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- 0:36Hey kids, welcome back to a brand new season.
- 0:40Season three of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:43Who'd have thought we'd last this long?
- 0:45I remain, as always, your 100 % unbiased, completely impartial host, Old Man Shouting at Clouds.
- 0:55And joining me, as we've done in the past, we have a panel of experts.
- 1:00Now, a lot of these panels are football experts, so where they can...
- 1:04break down the tape and someone like maybe J.C.
- 1:08Abbott can tell you everything about what's going on in the draft.
- 1:11Our panel, they're good on football, but what they're experts at is fans.
- 1:16They've both been fans of this league forever and they know what they're talking about when it comes to the trials and tribulations of the CFL.
- 1:24So back this year, we've got MJ.
- 1:27Hey everyone, the snow is gone, the robins are here, there's baseball outside my window and the sound of the gridiron is back.
- 1:37So excited.
- 1:37sir.
- 1:38CFL football, yay.
- 1:40And GT.
- 1:43Hey everyone, welcome back to another new tradition.
- 1:46As our principal used to say in high school, another first for Crawford Park.
- 1:50Let's make it a tradition.
- 1:51So the tradition continues that after every win this year, I will be wearing the jersey.
- 1:56After every loss, I will be in consolation colors of some other type.
- 2:00So here we go.
- 2:01We are 1-0.
- 2:02Let's go.
- 2:03Yes, and you earned that in the pre-season there.
- 2:06Hey, it wins a win with Dave says you got to win them all
- 2:10Exactly.
- 2:10That never hurts starting the winning culture early.
- 2:13I'll give you that.
- 2:15And I got to say, folks that are back from before will have noticed we've got, as we talked about in the off season, a brand new logo.
- 2:22We're changing the look a little bit.
- 2:25We're trying to update stuff.
- 2:26Apparently folks are liking it.
- 2:28We're seeing more and more people paying attention.
- 2:31I wanted to mention we've had a few folks start to...
- 2:35throw in some comments and that's great to see.
- 2:38if you haven't subscribed yet, please subscribe, hit a like, it's easy to do.
- 2:42And if you've got anything to say, throw in a comment.
- 2:44We love to hear them.
- 2:45And frankly, that's how we feed the logarithm God.
- 2:49That's what he likes.
- 2:50So just to mention a couple of folks that have been paying attention, we've got Theodore King, 8468 here.
- 2:58And we were talking about the moving the season up early and he's, Theodore put in.
- 3:03a number of really good comments, go to YouTube and you can read them there.
- 3:07A lot of good ones, some I agree with, some I don't, but this one that I'm just going to do, he talked about the snow in training camp isn't a big deal.
- 3:14There are indoor facilities that can be used.
- 3:16The snow can be cleared like they do for regular season games.
- 3:19CFL will have taken that into consideration.
- 3:21And I got to say, Theodore, overall on the schedule, you've kind of convinced me.
- 3:26I don't like a lot of what they're doing, but.
- 3:28When they put the league, when they put the games out there, that's up to the league.
- 3:33And if they're going to finalize it as a May long weekend start and move ahead, let's just hope that tradition works.
- 3:39You're right.
- 3:39So of all the things I might complain about, that's when I'm going to stop.
- 3:43And then the other one I wanted to mention, just because I got a kick out of this, it was degenerate 4-2-8, 4-2-3-2.
- 3:51Not for nothing, but I'm looking forward to see how this will all play out.
- 3:54He was talking about the new form, playoff formats.
- 3:57And then he said, and if it means more GT rants, then I'm here for it.
- 4:02LOL.
- 4:04So the rants are proving popular.
- 4:06I'm not sure you can avoid those no matter what happens.
- 4:09So there we go.
- 4:11that's a good thing cause folks are liking them.
- 4:13so thank you to, I should say thank you both for a great season last year.
- 4:18Having you both come on the podcast is really made it a lot more fun, a lot more enjoyable and people are apparently starting to take to that So good stuff.
- 4:26I will jump right into things.
- 4:28I don't know how long this one's going to be.
- 4:29It's our first one of the season, but there's only so much to talk about.
- 4:32We've had one preseason game, of course, and.
- 4:35Then we've had the training camps and frankly, I don't know if it's that I'm a little more disengaged or if there's just been less.
- 4:43I'm not seeing a lot of news out of the first week of any of the training camps, nothing big, nothing that would sort of really make me stand up and take notice.
- 4:51How about, how about the two of you, anything?
- 4:53Well, I think so far there hasn't been another cut down date since the initial one.
- 4:58I sent uh whatever we do call that on Blue Sky, put out a message just saying there was some surprises in the first few days of cut downs at the first round where they had to get
- 5:07down to 85.
- 5:07There were a few names that I was a little bit surprised about.
- 5:10No huge, huge names, but still some pretty steady guys, oh you know, and some multi-year veterans that I was surprised were released that early.
- 5:18Since then, there's been no cut down necessary.
- 5:21So I don't think we have anything to really hear about.
- 5:23I think this year has been pretty good.
- 5:25Blue Sky has now, for everybody that doesn't already know, I think all three of us are off of Twitter and onto Blue Sky as our main source of information.
- 5:36And finally, this year, most of the teams, in fact, all the teams and the league are now mirroring their, no, not everybody.
- 5:44it's not the league that did it.
- 5:45Somebody made bots that are just reposting them.
- 5:49So somebody went and did the good work of just like automating it for all of us.
- 5:55Don't get this.
- 5:56Don't get the team's credit.
- 5:57It's not them.
- 5:58it's there at least.
- 6:00it's an MJ rant There we go.
- 6:02But yes, at least it's there.
- 6:04And I've been seeing a lot of news that I hadn't been seeing, like I did not see last year.
- 6:08And so that's been great.
- 6:09There's been a lot of, it's all internal hype from their own PR teams.
- 6:14know, everybody's fantastic.
- 6:16you know, it's a winning season to be sure type of stuff, but at least it is information and you're getting it.
- 6:21So, so I've been pretty pleased with that.
- 6:24I just have like well my two surprise cuts that things that are happening on the Argos cut Doege and he's over in BC now and the Thai cats release Keaton Berkling so our guest Ken
- 6:38and I had a little cry about it and we we sorted through some feelings and my favorite thing out of training camp is the social media videos and
- 6:47The red blacks have been giving some of their players plants to take care of during training camp.
- 6:52So that's been fun to watch them try to keep them alive.
- 6:55And my favorite is every team's doing this, I think, well, except for a few, but they have the, they're asking players when they were born.
- 7:03And if it starts with 19, they just put a dinosaurs in the background.
- 7:09Hahaha
- 7:10Yes.
- 7:11It just, it makes me realize how young all these players are.
- 7:16it.
- 7:16Yeah, so I think it was in the game, the preseason game, that they mentioned somebody playing out there was born in 2005.
- 7:25And I thought, oh my god.
- 7:27Uh, life just keeps right on going by.
- 7:31Well, as far as Burling goes, I wouldn't, I'm not going to, um, be too sad yet because he was a solid Canadian player and as teams get through training camps and get some injuries
- 7:43and see what they have, I wouldn't be surprised if he's back somewhere in the league.
- 7:47uh
- 7:48part of it is that he wants to keep bobsledding, like bobsled training.
- 7:52He'll have time to dedicate to it.
- 7:55The only...
- 7:56have to find another team that'll let them do both.
- 7:58Kind of like Shohei Otani can pitch and bat.
- 8:01There you
- 8:02There was a time that wasn't such an amazing thing, just thinking back to baseball history, like I know any of it.
- 8:11The only thing that I noticed, and it's not really a training camp thing, it's just one of those, one of the things where things are cyclical.
- 8:22And I was looking at a bit of the stuff out of camps and I realized, you know, we went into the, the season last year.
- 8:28think our first broadcast, we were talking about the fact that every team had a good seasoned backup quarterback behind, uh, the starters.
- 8:36And so that they looked like they were in good shape.
- 8:38And that has certainly turned around in the West this year, the East they've, they've still pretty good.
- 8:44But if you look at it in the West, it is, I mean, Edmonton has got,
- 8:49Taylor Powell who's got some game experience, but other than that BC's not really got anything.
- 8:56Calgary's got a, a battle.
- 8:58Well, yeah, they have Doege now.
- 8:59I guess, sorry, I forgot that.
- 9:01So he may be the number two, but, but Calgary's got a battle going.
- 9:06Saskatchewan does.
- 9:07Winnipeg, everyone assumes it's going to be Elgersma but he's never played a CFL game.
- 9:13So.
- 9:14Could be interesting if the starters start to miss some time in the West.
- 9:18Absolutely.
- 9:19Absolutely.
- 9:20I think that is one of the funnest things about the preseason is seeing those kinds of things and watching those battles where there are positions open and or a veteran that
- 9:35might be losing it to a rookie.
- 9:37And those are always good.
- 9:39And I think the backup quarterbacks in the West is probably the key story of the training camps.
- 9:45And so far,
- 9:46We'll see what happens in these games coming up, but on Monday there wasn't much indication of anyone really standing out, so we'll see.
- 9:53Well, there you you blew my lead in GT because I was going to say, speaking of which, let's talk about how they did the ones in the game on Monday.
- 10:04Because really it was it was that's OK.
- 10:06It was it was a.
- 10:09It was an early preseason, preseason game, and My personal thought was it was, good to see some football again.
- 10:16Nothing jumped out as, here's a potential star coming out of here.
- 10:20Nothing jumped out as, oh, this looks terrible.
- 10:23It was just a preseason game.
- 10:26And how about for you?
- 10:27How did you see it?
- 10:29Let's start with MJ then.
- 10:30Oh well.
- 10:31So they're actually lucky they had nice weather because two days before it was snowing in Calgary for the soccer game.
- 10:38So they were nice that they had nice weather.
- 10:40I'm actually surprised I started VA.
- 10:43I saw that depth chart and I was like, excuse me, what?
- 10:46Okay, so he played, I actually didn't even want, I didn't even start this game until the second half, so I didn't actually get to see him play.
- 10:52My things are not football related, they are announcer related.
- 10:56My favorite things were the, well, it was the Calgary radio guys.
- 11:01And they're actually quite fun.
- 11:04My son actually was like, I actually liked this better than the regular announcers.
- 11:08You
- 11:09Okay.
- 11:11But they got caught on the hot mic at least twice where they went to commercial and they were over talking the commercial.
- 11:16So I got to hear, we all got to hear some behind the scenes about how they're going to come back in from break.
- 11:21So that was a little behind the scenes look.
- 11:24And it's always fun to like have some local accents because how that announcer was pronouncing Hawaii was Hawaii.
- 11:31And that's how it's now being pronounced at my house constantly.
- 11:36Okay.
- 11:36Yes.
- 11:38I also noticed that now that Dante McMahone has moved to McMahon Stadium, they're calling him Dante McMahon again.
- 11:49No, they did not.
- 11:50I couldn't figure out who they were talking about for a minute.
- 11:53was like who were they talking about?
- 11:54I was like oh Mac Mahone.
- 11:56So we'll see.
- 11:57Yeah, they actually had an interview with McMahon after the game with the Stampeders broadcast girl, Natasha, and she asked him, how do you want us to pronounce it?
- 12:11And he said, I'm fine with McMahon.
- 12:12I've been called McMahon forever and now I'm at the stadium, but my name technically is McMahon And she said, okay, we're your McMahon from here on.
- 12:20So hopefully they figure that out on the radio too.
- 12:23Yeah, but they did go through it for the, I guess for the local color at least to let people know.
- 12:28Yeah, that was good.
- 12:29I thought the broadcast was exactly what you said old man.
- 12:32It was okay.
- 12:33The game was okay.
- 12:34There wasn't anything tremendous.
- 12:35VA threw a couple of bombs, one that worked, one that didn't.
- 12:39Although I thought they could have challenged the one that didn't.
- 12:41And I thought the most interesting and the best thing about the broadcast was with the first break,
- 12:47that they did was an ad for flag football and for the Olympic flag football thing.
- 12:53And I thought that was really well done.
- 12:54I thought that was a really nice, like nicely shot, nice ad.
- 12:59then I was, and I was hyped because I thought, we're going to see more than just shots.
- 13:02then for the rest of the game, it was just the player shots for, you know, minutes.
- 13:06So I just skipped through as much as I could.
- 13:08And hence I missed the two things that you talked about MJ there with the local guys.
- 13:13So I didn't hear either.
- 13:15But I didn't think there was any real standouts either.
- 13:17I thought Calgary's defense swarmed to the ball well, if nothing else, but it was almost like a Pee-wee game where a play would happen and be 15 guys running at the ball.
- 13:26It was a little bit of that.
- 13:28There was a couple of nice catches from both sides, but there wasn't anything outstanding.
- 13:33What did you think of the quarterbacking?
- 13:35I'm interested in your opinion of the quarterbacking, Oldman for Saskatchewan in particular.
- 13:41well I'll start with Calgary because Calgary had more people out there to see.
- 13:46And I will say right off the bat that I think probably every quarterback that played in that game had at least one throw they'd want back, including VA on the deep bomb.
- 13:54But like you said, that's early season rust.
- 13:56He did look good.
- 13:57Outside of VA, I, for the little bit that we got, I actually thought that, Wooldridge looked the best out of the Calgary Pivots back there.
- 14:06I thought he.
- 14:07I know Love's got more time in the league, but I Wildridge looked better on the Saskatchewan side.
- 14:13To me, Cohn looked like somebody who needs more live reps and it, I can't tell if he's going to turn into something good or if it's going to be misplaced trust for the last
- 14:26three or four years.
- 14:26He didn't look terrible out there, but he made some mistakes and like I said, needs more time.
- 14:32know Dunk.
- 14:33from the three down guys has been raving the few times I've heard him about, uh, was it Shagler?
- 14:39think they're the third or fourth string in Saskatchewan now that the 22 year old out of Hawaii and yeah Hawaii.
- 14:47And I, I don't know what he was watching that it did.
- 14:52mean, he's an ex college quarterback, so I'll, I'll bow to his expertise there, but Shagler, he made a couple of nice throws.
- 14:59He.
- 15:00Drew to the right place a couple of times, but he was also inaccurate and missing, throwing where, where it shouldn't have been in my mind.
- 15:08So I was not near as high on that.
- 15:11think that based on what I saw that we, the riders have to hope that Cohn actually turns into something for when they need him during the season.
- 15:20Any dissent from either of you?
- 15:22Actually, I was more interested and I asked specifically about Saskatchewan because of the headline on the Three Down article and I didn't read the article.
- 15:34I just saw the headline and again, I'm sorry, I cannot get over it.
- 15:38I need to get over it.
- 15:40I have to get over it, but it just makes me nuts.
- 15:45It's Pavlov's dog.
- 15:47As soon as Three Down's
- 15:49leads with a writer story like that.
- 15:52I'm like, what game were you watching?
- 15:54Where does this come from?
- 15:56I didn't see that.
- 15:57Am I wrong?
- 15:58Or what are you looking at?
- 15:59And you just basically said what I saw.
- 16:03He looked okay, but he's, you know, it's the third or the fourth quarter of the of an exhibition game or a preseason game against third string guys that don't even so like to
- 16:17GT, he was directing traffic.
- 16:19I heard.
- 16:20I didn't see, I have not read the article, so I cannot make comments on it, but just the headline, as I say, it's like, guys, stop doing that.
- 16:30You're supposed to be a league wide coverage.
- 16:34It's like, ay, ay, ay.
- 16:36But anyway, I gotta get over it.
- 16:38That's my issue, not theirs, I'm sure.
- 16:41So.
- 16:41so happy this is happening first episode.
- 16:44Okay.
- 16:48Yeah.
- 16:48It's about like, like I've said before, they are officially part of Harvard broadcasting now, the official voice of the writers.
- 16:55And I know Dunk is on the pregame show and the postgame shows.
- 16:59And I think he does all on the radio, of course.
- 17:02I think he does some of the halftime in that.
- 17:03And yeah, he's, uh, I believe he's dranken the Kool-Aid.
- 17:08Mind you, I.
- 17:09to like get away from this so we don't have a...
- 17:14I tried because all I saw the whole commercial time was CFL pick them and my kid kept bugging me, bugging me, bugging me so we went on the site and we're like doing our little
- 17:25pickups and then it kept giving me an error.
- 17:27Did that happen to you guys?
- 17:29I didn't even try
- 17:31I tried to get in today and yeah, I don't know.
- 17:34I tried to get in today and, and it seemed to work fine.
- 17:38I set up, uh, my personal account and I set up one for the show so that when we do our stuff later, we'll be, we'll be going to the right place.
- 17:46Yeah.
- 17:48Yeah.
- 17:49Well, it's working now, but, but we're still, there's still a lot of stuff going on there that, that's strange.
- 17:55talk about that a little bit.
- 17:57And I will say in Justin Dunk's defense, I have been part of the riders broadcast team way back in the day, not actually on the air, but I was the tech from 84, no, from 87 to 90,
- 18:12the tech in the, I was the chief engineer for the station.
- 18:15So I did all the, the broadcast set up and that, and it's awful hard not to drink the Kool-Aid when you're around that.
- 18:22It is just.
- 18:2424-7 of positive rider vibes all over the place.
- 18:29It's so, you know, it's hard to stay neutral.
- 18:33Yeah, and you know, he didn't look horrible.
- 18:35It's not like he was pumping the tires of a guy that looked terrible.
- 18:38But at the same time, and again, I will, you know, full disclosure, I did not read the article.
- 18:45So I don't know.
- 18:46But the headline is just the bait.
- 18:49That whole click bait thing that drives me crazy.
- 18:53So before we move on, we'll do it quick, but what, what about you on the Calgary quarterbacks behind VA?
- 18:59I thought love was disappointing.
- 19:01I thought and hoped that he would be a solid number two.
- 19:06I've said that here and I've said it other places and ah I thought he started very slow and got a little better and then threw a touchdown But I thought he looked tentative and I
- 19:16thought he looked a little worried about his job.
- 19:18I thought Woodridge looked really poised when he came in.
- 19:22You know, again, who's he playing against is a big question.
- 19:25But I thought he looked pretty good.
- 19:26He made a couple of really nice passes.
- 19:29We'll see.
- 19:30And I thought, what's his name?
- 19:32Jacoby, the last quarterback.
- 19:34can't remember his last name, which is horrible.
- 19:36And I apologize.
- 19:37But he was, again, I guess Dave said he's only been there a week or two.
- 19:45He has no background.
- 19:48So it was pretty tough for him to
- 19:50to maneuver much and he's a big body is what I thought more than anything.
- 19:54He's not a quarterback looking quarterback.
- 19:57He's a linebacker looking quarterback.
- 19:59He's a big body.
- 20:01So.
- 20:01a short yardage quarterback.
- 20:06No.
- 20:06he's, he, he just reminds me of a guy that was in Montreal in that whole, you know, rotation after Calvio was gone.
- 20:14had one guy that was just massive as a quarterback.
- 20:17And this guy kind of reminded me of him a little bit stature wise.
- 20:21Um, and he may turn out, he may not.
- 20:23And Dickinson said afterwards that he's going to, you know, he's not doing any cuts until after, until he has to, and he's going to run all four quarterbacks.
- 20:31And he said,
- 20:31at the end of the interview that hey, there might be somebody else that's let loose by another team that we go after instead.
- 20:37So he's not, he's not, he's not set with the four guys he has and he's not set any order of them yet.
- 20:44And you know what?
- 20:45Montreal brought back James Morgan, which I thought was kind of odd.
- 20:48what I was going to say on Wildridge though, was, um, the thing that impressed me the most was there was at least twice I saw where the, the riders blitzed and he basically threw
- 20:59where the hole was that was created by the blitz was and completed nice passes.
- 21:04And so that kind of recognition in your first pre-season game in the CFL, that, that impressed me.
- 21:10Anything else about it or, I guess I should say the other thing is you mentioned the flag football.
- 21:16They also had some interviews with little snippets with players that they played at halftime and during some of the, um, the commercial breaks and that.
- 21:25So they, they did have a little more commercial content.
- 21:28It was nice to see them doing that.
- 21:30I want to see more.
- 21:31It doesn't take that much to have something unique for each commercial break.
- 21:35And then, you know, we're going to play the season predictor because.
- 21:39It seemed to sear into my brain.
- 21:41was still 50 % of the ads time was to play the CFL season predictor.
- 21:47So we'll get to that later.
- 21:49All right.
- 21:50Um, we're going to talk about the latest rule changes and we discovered here as we were getting ready for this, that GT's got them, but a few technical difficulties.
- 22:00So we may or may not see his smiling face while he gives us the rule changes.
- 22:05Over to you, GT.
- 22:06you're gonna, I'm gonna read them off and you're gonna hear my dulcet tones, but you're not gonna, unfortunately, or fortunately as the case may be, depending on your outlook, be
- 22:16able to gaze upon me at the same time.
- 22:19please forgive me while I disappear for a few minutes, but this is only a technical thing and I hopefully shall return without any issues.
- 22:26Let's make this work.
- 22:28the magic go on, here we go.
- 22:30So they have.
- 22:322026 keynotes on Rule changes directly from the CFL website.
- 22:37The final three minutes will be 20 second play clock maintained.
- 22:41So that's good.
- 22:42And I wanna talk about briefly that does bring back to the game that we just talked about.
- 22:47I was watching the play clock during that game to see if I could see the 35 seconds and how it impacted my viewing of the game.
- 22:55And I don't know if it was because it was.
- 22:58the one camera or if it was because it was a preseason game.
- 23:02But it seemed to me that there was an awful lot of time where that clock just showed 35 seconds and stuck there.
- 23:08I thought it was supposed to count down immediately upon the previous play being dead.
- 23:13And yet that didn't seem to happen.
- 23:14So I'm not sure whether it was me, whether it was the game, whether it was the broadcast.
- 23:19But that's interesting.
- 23:20Because I was worried that we were going to have less showboating and hot dogging because by the you do your barrel roll and do your air guitar, the play has snapped again.
- 23:31Yeah, absolutely.
- 23:32So there is that.
- 23:33There's the first one.
- 23:34The second one is the regular season overtime.
- 23:37So no more ties, basically is what it comes down to, is that they are getting rid of ties.
- 23:43And again, this is something that our friend Stuart talked about as far back as September, when he, know, going back to his high school days, he hated ties, apparently.
- 23:51So that was something.
- 23:53So they've done away with ties.
- 23:55to mini games from the 35 yard line, those will still happen.
- 23:58But if if it's still a tie after that, we will now have a shoot out from the two point conversions until somebody actually wins.
- 24:08Again, I believe and this is just my, you know, tinfoil hat stuff.
- 24:13It's, I believe that this is all about gambling because the bookies and trendsetters, line setters hate ties.
- 24:21They know that they've complained about it every time they show the, some guy in Vegas, his head tilts when they say you can do it a rouge or you can get a tie.
- 24:30Those are the two things that they tilt on.
- 24:32So I'm pretty positive no matter what the league likes to say, this is more about anything, more about the gambling than anything else.
- 24:40Um
- 24:41So quickly, do you still get a point if you've made it over time?
- 24:46Or is it like after the mini game shootout zero points if you lose it?
- 24:52zero points if you lose it.
- 24:53So, so there will, so yeah, and that's where, and that's where I think that comes into the gambling aspect.
- 25:00Again, I'm not a degenerate gambler like some people are, but I believe that's the case.
- 25:05Okay, so it's automatic review on turnovers on downs.
- 25:09So a turnover on downs ruling will result in an automatic review from the replay center.
- 25:14I don't see what difference that makes unless they're gonna have a completely different weird camera that we're not gonna be able to see, because in a pile up,
- 25:21on a short yardage, you know, it's a third and one or third and two and it's, especially now that they're gonna ask oh teams to go for it more and not kick field goals with the
- 25:30change next year, then you you might have third and ones, third and twos, third and threes even, you know, and a big mug of players all in there, how they're gonna spot the ball and
- 25:40how will they know and what difference that'll make is gonna be interesting.
- 25:44Then the QB kneels to end a half or a game.
- 25:48A of the game or may a half or the game may end on a single kneel if all of the following conditions are met.
- 25:55The defense does not possess a timeout.
- 25:58It is first down and the offense wishes to end the half or the game.
- 26:0240 seconds or fewer remain on the game clock.
- 26:05So you have to have all three of those.
- 26:08So we're, don't believe it's going to turn into two minutes left in the game and like the NFL and people are wandering onto the field.
- 26:16Yeah.
- 26:16I'm going to say my piece on this.
- 26:19I've wanted to change that rule forever.
- 26:22My whole thing is, is there should be no kneel downs as long as the game is within a converted touchdown.
- 26:28So if the game scores within a converted touchdown, in my opinion, no matter how much time is left, if it's one second on the clock, you should have to put the ball in play.
- 26:38The whole point of this game is two.
- 26:40Number one, the offense to put the ball in play to try to score.
- 26:45And number two, the defense to take the ball away and prevent them from scoring and try to score.
- 26:51So as long as it's within a converted touchdown, I believe, in my own personal opinion, the rules should be simply you're not allowed to it can be a fumble, it can be an
- 27:02incomplete pass, it could be a bad snap, it can be any of those things under the pressure of you need to do it.
- 27:09So as long as it's within a converted touchdown,
- 27:14and that includes the two point conversion, then you should be able to, the defense should get the chance to get the ball back.
- 27:22That's my own opinion.
- 27:23Everybody that's out there that listening to us or whatever, or if you guys have a different opinion, please let me know.
- 27:28But that's how I believe they could have changed that rule.
- 27:31They should have changed that rule and it would make the league distinct again.
- 27:35It would make it exciting again.
- 27:37And it would have given us a yet another way that we could watch those final three minutes of the game on the edge of our seats.
- 27:44That's that's a fair point.
- 27:45I'm going to give us a baseball analogy.
- 27:48And the kneel downs near the end, especially at halftime when the clock is really close.
- 27:55It's kind of like in baseball where they used to walk intentionally walk batters and they had to make the catcher stand a foot away and the catcher would stand up and they just
- 28:04like they wouldn't even throw the ball they just lob the ball in and we'd all have to then the
- 28:10catcher throws it back and then the batter could step out of the box step back there step and we're all just waiting and watching because it would take forever and now they're just
- 28:19like now they just say we're intentionally walking this person just go to first base like do not do not do the whole rigmarole like this is pointless just just just we know what
- 28:29you're doing just go to first so i feel like they're kind of trying to say like okay there's
- 28:34Less than 40 seconds left.
- 28:36No one has a timeout.
- 28:37It's just just we know you're going to kneel at three times.
- 28:41Just like forget it.
- 28:41Just wrap it up and let's At the end of the game, at the end of the game is a little bit dicier because there's a 20 second clock and as we all know what can happen in 20 seconds
- 28:52end of half.
- 28:53Probably a little more.
- 28:55Just take your base.
- 28:56But I think at the end of the game, maybe not so much, but.
- 29:01I guess we'll see how it plays out.
- 29:02Yeah.
- 29:04So the next one was dead ball placement.
- 29:06If a kick goes out of bounds, basically, and no points are awarded, you're going to scrimmage from the 40.
- 29:12That was everybody was trying to figure out where that was going to go, where the ball was going to be.
- 29:17It's going to be at the 40 yard line.
- 29:19I'm wondering if they're going to change that next year when we go to the shorter field, because that's awfully close.
- 29:24That's awfully close.
- 29:25So it might be, this might be adjusted next year for the shorter field and it might go back to the 30 instead.
- 29:32It might go to the 35.
- 29:33I don't know.
- 29:34I wouldn't be surprised.
- 29:35I would be surprised if it's a faster.
- 29:38Yeah.
- 29:39Just leave it.
- 29:40But the 40 is instant field position, really.
- 29:44You can cough and corner a kick from there easily, especially if you take out the once the extra 10 yards are out.
- 29:51Like there are going to be kickers.
- 29:52I guess the goalposts will be at the end.
- 29:53But so it's different.
- 29:55But still, you're in immediate field position anyway you cut it.
- 30:00Agreed.
- 30:01I think we lost Old Man.
- 30:03okay, well, perhaps it's just you and I running the show again.
- 30:06I run in the rules.
- 30:08He just didn't want to be a part of the rules.
- 30:09Too cool.
- 30:12Too cool for school.
- 30:14I'm back, sorry, I don't know quite what happened there.
- 30:19my yeah
- 30:21down,
- 30:22changes.
- 30:22a couple, there's just a couple small ones left here that they're not really big deal.
- 30:26Roster flexibility and ineligible receivers, those aren't a big deal.
- 30:32The other ones were the major ones.
- 30:34There's no player safety rules this year, rule changes this year.
- 30:38with the kneel down, I just, I don't quite understand.
- 30:41I mean, I'm not going to get terribly upset about it.
- 30:43It's, it's a small thing, but why, you know, it worked.
- 30:46It's part of our tradition for forever that we played till the end of the game.
- 30:51This is one more thing that moves us closer to looking like the NFL changes for the sake of change.
- 30:56Why?
- 30:57You know, are you going to save 40 seconds on your broadcast time?
- 31:00Who cares?
- 31:01part of my, yeah, apparently I'll have a lot to do with getting that new deal, which we're still not hearing anything about.
- 31:08But, but other than that, to me, they're all house cleaning rules.
- 31:11Like you said, MJ, nothing about player safety.
- 31:14Does that mean they have it right?
- 31:15I don't know.
- 31:16Nothing about weather protocols this year.
- 31:19Yeah, or smoke as we head into the super Godzilla behemoth El Nino season.
- 31:26There's already wildfires in Alberta.
- 31:29So.
- 31:30Yep.
- 31:32ah that's that.
- 31:35love our rants about the kneel down.
- 31:36You're gonna love it.
- 31:37We had differing opinions.
- 31:39It was great.
- 31:40Okay.
- 31:41Well, we'll see what my editing skills are, how I can make something out of the mishmash that was my internet connection.
- 31:51All right.
- 31:52Let's go on to the power rankings.
- 31:55We put that in because CFL hasn't released their AMSOIL ones yet, but 3Down released theirs, although I just went back onto the site to try and find it and couldn't.
- 32:05So I, okay, good.
- 32:08Well, I've got them here too, but if you've got them easy to, to read through, can do that.
- 32:12I went the other way.
- 32:13I went back to where I'd posted them on the Reddit CFL and opened it up that way, but they, basically I thought they played it safe.
- 32:21They went with the four division finalists as their top four and went from there.
- 32:25Do you want to read them out for us MJ
- 32:28Alright, so number one.
- 32:29Well, I will save my commentary after after I will just read them out and then I will comment after.
- 32:34One riders, two lions, three alouettes, four Ti cats, five stamps, six bombers, seven Elks, eight red blacks, nine Argos.
- 32:47So that's how three down has stacked it up.
- 32:49No surprise they put the riders first.
- 32:51No JK.
- 32:53They won the Grey Cup They're allowed to be first.
- 32:57Yeah, I agree with that one.
- 32:59you know don't think it was i don't think they were all of those rankings at this stage of the game
- 33:04I played them, I thought they played it very safe going with what they did and they, and I don't know that, that they paid attention to sort of some of the stuff that's going on.
- 33:13I, I'll tell you what mine are and then if you want, you can go from there and I'll even, I'll even throw in a couple where I'm off sort of more from what they are and I'll explain
- 33:24why.
- 33:24So, so I had Sask at the top because again, you're defending Grey Cup champs.
- 33:28You should get that out of respect.
- 33:30I had Montreal number two.
- 33:32I still think that.
- 33:33They looked like the second best team in the league and I think that they're going to probably improve this year.
- 33:40My third one, and it's got a lot to do with the fact that they've got what could be a reasonably good backup and what they've had in the past.
- 33:47I've got Winnipeg at number three.
- 33:50And I know nobody's doing that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
- 33:54Then I went with Hamilton who's been close but can't seem to put it together.
- 33:59Then I had Calgary.
- 34:01And the only reason I didn't have Calgary higher is I feel like I've got to see VA put together a full season.
- 34:07He's, he's been good, but there's been the lulls in them.
- 34:11So there's that.
- 34:13had BC below them and mainly because their offense is fantastic, but until I see a defense, I'm not sure that they're, that they're going to do as well in this year's league
- 34:23is what people think.
- 34:24I had Edmonton at number seven, Ottawa at eight and Toronto at nine.
- 34:28So was sort of the same at the top and the bottom as, as them, but I think the middle will be a little different than what people are saying right now.
- 34:35Feel free to throw stones at my picks.
- 34:38Yeah, well, I'm...
- 34:40Go ahead.
- 34:41Yeah, no, I, I everybody's picks there, you know, that's power rankings.
- 34:46that's not, that's not pick.
- 34:47So there's difference I've just looked at it as right now, a power ranking to me is right this week, right now who's, and that's how I view it versus a season predictor of mine are
- 35:00different than those power rankings that I agreed to from three, from three down.
- 35:04So, I'm closer to where you are on.
- 35:07on or at least I have some different projections that people might shake their head at on season long projections that I did.
- 35:14Okay, yeah, to that.
- 35:17will say I probably should have thought of it more of a power ranking.
- 35:21Who will win the first games that they play?
- 35:24And mine was more looking at a bit more of a prediction, how the season could play out and just sort of on the relative strengths of them.
- 35:32So anything else around that or anything more we need to talk about?
- 35:36I wouldn't put a team who doesn't have a viable backup as a number two in a power ranking, but that's me.
- 35:44Yeah.
- 35:44Well, there, there, there is that, know, mind you depends what you call a viable backup.
- 35:51Crum, He may be a viable backup.
- 35:53So.
- 35:54You know, that's what I said.
- 35:56They went with BC as number two and I agree with that.
- 35:58know, mind you, they've got a team without a proven backup as their number one as well.
- 36:02If we're, if we're going by backup quarterbacks, it would be the top, or the four Eastern teams at the top and then go from there.
- 36:0920 different ranking systems based on different like...
- 36:14is why power rankings are so much fun, but it's not so much doing it as much as is just seeing reactions to them.
- 36:21Because there's always somebody that blows up based on what you've said, right?
- 36:25And I'm like, yeah, it's just me.
- 36:27out guys the tune out guys do a power ranking sheldon does power rngs and people like lose it lose it every time he does though it's the best
- 36:36Yes, I think there's a reason we've stayed away from doing that.
- 36:39It's a little too controversial.
- 36:42Anyway, going on.
- 36:45Sure, well, if we can certainly do that, let's if you want to add it in.
- 36:50though!
- 36:50Based on uniform color, who is power- power- the power rankings this week?
- 36:56Yes.
- 36:58Okay.
- 36:59Moving on.
- 36:59Well, actually not quite moving on, I'm going to display my incredible ignorance of any sports outside football.
- 37:05I just noticed Edmonton Stingers.
- 37:08What's that?
- 37:09is that the C-E-B-L?
- 37:10It's our...
- 37:11It's the CBL team!
- 37:14Season started!
- 37:15that one more item down the rundown.
- 37:17It would have been a nice lead in.
- 37:19We'll come back to that.
- 37:22Because the only other thing I had ahead of it was just again, no new CF.
- 37:27Yes.
- 37:28Yeah.
- 37:29Well, no new CFL app and the website doesn't seem, I mean, they're doing something.
- 37:35One of the things I noticed as I was setting up the accounts today was
- 37:39You get into your account and it's got a place to link all your social media links on when you dig deep enough in.
- 37:46And it says you have no social media accounts and there's no way to put them in.
- 37:50it's, it's a problem.
- 37:52It must be still be a work in progress.
- 37:55They've got a explanation of the fantasy game up there, but not really saying, Oh, you'll be able to use the waiver wire and do this and that.
- 38:03Or you can still play the way that we've always played the weekly one if you want.
- 38:07nothing more with two weeks to go so
- 38:09Well, we have to admit though, they said by the time the regular season starts, so they've got two weeks grace yet.
- 38:19When they're two weeks in, then we can get on them.
- 38:22But for now, have to be nice guys, be nice.
- 38:26Yeah, weren't they also supposed to be announcing a new TV deal before the season started?
- 38:31uh It's a busy two weeks.
- 38:37uh
- 38:38Nothing counts.
- 38:40Every team's a 0 and 1.
- 38:41Every team's 1 and 0.
- 38:43Come on.
- 38:44Yes, exactly.
- 38:45Okay, so now let me reuse that stinger I wasted.
- 38:49Hey MJ, you're wearing an Edmonton stinger!
- 38:52Is that C-E-B-L?
- 38:53Hey guys, I'm learning about basketball!
- 38:56Yeah!
- 38:57Yeah
- 38:57got something to tell us about what they're doing with their league and media and everything.
- 39:02So if the CFL wants to take some notes from a league that has been just started in 2019, pay attention.
- 39:10Mike Morelli has built something quite incredible.
- 39:13They have a new deal with CBC to air all their games on CBC, CBC GEM and on YouTube.
- 39:20And my husband wanted to make sure I noted that the YouTube games are in 4K.
- 39:26Hmm.
- 39:26Yeah.
- 39:27Nice.
- 39:29Yeah.
- 39:30Last year, the last couple years, they've had a deal with TSN and it was blurry.
- 39:35It was on TV.
- 39:36It was blurry.
- 39:38It was unwatchable, which felt bad because whenever we were at games, there's guys doing that they had play by play.
- 39:43They had sideline reports and they were clearly doing like they were working hard and it just looked like garbage on on TSN.
- 39:50So now they're on CBC and they uh CBC did really nice social media and announcing all their announcers, color commentators, play by play, in game hosts, commentators like.
- 40:03half time panelists and one of their half time panelists also she's also doing the WNBA as well.
- 40:08My son pointed that out to me.
- 40:10He was on it.
- 40:11He knew.
- 40:12So they also have like and also the games.
- 40:14This is where the app comes in.
- 40:15The games are also on the app.
- 40:17I actually did a little video earlier today of just going through their app to kind of show people.
- 40:21I posted it on my Blue Sky.
- 40:23We posted it to Instagram.
- 40:24I sent it to you guys.
- 40:24If you didn't watch it, don't.
- 40:26It's totally fine.
- 40:28But it has everything.
- 40:30You can watch full games, can watch highlights of a game, you can watch a condensed game which is about 10 minutes of every single game in the league.
- 40:38You can look at during games, have a uh like an in-game tracker.
- 40:46It'll tell you when a timeout was called.
- 40:47It'll tell you when a substitution was coming in, when a substitution was coming out, everything, everything, everything.
- 40:53It's very detailed.
- 40:55You can click on a player at any time during a game.
- 40:57It'll tell you their stats.
- 40:59at the so far for the game there rebounds there assists there whatever whatever whatever field goal percentage everything.
- 41:05Imagine the CFL had receiver runtime stats like that you just go to the app go to your game click what's what's Jalen doing here's his like targets here's how much he's ran
- 41:16here's his
- 41:18Anything you can and then you can go and it has all the player stats for the entire league it has Then they has like league leaders it has by teams you can look at the standings For
- 41:27this year you can look at the standings from every single year you can look at the rosters for each team for every single year They've been playing so any data that you want is
- 41:36available to you free So I don't know what the CFL is doing, but they need to do something like this
- 41:43Yeah, and apparently it's possible.
- 41:45I'm guessing the CEBL is not partnered with Genius Sports and that may have a lot to do with it, but it would be fantastic to see that sort of thing come into the CFL.
- 41:59if a, you know, frankly, the CEBL is doing a good job, but they are a smaller, newer league.
- 42:04If they can do this, then there's no reason the CFL can't.
- 42:07Yeah.
- 42:09Okay.
- 42:09Yeah.
- 42:09of teams.
- 42:10Yeah, but by smaller, by smaller, didn't necessarily mean team size as much as just exposure I'm fairly sure that whether you're a fan or not, probably everybody in Canada,
- 42:21if you say the CFL, they know what you're talking about.
- 42:25That may not be true of the CEBL.
- 42:27not being actually ahead of the CBL in this.
- 42:30yeah, they certainly should be.
- 42:32there's no excuse at all.
- 42:33you're both making very valid point.
- 42:36And it's the same point uh that yeah, there's no reason that the CFL should not already have an app.
- 42:43It should have had an app five or 10 years ago, a minimum five and maybe even 10 that makes sense and just been updating and making it better and better.
- 42:53Instead you've got, as MJ says, an upstart league that has that,
- 42:58Yes, they have smaller rosters and but there are They the technology is there and they've managed to do this on a shoestring budget and make it all work and they've had a guy with
- 43:09vision running the league from day one and he has said flat out that he wants to work for the CFL he would love to work for the CFL Morelli said that last year in an interview So
- 43:20if they wanted to bring somebody on board, that's the guy we talked about it here on the show last fall
- 43:26That's the guy that they could hire or at least hire as a consultant, even if it's not a full-time gig and say, make this work for us.
- 43:34Get this, know, give us your expertise on how you've managed to make your social media and your platforms work.
- 43:42And I don't know whether it's Genius Sports or whether it's just, or whether they're just a patsy that we all, you know, like to blame, but it's, it's embarrassing still that the
- 43:52league is this far behind.
- 43:54just is.
- 43:55And yeah, you know, when again, a small upstart Canadian basketball, admittedly, I mean, if there's people that say nobody watches Canadian football, wow, no one watches Canadian
- 44:10basketball.
- 44:10And that's not a word of a lie, other than diehard locals that are watching it in those marketplaces.
- 44:17So
- 44:18And yet they've managed to come up with a television contract that gives them all those options, yet they've managed to put together a platform that gives them all this
- 44:26availability.
- 44:27It's embarrassing.
- 44:29It's just embarrassing.
- 44:31And this football league that we all love still continues to be just not in the right places.
- 44:39It's just not in the right place.
- 44:41I will tell you, our family for the second year in a row have bought season tickets for CBL over CFL in our city.
- 44:49Because it's just been such an enjoyable experience and we've had a great time.
- 44:54And you can see us on TV.
- 44:56We're always on TV.
- 44:57And we're not blurry this year.
- 44:59Yeah.
- 45:02you're there.
- 45:04leadership matters.
- 45:05So let's put a pin in that.
- 45:06We'll check back in, let's say 2030 and see where the two leagues are comparatively.
- 45:11dear friends, just go check out a CBL game, watch a condensed 10 minute game, go cheer on some local Canadian basketball talent.
- 45:20There's some really exciting, exciting players coming up in Canada.
- 45:24Well, what I'll do is I haven't had a chance to see the video that you put out earlier, but if I can, I'll get it up on YouTube as well.
- 45:32And I'll link it through to in the show note or in the show description here, if anybody wants to get through and look for that specifically.
- 45:39Cause yeah, like I said, they're in the two leagues are in different trends right now and be interesting five years out where they're at.
- 45:46it's interesting because this league is starting to attract like I went to a season ticket holder event and like almost half the team are played on G-league teams.
- 45:54So they are getting talent in.
- 45:56I mean, it's not competition.
- 45:58I don't think it's competition because they're very different.
- 46:00But this is just an example of what is possible.
- 46:03Yep, exactly.
- 46:06Now we're going to, we're going to end trying to end on, some positive and some fun notes here for the, the first season going so that we're looking happy and going forward.
- 46:17So the first thing is MJ's pulled out the tarot cards again and apparently going to do some predictions for the season.
- 46:24Yes, this is my way too early tarot projections for 2026.
- 46:29So I pulled two cards for each team.
- 46:34I pulled the vibe check for the start of the season and then I pulled a how's it going to end.
- 46:41So I'll I think for fun, I think for fun because I want to save some things for last.
- 46:45I think we're going to go through the starter, how the season is going to start for each team.
- 46:50So I'll go west to east, because that's how I like to do things.
- 46:54BC Lions, Seven of Swords, Trickery and Deception, Get Ready for Unconventional Wins, and Trick Plays.
- 47:02That sounds about right.
- 47:04Yes.
- 47:04The Elks have the King of Swords, is clarity and mental strength.
- 47:08Like have the tools if they can get over the mental block.
- 47:12The stamps.
- 47:14Queen of Wands.
- 47:15They're dynamic and authentic.
- 47:16VA is ready to get things done.
- 47:19This is it.
- 47:21The riders have the hermit, which is reflection.
- 47:24They're going to try and draw on what they did last year to get a path back to the Grey Cup.
- 47:29The Bombers have the Princess of Swords and this is making connections.
- 47:34They have a new OC who has probably a million ideas and can they all fit the pieces together.
- 47:40The Argos have the Six of Cups, which is familiarity and nostalgia.
- 47:44Chad is back, but don't get stuck in the past.
- 47:47Mm-hmm.
- 47:49Ti Cats, Knight of Swords.
- 47:51This is intense focus and this season is a business trip.
- 47:55There's no Boveralls, we're standing on business.
- 47:58Alouettes, the Queen of Swords.
- 48:00This is, I just said all class and sass.
- 48:04it's how it's gonna be.
- 48:05The Red Blacks.
- 48:07They have the Princess of Swords and this is Creativity and Free Spirit.
- 48:10Ryan is breathing in some fresh air.
- 48:13So that's how the season's gonna start.
- 48:15How's the season gonna end for some people?
- 48:18Let's find out what the tarot cards think and we can check back at the end of the year to see if they were correct.
- 48:24So the BC Lions have the Emperor and I just have this, like, it's the guy.
- 48:30So whether that's Rourke or the team,
- 48:33We'll see.
- 48:34The elks have the four of cups and this is just distracted and rumination and you just can't put a whole season together again.
- 48:42uh So status quo in Edmonton, okay.
- 48:45I and you know, I didn't want to talk about it and I won't talk about it, I will say I've listened to a couple interviews with Chris Morris the last couple weeks and this is of no
- 48:52surprise.
- 48:53The stamps have the chariot, so this is Victory and Inner Drive and there's going to be some bumps in the road, but if VA can hold it together, they'll be just fine.
- 49:05The riders have the nine of cups, is the wish card.
- 49:08this just says, wishes will come true.
- 49:11There's two people on this panel not happy about that.
- 49:17The Bombers have the Ten of Pentacles and that's legacy and tradition and it's a long term perspective.
- 49:23So this is more building.
- 49:25I don't the tarot cards I don't think are they think that this is not the year but they are building towards something really great.
- 49:32Did you see did you hear the riders one?
- 49:35I unfortunately I missed that one so say that again for me.
- 49:39just replay, I'll just retell it to you because you need to hear it.
- 49:41It's the nine of cups and it just says wishes come true.
- 49:44well that would be nice.
- 49:46That would be.
- 49:47Time for a...
- 49:49two peat at least.
- 49:51Yes.
- 49:52Alright, the Argos, hanged man, sacrifice and suspension.
- 49:57This is, they're stuck between the future and the past and need to explore alternative options.
- 50:04So are we saying at the end of the season the Argo fans are going to be ready to hang Kelly?
- 50:09Well, we'll see.
- 50:12I make no comments.
- 50:14The Ticats Wheel of Fortune.
- 50:16This is the card that the aloettes got in the gray cup.
- 50:20This is like, you can either adapt or complain.
- 50:23So there's gonna be some upheaval in Tiger Town.
- 50:26And we'll see how they deal with that.
- 50:28Alouettes is the fool.
- 50:30This is Skies the Limit.
- 50:33all class all sass but make sure you keep yourself a bit grounded or you're going to fly too high.
- 50:38ah And then the red blacks have the magician and that's Ryan.
- 50:43The ultimate power to manifest destiny.
- 50:46It's I'm the cards are looking for whether they make whether they finish in the power games or how they do them.
- 50:53It's going to be an exciting season for the red blacks.
- 50:57So that's it.
- 50:59That's that's what they're that's what's going on.
- 51:02I'd say a lot of those cards resonate with how I see reality.
- 51:06Yeah, some of it seems, some of it sounds pretty close.
- 51:10Yeah.
- 51:10So we have, so we, well, we'll, we'll see.
- 51:15That's the fun of the game.
- 51:17And that, that takes us down to our last thing.
- 51:20And they, like I said, the every break in the, first preseason game was play the season predictor.
- 51:26So we're going to, but first we're going to also, because we all have our own teams on here as far as the, the personalities on here, we're also going to play the team picker
- 51:36for the show.
- 51:37and see what it says about what team the CFL outsiders should be supporting.
- 51:43Ugh.
- 51:44Okay, if this works.
- 51:47That thing, no matter what I say, I've done that for quite a few years.
- 51:52No matter what I say, MJ, you'll love this.
- 51:55It says Hamilton every time.
- 51:57I can change every single thing three different ways to Sunday and it comes up, your team's Hamilton.
- 52:05I'm like, why?
- 52:07know, like it, yeah, okay, so let's do it.
- 52:10And if it comes up Hamilton, I'll do it.
- 52:14Okay.
- 52:15So apparently we have, I think, 10 questions to ask.
- 52:18The first one is favorite color.
- 52:21Red, blue, yellow, or green?
- 52:22For who?
- 52:23For each of us?
- 52:24Are we doing separate ones?
- 52:26Yellow!
- 52:28Are we to go red?
- 52:30And I'd go green, so that tells me...
- 52:32Yeah.
- 52:35So since we all had individual ones, I'm going to pick the color none of us had and go blue.
- 52:40Oh no, that's the worst color!
- 52:43Okay, it's game day.
- 52:46Who's coming with you?
- 52:48A big group of friends, my go-to football buddy, my family, or just me and the game?
- 52:54I always put down my go-to football buddy, because that's who goes to the games with me.
- 52:58My family goes to the game with me.
- 53:00There you go.
- 53:03Although this year, this year, this year I am taking the grandkids a couple times, so maybe the family.
- 53:09yeah, it's so nice.
- 53:10probably family too.
- 53:12So family we pick for number two.
- 53:14Okay, time to buy merch.
- 53:17What are you going to buy first?
- 53:19A team jersey, a classic hat or toque, a foam finger, or a hoodie or sweatshirt?
- 53:25I'm getting the foam finger, so you guys will have to go from there.
- 53:29Okay?
- 53:31I probably got a hat.
- 53:33Okay, so since we're again all over the board, we're taking the one we didn't pick, a jersey.
- 53:39Okay, what's your go-to stadium snack?
- 53:44Popcorn, poutine, nachos or candy?
- 53:48candy.
- 53:48Poutine did you say GT?
- 53:51Okay, I vote there too.
- 53:52So it's that not candy.
- 53:54Okay.
- 53:55you people and your gluten, so lucky.
- 53:58know.
- 53:59I know.
- 54:00Okay.
- 54:01What type of CFL fan are you here?
- 54:03I think we may all fit into the same one here.
- 54:05The diehard fan, the casual supporter, the snack MVP, or the stats guru?
- 54:11Die hard, of course.
- 54:13Yes.
- 54:14die hard.
- 54:16It's not the stats, MPP.
- 54:17We're doing this.
- 54:19Okay.
- 54:20And, just to let you know, GT, it looks like it might not be Hamilton.
- 54:24We're where we're halfway through and it says the teams that suit you best so far are the riders, the Alouettes and the Argonauts.
- 54:31So what type of football player gets you the most hyped?
- 54:36The deep touchdown pass, massive defensive hit, trick play.
- 54:42or goal winning field goal.
- 54:43Me, it's gotta be defense.
- 54:44What I like about the game, the big hit.
- 54:47Trick play.
- 54:48Trick play.
- 54:49Okay.
- 54:50Trick play it is.
- 54:51And strangely enough with your tarot about the, the lions and their trick play, the photo for trick play is Nathan doing a sort of backhanded pitch.
- 55:01Okay.
- 55:03If you were in the CFL, what position would you play?
- 55:06Quarterback, running back, wide receiver or defense?
- 55:11Defense.
- 55:12wide receiver.
- 55:13Sorry, it's defense.
- 55:16There's two of us.
- 55:18I played both sides of the ball.
- 55:20I like the defense more.
- 55:21oh What's the best part of the CFL season?
- 55:28The kickoff, Labor Day rivalries, Gray Cup playoffs, or all season long?
- 55:34All season long.
- 55:35I can go with that.
- 55:37specifically Labor Day.
- 55:40It's all I have you guys.
- 55:41all it's all I have.
- 55:42Well, then we got two of them and I'm going to go, I'm going to go with GT and say all season long.
- 55:49Okay.
- 55:50We still haven't got Hamilton back in the mix yet.
- 55:52It's now, it's now riders, Argonauts and Elks are there.
- 55:57Okay.
- 55:58How do you celebrate a win?
- 56:00With the family, fire up the grill with friends, rewatch the highlights or already thinking about the next game.
- 56:08rewatch the highlights.
- 56:10Sorry, what were the first two?
- 56:12with the family or fire up the grill with friends.
- 56:15or already thinking about the next game.
- 56:17Or re-watch the highlights.
- 56:20Just re-watch the highlights, I guess.
- 56:21This is a weird question.
- 56:23that is, that's two of us.
- 56:25two of you.
- 56:25So I don't have to put mine out there.
- 56:27I'm of course already thinking about the next game because that's just, that was anyway, what activity or experience would you want to do in the Yukon this summer?
- 56:38By the way, this is sponsored by the Yukon by the Yukon.
- 56:42Yes.
- 56:43Yes.
- 56:44Okay.
- 56:45Take the reins of your own dog sled.
- 56:47Explore the wilderness on a fat tire bike guide along groomed cross country ski trails or see the Northern lights.
- 56:56Northern Lights.
- 56:57Northern Lights.
- 56:58Okay, so it is.
- 57:00If you'd pick dog sledding, well, actually not anymore, but if it was 10 years ago, I could have arranged that for you in Manitoba though, not in the Yukon.
- 57:09And congratulations, our team is, anybody want to guess who we're cheering for this year?
- 57:14Ha
- 57:14with the Argos I'm gonna cry.
- 57:16So it's going to be Edmonton, of course.
- 57:18It's gonna be Toronto.
- 57:20MJ's got to get the tissues out.
- 57:21We are officially Toronto Argonaut fans.
- 57:24I'm good.
- 57:25Thanks.
- 57:26it pick blue at the beginning?
- 57:28It's your fault, old man!
- 57:30You picked blue!
- 57:31Hey, I went with the...
- 57:32I don't know.
- 57:34Anyway, yeah, so remember that all season.
- 57:36We're Argo fans here as officially as the podcast.
- 57:40Good thing they're number nine on the power rankings.
- 57:46I think if there was a team that none of us wanted it was sad.
- 57:49Okay, let's do our season predictor.
- 57:51We're almost done here.
- 57:52Let people go and welcome to the season predictor.
- 57:55I have read the terms and agreements.
- 57:56Yes, I have.
- 57:5710 questions on the season.
- 57:59Which position will be the first touchdown?
- 58:02Which position will score the first touchdown of the 26th season?
- 58:06A QB rush, running back, wide receiver, defense or special teams.
- 58:11And the first game of the season I'll remind you is Montreal at Hamilton.
- 58:15See you,
- 58:15I'm thinking quarterback, so you get to break the tie or...
- 58:19Last year was a QB, it was a short yardage.
- 58:23But those two, but those, but Hamilton doesn't do short yardage.
- 58:26So let's go receiver.
- 58:31Davis.
- 58:31Lawler, got Lawler, you got Lawler and Bill Pot, between those two guys, come on.
- 58:37they're gonna air it out, they're gonna air it out.
- 58:39Will a kicker make a field goal longer than 60.5 yards?
- 58:43Yes.
- 58:44I say yes.
- 58:46Will a player have more than 12 and a half sacks during the regular season?
- 58:51So it's not saying, it's will they have 13 sacks or more?
- 58:56Cause we, I'm fairly sure we don't count half sacks.
- 58:58I don't think we've done that in years.
- 59:00Who made this pretty?
- 59:02Yes, Matthew Betts.
- 59:04Okay, I was gonna say bonus points for saying who.
- 59:07Okay.
- 59:07Just remember last year, MJ, you didn't think anybody would get there.
- 59:12I still actually don't think anyone will, but we'll see.
- 59:16It's like, CUE ME!
- 59:17High-fliers this year!
- 59:21well, well, well, if I, if I let my fandom come in, I would have to say yes.
- 59:25Yes, they will.
- 59:26And it will be a yet to be determined Saskatchewan rough rider.
- 59:29Cause we have no idea who's playing the ends there.
- 59:33Okay.
- 59:34Well, Winnipeg's Brady Olivera have over or under 1,700 and
- 59:41a half rushing and receiving yards combined during the regular season.
- 59:461700.
- 59:471700...
- 59:50so SD at 1701.
- 59:53under.
- 59:54with Tommy Condell.
- 59:56Yes.
- 59:58under
- 59:59Under.
- 1:00:00Yeah, actually that's come to think of it when I rated bombers up in the power rankings, forgot Condel, as the OC well, sorry, Tommy.
- 1:00:08It's just my opinion.
- 1:00:10What do I know?
- 1:00:11Okay.
- 1:00:12Which quarterback will lead the 2026 season in passing yards?
- 1:00:17And we have four choices.
- 1:00:19So Nathan Rourke, Bo Levi Mitchell, Trevor Harris, or other.
- 1:00:24but because of garbage time.
- 1:00:27Just like last year.
- 1:00:28I'm going to go with Bo.
- 1:00:30So we're picking Bo because that's two of us.
- 1:00:32Yeah, the other there's five others to go from and it's, know, there's some good quarterbacks in there, but.
- 1:00:38Was Alexander not an option?
- 1:00:40Like, he was other?
- 1:00:43Whoa!
- 1:00:45Jeavers!
- 1:00:48Yeah, he's got to stay healthy.
- 1:00:49If he plays 18 games, he could lead the league.
- 1:00:52If he doesn't play 18 games, if that leg gives him issues, then he's not going to be close.
- 1:00:57So that's the big thing.
- 1:00:59But I think if he plays all 18, if he's healthy, he can lead the league in passing for sure.
- 1:01:05And they have the receivers to do it.
- 1:01:08See, and I would say I don't think he'll get it regardless of how healthy he is just because that's not really how they're set up.
- 1:01:16mean, you look at when he was playing well, he's not a guy that's throwing for 300, 300 to 400 yards a game.
- 1:01:23It's two to 300 the way their game is set up when defense and that.
- 1:01:27So I don't think it's going to be him this year.
- 1:01:29Again, my opinion.
- 1:01:31think if you go back to those first four games of last year when they were winning and he was slinging the rock, you go back and look at those stats, you'll be surprised at his
- 1:01:39yardage
- 1:01:39That could be.
- 1:01:41I have trouble remembering yesterday, let alone a year ago.
- 1:01:45Okay, will any team score over 40 points on Thanksgiving weekend?
- 1:01:51Okay, so what are the matchups?
- 1:01:52Well, it's like, Thai cats are ghosts.
- 1:01:55Way down here now.
- 1:01:57um
- 1:02:01Thanksgiving, which is what threw it for me.
- 1:02:03I can't even remember what the date is on Thanksgiving this year.
- 1:02:07I'm looking for a Monday game in October and that's the week.
- 1:02:11That's the Saskatchewan Montreal
- 1:02:13Here we go.
- 1:02:14Monday, October 12th.
- 1:02:16So that would have to be the one.
- 1:02:18weekend or just the Thanksgiving Monday weekday game?
- 1:02:21Okay.
- 1:02:24Edmonton at Hamilton, Ottawa at BC, Calgary at Winnipeg, and Saskatchewan at Montreal.
- 1:02:31and it's what if any team will score?
- 1:02:33Yeah, 40 points.
- 1:02:36uh...
- 1:02:36i would say yes but i think BC could score forty points against all
- 1:02:41Okay.
- 1:02:42Are we good with that?
- 1:02:43Yeah, well, two of us are.
- 1:02:45do that against Edmonton.
- 1:02:46Yeah.
- 1:02:47Okay.
- 1:02:49Will a team finish the regular season with 13 wins?
- 1:02:52Yes, I have a team finishing with 13 wins.
- 1:02:55Who's your 13-win team?
- 1:02:57Are you not saying?
- 1:02:58Well, I can tell you if you want, when we've finished, I'll give you my season predictors if you like.
- 1:03:04sure.
- 1:03:05Let's do that.
- 1:03:05We kind of get there with the end of these anyway, but so you're saying yes, how about you MJ?
- 1:03:11I always think that they're gonna like be all bunched up and then some teams just dunk it and then other teams...
- 1:03:16Yeah, yeah, there'll be a team with 13 wins.
- 1:03:19Okay, so we'll say yes.
- 1:03:20I personally don't think so.
- 1:03:22I think it's going to be a little, little too close in the, in the equality or the pairity in the league.
- 1:03:29That's the word I was looking for.
- 1:03:31Okay.
- 1:03:32So we're now down to the actual playoffs, which team will win the Eastern finals?
- 1:03:37So you have the four Eastern teams and a Western crossover.
- 1:03:40that will win.
- 1:03:41I'll take Montreal again.
- 1:03:45Yeah, I would say so too.
- 1:03:47The Western, this is where it gets questionable because we've got the five Western teams and the Eastern crossover.
- 1:03:55the Easter
- 1:03:57ah I'm taking BC.
- 1:03:58I'm going with Saskatchewan again, cause I'd have to, but.
- 1:04:02So you get the deciding vote.
- 1:04:04the tarot cards told me Riders but I...
- 1:04:07think...
- 1:04:08I think it's...
- 1:04:10You can go with somebody other than-
- 1:04:11go, I know it could be Calgary, I'll pick Calgary because it's a home playoff, it's Grey Cup
- 1:04:18Okay, so now we have to find a way to figure that one out because we're all over the board on there.
- 1:04:26So does anybody want to change their vote?
- 1:04:29Or should we just...
- 1:04:31Does anybody have a dice near them?
- 1:04:33You
- 1:04:33So if there's a team that could knock up, so we're saying the West final, who wins the West final?
- 1:04:41Okay, I will change mine to, only because I'm willing to, I will change it to.
- 1:04:49We're still in the old playoff format this year.
- 1:04:51oh
- 1:04:53Oh, this is the last year for those predictions.
- 1:04:56This is it.
- 1:04:57I'm going to go Calgary.
- 1:04:59Okay, so Calgary it is.
- 1:05:02And then we have to pick out of the nine teams and we've kind of said Calgary and Montreal, so which of those two is going to win the the Grey Cup?
- 1:05:11ah I
- 1:05:11I would take Montreal.
- 1:05:14And see, I will take Calgary if we have to go with those two simply because it's in Calgary.
- 1:05:20And I think that, I think that will take it over the top.
- 1:05:25So MJ, the final question you get to decide Montreal or Calgary.
- 1:05:30man.
- 1:05:31Do it!
- 1:05:31I'm put my belt buckle on and pick Calgary.
- 1:05:34ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
- 1:05:37VA is hoisting the trophy at the end of the season.
- 1:05:40I got to admit that would be, that would be about, yeah, that would, that would be one, a good one for the universe.
- 1:05:49Yeah, all things being equal, that would be really nice.
- 1:05:54For him, not for me personally.
- 1:05:57you were saying you were willing to talk about your predictions for the year.
- 1:06:00I don't know if either of other of us are ready, but go ahead, be brave.
- 1:06:05See, so you want my season predictors, what I said I done?
- 1:06:09Okay, so about a month, what was it, about a month, it's already been about a month since the draft, just around draft time.
- 1:06:15It was post-draft.
- 1:06:17I sat down with the schedule and I just went through the schedule each week by, each week and went, based on this, based on nothing else, just based on gut feel.
- 1:06:30where they were last year, who they've drafted and where I think their weaknesses are, who could win this game at this time of year?
- 1:06:38If they're coming off a bye, if they're at home, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
- 1:06:42Okay, that's it.
- 1:06:44And so then I went through it and I did it that way so that I could see the numbers work as well so that I wasn't, oh, you had a whole bunch of teams and your numbers don't work
- 1:06:55out right.
- 1:06:55So this is what I came and...
- 1:06:57I was very surprised at this, by the way, when I was finished.
- 1:07:01I did this unbiasedly as much as I could.
- 1:07:03I didn't do it like, you know, with an intent.
- 1:07:06I just did it based on the games that I saw in front of me.
- 1:07:10And I was surprised at the way it came out.
- 1:07:12So I had in the East, I had Hamilton in first place at 11 and 7, Montreal in second at 10 and 8.
- 1:07:23I had Ottawa in third at 6 and 12.
- 1:07:27and Toronto in last at four and 14.
- 1:07:30In the West, it's a little more interesting.
- 1:07:32I had BC in first at 13 and five.
- 1:07:35That was my 13 win team.
- 1:07:38I had, this is the weirdest, this is the one that's kind of bizarre.
- 1:07:42And this had nothing to do with our colors.
- 1:07:45It's just the way it turned out.
- 1:07:46I had Calgary in second at 11 and seven.
- 1:07:50I had Saskatchewan in third at only 10 and eight.
- 1:07:53and I had Edmonton at nine and nine and Winnipeg at six and 12.
- 1:07:58So that's my, you know, simply looking at the schedule and saying, yeah, I think that's who would win that game.
- 1:08:06Okay.
- 1:08:07Yeah.
- 1:08:08That, okay.
- 1:08:09That, that makes perfect sense.
- 1:08:10And actually I'm going to throw an, I'm calling an audible.
- 1:08:13I'm going to throw an unplanned question at, at you on this.
- 1:08:17And that's basically when we went into the playoffs last year, I would say that of the six teams in the playoffs, they were probably five that had at least a reasonable chance of
- 1:08:30getting through to the gray cup.
- 1:08:32I don't think Winnipeg the way they were playing at the time did.
- 1:08:35So that left Winnipeg and then the three non-playoff teams, Ottawa, Toronto and Edmonton.
- 1:08:42So of those four that really had no chance last year, if one of them comes up and wins the cup this year, who will it be?
- 1:08:49if one of them comes up and wins the cup.
- 1:08:52Oh, it'll be the Argos.
- 1:08:54Because they always win when they're in turmoil.
- 1:08:57Right?
- 1:08:57It's just the way it works.
- 1:08:59It's if there's six and 12 and win the cup.
- 1:09:05mean, that's what they do.
- 1:09:07And somehow, if there's one team that can do it, it'll be them.
- 1:09:12With everything else they got going on this year, if there's a team that somehow
- 1:09:16How did they manage to do it?
- 1:09:17It'll be the Argos.
- 1:09:18Because even if it's Edmonton, Edmonton you can kind of see they've built it for now, they've got it in place.
- 1:09:25They're on the up.
- 1:09:26I have them as the crossover team, by the way.
- 1:09:28They would be the, if those records that I just predicted stand, it would be Hamilton, Montreal, BC, Calgary, Saskatchewan, and Edmonton as the crossover.
- 1:09:39yeah, I could see Edmonton doing it, but.
- 1:09:41of the teams that would be the biggest surprise, it would be Toronto, somehow sneaking in there and then winning it all.
- 1:09:47I will say that my the magician card in my tarot pull it's if anyone's gonna pull something out of their hat it is Ryan and
- 1:09:56Yeah, if out of those four if anyone's gonna do it, it'll be the red, black, we'll all look silly.
- 1:10:00Okay.
- 1:10:01And yeah, and, and with me, with me, I'll, I'll go to the other side of the country.
- 1:10:07And the way that I sat on the power ranking, you're thinking it'd be Winnipeg, but no, I really think that if one of those four sort of surprises us badly, it much like you said,
- 1:10:16GT, it'll be Edmonton.
- 1:10:18And there's something about just about Fajardo and that underdog mentality and the way they were putting stuff together.
- 1:10:25If there's a surprise, I think they're the team to do it.
- 1:10:28Yeah, but see, but they're not, that won't be a surprise to me.
- 1:10:32That's the difference.
- 1:10:33The difference is that won't be a surprise.
- 1:10:36playoffs?
- 1:10:36I think they made playoffs for so long.
- 1:10:39I don't know.
- 1:10:39And it's a nine team league.
- 1:10:41So it's kind of hard to say, to pick many that would be a surprise.
- 1:10:45know, it's, of those all of them all, really, I would think that the only two that would, would seriously be a surprise would be the two Eastern ones, Toronto or Ottawa.
- 1:10:54But, if I have to pick between the two of those, I would say Ottawa just because they've made a lot of changes and look what Dinwiddie did when he first got to Toronto.
- 1:11:05So.
- 1:11:06Maybe until, until we see how the, I can't even remember the coach's name, the quarterback coach that became the Johnson is it?
- 1:11:14The, their new head coach Miller Miller.
- 1:11:16That's it.
- 1:11:17Yeah.
- 1:11:18One of the many Ken Miller's coaching in the league.
- 1:11:22Is it Ken?
- 1:11:22I can't, anyway, we should lose it.
- 1:11:24We should end this before I can't make it too much of a fool of myself.
- 1:11:27So any closing thoughts?
- 1:11:30Want to let people know where they can follow you.
- 1:11:32Well, as always, you can see me at GT Barnum on Blue Sky and that's about it.
- 1:11:38and wait a minute.
- 1:11:39I have had a couple things thanks to my helping hands here show up on Instagram and so on.
- 1:11:46those are there and apparently shorts on YouTube and stuff.
- 1:11:50So hey, thank you very much.
- 1:11:51And yeah, that's where you can find me.
- 1:11:54And next week, you may find me here again.
- 1:11:57You may not, but you may find me here again next week.
- 1:12:01something we don't know?
- 1:12:05Okay.
- 1:12:06We're posting on Instagram, season's starting up.
- 1:12:09I'm going to post the tarot cards up on Instagram and we can see if anyone has a comment about them.
- 1:12:16You can find me over on Blue Sky learning basketball and the element ending in the CBL, despairing of the Blue Jays and putting on some black and gold ready for the CFL season.
- 1:12:28Yeah, I'm over there at Sports and Plants.
- 1:12:31Okay.
- 1:12:31And I'm personally on bluesky at old man dash SAC and the podcast is now all over the place.
- 1:12:41We do still have a presence on Twitter to promote there, but we are on bluesky.
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- 1:12:54Look anywhere for the CFL outsiders, we're taking over the world.
- 1:12:57So you can find us everywhere there.
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- 1:13:20We've got...
- 1:13:2021 weeks of season and three weeks of preseason so what 24 maybe 25 shows coming up and hopefully we'll continue to entertain you until next week for GT and MJ this is Oldman
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