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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Chuba Hubbard Injury & Hornets Schedule Released · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: When come on sty oh it is you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are the most entertaining sports program in the world.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, stop working. You and I are a couple
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  Speaker 1: eating like lady in the tramp. You're the lady on
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  Speaker 1: the tram. Yeah, come on, come on, baby. I wish
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  Speaker 1: I was Boopy Boopy MacLean man. It's a great name.
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  Speaker 1: All the bud.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Charlotte, Welcome board. We made it to Friday, baby.
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  Speaker 3: We are celebrating. We have made it to Friday. We've
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  Speaker 3: got a week of NFL preseason action underway after six
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  Speaker 3: games last night, and we've got starters versus starters tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: in Buffalo, at least for a short period of time.
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  Speaker 3: And it sounds like that's going to include Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 3: which is pretty cool, as well as the Panthers and
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  Speaker 3: Bills get ready to do it one o'clock tomorrow in
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo at their brand new Troughless Stadium in upstate New York.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about it a bunch obviously. Today on The
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  Speaker 3: Mack and Bone Show, we've got Dave Canalis talking about
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  Speaker 3: the Darren Waller Edition, which I think won't officially happen
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  Speaker 3: until after the preseason game. It sounds like Mike Kay
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  Speaker 3: originally had that last night. Sounds like the signing won't
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  Speaker 3: officially happen, but Canal's talked all about it. We also
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  Speaker 3: have an injury to a starter, new injury to a
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  Speaker 3: starter unfortunately as well, that we must discuss on this
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  Speaker 3: radio show. So we got things happening. Jaden Daniels in
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  Speaker 3: LSU still going on, still going on, So we will
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  Speaker 3: talk about that today on this show. And we got
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  Speaker 3: much much more happening. It sounds like Bone and I
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  Speaker 3: both had canines acting up at the house last night,
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  Speaker 3: different ways of acting up, but it sounds like that
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  Speaker 3: was happening, So I'm sure we can talk about that
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna Murphy's gonna end my career. What's gonna happen
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  Speaker 1: in your career? Yeah, not only my life, but my
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  Speaker 1: career is now in jeopardy. He's Hornet seasons coming up
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  Speaker 1: where I do the pregames from home, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you right now, you're worried this, this is
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  Speaker 1: this is a problem. Sounds like he wants to co host.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like he might be angling for a year later
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  Speaker 1: in the radio program.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, So anyway, we got things happening today on
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  Speaker 3: the Mac and Bone Show as we try to end
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  Speaker 3: the week in style. Charles Lee, Hornets Coach, will be
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  Speaker 3: in studio celebrating the release of the schedule, which happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that here in a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 3: But Charles Lee nine o'clock in studio here, Hornets head
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  Speaker 3: coach on the Mac and Bone Show.
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  Speaker 1: The Fit Dog is here too. Don't want to leave
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  Speaker 1: the Fit Dog out at all, Bone Man. The they
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  Speaker 1: call him mister Consistency because he's always here. Did we
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  Speaker 1: mac curse Fitty yesterday? Or I mean did I? Or
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  Speaker 1: did we macim? And we are something in life going
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday? But Fitty's thankfully he wasn't as bad as
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  Speaker 1: it could have been. But like, did we curse the
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  Speaker 1: poor lad? We were literally talking about his thing where
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't wear the seatbelt. I want to get into
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  Speaker 1: it because we were all preaching to him yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to care. But anyway, and we talked
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  Speaker 1: about him and getting you get into a wreck any
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  Speaker 1: day doesn't have to be your fault, and he got
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  Speaker 1: into a fender bender, yes to take the exact same day.
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me. I did investigate. He did not
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  Speaker 1: hit Bill Simmons of the ringer, so that was worried
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  Speaker 1: that maybe he ran into the back of Bill Simmons.
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  Speaker 1: Also not wearing a seatbelt. Can't blame Lamela for this one.
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  Speaker 1: Fitty cannot do that. But anyway, he's all right. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: was all right.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just ridiculous that it was literally a
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  Speaker 3: few hours after we had that whole conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It's just crazy man like stuff. There seems to always
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  Speaker 1: be a direct correlation between real world events and the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that we are spewing here on this show. You
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  Speaker 1: put it into the ether and something's gonna happen. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a matter of when and who. It's dangerous. It
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  Speaker 1: was Fitty on the roads dangerous when we thankfully you're okay.
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  Speaker 1: All jokes aside, Thankfully you're okay, because we didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to get We didn't want to get blamed if it
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  Speaker 1: was worse. No, but y'all, I'm not lying.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all are the first people I thought about when I
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  Speaker 2: when when it, I got back in my vehicle and
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  Speaker 2: made my way back down seventy four, and I mean back.
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  Speaker 2: It was It was a ten minute stop, Like, that's
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  Speaker 2: how like minor damage was done to but how equals how.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do an accident with a ten minute stop?
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  Speaker 1: That's that's impressive, man, But what are you, LaMelo? Did
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  Speaker 1: you get picked up? Just drive away?
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  Speaker 2: Like when I got back home, when I texted y'all,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, they are going to absolutely love this
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  Speaker 2: for the how hilarious it was consider what we talked
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  Speaker 2: about six hours prior to the incident happening.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm okay, They're okay. That's the most important thing.
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  Speaker 3: And I will admit I did a thirty I did
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  Speaker 3: a thirty second stop one time after an incident. There's
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  Speaker 3: a I've said a light and some dude just runs
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  Speaker 3: in to the back of me.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, are you blind? Did you not see me
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  Speaker 3: sitting there? So we pull over into the gas station,
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  Speaker 3: we get out of our cars. He looks at his
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  Speaker 3: there's hardly there's not anything there, and of course he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want the insurance brought in because it was all
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  Speaker 3: his fault. And I look at mine and I'm like
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  Speaker 3: that a play, I'll tell have a good life, sir.
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  Speaker 3: And we just rolled out, no insurance, no anything. But
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  Speaker 3: other than that, I feel like I'm always there for
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  Speaker 3: like an.
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  Speaker 1: Hour or whatever. Oh. I remember when I first got
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  Speaker 1: to Charlotte. I got hit by some guy and I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't feel like I was very young. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel like dealing with all the hubbub of the of
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  Speaker 1: the cops and the insurance. I said, yeah, man, accidents,
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  Speaker 1: having no worry about it. And then I heard a
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  Speaker 1: scraping sound on my way home back. I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: my bumper was half off. I didn't even stop the
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  Speaker 1: even Yeah, you might want to take some time about that.
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  Speaker 1: My dad and I'm late. I might need some money here.
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  Speaker 1: I was twenty years old. I'm like, yeah, that's what's insurance.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me, did you get the guys info? I said,
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  Speaker 1: what inful?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: We just And then my bumper was scraping, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: I go ahead, certain to't worry about it. A good day, sir,
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  Speaker 1: favorite makes mistakes. Yeah, sometimes you got to learn the
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  Speaker 1: hard way bone in life. Apparently, I now I would
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  Speaker 1: go full NASCAR driver, and to confront that other driver,
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  Speaker 1: I'd get up in their face.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, maybe if Murphy was with you, maybe that's the
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  Speaker 3: only way you go to end up doing that. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk football. We've got the Panthers and Bills tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, Joe Brady, we felt like the starters were
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  Speaker 3: playing because the defensive coordinator basically said that Jim Leonard
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  Speaker 3: in Buffalo a few days ago. So I've kind of
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  Speaker 3: been saying the Bill starters are playing, but like, that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean Josh Allen's playing. And you didn't hear
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  Speaker 3: it from the head coach until yesterday in Buffalo. Josh
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  Speaker 3: Allen didn't play a snap in the preseason last year, right,
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  Speaker 3: and it sounds like he will play tomorrow. So again
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  Speaker 3: I like it. Man, give us the best you got
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  Speaker 3: first of all, for you know, to challenge the Panthers, right,
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  Speaker 3: we want to play the best. We want our best
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  Speaker 3: against your best, and whatever happens, it's going to make
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  Speaker 3: us better, it's going to help us. But also from
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  Speaker 3: a watchability standpoint, you know what I mean, you want
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  Speaker 3: the star players in there. One guy that will not
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  Speaker 3: be playing for the Panthers is Cuba Hubbard. He's got
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  Speaker 3: a hamstring injury. Bone doesn't sound too serious, but it
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  Speaker 3: will keep him out. So now, Jonathan Brooks Canal has
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  Speaker 3: admitted yesterday, Yeah, we'll work Etnn and Dylan in earlier
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  Speaker 3: than we thought. But Jonathan Brooks might even get more
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  Speaker 3: work tomorrow bone in his return to football action.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a good thing to get him
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  Speaker 1: in there early on and take some hits, get the
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  Speaker 1: confidence going with the body. I'm not panicking about Cuba,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't love it based off the injuries of
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  Speaker 1: last year. He was slowed down by the injury last year,
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  Speaker 1: the caffe injury right last year. I believe it was
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  Speaker 1: so for them early in the season. As we've mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to have their offense humming against
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  Speaker 1: the Bears. I'm not saying it's going to take him
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  Speaker 1: out of that game, but I want Cuba full health
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  Speaker 1: ready to go week number one here. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: losing sleep over it, but I'm certainly not really loving
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Youuba's got something going on early here
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  Speaker 1: in the season.
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  Speaker 3: We'll let you hear what Canalis said about the Cuba injury.
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  Speaker 3: We'll also let you hear what he said about the
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  Speaker 3: Waller move coming up in a little bit, but basically
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  Speaker 3: he's pretty confident you will be back for Week one,
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  Speaker 3: so let's let's throw Brooks out there. Man, Let's not
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  Speaker 3: let's let's let's get him, Let's get him going.
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  Speaker 1: Fully. Yes, I said it yesterday. It has been twenty
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  Speaker 1: one months since the dude has played in a football game.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's go time, baby, it is the training wheels off,
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  Speaker 1: It's go time. And by all accounts, he's had one
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  Speaker 1: hell of a training camp so far. And I was
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  Speaker 1: listening to Josh Norris Yahoo Yahoo's podcast was doing a
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  Speaker 1: NFC sound deep dive and it's nothing. It's the same
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  Speaker 1: spirit of what we're saying here. But like you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's a Panther fan.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he loves the Panthers and he he thinks
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Brooks is the like.
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  Speaker 1: Can take this thing to another level. Man.
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  Speaker 3: And it's again, it's not anything we're not thinking, but
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  Speaker 3: this is a guy knows the team really well.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: This Chewba Hubbard's real good. But you want a running
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  Speaker 3: mate for him, man, you know what I mean. And
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  Speaker 3: you you also need you need dynamic place and that's
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  Speaker 3: what Brooks has the ability to give. So I'm ready
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  Speaker 3: to see him tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Put schewball and ice like they're doing Unray Sea's multimorrow.
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  Speaker 1: It's a multi back league. You need versatility, you need
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  Speaker 1: different books, guys that do different stuff. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're looking forward to. Fitty. If you think twenty one
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  Speaker 1: months is a long time, what would people think about
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  Speaker 1: four years, two hundred and eleven days, twelve hours and
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  Speaker 1: fourteen that's a lot of time. Wall Fit Dog.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't.
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  Speaker 2: You don't got to remind me?
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  Speaker 1: What do you got a countdown on your phone? No,
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  Speaker 1: he tells me when he gets through the update, when
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  Speaker 1: he comes in here every day. That's sad. That is
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  Speaker 1: very very sad. What satura that I have? The numbers?
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  Speaker 1: Those are the numbers. Both are very sad. Both of
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  Speaker 1: those things are sad. Listen, So what we're going to
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  Speaker 1: come back on Monday. I have a good feeling, Fitty.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna come back on Monday. We're gonna reset that clock,
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  Speaker 1: big dog. It's your weekend righter. What you're playing is, Fitty,
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  Speaker 1: what you got going on?
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  Speaker 2: Running countdown to kickoff tomorrow, hosting post game tomorrow, Washington
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  Speaker 2: NASCAR Race.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, baby, You know you go a lot
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  Speaker 3: of opportunities there. Maybe September a month at a lot
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  Speaker 3: of opportunities. So anyway, that's the latest on show. We'll
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  Speaker 3: let you hear what coach canal Is said about yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: We'll also touch on the other injuries that are going on.
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  Speaker 3: Derek Brown still kind of working on the side, so
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't really seem like he's going to play tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: But we did have Damian Lewis and Rob Hunt back
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  Speaker 3: together as on the field at the same time in
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  Speaker 3: team drills for the first time in a while, so
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  Speaker 3: that is that is good progress as well.
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  Speaker 1: Just waits. Matthew works and waits for that moment and
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  Speaker 1: he got you on that one. Let me ask you
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  Speaker 1: this bone.
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  Speaker 3: Last night there were six NFL preseason games and there
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  Speaker 3: was this Field of Dreams game that they play in
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  Speaker 3: the corn in Iowa. Phillies beat the Twins seven to one.
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  Speaker 3: Did you watch any of this stuff last night? What
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  Speaker 3: were you watching?
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  Speaker 1: I had the NFL games on and I had the
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  Speaker 1: baseball game on the side TV kind of paying slight attention,
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  Speaker 1: but not fully so. I had I had both on.
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  Speaker 1: I was more into football, but I also the baseball
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  Speaker 1: game wasn't very competitive or close either, So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was doing a little a little dibble dabble on both there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying my investment was completely locked in. I
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  Speaker 1: was zoning out a little bit. I was reading a
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  Speaker 1: book actually for a little while, so I was I
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  Speaker 1: had them a little while. I decided to jump in there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame you for this. I don't blame you.
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  Speaker 1: I blame it's fun, Phil, it's fun. I blame the
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  Speaker 1: blueprint back there, as they call them, the station blueprint.
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  Speaker 3: Back there were we were a football I don't know why,
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  Speaker 3: says we. It was me watching the game with a
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  Speaker 3: dog laying there next to me. But I was all
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  Speaker 3: about the football last night. It was that I didn't
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  Speaker 3: even some sporting events bone. I don't even bother to
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  Speaker 3: plug in my second TV. I didn't even I didn't
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  Speaker 3: even bother to plug in the second team. The Field
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  Speaker 3: of Dreams thing, I feel like we've kind of seen
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  Speaker 3: it was kind of cool, yeah, and now I'm kind
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  Speaker 3: of kind of over it. I love the CBS Sports
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  Speaker 3: headline macket. If you were not paying attention, you would say,
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  Speaker 3: what in the world's going on? Twenty six Hall of
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  Speaker 3: Famers appear out of the corn on Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: That's the headline, Like, excuse me, what's going on there Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, yes, I saw the headline too, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel like I missed anything that was planned, that
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  Speaker 3: wasn't something that just happened organically. Oh my god, there's
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  Speaker 3: Hall of famers out of the corner. And I thought
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  Speaker 3: those guys. I thought these guys were dead. They came back.
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  Speaker 3: Now that one what happened. Let's talk about football, because
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  Speaker 3: that's what I was watching last night. Bone and again
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  Speaker 3: it's preseason football. It's I'm not gonna act like Bone.
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  Speaker 3: It was full intensity for the whole night. I certainly
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  Speaker 3: didn't read a book. I didn't do anything that crazy now,
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  Speaker 3: but some of the headlines. Mendoza makes his debut with
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  Speaker 3: the Raiders. He was very hard on himself after the game.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't get great pass protection, like he struggled a
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  Speaker 3: little bit to a six under pressure, but he was
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  Speaker 3: eight to ten when he wasn't pressured.
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  Speaker 1: He threw a dime over the middle. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you saw it. It was a tiny window throw
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  Speaker 1: over the middle. He had a touchdown pass. So I
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  Speaker 1: think that was probably the headline the night.
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  Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is starting there, and that's fine, and he
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  Speaker 3: may start the regular season, but it'll be Mendoza's team eventually.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love eleven carries fifty eight yards as a rookie
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: back in that game for Arizona. Aaron Rodgers didn't play
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  Speaker 3: for Pittsburgh. I tried to make it a big mystery.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers play? Will he not play? He did not
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  Speaker 3: play last night. Drew Aller? Is this going to happen?
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Is Drew Aller going to be a much better pro
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: quarterback than than college quarterback? And me and all the
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Penn State fans are going to have to continue to
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  Speaker 3: just lose our minds that he was used wrong in
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  Speaker 3: the off and you tried to fit him into an
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  Speaker 3: offense that didn't fit. He had three touchdown drives that
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: he led yesterday when he got in there in the
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  Speaker 3: second half.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Watch hour and club Nick now ball out back a
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: year after we thought they were going to be heist
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  Speaker 1: making tenders.
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  Speaker 3: The club Knick thing's another thing right that Clemson fans,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: y'all can y'all can handle how you want to handle
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: that one. The Drew Aller thing is they shoehorned him
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  Speaker 3: into an offense that really didn't fit him, and Penn
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  Speaker 3: State fans a really fear that this dude is going
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  Speaker 3: to be a really good NFL quarterback and it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be proof of how pathetic the usage of him was.
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  Speaker 3: At Penn St eight Club Nick Jets. Jets played tonight
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  Speaker 3: right yeah, yes against the Bucks Jets, Bucks and then
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  Speaker 3: Falcons Broncos tonight. So we got a couple NFC South
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  Speaker 3: teams in action tonight. NFL Network is the Jets, Bucks
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: and ESPN Unlimited is Broncos Falcons.
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  Speaker 1: They have a game on there today. Best thing, what
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: is ESPN Unlimited? I don't understand. Am I supposed to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: get this? That the Russell Wilson of ESPN, Yes, he
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: should do ads for it, although he works for CBS.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: But ESPN Unlimited, Yeah, that's the that's the thing that
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: started late last year, the new uh supposed to be
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: new and improved ESPN whatever it was called before. But yeah,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I have it because that's where that's where the wrestling
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: pay per views are on now. So I have to
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: do you have to pay for this separately?
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  Speaker 3: Because I like in the past, I get all the
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: ESPN plus stuff, the games.
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  Speaker 1: Is this separate because it didn't appear? It did not appear,
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  Speaker 1: But I could watch that game last time I do
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  Speaker 1: pay for But YouTube TV also just has a thing
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  Speaker 1: now also that they added on last week where it
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  Speaker 1: also comes with that now, so it's on there too.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't really figured that part out yet, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'll just watch it on there going forward.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I'm true, because yeah, I'm trying to figure figure this out.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: If this is different, I don't think I paid any
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: extra for it. I think am I still being charged
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: when I was being charged before?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I believe that app? I think so. And why couldn't
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I watch the damn game last night? I'm not asking
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you master now. The problem is the world. The problem
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: that I have, and I've always had this with the ESPN,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: whether it's this version the previous version, signing in for
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: me is always a problem. I try to sign in.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it works on the previous What was the ESPN
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Plus before? What was it called before? Whatever? The hell
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it was WORSTPN plus right, yeah? Whatever. There were times
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: where I could watch certain things on there, and then
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I would go to something else and it would tell
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: me to sign in, and I'd say, well, I'm already,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I'm already in, and then I would not know my
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: path I've always had a problem with all ESPN stuff.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Try to sign in and sometimes it works for me,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. This one's been working, but they presented
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: it as this whole new thing, and it's like, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: don't really know how different it actually is. Well, I
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: hope it's not different, because I just assumed I would
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: get this and then I clicked on it and it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't allow me to watch it. It gave me some
• 17:17
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• 17:18
  Speaker 3: So like I just I've got a lot of questions,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: but I will I will do the research here, Bony,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: all right, I will not use your time and the
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: listener's time anymore.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: But I am curious. It's like, am I still paying anyway?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: The way striveling as we're looking at. Rookie Stribbling is
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: a rookie wide out from Old Miss for the Niners.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Had nice game last night. He was flowing up. He's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: been that's big for that because they got some Uh.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but Brandon and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I you might not be in their plans and you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: think they can't count on them bone for the season
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: we do need. Yeah, he had a big game and
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: he's had a big camp. We do need to mention
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the Hornets schedule. We will Fitty and Walker Mayo later
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: we'll do the full eighty two game breakdown. But anyway,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: you have Charles Lee and studio today. If Walker there's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: a chance Walker files them in here just to talk about.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Musa that could be going on later, that's it. We
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: got to get security working out here. But as far
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: as the Hornet schedule goes six National TV games, everybody
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: has more now because of the new TV deal. There's
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: just more games on National TV. They have put both
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: both LaMelo games are on National TV, and both con
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Versus Cooper games Love It are on National TV, so
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: you can clearly see the angle that they're thinking. Then
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: there's a celic game and a random pacer game thrown
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: in on National vav as.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: We have a back to back National TV games in February,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: back to back games on National when's the last time
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that's happened? Prime on one night and then the Monday
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: after that it's the one to get the national Wonderflamelow
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I knew.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Last time that happened is I think nineteen ninety six.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I think bout it was the last time November of
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: All over that. I just made that up. I just
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: made I.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Have no idea when the last I tried to act
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: like I did, though I did next.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: You tried on a Thursday. Friday. It's Friday, isn't it? Yes, man,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: we made it to Friday. They open at Brooklyn. Did
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: we open against Brooklyn last year? I think so?
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Are they putting us like this is what they think
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: of us? You go play the Nets week one. All
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the other matchups will be attractive for everybody else. We
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: open at Brooklyn Wednesday, October twenty first, and then the
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: home opener is against Atlanta that Friday, October twenty third.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: So those are some of the tidbits about the Hornets.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yea, we have Miami early, we got Detroit twice in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the first ten Philadelphia, but we also have Brooklyn twice,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and that's that in October in or early November for
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the second one, and the Wizards twice. Mac. I don't
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: love that, only because not that I don't think we
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: can beat the Nets. In the Wizards. I'd rather play
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: them later on in the year when they quit like
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the Nets and the Wizards look like they're better at
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: some point, Trey Young's just gonna sit out, and Anthony Davis,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: if he's there, we'll just sit out. I don't like
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: playing the Wizards twice early when they might be trying.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I'd rather just play them later on in the year
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and just have them not play anybody. I'd like to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: plan more. That's what I'd like to play them early
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and late, although the Wizards they're better. Though, this is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: over unders like what ours is? Are you calling the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Wizards out? Baby? Are you you you trying to calling
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the Wizard fans out? You ever met a Wizard's fan?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there an online fight between like the Crown Club
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and the Wizards fans?
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Wizards?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: That did happen? All right? Man, good talk, Bony, good start,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: good start, baby. I love it when we come back
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: here in the Mack and Bone Show, Dave Canalis on
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the Tuba injury and the Waller move, Haines King gets
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: some love, gets some love from a respected film guru,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and we preview playing those bills on Saturn Sports Radio
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: n WFNZ.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got an MRI on it. You got a hamstring,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: it's a legit hamstring. It's week to week right now.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: The way we see it. So we're gonna get him
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: in RTP, We're gonna get him some treatment. Very confident
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: he'll be ready for Game one. Trying to get him
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: out there sooner than that, but again we'll be smart
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: about it. We'll get him back in the appropriate time.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: There you go, big news. Tuba's got a legit hamstring.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Everybody a legit ham string. That makes me feel better
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: if you if you do not follow football and speak
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: football coach injury lingo, like say you played that for
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you know, like if you got a wife or a
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: girlfriend that doesn't pay any attention to football or football
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: press conferences, what's that like? You would be you would
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: be like, why is he telling the world that this
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: guy has a hamstring and it's a legit hamstring? Like
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: it's the old John Fox injury John Fox would read
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the injury list off and just this guy's got a knee,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: that guy's gotta that guy's got a leg, that guy's
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: got a foot.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, of course they do. They all they have
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: all those body parts. Yeah, we're gonna Fitty's got a leg.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Max gota growing, all right, So Max got a growing
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: all right? Well that's we're curious, but he does have
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a growing He also worked in a little RTP there.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm down with RTP. Yeah, you know me bone that
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: is return to play. That is that is in Canalis lingo,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that is return to play. Well, yes, what does that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: look on your face? Fitty, but that's not a cool moment.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I took a lot of flak for not knowing the
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: hip hop game, and I just worked out a little
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: you down with RTP.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I used to love the notorious RTP back when I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was younger.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out when he said RTP,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: what that meant goes you know, I know r P
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: O beans run past option.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what RTP meant.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I also was trying to figure out, how would a
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: coach talk about Khalil's you know, Khalil's Khalil.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: He's got a cant you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Know if he has a legit hamstring. Khalil has a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: legit Khalil. Alrighty, alrighty, that's what my mind was that
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: at six twenty eight on a Friday.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's do it. Let's talk
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: a little Carolina Panthers. Let's talk a little Carolina Panthers
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: football right here, Let's let you hear what well, let's
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: let you hear what Dave Canal said about Darren Waller.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: That was the big news yesterday.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: And again he's not gonna doesn't seem like he'll officially
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: sign until after the preseason game. Mike k was kind
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: of explaining, you know, roster rotations, and they're just gonna
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: leave Waller wouldn't play anyway, bones, so they're just gonna
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: kind of keep all the roster spots as is and
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: head to Buffalo for tomorrow's one o'clock game. Uh, but
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Darren Waller's definitely joining, and Dave Canal has talked all
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: about him, and the first, you know, the first question
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: he was asked, is you know why the move?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Would you like about to pull the trigger on this move?
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just watching him over the years. He
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: had a fantastic game here when they came last season
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: and made some big plays against us. Again, just on
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: brand with Dan and I just looking for ways to
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: challenge our roster, challenge our rooms, bring different types of
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: talent into the rooms to really challenge the group and
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: see what we have there. And we felt like it
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: was a good fit There was a lot of conversations
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: back and forth about, you know, just the vision and
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: the group that he's coming into. So felt comfortable about that,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: found an agreement, and then we'll bring him in and
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: do the physical and all that stuff.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Shortly, so Bone yesterday you the bone phone was ringing
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: after the show and I didn't even make this connection,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: but somebody was on the other line that knows Darren
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Waller pretty well. It was pretty good perspective, right. Brenson
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Buckner was part of the staff with the Raiders when
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: he went off a number of years ago and became
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. He was raving
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: about how big he could be for the Panther offense,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: what a matchup Nightmary could be. Obviously Bug had him,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you know, in his best of years, so we're trying
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to figure out what does he have now at age
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: thirty three. But buck was talking about how he completely
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: alters the defense and what's on the field. You have
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to go multiple safeties or almost almost a bunch of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: safeties out there. He completely alters the defensive game plan
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: because he's a tight end body with wide receiver speed,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and he completely changes all the matchups big time. Just
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: as President's alone back, you have to account for it
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: big time, Like you can't cover that dude with a linebacker. No,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you know, you you could put a linebacker on Tremblin
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Evans and you can, you know, let maybe maybe you
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: can win that matchup, maybe you lose it. But with Waller,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. Even at this age, I would
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, you can't do that. Certainly you're
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: not getting you know, the he's going to turn thirty
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: four next month, so you're not getting you know, the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: fool in the prime, Darren Waller. But again, my whole
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: thing thing is can he be better for this football
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: team than JT. Sanders? Can he get down the seam
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and can we pick up eighteen down the seam? You know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: can he you know, be that mismatch guy because JT.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Sanders came in here bone and we thought that's who
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he was, and I'm not sure he is. And Dave
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Canal has used the word challenge. This is a move
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to challenge the roster, and he also said Waller knows
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: he's coming in here, this is a competition. So this
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: is one where it's like Waller, I really feel this way,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: he's not saying that, but like it really feels to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: me like Waller versus Sanders for a roster spot, you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: especially if you keep Felipe Franks because of special teams
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: as the fourth tight end. Yeah, if they do that,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it's all about the health of Waller. But you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: if it goes by just pure talent and the matchups
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that we're talking about, Waller should win out. But age
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: is on the side of Sanders health as well. Sanders
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: has not been healthy himself, so I guess I can't
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: say that, but if Waller's healthy, then I would suggest
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that he's the He's the guy. That's the thing is,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you got a game play much more for a guy
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: like Waller than he do Sanders. Teams have to spend
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: time thinking about how they're going to utilize Waller. And again,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I know the red zone and the red zone options
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: or six touchdowns last year and nine games, right like so,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and again I think he had seven red zone targets
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and six touchdowns off those.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if I had seven deep targets, called five
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: of those where where our tight ends didn't catch one
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: deep ball last year. So it's just it's it's a
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: type of tight end we've really been lacking. Hell, let's
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: face it, since Greg Olson, we've been lacking a tight
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: end that is a big time passing game threat. But
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: this did to be a good compliment.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to play more snaps than Tremble.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: He probably won't play more snaps and Mitchell Evans, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: that role, that role is something that we wanted Sanders
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: to do, and I think the team is sending him
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: a message in us, a message that he's not doing it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: But it also allows you, maybe because I think they
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: do like Mitchell Evans. I think it also allows you
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to kind of bring him along too, at his own pace.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: If if Waller can come in and step in.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: You see Mitchell Evin's different type of player too. Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, Mitch, get down and block. He
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: gonna put He's gonna he gonna put you down.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: People are upset back that you completely you said the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: best identity it's Olsen. You forgot Ian Thomas on that list.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Have the the core player that's on you man, the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: core piece of the team. Uh. We also want to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: wrap Aport's most shameless ventures. By the way, just reading
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it off from the agent two, Yeah, that was embarrassing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: That was embarrassing. Guy. He's one of the core members
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: of the team and they just locked him up on
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a deal though. You just copy and pasted that from
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: what the agent told you. All respect the Aan Thomas
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Marrigg went against Darren Waller in practice a bunch
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: when they were both with the Raiders, and yesterday Marrig
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: was asked about Darren Waller.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Great matchup, so it was always fun going against a Waller.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: But man, he's he's just a great guy, you know
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: in the locker room, outside the outside of the locker room.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Obviously a great athlete, very you know, very gifted. So
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: you know, it's excited to see, you know, possible coming
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: out here and helping his team.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: So there you go, man, exciting move again. I'm not
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: acting like we're getting, you know, at all pro I'm
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: not acting like we're getting Darren Waller in his prime.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: But that's a role stretched a field a little bit,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: give us more in the passing game downfield. It's it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: it's a niche that we could use, no doubt about it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: You teased it bone earlier when you were going to
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: break one of the most respected film guru types in
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the NFL media.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: It's great, coselle No, you just dased it. I was great.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Cosell is one of the most respected film guys out
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: there in the NFL media.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: We know it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: We used to have him on the show Is as
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: a regular way back in the day. Bone and uh,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: he spoke about watching the film of Haines King in
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game, and uh, it was interesting.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I he obviously didn't get drafted because there
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: was a sense that he just wasn't a good enough thrower.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: And that's fair because I did him coming out. But see,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: I thought the game was a little more interesting for
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: him than it was for Beck because he actually made
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: some throws that had a sense of timing and anticipation,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: So it was irrelevant about the coverage. I just watched
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: him and said, oh, he threw that before the receiver
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: even broke. That's something you want to see from Haines
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: King that you have to do in the NFL, because
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: in the NFL, anticipation is really is the receiver going
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: to be open? That's what anticipation is in the NFL,
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: which is not what it is in college football. And
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: then he made a tight window throw in the two
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: minute at the end of the game, and that was
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: a confident throw. So again, I'm not sitting here saying,
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: you know, wow, Hain's King is now an NFL quarterback.
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: But to me, watching Haines King in that kind of
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: game gave me a little more insight than watching Carson Beck,
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: who I would have expected to play well because that's
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: kind of who he is.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Interesting there, interesting that last part. It's that last part.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: It seemed like it was a diss of of Haines King.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: But I get what he's saying. Carson Beck played in
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: more of a pro style offense. It's more understandable that
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: he can come in and run a pro style offense.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: For Haines King, this was different. He was asked to
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: do different things. Man and uh and Cosell and all
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: of us saw them do those things.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: He did and he missed. He missed an easy one,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and that's what he's gonna He's got to get that
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: out of the bag and be able to hit the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: hit the the basic throws because that's you know, something
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that he you know sometimes with him, it's it's he
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: can make the spectacular plays, and it's the easy one.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Sometimes like that on the throws, you wonder how did
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: he miss that one? But that's why we thought it
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: was a little absurd back when Panthers Twitter thought that
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the Panthers were trying to stash him and not play him.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: If there's anyone that needs more reps in the preseason,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: it's Haines King throwing the football and getting comfortable at
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: this level. So the more we go on, the more
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I think about it, everyone thinking, oh, they're gonna stash
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: them now. They they need him out there if they
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: want to get the best out of him and continue
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the progress of what we saw against Arizona. You're not
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: sitting Haines King. You're working on those throws and getting
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: better and better in these games right here. Because he's
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: not gonna play a lot in the regular season. No,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: this is what he's gonna get is working.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: So I agree with you, and hopefully we can see
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: him again, Hopefully he can get some reps again and
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: then you know, and we'll see. We'll see how they
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: handle the roster situation. And I know some people think, oh,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: he's gonna end up on an I R. We'll see
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: how that plays out. We'll talk about that as that continues.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Bills and Panthers. Tomorrow one o'clock, KB and I and
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  Speaker 1: Who.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about this bone a little bit more at
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: seven o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills. The Bills are a good team to play too.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: We talked about I'm excited that Josh Allen and all
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: their starters are playing because I want a real test
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: for our starters. You want to play good teams too,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: and to be able to play them, then be able
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: to have a have joint practice events with Houston and Jacksonville.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: You're talking about three playoff teams in a row. That's
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: a freaking good thing, man.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And one of them is the best could be
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: the best events in football in Houston in the joint session.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville a team MATC. We saw the fan optimism rankings yesterday.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville was one ahead of the Panther. So that's a
• 33:32
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  Speaker 1: as you said during a break, Buffalo just playing their
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: starters one series has completely shifted the line to Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: by three. I don't bet on the preseason NFL stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, how does that work? So one drive from Josh
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Allen potentially and that's worth like a four point swing. Yes,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: so I guess what are they thinking? He gets a
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  Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough. I'm not smarter to don't figure
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  Speaker 1: people with the things I do bet on. I don't
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  Speaker 1: I prez eason football's too. I can't you lay off that.
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  Speaker 1: That's just that's just simply guessing and throw I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what baseball gambling, I think is throwing money away
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  Speaker 1: too for the most port, because it really is the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: guessing game. But preseason football, I'm just maybe if you
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  Speaker 1: do an in game I guess, if you see how
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the game is going and judge it that way, new
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: guys will be coming in. You'll see how it's going
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and the new guys. But if you're if you're betting
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: on Pittsburgh Green Bay last night, are you betting that
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Drew Aller is going to lead three scoring drives? Or
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: would you probably bet that that it wouldn't go? You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just there's so many people
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  Speaker 1: playing the game, so what are you betting it based off?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I can't do that, like I think I'm gonna lose money.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I'll do it during the regular team.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, the points the point spread changed that
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: much because the bill starters are playing. But don't you like,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: don't this the reserves settle preseason games?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So like it's it's kind of weird to me.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's like if you bet on the Baseball All Star Game,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you're not or any also, especially that one you're not
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: betting on the starters. You're betting on the other guys
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: that come in and finish the game, the depth of
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  Speaker 1: here on the Mack and Bow Show football headlines, Daniels
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: versus LSU continues, we have another reason to be annoyed
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: with the Panthers Week one opponent. That would be the
• 36:16
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• 36:48
  Speaker 8: In five and that was a situation that was promised
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: to him in recruiting here for him to sign here.
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: And I've done a lot of research on that with
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: the family and the reports and the people and so
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: really out I didn't have a decision to make. It
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: was promised to the kid, wasn't done For whatever, I'm
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: not going to get into that. I'm not going to
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: judge something I wasn't here of, but when the kids
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: promised something to come to school, you should wear it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: And so at that point I don't really think that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: my decision, you know, to be honor what he was told.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: That's right now.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin loved talking about this situation with the number
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: five jersey in LSU.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Man, what a mess? What a mess? Okay, So the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: plot thickens boned never a sign that we need games
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to start more than this all deal. And that's what
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: covers the NFL at college right now. This, this is,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: this is absurd on so many levels.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Jaydeon Daniels being mad that this kid DJ pick at
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: this cornerback for LSU has number one or number five
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: and he doesn't want to anybody wearing his damn number
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: because he won a heisman there and it's it's crazy,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: but what he is, what.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Lane is alluding to there bone is the plot thickening.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I did not realize this part of it yesterday when
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: we talked about it, that Brian Kelly, when recruiting this
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: kid back in December of twenty twenty four, promised him
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: that he can wear number five because that's the number
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the kid has worn his his entire life. And then
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the kid gets to campus and Brian Kelly and the
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: staff don't let him wear number five. Last year he
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: had to wear number three. This is the least shocking
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: part of the whole story, is that Brian Kelly lied
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: to a kid.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just a bum.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: But anyway, that's done the moral of the story. But
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: so that's part of it there. So Brian Kelly leaves
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: and Lane Kiffin comes in and the kid, I guess, hey,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: can I wear five now? And Lane Kiffin, you heard
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: him talk about it there, had to figure out the
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: background of his story. I'd talked to DJ Pickett's family
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: and found out yeah, he was promised that. So Lane
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Kiffin wants to give him the number. But now once
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: he walked onto that practice field with the number five,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: oh my god, somebody must have sent a quick alert
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: bone to the Daniels family because for some reason this
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: is so important to Daniels family.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Breach breach, breach, breach, someone's wearing fine. The family has
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: been infiltrated.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Family, so they have they have issued to cease and
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: desist LSU over using Jade and Daniel's name of gin
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: likeness at all Jade and Daniels. There's also a report
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: bone that the Daniels family wants LSU to.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Give back their.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Not copy but their heisman, like a school gets the
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the player gets the heisman, and a school gets a
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: heisman to display in their trophy case. Essentially, they want
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: LSU to give that back over this this is crazy, man.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And then you got Joe Burrows having to answer questions
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: about it last night where he's saying, I don't really
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on. What a what a mess bag?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And it involves you know, it involves kiffin On not
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: his fault, but it does involve Kiffen and drama. It
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: involves Brian Kelly and drama. It's crazy a family being
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a pain in the rear for Jadon Daniels. It is
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a man. Oh man, it's I guess it's I get
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: seen from a scripted football television. It's insane, but it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Will give us an opportunity to bring back our segment
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: that we hadn't done a while.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Who's the Blee Pole? Because it's seven.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Forty five and there could be the answer could be
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: multiple people, but we will ask who is the bleepole
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: in this complete mess?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Who are you blaming? Who are you calling out? Because
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: this just doesn't feel necessary.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: It is not.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: It's also a dream segment because it does involve Brian
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Kelly as well. You could always throw him into these mix.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I believe he is getting himself a you know, blee
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: pole status for probably the zillionth time of his life.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: But anyway, so we'll talk about that. But that's kind
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: of where that stands. The kid, DJ Pickett did a
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: presser yesterday and said, I'm wearing it. That's what I've
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: wear war my whole life. I'm aware number Jaden.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I love you man, you.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Were great here at LSU, but I'm wearing your number.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: So that's what he said at a pressler yesterday. All right,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: So other headlines, other football headlines, Bone, how about this?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: This the the Bears. I am so ready to play
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the Bears. They kind of annoy me. I don't know
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: about you. You had the whole dust up between Panther
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: fans and Bear fans after the Bryce Young trade where they,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you know, wanted to yap constantly about that and then
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and kind of try to turn that into a fan
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: rivalry and they get hyped up so much. I mean,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the infatuation that ESPN has with the Bears is I mean,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not a good up and coming team,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: but they're one of the team's bone. Like goes back
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: to Justin Fields. Remember how much they cared about Justin Fields. Yeah,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't think they'd care about him
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: if he played here in Carolina that much. It's a
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: lot of talk for a franchise that they're they're on
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the up. There, they're on the they're up and coming.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt that they're getting better. Bet Johnson, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: think is a hell of a football coach, but Mack historically,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the Bears get a lot of attention and for not
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: really doing a whole lot do they I know that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the team in the eighties is one of the best
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of all time. They went to a Super Bowl where
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: they played Peyton Manning. But in my lifetime, the Bears
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: have not really done a whole lot and they get
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: talked about a whole bunch and let me, their fans
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: act like they're one of the you know, better franchises
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: when you're really not. You're in a big market. But
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you haven't done a whole lot.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: So let me give you the latest thing, the latest
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: thing I read that has me annoyed with the Bears.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: This is Ben Johnson talking to Dan Pompey of the
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Athletic Our goal is to win the Super Bowl, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I want more than that. I want to have the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: highest scoring offense ever, which happens to be the twenty
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: thirteen Broncos. I know how many points per game they scored,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: thirty seven point nine, and I want to surpass them.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I want shutouts, I want blowouts. He also Bone would
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: like to set the consecutive record for wins. It's twenty
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: one by the Patriots. He would like to break that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: So what's with this bluster? The boy Wonder. He's a
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: good coach, But the boy Wonder's got an ego. You
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: saw it with the way he trolled the floor. Yeah,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: and I kind of enjoyed that because I was on
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: the outside looking at that. This dude, like what coach
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: talks that way that winning the Super Bowl is not enough.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: We have to do all these other record setting things too. Seriously,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: this dude's got it is. The ego of this dude
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: is definitely growth. Also, Ben Johnson, to be that team,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: you might want to go ahead and get a better defense. Also,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I know that you signed some guys. I know again
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: you are getting better, but you got the offense probably humming,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: but you're not a finite product at either man. Where
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: are you even ranking in the NFT North right now
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: with the Lions, the Packers.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And we'll see about minutes.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Just seems a little presumptuous to where the super Bowl
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: is not enough to make him happy. Seems a little presumptuous,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: not as likable Ben Johnson as Fernando mendo Fernando Mendoza,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: My lord, this is this is the nicest NFL QB
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: since Tim Tebow.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: There is a whole in the lead that Tim Tebow did.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Tim Tebo got a playoff. Wins thought that was your guy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: You turned on him. What was done in my past?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Life has done all right? All right, So skater boat,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: he's gone now all right, he's gone. He's no longer
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: talked about. Listen time, Listen to this from Mendoza. He
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: was asked about going to the Vegas Strip now that
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: he plays in Vegas, and he said that he has
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: to avoid that. It's not good for it would not
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: be good for him to go to the Vegas strip,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and he gave them the median analogy, said, it's like
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: when you're trick or treating as a kid, and you
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: know which house is the scary haunted house, and you
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: got to stay away from there.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: He compared the Vegas script strip to a scary haunted
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: house when you're a child. Oh, he is the perfect
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: QB to go to, I guess and Kirk Cousins. Kirk
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Cousin's pretty wholesome too. I feel like that's the perfect
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: mentor for Fernando.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: There needs to be the quarterback Netflix show with these
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: two guys.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Mac.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Can you see Kirk saying, Hey, Fernando, I want to
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: take you somewhere on the strip. Oh man, where are
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: we going? And they pass right by all the CD
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: places and they go to I hop Wow, thank you Kirk.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Talk about Fernando's quote also on Klick
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Kubiak scheme, Yeah this is good too, quote Rookie Year,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: it really gets slammed upon you. Boom, here's your playbook
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and here we go. It's like, Wow, I thought I
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: knew a lot. Holy shuck. How far behind I've got
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: to study this to feel confident in my preparation. Kyle
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Brand said, Fernando Mendoza is the bo Jackson of not cussing.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Holy shuck. Oh my god, that is. It's adorable. Honestly,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: it's adorable. I mean serious. Cousin is probably thinking, how
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: did I not take a holy shuck? Kirk Cousins is like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: this guy makes me seem like a badass. He is
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: such a goodie goodie. Oh my goodness, the good I heard.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: When Cousins was fighting Max Crosby last week, Fernando said, Man,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: holy shock. Was that something Kirk said? I know, holy shots?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine those two in a war of words
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: with Max Crosby. Max Crosby's f bombing the heck out
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: of that, sir, mister Crosby.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: You need to settle down. We are teammates, were on
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the same team. Oh, it's gonna get a call back
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: after a game. It's gonna be from Philip Rivers. He's
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: gonna say, man, I love them cuss words. You don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: use the fact that this is the QB drafted to Vegas.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: This is a trip, man, This really is. It really is.
• 46:45
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• 46:47
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• 46:51
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