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Browns x Jaguars: Week 1 Reactions - Browns Get Smoked in Deshaun Watson's Return - Cleveland Browns Podcast for 9/13/26 · The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast

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• 0:37
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• 0:43
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• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: what was supposed to be a football game today, but I don't know if the Browns got the memo, just a just a bismal.
• 1:20
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  [SPEAKER_10]: We were, if they took maybe maybe five minutes and I was already just rooting for Chaos.
• 1:35
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• 1:43
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• 1:45
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• 2:42
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• 2:54
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  [SPEAKER_10]: So we'll dive into the episode here.
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: And I'd just like to say, I feel more prepared for this episode.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_10]: And then I believe the Cleveland Browns were for their weekland matchup against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: 100% Yeah, there's no way we're going to put out a worse episode than that.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: There's no way.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_10]: So talk about
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_10]: an embarrassment on almost all fronts.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: There was like one part of this game where I thought the Browns look like an improved football team.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: Other than that, I don't know if it could have been much worse for the Browns.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_10]: And that's saying something because I expected us to be a bad football team.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: And this was even worse than I expected.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_10]: This felt like
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_10]: This felt like Freddy Kitchens against the Titans.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: And somebody corrected me in the discord and said the difference was as we thought that team was gonna be good at it, you know.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_10]: So that felt worse.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_10]: But that's how unprepared I felt, how not ready, how not even close to being on a level playing field RB just dominated in every facet of the game.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_10]: It couldn't have been much worse for the Cleveland Browns.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: What did you do?
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: Dude, I am like just as strong as buyer defense like they were a bismal.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: You got to give Kudos to Trevor Lawrence.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: He looked fantastic, but every quarter back a look fantastic if they have five seconds to throw the ball.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: We got no pressures.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: No pressures at all.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: Josh, I can't remember what you sent us in our group packs.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Say that out loud.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got it right here from ESPN research.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is Hat Tip, Daniel Ofuse on X.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: As Jaguar's quarterback Trevor Lawrence was under direct on just four out of 24 drawbacks.
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: 17% today, our defense had the fourth highest pressure rate in the NFL last year at 36.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: We had just 17% today.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jared verse did not have a single quarterback pressure today.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: So he's right up there with Miles Garrett.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I guess the trades even at this point.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: But he had four teams.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_11]: He did.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, that's what he said.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's right.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: He did have that that going for him.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: The Sean Watson was his bet.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like I'm not surprised about the Sean Watson.
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: We got on here.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: I was talking to you guys.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: I actually put out his, his stat line.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like I said, like what last time we spoke 38 yards rushing about 150 yards passing.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: He'll have an interception.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: He just threw to tensile Boston and just ruined it for me.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: But, I mean, at the end of the day, you know, I was glad to see Boston have that and that's something he can build on.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: But, I mean, through all phases, except the special teams, it was a disappointment.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was brutal, man.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, in like Blake said, it only took a couple plays.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, we only had the ball for what?
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Three, three passes.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: The third pass of Deshawn Watts and got intercepted is like, oh boy, he sucks.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we suck.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then the Jaguars goes straight down the field and score like this is gonna be a bad game.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it got bad.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then it got worse.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then it got really worse.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: What's kind of, you don't blowouts don't, aren't supposed to happen in the NFL.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like, this is like, we lost this game 34 to three essentially.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: All right, the touchdowns, they're back up at the end.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_10]: You know, yeah, nothing.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: We had a 75-year-old intern.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, I think it's generated zero points today.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: Literally, was that?
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_10]: And was, I think I said in the discord, I said, the 16 points per game, we average last year's looking pretty good right now.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, look at pretty good right now at that 16 points for game a couple a couple of things in here.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_10]: I want to address real quick A bunch of comments saying this Blake still think Watson's better than Sanders.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: I never said that I thought Watson was better than Sanders.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_10]: I have been
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: out on to Sean Watson since before most people I was out on him before the year before his last season starting for the Browns.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_10]: I said Todd Munkin thought he was better and that it wasn't like some conspiracy theory as to why he was starting.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_10]: I never said I think to Sean Watson is better than Shouldora Sanders.
• 7:27
  [SPEAKER_10]: I think to Sean Watson is not playable in the NFL.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: after this season hopefully.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: No.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_10]: So let's just put that out right now.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's not true.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: I never once said that Watson was better than Shoulder.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_10]: I didn't get to watch any post game stuff really, but I don't understand how you could so you spent basically doing damage control since they announced to Sean being the starter.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: And then he comes out and does this performance, which again, he wasn't the only issue, but he was a huge issue, but like the defense was atrocious.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't understand how you can then stand up and try to continue to spin it.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't like we have eyes and this wasn't the first day we've seen it we this is how he's played Essentially his entire time in Cleveland there's been like a couple bright spots But 99% of his games in Cleveland this is what we've gotten so there's no way you can stand up there and continue to spin it that he is
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: Gives us the I just don't understand there's no way I refuse to believe I don't even think Dylan Gabriel would have played that poorly now he's on IR obviously But I just the I refuse to believe any other person on a roster would have played that that poorly.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_10]: He looks terrified and you He is so lucky that this game was on the road.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_10]: Can you imagine if he throws a pick on his third or fourth pass attempt in Cleveland?
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they won't be able to put him back.
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's gonna be bottle key
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_10]: He didn't put him on.
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: You're not right on him, man.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I look at my watch as like is this 2024 because this is the exact continuation of what we saw in that year, you know, he does not look comfortable in the pocket, like his pocket presence is awful.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: like his pockets collapsed in the NFL.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: You have to move to the side to throw the ball.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: He can't pass to the flats.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's lucky he got the one down field, but he was one for five over 20 for any type of explosive play.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: And you know, he just, you know, he just can't read a defense and it's just not going to happen.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: that interceptions he threw that's the same interception we've seen him throw a million times in Cleveland where he doesn't see the underneath defender he throws it right to him they got it's an easy ass interception and just put your hands up catch the ball he thrown it right to you we saw it in joint practice against the bill says the interception he threw I posted so many videos of him throwing that same pick during training camp and here it is again it's like
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_10]: Zach Jackson, I think posted after the pick today said that's the same interception he's thrown for four weeks of training camp.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_10]: And if you if you if you are somebody who bets just bet to Sean Watson one plus interception.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: You remember a couple of years ago where like the safest bet and football was Christian McCaffer any time.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's down.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_10]: Did it like many games in a row or something?
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: bet you can just if Deshawn Watson's playing, you can bet one plus interception for the Brown for him.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: You will hit every single time.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: Now the odds are probably negative 70,000 because everybody knows that it's coming.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's going to happen.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: But it's going to be the easiest bet in football.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_10]: Another comment I want to address here is said, only two targets for fan and in chunk time.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: I thought this coach knew what he was doing, but not to even have him in the game
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_10]: When you have the check-down king at quarterback, how is he not, how we're not getting fan in the ball at all?
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, this is just an extension of what happened in training camp in the preseason.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: They don't, they don't have a good connection.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: We've said it many times on this podcast before.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: I, I don't see them having a connection period.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's not going to happen.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't see him.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: Mate, most of his major catches fan in that is that came with Shidorah, same with Bond.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and here's the issue and we've kind of already, can I think you touched on it?
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is the problem with the Sean Watson, you know, and it's not, it's not just like a Harold fan and not being in the gets, it's, it's a Jerry Judy, it's a Casey concepts, you don't know, Boston.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to get the ball thrown to you when you're quarterback panics immediately when there's pressure immediately.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean as soon as alignment gets pushed back, I step.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is looking to bail.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's, oh my God, how do I get out of here?
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's trying to find a lane, trying to run.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: That every single throw he made today pretty much.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Unless it was like a quick, you know, three yard check down real fast throw, he was making it on the run.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he was out, he was trying to bail.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this is exactly what we knew it was gonna look like.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: If he started a game,
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: There it was for everybody to hear he's on the run and he doesn't throw create on the run.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, okay, let's talk about that because he throws the pick on those third pass and then the next series.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: They go three and out, but he should have thrown a pick.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: He threw it on the run through the ball clearly way behind Harold Fanon that the defender just dropped it the low pick.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then he had what he got sacked on the next drive, fumbled, luckily fell on it.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then later, fumbled again, but luckily his knee was down.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it didn't count.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like we could have had four turnovers from him today and if in the jaguars, they would have scored on every single one of them.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this game could have been like 50 something to nothing.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's how bad it was.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_10]: It was, it was even worse than I thought it was going to be and I had below zero expectations.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_10]: Another comment I saw in here said, what about all the penalties, 11 penalties?
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's another something I wouldn't.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: not just a Sean.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_10]: So I think if Todd Munkin can look at the Sean Watson in state still say we should start him, that's a fireball offense.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's kind of like if Ryan Day thinks Arthur Smith is a good offensive coordinator fireball offense.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'm Sam and I think so that that's one check against him too and it's not just how bad
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: penalties.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: We were sitting first in 30 at one point.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_10]: And supposedly the reason to Sean's got the leg up is the operation, multiple delay games, multiple two walls starts.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: It just, it was, they looked lost.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_10]: They looked abysmal.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: They didn't play with any energy.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_10]: I was, I was ready to move on from Jim Schwartz's defense
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: It was just the same stuff over and over again that was killing us like I just thought a French voice in there with players.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: My hot take was that the defense might not have as many sacks, but they would statistically be like a better overall defense with adding Jared Verse, Quincy Williams, getting a new voice and it the defense of coordinator position, defense had zero life.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_10]: They were terrible, they were tackling man, awful.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_10]: It it honest a guy we looked checked out.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's week one.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know if my monkey's probably a one.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's a one and done.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah, based on what I'm based on it's good.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_10]: It is so bad right now, and I hate being like hyperbolic and overreacting to one week, but oh my, the team looked, the team looked complete, this is the one game.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_10]: You will never have more time to prepare for an opponent.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_10]: We've known for how long now that we are going to be playing the Jacksonville Jaguars in week one.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: you'll never have more time to prepare.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: And this is the product you put on the field, this is the level of preparation we're going to expect.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_10]: I expected some, some maybe some like a legal formation penalties or some procedure penalties with all the young guys we're going to be starting.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_10]: This was at a level that I was not expecting.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: all to the late games dude three three neutral zone infractions.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: Obviously we had holding we thought we're going to see a two on Zion Johnson.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: There was two special teams where am I at now like eight penalties three more who knows what would out to from to Sean Watson, right?
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_11]: So it was through the whole facet of the team.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I, you know, the Zion Johnson holds and just the tackle plate because there was a couple of plays where like Fano was holding guys, but didn't get called and it's like, I don't know, did you guys see the replay that was going around X, the little clip about Dishon Watson's in the shotgun.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's already six years behind the line of skirmish.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then he takes an eight step drop.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: What are the tackle supposed to do when you're running a mile behind the line?
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got to step in the pocket.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's so thick and terrible that, and we like Blake's said, we heard about this so much, all leading up to this.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then as soon as they named it in the starter, that's operation, procedural awareness and, you increase snap and all this stuff to shine.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's doing so far ahead of Shador, really.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: because I didn't see any of that today.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_10]: No, it was so bad.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: It just, I remembered that I remembered when we hired Monk in the collective fan base was all like, what the, what, yes.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_10]: This is the guy, this is the guy we hired.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: this is this is what we're going to do and then everybody tried to talk to themselves into that he was going to be good because he's a straight shooter at the he's a straight shooter at the podium.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, he doesn't take any crap from these these media people.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's a football guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_10]: Say what you want about Kevin, we looked more prepared to pay a football game.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: We might not have played well, but this we didn't lose games like this very often.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_10]: If we got blown out with Kevin in the last few years, we were competitive for two and a half three quarter.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_10]: And then they would pull you know, I mean, this was from the word go.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_10]: We were not competitive.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: So we literally had the fumble and fell apart.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: We had the fumble.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: We had the interception I meant to say, we fell apart and we had a fumble and then we were done.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: And it was 24 to nothing.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: And just that was the first answer for anything.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_10]: Monk is supposed to be this like offensive guy.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_10]: And I don't agree with an answer to all the time, but we get the big kick return, okay?
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: We've maybe we have a little bit of momentum.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_10]: And on play one, we run like a dive.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, for nothing.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: And they were like, guys, you finally, you finally have a little bit of momentum.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_10]: Why not take a shot and know why you don't take a shot because you know your quarterback is shit.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_10]: You don't want to, you don't want to throw a pick when you have a little bit of momentum.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: We got down to third and two from their three yard line on that drive.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then what did we do?
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: The live game.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we throw a new complete pass.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then when they went out and kicked the field goal there, I was like,
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they know he sucks.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: They just don't want to get shut out.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no other written.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why would you kick a field goal there?
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you need a million points, go for it.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: They know they're not coming back to score.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Any, again, this game.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they're going to take the three.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was pathetic.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, do we score points ever this year?
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: Because we thought the offense was bad the last two years.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: There's a chance even with better talent.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_10]: If Dishon doesn't get hurt, and they don't yank him.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_10]: And they play him, that we might have a statistically worse often, so we did last year, which I didn't even know as possible.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that it was sleeper, sleeper, browns on X posted something before the game, like, call your shot, who scores the first browns touch down today?
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, are we shirt comes today?
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was almost right.
• 19:09
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• 19:16
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• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: Let's get to a couple of voicemails here before we just talk about everything they talk about.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, that's good.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, we'll start it off with Braddie, where who we thought they were.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_09]: What?
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_09]: And the actual hell was that?
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_09]: Bro, yo, it's your favorite negative Browns fan.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: Brad, money maker.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: Guess what?
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_09]: Everyone in this organization is a war criminal and terrorist against Browns fans.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_09]: Putting the Sean Watson on the field.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely, I've seen high school quarterbacks played better than that bro and the defense were they even their bro like they were just like, oh, yeah, I'm just not going to cover nobody and like there's not really a lot to say good about this game at all whatsoever.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_09]: It was embarrassing.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: It looked terrible.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_09]: It's like
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_09]: We got a huge action as a head coach again.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what to say, man.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, this is rough.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: And it's rough for me not to do a song or anything, but this was a really rough game.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I've been a fan since 99 and it's real rough to continue to be a fan on this team.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_09]: It's hard, man.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: And a man.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_09]: All right, well, let's go Browns.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think that's the game.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_09]: Wolf Wolf, rough, see you next week.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I will say, like,
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: We, like Blake just said it too, when they first hired Monkin, we were like, the initial gut reaction was really, because that's not who we wanted.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't want back guy.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we did the Ken Dorsey thing.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Talk ourselves into why it's going to work, but in the back of your mind the whole time you're going through going, I still don't really believe this is going to work.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like to think it will.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then the straight shooter at the podium stuff, I've been questioning that for a while now.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just doesn't feel like it feels like he's full of shit.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you ask me.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_10]: I try to tell people, everybody's been everybody.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's like we're gonna be unleashed now because we have Todd Monk and I'm like guys, you just like him because he tells you what you want to hear because he, you know, he scoffs at Mary Kaye.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: So you love him, but the dudes of 60 year old first time head coach in the only team that would give him an opportunity was the team that nobody else wanted to come in coach.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: The chances that it was going to be good were a low, and then his postgame stuff like a little bit I did see, just kind of like, you know, I'm not going to give up.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_10]: We got a, he said, we got to play a better, got to call it better, it just, it's, that'll be a slogan.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_10]: We already, we already have a slogan.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_10]: Week one.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's the watch the tape.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's the, whatever Kevin used to say, it's the same thing Kevin used to say.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_10]: So it's, I just, I don't have high hopes there.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_10]: I was extremely disappointed in the defense.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: I thought the defense had a chance to still be.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: a high level defense like a top 10 top 12 defense they look like they might not they might be a bottom five defense if this and here the Jaguiers are good you know Washington is good They got weapons Trevor Lawrence ever since he got him he finally got a good coach He's starting to play like the guy everybody thought he was gonna be just took him a little bit of time to to get there but
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_10]: I mean we made a look like the like a 2018 Patriots or whatever whatever year they had Randy Moss and Tom Brady not like yeah 2008 Patriots like he could do no wrong it was I the only the only fast of this game that wasn't a complete joke was the special teams
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we put it well.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: We covered punts well.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: We didn't have to cover many kicks, but we covered them well.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_10]: We had good kick returns.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_10]: It was the only part of the game that we looked like an NFL team.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: How many times did they even plant today?
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Twice.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Twice, I think.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Really?
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: All of the second half, right?
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think one was like fourth quarter when they probably had Nick Mullins in there.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't last year, the defensive thing was forcing three and outs.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Remember that?
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, they were so good at that.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was telling Kenny before the show.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was Trevor Lawrence would drop back to throw.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, he's just whatever he wants to do.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: No pressure, we're getting no pressure.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then he throws it and the screen pans, the camera pans, oh, receivers, wide open in the middle of the zone, like just no problem.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we try to tackle slips of tackle, always picks up like five, 10 yards after the catch.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, we suck.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: We suck.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we try to tackle their running back.
• 26:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: All arm tackles.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, all arm tackles.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: Our defensive tackles got no push.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_11]: There was no collapse by the defensive ends.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: So it's basically sold out our secondary linebackers and have any movement except there were tackling guys 10 yards down the field.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, that's all that happened in the entire game.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I, you know, I think I've seen a couple comments here in the chat talking about like, you know, Quinn Sean Judd can just isn't him or whatever.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: guys I I said this before the game this week and I was talking to a bunch of people over the weekend here about this instead of if I'm the jakele hires I'm stacking the box I'm taking away the run game and I'm telling the browns go ahead let the Sean Watson beat us and that's what they did like you you're not gonna be able to run the first one the offensive line that was our biggest concern other than the quarterback and that looked
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we'll see, but when your defense knows, like, yeah, we're just stopping the run here, like, what else are you going to do?
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: I was okay with the offensive line, like we didn't get the push we wanted out for the run game.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I mean, the Jaguiers led the league last year in run defense.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think the average 84 yards a game.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: And we got it.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: What?
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: 87.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: That was right on the last year.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think of what?
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: They haven't allowed like a 75 yard rusher.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: forever, I forgot how long it's been a while.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, they have that street going.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: Now on the flip side, you talk about our past protection.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: It was sometimes, I mean, we had some holding penalties.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: The one thing is is your quarterback's got to negotiate that pocket, like we're talking about earlier.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: It was not their sidestep step up into the pocket, let it go.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: Don't don't look all panicked and then just fire something out to the flats, dirt it.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's where the game was lost.
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: We couldn't.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: We couldn't hit anything short medium or long for most of the game.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: What do we do?
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: We went three and out, three and out, then two and out.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, that's where our defense gets gasped and they couldn't do anything.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, so you got to score points.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: You got to move the ball.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's tough to have a run game too, and there's zero threat of a passing game.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's a Josh.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's all handed in, man.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: Zero threat of a passing game.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_10]: And again, we were spoiled.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_10]: We got to watch Prime Nick Chub.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: There's, you know, there's like one, there's one Nick Chub.
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's Quinceon Jenkins' Prime Nick Chub.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: No, I think he could be a very good running back.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: If we could just ever get competent quarterback play, this is what was telling about the preparation for me for the offense in general, or just the team in general.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: I believe they said Zion Johnson had three penalties all last season.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, two today, yep, this is like, so this guy was one that had to be one of the least penalized players and all the football last year comes to the Browns and gets two penalties right off the rip in week one and it's just like how prepared are we how disciplined that the guy stands up there talks about he doesn't want to see ship football and he wants we're going to be tough and blah, blah, blah, blah, but then this is the product.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's like all park no bite, like, you know, and what's crazy is then, like, as things are happening in the game, you're seeing people like Zac Jackson, Darrell, uh, Reuter talk, like, this is exactly how they looked in camp.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: We threw these bad interceptions.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_10]: We had delay, a delay of game in camp.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_10]: We had fall starts in camp, like the same stuff that happened two months ago in voluntary mini camp.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_10]: Just happened in week one.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: How prepared are we really?
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: How well, we're just not.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: So, and I told people like, the shit of like, like, the chest out, bravado, that only works if you win.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_10]: That shit was gonna get real old, real fast if we tried out a dog crap product and get beat 34 to 10.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_10]: Should've been 34 to 0.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like, it's already, I'm already, like, out.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_10]: I can be out on people and players early.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: I'm out because he blinks out.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and we were out on to Sean Watson long before, I mean, even was cleared to return to practice.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, a year ago or whatever, like when he went out in 2024, we were done with them.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause...
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's never been good and enough is enough and I don't know how much longer they're going to continue to do this obviously they're still going to start in next week at Tampa Bay and that's that's a big issue for me because you know we talk about how bad the defense struggle today and how bad the Sean Watson struggle today.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well next week is Tampa Bay who just lost today to Cincinnati and Baker Mayfield.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: they're not losing to the Browns at home and they're home about they're going to kill us and then we go to Cleveland to play the Panthers who just went toe to toe for the most part with the Chicago Bears to score like 52 points or something today.
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like and they they woke us in the preseason.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: They're deep.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: They're a good team.
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: We're not it.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be a rough stretch.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And do I think everything gets fixed the second, they make the switch to Shador?
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, because he's not playing defense, but if your offense can sustain a drive for more than a minute and maybe put up some points, maybe give your defense an opportunity to... To him a brace, something happened, yes.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or if they are able to make a stop or come up with a turn over, then maybe we can actually capitalize on it, but it's not going to happen with the Sean Watson, not gonna happen.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: at least be watchable.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they were watchable last year as soon as he came in, we didn't.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: We weren't fantastic.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: We want a couple more games and we thought we were going to.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: But we were watchable.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: The offense was actually something that was like, okay, I can endure this for a Sunday.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_10]: I got a comment here, the guy with the horrible hair in the middle is a two-hater on the low.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's talking about a competent QB, like Schdoors not there, act as this says SS don't exist.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_10]: I see you.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_10]: One, bro, I need a haircut, calm down.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_10]: I'm a busy person.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: I got two kids.
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_10]: too.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: What have I said?
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: How could I possibly be a shadorator at any part I spent 95% of this episode talking about how much I hate Sean Watson.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't understand how you could have taken anything I've said is hating on shador.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_10]: So, give me a break.
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_10]: But should we get to one more voice member before we go to break?
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we'll do one more.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, this one's from Connor.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: Sean Watson is the worst quarterback in the world.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_08]: I would rather
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_08]: anybody that has ever thrown a football for the syndrome.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_08]: Tim couch, I don't care.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: He can't look at reads.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_08]: You drop a linebacker in coverage.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_08]: And it's picked.
• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_08]: He's the worst quarterback in the world.
• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: The defense didn't help out any.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: And I'll admit that.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: But God, Lee.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_08]: I've never seen a worse quarterback.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_08]: We paid five years, 230 million dollars for this gentleman.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_08]: What are we doing?
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_08]: Cut it off, rip the bandit off.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_08]: I don't care what politics go into it, man.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_08]: Should there a kind of start?
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_08]: Cut a monkey is going to be a one and done.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_08]: And I like Todd monkey.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: I love Todd monkey.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_08]: Tell it how it is, but what is our men?
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_08]: If our owner has anything to do with this man, it's over.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_08]: Shoulder is deep.
• 33:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: quarterback this year.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if the Archbending didn't look good yesterday.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_08]: He also more looks like he's asked, what do we do guys?
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_08]: God, love you guys.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_08]: Anyway, go around.
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: What do we do guys?
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_10]: I felt that every part of that in my soul.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: He is unplayable.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_10]: Got the Tampa Bay, if we thought today was bad,
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_10]: Baker thrives in like the chip on his shoulder.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I talked about this before.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's going to carry Bertier pointing at the other coaches sidelines after after every play.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's going to throw for 600 yards and 17 touchdowns against this next week.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_10]: And then he's just going to like just throw balls at our players on the sidelines.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's going to be, it's going to be so bad next week.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_10]: because you know he's going to have them fired up.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: You know they're going to want to play for him.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_10]: They are not going to want to start Owen too.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_10]: After losing to Cincinnati, the way they did like, it is, I, the spread will probably, the spread could possibly be double digits next week, and I'm still taking the bucket ears.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, oh, dude, absolutely.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: And the biggest thing about the buck and ears and Baker Mayfield is that most of our fans still love Baker Mayfield.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: And they like him better than they like the quarterback that we have now.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: Maybe all the quarterbacks other than Shidorr, right?
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like that's the way that's the concept right now of the Browns, like the quarterbacks of left, they like them better than what we have now, I guess bizarre.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's a bizarre thing to be in.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: The same thing's kind of happening with the coach now, right?
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because yeah, yeah, the league's already said on this show.
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it wasn't great with Kevin.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was pretty bad.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's now worse.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: It looked we're we're supposedly better this year.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_10]: We have better the the Browns have war talent today.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_10]: When they did it any point the last two seasons.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: and we looked much worse today than almost at any point we did the last two seasons.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_10]: So take that for what you will.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: One more last comment before we get to our first break.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: Nobody on this panel of myth that Shador should be the starting QB next game.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: Just say you haven't been paying attention.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_10]: Just say that you don't pay attention and just go away.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Should there be a solution today to start the season?
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: The shot never should have stepped foot on the field ever again.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's just somebody tuning in and doesn't even watch the show because they would know if they watch the show at all they would know that.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yep.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
• 36:30
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• 36:31
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• 36:31
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• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Alright, next one here, we'll we get from Adam here in El Paso, games over finally, that might be the longest Browns game I've ever watched in my life.
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not gonna lie, man, I'm trying to find any positives.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Got Denzel Boston with a garbage time touched down, other than that, like whatever that was on the field, just abysmal.
• 39:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Not even like in a resemblance of an NFL football team.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm the honest man, like, playing like that, I don't think we could win a football game this year.
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I know that the Jaguars have a pretty formidable defense.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're gonna be a good team this year, but like, dude, this was, this was pitiful.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: The only positive things I saw happening were in the first drive, which we all know.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: First 15 plays are pretty scripted.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was the only positive thing.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: I saw until Watson threw a pick.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: So my question is like, I know leading up to this season.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: We talked about like the hope of Watson being out by week three for the first home game.
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like Watson's going to start a formidable amount of games.
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's be honest, boys.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we just watched.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: whether it's Jimmy Hazelm making the call Todd whoever the fact is Helen Keller could see that this dude is not an NFL quarterback and we have no chance with him behind center.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: What do you guys think?
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no chance.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: If Deshron Watson starts a game we lose that game.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you guys like it's and it's so tough trying to do
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: this podcast leading up to the season and try to infuse the optimism and the hope of hey we got a new brown season here we got these new pieces new coaching new scheme new all this and that but you know to Sean Watson's the quarterback and it's like I don't want to go too far off the other side of just being down on this team but I can't at any point predict them the win a game if you're starting a quarterback.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: that that include explosives and everybody's like, well, what about the quarterback?
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, hopefully he won't be here.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: We have another quarterback that we don't want to.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_10]: We might be lucky to get a tough four wins.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: My favorite comment so far says a new was going to be a long season, but man, I thought they'd be more competitive.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_10]: Look, like they don't even practice, just sit around all day drinking beer and smoking cigarettes.
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's my favorite comment.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: I've ever gotten money here.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_10]: Just ripping six.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_10]: That was awesome.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: So do you really think to Sean will get the pull before the home game?
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like if he's if he's just as bad because if he's if they pull him after two games, why did they even waste two games?
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like you have to think they
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: But again, I would like to say that they would have some kind of self-awareness to if he's if we're Owen to and he's played like that two weeks in a row that they can't try them out week three at home.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: But they will because they have zero self-awareness.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's like the most un-self-aware football team in franchise and any sports ever.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: They will try them out there and it'll be dangerous.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_10]: hyperbolic when I say it will be a scene like we've never seen before.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_10]: I think it'll feel like LeBron's first game back in Cleveland with Miami.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 42:28
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's going to be for our own quarterback.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's not all the other team is going to be for the guy on our own team.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know if anybody that's ever happened before in the history of any sport.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_10]: For somebody on your own team to get treated that way and he mentally cannot handle that.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: If he throws a pick or something on the on the first drive in week three and Their bottles being thrown on the field and the booze are raining down.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, they're gonna be raining down From the get but if it's shouldn't he does something less than standard.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's gonna get so ugly.
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_10]: He might just leave
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_10]: He might pull an Antonio Brown, you'd just see him like hopping without shoulder pads through the the end zone right into the tunnel because he can't he mentally can't handle that.
• 43:16
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's still talking about it.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_10]: I got 17 road games, blah, blah, blah, blah, yes, you know why everybody dislikes you being on this football team because we mortgage the entire franchise for you and you have been terrible.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: V. Worst quarterback in the league.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: Dude, they did it to Baker Mayfield.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: I was at the Browns Lions game when he played.
• 43:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: He shouldn't have played.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: We almost lost to them.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: Case Kim could easily play that game.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: They booed Baker right off the field.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: They booed him so bad that he changed in life.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: He didn't even take his pressers that day.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know if you guys remember that.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: And this is like 10 times worse.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: This is 10.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's.
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be fine.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then, okay, so the thing that gets me with the Sean Watson is he's, he has no, like you talk about the Browns having no self awareness.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Sean Watson has no self awareness.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: To Sean Watson stood in front of the media today after the game and they asked him about, you know, what was your confident shake and after that first interception.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, ah, bad place happened all the time.
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look around the league.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: All every quarter back throws and receptions.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Every quarter back has bad plays like quit making excuses.
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: you know, and trying to shove like you sucked today.
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no ownership of my play was a bismal today.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was awful.
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not everybody plays back.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Come on, give me a break here.
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then he was about that interception.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was saying, oh yeah, you know, my footing got a little off the platform.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought I thought I had enough air to get it over the linebacker.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But apparently I didn't.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you didn't even see the linebacker.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: You lying sack of garbage.
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like,
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Who does he think he's kidding?
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_10]: He is, he never takes accountability.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: And that's part of why the Browns fans despise him so much.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like he never wants just like stands up there and says, like, oh, sorry, I've sucked, you know?
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's like, why aren't you cheering for me hard or for coming back from injury?
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_10]: And you're like every player who's ever gotten hurt has then come back and if they didn't retire, they then came back from an injury.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: give me a break dude.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's terrible.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I did just see a comment flew through here too.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted to say this said, I just learned that QBR is not a real stat.
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you guys want to understand QBR, all you got to know is today, Deshawn Watson, QBR was like 20 points higher than Shador Sanders last year against the Raiders.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, probably because the garbage like the garbage time throws.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they're like, well, to be such a great evaluator of quarterback play.
• 45:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, garbage.
• 45:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: You've got more voice males.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: We absolutely have more voice males.
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just lost my screen.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hang on a second.
• 46:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where'd it go?
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, guys.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here we go.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I got that.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is Devon's out here.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Browns literally just got the birth point.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, there's 20, 26 season.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was in church to wrap it up, you don't face what church to check something, put a church.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll see the post from you guys, as said Deshawn walks into sucks, I automatically know what to turn over.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, ever see what happened, just why, has them screw this team over so much about putting in somebody who didn't play in a
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: see Watson's previous play.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's getting the food experience right now.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: At this point, Siddishan Watson for the rest of the year, pay him to go the hell away, start Sanders, start green, start dealing Gabriel, although he might end up in the land, because the land has like no quarterbacks of his high school per Rush, and somebody else that they got.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, just end this suffering for us now, please.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, hey, man, and the suffering for Deshawn and the suffering for the team, like just rip that banded off.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_10]: If he's smart, he'd fake an injury.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think it's some point there is going to be an injury and that's I don't think they can bench him.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if there's like some sort of contractual thing written that nobody knows about except for them, but I think they can actually bench him.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think there is that's why he's
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's it's it's there's no there's just no way you watched him play today and thought that any quarterback on our roster would be worse There's no way should there would be worse.
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_10]: No, I'm absolutely not.
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_10]: I I would there's there's no way What he would have thrown more interceptions would have fumbled more times would have had more delay games scored less points than Yes, I did just yeah the score negative points.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_10]: I just there's no way just put him in what I don't
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_10]: I just don't understand, and at least, even if you put them in, and he's awful.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: at least you'll have the fanbase back on your side a little bit.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_10]: You cannot be fun to know that your entire fanbase despises you as you're trying to show for new PSLs and tickets for a new stadium that's going to open up in two and a half years.
• 48:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like it's not going to be fun for you if you're in the Browns front office or owner to sit there in week three and that's going to be on TV.
• 48:35
  [SPEAKER_10]: people are going to see that or like you know on the entire eastern coast of the United States there that the home team is playing in in just absolutely abusive environment like that camp that's that can be fun so what are we doing at least if you put your door in and he doesn't play well like you'll still the fans will be engaged they'll be locked in they'll be ready like
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: But what are we doing?
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's let's remember, too.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they do that and they start to show them Watson, week three in front of the home crowd, week four is Thursday night, four days later.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And front of the entire country, solo island game.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think they're going to have make a quarterback switch with two days of prep in there?
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's to show them what if he does the home opener.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's getting Thursday night as well.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be bad.
• 49:27
  [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't even realize like that Panthers team the offense looked pretty good today.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: If the defense, if I know I'm skipping ahead, but I'm just talking about our first home game, we might give up 60.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not good, man.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me do this voicemail from Davy Dog.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: All I got to say is to Sean Watson played like shit.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'd seen seven year olds throw better than him.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: I thought they were going to bring in Sidor or even green.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: But no, they didn't.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: They just kept him in the whole time.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: You guys can bring up the stats all you want.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: But I seen that the accuracy was trash trash.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: And this is my first time calling by the way.
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Good dogs.
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: I love the podcast and everything.
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I hope this makes it.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bye bye.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, the stats before garbage time to Sean Watson was 11 of 17 for 100 yards, no touchdowns, and an interception.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a BISMO before garbage time.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: I think we talked about this a few weeks ago.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_10]: This dude has a Cleveland Browns quarterback has struggled to get to 200 yards passing.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: This is a passing lead.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_10]: The time.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_10]: Trevor Lawrence might have had 200 yards in the first quarter today.
• 50:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he can barely, like a solid game for Deshan as a Brown so far has been like 175 yards and attached to him.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's been like what we can expect from him.
• 50:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's a half for a good quarterback.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_10]: it.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: We're just going to circles, but like this.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I can't understand like being the hazards, you're watching these games.
• 51:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: You pay money.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: They're paying money to go to the games.
• 51:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know if you know this.
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: I want us to have to buy boxes at the game to go to the actual game.
• 51:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, and like, I know they got a ton of money, but they're watching this game like we are.
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: They can't
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: having a good time.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, it's not selling them any money.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, for their, like we said for the new stadium.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, so what does anybody get out of this?
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: The fans aren't happy.
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: They're not making money.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, maybe they're still collecting something from Shodorgers.
• 51:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's, you know, so who gets anything out of this?
• 51:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then something else, Davey said there too.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Kenny, I was telling you this before the show.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: like I was I was kind of getting upset thinking about if they put Shador Sanders in this game.
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be kind of pissed because you have the Sean Watson be your starter.
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: You named him your starter.
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You said he's your best chance to move the ball and score points and then you sit there and you take your lumps with him.
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't bail out and push it.
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm glad they didn't put Shador into this game because that's not fair to him to come into a 34 to three game.
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like no, you make the Sean Watson go out there
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_10]: Make him finish it out.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, exactly.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Make him finish it.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Make him finish some of this conference route.
• 52:17
  [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, man, uh, the end of the bucks in the Brown to don't care.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_10]: Uh, any more, any more voicemails?
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Got three more.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: This one's from Jersey.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's everybody.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jersey just in chime in in here.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, we're only in a second quarter.
• 52:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sean is literally showing us everything we thought he was absolutely horrible.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, 17 nothing here.
• 52:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Are you kidding me?
• 52:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, are you kidding me?
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely insane.
• 52:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: And on top of that, like KC conception, I know there were some people in here that like were pound in the table for him.
• 52:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, our worst fear of what he was going to do, not being able to hold on to the ball.
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, there we go.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: We already seen what he's going to be doing.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: Probably all season to hold on to the ball, man.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I personally was higher on Denzel Boston, but unbelievable.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hold on to the ball.
• 53:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Ridiculous.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely ridiculous.
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, let's do happens.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go Browns.
• 53:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: The KC thing.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, that sucks.
• 53:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a he's a rookie in his first game and he was trying to make a play because like any of these guys, it's like, well, we suck.
• 53:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got to try to make
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just went along with the game.
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: It just to me, it was just like more of a lack of discipline thing.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like the whole team.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like buddy.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: We just looked as we beat a dead horse at the quarterback position, but it was everywhere.
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_10]: Other than special teams, this was the most, this was the most poorly coached we've looked.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_10]: And since Freddie Kitchen's was here.
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_10]: Freddie Kitchen.
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we looked.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, whatever side of all you want to talk about.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: unprepared, undisciplined, lost.
• 53:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: We didn't play with any heart.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_10]: There was like no attitude.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_10]: There was nothing.
• 54:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: I didn't see it.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_10]: It was tens of ward out there.
• 54:07
  [SPEAKER_10]: You know, like, I didn't even see people.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's like they were just going through the motions.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_10]: It was like watching a scrimmage.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was a point like Jared verse, you know, obviously with the whole Miles Garrett trade.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we didn't really talk about it.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Miles Garrett just got put on IR for the ramps today with it had a knee scope or whatever done.
• 54:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then it was like, OK, well, my mom's Garrett went out in his first game with the Rams and posted all goose eggs, man, zeros across the board did nothing.
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: No pressures.
• 54:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: No nothing.
• 54:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: First time since 2018, it's like, man, Jared versus going to come out here and dominate in this Jaguar's game and show that this trade was a huge win for the Browns.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then he came out and did freaking nothing.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: The only, I mean, Mason Graham had a sack today, and it was his first full career sack.
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the number five overall pick from a year ago played all season last year, and just now today gets his first full sack.
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, at least that happened.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Carson Swesinger had 10 tackles.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's back in double digits, like, that's good.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think coverage issues, like,
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, Tyson Campbell looked to me like he was struggling a little bit today, but I didn't they play like 67% zone I read and last year We found that Tyson Campbell was so good because they played so much man and he was so Yes, that's true That's true.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then they'll so good at tensel is a like a man to man quarter That's what he saw with the zone today the J. Yars beat it every time every time they were beaten that zone They were wide open in the middle.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're just catching everything then they just turn it up for more yards and it's like Maybe don't do that.
• 55:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe let's adjust.
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't adjust all day
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: All right, I think we got two more.
• 55:46
  [SPEAKER_10]: We're going to go about 10 minutes.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: We can eight minutes.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, two more.
• 55:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Here's the Andy in North Can.
• 55:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look everybody.
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: We all knew that the offense is going to look bad because Sean Watson was going to play.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's not a surprise.
• 55:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Anyone with shocks me the most and well, it's the most just surprising is the defense.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: It looked like they had no idea what to do at any point today.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Mason Graham, he looked good.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Other than that, I mean, what player can you point to and say, yeah, that guy earned a check today.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that's it.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good point.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: All the all four captains look like garbage to Sean look like garbage.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Zion had the holding penalties Mason Graham played it.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm Tyson Campbell.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever didn't do very well with the zone.
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I mean our defense wasn't beating up on our offense.
• 56:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what basically hit you know what I mean.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: They true.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's why our defense looks so good and can't they got to go against that offense Yeah, yeah, I don't they got to go they got to go against the Sean like we said a million times overman This is what you're gonna get and that's what we got so
• 56:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, last one here from Aaron.
• 56:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even in Gents, it goes about saying that tonight's performance was absolutely diabolical, but one thing I wanted to flag up was the luck of Harold Farron, and obviously there were loads of me knows I absolutely love him, but I just don't think to show him what's going to get anything out of Harold Farron.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'd look like he mentioned or had a really, really nice connection last year, and not being able to get the ball to him, I think, to an absolute trustee for us, and we need to get the ball to him.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: to make it across the middle, get those sort of short, short of your little passes of stuff.
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, basically discuss, is it going to work to show how fun or is it better off just trying different things if if the show's obviously going to play which it looks like is, is there even a point of fun at this point?
• 57:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing's going to work.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Aaron.
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: So he had this problem.
• 57:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: He had this problem with David and the joke who and then Flacco came back and the joke who went off, right?
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: Doesn't find the tight end for whatever reason.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: We've said, I've said it a number of times on this podcast.
• 57:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: They just don't connect.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: They don't look good in training camp.
• 57:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: They haven't looked good in the preseason.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's not going to find them for whatever reason.
• 57:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's not good at hitting the tight end.
• 57:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: And that's just the way it is until we don't have him on this offense.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: Then that's we don't have to show him Watson on this offense anymore.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: Then when we get Shidorah, he'll find the tight end, you'll get the ball deep down, you'll hit the flats, you know, and he might need a little bit of work in the intermediate game, but we need Shidorah sooner than later, man, because I don't know how much my members want to watch this anymore.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: And my members, meaning my chapter members and my browns backers, I'm going to be sitting by myself next week.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: You will never maximize the potential of any of these players on offense with the Sean Watson at quarterback.
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: the only quarterback on our roster who could possibly get these guys to their potential or anywhere closest should or Sanders.
• 58:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: We saw it last year.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he had gauge larva Dan and I was rookie Isaiah bond two UDFAs by the way.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Isaiah bond had no training camp, no preseason.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: He had those guys looking like competent NFL wide receivers at times as a rookie.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So the longer we wait, just the worse it's gonna get.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: I want to see Bond.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: I want to see him get open down the field, you know, like to use them at all.
• 59:06
  [SPEAKER_10]: I really hope we at least get this because I'm just rooting for chaos at this point.
• 59:11
  [SPEAKER_10]: I want to see week three to Sean start.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was going to say at least at least week two, so it's Baker versus Sean because that whole thing.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, I want to do it.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got to go to the game in week three.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to see to Sean Watson.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_10]: You'll get to be a part of it then.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: You'll get to be a part of history.
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_10]: I want to see it because in my head I'm imagining like
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: What is going to be like?
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking of letting other people on the field.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: Buyers, explosions, my bodies, you know?
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it will be like eating in the dark night.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, that's what I'm expecting.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm very, I want to at least see that.
• 59:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: Then after that, we can start Shador Thursday night.
• 59:55
  [SPEAKER_10]: Biggest against the Steelers.
• 59:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think they would make a switch on a short week.
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's my, no, let me, probably not.
• 1:00:03
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's hard to read.
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_10]: They'll make a switch in within a month anyways.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_10]: And because if they make the switch after two weeks, you're basically saying, we, we, whoops.
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_10]: We screwed up so bad.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_10]: Sorry guys, there's, we did not think you're, you're meeting that you, you're basically a meeting of no idea what you're looking at.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_10]: If you switch them after two weeks.
• 1:00:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yep.
• 1:00:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: And I start going to do that.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, you're right because this is the one thing about this organization is they are stubborn they are stuck in their ways to be idiots about stuff and This is just more of it.
• 1:00:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, Logan's quick saying here, he said, everybody's blaming about him, which is fair, right?
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: Munkin basically sets the game, but, you know, the commentators pointed out, I've not watched the tape yet.
• 1:00:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: There's guys open.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, but we set this to fanski too, you know, it's with the Sean Awards.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's the same thing.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: There are guys open, but we got to get another quarterback in there, you know, so they don't seem to want to move
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody on the lake, maybe Deshawn was just bad with Kevin Train?
• 1:01:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: See ya.
• 1:01:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: How do you guys feel now?
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's Deshawn Watson.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not the coaching.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: There were guys wide open and Kevin scheme.
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: There were guys wide open today.
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you're right.
• 1:01:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: They would show on the replay like he could hit fan in here.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: He could hit this guy.
• 1:01:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: This guy was open.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: If he would just stepped up in the pocket.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, because he freaking panics.
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he sucks.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a, I don't know if this is politically correct.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say he's a mental midget.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: You were going to say you or you want to end that it.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: So I was going to know, I was going to say I didn't say it.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's what I was going to say.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I knew I knew exactly what you were going to say.
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, he's going to say mental midget.
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_10]: He's a, he's a mental Eugene.
• 1:01:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is very weak.
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is very mentally weak for sure.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no doubt it.
• 1:01:55
  [SPEAKER_10]: So well, well, we're going to wrap it up.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: That was all the voicemails, right?
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_10]: I want to make sure we got to all of them.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's everybody.
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you guys for calling in.
• 1:02:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: We love hearing from you and Hang with us.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's only week one guys.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: We got 16 more of these to do big shout out to Aaron too.
• 1:02:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think it was his birthday yesterday.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: So shout out to Aaron Watts.
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: Thanks for calling, brother.
• 1:02:14
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I appreciate it very tuned in.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_10]: Don't check out after week one because it's fun just to watch to see how bad it will be.
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_10]: That's what I did then.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_10]: I wasn't depressed at all.
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_10]: I just thought, I was like, that every time you make a mistake, I was just kind of chuckle.
• 1:02:28
  [SPEAKER_10]: I was just watching for the fun of it at that point.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_10]: The biggest thing for me is
• 1:02:34
  [SPEAKER_10]: I watched this team be not having much talent for the last two years, but they still fought.
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_10]: And I watched a team that supposedly has a lot more talent this year, just be weak from the get go.
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: That was the most disappointing thing to me.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like it was supposed to be the coaching changes supposed to be like a difference maker.
• 1:02:52
  [SPEAKER_10]: Even Jimmy has them said, what's the over?
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_10]: I take the over.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_10]: They're only saying five games.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
• 1:02:58
  [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
• 1:02:58
  [SPEAKER_10]: Well, what I saw today, Owen's 16th is on the table.
• 1:03:02
  [SPEAKER_10]: Owen's 17th on the table.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yep.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's on the table.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: So that's the most disappointing thing to me.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_10]: Like, we were supposed to be more talented and we didn't.
• 1:03:11
  [SPEAKER_10]: We should know fight, know heart, no excitement, no energy, nothing.
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_10]: We just drew to look like Dwayne Bowson on the sideline.
• 1:03:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: He has been just seen.
• 1:03:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_10]: Um, so, but we'll see what we'll, I'm expecting, um, more of the same.
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: So, but stay tuned.
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_10]: We appreciate you guys being here, making these episodes fun.
• 1:03:35
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• 1:03:42
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• 1:03:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: So, again, we appreciate you being here, and that will see you guys next week for some time later this week.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_10]: Let's go, Bryce.
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