38:07
  say with regards to what I'm looking for in the future, what
• 38:10
  I'm aiming for is, of course sponsorship.
• 38:14
  I have reached out to Anchor a few times which is the platform
• 38:18
  that hosts all of my stuff on. Online for free.
• 38:22
  So shout-out to Anchor. Thank you so much because
• 38:26
  basically, they mainly operate in America.
• 38:29
  They do operate in the Europe but you can't make any money if
• 38:34
  you're in Europe. And I've message them several
• 38:37
  times about this. And they've always told me that
• 38:39
  they're working on making it possible in Europe, but right
• 38:42
  now it's just not happening. And one of the suggestions they
• 38:47
  made to me was that I should pitch my podcast to sponsor.
• 38:52
  And I kind of said that like, right now, it's pointless
• 38:57
  because I just don't have a big enough listener base.
• 38:59
  Like, we're talking straight business, you know, I know how
• 39:01
  business works. I've studied business for many
• 39:04
  many years, right? If I go to a business and I go,
• 39:07
  hey, you want to sponsor me? I get like five people.
• 39:11
  Each episode if I'm lucky, I mean, all they're going to hear
• 39:14
  is well, why should I pay you when there's next to No One
• 39:20
  listening to you now? Stan.
• 39:21
  Do you mean like, whereas, if I go, oh, I've got a thousand
• 39:23
  people listening to me every episode that begins to sound
• 39:27
  like money that begins to sound like, well, even if you know,
• 39:30
  one-tenth of those people, check out the product, that's
• 39:32
  something. You know, let me know if like 50
• 39:35
  people out of that thousand, check out that I'll be worth my
• 39:38
  time and my expenses. So, Unfortunately, with
• 39:43
  sponsorships at least it is all about the numbers and I'm fully
• 39:47
  aware of that. And I won't be pitching myself
• 39:49
  to anyone until I've got that sort of big confirmed listener
• 39:54
  base. That's a sizable amount because
• 39:57
  I just, I just can't see any reason why why I should pitch to
• 40:02
  them. Otherwise I don't think there's
• 40:03
  anything in it for those businesses.
• 40:05
  And at the end of the day, it is all about business.
• 40:07
  It doesn't matter if I come across well or I have a good
• 40:10
  speaking voice or even if the The podcast is any good to be
• 40:13
  honest. It is about how many people are
• 40:15
  listening when it comes to that, because it's purely about the
• 40:19
  numbers, unfortunately. But there you go.
• 40:22
  But I do think that in the future, we will get sponsors.
• 40:26
  I imagine will get several sponsors.
• 40:28
  I'd like to do a sort of similar model to what Conrad Thompson
• 40:31
  does in the US. For those who don't know, he's a
• 40:34
  wrestling podcast. It has like several podcasts
• 40:37
  that he does with various different people from the
• 40:40
  wrestling industry. His style was to basically have
• 40:43
  several adverts placements throughout the episode.
• 40:48
  You know, just short like, one minute adverts even done by the
• 40:52
  company, or by them generally, they're done by them, which I
• 40:55
  think is better anyway to have the actual host of the show
• 40:59
  advertising themselves. I think that makes sense and
• 41:02
  it's much more fun. You can have fun with it but I
• 41:04
  could have a lot of fun with with ads and sponsors.
• 41:07
  If I ever got to that point because I think I would turn it
• 41:09
  into something fun. But yeah, that that kind of
• 41:14
  concludes what we're talking about with regards to where I'd
• 41:18
  like to go with in the future. But yeah, I guess now I just
• 41:22
  want to address all of your questions because there's quite
• 41:25
  a few here. I've already addressed a few.
• 41:27
  But yeah, let's have a little look.
• 41:30
  So if you could interview interview, any major celebrity
• 41:33
  on your podcast, who would it be?
• 41:34
  And that's from Hannah. So thank you, Hannah for that
• 41:36
  question. Any major celebrity I mean the
• 41:42
  ones that I would want to interview all dead, Jim
• 41:46
  Morrison, David Bowie, there's quite a few.
• 41:51
  I'd like to interview Vicky McClure who played lull in.
• 41:55
  This is England. I'm really enamored with her
• 41:57
  think she's an amazing actress, Scarlett.
• 42:00
  Johansson would be cool. Suppose just generally actors.
• 42:04
  Generally, I'd love to interview, Mac DeMarco.
• 42:07
  I'm a huge fan of his work. Dallas Green, from City, and
• 42:11
  Colour, There would be another one who I'm really inspired by
• 42:16
  maybe Johnny Marr from The Smiths.
• 42:18
  That'd be cool cause I'm a big Smith's fan bother celebrities.
• 42:22
  I don't know Joaquin, Phoenix he's a big, he's a big celebrity
• 42:26
  that I'm inspired by actor. I'm inspired by maybe Johnny
• 42:30
  Depp as well. Mostly just people that I'm
• 42:33
  inspired by with music and acting I think is generally what
• 42:37
  I'm kind of enamored by him and who I would like to have on the
• 42:40
  show but to be honest T wise are also of course, before I finish
• 42:44
  actually on that point wrestling wrestlers.
• 42:47
  I would interview pretty much any at all wrestlers.
• 42:50
  I've only had one wrestler on my show in our Circle back to that
• 42:53
  but I really want to have wrestlers on my show.
• 42:57
  I love, I adore resting. I've even considered just doing
• 43:00
  a wrestling only podcast, but I'm not really sure where I
• 43:04
  would go with that. I think I could do a similar
• 43:07
  interview style podcast but it there.
• 43:09
  The demand would have to be there first.
• 43:11
  First, but I think I'd rather just have them on this show and
• 43:15
  do it. Do it as an occasional thing,
• 43:17
  but you never know. I don't know, we'll see where we
• 43:18
  go with that. But yeah, I would love to have
• 43:21
  wrestlers on my show because I love wrestling.
• 43:23
  I love talking about wrestling. I've always been a fan of it and
• 43:27
  it's something that I don't often get to talk about.
• 43:31
  I have thought about doing wrestling content, but I don't
• 43:34
  know. I just, I guess I'm a bit shy
• 43:36
  and nervous about that. You know, maybe I'll try it in
• 43:39
  the future, we'll see. But yeah, Anyway, and those are
• 43:44
  sort of the people that I would interview and that actually
• 43:47
  leads me to who was my favorite person to interview.
• 43:50
  So I mentioned that I had a restaurant, the show shout out
• 43:53
  to Matt Rivera who is also known as Matt Saxon.
• 43:58
  That for me, was a big moment because I actually did a couple
• 44:01
  of reaction. Or if a reaction video to his
• 44:04
  appearance on the American TV show Extreme Cheapskates because
• 44:08
  he actually refers to himself as As the cheap wrestler and it's
• 44:15
  because he's very frugal with his money to a fault.
• 44:18
  And this TV show that he was a part of was back in that belief
• 44:23
  2013, it was a long time ago. But recently think back in 2015,
• 44:28
  TLC released clips of that show, end of that episode and
• 44:32
  obviously you know he got a lot of attention again and he
• 44:35
  decided to leverage that and make a YouTube channel with
• 44:38
  their and he's been absolutely smashing it.
• 44:40
  He's recently just got Into wrestling after many years being
• 44:43
  away from it, which I think is amazing.
• 44:45
  I'm very excited about his career but yeah, it blew me away
• 44:50
  that he agreed to be on my podcast.
• 44:52
  I felt really taken back by that that he would take the time to
• 44:56
  do that, because he's also like a musician and a busy guy in his
• 44:59
  own. Right.
• 45:01
  And it really felt like a big deal to me, it really did.
• 45:05
  And it was nice to just be able to talk about wrestling freely,
• 45:09
  you know? Because it is a very light.
• 45:11
  If you know, you know, and if you don't know, you don't know.
• 45:13
  Like if you don't know about wrestling, a lot of the stuff
• 45:16
  we're talking about, you blow up what?
• 45:17
  What? Because we're talking with,
• 45:18
  like, Insider term. I mean, they're not really
• 45:20
  inside the terms because everyone knows them, but they
• 45:23
  are like terms that you'd only know if you were a professional
• 45:26
  wrestling fan. But yeah, that was a real
• 45:30
  favorite of mine to talk about and to have on the show, I'd
• 45:34
  love to have more wrestlers, so yeah.
• 45:36
  Wrestlers, if you want to be on my show, getting shout out to
• 45:40
  me. Um, I loved episode 10 when I
• 45:45
  had Martin, groaning, gasps, he's a Estonian musician.
• 45:49
  He's in a band called me. Leah did, which is in a stone
• 45:53
  Ian, what in English? It means billions and I actually
• 45:58
  discovered him through my ex-partner and she had really
• 46:02
  good music, taste. And then, I just, you know,
• 46:04
  obviously throughout visiting the country living there as
• 46:07
  well. Ice tonyia, I discovered, many
• 46:10
  many amazing band. Ends.
• 46:12
  And this one was one of the marked in good and Gus and
• 46:15
  millions his band and being able to have him on my show, blew my
• 46:22
  mind because, you know what, I have reached out to celebrities
• 46:26
  and okay, people outside of Estonia, might not know.
• 46:29
  I think maybe people in Lithuania Latvia might know him
• 46:32
  because he's played a few festivals.
• 46:33
  He's also played in Italy. I believe one time, but people
• 46:37
  around the world won't necessarily know who he is, but
• 46:40
  in Estonia, He's one of the biggest celebrities and it blew
• 46:46
  my mind that he was taking the time to be on my show and it
• 46:50
  really for me that was a special moment because I was literally
• 46:53
  interviewing a hero of mine and I've never had a great
• 46:56
  experience with meeting my heroes in the past.
• 46:59
  It's always been, unfortunately, a bad thing, you know, they've
• 47:03
  always had like, really bad, crappy attitudes and it ruined
• 47:07
  it for me. And that's why I always normally
• 47:09
  avoid meeting my heroes. But on this occasion, I met this
• 47:12
  guy and he was an absolute sweetheart and we just
• 47:16
  chronicled his career, we spoke about a bunch of things and his
• 47:19
  upcoming record and it was a really fun discussion and I was
• 47:24
  so excited when he agreed to be on the show.
• 47:27
  I literally, I couldn't contain my excitement.
• 47:32
  I was just so excited. And when it happened, it was
• 47:34
  surreal and I had to sort of calm myself down and compose
• 47:37
  myself. So that was a real special
• 47:41
  moment for me. Other people have had on the
• 47:43
  show, by the way, I just wanted to make a point of saying that
• 47:46
  like these are some of the episodes that stand out for me
• 47:49
  but every episode is enjoyable for me.
• 47:52
  I don't want it. These aren't these aren't I'm
• 47:54
  not singling out these ones to say like everyone else was bad
• 47:57
  because that's not the case every episode for me is an
• 48:01
  opportunity is an amazing experience and I'm always
• 48:03
  grateful H and every time it's just these particular ones stick
• 48:07
  out for me, mostly for personal reasons or for Or like
• 48:11
  particular stories that were told like for instance,
• 48:14
  Christian devold and John John Lannan had like really inspiring
• 48:18
  stories, you know, we discussed their careers, we discussed what
• 48:22
  they did but they both shared really personal stories about
• 48:28
  things like, you know, Kristen the world spoke about overcoming
• 48:32
  alcoholism and John John Lannan, shared a near-death experience.
• 48:36
  And I remember thinking when I was listening to those stories
• 48:41
  that it's amazing being able to sit and listen to these
• 48:44
  real-life stories and have them on the show.
• 48:48
  Do not. I mean, have this as part of
• 48:50
  part of the podcast and it meant that the podcast is not just for
• 48:55
  fun and, you know, to have a fun chat but it's also, we can have
• 48:59
  serious moments, you know, we can have times when we discuss
• 49:02
  serious things and, you know, discuss inspiring people and
• 49:05
  inspiring stories and that That really changed the trajectory of
• 49:10
  the podcast for me. It meant that I could do a lot
• 49:12
  of things with it. And, you know, I can we can take
• 49:17
  it in lots of different directions with some guests, we
• 49:19
  can have a fun discussion de silly comedic almost other
• 49:23
  people, it can be straight business with some people can be
• 49:26
  really serious with other people.
• 49:28
  It's random. It could go anywhere.
• 49:30
  Like I really pride myself on making this a podcast that can
• 49:33
  go in any direction. And it's all about my guests,
• 49:36
  it's all about where Kind of take it and I just dyed it.
• 49:40
  I'm just your host, but I do like that banter that back and
• 49:44
  forth and I've always had that with every single guest.
• 49:46
  I've heard princess etch was amazing to have.
• 49:51
  I guess she's probably the most famous person.
• 49:55
  I guess. I mean she's definitely been
• 49:57
  featured, very prominently in the American Media.
• 50:00
  She's even had like YouTube feature.
• 50:03
  Yeah. Actually, the website featuring
• 50:05
  her content, I believe. She is one of four Etch-a-Sketch
• 50:11
  artists in the United States and the fun thing about this
• 50:15
  episode. Well, I wasn't expecting, was
• 50:18
  that she's a fantastic business woman.
• 50:23
  Like I'll be honest, like we spoke a lot about you know, her
• 50:26
  career and being princess Edge, but I was really just excited
• 50:32
  about talking business with her because she has a great mind for
• 50:35
  business. I could literally have her on
• 50:36
  the show for another two or three hours and we could just
• 50:39
  talk straight business because it literally went so well.
• 50:42
  She had a really good mind for it and that is one of those a
• 50:46
  classic example of like when you have someone on your show and
• 50:50
  they surprise you and this is why I never I never go into any
• 50:55
  episode thinking, it's going to be this way.
• 50:58
  It's going to be that way. I just keep an open mind and I
• 51:01
  get excited because it's like, hey, you never know where this
• 51:04
  is going to go, it could go in any direction.
• 51:07
  Let's just see what happens. And this was a perfect example
• 51:10
  of that, really, really rare. Highly recommend you go check
• 51:13
  out, check out all of these. Check out any of these episodes.
• 51:16
  There's a hundred episodes now. No, excuse.
• 51:19
  I, I think that the, my absolute favorite probably has to be the
• 51:23
  episode I did on Daydreaming because I had to suffer of
• 51:28
  maladaptive daydreaming, which is a behavioral addiction, and
• 51:34
  she chose to remain anonymous and that was totally fine by me.
• 51:39
  And I wondered like, how can I do this episode?
• 51:41
  And I chose to approach it. Like, I do everything else still
• 51:44
  an interview but I knew I needed to do a lot of research going
• 51:48
  in, you know, I knew that it would be good to get this person
• 51:51
  to give their kind of Understanding of the of the
• 51:58
  illness and put it in their own words, but I needed to know my
• 52:02
  stuff. I needed to know so that I could
• 52:03
  guide the conversation and ask them the right questions as
• 52:06
  well. And we had a fantastic
• 52:09
  conversation. We really got into depth about
• 52:14
  the illness and like, you know, where it's, where it's going and
• 52:18
  what the latest science says and stuff.
• 52:20
  And to be honest, it seemed to be embraced by the maladaptive
• 52:23
  daydreaming. Is well, it seems that everyone
• 52:26
  was really happy with the episode and they thought I did a
• 52:29
  good job interviewing the person and and then it actually stands
• 52:33
  as kind of a useful tool, which is what I wanted it to be.
• 52:36
  Because there had doesn't have seemed to be a lot of stuff out
• 52:39
  there about maladaptive daydreaming.
• 52:41
  The only stuff I could really find is as one website that the
• 52:44
  person mentioned I had on the show.
• 52:47
  There's a pretty good Reddit Community where everyone
• 52:49
  supports each other. And then there's just a bunch of
• 52:51
  stuff about if you've ever seen the movie.
• 52:54
  See The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, what he's going through
• 52:59
  whenever he's just like, zoning out, that's actually maladaptive
• 53:03
  daydreaming, or at least an extreme example of it, like,
• 53:06
  you're all these crazy scenarios happen.
• 53:08
  Like they're not actually happening, he's daydreaming, but
• 53:11
  it feels very real to him. And other than that, there's not
• 53:16
  really much out there like even from the, the scientist, who the
• 53:19
  professor, who actually deal with.
• 53:21
  I can't remember his name off the top of my head but who's
• 53:23
  actually done. Economist.
• 53:24
  There's only like a few entries here and there and the most
• 53:27
  recent thing was that the illness has now been classified
• 53:30
  as a behavioral addiction as opposed to just a straight
• 53:34
  mental health illness. So, yeah, that was that was a
• 53:38
  really good episode. It was challenging.
• 53:40
  I had to do a lot of research more so than I normally do, but
• 53:44
  it pushed me in a good way. I really enjoyed the episode I
• 53:50
  did with David Soma, Fleck as a business guy from the States,
• 53:54
  who we had a good rapport with. And with that, I was able to
• 53:58
  just talk straight marketing and straight business with him, you
• 54:01
  know? And I've had a few business
• 54:02
  owners on the show before, so it's not new to me to discuss
• 54:06
  business on the podcast. But with this particular guy, we
• 54:10
  just seem to have a good rapport and he was very easy to talk to,
• 54:13
  he gives good stories. He's very candid.
• 54:17
  And yeah, it's just good chemistry there, Good Vibes.
• 54:20
  And you know, I always say to all my guests that they're
• 54:23
  always welcome. On the show and, you know, he's
• 54:25
  been a repeat guests, he's a good example of that.
• 54:29
  I'd say my episode with Eleonora Lynn Oscar.
• 54:33
  I think that's how you say her name was interesting.
• 54:37
  It was a different kind of vibe. That's what I have written in my
• 54:39
  notes here and it was a very long episode.
• 54:43
  I wasn't expecting it to be that long but I embraced it.
• 54:47
  I really enjoyed the discussion. We Vibe quite well and she just
• 54:51
  had a totally different Perspective on life.
• 54:55
  And it's always really interesting.
• 54:56
  When you meet someone like that in life, that has a different
• 55:00
  perspective on life, a different approach to things.
• 55:02
  It's always Really inspiring and just different interesting.
• 55:09
  You know it kind of challenges your own thoughts and beliefs
• 55:12
  about life and the way that you look at life and that's
• 55:15
  certainly how I looked at it. I just looked at it as a real
• 55:18
  kind of amazing. Interviewing.
• 55:21
  I'm very proud of it. I'm proud of all the episodes
• 55:23
  that I put out there but there are particular ones that I'm
• 55:26
  really really proud of and I always look back on and say,
• 55:29
  Hey, you know, this was a good, this is something I could be
• 55:32
  proud of right here. Final shout out, would be the
• 55:36
  Hearst Brothers, the main two things I have written down here,
• 55:41
  is that? Yeah, they were easy to talk to
• 55:44
  and to be honest, we could have spoken forever and we actually
• 55:48
  commented afterwards because I think it got to like two or
• 55:51
  three hours and I called it. And I said to the guys that I
• 55:54
  could have just kept going to be honest.
• 55:56
  And so could they? It was such a good discussion,
• 55:59
  really good vibes that Canadian boys and I always have a really
• 56:03
  good. Pull with Canadians.
• 56:04
  Do not really easy to talk to all that quite a few Canadians
• 56:07
  on the show. Actually.
• 56:09
  So this isn't the first instance of that.
• 56:13
  But, yeah, just very easy to talk to you, good vibes.
• 56:17
  Very highly enjoyable. But let yeah.
• 56:21
  Now, we've answered that in detail.
• 56:22
  Let's move on to some of the rest of your questions.
• 56:26
  Have you learned anything about yourself during these 100
• 56:29
  episodes? Well, the short answer is yes.
• 56:34
  I think the main thing that I've learnt is what two things I've
• 56:39
  learnt A lesson that I already knew but it's basically
• 56:43
  reinforced and that is, you know, practice makes perfect.
• 56:47
  You start something. You're going to be a bit shaky,
• 56:51
  you know, I had a very clear perception of what I thought the
• 56:53
  podcast was beat, would be, there was two reasons I started
• 56:57
  the podcast, like, one of them was because I wanted to keep
• 57:00
  doing podcasting after I did the tcj podcast because it ended
• 57:04
  quite mature prematurely. And secondly shoutouts to
• 57:09
  Childish jerk. Oh Friend of mine.
• 57:11
  He sort of said, to me, one day that he actually listened to the
• 57:14
  Vlogs that I put on YouTube. And he said that he really
• 57:17
  enjoyed just putting them on the background and listen to them.
• 57:21
  Like as though they were a mini podcast and that just sparked an
• 57:25
  idea in my head, I was like, oh, really it's interesting like
• 57:30
  that because obviously it's kind of a mean but like my Vlogs are
• 57:35
  normally really long that at least a half an hour and that's
• 57:37
  like most podcasts. At least 30 minutes right?
• 57:42
  And I figured out why don't I just do that if people find it
• 57:45
  interesting, why not? Why not put something out there
• 57:47
  that resembles a podcast? Why not give it a go and so I
• 57:51
  did I started doing it and Yeah, I suppose that you know I
• 57:56
  learned is the same lesson that I learned when I was doing
• 57:59
  blogging, two years ago. And you know, if you go back and
• 58:02
  listen to that some of my early Vlogs, I am, bro, p, and all
• 58:06
  over the place. I don't know where if I'm coming
• 58:09
  or going, I, I'd come across very shy and nervous and, you
• 58:13
  know, I haven't really figured out how to talk to the camera.
• 58:16
  Whereas now I'm very used to it. I do it all the time.
• 58:20
  I don't get shy or nervous or anything.
• 58:23
  I'm just used to it now. And that just comes through
• 58:26
  sheer practice. So that's a lesson that was like
• 58:30
  reinforced for me through podcasting.
• 58:32
  I think the other thing I've learned is that and I don't like
• 58:36
  normally saying, you know, complimenting myself, I try not
• 58:39
  to because I think it's a bit douchey, but since this question
• 58:43
  is, asking, what have you learned about yourself?
• 58:46
  I'd say, I've learned that, I'm a good interviewer, and I can
• 58:48
  hold a conversation and, and, you know, I didn't always
• 58:52
  believed I was a good conversationalist.
• 58:53
  I think that's something that's kind.
• 58:55
  Come later in life, I guess. Yeah.
• 58:59
  If I could put it shortly or briefly succinctly, is that this
• 59:02
  podcast has taught me in the past, 100 episodes, how to be a
• 59:06
  good conversationalist and that has come through adapting to
• 59:12
  each and every guest. And, you know, I wouldn't say
• 59:16
  change in myself Posse but adapting to their Vibe and
• 59:19
  trying to get a conversation out of them.
• 59:22
  And that's a good life skill to have as well being able to get
• 59:25
  Conversation out of anyone that you're dealing with Deuteronomy
• 59:30
  because every single human being is different and you have to
• 59:32
  approach each social situation differently, you'll likely to
• 59:36
  meet people that are similar have similar Vibes and you'll be
• 59:40
  like I've met someone like this this person similar to this
• 59:42
  person. I know but it'll never be 100%
• 59:45
  the same and sometimes you'll just meet someone who's just
• 59:48
  totally different that you've never met before and you just
• 59:51
  gotta figure out a way to work with it.
• 59:53
  And that's one thing in real life when you have in a
• 59:55
  conversation because you've got the choice of just walking away
• 59:57
  and not having the conversation, but you don't have that luxury
• 1:00:00
  with a podcast. You know, you've got to make it
• 1:00:03
  work. So it's a real Challenge and I
• 1:00:05
  think I've just learned to be persistent and I've learned to
• 1:00:10
  adapt well, and I've learnt how to construct good interviews,
• 1:00:14
  and I think a big thing for me is switching it up from being a
• 1:00:19
  straight interview podcast and turning it into a discussion
• 1:00:22
  based podcast as I sort of spoke about Earlier in the podcast.
• 1:00:27
  It's very important for me to get that discussion and that
• 1:00:30
  conversation going that for me is always going to be a better
• 1:00:34
  episode. Then if I'm just going through
• 1:00:35
  the questions because sometimes, you know, you just can't get
• 1:00:38
  that conversation flowing. I've had a few episodes like
• 1:00:41
  that, where it was a bit more regimented and, you know, it's
• 1:00:44
  just how it was, you know, maybe the guest was a bit shy, maybe
• 1:00:48
  we just didn't have the sort of Rapport that I've had with other
• 1:00:51
  guests. That happens, but I've still got
• 1:00:54
  a kind of go through the motions.
• 1:00:55
  Motions and ask them certain questions and I guess every time
• 1:00:59
  I ask a new question, I'm trying to get a new line of discussion
• 1:01:02
  formed, you know, but it's not always going to definitely work
• 1:01:05
  out. Let's move on.
• 1:01:09
  How do podcasts influence life today?
• 1:01:13
  So this is an interesting question, I think that podcasts
• 1:01:19
  influence us in terms of being one or two things, either they
• 1:01:24
  are a tool. We use.
• 1:01:28
  That we can learn from, you know, we can, we can learn
• 1:01:30
  skills. We can use them for sort of
• 1:01:33
  constructive purposes for education purposes, or it's just
• 1:01:38
  sheer escapism. It's a thing, you know, this is
• 1:01:41
  what I normally do. I normally put a podcast on in
• 1:01:44
  the background as a comfort thing while I'm working.
• 1:01:48
  Or, you know, sometimes when you know, when I was in Estonia and
• 1:01:51
  I had like, really long Journeys to get to places or it was like
• 1:01:54
  really dark winter. I would just stick on podcasts,
• 1:01:57
  you know, I wouldn't Listen to music.
• 1:01:58
  I just listen to podcasts and it would get me buy it with a
• 1:02:02
  almost felt like familiar voices.
• 1:02:04
  It felt like people that you could always check in with and
• 1:02:07
  listen to and it was a nice thing, a comforting thing to
• 1:02:11
  come back to. So I think that's sort of the
• 1:02:15
  general way that podcast influence life, they are just a
• 1:02:19
  part of society. Now there are very useful tool.
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  I'll go to be honest, I do kind of feel a bit of a Groan.
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  Every time I see that there's a new podcast because it's like,
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  okay, let's just see how long you go with it.
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  For me. The only things that really
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  excite me about podcast is if there's a different format,
• 1:02:40
  something new. Like, for instance, shout to the
• 1:02:43
  hard, Mark podcast, Eric Donaldson who was recently on
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  the show, spoke about his podcast format, and I was really
• 1:02:50
  intrigued. And I've actually started
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  listening to it in my own spare time because I like the format,
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  it's something different. It's refreshing.
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  Because there's so many podcasts out there that don't have a
• 1:03:02
  format and it's literally just some guys fucking around and
• 1:03:06
  just having conversations and it's like it's not really.
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  Something that I don't think that's, that's a podcast.
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  By the way, that's people leaving my flat.
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  I can't help that, but yeah, I don't think that that's a
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  podcast. I think you can, you can
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  potentially turn that into podcasts.
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  And I've heard people do that where, you know, maybe they
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  record for, like, 3 hours and they cut it down and they, and
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  they managed to make like, a best of the conversation.
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  And I think that that takes a lot of commitment.
• 1:03:39
  And I respect that, but there are really People have seen that
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  just literally put out like a three-hour podcast and it's
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  literally just people chatting absolute crap.
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  And it's like, look, you may think that this is funny to be
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  part of, but to listen to, It's Almost unlistenable.
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  And I think the only reason it's unlistenable is because there's
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  no structure to it when you're listening to a podcast, you need
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  something that flows. Something that's easy to digest,
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  you know. It goes from one topic to the
• 1:04:09
  next, you'll noticed with This episode I've gone from each
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  topic. I haven't bounced around.
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  I might have gone a few tangents here and there but I always
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  brought it back. You have to have something you
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  can follow. It's like a lesson plan.
• 1:04:23
  I remember, I never forget. I saw Greg Davies, the comedian.
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  I think back in God 2012 2013, something like that.
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  And he used to be a former teacher and, you know, obviously
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  he was famously played a teacher in The Inbetweeners.
• 1:04:39
  Its character was He's a he's a comedian in his own right and
• 1:04:43
  everything and he chose to do this particular stand up.
• 1:04:51
  Like he chose to do it like a lesson plan.
• 1:04:53
  He literally had a board at the side of the stage and he went
• 1:04:56
  through topic by topic. Like it was a lesson plan and it
• 1:04:59
  was absolutely excellent. And and it flowed well and every
• 1:05:03
  good comedian I've ever seen him in.
• 1:05:06
  You know, throughout the years has done the same thing.
• 1:05:08
  They have a good format there are Comedians out there that
• 1:05:12
  just do joke to joke to joke, but I don't know.
• 1:05:15
  Personally, I don't like that as much.
• 1:05:17
  I liked it better when they're telling stories, when they're
• 1:05:19
  kind of going from thing to thing.
• 1:05:21
  And particularly, when they kind of tie things up in a fun way,
• 1:05:25
  like the end of the joke on the last.
• 1:05:28
  The last joke at the end of the show ties into something, they
• 1:05:31
  said at the very beginning or something like that, like I
• 1:05:34
  think good storytelling is always going to be the most
• 1:05:38
  alluring thing in anything that you do in life.
• 1:05:41
  Particularly with comedy and especially with podcasting.
• 1:05:46
  So yeah. Wow, I've gone on quite a
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  tangent from how podcast influence life.
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  I do apologize. And how does it feel to reach
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  100 episodes special? It feels special to reach 100
• 1:06:03
  episodes. It feels like an actual real
• 1:06:06
  achievement. Sometimes I think I've been
• 1:06:10
  thinking a lot about how long we're going to do this podcast,
• 1:06:13
  I think it's just going to continue, you know, because when
• 1:06:16
  I look at just doing the podcast like once a week for example,
• 1:06:20
  it's not really that much effort, you know, it does is a
• 1:06:23
  lot of effort to put it out, edit it and stuff, but I really
• 1:06:26
  enjoy it, you know? And I enjoy having these
• 1:06:28
  conversations and I like, having this thing that is ongoing and
• 1:06:32
  has been going on for a while, it's fun.
• 1:06:34
  It's cool. That there is something like
• 1:06:36
  that that exists that I have done.
• 1:06:39
  And I just like it, I like having it on in the background
• 1:06:42
  like, while I'm not not listening to it, I meant by
• 1:06:45
  having this thing that I continually do that keeps
• 1:06:48
  growing and keeps growing and keeps evolving while I'm doing
• 1:06:51
  everything else because as you guys may or may not know, expose
• 1:06:55
  those who only listens to the podcast, won't know this.
• 1:06:57
  But I do a lot of stuff on Tick, Tock and YouTube and, you know,
• 1:07:02
  with music and acting and all these different things and that
• 1:07:06
  takes up a lot of my time, most of my time and And so it means
• 1:07:10
  that a lot less time goes into the podcast but I think it's
• 1:07:13
  better like this because you know I do feel like less is
• 1:07:17
  more. This one episode a week Vibe
• 1:07:21
  really works at least for me. It's a lot less pressure on me.
• 1:07:25
  It means that I really enjoy and look forward to doing these
• 1:07:29
  episodes when they come and it puts a lot.
• 1:07:33
  Less pressure on me, you'd be surprised how much pressure.
• 1:07:37
  It is to put out something regularly.
• 1:07:39
  And this is why I've never picked a specific day to like,
• 1:07:43
  put out an episode because I don't want that pressure.
• 1:07:45
  You know, there's bit, it's been weeks when I haven't put our
• 1:07:48
  episodes, you know, for whatever reason, maybe guests dropped
• 1:07:51
  out, which I'll get back to you by the way.
• 1:07:54
  Yeah. And and you know, I'm just like
• 1:07:56
  to know where it can wait a little bit.
• 1:07:58
  I've put out so many episodes. There's plenty of content out
• 1:08:00
  there. People can wait, it's okay.
• 1:08:02
  It's not it's not a big deal but I do feel like one episode a
• 1:08:06
  week. Is not that difficult to commit
• 1:08:08
  to. Now, when it comes to people
• 1:08:11
  dropping out, my God, this happens all the time, it's the
• 1:08:16
  most frustrating thing ever and there's literally nothing you
• 1:08:22
  can do about it. So I mean a lot of the time
• 1:08:23
  people will reschedule and as fine I weirdly always seem to
• 1:08:28
  know when people are going to drop out, I just get a feeling
• 1:08:31
  on the day that they're going to drop out and a lot of the time
• 1:08:35
  there's been many That just never.
• 1:08:37
  Get back to me, they never say anything and it's bizarre I've
• 1:08:41
  had guests where we rescheduled it several times and each and
• 1:08:45
  every time they let me down and I don't get annoyed, I don't get
• 1:08:49
  upset or anything. I give people basically two
• 1:08:53
  chances and then once they break that, I just don't bother
• 1:08:56
  anymore because I'm like that. If you can't if you can't
• 1:08:59
  basically make it to the second time and we've already
• 1:09:01
  rescheduled like twice like I'm not going to give you another
• 1:09:05
  chance like you clearly. We just don't want to be on the
• 1:09:07
  podcast and you know what, it's fine, I would much rather.
• 1:09:10
  People be honest with me and just say I don't want to be on
• 1:09:13
  the show rather than mess me around, didn't I mean and I'm
• 1:09:17
  sure many people out there have dealt with this.
• 1:09:20
  I know I've had a few podcasters on the show that have kind of
• 1:09:22
  reciprocated. This is feeling this
• 1:09:24
  frustration. I think the key thing you have
• 1:09:27
  to remember, it's not just about podcasting.
• 1:09:29
  It's about having a respect for people's time, not wasting
• 1:09:33
  people's time. You know what I mean?
• 1:09:35
  Respect, other, Time, you know what I mean?
• 1:09:38
  Because obviously, we're not do a podcast.
• 1:09:40
  I reach out to the person just before and I say, hey, you still
• 1:09:43
  available. I've learned to do this recently
• 1:09:45
  because people let you down so much and also sometimes, you
• 1:09:49
  know, life happens. I'm not, I'm not having a go at
• 1:09:51
  people that, you know, genuinely have good reason for needing to
• 1:09:55
  cancel, but the people that have good reason even will get in
• 1:09:59
  touch with you or reply promptly and we'll reschedule, you know,
• 1:10:03
  and that's fine. I'm totally fine with that.
• 1:10:05
  You got something that comes Zup.
• 1:10:07
  Hey life life happens, right? But don't waste people's time.
• 1:10:12
  Don't don't just ghost people, you know, ironically I remember
• 1:10:16
  I was supposed to have someone on the show to discuss
• 1:10:19
  ghostwriting and I did loads of research for it and I was really
• 1:10:23
  excited about it. I got questions from my
• 1:10:26
  listeners who are excited about it and then ironically, they
• 1:10:29
  ghosted me, they didn't get in touch.
• 1:10:33
  I emailed them several times. Got in touch with them, they
• 1:10:35
  never bothered to To me and I just think that that's really
• 1:10:38
  disrespectful. If you don't want to be on the
• 1:10:41
  show anymore, just tell me just be straight up just say, hey,
• 1:10:44
  I'm sorry, I'm not interested anymore.
• 1:10:46
  That's fine. Least I know at least you've
• 1:10:48
  given me the common courtesy of telling me if you don't say
• 1:10:52
  anything. I'm sorry, I just lose all
• 1:10:54
  respect for you and I just have in those, in his nose instances,
• 1:10:59
  but whatever. Okay, so I've got a couple of
• 1:11:05
  questions here, like, why did I start the podcast importance
• 1:11:09
  relevance of podcast and Modern Life?
• 1:11:10
  I've kind of addressed them already.
• 1:11:12
  I guess what I'll do with regards to drawing this to a
• 1:11:15
  close is I will focus on saying. Thank you.
• 1:11:21
  Thank you to everyone that has agreed to be on the show.
• 1:11:27
  I appreciate each and everyone of you.
• 1:11:31
  You've just made the experience fantastic.
• 1:11:34
  And I've enjoyed every moment of that, I really feel like I've
• 1:11:38
  grown, I've gained, I think I've gained a lot of confidence in
• 1:11:41
  myself, through this podcast, through interviewing people,
• 1:11:44
  through meeting people. And as I spoke about earlier,
• 1:11:47
  you know, inevitably I've learnt from each and every experience
• 1:11:51
  I've learned through those people because you're talking to
• 1:11:53
  people, you're gaining things from those people and that will
• 1:11:57
  always be something that sticks out in my mind.
• 1:11:59
  And inspires, So, thank you so much to everyone that's been on
• 1:12:04
  the show. It's taken the time to be on my
• 1:12:06
  show. Just thank you to everyone.
• 1:12:10
  That's reached out and showed interest.
• 1:12:12
  Thank you to everyone who listens to the Christian read
• 1:12:14
  podcast, who shares my content, who, who follows me.
• 1:12:18
  Thank you to everyone in the community and the Discord
• 1:12:21
  community and on Tick Tock and stuff that sending questions and
• 1:12:25
  show interest and stuff. I really appreciate all of you.
• 1:12:28
  It keeps pushing me too. You know, continue this podcast
• 1:12:32
  and keep putting it out there and keep growing and I'm
• 1:12:37
  excited. Like I said, in the beginning, I
• 1:12:39
  am really excited about where this podcast could go.
• 1:12:43
  We've reached 100 100 episodes. Who knows where we'll go in the
• 1:12:50
  future with this. Thank you so much for listening
• 1:12:54
  to the Christian Reef podcast and as always until next time to
• 1:13:01
  the next 100 episodes of the Christian, we've podcast be
• 1:13:05
  safe, be well and I'll see you in the next.