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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 3: at Jillette Stadium, and that means it's pickstay for the moment.
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  Speaker 3: It's Paul, it's Alex, it's myself. We'll be joined by
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  Speaker 3: Oh for all, happy much, just for you, no, pretty
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  Speaker 3: much for everybody. Okay, all right, well we're getting better.
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  Speaker 3: Took us nine weeks, but we're getting there. A couple
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  Speaker 3: of bumps in the road. Oh oh okay, all right,
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  Speaker 3: well we'll get there. We got to hurry, but we
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  Speaker 3: will get there eventually. But first, let's talk about Patriots again.
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  Speaker 3: It's Paul and me and Alex. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking, I was thinking we on this show. We've
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  Speaker 3: talked about our duty to be objective. I think we
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  Speaker 3: owe it to our fans among all the stuff going
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  Speaker 3: on out there, you know, to be to give it,
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  Speaker 3: like to call like we see it, but to be
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  Speaker 3: fair about it, you know, and and you know, not
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  Speaker 3: go with all the hot takes and everything. And I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking, how easy, especially when you're two and seven
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  Speaker 3: things aren't going right, how easy it is to like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, everything's terrible, the sky's falling, and just like
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  Speaker 3: you know, harp on all the negatives, because like I said,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's easy. It's a lot tougher. Two, you know,
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  Speaker 3: look at what might be going right in in you know,
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  Speaker 3: where there might be hope and in that type of thing,
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  Speaker 3: and who might be doing a good job amidst all this,
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  Speaker 3: and and uh, that's all I was just thought. I
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  Speaker 3: thought this was going on. I was thinking. I was
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  Speaker 3: just thinking, that's it. That's a lot tougher. So as
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking about that this morning, I was looking
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  Speaker 3: at today's rundown and I said, oh, you know, coordinators
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  Speaker 3: are going at ten thirty or eleven or whenever, whatever
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  Speaker 3: it was is, I'm going to go down there and
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna go check it out. Make sure
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  Speaker 3: the fellas, Yeah, make sure the make sure everyone sees
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  Speaker 3: me and you know, how are things going, Because from
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  Speaker 3: you know, reading transcripts and seeing clips av P, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's kind of impressed me up there, So I would
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  Speaker 3: agree with that.
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  Speaker 4: I think he comes across well in those press conferences.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go down there and I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 3: check it out live. And you know, I think I
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  Speaker 3: think despite what everyone has to say about the play calling,
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  Speaker 3: I think he knows what he's doing. It's just an impression.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not in the meeting rooms. I don't know for sure,
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  Speaker 3: but he just seems like a guy who knows what
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  Speaker 3: he's talking about. Maybe maybe his system's a little antiquated,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Seems to be what everyone's trying to
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  Speaker 3: do these days. But I do know for sure that
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't have the horses that a lot of teams have.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly the offensive line is every week a different situation.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he didn't pick these wide receivers. But I
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  Speaker 3: think I think he's doing a pretty good job despite
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  Speaker 3: all that.
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  Speaker 5: I really do.
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  Speaker 6: I agree with you. I think he's getting a lot
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  Speaker 6: of flak that isn't necessarily all warranted. I think he's
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  Speaker 6: in a really tough spot. I think he's a good guy.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's a football guy, like I feel, I
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  Speaker 6: felt good about him after his first couple of press conferences.
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  Speaker 6: But it's just look what you're asking him to work with,
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  Speaker 6: and obviously there's a huge spotlight on him. I think,
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  Speaker 6: if anything, he's been a little conservative maybe with his
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  Speaker 6: play calling. But what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I think they're on how many rotations of the O line?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I didn't like his answer today on the on
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  Speaker 3: the second and one, like we should be able to
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  Speaker 3: get that yard. Yeah you should, but you also have
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  Speaker 3: the whole you know. But I've had that problem with
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinators down the line on second and one. I've
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've also been doing this blog that I
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  Speaker 3: do during the game for you know, a couple of
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  Speaker 3: decades now, probably, and from Trolley Weiss to Josh McDaniels
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  Speaker 3: to Bill O'Brien, everyone's always complaining about the play calling
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  Speaker 3: from time to time. And guess when they complain when
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  Speaker 3: the play didn't work, you know. So, like I'm not
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  Speaker 3: one to like criticize an offensive coordinator for play calling
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  Speaker 3: unless it's obviously oh that was a dumb call in
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  Speaker 3: a certain situation. But when plays go well, oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: You know, offensive coordinators are great, and when they don't,
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  Speaker 3: they get the blame. So I don't go there. I
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  Speaker 3: think he's I think he's doing okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would say for the most part
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  Speaker 4: of the play calling thing always drives me crazy. Yeah
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  Speaker 4: when this in You're exactly right, a play doesn't work
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  Speaker 4: and it draws all kinds of criticism. You and I
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  Speaker 4: are lockstep. On the second and one, we thought, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they had just thrown the ball twice for good games.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was like fourteen and nine. You know
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  Speaker 4: you're in a two minute dro keep it going, And
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  Speaker 4: I thought that call was But I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: like just sort of like, well, he stinks because he
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  Speaker 4: called a run play on second and one. I agree
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  Speaker 4: with his larger point. He called it the two most
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  Speaker 4: disappointing plays of the day. Right, it's not because he
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  Speaker 4: ran the ball. It's because they failed, right, like they
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  Speaker 4: absolutely to me they dropped the ball. You need you
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  Speaker 4: need to be able to get a yard on one
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  Speaker 4: of those two plays. I didn't like the second down
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  Speaker 4: and one and third and one get the dam you
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  Speaker 4: gotta get the first down so you don't have to punt,
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  Speaker 4: right Like, I get that, but I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like sort of the lack of conversation before
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  Speaker 3: about other coordinator.
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  Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, And I didn't like the lack of urgency
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  Speaker 4: on that either, with you know, the sort of we're
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  Speaker 4: not really in hurry up mode. We have our timeouts,
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  Speaker 4: which he admitted today as part of that answer. But
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  Speaker 4: I would say overall, I I agree with with with
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  Speaker 4: Alex and Fred about you know, I think he's doing
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  Speaker 4: a pretty good job with a young quarterback. And that's
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  Speaker 4: really a number one, that's probably one through five on
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  Speaker 4: my list of priorities. Let's see if you guys can
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  Speaker 4: take care of this young talented kid and make him
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  Speaker 4: better and have him improve week to week. And you
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  Speaker 4: know some of that I like the way he's handled
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  Speaker 4: Drake May and do I agree with a lot of
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  Speaker 4: other things that they've done. No, I don't like the system.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like the you know what they're trying to
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  Speaker 4: do offensively. I don't see a whole ton.
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  Speaker 3: Of creativity there.
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  Speaker 4: But more way more important to me is how Drake
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  Speaker 4: may develops, and I think they've done a good job
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  Speaker 4: with that. I think he should get a big part
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  Speaker 4: of the credit for that.
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  Speaker 3: I think if the season ended today, I would keep
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  Speaker 3: a VP just as much, you know, for continuity as
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  Speaker 3: I think he's doing an okay job, because I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to be this team that with a young quarterback
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  Speaker 3: every year you're giving him a new coordinator and perhaps
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  Speaker 3: new system. You know, I don't want to be in
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  Speaker 3: that cycle. So if I can avoid that, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to avoid it. And you know, right, so, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: right now, if the season ended, I keep him on.
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  Speaker 6: I'm with it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, even if you've got a type pants guy, well, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I got to think about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But but again, so I bring in a type
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  Speaker 3: pants guy if this system is different than we're kind
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  Speaker 3: of starting over. I get it.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard because that's you know, this would be now
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  Speaker 4: five and five years right, you know, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: go mc daniels, Patricia O'Brien, van Pelt and now it's
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  Speaker 4: be a fifth guy in five years. Right in the offense,
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  Speaker 4: it's it should be part of the equation with the
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  Speaker 4: thought process.
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  Speaker 6: Especially when we for so long we like laughed at
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  Speaker 6: the other teams that were just revolving doors for coordinators
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  Speaker 6: because we had these like legends in the building, assistant
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  Speaker 6: coaches for decades, like long, long, long tenures. So it's
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  Speaker 6: like we're not used to that, just like rotation every
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  Speaker 6: other year, and it's just we've seen how stagnant everything's
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  Speaker 6: been because of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know when I see the emails and
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  Speaker 3: we hear the calls, and you know, I listened to
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  Speaker 3: Paul shows, you know, this call of fire, this guy fire,
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  Speaker 3: that guy blow this up, blah blah blah. That's had
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  Speaker 3: a few of those yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's easy. It's easy to do that
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  Speaker 3: when you're two and seven. Everyone should get fired. But
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  Speaker 3: what I hope is that drawd mail really and if
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  Speaker 3: nothing else, is a good evaluator of his of his staff,
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  Speaker 3: and at the end of the season, makes tough decisions
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  Speaker 3: if tough decisions need to be made, and don't worry
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  Speaker 3: about hurting feelings. If there is somebody, you know, an assistant,
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  Speaker 3: a position coach or whatever that he feels he can upgrade,
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  Speaker 3: he needs to make that call. On the same side,
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  Speaker 3: if you know, if someone is you know, in his
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  Speaker 3: mind doing a good job. Don't succumb to the rabble
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  Speaker 3: and support that person. But but look at it, clear eyes,
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  Speaker 3: full heart right, can't lose, can't lose. So that's just
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  Speaker 3: my open.
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  Speaker 4: Tammy Taylor as your wife, can't lose.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know from that, Honey, Britain.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta keep up, you gotta keep up with my crushes,
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  Speaker 4: all right, Okay, Alex new I never.
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  Speaker 3: Watched Friday Night Lights. I heard it was a great show.
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  Speaker 3: Great show.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're a film junkie. I'm surprised in you. You
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  Speaker 6: haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen that. Have you seen the movie?
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  Speaker 6: No movie show.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably why I didn't see the show.
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  Speaker 6: Tell me that's not worse than me not seeing Jaws.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not seeing Jaws is worse. Has so much
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  Speaker 3: time legendary, and that's Jaws came up before you were born.
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  Speaker 4: But Friday Nights, the TV show really has very little
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  Speaker 4: to do with.
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  Speaker 6: For I've never dabbled with the TV TV show.
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  Speaker 3: Is I think it's better than the movie? Absolute? Really? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's rare.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's but it's not the same. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's not really fair. It's not fair as Larry Johnson
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  Speaker 4: used to say, the football the movie is based on
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  Speaker 4: the book, which is real foot like the real Odessa
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  Speaker 4: Permian High School in Texas, and it's based on the
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  Speaker 4: actual team that's more realistic. The TV show sort of
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  Speaker 4: started with that premise but veered into kind of.
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  Speaker 3: A bus Bissinger right, yeah, the author.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it kind of veered into a more of a
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  Speaker 4: soap opera kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, relationships in drama was really really good. So
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  Speaker 3: I guess, I guess my my bottom line message to
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  Speaker 3: everyone is it's really easy to you know, fire everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I asked, we should all just take a step back
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  Speaker 3: and look, you know at the at the gray areas
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  Speaker 3: on the team and and and not just you know,
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  Speaker 3: take the easy way out and see I think the terminal.
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  Speaker 4: You knew that you're going to get me in an argument, right,
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  Speaker 4: you kept you kept talking, You're going to do this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing I would take a little exception to
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  Speaker 4: is like it's really easy to just pull the plug. No,
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  Speaker 4: that's hard. Those are hard decisions when you when you
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  Speaker 4: bring in someone in first year to just I think
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  Speaker 4: the easy thing to do is, you know, it's we
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  Speaker 4: knew that we're going to be bumps in the road.
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  Speaker 3: We knew the roster was was a little short.
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  Speaker 4: Let's give these guys some time. Yeah, that's the easy
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  Speaker 4: thing to do.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's I don't think it's easy
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  Speaker 3: for Draw. I think it's easy for fans to say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: just fire everybody. It's not Draw. That's like I said,
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  Speaker 3: he's going to have to make some tough decisions, and
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  Speaker 3: I hope he does it.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, so you were listening to my shows yesterday, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have heard forty five minutes to you
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  Speaker 3: because I was driving.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well that's most of my appearance. Yeah, there were
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  Speaker 4: a handful of calls, you know, Gide's gotta go. He's
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  Speaker 4: not the guy, and I just, you know, I kind
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  Speaker 4: of snapped back at one of the guys and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, well, what do you know, what were you
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  Speaker 4: expecting going into the season. And I understand there have
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  Speaker 4: been things that you didn't expect that haven't happened, but
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  Speaker 4: do you really think he deserves to lose his job?
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  Speaker 4: And Felger jumps in, he goes I do, and I
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  Speaker 4: kind of snapped because I wasn't expecting that, and he said,
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't really a believer in the higher And I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: now that's a whole different thing exactly. That's a whole
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  Speaker 4: different argument. It's not you didn't think that it was
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  Speaker 4: a good decision to begin with, and nothing has happened
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  Speaker 4: since to change your mind. So I guess I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to argue with Felger if that's how you thought
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  Speaker 4: going in. Yeah, there hasn't really been anything that would
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  Speaker 4: change your mind. But the callers are just like the
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  Speaker 4: off the handle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Gerard because of the way he was hired,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people from the start didn't like the process,
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  Speaker 3: you know, didn't like as u Felger put it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they went on a retreat and Robert Kraft picked his guy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't love I don't love that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't love that. And even if it was how
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  Speaker 6: it happened, I'd wish it wasn't publicized. That's one of
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  Speaker 6: those things I think you can just keep close to
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  Speaker 6: the chest.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think, and I think Kraft had to say, well,
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  Speaker 3: how did you come to the you know, the decision
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  Speaker 3: to hire Gerroid Mao who has never even been a coordinator,
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  Speaker 3: so he had to come up with some story. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I went back at the time and said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was Craft's instincts to hire Belichick, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: those were that was a pretty good decision. He actually
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: he also hired Pete Carroll, which Pete Carroll ended up
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  Speaker 3: being a pretty good coach. So the instincts there that
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  Speaker 3: he could be a head coach were good. He just
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: never gave him a chance. You know, I'm outright saying,
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  Speaker 3: like the ownership here allowed players and coaches to not
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  Speaker 3: respect Pete Carroll the way he should have been respected,
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  Speaker 3: and he didn't have the authority, so he never had
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  Speaker 3: a clear shot. But the decision to make him a
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  Speaker 3: head coach was a good one as well as Belichick.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with that, you know, as well as Belichick.
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  Speaker 3: So and I think there's other things along the line
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  Speaker 3: that he's made good decisions on. So I trusted his
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  Speaker 3: instincts there and we'll see what happens. You know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: Gerard Mayo isn't the guy, but to me, it's way
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  Speaker 3: too early to make that.
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  Speaker 4: And that was the point that I tried to make yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: is just that, you know, let's give.
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  Speaker 3: Him some time.
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  Speaker 4: And I put Elliott Wolf in this too. Let's we
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  Speaker 4: know that they had a lot of areas that they
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  Speaker 4: were going to be woefully short on in terms of personnel,
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  Speaker 4: and now you add into that the predictable you know,
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  Speaker 4: handful of injuries that they've had, and that's really taken
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  Speaker 4: already what was a roster that was lacking at a
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  Speaker 4: lot of spots, and it's made it really that much worse.
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  Speaker 4: Why not give them a little bit of time to
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  Speaker 4: you know, to put in their their system, to lay
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  Speaker 4: the foundation of what they want as a culture in
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  Speaker 4: the locker room. And for Elliott Wolf what he wants
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  Speaker 4: to augment the roster with in terms of talent, he
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  Speaker 4: wants to be a young team, you know, he wants
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  Speaker 4: to develop the draft and developed team. He wants young
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  Speaker 4: players that he can work with and continue to work with.
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  Speaker 4: So you got to give him some time to work
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: with them. You can't just say, well, one year it
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: didn't work, you know, we got to pull the plug.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think as soon as the season ends,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: the clock is ticking and from that point on, it's
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: not gonna be what Juradd says, or how poorly or
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: well he says it. It's gonna be his actions. You know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: what are they going to do as soon as the
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: season ends to make this team better and just to
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: you know, rebuilding two point zero And that's where I'm
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: gonna judge him, is what he does after this season,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you know, so absolutely, especially with Elliott Wolf. Yeah, he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: another one.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Now there was you know, you can sort of pick at,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: like other elements of the structure and how everything was
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: put together here. And I'm in agreement with you, Freddy
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: and Alex about time, you know, give them, give them
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: a little bit of time. I was a little skeptical
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: way back when this was announced, when Elliott Wolf's sort
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: of promotion was announced. Remember he said that he was
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: in charge of the fifty three yep, right, And I said,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I think that that's a problem or a potential problem.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: And did you hear even today with some of the
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: the you know, the comments that Alex van Pelt hadled
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Elliott Yeah, you know, being part of the decision process
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: on and there was some good questions being asked, like
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: the fine line between trying everything in your power to
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: put your team in the best position to win that
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: particular game and getting some young players some experience, some
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: time figuring out where they fit in, you know, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: obviously Van Pelt's talking about guys like Baker Polk, the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: two you know, Robinson he used specifically as an offensive lineman.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: And well, how do those conversations go? You know, is
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: it you with the wide receivers?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Coaches?
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: And you know, and then he said in Jordan and Elliott,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that. Elliott has to say is
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: who's on the field. I mean, he's involved, but like
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: and I don't have any problem with him being involved.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: My question is who has the final say, And as
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: long as it's Gerard, I'm good.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I totally agree. I just don't I
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: think that if you want to set it up this way,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: the general manager picks the players, this is what you
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: have to work with, you have to let the coaches
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: just do it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I agree, and I agree, I don't. I don't know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Like to me, there's there's room there for conflict.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Well, you're creating the reason why it kind of stood
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: out to me and maybe it was the same as
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: you is he made sure that he included Elliott like
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: toward the end, like you know, like.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, because the question was about is it you with
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: you know, is it Tyler Hughes is the wide receiver?
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: You and Tyler and you know in Gerard and then
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, no, those are collaborative, it's you know.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: And then he added and he like, no one had
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: brought up Elliott Will's name.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: He threw it in there, right, So that made you,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: that made you think about it. But I agree like.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: And you know me, I'm often concerned about things well
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: in advance of when you should be concerned about them.
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: That's just my to me.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Once spring practices start, the fifty three should be in
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: should be Gerrod Mail, He should go to you at times,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: hey we need to upgrade this position. Who's out there?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: But Gerard should be in charge of the fifty three
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: once it's settled, once he has it, you know, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: obviously on game day that's all Gerard as well. That's
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, that's how it should work.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: So yeah, well, I didn't mean bring everybody down.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: No, it's fine, it's just bringing up a point. But
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: you heard it. I'm glad you were in.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: See Fred wasn't in to make sure that everybody was
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: on their toes today out Yeah, well.
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: You got to.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: You had a clock comments like that, and I don't know.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: This is something I've been pondering for a little while
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: that you guys made me think of. But I know
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: it's like the butterfly effect and everything, and you can't
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: really predict the injuries we had. But at the time,
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: moving Matt Judon just felt really bad to me. I thought,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: he's a guy that wanted to be here. He's a
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: big energy guy. You got rid of Lawrence guy like
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: those moves at the time didn't didn't really feel like
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: they were going to be detrimental. But now we're looking
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: at our run defense and we're looking at Okay, we
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: don't have Judon anymore. We got rid of Uce, another
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: guy that actually wanted to be here. By all accounts,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: I think are pretty good influences on the young guys
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: that you're trying to lift up and build a culture,
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: and then by either trade or injury or legal issues,
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: you lose these culture guys that are kind of setting
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: that tone for the group you're trying to bring in
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: and build up. And maybe they wanted to get away
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: from the way they were playing defense at the time,
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: But I thought we were pretty good with defense last year,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: and I think if we had this team that we
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: do in our right now and our only issue really
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: was building around Drake May and we didn't have any
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: of the other defensive issues that none of us really anticipated,
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: I wonder what situation we would be in because Drake
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: May is the quarterback that we've seen that in a
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: couple plays he can put together a drive to put
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: this team ahead. And I if the other side of
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: the ball wasn't so dysfunctional unpredictably, would this be a fun,
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: frisky team making a push like to string together wins
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: at the end of a season and attract more talent,
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: attract receivers that want to be part of that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'll agree with you this. If this defense
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: was as good as a lot of people thought it
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: was last year, except for Paul, I think you'd be right.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I think these games would be a lot more interesting.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Judon, though, if I can have
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Judon from two years ago, I'm with you, yeah, But
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at what he's done in Atlanta and
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: you got a third and he was you know, he
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: was disgruntled and all that stuff, and maybe they knew
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit more about where his level of play
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: was at than we did, and so I can't say
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: now that, oh we should have kept Judon. No, we
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: got a third. I think it was pretty good compensation
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: for a guy like that, and he's done squat in Atlanta.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I like the trade because of the compensation. But I
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: understand I'm taking it from the side that Alex is
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: putting it on.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: There's intangibles.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: It's not just like they also.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Team and that was like Leo not.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: To get into the zodiacs, but like that's an ego,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: that's a fire that like gts under other guys, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: they just were so tight knit and they love to
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: be around each other, and I think there's something to
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: be said for that chemistry.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think that it's also one of the
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: thinnest positions that on the roster edge edge, like he's
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: kind of one of one. Yeah, you know, I'll call
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: a half and no. But like when he was really successful,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: it was when Judon was on the other side. Then
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: last year when Judon only played four games, Usha was
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: kind of invisible. So you you lost like one and
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: a half players when you traded Judon, and you didn't
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: really have anything, you know, in the pipeline to replace them.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I agree with Fred. I think it was a good trade.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I don't think you were gonna I don't think Judoon
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: was going to be part of anything you were gonna
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: do successfully. And I think if Judah was here playing
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: at his peak, they'd be two and seven. I really,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I really believe that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: You know that. I believe that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I think that they're short on so many different areas.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: They would have a hard time. They would have a
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: hard time with or without him. But Lawrence Guy, Matthew Judon,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: maybe if you lost the other guys that you've lost,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't be as big of a problem defensively.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying it. Guy at the time
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: was like, Okay, they have Barmore, Like it's gonna be
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: fine right now, Barmos, Like you know what I mean.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: It's just that's what I mentioned about like the butterfly.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: So here's the question that obviously there's no right answer to.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: But had they known that they was gonna they were
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: gonna lose Bentley, and they were gonna lose Peppers, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: they're gonna lose Barmore, Well, they knew that Barbara was
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: out at that time when they traded Judon, Oh they did, Okay,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: oh never mind.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Well just just barmore the rest of its right, But
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: all these.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Other guys, you know, would they been as have been
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: as willing to get rid of Judan or I've heard
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: people say this. They knew they weren't going to do
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: much this year, you know, and winning a couple extra
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: games with Judon wasn't gonna that doesn't move the needle
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: for them. The third is more valuable at this point
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: because they just knew this was not going to be
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: a season where wins are going to be that important.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: It's going to be who's who are we going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: keep for the future in the development of Drake May
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: That's the two most important things for this season. And
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: so then they were more willing to give up a
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: guy like Juden.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I get the one.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: It's all hindsight, but you just like, I don't know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: I guess a couple more wins this year in the
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: grand scheme of things like who cares you want the
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: draft pick anyways, But what it does for the morale
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: of the guys, Like I think back to Detroit a
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: couple of years ago when they no one cared about Detroit.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: They weren't really great, and they went on like a
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: little run at the end of the season and they
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: were fun and exciting and then their success just propelled
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: from there. And that's like a perfect scenario for me
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: with this team, to just catch fire at the end
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: of the season, get people excited, and what does that do?
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: What does that attract?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: But the difference, I would say, and I love that
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Lions comparison. A lot of people have been talking about
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: it lately. The difference is it was more like to
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: me the ninety three one that we use Mike, you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and Mike's here, everybody see wicked, wicked, handsome Mic.
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: We'll right into.
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: It, all right, all right, friendly, I can't.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: What was it like?
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: So catchy?
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: This one?
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Watching is the best one? Watching? Matt. As soon as
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Mike sat down, he was.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: Just waiting, I said, was going on, I get the
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: song ready, And I was like, do you think there's
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: ever like smoke in the mix? Like maybe get a
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: little you know, the smoke comes in?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe not.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: I'm glad for the studio. No, I don't want to
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: jump on.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: We talk about the ninety three to one, like I
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: think the Detroit one is similar and the just the Fred.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: You probably are not as aware of the actual numbers
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: that Alex is talking about. Dan Campbell's first year, Jared
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Gross's first year, they were winless after like eleven games,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: and they went three and three down the stretch, So
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: they ended up going three thirteen and one, and you're like, oh, okay,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: well whatever, But like they had shown some signs of improvement.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: It was a very young team that was playing. It
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: wasn't like, oh, we won a couple of games because
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Matthew Judo and Lawrence guy was still here and they're
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: not going to be here next year anyway, do you
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: know what?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Like that to me's the difference. They won. They they
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: they want the guys who are likely to be there.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: They drafted very well, and those guys started to play.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Then they drafted very well again, and they augmented those
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: young guys with more young guys, and now all of
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: a sudden, those young guys aren't so young anymore, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: you're want of the best teams in the LEM mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: you could make a case that Detroit is the best
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: team in the league right now. That to me is different,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that for those reasons, I would
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: have gotten rid of everybody, but whether they won another
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: couple of games, and I don't believe that would have
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: been the case, especially as Fred says, I haven't really
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: been following Atlanta, you know, with Judon, Fred says, he's
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: done nothing for the Falcons. I don't think he would
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: have been worth a couple of wins anyway. And even
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: if he was, I don't necessarily think that helps build
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: your culture as much as people think because they're not here.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Like if the young guys step in, if Keyon White
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you know, proves that he can
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: be something more than just kind of a high motor
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: interior guy, you know, he turns into like a really
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: disrupted force on a down by you know, down after
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: down basis, that's worth a lot more than a win
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: or two.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Do you think bomb and we'll get to you in
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a sec. But you hold on time. Do you think
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: bar Moore, if he's you know, if obviously, if he's
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: you know, clear to go, is it worth for him
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: to get in for the last two or three games
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: or should he just wait till next year?
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: I think I think for what Alex was saying, I
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: think he can give you a spark. He can he
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: can help, you know, get that thing that she was,
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: you know, just talking about. It's great topic though, Like
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, just to jump into my little report here,
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: because this is exactly what Jonathan Jones said, you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: was asked two and seven, is it hard to stay motivated?
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: And he said, it's a different vibe right now. He said,
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of young guys on the team, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: they're all hungry still. And he said, a couple of
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: years ago, in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, when
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: it started not going so good, you had some veterans.
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: He kind of trailed off there, and but the you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: the implication was that veterans used to winning, when it
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: starts to go bad, those are the guys you kind
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: of lose. Whereas right now, like Alex was saying, you
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: have a litt little bit of a young team, a
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: little bit of a young spark, and these guys they
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: just want to get back on the field, They want
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: to perform, they want to get another chance to go
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: out there and show what they can do. So I
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: do think it feeds into what you know, you guys
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: are saying, and that it could line up a vote
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: a confidence for this team that they're headed in the
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: right direction, that this coaching staff can pull them together.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: And I would imagine for young guys who just in
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: the league, who haven't experience winning, a guy like Devin mccordy,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: who great guy of course, puts a different type of
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: pressure on them than they're feeling right now, you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and it's a guy like you know, he knows how
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to do it and what it takes to win. And
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: maybe that kind of pressure isn't what they need right now.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: You know, they need the more development pressure, more individual
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: pressure your game, not the overall team, but you need
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: to get better, not you know what I mean.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: J Javon Baker. They need to show that they're NFL
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: players right right, Like that's their pressure, Yeah, establishing themselves
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: as players in this league.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: I give it Fret saying though, where it seems like
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: that team and guys would come in it's like the
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: standard is super Bowl. That's the standard around here.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of unrealistic right now.
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: That's unrealistic, you know that. And I mean it's hard
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: because you want to still have high standards and expect
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: that the guys can, you know, maybe not play on
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: that level, but they know that what they have to
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: do to get there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: But there's about ten they're having some flexibility.
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Without feeling like, oh God, if I don't you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: play right, I'm going to derail this whole ship. It's
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: everybody understands where they're at right now.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for bar more specifically in your question, like it's
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: all funny, I think you and I had this conversation
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: off air the other day, Right, Mike, it has to
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: be one hundred percent about the health. So I have
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: to think that they're not even contemplating this unless there's
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: like one hundred percent certainty on the doctors that whatever
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: they've done to alleviate the problem has been done and successful. Right,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: otherwise you're not even talking about it. But if that's
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: all happened, and I don't know that it has, I'm
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: just like Gerrod keeps saying, it's closer. It kind of
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: confuses me closer to what though exactly like, yeah, to me,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: either a blood clot problem is resolved or it isn't. Yeah,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you get close to being resolved.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Well, but but but even once the blood clot thing
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: is resolved, there's getting your strength back and getting into
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: football shape. Yeah, I just don't think that there's time.
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: He's been around a lot. I mean, I don't know what.
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: I don't know spend point, but you see him around
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: a lot. I mean I know, initially a few weeks
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: didn't see him around all, and then all of a
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: sudden he's kind of in the locker room. Hey, it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: good to see him. But now it seems like whenever
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: we're going out to practice or and he's around working
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: out too. I mean, I don't know how close it
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: is to real.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: How does it look, you know, like does he look
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: bigger or smaller? Looks to me? Same?
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I mean I would say that if everything medically is
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: on board, I would absolutely bring him back and play,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: even if just for another gamer, just.
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: To prove to the player that he can come back.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: To that point if he comes back for the last
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: two or three games and all of a sudden because
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: he's there, key on White, Yeah, like that's exciting, that's exciting. Okay,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: I agree. Two guys in the inside that can cause
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: consistent disruption. I mean it's you.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Know, it'll be the run game looks better.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: I don't know what this team's gonna look like next year.
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: The will obviously be you know, some changes in additions
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: and stuff. But I would say the key on White,
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: Christian Barmore of it all that is intriguing to me,
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: and that's, you know, something to build around for this defense.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, what else from the locker room.
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we heard from Antonio Gibson. We heard from Trey Jacobs. Uh,
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: you know, he was he was funny. You know, everybody's
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: got to ask him about the last play with you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: with Drake. He called it the last play, like we
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: don't we're just gonna ignore.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: What happened over time.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: But but he said, that is what Patriots fanish.
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: He was like, I didn't even know we threw it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Like I was like, I saw he threw it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: I didn't know.
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: Remondra had caught it. So all those guys were just,
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: you know, really impressed with with Drake. You can see
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: he's having an impact on these guys and they have
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: that kind of because shake their head like yeah, like man,
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: that's a good play. Antonio Gibson a little quiet, reserved.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: I don't know, I just he's you know, I mean
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: some pointed questions credit, you know, to our friend Taylor
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: Kyle said, you know, you've been kind of known for
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: your pass catching skill third down back. You haven't really
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: gotten involved in that this year, And he talked a
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: lot about you know, I'm just I'm trying to what
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: was the word he said, I'm trying to change up
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: how I'm doing things a little bit.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: He was implying that he had to make changes. Didn't
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: get into too much to Yeah, yeah, so I don't know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: there was a little something going on there, maybe beneath
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: the surface with him. I mean, I think we all
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: are kind of like curious with Paul You've mentioned when
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: he got in there for Ronde a couple of weeks ago.
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: We haven't really seen much of him. I know he's
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: had an injury as well that he's dealing with. But
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: but yeah, those were those were the three guys we
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: heard from Jay Jones. You know, Jones just got such
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: a perspective from a guy that's been here, and you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: I just I do think that was the most interesting
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: comment to me though, is that it's just a different
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: vibe right now at two and seven.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Then were you win the locker room or the video room? Well,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I do both. Fred.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: I make sure I make sure I get in and
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: get a feel because you know, I don't know. You
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: might ask me what the mood in the locker room
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: was like, and I want to have an answer. A
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: little quieter in the locker room today though little not
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: not as many people going on. So I got all
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: the interviews in the revistable locker room, and then I
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: just go in and get the vibes. He with the
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: small press, let's say smaller, definitely noticed that people today, Yeah,
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: counted there?
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: What was?
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: What?
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: What do we do?
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: The honor to you attending? The coordinators?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Well you missed my opening monologue. I have to watch
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I watch them that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: I always rewatch them evaluate my perform performance.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I've definitely noticed the media contingent is getting.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Smaller and smaller. Tighten it up, you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Know, especially you know Wednesday is generally regular and then
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Thursday Friday, get the quarterback tails off a little bit.
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: Quarterback and the coach and yeah tomorrow will be dead.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Had a game last night, so Celtics game.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: To yeah, yeah, well yeah, poor Jeremy Springer. He goes
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: at one thirty on Fridays now, and it's like, carare
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: interest time of the NBA regular season game last night.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: If I heard you weren't there to boost Steve Kerr, No,
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: but were you? You're just probably bulling him through your TV.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: I would imagine I was so lame yesterday. I fell
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: sleep so early. I think I fell asleep in the
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: second quarter of that game. Too much pickleball, too much
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: pickleball military, kind of a pick a ball hater. Honestly,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: I'm in Fred's camp like it's it's for like non
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: athletic people that don't want to play.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of the whole point.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: I don't like the dumbing down of hate.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like the dumbing down in the the
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: watering down of tennis like.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Tennis, if you can play tennis.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Scar loves this event, So I love this event. Scar
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: has shoes for pickleball. He has like a whole little outfall.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: They've got the special playing.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: With Ray Kwan McMillan. At first he was playing against
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: him and I was like, Oh, this that's intimidating. But
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: then now they're on the same team and I'm like
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: that's more intimidating. And I'm watching guns coach up and
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: teach them the rules pickball as they're playing, they're.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Letting me down. Dante probably makes his own paddle right right, right?
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: You should have you ever played? No, I've never played either.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I've played next, I've played tennis next to a pickleball court.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Now, were you one of those that gets really I mean,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: obviously you don't like the sports.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I don't get annoyed.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Like if you lived next to a park, would you,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: you know, would you call a nine one one?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: There's a lady in the town that I live in
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: who she lives close to the beach, I guess or
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: something like that. But there's a pickle ball court next
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: to her house and she claims she's been trying to
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: sell her house for a year and she can't sell
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: it because of the pickleball.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: That's I'm calling bs. Of course, there's no inventory on
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: Cape Cod, right that would get bought up before it
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: went tomorrow.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Well, she's probably asking too much, you know, well, considering
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: it's next to a pickleball right, I've never I've never played,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: but I would think that would be something I could play.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: A little bit like I couldn't like it because they drink.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I could never.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Play tennis because of my achilles.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: That's one of the.
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: Sports, like tennis without the running.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: That's one of the sports that they that doctor said specifically.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: Although they're getting active, like that's great, that's wonderful, But
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: it's when you're taking existing tennis courts and making them
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: ball courts is.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: When I have so I I'm not so. I'm not
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: mad about that. It's just the sword itself.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I look down.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: I feel like it's just like private equity threw a
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: bunch of money into it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: And all of a sudden back in the day, you know,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I remember when racquetball started getting huged and in indoor courts.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: They were taking away indoor tennis courts and turning them
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: into racquetball courts.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: I totally remember the racquetball things.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a craze. And then outdoors paddle ball
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: they called it, which was a lot like pickle ball,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: except it was in a cage. That started getting some popularity.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: So there's always been offshoots that have come up and on.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I expect this one to fade out in about five years,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: you know, but surprisingly you know you say, oh, it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: easier because you don't have to run around. I talked
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: to a doctor, said there's still a lot of pickleball injuries,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: like you know, people in their seventies who forget their
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: seventy and they're pulling achilles and hamstrings.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: It's a shorter court and there's it's less of a
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: distance to travel, so it's like you have to quickly exactly,
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: you have to move quicker, and there's more lateral movement
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: in pickleball.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: There's certainly like I like I said, I look down
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: on the sport, but there's still a lot of hand eye,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: you know, huge amount of hand eye and quickness that
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: goes into it. You know, like guys like John McEnroe
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: are playing like celebrity and he's really good at it
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: because he was a great net player when it came
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: to tennis and his hand eye, his you know, he's
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: so quick. It translated right to the pickle ball courl
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I think, I can you have to.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: I have to tell you, you're making me very nervous
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: with that open bottle of soda as you're moving your hand.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: My hand christ either very very worried. All right, I'm
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: very very concerned mother.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: But I yeah, the pickleball thing, you know, I don't.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I don't see it. No, I don't see tennis forever,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: like the hand eye think. I think that would I
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: would excel at that. Yeah, man, but the quickness thing.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I'm even resisting the social doubles of tennis, like I
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: refuse to play doubles. You're purest No, No, it's not
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: that I'm a purist social. It's not giving in yet.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I'm still singles until I can't. You know, I'm not.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I got news for you.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I saw you play Indian San Diego.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Fifteen years ago. I beat him. Shouldn't be doing that anymore.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I beat him.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: It's great for longevity. That's sport for longevity.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: It is. It's a great golf.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: No bracket sports are number one. There was a study
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: reason to play golf.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: You can, but it doesn't make you healthy.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for your longevity.
• 41:19
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Oh, I thought you mad to play long because
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: it's really like the course at Living I thought I misunderstood.
• 41:28
  Speaker 11: I thought by longevity you meant play You can.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Play a long Yeah.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: Anyone can ride around in a car and get out.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: You don't have to ride around.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: I know. But people do because they're lazy.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: People do and some people actually some courses require it
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: now to play generally and money.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the private courses, not another courses.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I play all right. Uh eight five five PATS five
• 41:53
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• 42:17
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• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Alex runs fast and loose with the journalistic rules and
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: just makes crap up.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: So you're watching, I know I'm not on the show. Well,
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: I've been listening to the shows every day to put
• 42:31
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• 42:33
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• 42:35
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• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Oh no, they're not a straight so anything shot.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: I thought I thought Paul was an all. I thought
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• 42:47
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• 42:58
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• 43:03
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• 43:07
  Speaker 3: let's get to the phones, Melvin's and Tennessee.
• 43:09
  Speaker 12: What's up Melvin going on?
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Hey?
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: Hey, my question is too much about the Patriots, But
• 43:18
  Speaker 12: with uh, I guess other teams outside of the chief
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: I know, like what the writings in general, since that
• 43:27
  Speaker 12: they've been playing well, but sometimes court I don't know
• 43:30
  Speaker 12: if I get them my own there, but since last year,
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: I can't really always like, by the way, believe in them.
• 43:35
  Speaker 12: I think they're gonna possibly when they get in the playoffs,
• 43:39
  Speaker 12: have one of those you know they file apart seem like.
• 43:43
  Speaker 12: But any team that you all have outside of the
• 43:46
  Speaker 12: Chiefs that you all feel confident that this could be
• 43:49
  Speaker 12: the year that they finally get up to hunt well,
• 43:51
  Speaker 12: you know, represent the aft.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: For the particularly Yeah, I know I had Baltimore and Buffalo.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Baltimore and Buffalo, but you know, Paul mentioned like
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Detroit is probably right now, could be the best team
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, and I think all these other teams,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: even Kansas City being undefeated in Baltimore, they have flaws.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: You know. Kansas City's offense hasn't looked like it's been
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: in the in the past, and then Baltimore's defense. But
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: seems like Detroit is playing the best all around football
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Ye know they I think they're playing the best. I
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: would have worries about their defense long term, Like I
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: don't think their defense is very good.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Now it's played pretty well.
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's what they just added, uh Zidarius right, Yeah.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Really good move to replace Aiden Hutchinson.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if there's a one team that could
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: in the AFC that can beat the Chiefs, it's gonna
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: be Buffalo. I think I like Buffalo's chances.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I like Buffalo's chances better because I think that they've
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: played very well against Kansas City. I know they've lost
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs, but they played more like themselves again
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: and they beat them in the regular season. They've played Baltimore,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: seems like they have a mental block with Kansas City.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: They don't they don't beat them regular season. They don't
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: beat that chance week one, you know, so I think
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: if you're asking me what I think the best team
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: is Melvin in the AFC, I think it's Baltimore. I
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: think they have the best talent in the AFC. We'll
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: see if they can get over the hump.
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean I wouldn't sleep on Sincy too either.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: I think they're just team you don't really want to
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: play in the playoffs.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think they're going to get there.
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: I don't think they get to the playoffs.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: I mean they could because obviously that's you know, the
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: sixth and seventh, those those last it's going to be
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: a nine and eight team probably, you know, you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Have to Well, they got a big game this week. Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: tonight tonight, tonight tonight. Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?
• 45:41
  Speaker 13: Hey guys, Hi, how are you doing?
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: Hi?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Todd Man.
• 45:46
  Speaker 13: So, I talked with John Rook yesterday on his show,
• 45:49
  Speaker 13: and he said he's known a VP for all a
• 45:52
  Speaker 13: VP's sports plays, So he followed him in high school,
• 45:55
  Speaker 13: he was reporting on him and through college and all
• 45:58
  Speaker 13: the rest of it. He said he feels that a
• 46:01
  Speaker 13: VP is being held back, that he's not being allowed
• 46:04
  Speaker 13: to use his knowledge because he said he's brilliant. He
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: says he talked Tom, he's known him, he's a friend,
• 46:12
  Speaker 13: and the guy can just you know, know sports, you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 13: it's football.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Did he cite any evidence for your take on there, Well,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: that's before my take. Did John Rook cite any evidence
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: for why he thinks he's being held back?
• 46:27
  Speaker 13: Well, he seemed to think that he wasn't being allowed
• 46:30
  Speaker 13: to be creative. And he said that Alex dun Pelt
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: is very creative and has very you know, he can
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: do schemes, he's got really great ideas and that you know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 13: falling throughout his career. He talked to him, and he's
• 46:41
  Speaker 13: known him for such a long time, and he sees
• 46:43
  Speaker 13: that he's just not being allowed to, you know, give
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: the complexity or the creativity to the to the offense.
• 46:50
  Speaker 13: And I'm I was kind of flabbergasted when he said
• 46:53
  Speaker 13: that to me, and I didn't I couldn't see it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: But I don't know enough. I really don't know enough
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: about coaching and that whole ideology of building an offense
• 47:03
  Speaker 13: to be able to you know, prose that that. So
• 47:06
  Speaker 13: I thought, maybe if you guys Eanly be here can
• 47:09
  Speaker 13: help with this cussion a little bit.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. I mean, I mean, you
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: say that he's a close friend of his, So again,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: there's a filter there that he's looking through. The Other
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: thing is that would make me dubious about it is
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: AVP has been around for quite a.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: While and no one's ever given him that kind of lad.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Of exactly well, not not only that kind of latitude,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: but he hasn't earned that type of uh, you know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: reputation as being a creative offense.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is he's been in coaching for
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: twenty years, right, and no one's ever even allowed him
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: to call plays, let alone design and offense. So is
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: everybody just sort of missing the boat on Alex van Pelt?
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Right? Maybe?
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: And I'm not telling you that, Todd. I have no idea.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. They could be yeah, yeah, and I.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Have John might John might be one thousand percent right,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: I have no idea. I'm just saying. So Green Bay
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: didn't want him to advise the offense. Thanks, thanks, Cleveland
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: didn't want him to since I didn't want him to.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: But everybody's just sort of holding him back to Bendrends.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like he came in. He came into this job
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: with kind of the reputation of being an understudy all
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: his all his life.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Now drew Bledsoe is another guy who speaks ridiculously highly
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: of Alex van Pelt. They were teammates in Buffalo. He
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: thinks he's going to do a really, really good job.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: But these guys know one like, I mean, Fred started
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: off before you got him Mike out, you know, so
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: you don't have to go back and listen to appreciate
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Fred was Fred sort of likes listening to Alex man
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Pell thinks he presents well, and I would agree. I
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: think every week I think he comes across very well.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: So these are people that like him and are impressed
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: by him. So, like that doesn't necessarily mean he's great, yeah,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: just because you know he has really I.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Talked to one person who thought that over the years
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: he's been a little bit discriminated against because of the
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: way he looks, he's a little heavier. But I don't
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: see that. A lot of facts, there's been a lot
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: of you know, Andy Reid and Mike holm Grin and
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Charlie Weiss. You know, I don't see Mike McCarthy, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: somebody actually did say that. I'm not making it up.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, Mike McDaniel is like one hundred and fifty pounds.
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: I think I go that way.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: You know, I'd rather I can put.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: If you're having and if you can't wear tight pants,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: then it's got no use for you, right.
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: You got to be skinny to wear tight pants, not
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: you're too big and the pants are naturally tight. It's
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: a little difference there.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Marquees in Philadelphia. What's up, Marquis?
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: Hey?
• 49:41
  Speaker 14: It was going on Big Watcher. I love you guys, man,
• 49:45
  Speaker 14: I asked your questions. So yesterday someone talked about how
• 49:49
  Speaker 14: we were doing seven in comparison to you yesterday, I
• 49:51
  Speaker 14: mean the last year, and I talked about this my
• 49:54
  Speaker 14: podcast as well, and I think this two and seven
• 49:57
  Speaker 14: is a lot better because, for one, we actually have
• 50:00
  Speaker 14: a quarterback. We look forward to watching Black Ship. We
• 50:03
  Speaker 14: weren't very watchable and years before not very watchable, honestly,
• 50:08
  Speaker 14: so I think this year is much better. We have
• 50:10
  Speaker 14: something to look forward to. And then as one of
• 50:12
  Speaker 14: the players that we do have since the deadline set,
• 50:15
  Speaker 14: I think their job is now just to show their
• 50:18
  Speaker 14: best foot And also my second question is, well, also,
• 50:24
  Speaker 14: how do you pull? That's the big question. And then
• 50:26
  Speaker 14: my second question is this roster that we talk about
• 50:30
  Speaker 14: how bad it is. It's really bad like what we
• 50:32
  Speaker 14: see week the week, but on paper, and it's healthy.
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: I think this team could possibly be like four and three.
• 50:38
  Speaker 14: And I think that if we were healthy, we wouldn't
• 50:41
  Speaker 14: be talking as bad about the team Drake May or
• 50:43
  Speaker 14: the receivers if we had to help around them. Tatty
• 50:47
  Speaker 14: got put about that blow.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Mikey.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: So I would ask you know, in that scenario, is everybody.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Else healthy too?
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Like, so did you play Tua and not Tyler Huntley?
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: Like that?
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: All that stuff matters, like because that was a game
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: that you could have won. But they averaged twenty seven
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: points a game when Tua plays like not the fifteen
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: that they scored the day that they played you without him.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: So I would say that the premise of what Marquise
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: said I would agree with because of Drake May, he
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: has been more exciting. Yes, the bottom lineer is the
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: offense isn't better. The offense what isn't better than it
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: was with Brissett, And it isn't better than it was
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's bad.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: But I like watching Drake may play more than mac Jones.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, because last year it got to the point that
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: you just knew they weren't going to have any success
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: on offense. And at least I guess it's a mental thing.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: But but I don't know what I'm going to get
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: because this is right?
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: So what so far right anymore? Yeah, but he's more
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: exciting to watch, you know, he's capable of more's he's
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: a dual threat, so he has our interest for now
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: because we want to see what will happen. So I
• 52:02
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  Speaker 17: So as always, you know, Wind's a draw on Wednesdays
• 53:49
  Speaker 17: is all about changing the page. You know, my message
• 53:51
  Speaker 17: to the team today is really just about a sense
• 53:54
  Speaker 17: of urgency, a sense of urgency and everything that we do.
• 53:57
  Speaker 17: We have a huge test coming up, another road game,
• 54:00
  Speaker 17: going out to Chicago. It's always exciting, at least for
• 54:03
  Speaker 17: me personally to go to a stadium, you know, like
• 54:05
  Speaker 17: our team, you know, play against a team like Chicago
• 54:08
  Speaker 17: because of the history and the great players that have
• 54:10
  Speaker 17: come way before me or before the guys in the
• 54:13
  Speaker 17: locker room, you know, offensively, for these guys, you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 17: let's start with the quarterback. He's a He's a very
• 54:19
  Speaker 17: good player. Like this guy is able to extend plays.
• 54:22
  Speaker 17: He's very athletic. You know, I watch him a little bit,
• 54:25
  Speaker 17: you know, coming out and then you know, really just
• 54:28
  Speaker 17: diving into the tape.
• 54:29
  Speaker 18: This guy is very athletic. He's elusive.
• 54:32
  Speaker 17: He has great vision in the pocket, and I would
• 54:34
  Speaker 17: say he scrambles more to make mcthrows, not as much
• 54:38
  Speaker 17: on the other side. You know, you go against some
• 54:39
  Speaker 17: quarterbacks in there, they'll take off and get down the field.
• 54:42
  Speaker 17: Not saying that he doesn't do that, but he definitely
• 54:45
  Speaker 17: does a good job keeping his eyes down the field
• 54:47
  Speaker 17: and making those throws. Talking about you know, just some
• 54:50
  Speaker 17: of their skill positions. Skill positions they have, you know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 17: receivers that are very good players. It's a mix, a
• 54:58
  Speaker 17: combination of young and old. I would say on the team,
• 55:00
  Speaker 17: you got a guy like a Dunes, you know, who's
• 55:03
  Speaker 17: a rookie. A lot of us liked him coming out.
• 55:06
  Speaker 17: And then you also have Mercedes Lewis who's still going.
• 55:09
  Speaker 17: You know, this is like you're nineteen for a guy
• 55:11
  Speaker 17: like that. So when you talk about a mix of
• 55:13
  Speaker 17: older young players, there are definitely two extremes. And even
• 55:17
  Speaker 17: talking about Mercedes, he's still doing a good job in
• 55:19
  Speaker 17: his role and his role right now is to go
• 55:21
  Speaker 17: out there and move bodies, and he does a good
• 55:23
  Speaker 17: job there. As far as the back concerned, you know,
• 55:26
  Speaker 17: explosive all had to be at the point of attack,
• 55:28
  Speaker 17: and you know it starts upfront with us. As far
• 55:31
  Speaker 17: as the one game is concerned defensively, you know, obviously
• 55:36
  Speaker 17: they put Billings on ir which is a loss for them.
• 55:39
  Speaker 17: And saying that, they definitely still have a lot of
• 55:42
  Speaker 17: players on the field that have played a lot of football.
• 55:44
  Speaker 17: And I've played at a high level for an extended
• 55:46
  Speaker 17: period of time. Special teams good in all the phases.
• 55:50
  Speaker 17: It's going to be a challenge for us, our special
• 55:52
  Speaker 17: teams unit, I should say, an opportunity for them to
• 55:54
  Speaker 17: go out there and really you know, strength some games
• 55:57
  Speaker 17: together as far as special teams play is concerned. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 17: look forward to those guys preparing today today full padded practice.
• 56:03
  Speaker 17: We're gonna go out there and we're gonna you know,
• 56:05
  Speaker 17: we talked about the sense of urgency this morning and
• 56:08
  Speaker 17: really going out there and competing and hopefully that carries
• 56:10
  Speaker 17: over to the game.
• 56:12
  Speaker 10: Rod, you guys are obviously very involved in the quarterback
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: draft market this past spring. Curious how much like actual
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: like one on one contact you have with Caleb Williams
• 56:22
  Speaker 10: during that process.
• 56:24
  Speaker 17: A lot for me personally, Uh, you know, not much
• 56:27
  Speaker 17: for me, you know, I think it was pretty clear
• 56:30
  Speaker 17: cut that he was going to be the first pick overall. Now,
• 56:32
  Speaker 17: not speaking for the scouting department, I know they've done
• 56:34
  Speaker 17: all their research and they had multiple interactions with Caleb
• 56:39
  Speaker 17: on your team.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Any chance to see far.
• 56:43
  Speaker 14: More today at practice is very much Kayden Wallace.
• 56:47
  Speaker 18: The three of those they won't be a practice today.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Drug will you consider making changes on your coaching staff
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: or as a situation where you'd like to see this
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: group stick together through the post.
• 56:56
  Speaker 17: I would say, look, we all have to get better,
• 56:58
  Speaker 17: and it starts, you know, with me, and it starts
• 57:00
  Speaker 17: with the coaches and that's part of uh, that's part
• 57:03
  Speaker 17: of coming together as a staff. So we all have
• 57:05
  Speaker 17: to we all have to get better. We all want
• 57:07
  Speaker 17: to win games, and we need to win games now.
• 57:08
  Speaker 17: And I think you know, the sense of urgency message
• 57:11
  Speaker 17: wasn't just for the players.
• 57:12
  Speaker 18: It's also for the coaches.
• 57:13
  Speaker 17: And you know, nothing in this in this world, no
• 57:16
  Speaker 17: matter who you are, myself included, is guaranteed.
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: To far more and strange.
• 57:20
  Speaker 19: The fact that they haven't another deals all season really
• 57:23
  Speaker 19: so it's it's ring and summer. Is their value in
• 57:26
  Speaker 19: them coming back is maybe forward the indor different tact
• 57:28
  Speaker 19: if this is week tend or would you welcome them
• 57:31
  Speaker 19: back pretty much.
• 57:32
  Speaker 17: Any passage, Yeah, we would always welcome them back. And again,
• 57:35
  Speaker 17: like whether we're talking about free agency or trade deadline
• 57:38
  Speaker 17: or anything, we're always trying to improve as a team
• 57:39
  Speaker 17: and sometimes they are under your own roof tree.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Right line comes and goes, yesterday, that comes and goes,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: nothing happens.
• 57:49
  Speaker 19: Did you feel like you guys were close to adding
• 57:52
  Speaker 19: good players just mentioned or was there you know, is
• 57:55
  Speaker 19: there anything?
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 57:57
  Speaker 17: You know the one thing about the trade deadline. I
• 57:59
  Speaker 17: talked about this on Monday, at least in the NFL.
• 58:01
  Speaker 17: You know, everyone wants to build it up like it's
• 58:03
  Speaker 17: baseball or basketball or something like that.
• 58:05
  Speaker 18: It's not. Look, we we do our research.
• 58:09
  Speaker 17: On everything that's available, and I would say Elliott and
• 58:11
  Speaker 17: his staff have you know, contacted you know, multiple teams,
• 58:14
  Speaker 17: and multiple teams have contacted us, just like every other
• 58:17
  Speaker 17: team in the league.
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: What do you think a deal didn't get doesn't.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
• 58:22
  Speaker 18: I mean, Look, for us, it's about it's about value, it's.
• 58:26
  Speaker 17: About you know, thinking about the president and also trying
• 58:29
  Speaker 17: to get better in the future.
• 58:31
  Speaker 13: Thank you?
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Or do you feel compelled to talk to the team
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: about the election and how do you sort of navigate that.
• 58:37
  Speaker 17: Look for us, it was all about Chicago. What I
• 58:39
  Speaker 17: told them this morning is that you know, I respect
• 58:42
  Speaker 17: democracy and we have to respect the office.
• 58:44
  Speaker 18: And you know people.
• 58:45
  Speaker 17: Went out there and voted, and there's a reason that
• 58:48
  Speaker 17: we have secret ballots. You don't have to talk about it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 17: I said the three things, the three things that kind
• 58:52
  Speaker 17: of you know, the three things that in a locker room.
• 58:56
  Speaker 18: You have to be.
• 58:57
  Speaker 17: Careful about is talking about politics, talking about religion, and
• 59:02
  Speaker 17: back in my day it was talking about Michael Jordan
• 59:04
  Speaker 17: versus anybody else. Now with these guys, is Lebron versus
• 59:07
  Speaker 17: anyone else? But those are the three things that always
• 59:09
  Speaker 17: turned the hot topics.
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: With no movement at the deadline, you see catalog, yam
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: a wide receiver. Like seven players on the roster, how
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: do you expect other moves and how are you going
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: to try and incorporate you know, those guys getting plenty
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: of time, particularly the rookies.
• 59:32
  Speaker 17: I think you hit it on the head like they're
• 59:33
  Speaker 17: on the roster right now and they're gonna go out
• 59:36
  Speaker 17: there and practice today. And at the same time, you
• 59:38
  Speaker 17: know they'll have their opportunities, and it's not about the
• 59:41
  Speaker 17: amount of opportunities they have. It's about, you know, going
• 59:43
  Speaker 17: out there and taking full advantage of those opportunities.
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: Seeking the wide receivers.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I asked for a lot of about jobs for and
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: that can celebration.
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: On the sidelines.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: What more do you need to see from him?
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: Jos On One more do you have to see from him?
• 59:57
  Speaker 9: I'll say, like dry Cote's a journey week that these
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: increased opportunities.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 17: What he gets, well, he's been in this league for
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 17: a long time and he's a professional and he understands, uh,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 17: you know, the active and active part of it. And
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 17: I would say, you know, he just needs to continue
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 17: to do what he's doing, and that's to go out
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 17: there and practice hard and be a good teammate.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: So you expect to continue to carry seven wide receivers on.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 14: The active roster.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 17: Look, these these guys are on the roster right now.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 17: We're always again looking looking to get better and that
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 17: may be addition through subtraction and maybe.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 18: I don't know what group is it is, but we're
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 18: always looking to get better.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 19: What do you find yourself doing better now midway through
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 19: this season as a head coach that you were doing
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 19: weeks one.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 17: Two and three two, I would say, just you know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 17: for myself personally, it's just the communication and going through
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 17: you know, situational football during the games. Those are things
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 17: that you have to continue to experience. Look and once again,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 17: you know, everyone may not like the decision, but at
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 17: the same time, someone has to make it and that's me.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Coach.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 14: You mentioned the importance of you know, making progress off
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 14: the season for your young players piercing workie class.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Obviously different cases for each but how do you feel
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: that they progress so.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: Far this season?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 17: Well, if these guys are doing what they need to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 17: do and they all as individuals will progress at you know,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 17: different speeds. I would also say, you know, I think
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 17: you know our quarterback. I know everyone's excited about our quarterback,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 17: and he is. He's a good player for us, and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 17: he will continue to develop going forward, but he understands
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 17: there are a lot of things to work on for
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 17: himself personally as well. And you know, you see, you
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 17: know some of the other guys and there at different
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 17: points in there in their rookie year. The rookie, your
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 17: rookie year. No matter what position you play, it's it's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 17: always tough. And again those guys, it's about getting better
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 17: every single day, and you know you're gonna deal with
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 17: different situations every single day, whether you're talking on the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 17: field or off the field.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Those guys that great history. She's my lines are way
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: off this week. Yeah, I just I don't. I don't
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: believe in do you get your lines from Jimmy, the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: barbers and the street.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: It's week to to spread and I just I just
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: go to DraftKings Verys had the same lines as Paul.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday's talk about winnable and losable games was spot on.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Over the season, the close games tend to flip one
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: way or another, randomly, and this is another proof of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Belichick's hypocrisy. Lombardi aka the Mouth of Saarn, went on
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: babbling like that last year's record was not a good
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: indicator of the team's quality, but he himself loves to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: quote the you are what you are what your record says,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: you are a lyne. How many of the four wins
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: came from details? Last minute heroics against the Bills, improbable
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Christmas kicking Denver, and the almost ridiculous Jets hail mary?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: How much? How many of the four wins came from details?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: The Jets hail Mary? I don't know what that is?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Almost miraculous Jets hail Mary? He said, I don't know.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: They said the team the team was bad.
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  Speaker 4: I do now that he says that the Jets had
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: a hail Mary at the end of that game that
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: fell short.
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  Speaker 8: With the Marcus Marcus.
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  Speaker 3: It was called but short of the goal line.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, now that I'm thinking of it, Yeah, I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: think the Patriots won like fifteen to ten.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, the team was bad last year, it
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: is bad this year, and hopefully we'll be better next year.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Wolf has to prove he's a good GM and nail
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: the offseason, both in the draft, trades and free agency.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Let's surround the kid with weapons and improve this offense.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: So his bigger point was the team was what it
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: records was last year.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Ye yeah, and it is now and he's proving. You know,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: you can talk yourself into anything. You can say, we're
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: not as bad as four and thirteen, But if you
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: go four and thirteen, like you could say, you know,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: we went eight nine and we probably should have been
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: better than that. We you know, like right now, there's
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: a handful of teams that probably feel like they should
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: be in the playoff race that aren't Cincinnati.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: You brought up is one.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: You know, they have more talent than their record indicates.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: But if you're four and thirteen, you're probably a four
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: and thirteen team. You know what are you maybe a
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: six and eleven team instead? Yeah, you know, if you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: get some breaks here and there, you're a bad team.
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  Speaker 8: I think I'm also learning about tiers of bad teams
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  Speaker 8: where it's like there's like the the zero to three
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  Speaker 8: win teams or zero but you know one two three wins,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 8: and it's nine teams with two wins.
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  Speaker 4: It's bad the most since like two thousand and six.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: At his time of year before.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I just think if you're well coached team
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: and you and you don't get absolutely injuries, he should
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: be in the five to six win territory.
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  Speaker 13: You know.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 8: It's like you really, it really kind of has to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 8: be bad to be stuck in that like two, three four.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Even the injury thing. You know, I talked about this all,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: like everybody has a lot of injuries. The bad years
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: for teams are when the injuries are concentrated in like
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: a specific area. Yeah, you know, and all of a sudden,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: you know, like Tampa Bay, like they just, all of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: a sudden go into a game with no wide receivers
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: because Godwin and Evans both go down in the same game.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: You know, like that's a crippling you know, it's only
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: two injuries. You say, what do you mean everybody.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Else is healthy? That that's hard.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: Like Baker Mayfield has to go into a game, a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: big division game at home against Atlanta and have no
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: real idea where he's going to get production from.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a hard thing to overcome.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, remember similar to the twenty thirteen Patriots lost Will
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: Fork and forget who is the branch? Maybe I forget
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: who the like tackle they kind of paired him with
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: at the time, but they lost both those guys and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: then they had like white Christianes, like that other Chris
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: Jones that was the Patriots guy who was like an
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: undrafted like just played a year or two, but he
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: him and Joelano, remember jober Joe Allano, him and Chris Jones.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: You probably lost Chris Jones and the other Chris Jones
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: with the real Chris Jones. But you know, all of
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 8: a sudden, if.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: The other Chris Jones played in like two thousand and six, I'd.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Be like, oh, yeah, remember him well, Like it was
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: brief but that but that would.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Guy.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, same kind of point though, same thing, like your
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: two interior tackles that everything's going to kind of go through,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 8: lost them, and then you're stuck with like two undrafted
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 8: rookies now and I.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Meantriots already was short on the offensive line, and then
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: you have like two and three offensive linemen unavailable every game.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: You know, David Andrews gets hurt, Daria Lowe gets hurt,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: Lady Robinson gets hurt, and City So is not ready
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: to go. At the start of the season, concentrated all
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: in the same area that affects things Matt and.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: No, no, I didn't. I just I just needed to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: make sure that there is Chris Jones.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: Remember that guy?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Sure? Let me see never not you don't remember Chris Jones?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Do you I remember the name? I don't.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: Bill Belichick is the frame of the game giving Chris
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 8: Jones a hug.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Oh that's perfect.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be good because I get made fun of
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: for taking shots at Bill after the fact.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Matt and Devin uk I personally think that the pick
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: segment is the best part of the week. Don't listen
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: to the grumpy people who don't like it. It's hilarious
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: and like you say, it's the part of the week
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: where you get to talk about the rest of the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: league and have a little fun. Firstly, Fred, don't ever change.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: You are hilarious in the picks. And even though we
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: know what you're going to say, Denver, oh is at home,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: the home team gets three points. It gets me every
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: timely second, if you really want to know what the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Sharps know, then just follow Alex. She always picks the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: favorites and lays the points, so just look at her record.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: And finally, can you please explain to me how you
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: can get the result of the game wrong but win
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: the spread. Surely, if you get the team wrong to win,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: then you've got the points wrong. I'm not a betting man.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: I really don't understand this.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: Maybe we need to do a better job of Do
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: you want to explain that part?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, the spread is not related to the result.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: Right, so you could get the you get the results
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: of the game wrong.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: Should Murrell be taking notes on this?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: This is how maybe you should say.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Let's say that let's say that I don't know that
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: you've spread, but let's say the Patriots are seven point
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: underdogs this week, right right, right? They lose the game
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: on the scoreboard, but they in the the score ends
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: up only being a five point difference. So it means
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: if you pick the Patriots you want.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: If you pick the Patriots to win and cover, you
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: only win the spread.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Tampa Bay, Kansas City was minus nine, but
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: the score was twenty four to twenty right, yeah, you.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Know, you see you big Tampa.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that wasn't the score of that game either,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: and that's part of your problem. It was thirty to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: twenty four.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: What's the final.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know how he messed it up, and I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: don't know how you were Remember that.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: My boy is still no but he's asking a question,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: how can you get the points spread right in the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: result of the game wrong? So in Fred's example, if
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: the Patriots are underdogs by six this week against Chicago,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: and you pick the Patriots to win and cover and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: they lose by three, Chicago wins the game. So if
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: you pick the Patriots to win the game, you lose
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: the result of the game.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: You lose that pick.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: However, you win the spread because you were also getting
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: six points and they only lost by three. So you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: lose the game the result of the game, but you
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: win the pick against the spread.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Good day, sir, Right.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: Loose You got that?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Matt?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: Matt looks like that's why you need a Matt lipstick
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: camp because he was just staring at you like, Oh,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: I should have probably known this about five years ago.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: Classy I Chris wants to know about a question for Paul.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: What is your opinion on pepsi max versus pepsi zero sugar.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: I haven't really.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: Tried a lot of the difference pepsi's DP diet. Pepsi
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: blame my wife.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: What's your B though? If you had a B like
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: a beast, you know, a squad is diet PEPSI. What's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: your B squad? If you had to go nothing, you
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: had nothing, no, yeah, I would go like Gatorade, Gatorade
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: zero or something like the fleet right.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: They make your own gatorade. Back in the day at
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: BU Baseball in the eighties.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Was that yeah so good? Yeah?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Well I didn't do it a lot, but yeah, they had.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: That stuff like it, like it a lot, give it
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: a look, extra kick.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: Now it's like the liquid IV's that the kids do.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, there's so much sugar in those two.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm sure that's part of the reason why
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: he uses it. Let's see Bud Wrights or writes in
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I have a friend named Buggler. Actually he calls himself
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: shutters in Manchester, interested to get Fred and Paul's answer
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: from the inside and from Evan induced on the outside. Alex,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: you're out which non player? So a coach, GM, staff,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: et cetera. Do you think doesn't get enough acknowledgment for
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: their contribution during the Dynasty years. Tune into Claire's podcast
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: for No Socks answer to this tomorrow. Yeah, he was
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: on this morning, no socks. It was on Claire's.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: Grows up and he grows out?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: So which non.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 7: Up?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: Non? So a coach? We have to pick a coach? Well,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: I have somebody in mind that.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Doesn't get enough credit for the Dynasty years?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, who do you have in mind? Ernie Adams? Do
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: you think he doesn't get enough credits?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: Wow, in the moment, he probably didn't.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: He probably he gets a lot of credit now and
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: he should. But you know, I agree that he should,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: but I think he does. Yeah, Okay, that's fair. Who's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: the person who doesn't get any credit that should m
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: I'm Nancy Meyer. Yeah.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: I have a hard time coming up with someone that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: doesn't really get a lot of credit.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom Brady right, Like, yeah, I don't know. Is
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: there a coach that you would say like he was.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: A really really good coaching People didn't realize what a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: good coach he was. I think people know like Charlie wasn't,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: Romeo Cornell were really good, and Josh came in he
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: was really good after that, and then Bill O'Brien did
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: a really good job.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: Like those guys, what about something I didn't know until
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: being on the show with you guys, the the guy
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: who really pushed for Tom Brady who has since passed away.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: That's lore that I really never knew until. Like I said,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: I think Paul told me.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: That Dick Raybne was largely credited with like Bill told him,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: discovered we want we wanted after quarterback late in the draft,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: and he tasked Dick raybih with picking the one that
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: he wanted, and he's the one that identified Tom Brady.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, according to that's the lower the lore word
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: and that lawer.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: He died in what August two thousand and one, I
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 8: mean amongst like one of the craziest periods in Patriot history.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: And I mean he kind of gets forgotten a little
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: bit because of nine to eleven and Bledsoe and Brady
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: and everything that happened, like within the two weeks of
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: it happening.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Gil Santos, why, oh, I mean,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: it's a great question. I just don't know if I
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: have a good one. That's a great voice.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's uh, what's the other part of the question.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: I think everybody gets good And I thought there was
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: something from Mike.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: Ivan though he was asking for our outside perspective. That's
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: what I think, you man, that you guys were here.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, to be honest, not to some on snarky,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: I think everybody's gotten a significant amount of credit.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Them out of their documentaries and all that stuff we've made.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: I think we think of it under the radar contributor.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 8: I wonder who no socks Ha got. Maybe we'll turn
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: into a clear perspective tomorrow to find out.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that Fred and Paul will scoff
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: at whatever. Everyone got credit, but it was just Brady anyway,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: so stop asking, Well, he'll be the last guy to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: be credits.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like you in that regard Austin and
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: North Carolina. I normally watch or listen on my phone.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: Yesterday I decided to put the show up on my
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: TV and pumped up the video quality. All I can
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: say is wow, Okay, he says take that. How you will.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: Us mostly on the show yesterday, So thank you.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: At this point the season, who do you think has
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: done their job better? Wolf versus Mayo? And if this
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: season continues on this track, could we start to see
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: friction between the two. Geez A little concerned about that
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: last part. Probably Mayo.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 8: I would probably lean Mayo, but I don't.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: I think Mayo has kept it together.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, you know, some of the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: comments that you came today with, you know, guys sort
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: of young guys being.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Hungry still and being on board. That's the coach's job.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two and seven. We got to keep continue to
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: work toward what we're our goals are, right. Yeah, and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: obviously they're short on talent. So I think Mayo has
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: probably done a better job.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you won me over on that.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 14: I like that.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Let's see Cole writes in first time he's ever written
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: or called.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Been listening since six, been reading since the nineties. I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: joined the Navy in O three. Thank you for your service,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: and it was difficult to download anything on a ship
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: with limited bandwidth. I used to have the newspaper delivered
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: to the ship. It was amazing. We used to have
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Carol go out on a robot. She would actually hand
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: the she would put one of those like yellowishers I
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: have on and then she'd come back. But anyway, you said,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: the paper would show up three to six weeks after
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: it was pret That sounds about right, and that wasn't
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: just for people on ships. I watched Super Bowl thirty
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: eight in the middle of the Mediterranean. I got written
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: up for not being at quarters when Adam kicked the
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: game winner. I retired from the Navy last year. Congratulations,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: and I can honestly say that you two and the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: rest of the crew helped me greatly through a career
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: that took me out of the country more often than not.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: The evolution of the PU crew has been amazing to watch. Paul, Fred, Andy, Brian,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Eric kind Of Megan, Mike, Alex Tamara, and of course Evan.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: what you do. Your level headed analysis was welcome light
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: in the darkness that is most Boston media. I will
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: listen as long as you guys are on the air,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: I will make it a point to make more contact
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: from now on. Well, thank you, called, I appreciate it.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: Talk to Joe Cardona about getting that.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: I gotta ask that Carol why she never told us
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: about him?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: You know that either, Dingy.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: You guys don't even know how hard it was these two.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 8: Well, all I heard was about how hard Andy made
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: it on Carol and I'm talking.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: To you as doing that because you were in the
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: paper itself.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Because we you know, it was tough to get. Uh,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: it was hard a paper, you know, delivered to people
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: before the next game when they lived outside of New England.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: We tried our best, but you know, you're a subject
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: to the us PS. And someone would call in and
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: say I didn't get Carol. Well, what would happen? You know,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: because the customer service number was her phone on our desk,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: so she'd have to like answer to all these people
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: who were like, where's my paper was? And then like
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: so she wasn't at her desk all the time, so
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: the little red light would be constantly blinking and Andy
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: would want you got voice messages? Come on, Cali, you
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: gotta answer those voice messages. Oh and he was relentless, Carol,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: no more talking talking.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: I was a subscriber in California, so I've experienced firsthand
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 8: some of those delays.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wait a minute, wasn't that two weeks ago? This game? Yeah?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: I just like the pictures.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nathan and Tampa, what's going on with Pop? Drake
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: likes to throw to him. He's our best receiver at
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: beating man coverage. And he could be a yak machine
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: when hit and stride. In training camp, I believe it
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: was mentioned the coaching staff values of receiver's ability to
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: run block, and Douglas is on the smaller side. But
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: we can't run the ball anyway, so who cares if
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: Douglas can't block. Pop needs to stay on the field
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: all three downs.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: I just don't know if he's got their ability, you know.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 8: I like being able to use him in specific spots,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: but I kind I generally get the point though, of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: like I felt like first couple of games that they
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 8: had a chemistry going and hasn't been quite as much
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 8: the last few. But I just think you need other
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 8: guys to step up so you don't miss it as
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: much when he has a game because all these guys
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: not confused.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: Is like Tomorio Douglas, his production drops out because he
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: doesn't play enough. Now He's out there all the time,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: and certainly in passing situations when they have three receivers
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: in the field, he's always one of them, like always
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: one of.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: Them, let's see, Joe writes in I agree with Chris,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: though I would like to take it a step further.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: I love Patriots Football Weekly newsletter in progress more than
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: the team at this point. Honestly, even when Brady was
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: still here. Paul, I know you're right a lot Remandre's running, sustainability,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: the fact that they brought in no one at left tackle,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and on and on.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: I just request next season and moving forward. You wait
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: until about week four to give us your revelations so
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: I can be artificially excited about the team just a
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: little bit. I get it.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's a tonality issue.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 8: Oh boy, but you got some excitement this summer when
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: we start to see May. You know pop a little bit?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, and that is I've maintained that. You know,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: I said this a couple of times. I get some
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: funny looks when I go on my show.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Was I Drake May?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: I wanted Drake May over Jade and Daniels, and I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: stand by that. I think he will be better than
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Jayde and Daniels when all is said and done. And
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: I'm nothing I've seen since has said oh I really
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: missed that one.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: So Martin from London, from upstairs has a question. You know,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: the gray track suits that the players wear on the road. Yeah,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: he wants to know where you can get one. I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 14: Now.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: There's certain linds have closed that Nike makes and it's
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: just there'll be a label on it that says like
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: bench weear, and it's like it's specifically for a team personnel.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: They were smart after the season they opened that up.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they would play afterwards because you got to create
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: the lore.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: I tell you, Martin, they're not overly flattering.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Well, well that's the thing you no. So here's what
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: this is. This is so true. So all the players
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: and staff, not the steerage. Yeah, all the players, coaches, trainer,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: everybody on the football staff. Evan gets one road. Not
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: everybody can talking at one. Let me finish the story.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: We went out and got our own tops, but we
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: don't get issued with the full foot right, But everybody
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: on the staff gets that. And there's some people, uh
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: that should not be wearing that track suit. They look
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: like literally they're wearing pajamas. You know, to name some
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: to not name names, but it's not a flattering look.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: As Paul said, for everybody.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: I think Evan would Evan when he gets In would
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 8: echo your.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: It's not really even a flattering look for the players
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: who are in peak physical condition. They just don't look great.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, though to Martin, go on eBay.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 8: I don't know that they'll be there, but keep an
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 8: eye on eBay and Google and.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four gray out for ninety eight dollars on
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: California Outfits dot.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 8: Com California Outlets.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: I have to look at it is it? Is it authentic? Okay?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Because I know it's Nike is the company.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: That kind of stuff does pop up on eBay. Though
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: from time to time, if you're if you're diligent about it,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: search bench where Patriots bench, where you might.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: You might come across some It sounds like Mike might
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: have a little side, little side beside this.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: No, I always, but I love like I would always.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 8: I'm a good ebayor for Patriots old crap. As you've
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: probably seen some of the stuff I wear, and yeah,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 8: there's always gems that pop up on there, but I'll
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 8: do Patriots team wear. That's always a good one.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Because I know the label and this is team issue.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that might be the label.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: Then maybe they've got some.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Special Diana from uh New Hampshire writes in about Alex
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: van Pelt, he said, could it she says? Could it
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: be that Alex's more intricate schemes are too difficult for
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: the current players to perform? Could be the players holding
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: him back? I don't think so. I don't think that
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: the schemes are too difficult. If anything, they're not difficult enough. Yea.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: The again, this is just off of reputation and whatnot.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not the architect of the offense, but it's considered
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: to be a pretty player friendly system, right quarterback friendly.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: I think they've used specifically that phrase, so I don't
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: think that that's accurate.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: Maybe she's speaking to how like earlier in the show
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: we were talking about I think it was talking about
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: how creative he is and he's been kind of like
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: held back where we all see it as more conservative
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: and yeah, yeah, guess who's.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: Back during the songs?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Evan, before we get into the practice, what's your opinion
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: of the Patriots travel warm up suit?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: Oh uh, I'm okay, yeah, but obviously the player's creativity,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: is that what you guys are just talking about, Maybe
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: that you know they're they're outfits though, you know, Yeah,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: they don't get to really show off their game day
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: they do. Yeah, so I think that they're you know,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: that's uh. I've heard some grousing about that.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: Oh really from the media. Uh from our people, our people.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, or like just like an example,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe they went to a big college and
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: like they might wear on a Michigan Ohio state weekend.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: You know, we see a Michigan guy in a in
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: Michigan's gear, and that would be good because it was optional.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: I thought they didn't have to wear the tracksuit. They could.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: I have not seen a single player not wear it,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: so I don't know.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're a lot more comfortable than wearing
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: nice clothes for sure. But what do you like the
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: track suit? Oh?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: I only have the hoodie. Yeah, I don't have the pants, right,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: but I do like the hoodie. Yeah, okay, and it's nice.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: You know, looking at some of the non players that
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: wear the tracksuit, would you say that it's.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: Flattering non players non players?
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever looked at it like that.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know how to respond to that.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, sure, all right, you do you think
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: it's flattering? Why not I think they look like they're
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: wearing pajamas. Okay, it's not a great look.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: I can hear that anyway, So let's get back to
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: practice anyway. Yeah, yeah, So just a few updates, nothing major.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: Jamichael Hasty back at Patriots practice today. He missed yesterday
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: with the personal matter, so still no Kyle Dugger he
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: remains out with an ankle injury and was not at
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: practice again today. Did see him in the locker room,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: but was not at practice, so he remains out. Cushion
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: Ellis is still there even though he was listed as
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: a d NP. He's still out at practice in a uniform.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: So Dugger the only absence, and Caleb Jones wasn't there
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: from the practice squad, but Douger the only absence from
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: the the active roster.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: And Caleb Jones was one of the practice players of
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: the week last week two weeks A very tall No,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: I know, I know he's you know, Jonathan Ogden, but
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: he was like, I'm not I didn't misremember that, right.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: He was one of the recent practice players of the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: week after the you know, heading into the Jets game. Yes, right,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: So that's weird that he wouldn't be I I hope
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: he didn't.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Get hurt, all right, So any you know interesting things
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: that you saw today, people lining up in different places.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: Or well, well, the line stayed the same as what
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: we saw yesterday with an when who at left guard.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: And he basically talked today in a scrum in the
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: locker room and more or less confirmed that that's where
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: he was yesterday for practice. And uh he answered the
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: questuestions about as judicially as he possibly could, but you
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: do you know, mentally he said that he doesn't feel
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: like he's playing very well or up to his standard.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: And I think you can read between the lines at
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: all the moving around inside outside now to the left side,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: it might be affecting him somewhat. Even if it's not
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: physically affecting him, maybe mentally it's just been a lot.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: It's been a whirlwind of a season for him, so
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: he doesn't feel like he's played very well.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: And that's part of kind of you know, I don't
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: say went out of his way, but was certain to
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: tell everybody today that Mike and When is our best player.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah on the line, I totally agree, Fred, And that
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: to me adds context of those comments exactly.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're trying to pump him up. Come on, Mike, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: we get it, we get it.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: You haven't put you in a great spot, but yeah,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: the best we got, right, that's why you were asking
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: you to do so much.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think that's a fair read on it.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: You know, today again we saw Laden Robinson and at
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: right guard and Michael Jordan out of the starting five.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: It seems like as of right now, and I understand
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: the Jordan's piece of it. I I felt like his
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: tape has dropped off pretty significantly over the last couple
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: of weeks. And I can understand wanting to go with
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: the younger players that you see as a part of
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: your future potentially in there. But you feel for on Winno,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: you do? I mean, I look, he's getting paid, so
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: I don't feel too bad for him, but I feel
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: for him in terms of his performance that it's obviously
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: impacting him by moving around the line.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: So Michael Jordan out of the starting five? Who had
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: ever thought that?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: So the team this is now their third out of
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: four weeks on the road. Yes, you feel it affecting
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: the media? Are they wearing down a little bit? You know,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: getting a little tired, grumpy.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: Perhaps it's it's a tough stretch and then it's actually
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: three or four on the road because I say, yeah,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, sorry, host, don't listen. Uh yeah, it's a
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: it's a tough full stretch here. You know, you gotta
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: you gotta be on your p's and q's. You know
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: you gotta get your sleep. Yeah out too much on
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: Saturday night.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: Even on pack do they just keep the suitcase like I.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: Can't speak to that. I unpacked. I don't know about you,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: but I unpacked myself. But I know I think that
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: yesterday we had Drake May you know, at the podium
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: and there's maybe a tiny little bit of juice about
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: this being against Caleb Williams, and I do feel like
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: there's a little bit of that going on for Drake
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: at least, that you were picked ahead of me, and
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: you know, everybody thought you were the consensus number one guy,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: and now here's an opportunity to go ahead to head.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Getting back to the media, it is flu season.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: I just keep on trying it.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: Have to know how many of the media have gotten
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: their flu shot, because I hear a lot of coughing
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: and sneezing going on in that press box.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: It's it's alarming, it is alarming. I'm with you on
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: this one hundred percent. And that's why I liked last
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: week in Nashville. We were kind of sitting in our
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: own little area, and I prefer that for this exact reason.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: You know, keep your germs to yourself. Yeah, I hear you.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: That's a good point. So I maybe we can all
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: go up to the CVS and Patriot Place after media.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe Stacy James should offer flu shots in the media
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: work have a nurse on hand.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: That's or just that's a great idea, or like the.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: Cookie. Yeah, a healthy a healthy media is a happy Remember.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: Remember we used to have to get the the COVID
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: test and the modular out.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe I brought that back.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah every day remember that.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: That was awful.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 8: Stopped by this trailer real quick and let some ladies
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 8: swap my nose.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, then we all came back positive. It was
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: all it was all false false positive. Yeah, the whole,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: the whole, like you know, yeah whatever it's called, sample
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: got messed up or whatever on you.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 8: When that happened, and I got a text from Cecily,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 8: who's like, you need to leave the building right now,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 8: like what.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: I was driving home and I got a got a
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: call from Stacy and almost like staring off the Yeah.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: So it was the indie game. We came back from
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Indianapolis and we all had tested positive and I was like,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: there's no freaking way, yeah, and so I said, we
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: have to do retests, and they brought in a crew
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: from New Jersey and they did two different tests than
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: they did there and we were all fine. To the bottom.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: I refuse to believe that we all got COVID at
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: the same time.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we all had a group text going with because
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: I was external media at that point, and we all
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: had a group text going and I think it was
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: I believe it was Andrew who was like leading the
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: charge because we were we all wouldn't have been able
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: to come to work, you know, and like that's our livelihood.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: So yeah, and so we were all like we're all fine.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: Like I don't understand.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: So I remember that goodness for that all right. Yeah, uh,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: it is that time of the week, so catch us up, Okay,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: I say.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: Preview at the very beginning of the show was a
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: pretty strong week for everyone for Evan, so it was Mike,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: Evan and Paul twelve and three, Wow, Fred eleven and four,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: Alex ten and five. So everybody did really well with
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: the regular picks this week with the spread otherwise known
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: as where you Separate the Men from the Boys, Mike
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: and Paul eleven and four, Wow, Fred ten and five,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: Evan eight and seven, and Alex six and nine.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: I don't remember, I understand how I do so good
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: had to straight up and then the spread, I'm so bad,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: So here are the it's tougher.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: The overall is Paul is eighty nine and forty nine,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: Evans eighty eight and fifty, Alex eighty seven and fifty one,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: Fred eighty six and fifty two and poop Emoji Mike
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: eighty threety.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: Three geez okay with the spread You're awful.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: Fred gets the crown seventy seven, fifty eight and three,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: followed by Mike seventy five, sixty and three, Paul's strong
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: eleven and four showing I lose the poop emoji this week,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: and I'm seventy two, sixty three and three, Evans sixty nine,
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  Speaker 4: sixty six and three, and poop Emoji Alex sixty eight
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  Speaker 4: sixty seven and three.
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  Speaker 3: Careful though she edits.
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  Speaker 12: The name right.
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  Speaker 6: I don't do the poop emoji graphic.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: No, that's out. You have close write out of which
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: who do I send those two?
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: I usually send those out on Thursday.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: I guess send them to Nancy and Jules she I'll
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: be working on it. Okay, I'll send it. Okay, I'll
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: send them to both of them. Mike, you're tasked with that.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Make sure, because you know I'll forget in the half hour.
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  Speaker 8: No, Nancy is my mom's name. I won't forget that,
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  Speaker 8: all right.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: My mom's birthday today, Happy.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 8: Birthday, birthday?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you Alice his mom? All right, all right now tonight,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: I gotta hurry tonight. We do have to hurry. Feeling
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: a little dangerous, you have to hurry. We really don't.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: That gyro is sitting well, it's a let me. I
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: might have to get out anyway. Eight fifteen tonight on
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: Prime Video, it's the four and five Bengals at the
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: six and three Ravens. Big Game, Big Game.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: Fun Game Tonight.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: Ravens by six looks like no T Higgins again.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: You can watch this one on the Amazon. You know
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: what I might if you have a button on your
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: mote that probably says Prime.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: Right. I know how to watch it.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: I just don't until they invent the way to change
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: channels during commercials.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: Why what are you going back and forth on tonight?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: Could be anything Bruins Game, The Bachelor, no Thursdays?
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: What's on Thursday nights?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: Matt Locke back a new one?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: What are you? One hundred?
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: With Cathy Bags like years seventy something. It's actually her
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: Last Chicago p D. The Last Chicago p D is
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: a good show. No One network. People still watching the network.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: I like Fire. Fire is fine.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know why you have to make fun of yourself.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: The Ravens by six, I like, go ahead.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 8: Michael, So I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take I have to, alright,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 8: I'm going to take Baltimore to win, but I'm going
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: to take those points for Cincinnati. I think they've been scoring.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: I think it'll be a close divisional game on Thursday night.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 8: So I'll take Baltimore, but I'll take the points for Cincy.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: Please the same way, because Mike's been doing well.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: Oh look at copy place. Lamar Jackson m VP of
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: the league again, I'm the last. I'm taking Lamar, but
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: it's the Hemmy Award every week. But I am going
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: to take the points as well. For the Bengals short
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: week division game, I just think they got this cover
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: the spread.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Baltimore's defense played really well last week, which means
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: if you're following the trends, they'll probably struggle this week.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: So I will do the same thing Baltimore, but I'll
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: take the six.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's doing the same thing, all right. Sunday at
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: nine thirty, we're back overseas, this time in Germany in Munich.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: The two and seven Giants are at the two and
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: seven Panthers.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: Nothing builds the game globally like this matchup. The Giants
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: by six and a half.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: Six and a half, geez, that's a lot.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not sure how to play this one. That
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 8: is a lot of points. So I'm gonna take the Giants,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: but I'll give the points. I'll give the points for Carolina.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: I think it'll be close between two bad teams.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: I guess I'm just gonna take the Giants, double Giants.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do the same thing as dude. I think
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: both these teams are too bad to separate themselves from
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: one another. So I'm gonna take the Giants, but I'll
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: take Carolina to cover.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: I thought about doing that, but I think there's a
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: chance the Giants defense could really uh bog down Bryce Young.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points. I'm gonna
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: go with Alex, take the Giants both ways.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is where the Sharps are gonna get you.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: So they're putting up a false flag here. Oh yeah,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: they're they're making it so that you know, Oh, I
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: think the Giants are gonna win. But with those points,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: I'll get you know, they'll get money coming in on
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: the Panthers. What they know is that the Panthers are
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: gonna win outright, So they're gonna take everybody's money this week.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: Panthers win this game outright.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 8: Shoot, okay, shut already got it wrong.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: One o'clock at Fox. Oh yeah, one o'clock on CBS.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. One o'clock on CBS. The seven and two
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: Bills are at the four and five Colts, Buffalo by four.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: All right, Flocoh yeah, I mean I like Flocco, but
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 8: I can't take them at home against the buff I'm
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 8: gonna take Buffalo. I'll lay the points.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: Please Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo rolls.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: I will take Buffalo, but I'll take the points. I
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: say that Buffalo wins by a field goal? Why is
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: that because Flacco?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: What you believe in Flacco?
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: I think they have a chance to score some points.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: Most games that he's played over the last two years,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: for the team that he's played for, has been able
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: to score. Last week was an exception. I thought Minnesota
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: might do that to him, and they did. But I
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: think otherwise he throws the ball still at a pretty
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: high level. And I don't think Buffalo's defense is great.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the window is closing, but it keeps getting propped
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: up by these lousy teams. Josh Allen, I'm gonna go
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: getting propped up by Josh. I'm gonna go with bills
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: both ways. It's not shut yet. Fox at one o'clock,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: the six and two Vikings are at the two and
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: seven Jaguar. I like that.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: We're going in order on my sheet today, Minnesota by
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: four and a half.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 8: That is that Mac Jones his music?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: I think so is he playing?
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, I know that sounds like the latest scuttle
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 8: Bud Trevor is that practice today, But I'm likely to play.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: That's glad you guys shared that with me.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 8: That's got Minnesota written all over it. I'll take Minnesota.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 8: I will lay the points.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: Minnesota, Minnesota, you bitcher, Evan.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: I am also going to take the Vikings both ways.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: I just think the Jaguars are are falling off here.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: I was actually looking at this as the Fred Kirsh
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: upset special, and I'm not lying at all, but I
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: didn't know that Lawrence wasn't going to play.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: I will take Minnesota both ways. Yeah, me too, Minnesota
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: both ways. Skull CBS one o'clock, five and four, Broncos.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Something must have happened, Broncos. The networks in a row.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: They're not at home. I can't believe it. Fred. If
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: there's another team that gets that advantage all the time,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: it's the Chiefs, and they are at home at eight.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: No, Kansas City by seven and a half.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: Seven and a half. I like that a little better
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 8: than what's on my sheet. Yeah, I'm going to continue
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: to take Kansas City. I got burned last week taking
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 8: the points, laying the points with them, but I'm gonna
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 8: lay them again. I'll lay the seven and a half
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 8: against Denver.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 6: I'll split it. I'll take Kansas City to win and
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: I'll take Denver to cover.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: This is what a sixteen game winning streak right now.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: I want to say for the Chiefs over the Broncos.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: I think it continues, and I think the Chiefs role
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: I have both ways.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: I will take Kansas City to win, but I'll take
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: the points because Mike, what do I do Trent's baby
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 4: follow then they haven't really covered very often, folks. This
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: is your upsets.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: Fortune favors the bold Broncos outright. They end the streak
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: for the Chiefs and Patriots fans can breathe a little
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: easier because they're twenty one games, petty little people. They
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: care about these things intact that foot ball, and I
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: did it for you.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 8: It's like you guys have been working together twenty years.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: Broncos outright, one o'clock on Fox six and three Falcons
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: are at the two and seven Saints.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 8: Oh Jesus is, Oh gotta be bigger.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: This has gotta be bigger than my three and a
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: half and lots of it is favored by three and
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: a half.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 8: Just three and a half, Bob, jeez uh, that's nuts,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 8: not a lot. I'll take Atlanta and I'll lay those
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 8: points for the spiraling Saints.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 6: Good literation there, same thing.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: The Saints do have the Pope on their side, and
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: you guys have seen that, butstairs about their divine intervention there.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: And you usually do get a boost the week after
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: you fire the coach, right, that's usually the weekdayack to
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: it that you play well. So I'm gonna take Atlanta.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: But I'm going to say that it's a field goal game.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's also a really really bitter division rival
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: they see each other. I'm going to take Atlanta both ways. However,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: I think that they completely if you look statistically, they
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: dominated that game against the Panthers last week and still
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: found a way to lose. Noah Lave, which you know
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: fred I shared with you. I don't know if you know,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: but that's two concussions this year and four for his career.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know about you, Mike. He's done, but I
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable watching him play football.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: What if he were a concussion, I don't.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: I don't feel about comfortable about it, and I think
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: that the doctors should not allow it to be his decision.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: Take it out of his NFL should step in, and
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: then I'll take Atlanta both ways.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the big houses really do take into consideration the
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: division rival the big house houses.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 8: I heard that one before, the parlance.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: The big house, who are you taking? But it's like MGM, exactly, Yeah,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: I will go with the fount I'll go with you know,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: the brick and mortar casinos, not not like the network
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: that Mike Lombardi works for. Visit one o'clock on Fox.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: The four and four forty nine Ers are at the
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: four and five Buccaneers.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: The Niners by six.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 8: Pooh, I like san Fran. Looks like CMC could be
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 8: back to I like san Fran in this game. But uh,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 8: I'm tempted by these points with Baker.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: That's what they want.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what they want. I'm not gonna do it.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 8: I'll delay the points.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, seem.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the forty nine ers, of course, but
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't take the Bucks to cover at home long
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: trip for the forty nine ers. Bucks have been frisky.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm doing, Paul.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Tampa to pull an upset outright. I'm
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: a little worried about the losing the way they did
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: on a Monday night, short week on the road. I
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: just kind of like the way that Tampa played that game.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: And they have a really easy schedule after this game,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: so they're scrappy.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: They're scrappy.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: They try with sacre bakes while throwing multiple interceptions every week.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: We're lucky that Bakers in the league. There's no doubt
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: about that. Fortunate. This is a lot. This is what
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: they call a car wash game. So you've been through
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: the mud and your car looks crazy, you go through
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: the car wash, you come out really nice and clean.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: I guess he's gonna take the nine. That's how the
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers are looking now. Now starting they got
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: that car cleaned off, they're starting to look good on
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: the highway. Yeah, you're probably right, So they're gonna win.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: One o'clock on CBS, the six and two Steelers are
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: at these seven and two Commanders.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: Washington by three.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 8: Washington by three, who's pretty This is a pretty interesting
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 8: game here. Actually, what do you believe? What do you believe?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: What do the sharps know?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Washington and I'll lay the points.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 8: But I think this is a kind of a coin
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 8: flip for.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: Me, Commanders, Commanders.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't take the Steelers in this game. The Steelers
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: just I always pick against them because I just don't
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: see it with them, but they always proved me wrong.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: And I think the Commanders have played some close games
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks and they're sort of flirting
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: with it. Three Washington, I'm gonna take the Steelers.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the Steelers.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: Two.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: I think that defense will be tough for a young
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: quarterback to see for the first time.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will take the Commanders, but I will take
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: the points. Wait, whose your favorite?
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Washington by three.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they don't lose by three.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh actually a toss up because.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: They don't win by three, right, they think by less.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: Correct even though they get the three for being at home.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: So it's like a pick.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: It's literally a toss up because it's literally.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhere in the world, Joey the noses like I
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: never heard a car wash game. I've been doing this
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: all right. We skip over the Patriots at one o'clock
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: and we go to four o five. The two and
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: six Titans are at the five. Three Chargers charges by
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: seven and a half. They had spread that big in years.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's a pretty good one. I usually I
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 8: see a team beat the Patriots and I think more
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 8: of them. I mean, I think Tennessee's okay, but I
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 8: think the Lack is starting to chug a little bit.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna take the Lack and I'm not actually gonna
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 8: lay the points.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 6: I'm also gonna take the Chargers. Yeah, I'll also lay
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 6: the points.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually thought the Titans were pretty bad last week.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 8: Just got I'll bat it.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Thanks, it's a way of putting it. So I'm
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: gonna take the Chargers in this game. It's a lot
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: of points, but I'll take the Chargers both ways at home.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: The the hook is there for you, Freddy, if you
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: want it. I'm gonna lay the points.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: I think the Chargers defense has played really, really well,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: and I think that's not a good offense in Tennessee.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: So I could see very very few points being scored
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: by the Titans.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: If you're wondering why the Chargers are getting seven and
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: a half, the answer is horriball. That's the answer. Because
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: he's gonna he knows Mason Rudolph not jesse Minter.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: Why exactly does he know Mason?
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: So the Charges both their defensive coordinator, Jesse Minter know
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: the name. He's gonna be a head coach del Real.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: All right, CBS at four twenty five, the three and
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: six Jets. They don't have a prime time game at
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: home this week. I don't know how that happened.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: See they got flexed out next week.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the against the five and four Cardinals. So
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: this spread was what do they know?
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: What Jets by one?
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: What's ups? Why can't my Cardinals get any respect?
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: Do they know on the road?
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 8: Well, then in that case, I'm taking Evans Cardinals at
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 8: home and I'll take that point home dogs.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, same run with Kyler.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm going Cardinals easily on this one. Drew
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: Petsing there off defensive coordinator, also know the name, going
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: to be a head coach in the league someday. Cardinals
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: ran for two hundred and thirteen yards last week, Cardinals
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: big in this game.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take the Cardinals too. I think they
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: got a little something going. I think that could be
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: a playoff team in the NFC.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: But I do wonder what they know. Why are they
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: favoring the Jets here? I'm not sure. It could be
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: just a money thing. How money is Like, how did
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: it start? That's what we should have. We should have
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  Speaker 3: How did the line start? That's my job. Never ran alexy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I have to do it all, so i would
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: like to know how this line shifted. But I'll go
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  Speaker 3: I'll go with the Cardinals both ways.
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  Speaker 8: Is it like a big call of duty release week
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  Speaker 8: or something?
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  Speaker 13: Wow?
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  Speaker 5: Nice job, there you go.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: That's not Tyler's played very well, you know him and
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  Speaker 3: apology who for? So this one, I'll be interested to
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  Speaker 3: see what the line is. Four twenty five CBS, the
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  Speaker 3: six and two Eagles are at the three and five
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys Philly by seven. Yeah, Prescott for now and maybe
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: the rest of the season. But is that a good thing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Maybe maybe not. I'm gonna take I'll take Philly on
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 8: the road. Shoot, I'm gonna have to lay those points too.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 8: It's a lot, but I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 6: Philly Philly until Dallas shows me something.
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  Speaker 5: Cowboys are in a free fall, so I'm taking the
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  Speaker 5: Eagles both ways in this game. I'm fascinated by what
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  Speaker 5: happens in the offseason with the Cowboys, I think people
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: are gonna get fired.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm a little philly obviously. To win the game,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: Sirianni just does things every single game to hurt his
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: team and does that Is that enough to cover the spread?
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: I say the Eagles will cover. But Cooper Rush has
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: played reasonably well for the Cowboys when he's filled in.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, if siriann is just gonna go for two
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: every time and you know, kick like sixty yard field
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 4: goals instead of punting at the end of a game,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: like the other team's always gonna have a chance.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm gonna take the Eagles'll you'll
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: cover my eyes. Yeah, when it comes to this game,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: if you're walking around Vegas, you might be hearing a
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: lot of people say rah rah, and that means that's
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: the type of game it is. For the Cowboys. It's
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: a raw ra game. They rally around the team because
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: without Prescott in and they actually cover. Here, they don't win,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: but they cover. They play hard without Prescott in there.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: So it's it's what they.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: Call lil ewing theory.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, see what you did then. So now
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  Speaker 3: we go Sunday Night A twenty on NBC Universo Telexitos
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: and Peacock. These seven and one Lions are at these
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: six and three Texans, Detroit by three and a half. Detwi.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Detroit's rolling. Hard to pick against them
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 8: right now. Houston's been up and down the suite year.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm rough Linds a mess.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just interested to see with it. They're able
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 8: to kind of pull together here at the end. But
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 8: I'll take Detroit all other points.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: Their first round guard that they picked a couple of
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: years ago hasn't panned down. Imagine picking a guard in
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: the first round having him not paying out.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I can't imagine Troit.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 6: Please Lions, Lions.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 8: Restore the roar. The roar have been restored, I believe.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think Houston's injuries are too much against a team
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: like the Lions. So I'm gonna take Detroit both ways
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 5: as well. But I think the Texans will be all right.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: But right now, no, I will take Detroit to win,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: but I'll take the hook. I mean, Houston scrappy, a
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: little scrappy, spunky. I hear a lot of people saying, see,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: they should have had c. J. Strouds sit out last
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: year so then he'd have his good year this year.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: But it's like that fall it could take like uh, now,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Lions both ways. Here uh
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: Monday Night, ESPN, ESPN Deportes eight fifteen. The two and
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: six Dolphins are at the four and four Rams. The
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: la are by one is a fun game.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 8: It's just a fun game.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: It's just a fun game. A lot of tight pants throwing.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: On so many tighte pants overwhelmed.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that that Matthew Stafford though, Man, he's he's still
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 8: really dangerous.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: You got a tight top to not just the tight
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: pun language.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think this is a one point game I'm
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 8: gonna take. I'm gonna take the Rams, but I think
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 8: it's kind of a coin flip. I expect to win
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 8: his offense, they'll be they'll be clicking, but I'll take
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 8: the Rams.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna roll the Rams to stringing a couple wins
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: the other another home.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go Rams both ways. I think Sean
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: McVay has done an outstanding job with the Rams this year,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: keeping them afloat through those injuries. So now that they're
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: in shouting distance, now that they're getting some of their
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: guys back. I just think he's a really good.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: Coach, really interesting young defense the Rams have built with
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: Verse and Fisk and those guys up front getting a
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: lot of heat on the passer.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take the I saw Verse end up in
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: the top quarter quadrant of uh you know pressure guys. Yes,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: you did you see that? Evan probably key On White
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: ended up. He did that too. He was up close
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: close to it.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: No, no, he was in the land, but in the bottom.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: He's where you want to be, right, It's.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: Like a cary, so everywhere you want to be, so
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: everywhere about the background. Did you already pick? I did?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: I picked. I'm tempted to pick the Dolphins, but if
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: it's at home for the Rams, I'll stick with it.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: Just like a road game, no one, no one goes
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: to root for the Rams and Chargers in that stadium.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: I know it's true, but I'll stick with the Rams
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: and Paul's guy. One o'clock on Fox. Now we go
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: back to the Patriots, the Stafford and Glad. We're getting
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: to end of the show because that gyro.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 8: We're on Fox this gotta hurry.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: It's the two and seven Patriots at the four and
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: four Bears, Chicago by six.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 5: We just picked this really really slow.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: Right, well, we do have.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 17: Six.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: You don't want to do that. I got Chicago handles
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: over there.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 8: He does actually lit up the new one.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: You're going to go Toqu's office.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I just thought I haven't seen enough out
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: of New England lately. I'm gonna go with Chicago. I
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: am tempted by the spread, though I think Newing can
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 8: keep it a little bit closer than that. But I
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 8: don't think, not today, I'm going to take twenty to
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 8: ten Bears.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: Not the day.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: I think I might pick the Patriots to cover. Chicago wins.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: Patriots cover what's the spread? One more time?
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: Six?
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 6: Okay, so now I'll do that quick math in my head,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: like less than six. Let's do like a twenty.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 8: Four nineteen twenty.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: What has to be eighteen eighteen? No, that's six exactly
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 6: twenty one eighteen all right.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 8: Eighteen, here we go.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm a little worried about this game just from
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: a talent perspective, Like if you stacked these two rosters,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: the Bears obviously have a lot more talent, especially on
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball, but they haven't been
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: clicking yet with Caleb, so I don't think that they're
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: gonna completely blow doors here. So I'll go twenty one
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: seventeen Chicago. The Patriots cover nice game for Drake May
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: against Caleb and got some people asking some questions on Monday.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my big concern here from the Chicago side is
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: where mentally they are. You know, they have DJ Moore
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: saying I want to say no, you know in terms
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: of that they.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: Coach was weird.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: So I think that there's some significant problems stemming from
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: that Hail Mary that they allowed. However, I'm gonna go
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: with Evans theory here. I'm just going to take what
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: I think is the more talented team in that Chicago.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go twenty three to thirteen.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: I'm going down with the ship. There's a shot twenty
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty one Patriots, big win on the road.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: That late season surge that Lex was talking about at
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, It's gonna start this week.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: Not saying they're gonna undefeat the rest of the way,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: but you're gonna see vast improvement going forward, and they're
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: gonna pull off a few wins. Uh, they'll end up
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: with at least four wins this season, predicting that right
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: now twenty seven. All right, that's it for this edition
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