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Back in the Garden Bryan and Tiger Live [112925] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: where we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping and more. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we'll discuss anything that has to do with growing plants
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  Speaker 1: and keeping your yard in tip top shape. Now here
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  Speaker 1: are your hosts, Brian Maine, John Bagnasco and Tiger Palafox
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  Speaker 1: on the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good morning, and welcome back to the Garden America Show.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, the que cards right in front of me, Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Just in case I forget what show this is. We
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  Speaker 2: are back at is a Saturday morning. If you're listening
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  Speaker 2: to us and watching us live. I'm Brian Main. We've
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  Speaker 2: got Tiger Palafox, who was at the control panel here.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like the second airport control tower station here
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  Speaker 2: the way. We've got everything hooked up this morning. But
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  Speaker 2: we are glad to have you back. We hope you
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  Speaker 2: had a great Thanksgiving and for some of us enjoying
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  Speaker 2: a what a four day weekend Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tiger,
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  Speaker 2: some of us somebody.
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  Speaker 3: You want not me? Did you work yesterday? I did
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  Speaker 3: not work yesterday, but I do work today. Or what
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  Speaker 3: is yesterday? No Friday? Yeah, it did work yesterday. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: all right, all the days are mixed up. I'm waiting.
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  Speaker 3: I'm waiting here because we have we have our very
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  Speaker 3: own jog Big Noasco on air with us right now,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm waiting to hear is ours if our audio
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  Speaker 3: comes back from his phone? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: You know, like you know, you know when he's sitting
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  Speaker 3: here and we go live and we can hear the
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  Speaker 3: show all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it didn't happen. John, Good morning, John, How
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  Speaker 3: are you? I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's interesting because with anything we do from a
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  Speaker 2: technology standpoint, especially something new, fingers are crossed, a few prayers,
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  Speaker 2: and guess what we've got John on the air.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: You are in Idaho for the next week or so.
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  Speaker 2: You've been there since last week, enjoying Thanksgiving with your family, right.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I'm coming home on Tuesday, looking forward to some
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  Speaker 4: warm weather.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's forty four degrees here right now. So
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  Speaker 2: which is actually your high?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: This is our low? Forty four is your high today?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Right around there, and it goes down to around twenty
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  Speaker 4: five at night.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty five degrees, And I know that's not even like
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  Speaker 3: the coldest, but that just seems mind blowing to kind
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  Speaker 3: of like think about feeling my toes are falling off now.
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  Speaker 2: So, John, what feels colder twenty five or forty four?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it depends what you're wearing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, I mean you get to a certain
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  Speaker 2: point where you know, it could be twenty or thirty
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  Speaker 2: it's still freezing. Ten degrees makes no difference. So what
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  Speaker 2: have you seen up there at this time of the year,
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  Speaker 2: anything that surprises you, or what's going on in Idaho
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  Speaker 2: during the month of November early December.
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  Speaker 5: You know what.
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  Speaker 4: Always surprises me is the the amount of plants you
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  Speaker 4: can see here that we don't have in California, even
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  Speaker 4: even warm plants. And I was trying to think, Tiger,
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  Speaker 4: why that is. And I think the variety is because
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  Speaker 4: there's more independent garden centers up here.
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  Speaker 3: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, down in San Diego we have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of mass merchants. If you want anything special, you've got
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  Speaker 4: to go to to either Mission Hill's Nursery or Green
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  Speaker 4: Thumb or maybe Walter Anderson's. But you know, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the same type of stuff. But here where
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  Speaker 4: there's a population, like the population of Idaho, the entire
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  Speaker 4: state is less than the population of San Diego County.
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  Speaker 3: Now. The garden centers up there, though, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: them are grower slash retailers, right, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know if a lot of them are. H One
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  Speaker 4: that's near there where my daughter lives, called Edwards Nursery,
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  Speaker 4: is a grower retailer. But there's other that others that
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  Speaker 4: are kind of like a miniature Rogers.
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  Speaker 3: Garden, got it, Yeah, they're not a girl, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just really unique.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I saw a couple of plants. Of course I had
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  Speaker 4: to buy and bring home.
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  Speaker 3: Gee, what a surprise.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I had never seen and you're probably familiar
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  Speaker 4: with it, tiger. But there's a miniature aonium. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's called it might be a variety of aim cedifolium. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: but anyway, I got that. And there was a mixed
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  Speaker 4: plant that had a jade plant in it, and I've
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  Speaker 4: never seen I've seen variegated jade plants, but I've never
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  Speaker 4: seen one with white variegation pure white.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and are those outdoor plants for them or
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  Speaker 3: or no?
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  Speaker 4: No, they know they're all, they're all indoors.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna say, because these there's varieties of
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  Speaker 3: plants that you're talking about, doesn't seem like they would
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  Speaker 3: be able to stand twenty five degree outside, right, So.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's why I thought. It's just so
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  Speaker 4: surprising here that they've got more of those type plants
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  Speaker 4: than we do in California.
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  Speaker 3: And how is the pricing there?
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  Speaker 4: I would say comparable? Okay, yeah, pretty comparable. My daughter
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  Speaker 4: bought a cyclom in which I had never seen before,
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  Speaker 4: and I've only seen one up here. They have a
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  Speaker 4: lot of different cyclemen, and you know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of new Cyclement, but she got one that that if
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  Speaker 4: you look at it, it looks like Adehlia.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I remember seeing that one. Yeah, what what color
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  Speaker 3: was hers?
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  Speaker 4: It was kind of a lavender, Yeah, it was okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's why you brought in at one time. I think
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  Speaker 4: it was the Jicks variety.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was like a single single pedal yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: From Shoon Felts or somewhere like that in the back
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  Speaker 4: of the flower is actually the interesting part.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's fun. Did they only have the one
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  Speaker 3: color or did they have multiple colors?
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  Speaker 4: No, they just had the one. This is different than
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  Speaker 4: the type the jicks. By the way, if our listeners
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  Speaker 4: want to look jicks up on the internet, it's spelled
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  Speaker 4: d g i X or d j i X. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: d j i X. And it's a type of CYCLEM
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  Speaker 4: and I think it comes from shoen Feld or the breeders,
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  Speaker 4: not positive, but somewhere in Europe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That and that's you know, there are a ton
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  Speaker 3: of varieties, like you're saying, ones with one with big flowers,
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  Speaker 3: one with small flowers, one with fragrance, one ones that
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  Speaker 3: are just known for the foliage kind of thing, and
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  Speaker 3: like what you're saying, in southern California, we would never
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  Speaker 3: even know some of these plants existed because, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the variety, just the selection just to sit there for
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  Speaker 3: us to kind of see or even be aware of.
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  Speaker 3: Where when you go to some of these other places,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the growers there or the retailers there get
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  Speaker 3: behind them and and they'll have them, and you're you'll
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  Speaker 3: be showing up to a gardens and be like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: I never even knew this happened. And meanwhile, like we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about there, they have to grow those plants like
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  Speaker 3: an annual or like a small small time frame. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're willing to they're willing to get it only for
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  Speaker 3: two months or three months or whatever it is. Where meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: here we can almost happen and you want to do it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, name, name, the time in the place.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy. That's so cool. That is
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  Speaker 3: so fun.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, John, Nanny snow on the forecast.
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  Speaker 4: Uh no, no, I think that next week they might
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  Speaker 4: might have a little rain, but so far, no snow.
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  Speaker 3: It's yeah, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what. I'm here in the I'm here
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  Speaker 4: in the show and delay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh because you have you have us turned up someplace else,
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  Speaker 2: don't you.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I've got it turned all the way
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  Speaker 4: down and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
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  Speaker 3: So weird. Sorry about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that means you get to hear twice whenever you
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  Speaker 2: missed the first time, John, you can pick it up
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  Speaker 2: on delay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, except your answer asking me a question twice.
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  Speaker 2: So we've got a We got a couple of minutes
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  Speaker 2: before the first break. We don't want to keep you
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  Speaker 2: too long, John, but we just wanted we wanted you
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  Speaker 2: to check in and just catch up with our listeners.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really good to talk to you guys,
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  Speaker 4: and can't can't wait to come back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. We look forward to having you back in
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  Speaker 3: San Diego, being able to do a show and being
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  Speaker 3: able to show our listeners the plants that you picked out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: make sure you you pack them well so they ship
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  Speaker 3: over here really nicely. You don't. I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: see any damage plants. Okay, hey, John, do it right
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  Speaker 3: if Shannon, if Shannon has to give up her seat,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean she has to give a proceed
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  Speaker 3: so that way we can have the plants be safely
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  Speaker 3: transported here.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'll let you discuss that with her. And
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  Speaker 4: by the way, Brian, I just saw that Leonor mentioned
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  Speaker 4: you were a year older. I think it was Leonora,
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  Speaker 4: So happy Berthay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. That was yesterday, so she's keeping track.
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  Speaker 3: Is your birthday yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Happy birth Yeah, thank you very much. I got a
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  Speaker 3: little cupcake for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you are you know what you are? My cupcake,
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  Speaker 2: my little jam tart.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness?
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  Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you so much. Safe travels. We'll
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  Speaker 2: see you back here next week and glad you could
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  Speaker 2: take some time to be with us.
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  Speaker 3: All right, take care, John.
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  Speaker 2: Take care, take care. Well right, wow, let's see about
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  Speaker 2: a minute to the next break. All right, so you
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  Speaker 2: know what this means. Now we can go back to
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  Speaker 2: having various guests on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we can talk about John now that he's
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  Speaker 3: off the air.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what's what What was he talking about?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he said anything that was true, no one, No,
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  Speaker 2: we tease. In fact, I when I texted, texted a
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  Speaker 2: word that's not a word. And we text back and
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  Speaker 2: forth briefly last week, and I said, yeah, John, we
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  Speaker 2: miss you. Come back so you can correct all the
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  Speaker 2: misinformation that Tiger and I gave. I think he appreciated that.
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  Speaker 2: So what we're going to do is take a break
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  Speaker 2: and take a break and come back with the quarter
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  Speaker 2: of the week. Okay, yeah, we'll take a break. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for joining us. So we're kicking things off. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Brian Maine, John Magnesco. Well you just heard Johnny's in Idaho, Idaho.
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  Speaker 2: Coming back this week, target Pola Fox. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: take a break for our good friends on BIS Talk Radio,
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  Speaker 2: Facebook live questions, comments, and again we come back with
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  Speaker 2: the quote of the Week after these messages on BIS
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  Speaker 2: Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 6: Stay with us.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we're back from the break. Here back on Garden America,
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  Speaker 2: Tiger's House, Tiger's patio. We just tried from John beg Nasco.
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  Speaker 2: So far, off to a decent start and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do the quurt of the week and then explain
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  Speaker 2: what's going to be happening later on in the show.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break after the first hour.
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  Speaker 2: The first hour, as it pertains to uh BIS Talk
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  Speaker 2: Radio Facebook Life will explain that. But first of all,
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  Speaker 2: Tiger the quart of the Week from this week's newsletter.
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  Speaker 3: The leaves fall, the wind blows, and the farm country
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  Speaker 3: slowly changes from the summer contins into its winter wolves
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  Speaker 3: by Henry Beston. And it's, you know, just describing this
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  Speaker 3: this time of year. We change from you know, the
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  Speaker 3: the flip flops in the.
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  Speaker 2: Well some of us, yes, four degrees, you got your
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  Speaker 2: flip flops.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't have my board shorts on or T shirt,
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  Speaker 3: but you would. Yeah. But and now we're transitioning into
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  Speaker 3: jackets and coats and hats.
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  Speaker 2: And hates and pumpkins and changes of colors. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a few areas in San Diego with the color changes.
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  Speaker 2: We've got parts of UH one sixty three heading into.
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  Speaker 3: Downtown, the sycamore trees there, and we.
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  Speaker 2: Have we have we have some maple, don't we here
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  Speaker 2: and there?
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  Speaker 3: All these maples, Japanese maple, maple trees, sycamore trees, we
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  Speaker 3: have the liquid amber trees that change colors. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: then we have things like poplars and you know, flowering
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  Speaker 3: plums and the fruit trees that you know are deciduous
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  Speaker 3: and different ones like that. But you know, it's just
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  Speaker 3: that time of year we're changing over.
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  Speaker 2: So let's tell our listeners are our Facebook viewers. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: this is more for Facebook what we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: doing today and moving forward as we continue to delve
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  Speaker 2: into some of the technical issues that we think we
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  Speaker 2: might have not completely solved, but we have found we
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  Speaker 2: have found a work aroun.
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  Speaker 3: So, so what we've been finding for people that follow
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  Speaker 3: us on Facebook Live is that Facebook uh you know
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  Speaker 3: sometimes and then sometimes doesn't, but it kind of kicks
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  Speaker 3: us off after a period of time. And we just
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  Speaker 3: think it's just because the Facebook Live broadcast is long
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  Speaker 3: and in order to for Facebook to sure what they're
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  Speaker 3: doing properly, they see that and then they bounce it off.
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  Speaker 2: They don't want you to be on too. You're kind
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  Speaker 2: of hogging, Yes, the Facebook airwaves, Yes, if that's such
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  Speaker 2: a way to make a comparison.
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  Speaker 3: But so in order to do in order to combat that,
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  Speaker 3: what we're gonna do is the middle of our show,
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  Speaker 3: which is when we normally announce, you know on Bistok Radio.
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  Speaker 3: How about we're going to do our long.
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  Speaker 2: Break we talk about the top of the hour news
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  Speaker 2: on Bistok.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we are going to shut down the first Facebook
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  Speaker 3: live broadcast. We're going to actually turn it off, so
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  Speaker 3: then we will go live again. So it's almost like
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna do two shows, so you can't just seamlessly
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  Speaker 3: stream right right. What's going to happen is it's going
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  Speaker 3: to say this show has ended. But if you go
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  Speaker 3: back to our main page and look, there's going to
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  Speaker 3: be a second one there, right, and then you launch
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  Speaker 3: that one and nowadays we're gonna pick it up just like.
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  Speaker 2: You would do prior to us kicking off the show.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like like Tiger mentioned two shows, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: we'll of course announce this. So give us about what
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  Speaker 2: two or three minutes, No, it shouldn't even be that long.
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  Speaker 2: Just a minute, yeah, about a minute. So we'll shut down.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see a shutdown on Facebook, and then we'll start again.
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  Speaker 2: So don't go anywhere. We're just gonna We're just gonna,
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  Speaker 2: you know, put some more gas in the tank.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, and hopefully this will prevent us from being being
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  Speaker 3: shut down right by Facebook uncontrollably, because that was the thing.
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  Speaker 3: We were kind of going along with the program and
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden it would just be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you guys are done, You're done next and then now
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  Speaker 3: we're trying to scramble to get it together. So hopefully
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  Speaker 3: this will allow actually control.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, hopefully that'll be uh the the answer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what do we have going on with our listeners? Questions? Comments?
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  Speaker 2: What's happening?
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  Speaker 3: First off? You know, I want to say happy birthday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Big, a big another year happening for you, right, another
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  Speaker 3: trip around the sun. The trip around the sun. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun. What what what was your
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  Speaker 3: birthday dinner? What did you guys do?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, actually, when we went to bullies. Yesterday we had
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  Speaker 2: we had kind of a birthday lunch.
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  Speaker 3: Uh huh, oh lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a Bullies burger and we have stuffed
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  Speaker 2: mushrooms and crabs.
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  Speaker 3: Uh huh, prime rib nice. But that was basically Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 3: dinner right.
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  Speaker 2: Now again right, so today's the day we have to
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  Speaker 2: this weekend, we have to start eating some of the leftovers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh goodness, so it'll be two day leftovers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening on our comments? Let's see here, anybody enjoy it?
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  Speaker 3: Everybody create myrtle? Paula Manning just wrote create myrtle. I'm
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  Speaker 3: assuming that was a question, and and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that he called and it was cold. There is a
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  Speaker 3: lot of chat going on.
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  Speaker 2: But I like the fact that the people chat amongst
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  Speaker 2: themselves with each other. It doesn't have to be us
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  Speaker 2: that That's fine. Notice, thank you, Carl. I appreciate that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: some days it not this year, but some days it
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  Speaker 2: does fall on Thanksgiving. This day was the day after.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing too much? Okara? Is the chat? No questions that
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  Speaker 3: I think we need to get to.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, uh November into December?
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  Speaker 3: Uh huh? What's this?
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like an obvious question. What is cranking up at
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  Speaker 2: the nursery this time of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Christmas tree.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know, there we go.
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  Speaker 3: We got in our first load of Christmas trees and
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  Speaker 3: we'll be getting in some more today and tomorrow. What
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  Speaker 3: kind noble for Doug fer Frasier for Nordsman? Wow? Quite
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: the variety tip silver tip of those really kind of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: like sparse layered trees. Right, you know a lot of
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: people will like those ones a little different than the standard.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: You know, up with two or three years ago, we
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: talked about the the lack of trees available. Yeah, has
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: that has that kind of uh yeah, turned around?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, it has.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: We back to like not a problem now delivering trees.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, correct, it is back to a good amount of supply.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: The demand dropped for a period of time and then
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I think the demand is holding steady now and so
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: therefore the numbers have been able to kind of recuperate. Yeah, exactly.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I do feel that, you know, the the industry kind
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: of goes up and down. With some years people want
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: to have a live tree or or or or you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: cut Christmas tree. In some years people will just put
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: up a fake tree or or not put up a
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: tree at all, and you know, so you know, there's
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of things that guide that through the year,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: but you know, we we kind of monitor that and
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: watch that and then the other well we're going to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Christmas trees. The other thing too, is you know, it's
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: it's got to have that feeling. Yeah, yeah, and right
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: now it kind of does. We're getting it. It was cool,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: it was rainy, and it's nice. It's very hard to
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: get in the Christmas mood when it's eighty five Santa
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Anna win. Yeah, you know, so I kind of feel
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: people are feeling that Christmas vibe right now.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: It went from almost overnight very hot and then bang,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: what's today's high? Well, yesterday was eighty five. Today it's
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: sixty nine. Yeah what yeah, wow, Okay, and there's some
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: variations in between.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. You know you mentioned point setias. Points is
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: are I I know that there's a lot of people
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: out there that might kind of judge me for saying this, but.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: We get judged every day.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. I feel point setias are becoming one of
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: those not as just not as popular popular, not as
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: cool thing to do anymore.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You know, have you seen that trend over the past
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: couple of two or three years.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: You know. I mean John mentioned right now back back
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: in Idaho about you know, how they have such a
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: wide variety of plants that not even we have here
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: and something even though they grow wonderfully here in southern California.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And I kind of feel like that's what's happened to
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: us here is you know, the point setia market has
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: just been so saturated that you can get them anywhere
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and everywhere, and the price is not you know, very.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, there's nothing novelty, novelty or novel about it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that you know, it's very hard for a point
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: setia grower to bring in something new or different or unique.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Because we're going to take a break to price it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna take a break. I want to stay
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: on time and we'll continue this brief little conversation on
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: points aadius. Anyway. Welcome to the show. I'm Brian Mantiger,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Polla Fox questions comments. Absolutely, we are broadcasting live from
• 19:56
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• 19:59
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• 20:12
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• 20:15
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 20:17
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• 20:45
  Speaker 2: And just prior to the break, you want to wrap
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: up the points out of you talk, Yes, just briefly.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: You know, one question I want to have for our
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: listeners because they are chatting and we have some questions
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: that we have to get to. Okay, beautiful dam Aside
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: from the standard red point studio, what would you like
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: to see? Because the white white, there's white, there's variegated pink,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: there's orange, there's ones with crinkly leaves, there's ones with
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: rosette style leads.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Why don't we start marketing the orange ones during Halloween?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Well? They did, they change, didn't. Yeah, you know, people
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: just weren't into it at the moment, you know, And
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and so anyways, it's it's it's just a wee a thing.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I really like cycloman so because they're such a cool variety.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Paula had mentioned Craig myrtle because we were mentioning trees
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: that change color, right, and Craig myrtles are also ones
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: that switch from a green to a burgundy color foliage,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you know, yellowish and orange as well. So yes, Paula,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: that is a good uh fall tree as well. Joyce,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I have about fifteen re seated tomato plants along with
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: my cosmos that have receded. It's kind of crazy. So
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: she just has volunteers coming up. If it keeps on
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: giving fifteen tomato plants, that is a lot of tomatoes
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: soup in the fure.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ketchup, make your own ketchup.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I love the bucket of trunk trimmings Missionill's Nursery advertised
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: on Facebook. And and that's what we do. So when
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: we we do we uh sell a Christmas tree, we
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: cut off the trunk, you know, because it's what we
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: call a fresh cut. It's kind of it's kind of
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: when you get a bouquet of flowers home. You cut
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: them in the bottom water so to absorb the water.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: So that's what you do with a Christmas tree. But
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: then we sell those those buckets of stumps because when
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you put them into a fire, it releases that kind
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: of piny fragrance, and so it's kind of nice to
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: add a few of those into the fire. They're not
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: super dry, so they do pop a little bit, but
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: that's part of the charm and the fragrance that comes
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: out in it, so you know, and that's why you
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: don't want to fill your fire with him. But but
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: you know, you throw one or two of them in
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: when your fire is going, and it's it'll it'll add
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: that nice the scented room aroma there with.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like having one of those airwic fresheners.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Only this is the real deal.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Lilah says, Happy birthday, Brian, you okay, uh?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: John and Bonnie here, I have a Nandina planted around
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: a small spa as a kind of modesty hedge a
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: foot high. They don't like the water chemicals splashing or
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: evaporating on them, and they keep dying. Is there another
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: chemical resistant plant or grass that I could be that
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: could be used instead. And happy birthday.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Brian another word, So they can keep something around the pool, yes,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: but the chlorin and splashing is not going to affect it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: And he's so right about Nandina's not liking that. They
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: are very fickle plants a foot high. So I'm assuming
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: he had the Gulf Stream Nandina, which is a compact
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: or the harbor which is a compact variety of Nandina.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: So there's a couple plants right off the bat that
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I can tell you is Number one is just Murdis
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: boxwood or mrdis is a myrtle, and then boxwoods as well,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: those are green boxwood. You can get ones that turn
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to a little bit of yellow orange color in the wintertime,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: or they have the ones that stay green year round.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And then merdis, you know, nice compact hedge like plant
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: as well. They have some small varieties. So both of
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: those would do well. I would not recommend the grasses
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: around the spot, just because they're a little bit to
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: control and maintain. But you know, there's a lot of
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: you know, like La mandra. There's some short varieties of
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: La mandra. There's lerio that would be also a good
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: kind of grass around that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: How much landscaping have you done around people's pools?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Oh? A lot? Yeah. I mean in southern California, everybody has.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: A and everybody wants to have some kind of foliage
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: or something nice around their pool.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure. And but it's got to with stand
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: like he's saying that question and all that. So this
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: is a thing. Yeah, yeah, And the other thing I
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: was going to say is some people will even do
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: a star jasmine kind of like border around and then
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I thing about that is they have a nice white
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: fragrant flower. If you're sitting in the spa, that adds
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: out a little bit too. There. So those are some
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: good suggestions for you, I think, if you want to
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: go with those. But yeah, the the nandinas are difficult.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I turned around, because what do you have near your pool?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I have plumeria, I have a lemon. Okay, I have psychad,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I have diplodinia. I have star jasmine. I have mimulus
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: all around the pool. Yeah, they love it and they
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: have no problem, No, no problem at all. It looks
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: like Tiger has an ocean from property with that fog
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: back there, right, Isn't that kind of crazy?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that weird.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna change the camera setting here in a minute,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: because we always talk about it. We were talking about
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: this right before. Now when you look behind, it's washed out,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: washed it's washed out. The fog has lifted. When we
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: start the show, it's kind of darker. Exactly we are.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: We are super dark in the show. But then, you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: so I assume this is like adjusting contrast to some degree.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Take take the brightness away in the background, won't be
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: so uh so washed out.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: So Carlo says that she still loves the traditional points
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: that he is, and Leonora said she bought an orange
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: plumria and hopes it will be orange. It's just starting
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and the oranges, the orange is the new plumeria craze color.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants orange ones. It's kind of funny. But yeah,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: let's see here, switch this back to zero.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is there. Now we're now we're dark.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Let me settle it down a little bit.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Look at that, Let our let our viewers on face. Yeah, right,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: we have the right contrast between us and the bad
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: That looks a little better, a lot better. Right, Maybe
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: some people would rather see the background than see us.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, you know, but uh, plumerias are you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: it's tough because right now, if you buy a ple maria,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: you don't know what you're getting. Well, yeah, it's probably
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: losing leaves and you don't have flowers on it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Yours looks like mine. This is the latest mind has
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: ever looked as good as it is.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Some that are still blooming down there. It's pretty awesome. Tanya.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: My question, I thought I should plant sweet peace seeds
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: in January. However, my volunteers from my plants last year
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: are already up to about four inches. When is the
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: best time to plant sweet peas. I'm thinking of also
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: planting seeds where they are growing to extend the bloom time. So, Tanya,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you were right that for most area, January is a
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: great time to plant the sweetpea seeds. Yours are coming
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: up early because obviously the weather has dictated it. One
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: of the problems with them coming up earlier is just
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: because they come up doesn't mean that they are going
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: to grow or bloom any quicker though. What's gonna happen
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: is they're gonna come up, but they're gonna probably stop
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: and then, believe it or not, the ones you plant
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: in you know, December, January will catch up with yours
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: that you have in the garden, and.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a slow growth or.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: And sometimes there's a risk and there's nothing you can do.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: But sometimes they'll start to grow and then something will
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: happen where they'll actually kill them. So yes, wait until January.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: But what you'll see sometimes is the ones that you
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: plant in January and the ones that you that are
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: coming up now will actually time out at this they'll
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: they'll they'll meet each other, right, they'll they'll can't, they'll
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: they'll be at the same time. So what you're thinking
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: of extending the season could possibly happen, but more likely
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: than not, what you need to do is change the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: varieties and then you can extend your season, because if
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: you plant the same one, there's a great chance they're
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: gonna bloom at the same time even though you planted
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: them in ja. That happens a lot with people's tomatoes.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: People will start tomatoes early, and which is fine. They'll grow,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: but they actually don't set fruit. So even the people
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that started their tomato a little bit later, they're gonna
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: get the same fruit at the same time as you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Even though you planted yours early, so similar thing will
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: happen with the sweet peas. So just kind of think
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: about that, Tanya. So we got about a minute, all right,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I think that we are cut up on our questions
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: good to know, good to know, m We got a
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: good amount of people watching the show, so I do
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: just want to remember that what are we going to
• 30:01
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• 30:02
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• 30:04
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• 30:07
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• 30:12
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• 30:14
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• 30:17
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• 30:18
  Speaker 2: This is like a reset, so hopefully uh, Facebook will
• 30:22
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• 30:25
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• 30:27
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• 30:30
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• 31:21
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• 31:24
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• 31:31
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• 31:34
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• 31:49
  Speaker 2: a minute or two after we take that break. What
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: was that that you had the right there, Tiger.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So you know before the break we were talking about
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Tanya and sweet peas. Yeah, time a year and when
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: to plant right in time year. Well, you know, I
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: just went and cut some of these flowers down in
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: my garden. This rose is gold Marie, beautiful kind of
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: orange yellow rose. You know, just a very hardy plant.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: The fold is looking wonderful. It's a giant bush right now.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: And then this is funny. This one is the orange juice.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: So this one is, you know, not showing the orange
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: color like it normally does, but at the same time
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: very pretty. And you know, we've talked about this for
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the roses are doing great right now. They're fine, you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: and they're loving it. But it hasn't gotten that cold yet.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Pushing the envelope and right on that cusp of things
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: will start changing a little bit.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I've still got green Planet, I've got a Laura Bush
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: rose lemon spice. I think I've seen the last of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: my Pope John Paul blooms for the year. But yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it's uh, especially because I did a severe cutback about
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: two months ago, so that was like, okay, one more spurt.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: The nice thing with the severe cutbacks is the foliage
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: comes out just beautiful.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I will. I will be doing that every year,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: no doubt.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: And if if you know, this time of year, if
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: you've got Salvia's right right, Salvia's and some of those
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: perennial kind of plants, you want to start looking at
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: them and being like, okay, you know it might be
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: too late to cut them back now. You wait until
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: maybe about January or so. But if you do a
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: nice cleaning and cutback in the spring. The flowers look great,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: the foliage looks great. There's a lot less dead growth
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: in the middle, and you know, that's nice to have.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Lisa wrote, I have tomato seeds that did the same thing.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: They came up randomly. So she had some tomatoes that
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: came up randomly and they now covered a mini greenhouse.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: They they are now covered in a mini greenhouse over
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: a trough. So I wait and see. So she had
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: some seedlings that came up naturally, trying to protect them
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: through the wintertime. And you know, yeah, they'll survive in
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: a greenhouse. They'll be fine. You again, you're not gonna
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: get fruit. You're not gonna get some of the things
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: that maybe you wouldn't tell. The season is actually meant
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: to be for the tomatoes, right, we've talked about this
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: not it's not just a matter of the plant being alive.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: It's a matter of you know, daylight hours, temperatures, pollination,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: all of that is what you know drives fruit, vegetables.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: All of that stuff needs to be in sequence. That's
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: why plants have seasons, is they're pollinators are happening during
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: that time of year. The daylight hours are happening during
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: that time of year. The nighttime temperatures and daytime temperatures
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: are happening during that time of year, and that's why
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: they have that season. You could simulate that in a greenhouse.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, but you know it's artificial. It's artificial, and it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a challenge.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, do you know that back in
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the day point SETI is they actually had to tarp
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: their Point Setti greenhouses cover them to simulate nighttime ten
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: hours because they were trying to get them to grow
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: in a time of year that was not natural them.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: You know, you can wake a bear up from hibernation,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: but is it gonna be happy?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Tell me about it. I mean, how
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: about you do that and tell me about it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And I'll I'll just trust you if that's like that
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: waking the sleeping bear analogy. But you're right, you know
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: it's people get excited. Oh look, it's it's not even
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: that time of year and I've got blooms. Yeah, but
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: it's the Yeah. But because then, as you said, there's
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: a reason they have seasons. Yes, they know better than
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: we do.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, Leonora asked, I'm looking for a orange rose and
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: they can't get a really orange one. Can you repeat
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: the name of yours, Leonora, I'm gonna write it for you,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: but I'm also gonna repeat it orange juice. And this
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: is the one that I got from the auction. Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I remember that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's readily available, but if you write
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: John an email, he might be able to point you
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: in the direction of where to get it from, or
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: if there is, he has connections. Yeah, exactly. And if
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: there's none available, we can get you some cuttings from
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: mine and you can go from there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: But that's John at Gardinamerica dot com for those that
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: are not familiar.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: And Tanya said orange juice, orange juice. Yeah, oh j
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: o j exactly. So yeah, so orange juice. And I
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: think we are all cut up morning minus John. Happy
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: belated birthday, Brian from Sue, Thank you Sue. Yeah, all right.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: At work, we got a few minutes. So I'm looking
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: at your plumbia.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah okay, yeah, I mean this one's right next to
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: my house. It looks a lot better than the ones
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: that are kind of more down in the yard.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: So, how lack of a better word, how bad do
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you expect that to look every year, because right now
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: it looks it looks good. So so another words, when
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I s how bad do you expect it to look?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: When will it look tired? When will it look like
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it's going through its hybernation?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Well, this one here, being next to my house is
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: so because houses radiate heat.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, right, it's warm.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Next to them, even though people being getting like, oh
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: no it's cold out here, it's chili. But the thing
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: is is that houses actually has this bubble around it
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: that radiates heat. So anything next to a house is
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: going to be much different than anything ten feet away
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: from house. Like you the listeners can't see, but you
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: see this fold is here. Look at how big it is.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Look at how long the leaves are looking exactly. Yeah,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: look over there, Brian, you see in the corner by
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: the fence, look at that plume area. You see the
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: foliage is much smaller, there's less foliage. It's starting to yellow.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: It looks like I would expect plumeria.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: To look right exactly. And that one's just what thirty
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: feet away twenty feet yeah? Yeah, maybe okay. So what
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: happens though to this one here is it doesn't change
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: like the other one. So the other ones go through
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: this like oh it's cold, it's warm, it's cold, it's warm,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: it's more stay I kind of like, you know, I'm
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna turn yellow. I'm gonna drop some leaves.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: This one. What's gonna happen is there's gonna be his
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: cold snap. That will happen. I'll walk out one day,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: all the leaves.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Yeah, okay, So that answers my question.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: That's what it takes. It doesn't change. It just goes
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: from I'm alive to I am dormant.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Okay, we caught up on the questions.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: We are, We are caught up on the questions.
• 38:28
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• 38:31
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• 38:34
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• 38:36
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• 38:39
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• 38:42
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• 38:45
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• 38:46
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• 38:50
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• 38:53
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• 38:54
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• 38:57
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• 39:01
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• 39:12
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• 39:15
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• 39:17
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• 39:46
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• 39:49
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• 40:01
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• 40:04
  Speaker 2: bisktok Radio and in a sense second half of the
• 40:07
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• 40:10
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• 40:13
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• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Tiger. Yeah, so I did want to follow up with
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: a question, Yes, let's do it, because you know, I
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: want to make sure we do a good job of
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: carrying over the show. And before we had gone off,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I think it was John who not John bing Nosco,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: but another John who had asked about do I have
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: any symbidiums growing outside? And we did a show a
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: little while back where John brought in some svidiums, right
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I talked about a few weeks ago. Yeah, we talked
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: about dividing them, taking care of them and growing them.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And so yes, I do have some vidiums growing outside.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: We do keep them in pots, just better rainage. They
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: tolerate the temperatures out here just fine. They bloom just fine.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: And you know, before the break we also talked about
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: this concept of plants requiring certain temperatures light hours to bloom,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: and orchids are one of those. And you know, Brian,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you have a falien opposes orchid that you were wondering about.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Failine opos is the moth orchid classic flowers up and
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: down right on the spike, right, you know, kind of
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a thing foliage at the bottom.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I've got two left before before they completely drop.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And so we were talking about how what were you
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: going to do when it dropped.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna I'm gonna cut it back down toward
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the well, you said, pretty severely, all the way down
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the shoot.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So this is there's two different ways that people
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: kind of approach it. Number One, some people just leave
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: the stem. The stem kind of dies back to a
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: certain point. Sometimes people just leave it and they will
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: begin to bloom back from that stem, and you know
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: it can't do that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: But your suggest and cut it cut the stem from
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Of feline offices growers, and they do recommend cutting it
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: all the way back down because you get a bigger bloom
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: spike and it's a uh a better bloom.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: But now I've got to wait for that to grow again. Yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: how quickly will that grow? So it just seems I
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: just like there's this this panic, like I'm cutting it
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: off all the way to the bottom.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: So and that's the thing, right like with with with
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: the falin and opsis, if you were to naturally grow these,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: you would only get one bloom spike a year because
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: there's only really like one maybe twice a year where
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: they would get those temperatures. And the blooms are so long,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: meaning when it starts blooming, by the time it gets
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: to the last flower, it could be a month sometimes two.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you know right right, sure, So what.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I'm getting at those that Falianopsis, these plants, they a
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: lot of people don't realize this, but in order to
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: make them bloom again, you should put them outside because
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: inside it stays two controlled.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: A little chill. Don't we need a little chill.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Exactly, And so by putting them outside on a patio
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: or a porch, you can give them that chill. Now
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: it's like trigger, okay, bloom, they start their spike. They
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: begin to set their spike. Within a month to two months,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: you have a spike now again, Now you can bring
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: it back inside. You can have the flowers to let
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: it do its thing at the end of that now
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: month or two. So you can get three, maybe four
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: blossoms a year on a failure obtunity if we do
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: it correctly.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: But cut that stem. Cut that it's because it's it's huge.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Just you know however long that is.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And and so you know John was asking
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: about simbidiums. Symbidiums are also the kind of thing that
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: you know require you know, chill in order to bloom.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: That's why they like to be outside. So you know,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: just understanding your plants.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:54
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• 44:06
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• 44:10
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• 44:13
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• 44:17
  Speaker 2: And it's a good break. It's you know it, take
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: a little break and then here we go again. We're resetting.
• 44:22
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• 44:26
  Speaker 3: And Tanya wrote, would be easier to find you with
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• 44:32
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• 44:35
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• 44:37
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• 44:41
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• 44:42
  Speaker 2: It's live and even if you didn't know what I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: forgot what time it was. Yeah, and it's a good reminder.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah we can do that, yeah, exactly to tune off
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the top of the house shop a Carlo wrote something
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Uh, John, it worked, John, I did
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: just answer your question about some medium that I do have.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Some If you go back and watch the show, you
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: can talk. You can hear all about the falien opices
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: we talked about, the somebdiums we talked about and you know,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: and you know we brought this up before, that we orchids.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of areas that are in snow, that
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: are in alpine areas that orchids do grow. There's there
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: are some very hardy orchids.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: So hey, what's going to happen to that different bakia
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: than I have that you divided and we transplanted it.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: It'll be fine because it's just leave it outside. Number One,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: you have a patio, very sheltered, very protective, and I
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: we you know, we talked about the building radiates heat
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: that your patio. Even though it is chilly, it's the house,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: it's not freezing. It's not freezing, right, you know, So
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: you don't need to worry too much about frost killing
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: plants and different babbio diffen. Bakia would be one of
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: those plants that you would I'd be like, oh, no, like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: what about ballots, Well, I mean you don't, they don't.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: You don't do it for the bloom, it's just for
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: the foliage. So so the biggest thing that I think
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: you have to watch out for is overwatering in this
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: time of year, because just let it go, it won't. Yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I would almost like you're saying not, because people will
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: make the mistake of continuing to water their plants the
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: same as if it was a summer and number one,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: the water isn't going away, it's not evaporating. Number Two,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: every once when you're gonna get a rain or a
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: heavy dew which now has watered that plant and now
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: you're giving it double water. Yeah. And then you know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: the last thing is just you're not trying to encourage
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: too much growth this time of year because you want
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: that tough, leathery, hard foliage to be on the plants,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: not the new, tender, young foliage. So you really just
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: want your plants to sustain for the most part, you know.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I mean there's very few plants like you know, like
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: a camellia that's blooming this time of year, Azelia's you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: some of those are blooming this time of year. But
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: he and then you don't shouldn't do anything today.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Just the key word is relax. Yeah, the plant needs
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: to relax.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: You relax. Rick asked, do we need to retype our questions? No, Rick,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I think I think we answered the questions all from
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: the last broadcast. Rick, if I missed, if I if
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I haven't answered your question yet, yes, please retire.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that goes for anybody if if you know
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you it goes too long before we answer anything. Yeah,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: they just retype it real quick. We'll get to him
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: as as quickly as we can. But good, good, good question, Rick.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love that our own listeners answer questions.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Yes exactly.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: You know that means they're following the show and following
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: the broadcast, which is a lot of fun for those
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: of you that are just joining us. You miss John
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: big Nosco earlier in the show. We have joined as
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: via phone as we opened the show up. Yeah. So,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: and now this will open us up to have some
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: callers and listeners and people to kind of join us
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: on the program, bring some more guests back, exactly. Joyce,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: My Bock Choice Spinach Kale are doing great. Remember I
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: planted them a month ago when it turned cooler than
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: we had eighty degree weather. And that is something that
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: you know, we talked about, like people want to start
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: stuff early and you just have to wait sometimes. Yeah,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: because I mean, bock, choice, spinach and kale do not
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: like eighty eighty degree weather, and sometimes they'll bolt, sometimes
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: that foliage will burn. I'm glad it worked out for Joyce,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: you know, and it's she should be in the clear now.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: But you know, that's a tough thing sometimes when you're
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: planting your plants and you get those strange weather changes. Okay,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: not sure if this is correct. I missed the first
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: part I found. If the orchid spike stays green, it
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: will set another spike right off of it and rebloom. Yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: and we talked about that that you know that sometimes
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: the spike will just die to a half spike and
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: it'll stay green to a certain point and then that
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: new spike will come off of it. But you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: it's having that new spike is like what we talked about,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: cutting back plants all the way to the ground and
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: then let them come up new. It's it's that kind.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Of it's like shutting off our show and then starting
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: it over again. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's the same plant,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: but it's new.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the same, the same but new. So yeah, so yeah,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: lots of good stuff happening in the time of the year.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, what are you going to put into You
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: have cats, so you don't do too much interior Christmas foliage.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: No, we in fact, with the little six month old
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: we have now cat not not a human baby, because
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: we were in a couple of stores yesterday thinking about
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: oh we could get this and like no, because that
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: cat's going to eat anything. Yeah, it's destructive, really destructive
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: right now to a great degree.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Do you do it? Maybe next year? Make it Christmas Eve.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I do have lights. I've got led lights, and I
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: can change colors, I can do sweeps, I can do dissolve.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: You don't put a little Santa in the in the tank.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Like a little fake Santa.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now with Santa that goes up and down.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, I don't have it's all it's all
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: real plans.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: I don't have. That is really impressive.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I should take a picture.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is really impressive. And Brian has all real plans,
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: all realist and they actually do a good job of
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: cleaning the water, oxygen, feeding the fish giving them a
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: more natural home.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you went long. I went long.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Sorry, BIS Talk Radio. We'll take a quick break Facebook Live.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Bistalk Radio back after these messages. Okay, we are back
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: from the break, BIS Talk Radio, Facebook Live. Thank you
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: for joining us. John is back with us next week.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I'm Brian Maintiger, Pella Fox. Just prior to the break,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: we were talking about the live plants in my aquarium
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and just like any plants, I do have to add
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: certain chemicals, good chemicals that is potassium, a CEO two,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: certain things that the plants need to thrive. We talked
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: about the plants. They do some plant a lot of
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: oxygen to the fish themselves, along with some of the
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: bubbles and pumps that I have in there. But I
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: will get a picture of that because it looks like
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: an underwater jungle. It's really a nice atmosphere. Yes, absolutely
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: didn't used to but now because of all the good
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: care they're getting now, they do need to be trimmed
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: here and there.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: We have a jaunt. We have a question about the
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: diffenbakia that right we were talking about and it came
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: from John Best way to propagate better to lay the
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: stem sections upright or horizontally on the growing bed or
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: another way. So I've always found, you know, you do
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: the cutting, you you know, let it just heal just
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: a little bit, you know, in weak and you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: make sure it's not getting going to rot out or
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: exposed to the sun or anything like that, and then
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: just do vertical in a very light growing medium and
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: the roots will set. Some people will set them even water.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: So so some people will just take that stemp put
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: it in water, let the roots set, and then they
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: transfer that into a growing medium as well. The horizontal
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: is another way. I don't think it's necessarily better because
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: I think that you can get some weird looking growth,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: but maybe that's maybe that's.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: What you maybe that's what you want.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's going to begin to curve or turn
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: or change. So I do the vertical to kind of
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: go from there with that. And I think the biggest
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: thing is just not letting the base rot out. So
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: don't use a heavy potting medium. Use a very lightweight,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: well draining potty medium, and that's all that you should
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: really need. Rick, I'm going to I'm going on a
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: trip to Thailand to celebrate my sister's seventieth birthday. Will
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: there will be there through Christmas? What plant life should
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I see there?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: So Thailand this time of year?
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Is that what he's Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll be there
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: during this time of year.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: And wow, what won't you see?
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was just talking to actually have
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: a friend going back her family's from Thailand. She's going
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: back there for three months. I was just talking to
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: her two days ago, Rick about what she's gonna do
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: when she's back there, and she says, you know, it's
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: going to be hot. Yeah, so it's gonna it's going
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: to be about you know, eighty degrees with a lot
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: of humidity. So as far as you know what you're
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: going to see there, you're going to see a lot
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: of their like kind of like dry weather growth patterns,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: which is a lot of the a lot of the
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: plants that you're accustomed to seeing, you know, the the
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: the plumeria as the tropical fruit tree you know. Yeah,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: all of that's going to be in bloom in season
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: there because this is the time of year for them.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: So you're gonna be i mean, you know, kind of
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: like what we saw in Costa Rica. Yeah, you're gonna
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: see orchids and trees and bromeliads, and.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: We were there in April.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and so you know, you're gonna have a
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: lot of fun that Rick, because it's gonna be throwing
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: you for a loop. A lot of the things that
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: you are accustomed to not seeing this time of year,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: you're going to see. You're gonna see, yeah, exactly, and
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: it will be in bloom and it will be looking good.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: So you know, definitely get out and and take a
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: look because it's gonna be a lot of fun. Watch
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: out for the snakes, Rick, uh Carl, like getting ready
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: to decorate when Christmas. For Christmas, so my falie opposes
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: orchids will be going outside in a protected area. It
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: will help them. It helped them rebloom last year. And yeah,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: that's what we just talked about. You know, definitely get
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: them outside, protect them that you do what. You don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: want them freezing, but protect them Veronica. When we had cats,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: we had to put a hook in the ceiling and
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: wired the Christmas to you to the ceiling. We also
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: used unbreakable ornaments Toddler and cat prop Oh.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like plugging up the holes of your outlets.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: You have little little kid safety, you know, proof your house.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: This cat, the little one Crosby, is just so rambunctious.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: It's like having a seven year old kid that's got
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: the zoomies all the time, all the time. And when
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: you tell him not to do it, just keep doing it. No,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I said, don't do that. Well I'm gonna do it anyway.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no no no, you said yes
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: and anything.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: The cat doesn't miss anything. It doesn't matter what you're doing.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: You could be filing your nails. You come, what are
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: you doing?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: What is that? What do you mean?
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: How does this interest you?
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: And he watches TV.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: An hour in front of the TV set anyway.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's good. All right, we are caught up
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: on the question again. Again. Thanks for all of you
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: joining us in our Facebook Communich community. Happy holidays. I
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving. You had two of them.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: You had a Thanksgiving dinner and then a birthday birthday
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: dinner that was a Thanksgiving.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: The heck of a weekend exact, it's not over yet.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, and then now we go straight
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: into holidays where this is Christmas. What do we have
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: three weeks to Christmas? Now.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, December first is Monday, right.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and then four weeks three and a half, yeah, exactly,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: and then right around the corner is New Year's after that.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking the first week off the new year,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: are you, Yeah, from from my regular job here of the.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Week, just to hang out.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be nice, get things done.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the new Year's resolutions started.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: You know what. I My new Year's resolution is never
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: make a New Year's resolution. If I decide to do something,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: it could be January, it could be June, it could
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: be October. I'm not like, you know, the New Year,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I got to do it. I just you know, it's
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I go to the doctor. He says, you know what,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: stop eating this or that for a while.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah right yeah. Rick asked, are the chamelia is
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: butting out? Now? Should you fertilize? Rick Man, I thought
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: you listen to her show right now.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: You don't fertilize now.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: No, we we yeahs are either blooming or butting right now,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: and you do not fertilize chamelias when they are blooming.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: You know that is that is their dormant time. That
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: is the time of year. If you fertilize them. What's
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: gonna happen is you're gonna push off those flowers and
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: you're not gonna.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Get flowers waking up that sleeping bear exactly.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: So definitely don't fertilize your chamelia is when they are
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: butted or in bloom. So you got a few months
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: that you can just take it easier.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: In all fairness, Rick could have been out of the room. Yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: people come and go.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: People come and go. Carla Bryan, remember the days when
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: you elis the idea of putting thorns in garden to
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: torture the cats? Dana has what Dana had a positive
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: influence on you?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I never tortured cats.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: What's going on? I don't know. I believe Carla. I
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: believe there was some time when you probably were like,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put thorns on all my plants.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: No, what what else did did we recommend back in
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the day was a cocoa mulch. Yeah, it's it's poisonous,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: or just came them away.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: It came from chocolate, and so you know, they talked
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: about it was poisonous to eat because animals shouldn't eat.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: This should not right. But it also the texture said
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: it would keep away cats and dogs, and then it
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: became this whole thing that it's poisonous you shouldn't do it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: But then people said, no, it's not that poisonous. It's
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: kind of like, you know what I mean. While we're
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: talking about it's kind of like the poins setia people
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: talk about don't put poissettios in your house because they're poisonous.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: That's not true.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Well it's not true. I mean, it's not true in
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: the sense of.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: You're not going to keel over and drop dead. But
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: it's not good. It's not good, and we gotta take
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: a break. It would have to eat like eight plants.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: And if if your cat or dog is eating eight
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: points Eddi planes, there's something wrong we have. There's other issues.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: We can talk about this after this break. BIS Talk
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Radio Facebook Live back after these messages. Couldn't wait to
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: get back from that break. Welcome back, BIS Talk Radio
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Facebook Live. I want to go back and just address
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Karla for a moment or two here. Yes, Dan has
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: been a great influence, there's no doubt about it. The
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: fortunate thing is we're both animal people, so so we
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: there's never an issue as far as that in the house,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: if we could save every animal, we would, it's not
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: practical when I'm not going to do that. Maybe someday,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: but yeah, we're getting back to the thorn thing that
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: that's kind of funny. I don't recall that, but you
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: know I've come, you know what, later on as you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: get older. Sometimes you know, when you're young, I never
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: did that, or who said I did that? When you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: get older, you go, yeah, maybe I did. I just
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: don't recall right now. But if you recall that, that's fine.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Well, that is one thing that I would say. You know, gardeners,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I think gardeners get hung up on something in the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: sense of we try to emphasize a particular thing so
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: much that sometimes we don't change or we're not willing
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: to change. But I feel it's okay to change. I mean, well, yeah,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: of course. I mean, let's bring John into the program
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: in the sense of, you know, when he first started
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: off gardening, you know, his first passion was house plans.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: That was his first passion, right, okay, and he he
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: also really loved orchids, and you know, and then he
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: moved into some of the other varieties of plants, roses,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: did not become his passion until he was already over
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: the hump in the gardening. They were very late in
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: life that he kind of developed that.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the story he said that he talked
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: to somebody who said, don't you think if you're going
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: to he.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Was the buyer, He was the buyer for a nursery
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: land or Armstrong.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't you maybe grow roses yourself and learn about roses?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: And it was, like you said, kind of a midlife
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: thing where yeah, maybe I want to. And it became
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: a passion.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Right now, I love plum areas and I talk about too,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: but there will be a day where maybe I love roses,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: or maybe I do.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: In the last few years, you've kind of got on
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: the rose bandwagon.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Definitely, and and so you know that's where I think,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: you know gardeners, And the hardest part is that they
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: financially commit or space wise committed right right right. You know,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: like I know a lot of people that have one
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: hundred percent dedication to roses or plants and orchids orchids.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: They're not willing to change because they're so heavily invested
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: in it that to change now would be just a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: very problematic, but you know, I mean there's there's ways
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: to do it if and there's always new things out
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: there with gardening, so you know, be open to change,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: be open to something new, and I think that it
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: makes it fun and interesting.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Don't be afraid to fail.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: No, don't be afraid to fail. That is definitely a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: very good model to.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Life, you know, really seriously, Yeah, you don't have to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: talk about it. I don't be afraid to fail.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: That's why.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Like John will say something every now and he'll say, hey,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: you haven't spoken much about whatever the plant might be. Yeah,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: he goes, what happened to it? I'll say, what happened
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: to that plant he committed to? Is that I have
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: to go you know, I have to go home and
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: look for that. I'm not sure what happened to that.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Glad you brought that up.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: John.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: A couple of comments to follow up on. Lisa wrote
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: that she used pine cones in the garden to keep
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the neighborhood cats out. Pine cones pine needles are great
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: and it looks really natural and it does keep a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: lot of critters the holes out of your garden. So
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: that is a great tip, Lisa.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: So I think she's saying, I should stop torturing plants
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: with thorns. Yeah, exactly, I don't need to go that far.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: That's two extreme.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Sue wrote how to tell when to pick avocados, and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: then Leonora wrote avocados never ripen on the truth, they don't.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: You got to pick them and then they ripe it
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: on the counter.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: They say, can you put them in a paper bag
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: with an apple that will ethylene gas that will like
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: encourage curry.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: You know the ripening process. So, but to answer your question, Sue,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: number one, the thing that you look for most is size.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: So when you're looking at your avocado tree, when they
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: get to the size that you kind of want them
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: to start being, is when you start to pick them
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: and just pick one, leave it on the counter. See
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: what happens. It should ripen on the counter. After three
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: to four days, it should ripen. That's you if it yes,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't ripen, then do not continue picking avocado
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: right because that means that the ones that are on
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: the tree are going to begin are not fully developed
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: yet not going to ripen soon. If it does ripen
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: within three to four days, then now you know you
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: can start picking some of the other ones off of
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: your tree, because they will then ripe in on your counter.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: And you know, after this a few weeks, you know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: it might cut down to one to two days right
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: on the counter, you know. But they don't ripen on
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: the tree. They go straight from from you know, not
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: ripe to falling off the tree. That's what happened. And
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: you got to be careful with that. And I will
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: say for those of you that are avocado growers, just
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: because it falls on the ground doesn't mean it's ripe
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: well and doesn't mean it's bad. Yeah, so don't be
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: afraid to pick up those avocados and now, you know,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: bring them into the kitchen, let them ripe in. Yep.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they'll be over ripened and they'll rot out. That's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: not good. But hey, sometimes they're a good avocado and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: it's not you know, I mean, at four dollars a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: pop or what are two dollars a pop that they
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: are nowadays, there's some very valuable using.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Don't trip over the shallow root system.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. And oh, Carlo wrote, sorry Brian,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: but Bruce used to recommend it and you thought it
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: was a great idea. Did not mean to imply you
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: ever wanted to torture an animal.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: No, I this is all fun and games, carl of course,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I know that absolutely. But she's right about Bruce. When
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I first heard him, I thought, well, that's very interesting
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: because in the early days when it was Bruce and I,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: you know, he would say things and I was of
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: such a novice back then. Yeah, maybe I'll try that,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: but you don't have any cats.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I'll try it anyway. I'll keep I'll keep the stray
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: cats out of my garden. I think the keyword was torture. Yeah,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: but no, of course, Carla, I would never think that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: you meant that any other way.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: You know. You know, the one thing about keeping critters
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: out of the garden was the is really my only
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: the only way that I've ever really focused on keeping
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: something out of the yard is that motion activated sprinkler. Yeah,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: you know, because I'm not into trapping. And don't get
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: me wrong, like I don't have a gopher issue, right.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: But I know what you mean. Just it's you know,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing with a cat. We have a
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: spray bottle.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: At home, so it's very effective. And I love those
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: motion activated sprinklers because they were very effective, more effective
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: than the the repellence, more effective than the you know,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: you know, there's.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: No chemicals involved, there's none of them.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Wrong. Like, if I wanted to build a whole structure
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: to keep out whatever it was, that's another thing. But
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: sometimes it's just a matter of protecting one or two
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: plants in amongst other plants. That that motion activated sprinkler
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: was a great way to do it. So, yeah, I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: don't know where I got off on that tangent. I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: think we're just talking about just.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Talking about keep keeping cats, animals away from from your property,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: from your plants, you know, keeping deer away. That's always
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: a huge challenge for people to live in in those areas.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, and and it's crazy how how
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: damaging those critters can be. Yeah, one one swoop, Yeah know,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: so definitely got to be careful with that. All right.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: I think we are caught up on the questions again,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: so we're looking for.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: A few more then we've got We've got a few
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: minutes with this segment, and then one more after.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: This, touch on something real quick. Sure we go back
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: to our here we go, boom. The newsletter. We did
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: the quote of the week, which was a wonderful transition
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: into this time of year. So John had mentioned about
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: frost in the newslet and how they think that it
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  Speaker 3: only happens when air temperature drops below thirty two degrees,
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  Speaker 3: but that's not always the case because frost forms on
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  Speaker 3: the surface, not in the air, which means cold, clear
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: nights can create freezing conditions even when the thermometer reads
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  Speaker 3: thirty five to thirty six. So what he's kind of
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  Speaker 3: mentioning is that the air temperature doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 3: thirty two in order for it to be frost. What
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  Speaker 3: happens is, you know, around the plant itself, settling air,
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  Speaker 3: cool air, you know, all of that can affect We
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  Speaker 3: were talking about plants near the home don't get frost
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  Speaker 3: because the how radiates heat, but if it's only twenty
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  Speaker 3: feet away from the house, it could get from.
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  Speaker 2: Here's an analogy for those that follow football. So let's
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  Speaker 2: say it's uh September, still warm in many areas of
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  Speaker 2: the country, yeah, and they'll say the outside temperature is
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  Speaker 2: ninety degrees, but on the field it's one hundred. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So the field temperature is different than the air temperature
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  Speaker 2: at the stadium. Pretty much like what you're alluding to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very different in the environment, right right, And
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: since we're getting into the time of year for frost,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: just to give you some tips, don't use plastic. And
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: it's not that it's you can't use it, it's that
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: number one, plastic suffocates. Yes, number two, if you accidentally
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: leave it on through the day, it's gonna heat more
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: damaging for the place.
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  Speaker 2: Heat up right right, it's like it's a little greenhouse.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. So whether it's clear plastic or solid plastic, don't
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  Speaker 3: use plastic because it's it's not great. Don't use blankets,
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  Speaker 3: you know, number one blink am I suffocating well, and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: they can get very heavy, especially if there's any rain
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: or dew. And now you could be talking about breaking branches,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: crushing plants, damaging things. Use a very lightweight sheet if
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  Speaker 3: that's what you have. Frost cloth is always wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Hold that thought, all right, frost cloth, Okay, hold that thought.
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  Speaker 2: We have to take a break back after these messages.
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  Speaker 2: One more segment coming up here on Gardener Mary. Just
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: like that, we are back from the break. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: to those that are tuned into BIS Talk Radio, the
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  Speaker 2: rest of you on Facebook Live and just Prior to
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  Speaker 2: this break, we were talking about the dos and don'ts.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Don't cover plants with blankets, so on and so forth,
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  Speaker 2: tiger and anything else regarding that that we should not
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  Speaker 2: be doing.
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  Speaker 3: Where were you talking about? You know, this is the
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  Speaker 3: time of year for frost. You know, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: start to get those warnings. You're going to start to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: get that information about you know, a cold night coming along,
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  Speaker 3: and sometimes the plants are not ready for you and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: you need to attack them, right. You know, sometimes you
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: have those plants that are marginal for growing in your
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: region and you need to take a little extra care. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the best thing aside from frost cloth, which
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  Speaker 3: frost cloth is basically a fabric that is very lightweight, breatheable,
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  Speaker 3: and it just covers the plant enough to kind of
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  Speaker 3: protect the frost from sitting on the plant, so it
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't damage any of the foliage or branches. But a
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: lightweight sheet, if you've got that, you know, so.
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  Speaker 2: The air can still circulate, right, Yeah, the air can
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  Speaker 2: still circulate.
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  Speaker 3: It's light enough so that way it's not crushing the plant.
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  Speaker 3: You know. It's funny too, is that there's not a
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: lot of use for these besides your mattress. But you
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: know those fitted sheets.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course that the elastic right so that
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: it fits right.
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  Speaker 3: Those are actually really good to use because it kind
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: of is that shape where it cinches around a plant
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: or a bush and then you can always like it's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: not going to blow off. You know. One of the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: hardest things about flat sheet the ones that are not fitted.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: You put it on a plant, but then you have
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: to kind of kind of wrap it around un talking
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: around or tie or like weiighth it down. Well, with
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: the fitted ones, they automatically kind of go to a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: smaller end. So if you put it over a plant,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: a tree, or a shrub, it kind of naturally fits
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: around there. So those fitted sheets are really nice. I
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  Speaker 3: mean I don't I wouldn't. I wouldn't recommend I don't
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  Speaker 3: even know what number this would be, but like, yeah,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: you know how like thread accounts is important, like a
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  Speaker 3: thousand that's for comfort. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend your your
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: your thousand thread counts fitted sheets, but you know you
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: can get some nice ship of course sheets from the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: cheap sheets like sheet yeah, and and you know it's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: good to use, and they're they're readily available. I'm sure
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: everybody always has an extra sheet laying around here or there,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: or the old ones, you know, the old ones that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: you know you've gotten new ones, keep the old ones,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: and now you have them for your plants. So there
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  Speaker 3: you go. That's the way you protect frost.
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  Speaker 2: It's a beginning to look a lot like a sunny day.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Is beautiful out right, really nice clear skies, sunny, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be warm. Lots going on in San Diego. Today
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: is the big chance, not championship game, but the San
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Diego soccer team is playing for their spot in the
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: championship this evening. It's Black Friday is over. So what
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: is oh, small business Saturday?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Small Business Saturday?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, okay, So if you're you're gonna go shopping today,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: it's today's the recommendation to.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Go and support your small business.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: Small garden centers or small businesses, you know.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Speaking of things happening or not happening today, I think
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: this is one of the first weekends we've done the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: show here where your son Isaac didn't have a lacrosse
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: or a sporting thing that he was taking off at
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: six in the morning to do.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be next weekend. Next week. Oh yeah, exactly tomorrow.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: We have flag football for him.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: So uh now, didn't you have to drive a couple
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago way out to nor Go for a
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: tournament or football?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Next that lacross next weekend is just near an
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: ocean side though, so don't have the schedule yet on
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: that yet, so we'll see. But you know, it's fun
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: getting into the holidays with all this stuff going on.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: The kids keep you busy, of course, yeah, you know,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: for the kids love it. And I assume you're decorating the.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna we're starting to decorate. When you walked
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: into the house, you saw, you know, Jeanine started putting
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: the Christmas stuff out, and we're starting to decorate around
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: to kind of make it more festive. You've got lights.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I see lights over there.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Yep. I'll put the lights up today or tomorrow. You
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: round out back here, not so much back here, just
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: more in the front in the front. Yeah. I don't
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: know if well many people over this holiday or not,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: but you know, sometimes we decorate back here, sometimes we don't.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Just depends if we're entertaining.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have these lights here, these these clear
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: ones that are year round.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, those are just year round market lights
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: to kind of help illuminate the area. But yeah, it's
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: coming along. Oh, which which brings me to the joke,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: the joke the Garden Americas.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: The John's Weekly one panel joke.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, and it's just a joke, just a joke. I
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: don't know if I can pull it up.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I saw it real quick there in the newsletter.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know, but is that my and it was
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: regarding the lights on the Christmas tree. Let me see,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: does it come up here? No, it's only in the cover, right,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: And we can't always read it.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: It has to do with the format of the phone.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: And yeah, let me see, let me go back, okay,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I mean I'll try to get the gist.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Of it, because you can't see the whole thing there, right.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Christmas something with led Christmas lights. And we've talked about
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: this before because another thing that you can do to
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: protect your plants from frost cover them with light, right,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: like the lights to be able to kind of like
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: keep the frost down. And you wrote only if you
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: want your tomatoes to file a complaint, tell them incandescent
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: or nothing. And and I get I don't know the joke,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: But the gist of it is you cannot use led lights.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: They don't give off heat. They don't give off heat.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point of why they're nice to have
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: in the house exactly.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: So on your tropical plants that you're trying to keep
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: frost from settling on, you cannot use led Christmas lights
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: on them. To keep the frost off. You need to
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: have the old the old fashioned one condescent bowls that
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: do give off a bit of warm on the plant,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: and then that plant now will be protected in the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: wintertime through you know, the cold nights. So it's a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: great tip if you have got those, and you've got
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: some plants that you want to keep and you don't
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: want to cover them, you can put those lights on
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: them and that'll keep them warm as well. And those
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: lights are safe to use outside, I mean right, everybody
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: uses them on their homework outside for Christmas, you know.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: So it's not like you don't want to use indoor lights.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: You might run the risk of getting electrocuted or something
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: that's going to do it. Wow. Yeah, we control our
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: own destiny today.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: It's like the old Adder limits show back in the sixties.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: We control the transmission. We control the vertical the horizontal. Hey,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us again. We hope
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: you had a good Thanksgiving. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: We are hitting into the holidays. We're back next week
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: with John. Everything's back to normal. So again, thank you
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: so much for tuning in, those on biz Talk Radio
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: and those of you on Facebook Live. It's always good
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: to see you, always good to read the questions and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: the comments. Enjoy the rest of the weekend. As I mentioned,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend, we'll do it again next
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: week right here on Guard in America. Take care to