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Getting Animated: Firefly Animated Series & Buffy Reboot Scrapped · Multiple Nerdgasm

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Welcome to multiple Nerdgasm, a comedy show about all things
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nerdy. I finished watching the bunnies
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win. It was a very tough game.
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Bunnies versus the turtles. Versus the Tigers.
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The Tigers. So Bunny beating a tiger, That's
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pretty something to write home about.
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Did anybody get eaten? No.
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No. But some of the tigers got hurt
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and it's never good to see when they'll be out for some time.
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But also made me. Realize it got hurt?
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See. That's counterintuitive.
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But it's also made me realize how much damage I've done to my
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ankle. Well, you were playing, were
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you? No, I wasn't playing, but
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they've been talking about like doing your ATL and stuff and
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that could take you out for six months and things.
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Yes. Oh, I've actually really damaged
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myself. You've done that and just not
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just shrugged it off. Yeah, yeah, but no, I'm quite
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happy with the bunnies. We've got the highest Sky try
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scorer ever, right, Which beat a record that has been around for
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many, many years and no one thought anyone would ever beat
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it. Is that like per game or just in
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his life? In his life.
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Fuck all right, How many has he scored?
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214 now I think. OK, I mean, it sounds alike a
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lot. I don't watch.
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Football since I was a kid, or should say rugby league.
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Do they call it rugby league now?
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No. It's still.
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Footy, Yeah, yeah, but the official name is Rugby The.
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Official name is rugby league. Yeah, we call it the footy,
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yeah. No, no.
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And then AFL fans call their game the footy.
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Yeah, Yes, we do. Yeah, I haven't watched the AFL
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actually. Every year I pay for the the
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thing to watch it overseas, which is I think 150 bucks.
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And then we, yeah, it's on, it's on it like stupid clock and then
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we have a child and we're busy and then we don't watch it.
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And then every year I go, why am I spending the money on this?
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I'll just. Because you might watch it.
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I can, we can there's ways to watch them for free if we get
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the time to watch them. So I'll just figure that out
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you. Know, they're not quite legal
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ways, but there's ways. Oh.
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You can VPN, they just put them up on the AFL website if you're
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in Australia, which I can be. Yeah, well, the same way it
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depends on. Not all games are though.
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I don't know if they feel you know.
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What I don't, I don't know for sure.
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With rugby league they have certain games that are like
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every game, like Friday night game and the Sunday game, but on
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Saturday none of them are on free to air.
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Oh, OK. You got to pay.
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Pay for Yeah, there's an elephant in the room with us,
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where it's an elephant shaped like a spaceship speaking,
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shaped like a Firefly. I am.
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I'm going to be honest, I'm pissed off as I said I would be.
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OK, yeah, that's fair. All right.
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Explain. OK, so hang on, let's clarify
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for anybody who who for some reason has stumbled onto this
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and doesn't know what the fuck we're talking about.
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Yeah. So Nathan filling in has been
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going around, started a podcast, has been going around to the
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other actors from Firefly going making little skits and they're
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going. Is it time?
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Yes, it's time. And I said if he announced
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anything other than a live action thing, I was going to be
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upset. So if the comic book, animated
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series, anything like that. And what did he announce, Matt?
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They've announced Firefly will continue Season 2 as an animated
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series. Yeah, well.
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Maybe. It, it might continue.
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I should clarify that actually there's been some
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miscommunication about that too, I think.
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I think yes. Yeah, so he got.
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Evidently they got permission or well wishes from Joss Whedon.
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Who? Yes, but who is not involved?
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For obvious reasons, they do not want him involved, but they
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probably want him involved. But he shouldn't be involved.
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Disney, who owned the license, have agreed to it.
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They're not going to put any money behind it.
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Apparently not, no, but they've said you can do it if you want
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to. Yeah, if you can find someone to
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pay for it. Yes.
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And I think that's a lot of what the hype was to try and show
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that, hey, there isn't interest in it and I would watch it.
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I will watch it if it does come out.
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Yeah, but they've got everything's lined up.
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They've got all the caster involved, the ones who are still
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alive, all of the They've got a animation studio ready to go,
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even the. Writers are a married couple who
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met on Firefly, so it's all. Very like, yeah, so apparently
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everything's ready, except no one's picked it up yet.
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And he's got a Nathan Fillion's got to go pitch it to studios to
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some, like someone's got to pay for it.
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That's the that's the the crux of it.
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And yes. So which is not a minor hurdle
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because as we've seen this week with the Buffy news, even if you
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get someone to pay for a pilot, that doesn't mean anything.
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No. So although an animated series
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is different. It's, I think it should be.
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I think it's 'cause and it can work around 'cause you don't
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need all the actors in one spot at one time.
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They can record their stuff whenever and not.
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Only that I mean, I mean, we could kind of tie this in, I
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suppose, because it's very related.
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OK, so the Buffy reboot is not happening.
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No, which I'm a bit sad about 'cause I was starting to get
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excited for that. Yeah, yeah, me too.
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But then there's stuff coming out now about like maybe it
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wasn't actually very good and that's why they going ahead with
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it. Like the scripts leaked,
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although and then Sarah Michelle Gellar was like, oh, don't read
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those scripts. They're not the final scripts.
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And also, if the even if the pilot leaks, don't watch the
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pilot because the pilot is not the show.
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It's not. We didn't do a season.
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We just made a pilot to kind of give A and it's like, but you
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were trying to pitch it to a studio.
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Like, surely this pilot is supposed to represent what it.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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So you're saying you're telling the audience shouldn't watch it
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because it's not very good? Like I'm just I I understand
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she's passionate about it but I'm confused about why she
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wouldn't want people to see it. Yeah, it was like, you'd be
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good. But a lot of times you hear
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actors talk about we made this pilot and I wish I had a con
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somewhere. Yeah.
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No, I mean pilot and no, you don't wanna watch that.
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Yeah. What would it be Good Sarah?
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What's the why can't we watch it if it leaks?
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But anyway, so and the difference with this too is that
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the Buffy reboot doesn't did not have anybody except Sarah
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Michelle Gellar. And apparently, according to the
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leak script, she's not she wasn't in it very much anyway.
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It was like, that's. Going to be like the terrible
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thing. Like remember there was a like a
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last season of scrubs. Yes.
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And it was all different how Zach Braff or anyone you know,
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they made, they made an appearance, but it wasn't about
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them. And everyone went wild.
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No, no, that's, that's what they said.
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And and apparently the, the, the feedback from the studio on the
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script at first was you've, you've aimed this too young.
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The people who will watch this are older.
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You need to to to direct it at those people.
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Apparently that's the studio feedback.
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And then they made the pilot and then the studio apparently again
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said no. Again, you've you've targeting
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seemingly the wrong people, aged it up and then they went, you
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know, actually don't worry about.
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It yeah, we'll spend too much money on this and you're not
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getting the hint that your audience is.
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Your audience is in their 40s now.
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Yeah, yeah. Unless they were like, oh, we
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want to target young people and it's like.
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I mean young people, the only young people who will enjoy it
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are the ones whose parents have shown it to them and.
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Yeah. Enjoyed it with them and even
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those children are going to be grown up now as well.
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And I think, I don't know, I, I wonder, like if you showed a
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modern teen like somebody who was somebody the age we were
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when we watched Buffy in the 90s, would they like it?
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No, God, no. It's pretty janky but like.
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Especially like season 1. Right.
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But yeah, but, but all shows were then, and it had like
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cultural influence in a way that, like now I don't know that
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it would because the culture's changed so much.
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So I like the whole thing about aiming at the older people.
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Would you then alienate younger the younger audience?
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Because you do want the younger audience?
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I. Think there's a way you you
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could do it? Yeah.
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You probably need to realise like you want.
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What we want is just a a show about Giles.
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Yeah. Oh fuck yeah.
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That's what we want. Get Anthony Stewart head back,
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Yeah. Yeah, and about Stewart?
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Head. Why do I say it like that?
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It's Anthony Stewart Head. Head.
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I call him Anthony Stewart Head. Like Stewart, Head is one word,
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anyway. Whatever.
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But like, I'd like to see a show about that, about the sort of
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what he's going through. Yeah, the watches and then still
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have like your Scooby gang or whatever they're gonna call him
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as still there, but more of him going.
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What the fuck are they doing now?
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Yeah, I mean, I would watch it, but but Firefly has something
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that like the Buffy Ruby doesn't, which is it's got all
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the original cast. It's got every.
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It's basically it. It's except for the Shepherd.
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I can't remember the actor's name.
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Yeah, he he, he died. In my life 2016 I.
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Think so. They don't have him, but they've
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got everybody else, so it literally could be.
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In theory I could. Oh yeah.
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So it's set between season 1, which got cut short, and
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Serenity. So Wash is still alive.
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And if you look at Serenity, Serenity, you could see there's
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a lot of stuff that Serenity Saul spoke about, hinted at.
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And you go, he had a lot of stuff planned out that was going
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to lead up to that. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's such a bummer that I mean, we don't have to litigate
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this. We've been talking about this
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for what, 20 years now? It got canned for no, like no
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good reason. And they talk about on the
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podcast about how they, I think they said that they think they
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know who the executive is, the person who made the call to
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cancel the show. But apparently nobody owns up to
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it because it is broadly considered to have been a stupid
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decision because the show was clearly good.
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And it makes no sense. Like Josh Whedon, who at the
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time everyone loved. Was not just at the time we
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weren't aware that he was touching anybody.
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We weren't aware that he wasn't allowed in a room with some
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young girls. Exactly.
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We didn't know, didn't know any of that.
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We just liked his shows. He had three very successful
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shows back-to-back and then he comes out with this and they go
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now, now we're gonna change the revenue.
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He Dollhouse. Dollhouse was successful.
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It wasn't. Like Dollhouse was 4 Firefly,
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wasn't it? Was it?
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I think it's a question. You might, you might be right.
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Dollhouse before Firefly can't type listeners, you'll be
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shooting your part of the foxes. Dollhouse 2008.
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No, I think. No, no.
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Tough Goodness me, Dollhouse. Not to confuse Dollhouse.
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Dollhouse was come on, what year?
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Yeah, 2009 and then Firefly TV series 2002.
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So. For some reason in my head,
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Dollhouse was before Firefly. Yeah, No, no, no, like actually.
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And it makes sense because Alan Tudic is in Dollhouse.
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Yes, so and that was later, but but yes, you're right.
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And he's gone. So he had a six, two successful
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shows before that and then one afterwards.
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And then what else did he do after that?
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There's another just Whedon show after that, right?
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What am I am I not thinking of? Show I know he went off do like
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Marvel movies. Yeah, and the comments he did a.
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Lot of did he do ADC movie? Did he do that?
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He did. The agents.
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Oh, Doctor, horrible. Fuck, I forgot about that.
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Well yeah, Doctor Horrible was done during the writers strike.
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Yes. That's right.
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So he went out and went like, we're just going to make
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something for fun and show that you don't need.
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Yeah, big productions. OK, Dollhouse is the last big TV
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show he did. OK, looks like, Oh, the Nevers.
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So that's the one I'm thinking about.
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The Nevers, which I guess was not that successful.
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No, but look, he came off like 2 very successful TV shows that
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made people a lot of money and then he'd let him make 14
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episodes, release him out of order and then cancel it like.
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Yeah, nuts, but they to the end. OK, yeah, I know you are upset
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that it's animated and. They said I would be.
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In a way, but I mean, it does make sense because they're 20
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years older now, so the only way they can go back and do it
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before Serenity is to not physically be in it because
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nectophilia just doesn't look like that anymore.
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Well. Even summer glow.
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Right. They'll just they look diff.
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They're older, they look different.
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Except the doctor, actually, he looks exactly the same.
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Yeah. But yeah, like they've aged.
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It's been a long time. Like 2002?
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That's what, 24 years ago? Yeah, yeah, it's ridiculous.
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So I think I just. Got my hopes up that.
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Yeah, and because it it means Wash can be alive, they can.
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They can just pop the story, you know, continue season 1 where it
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left off and they can if they want to.
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They don't have to, but they could have someone else do the
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voice of. Do the voice shepherd.
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Yeah, Shepherd. So he could also be in it if
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they wanted. To and I also like the fact that
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like even though Shepherd, I would have loved to have known
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what his story was, even in Serenity, they basically went
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not you never had to worry about it.
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Yeah. So yeah, they're not going to.
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Well, Serenity had the I know Serene is different, right?
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People talk about how the tone of it's different and it kind of
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it, but it it had to do a different job because it was a
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movie and you had to like people who had not watched the show go
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see movies. And so it kind of like it was
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like a weird thing where it's it's wrapping up this TV show
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that we all were familiar with, but also they had to be
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watchable by people who just wanted to go to the movies and
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see a science fiction adventure and didn't give a shit about.
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Any of this. They had a TV show, lots of
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stuff to try and close off a story that.
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Yeah, but also not overload. Overload don't give a shit
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because they didn't watch the TV show, they just want to watch a
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movie. Yeah, and going out and seeing a
15:37
movie and that's it. Yeah, so I can understand.
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That my God. Christina Hendricks was hot in
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it, though, and. 55 yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not going to argue
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with that. So yes, it's maybe.
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Happening. Oh, interesting to see if
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Christina Hendricks comes back in it.
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That would be interesting, yeah, because.
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Her character was sort of like a reoccurring actually right
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there, not not. I'm going to Did you look at
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this? This is, I thought this was very
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interesting three years ago on Reddit, there's a there's a
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Reddit subreddit called Leaks and Rumours where people, I
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guess, post stuff from studios that hasn't been announced or
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released yet. And three years ago, somebody
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posted unannounced Shadow Machine production.
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Shadow Machine is the animation studio that's lined up to do
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this Firefly series. Three years ago somebody posted
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these, I guess I don't know, they're concept arts or, or like
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animation stills or whatever that, you know, I think it's
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concept art, yeah. And it's Firefly.
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It is the Firefly animated series.
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Three years ago. A little scary that three years
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ago they've been trying to get this.
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They've been working. On this running.
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Yes. I know.
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And they still don't have anyone going.
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Yeah, they're going to pay for this.
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Yeah. Slightly concerning, the reason
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I segued specifically is if you look at the second page of art,
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there is on the top right a red headed lady.
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So I don't know if that's her or somebody else, but there is a
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red headed lady. Maybe that's her.
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And it wouldn't make sense for her to come back because I think
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she was leaning up to be that sort of recurring.
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Yeah. Oh yeah.
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Incurring characters like she is definitely.
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I would say so. Yeah.
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I, I, I mean, I'm excited about it, but so the reason for all
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the hype, yeah. And I know that the hype, you're
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not the only person who was annoyed that it wasn't literally
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a live action Firefly continuation.
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But and, and I was like, oh man, they're going to piss so many
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people off doing this. Why are they doing this?
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Well, OK, now I we know why they're doing it because they
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need people to get excited about it.
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So the studio will go, Oh, there is an audience because if they
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just kind of fart it out and don't hype it up, maybe it'll
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never happen. And So what they said was this,
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a lot of people are going to do rewatches now.
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This is what people have been saying on Reddit.
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If you're going to rewatch Firefly you might have Blu rays
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and stuff, which yeah that's the best way to watch it.
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But fucking don't do that mate. Watch it on Hulu because then
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they can see that people are watching it.
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Watching it, Yep, you see, I'm now actually a little bit more
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scared that it's not going to be made honestly.
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Oh. Me too.
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It very well may not be made. Yep.
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This was a stunt. Like, let's be honest and and I
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completely understand why they did it, but this was a stunt.
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Worked well. Yes, yes, it had the effect they
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they wanted to show. People would watch this
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basically because I assume the sentiment was that people would
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not. Yeah.
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They were concerned from the studios.
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Pissed off with you, and I'm going to be even more pissed off
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if this doesn't happen now. Yeah.
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Which is a chance that it won't. Yeah, yeah.
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Because I mean, they might be able to do it if they've got all
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the permission and stuff, if they can get enough money
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together, maybe they could do it on YouTube or something.
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But that's just that's but. And that wouldn't be nothing,
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but that's not but. You know, even that there's,
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there's money, it's the you still got a lot of money behind
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it to for it to. Be to pay the studio and the
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animators and stuff like that. Like, even if the actors did it
19:39
for free, someone's going to animate it, yeah?
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And the actors be honest, they're not going to do an
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entire season voice acting for free.
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I. Wouldn't have thought so.
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They're all very successful now. Yes, so I'm.
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Except Adam Baldwin. I don't know what Adam Baldwin's
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up to. They did drag him out.
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In fact, that's probably the most controversial part about
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it. They said just Sweden's not
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going to be in it. But they have got Adam Baldwin.
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You know, I mean, he didn't I. Still think that he's.
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Assault anybody, But he has been controversial.
20:08
He's been controversial, but I also think he's been a bit quiet
20:11
lately. Yeah.
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Oh yeah. Like for quite a few.
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Years. I don't even know what he's been
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doing since I saw him in Chuck. That show Chuck, which was I
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like, right? I didn't mind Chuck.
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No, I didn't mind Chuck and Zach.
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Levi's also same thing. He's come out as very right wing
20:29
and Yep, been a little bit of. A but I also think.
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Not a good sell for for. Serious that both of those
20:40
people could be brought back to the middle.
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Maybe I mean. Middle ground.
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I mean, Baldwin went pretty hard.
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He did, but I think he has come back a little bit.
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Oh, OK, He's been, he was in SWOT, that TV show SWOT, and
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he's been doing some show called 911 Lone Star.
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OK. Which is look how with Gina
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Torres well. She's working together still.
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Yeah, OK, interesting. So he was on that show with Rob
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Lowe. Gina Torres is on the poster, so
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she must be a main character, all right?
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And he's been in that. So he's been doing stuff.
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Just stuff that I watch. Anyway, yeah, I don't really
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watch a lot of like cop TV shows there.
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No, I don't watch a lot of TV shows in general unless someone
21:32
specifically tells me I should or I get interested for some
21:35
reason. But I know people, like people
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who listen to this show. You know who you are have said I
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don't know about it if Adam Baldwin was involved, which is
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fair enough. He went pretty hard.
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He did, being a Dick head. But I also think he rolled it
21:51
back, which is something to also consider.
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That's fair. Yeah.
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Yeah. Did he roll it back?
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Do we know that? Well, I haven't heard of anyone
22:00
complaining about him recently. Well, that that just means he
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stopped talking. It doesn't mean he rolled it
22:04
back necessarily. I'm just not doubting you, but
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doubting you a little bit. He was in Half life too.
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And Halo ODST, Halo 3. See, you like him.
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You love Adam Baldwin. Scram.
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Do. As his little Twitter catch
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phrase scram when when lefties came at him he would say look.
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I've always been a fan of like people may go off the rails a
22:35
little bit, but what we think he's off the rails.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He thinks he was arguing with a
22:40
bunch of people who are all going off the rails.
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That's what he thinks I'm assuming.
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But there's also you have if they start to not do that, you
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have to let them back, otherwise pushing people away.
22:53
I agree, but that's that's not how it works.
22:56
Broadly speaking, people tend to write people off pretty quick.
23:00
On the Internet, I do agree for that.
23:02
If somebody gets convinced, you should, you know, say OK, good
23:09
and like welcome them back. Yes.
23:13
Yes, because that's people getting, we don't have to get
23:17
too much into this, but I think yes, a lot of the people getting
23:19
radicalised is because they do get so pushed so far away that
23:24
they they're lost almost. Even sometimes people want to
23:27
have an honest conversation, but even starting that conversation
23:30
is, Oh no, you're against us. Yeah, yeah, there's we don't
23:36
have to go specifics, but there are topics that I've seen where
23:39
it's it's almost like it's off limits.
23:42
Yes. But I feel like clearly that's
23:45
not working because we have all these fucking idiots out there
23:48
who go really hard on them in the other direction.
23:51
And they use the fact that like they won't let you talk about
23:54
this as a kind of. Let's go to something else,
23:57
let's go to something else. Let me go back.
23:59
And I need to apologise yet again about how wrong I was
24:04
about June. Oh.
24:07
Yeah. I thought, wait.
24:11
Have you finally watched it? I still haven't watched it, but
24:15
they are making the third movie and I'm sort of I was, they were
24:19
going to make the first one. It was going to flop.
24:22
No one was going to see it. They will make.
24:24
It was fucking excellent. And here we are now, and the
24:30
June 3 trailer and posters are out.
24:34
It's it's. I was so wrong.
24:37
Do you know So I know you haven't read the books.
24:41
No, because all I know is he sits in the room.
24:46
Yep, that happens at one point. Yep, June Messiah, the third
24:54
book. Is sorry the second book.
24:56
Jesus, they're confusing me now. Second book is was controversial
25:01
when it came out. Yeah.
25:02
Yeah, because Dune happened and everyone loved Dune.
25:06
And then Frank Herbert, who wrote it, said, no, no, you got
25:12
it wrong. He's not the Messiah.
25:14
He's a very naughty boy. No, he's he's not the Messiah.
25:17
The whole point is that they took advantage of, of people and
25:23
set up this thing. And yeah, yeah, it's not, he's
25:25
not polar trade. Is, is not supposed to be like a
25:28
white saviour kind of Messiah person.
25:31
And he's saying you, you, you got it wrong.
25:34
That's not the message I was trying to send.
25:36
And so he was annoyed. And so the second book do
25:40
Messiah is very different and it's set like 1520 years later.
25:45
And it was supposed to just show how it all went to shit kind of
25:48
thing. And people didn't like it
25:50
because they were like, oh, I thought he was going to be like,
25:53
you know, leading them to victory.
25:55
And then he's like, that wasn't the fucking point.
25:57
You missed the point of what I was telling you.
26:01
So I was interested to see what this film will be because it's
26:07
they, he's basically taken Dune and Dune Messiah and kind of he
26:11
already smushed them together a little bit because it was stuff
26:14
in Dune Part 2 that would have been a Messiah and they jiggled
26:18
them around. Doesn't someone turn into a
26:20
worm? We're.
26:21
Not going to get to see that. That's later.
26:24
Yes, yes. And we're getting closer to
26:27
there maybe being a movie where that happens, but it's not this
26:30
movie. It's not this movie, OK?
26:32
But I'm this looks. Like it looks great and it looks
26:35
like a bigger action kind of movie.
26:40
Like it's got a lot from what they've said and from the
26:42
trailer it looks like it's got a lot of action stuff in it, which
26:44
is interesting because it's been a little bit since I read the
26:47
book. But my memory of the book is
26:48
that it doesn't have a lot of that.
26:51
It's more. I get not political.
26:57
But like it's just not a big action movie, action book kind
27:01
of thing. So I'm just interested to see
27:02
where they're going with it. And and they're saying the
27:05
conclusion to the Dune trilogy, which is interesting because
27:08
it's not a trilogy it. They're making it a trilogy.
27:12
Everything. I guess they're going to wrap
27:13
this up because. The book also.
27:16
Doesn't wrap everything up. It like introduces some more
27:21
things and then there's more books after that, and my memory
27:24
of it is that it does not wrap things up.
27:26
Particularly, this is. This is pretty much him saying
27:29
like, I'm done after this 10. He's already said that.
27:32
Yeah, he's out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:34
I mean, fair enough. If this one is successful, as it
27:39
probably will be, he definitely should stop because there will
27:42
come a point where one of them will be shit.
27:44
Like it just always happens and. He's probably smart to go.
27:49
Look, I'm out of this one, but yeah.
27:53
Someone else might take. Over the studio?
27:56
Well, they're not saying. That.
27:57
But yes, you're right. Yeah.
28:00
Studio is like the money. They're not going to adapt.
28:04
God Emperor of Dune where? Where someone?
28:09
Yeah, they've got. A They've got one book, I think.
28:12
In between children of. Dune, but they're not going to a
28:17
lot of books. About 1.
28:18
Room, Yeah. Yeah, just recognizing.
28:24
Footsteps. Yep.
28:26
That's what they're all about. They've made a trilogy of movies
28:29
about someone walking into a room.
28:31
Yep. And and they made a.
28:33
Video game about it which? I'm still playing and loving
28:37
gets in. Trouble for having.
28:38
Their back to the door. Yep.
28:41
Flew my own nathupta down. To the shell.
28:44
This is the radioactive part of the map.
28:46
Got myself a radiation suit. I found a little spot that's not
28:49
not too bad, not too radiated, but a little bass down there,
28:52
but a little bass down there. So you got a little.
28:53
Bit of go to, you can store some resources down there, yeah.
28:56
Fly it back in back to my main base of my ornithopter.
28:59
I want to play it. Fucking great.
29:03
It's really. Good.
29:05
I've just it's coming. To console soon.
29:06
That's all I'm going with. It's coming.
29:08
I've been playing it with this. Too in preparation.
29:10
Not in preparation, but just because I, I work all day on my
29:14
computer and then and then I stop and then I play that and
29:16
I'm like, I'm gonna get RSI. So yeah, I need to move away.
29:20
From a keyboard and yeah, so in. Particular two different yeah,
29:24
whenever I'm driving a vehicle of any kind in that game now I
29:28
switch to the controller when I'm building Sometimes I still
29:30
use a keyboard and a mouse. I can see why building.
29:32
Would be a bit easier with a mouse, yeah.
29:35
Yeah, and the combat is easier for me currently because I've
29:40
got muscle memory because I've been playing with the keyboard
29:43
mouse, so I can switch like switch weapons with the number
29:47
keys and stuff. Like I know like my drill shot
29:50
is number 1. My my assault rifle is number 2.
29:54
Whereas on the controller I have to hold Y wait for a little bit
29:58
the wheel pops up. And it's just like.
30:01
Yeah. Whereas with the buttons I can
30:05
just. Instantly switch to the drill
30:06
shot, which is. If you've played with games,
30:09
you'll know why that's. Required.
30:10
Sometimes and I'll play with you.
30:13
I'll build my little shitty base next to yours.
30:16
Bring down the price market in your neighborhood.
30:19
There's no room mate. My server got crowded because I
30:22
picked I, because I, I picked the server a Ruckus because I
30:26
was like, well, that one's going to be.
30:28
That one's not going to go away. So I picked that one.
30:32
And then I picked, I forget which siege I picked.
30:35
There's like when you join a server, you also join like a,
30:38
it's a like a siege, like a. You don't know what that is, but
30:41
it's like a freeman base from a community.
30:44
And it's not like I'm gonna need a.
30:46
Lot of room. Let's be honest.
30:48
No, in fact, you could. I've got room for you in my
30:51
base. My base is fucking enormous at
30:53
this point. Yeah, I don't need.
30:56
A big base. I just need to tutorial little
30:59
box and I'm done. I was.
31:02
Working on my base a little bit last night and I have like a
31:05
whole wing of it that is just empty so you you can just live
31:09
there if you want to Thank you and I'll just.
31:12
Go and mind shit great. Works.
31:15
Yeah, you can use the buggy. I'll give you a buggy to use.
31:19
They're going to be your. Ornithopter you can't mine.
31:22
Directly from an ornithopter, the buggy has a laser in it a
31:25
mining. Laser in it.
31:26
I mean you can. Borrow an ornithopter, Yeah, but
31:28
just what happens to blows? Up So The funny thing.
31:32
About this game is sorry to talk about this game again listeners
31:34
isn't too bad. There is no like vehicle damage
31:42
from crashing or anything. So and I think I assume it's
31:48
because I actually don't know why technically you get vehicle
31:54
damage, wear and tear as you drive them about And then if
31:57
people are shooting at you, you'll take vehicle damage.
32:01
But you can literally so my, my base is up on top of a Cliff.
32:05
Yes. And I've you, you come up this
32:09
hill and and then you're in my kind of driveway and the garage
32:12
is over here. That's where all the vehicles
32:14
get parked And then I have a big balcony out of the Cliff and
32:17
there's a gap that I left because you can get in the
32:20
buggy. Alright, so up top on the Cliff
32:23
where I am is where the aluminium and basalt are and you
32:26
mine those and some copper and some other stuff.
32:29
But if you need iron or some other stuff that's down on the
32:33
sand down below, on some of the outcroppings down there, So what
32:37
you can do because there's no vehicle damage from crashing or
32:40
whatever, just get in the butt, drive off and you just drive off
32:43
my balcony and then. You fall for like.
32:47
Oh, hi, yes you can. Wow, where did she come?
32:51
From she came from bed hi. Oh, love you.
32:58
I did not see her. Walking, walking in the door.
33:02
I love you. Bye bye.
33:06
Now she's snuck in. She's been very good.
33:09
Oh, what's up? Oh, thanks honey, thank you, My
33:16
hat says multiple nerdgasm. She does not know what.
33:24
That is, yes. You just drive the buggy off the
33:29
balcony, Yeah. And then away you go, do your
33:32
stuff. Yeah, but then you've got to.
33:33
Drive back up, but that's drive back up.
33:35
That's the. Long part, but I picked.
33:37
Up. I picked a spot where it's not
33:39
too big of a deal, OK. Yeah.
33:42
Well, I can do that. Yep, then I was.
33:44
Going to mine. Stuff, drop it off, go mum some
33:47
more, Great, I enjoy. That it's.
33:50
Very relaxing I find. No it is.
33:52
I did a. So before bed I didn't have a
33:54
huge amount of time. So Jenna's away, she's in
33:57
Romania, as you do and. Lucky her.
34:01
She went to Romania with her sister and so it's just me and
34:05
the kiddo at the moment and we watched Sonic 3 last night talk
34:09
about, oh, how is that It's. Fucking awesome.
34:12
I do because what? Sonic 2 introduced Knuckles and
34:16
Tails and. Sonic and Tails.
34:18
And Sonic Three I think introduces Shadow, yes, played
34:21
by Keanu. Reeves.
34:25
It's really good first one. And I really.
34:27
Enjoyed it. I need to see the next two.
34:29
Oh yeah, no, look the. 1st 1 was great.
34:31
The second one I I would, I would should rewatch it.
34:34
I the second one was not I didn't like as much.
34:36
The third one last night, I really enjoyed it.
34:38
I mean, it's ridiculous, but like in a good way, like it just
34:42
it's ridiculous. No, I really liked it and it's
34:48
yeah, she loved it too. Jim Carrey's very funny.
34:53
What can I say? Hey, it's got Kristen Ritten
34:55
now. Kristen Ritter in it.
34:56
You like her, I assume. Kristen Ritter, you don't.
34:59
Know who that is, people. Like her, I just assumed you
35:01
would. She's Jessica Jones in Jessica
35:07
Jones. Oh yo.
35:10
Yes, yeah. You know her vice visually?
35:15
Yeah, she's. In it.
35:17
I think I. Think I know who I'm talking
35:18
about? Let me just double check.
35:19
Jessica Jones, Robotnik's assistant, is.
35:22
In it a lot. He's very they're really.
35:24
Oh, no, I, I do, yes. I do.
35:25
I do quite like her, yes. OK.
35:30
She was in. The bitch from Don't Trust the
35:33
bitch from the James Vanderbeek from Yeah, Vanderbeek.
35:38
I. Think she's very funny?
35:39
I haven't seen her anything serious, but I think she's very
35:42
funny. Well, this is not serious, so.
35:44
So this will work. It's a fucking movie about a
35:46
hedgehog. From space, so I'm happy.
35:50
So happy that they changed the way that Sonic looked from that.
35:54
Initial. Hideous.
35:56
Thing. That whatever that was, I mean,
36:00
it might have worked out, but. I don't think it would have I.
36:02
Don't think we would have had the third movie if they hadn't
36:05
kept it as that original, yeah. Maybe not.
36:10
Maybe not, but Jim Carrey's really funny in it and Keanu
36:13
Reeves is great. It's just Keanu Reeves.
36:15
It's like there's some Keanu Reeves jokes in it.
36:22
Like if you know, you know, kind of thing.
36:24
Like he'll shadow does a thing and you go, oh, that's John Wick
36:26
and it all, all that's neo or whatever kind of thing.
36:29
Like it's yeah, it's good. It's very funny.
36:32
And yeah, I liked it and I was looking.
36:36
I gotta say I was impressed by the visual effects because.
36:42
The little cartoon characters. In the world, right?
36:46
Like even if the first like Sonic's looks ridiculous, yes,
36:49
but like you get used to it. Yeah, and in this one in
36:53
particular, I was just like fucking great visual effects.
36:56
Like it just looks it looks great.
36:59
Put the actual timing. As opposed to some other movies
37:01
that are just starting the phone?
37:03
Yeah, yeah, there's some stuff in.
37:04
This, that's just like, man, that's a great visual.
37:06
Like, like it just. Yeah, it's good.
37:09
Yeah. Excellent.
37:10
No, I should get around to watching the two because yeah,
37:13
the first one was great and I wasn't expecting that from A
37:17
Yeah, 2's good, I remember. I just, it does.
37:21
I didn't feel like this about like the the the third one I
37:24
watched last night and I was just like, that was really good.
37:27
Yeah, the the second one I was like, yeah, that's fine.
37:29
I think, yeah. Wonder if we're going to get
37:33
more? Yes, Sonic 4 comes out.
37:35
Next year. Oh, there we.
37:37
Go then that was actually lira the teaser trailer.
37:40
Because she had some questions about certain things.
37:44
And I said, oh, I think you'll find you don't have to worry
37:47
about that. And I showed her the teaser
37:48
trailer and she was like, oh, I won't spoil anything, but yeah,
37:52
there's yeah. I will go and see at the.
37:56
Movies, because I'm going to the movies a lot more often.
37:58
I'm going to go to the movies on Monday.
38:01
What do you see on Monday? Ready or not, here I.
38:04
Come, oh. That's the second one of that.
38:07
Series, right? Yes.
38:08
Starring Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
38:10
Exactly. Sarah Michelle Gellar's In It.
38:13
And whose daughter is she? The.
38:14
First one? I haven't seen the first one.
38:15
She was seen the first one, no? OK, I forget.
38:17
Whose daughter? Is a star.
38:20
She's Australian Margot Robbie. Stop, Margot.
38:24
Robbie not possible. Not possible.
38:25
She's too. She's too old.
38:28
Is it? I didn't know she was
38:29
Australian. She looks like Margot Robbie.
38:31
That's why I said that. And they've been photographed
38:34
together. Really not.
38:37
Samara weaving. Oh.
38:42
I know that name. Yes.
38:44
And who was her father, Ready or Not 2000?
38:51
19. Mother.
38:55
Sara weaving it's. Trivia.
38:58
We've got some trigger weaving. Oh fuck, of course yes.
39:05
OK. From the name.
39:07
I'm saying that. I actually did not know that.
39:09
So she's Hugo Weaving's daughter.
39:11
Yes. All right.
39:14
And I think she's great in what she.
39:15
Does. From what I've seen her in.
39:19
Which I mean, he's, he's great. So yeah.
39:23
There you go, she was in 200% wolf.
39:28
Never heard of that. That is.
39:30
Me neither. Oh, it's an.
39:31
Animated movie that looks interesting.
39:35
My daughter would probably. Enjoy that, it's got Jennifer
39:39
Saunders in it anyway. Whatever, I'm kidding.
39:41
But yeah, no, basically IMDb rabbit.
39:43
Hole the. First, the first.
39:45
Really, you know, is she's about to spoil her.
39:47
She's about to marry into a family and then play a game as a
39:51
sort of introduction to the thing.
39:55
And it can be like a very simple game, or it's a hide and seek
39:58
game where everyone tries to hunt her and kill her, right?
40:03
And evidently. The sequel is, well, because she
40:07
stayed alive, she now has to be haunted by the rest of the
40:11
cousins and stuff or something. OK.
40:15
All right. And then?
40:16
She inherits everything OK I'm guessing.
40:20
I guess maybe I should watch the 1st.
40:21
Was it good? The first one I could.
40:23
I enjoyed it, yeah. All right, I'll watch it.
40:25
Yeah. Maybe, maybe, maybe I'll get
40:26
around to it, but I'll watch the Snookel on Monday.
40:30
Because I'm cheap and it's only 10 bucks.
40:33
There's a movie coming out that I'm.
40:34
Interested in, I didn't know this was happening, but I've
40:36
seen the trailer. They now they released the
40:38
trailer the other day and I was like, oh, I didn't know they
40:40
were doing that. It's Jack Ryan.
40:43
I enjoyed that series on Prime. I think it was on Prime with
40:48
John Krasinski as Jack Ryan. And then I watched all of it and
40:53
it ended and I was like, oh, could have been more.
40:56
Of that they kind of set. Up some stuff.
40:58
Well, now we get it. They're doing it, and they're
41:01
doing. It as a movie?
41:02
Yeah. Jack Ryan.
41:04
Ghost War. So that comes out on May 20th.
41:07
Oh, quite soon. Yeah.
41:10
Yeah, I I guess, I don't know, maybe this was known that this
41:12
was happening. I didn't know, No.
41:15
I mean, they they don't. Often call me up just to tell me
41:18
they're making them, but no, they should I.
41:20
Was not aware. They should be calling us.
41:25
Yeah. I'll watch it.
41:28
And you get. To tidy up the end, because I'm
41:30
guessing this is the end of it all.
41:32
Must be. It's got to be, yeah.
41:33
Yeah, yeah, this is 1 I watch on my own.
41:35
Jenna will not give a shit about this.
41:38
This is. This is the type of.
41:39
Thing that I wish a lot of movies, TV shows had sort of
41:43
built into their contract. Like we can make stuff, but if
41:46
you end up early, we're allowed to go make a movie, right?
41:49
To tie up the loose ends. Yeah, I think that.
41:53
Would be good for some. TV shows that just don't get
41:55
renewed. I think that's probably too big
41:59
a financial commitment for a studio, though.
42:01
They like, you've never cancelled you.
42:03
We're cancelling you. Yeah, but I just.
42:06
If you're smart, get that building to your contract.
42:08
If you cancel us, we can make a movie to tie things up.
42:11
Give it a go. See if they'll do it.
42:14
Yeah, the Academy Awards happened.
42:19
Oh, they did. God, yeah, I that is how much I
42:22
attention I paid to them that I didn't even know they happened.
42:26
Yeah. Now I knew they were happening.
42:29
I didn't watch them or anything. I kind of just was like, Oh
42:32
yeah, what happened? So I mean, we can just quickly
42:34
quick run through if it's interesting, Best picture 1
42:39
battle after another, which I actually do really want to
42:42
watch. That's the what's his name
42:45
Leonardo DiCaprio movie by so always.
42:49
Fox or Bear? The Revenant.
42:53
I don't think he fucks them there.
42:55
One battle after another. Who directed this?
42:57
This is Paul Thomas Anderson. I knew him or all of the
43:01
nominees. I've seen one of them and I
43:03
think that should have won and that was F1.
43:05
Do you? Think F1 should have won?
43:08
Best Picture? Yep, because the only movie.
43:10
You've seen out of all of them, and I know that the award, these
43:13
awards are not for me. I was rooting.
43:15
For Sinners, because Sinners is fucking excellent and you gotta
43:20
watch Sinners. F1 was a great movie.
43:23
F1 was fine. What are you trying?
43:27
Best picture? Come on, Best Picture.
43:30
It was good. It was like a.
43:32
Throwback actiony movie. I want best.
43:36
Picture I'm looking forward to see.
43:38
I'm looking forward to the sequel.
43:40
Look just for next time. I just there was no way that was
43:44
going to win. Let's just so use the temp for
43:46
those expectations next time. I honestly I'm surprised it's on
43:50
this list. I can only go off.
43:51
What I've seen, that was it. That's the one you've seen.
43:55
You haven't. Watched Frankenstein.
43:57
Frankenstein was too long. Yep, as soon as is.
44:02
Excellent. And I thought it was gonna.
44:04
I was hoping it was gonna win. It did not win, but it won some
44:08
stuff. Michael B Jordan won Best Actor
44:11
for Sinners. Which?
44:13
Yeah, he was fucking great. He was two people in it and you
44:17
know, there's not easy to do although.
44:22
Slight spoilers. Jim Carrey was two people in
44:25
Sonic Three. He didn't win an Academy Award,
44:28
So how's that feel? That was never going to be.
44:31
Nominated. F1.
44:37
I like the F1 movie. Let's be clear.
44:40
Best director Paul Thomas Anderson won battle after
44:43
another, you know, fair enough. It won Best Picture and Best
44:46
Director. Best.
44:49
Actress Jessie Buckley for Hamnet.
44:53
I don't know who she is and I. Don't haven't seen that.
44:56
Movie. And I've just googled and I'm
44:58
not familiar with her, but you know, no reason no doesn't.
45:01
Mean she can't win. Clearly, just because I don't
45:04
know who she is. Best supporting actress Amy
45:06
Madigan for weapons. I need to see that.
45:10
Weapons is very good. That's good.
45:14
Yeah, she was good in that best supporting actor Sean Penn 1
45:17
battle after another best animated feature K pop Demon
45:21
hunters Makes sense. There was a little controversy
45:26
about that. Oh, really only OK.
45:29
So they K Pop Demon Hunters won best animated picture.
45:33
They got up to do the speeches and I think one of the one of
45:36
the the ladies who the singing ladies from it just talked and
45:40
then they tried, they went to switch over to somebody.
45:43
It's one of the crew, I don't know, the director or an
45:45
executive producer somebody. Anyway, they cut them off in the
45:49
middle of the speech. Right.
45:51
And songwriters of Gold, the songwriters of Golden, we're
45:57
accepting their oh, it's not even that one.
45:59
OK, sorry, I've gotten this mixed up.
46:01
Best Song, right? It was when Best Song won Golden
46:07
from K Pop Team Hunters won Best Song.
46:09
They got to accept the award for that.
46:11
And they cut off while the songwriter was about to say
46:14
something and people were like, you, What are you cutting them
46:17
off for? Except they always do that
46:22
because there's you've got it in a lot of time.
46:25
And so the Disney exec, OK, what's his name, came out and
46:29
said like, yeah, it's unfortunate.
46:31
But like they get told beforehand, you've got this huge
46:35
time and we've got a show to get through.
46:38
So we can't just let people go up there and talk and it
46:41
normally goes over. Every single time, because they
46:44
got to play the music and they give you, they give you a
46:46
warning, I think like, yeah, this is what they said.
46:50
This is Walt. Disney Television's Rob Mills.
46:54
One thing, as we postmortem for next year, will be to look at
46:56
how we're handling speeches. You win the Oscar, you go on
46:59
stage. It could be one person, it could
47:01
be 5 or 6 people. Immediately you'll see the
47:04
allotted time you have. Yeah.
47:07
And So what he's saying is they had a whole bunch of people up
47:10
there and they all wanted to talk.
47:12
You don't all get. You don't have.
47:14
Time for that like. Yeah, it's and it's unfortunate
47:16
that it was like, I think, I think because they're Korean, I
47:22
think it got taken in a weird way like, but I just don't think
47:27
that's got anything to do. I don't think it's got anything.
47:30
No, they they play. People off all the time for not
47:33
like, let's wrap this up. It's a whole thing, yeah, so.
47:38
I don't know, it's just it's a little weird.
47:41
Oh, so OK, when they weren't, I'm not I wasn't wrong when they
47:45
won best animated feature, they also got cut off.
47:48
Oh so. They're saying like, you've cut
47:50
us off twice. What's going on?
47:52
Yeah. And they're.
47:54
Saying shut up, you've got a lot.
47:55
Of people up. There and you don't have.
47:57
We didn't allocate time for you all to come up and say something
48:00
like you get a certain amount of time and then you got to get off
48:03
the stage so we can keep going because it's a show we're doing,
48:05
so they're going to make it a bit clearer.
48:06
By having like a countdown in front of them and I think though
48:10
which? Makes sense?
48:11
Online people were like. Oh, they're being racist?
48:14
I don't think so, I think. But of course.
48:20
K Pop David Hunt says We're going to win because it's
48:23
fucking great. What else were they?
48:25
Up against let's. Have a look.
48:30
I've closed that tab now. Because I got bored.
48:32
I got bored of talking about it. Zootopia 2 is apparently very
48:34
good. Best score was Sinners.
48:39
Ludwig Garinson went for that. Makes sense.
48:42
Good school, fucking great soundtrack.
48:43
Oh, you're going to. You're going to love.
48:44
The music in Project Hail Mary, by the way, I forgot to tell
48:47
you. I know who did that and I can't.
48:51
Remember, I think. You're going to enjoy it.
48:55
Who did project? Hail Mary.
48:56
I know the answer to that already.
49:02
Project Hail Mary. It was just something I noticed.
49:05
During the movie, I went, yeah, I was gonna like this.
49:08
Oh, the soundtrack's. Out there you go.
49:11
Oh. Daniel Pemberton.
49:12
Right. Yep.
49:13
Yeah, he did Into the Spider verse and stuff.
49:16
He's very good. Yeah, I actually, actually
49:18
listening and I went. No, I think Matt's gonna enjoy
49:20
the soundtrack to this best animated film.
49:23
Where is it animated? Best animated.
49:28
Feature cable view How does? Arco never seen it.
49:30
Elio never heard of it. Little Amelie or character of
49:33
Rain, never heard of it. Zootopia 2 So OK, I'll call you.
49:37
Bullshit on something I just saw go on best visual effects avatar
49:42
fire and ash. You saw that phone?
49:46
That in what? Was it?
49:47
That was probably one of the worst of all the avatars.
49:52
That's some of the worst visual effects of all those movies.
49:57
Yeah, Avatar. Phone Ash F1 Jurassic World
50:03
Rebirth The Lost Bus. I don't know that it's in
50:05
Sinners. It's interesting.
50:06
Sinners. I don't quote.
50:10
I don't know. I don't think they're they're.
50:13
There, it doesn't seem like a category for them.
50:17
It's weird, right? Visual.
50:18
Effects are so interesting to think about now because you're
50:22
not supposed to notice them. So I'm looking at these and I'm
50:26
going, I have a tough fire and ash.
50:28
Obviously that's got a little visual effects because it's
50:30
literally digital people. F1 I was like, like, what were
50:34
the visual effects in F1? I don't even know.
50:36
But then that doesn't mean they're not there and that
50:38
doesn't mean they weren't very good.
50:39
Because the fact that I don't even know what was visual
50:41
effects is good, right? Jurassic World Rebirth,
50:46
Obviously there's dinosaurs. There could have been aliens.
50:50
With the original script as I keep saying glust.
50:54
Bust then orders and sinners sinners had Does visual effects
50:58
mean digital or does visual effects mean just like makeup
51:03
effects and stuff too? Because my sense is that it had
51:07
a lot of and. Stuff.
51:10
So makeup's got their own thing, yeah.
51:12
I'd get again, sinners. I don't know what the visual
51:13
effects were in that oh wait, Michael B Jordan was 2 fucking
51:18
people and it was seamless. So I I feel like they did have
51:24
very good visual effects that probably should have won.
51:26
Over Avatar, which was just. The same thing over.
51:33
Because I'm just realising. Yes, there's literally scenes
51:35
where Michael B Jordan is talking to himself and handing
51:38
himself things back and forth and it's like it.
51:42
And that's hard to. Do really impressive at. 1st and
51:45
then you forget that that's not two people.
51:47
That's how good it is. Because normally.
51:50
When you see that their their eye line is off, like there's
51:52
something that's always slightly off with that, the more I think.
51:56
About it, the more I'm like, I didn't see Avatar, but I do
52:01
think the Sinners is very impressive now that I think
52:03
about it, because it's not noticeable.
52:05
Yeah. But then when?
52:07
Now that I'm thinking about it, yeah, they had to shoot
52:09
everything twice. That's what you want for.
52:12
Me is you want it to be unnoticeable and that's what you
52:15
want. Best sound F1.
52:19
Yes, I did see that. Yeah, yeah.
52:21
I mean, I, I heard that. I heard that movie when I
52:23
watched it. Zoom Best sound.
52:30
Sinners don't know what about life?
52:32
You know, I didn't see Frankenstein, man.
52:34
Frankenstein. I haven't seen it.
52:37
I wanted to like that. Well, you'd like it.
52:38
It's. Got me a goth in it.
52:40
You'd love that. Oh Shyla buff's.
52:45
Oh yes, we need to talk about him.
52:47
Again. Yeah, I forgot to put that in.
52:50
He's on the loose. Yeah, he's.
52:53
Really lost people in a fucking hotel.
52:54
In his underwear or something anyway.
52:58
Yeah, Anyway, so that's it kind of me.
52:59
What's happened? That's some of it.
53:02
And again, it's just lots. Of movies that I have no
53:05
interest in. Some that I do.
53:10
There's a couple. That I knew some of them this
53:13
time. That's that's very rare.
53:16
That's a good point actually. There's some years where I'm
53:18
like, I don't know, I haven't seen any of these movies because
53:21
the thing. About like the Oscars, They're
53:23
not for us. They're not.
53:25
I really go and. See Movies.
53:27
Because young people are like. What even is this?
53:30
Who cares about this? But like, yeah, this is about
53:33
yeah being. Recognized by your peers and
53:36
stuff. That's what it's about, yeah.
53:38
It's like a. It's like.
53:39
A industry event? Yes.
53:41
Like, yeah, that just happens because it's full of
53:44
celebrities. Yes.
53:46
Oh, Speaking of celebrities, I I found this.
53:48
I didn't. I know this is old now because
53:51
James Van der Beek was on it and he was looking healthy.
53:55
Have you seen Under a Rock with Tig Notaro?
53:59
No do. You know Tig Notaro.
54:01
I know Tig, she's great. Yeah, so she has.
54:04
It's only two seasons of it. It's very, and they're not long.
54:06
She had a little talk show on YouTube where she doesn't watch
54:11
anything. She's doesn't follow pop culture
54:14
and she's had a lot of apparently embarrassing
54:16
experiences where she just doesn't recognise celebrities
54:18
because she doesn't she's not involved in any of that stuff.
54:21
And so like, for example, her story that she told about this
54:26
was that she was once at an event backstage at some some
54:31
event, or it was after they'd finished shooting something and
54:33
she was at a wrap party, I think, or something.
54:35
Anyway, someone came up to her and said, oh, Tig, hi.
54:38
And she was like, hi and then chatting to this person.
54:41
And then the person was like, hey, sorry, no, we met once
54:44
before, you know, at a thing. And Tig was like, oh, OK.
54:47
And then one was like, yeah, I'm Anne Hathaway and and.
54:53
She was like. OK, play.
54:56
Yeah. And then went home and told her
54:58
her wife about it. Oh, she calls her her husband
55:01
and she said, Oh yeah. She said, Oh yeah.
55:04
We met once before at this. I'm I'm Anne Hathaway from the
55:08
the after party of whatever. And her wife said, oh, she
55:10
didn't say I'm Anne Hathaway from Anne Hathaway, like.
55:15
So anyway, she's a talk show. With like two seasons of very
55:20
short episodes on YouTube where it's called Under a Rock and
55:22
it's basically it's Tig Notaro and a celebrity comes on and she
55:26
has to figure out who it is. And it's it's really.
55:30
Funny because, and the one I first one I saw was Glenn
55:33
Houghton from It's Always Sunny. Yeah.
55:37
Yeah, and then she, he. Comes in and you can tell every
55:39
time they come in, they're like looking to see does she know who
55:43
I am? And she does not.
55:46
It's and it's really funny. I think I'm gonna have to watch.
55:49
That because I'd, I do like to like, I think she's, she's very
55:54
quick. She does.
55:54
She's very funny, yeah. And she's very, yeah, it's, it's
55:58
very endearing. I loved her in like.
56:01
What was that zombie movie that she got recast?
56:04
Because not just recast. GI did the movie they like
56:09
pasted her over that guy that was and she did a great job
56:12
with. That, but I love she's in Star
56:14
Trek. Like, Yep, that's what it was.
56:16
It was a Star Trek. Wrap party.
56:18
You just reminded me there was a Star Trek wrap party she was at
56:20
with Anne Hathaway. And she and Anne Hathaway came
56:23
over and she was like, oh, sorry, were you in Star Trek as
56:26
well? And she was like, no.
56:29
Why are you here? Security.
56:31
Yeah, exactly. Very funny.
56:36
Yeah, watch that. It's.
56:36
Good. It's called Under a Rock, and
56:40
the Kaylee Cuoco 1 is very good too.
56:42
And James Vanderbeek, the very first episode is James
56:44
Vanderbeek. And it's especially funny
56:45
because you can tell James Vanderbeek is not used to not
56:50
being recognized and he's finding, he finds it really and
56:54
and entertaining because he's giving her clues and he's like,
56:57
are you fucking serious? You don't know who I am.
57:01
Like this doesn't happen like I'm known.
57:04
For one thing, and he's. Very, very famous for it, yes.
57:11
Yeah. Yeah, he's like cackling at
57:12
times. He gives her a clue and she's
57:14
like, OK. He's like, I'm so upset that he
57:17
died. Yeah.
57:20
Yeah, it's sad mate, we've got a young age.
57:23
For the after party, this. Week I've I've got a Sophie's
57:28
Choice for you. I think I, I have a feeling I
57:30
know what you're going to do, but this is going to be a tough
57:32
one. Actually, but I think I do know
57:36
who is in up for geek of the week and I think I know where
57:42
I'm going to go, but we'll see. I'm feeling I I've.
57:45
Thought so. OK, so listeners who don't know
57:47
or watchers who don't know. Witnesses.
57:49
Witnesses. Geek of.
57:50
The week. If when celebrities die, we put
57:53
them on a list and Luke will decide who wins Geek of the
57:57
week, which is the award we give to a celebrity who has died.
58:01
The best celebrity who died this week.
58:04
And I've got 2 doozies for us. I'll say yeah. 1.
58:11
I think everybody will be like, oh, wow.
58:14
And the other one, people will be like, maybe like who?
58:16
But yes. Both we know not personally, but
58:23
I've met one of them. Yes, that's in the after party
58:29
though, and he would sing for you.
58:31
He did sing for me. Yes.
58:33
The person who was up on stage with him would not.
58:37
Oh, I've. He sang twice for me.
58:40
I'll tell. That story in the after party.
58:42
Oh if anyone gives a shit I'm actually interested to get to.
58:44
The after party then? Yeah.
58:46
What's the after party? The after party is where we're
58:48
going. To continue talking, talk about
58:50
Geek of the Week and yeah, we're just going to continue doing
58:53
what we've been doing for the last hour.
58:55
Yeah, if you want to get to listen to us continue to talk,
58:59
you need to go to patreon.com/muscle Narcasim.
59:03
First of all, this $1.00 a week. You get the show early a month,
59:06
a month doesn't have. To be a week you can.
59:10
Get to a week. If you want.
59:11
You do. You want.
59:12
Yeah, yeah. For $5 a month, you get the show
59:16
early, but you also get the after party, which is where
59:18
we're going to go out to after this.
59:20
And then there's some other special stuff that I'm not
59:22
allowed to talk about on here because we'll get a pet shop
59:25
band if you give me too much money.
59:28
Yeah, yeah, very good. Before we go, one thing I just
59:32
wanted to mention. Steam Spring Sale is on and if
59:36
you want to play Doon Awakening, it's 40% off.
59:39
I hate the. Steam sales, the prices are far
59:43
too good and I buy games I know I'm never going to play.
59:47
It's on Dune awakening. 'S 40% off and I just bought the
59:51
season pass for it because I'm like, I've been playing this
59:53
game so much that you might have invested a little.
59:56
Bit more, yeah, yeah. And I've already got.
59:58
New building things and stuff and I was like, oh goodies, wow.
1:00:01
Like Star? Wars should I fall in always 3
1:00:04
bucks Yeah I know I saw that it's.
1:00:06
Fucking bananas. So should I survivor 7 semi
1:00:12
civilization? I mean I buy those on my X3
1:00:14
bucks. OK.
1:00:15
I own all these games, but they're, yeah.
1:00:20
Tiny Tina's Wonderland. Which is also a great game. 6
1:00:23
bucks Tiny Tina's. Was all right.
1:00:27
It was like, no, it was a good. Game.
1:00:28
But for $6, that's great. 06 dollars, yeah.
1:00:33
Sort of $60.00 game. But for $6, that's great value.
1:00:37
Yeah. Oh yeah.
1:00:38
So. Steam spells and one last other
1:00:39
last thing before we go that's PAX East next week so both when
1:00:43
you hear this, it probably has already started and I'll be
1:00:48
sitting in Australia very. Sad that Matt's a PAX East.
1:00:51
I'll be there. So ping us on social media if
1:00:55
you'll be there and I'll and we'll say hi.
1:00:58
And as I said, Matt will. Buy your beer.
1:01:02
Maybe I commit Matt. To buying you a beer if you
1:01:07
contact him. Fuck All right.
1:01:09
Enter Pax. East.
1:01:11
All right. All right, fine.
1:01:14
Yep. Hit me up.
1:01:16
You have to talk to me though. You can't just shout.
1:01:17
I'm here for the beer. No, no, no.
1:01:19
There has to be a. Conversation that happens and it
1:01:22
could be over the bee, but there has to be a conversation they
1:01:27
usually. Have a voodoo Ranger.
1:01:28
Booth and I will probably be at that booth for an extended
1:01:33
period of time. So yeah, you can't.
1:01:35
Yeah. It's not just free, bee.
1:01:38
It's a conversation. It'll bee.
1:01:39
No, no. Yeah, I mean it it.
1:01:40
Is free beer. But it's not just that.
1:01:42
Yeah. Anyway, it doesn't have to be
1:01:43
more than a conversation too. I don't want this.
1:01:46
How? When Luke says it, it sounds
1:01:47
weird. What is that?
1:01:49
Weird. I'm not making you're like
1:01:50
awkward. It's just, it's got to be.
1:01:52
More than a beer. It's got to be more than a beer,
1:01:54
though. If I'm paying for a beer.
1:01:56
I'm going to want something else.
1:01:58
Exactly. That's all I'm saying.
1:02:01
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