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Credlin | 8 May · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: Huge news today for the coalition. Just In Nampajinproprice moving
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Speaker 2: to sit with the Liberal Party as leadership.
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Speaker 3: Joscelyn continues.
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Speaker 2: Now I'll speak with the Senator in a moment about
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Speaker 2: why she's made the move and what she hopes to
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Speaker 2: do to help the Liberals rebuild.
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Speaker 3: Do not miss the interview.
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Speaker 2: All eyes on the coalition, sure, but let's not closs
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Speaker 2: over what's happening inside labor.
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Speaker 3: There's a factional.
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Speaker 2: Few that has now boiled over. Former Attorney General Mark
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Speaker 2: Drayfus said to be dumped from cabinet. More on that
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Speaker 2: coming up, plus live to the Vatican City. The second
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Speaker 2: round of the conclave voting is about to get underway
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Speaker 2: this hour.
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Speaker 3: A real possibility.
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Speaker 2: We could have a new Pope elected by around half
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Speaker 2: past six tonight, and something almost all of us can
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Speaker 2: agree on. Goodbye and good riddance to the divisive Green's
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Speaker 2: leader Adam Banned today conceding the seat of Melbourne. But
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Speaker 2: even as he's shown the door, he still doesn't get it.
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Speaker 4: We're in a climate crisis. We're in a climate crisis.
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Speaker 5: Should treat the climate crisis as if there is a
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Speaker 5: war on.
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Speaker 2: But first it will be a very different Liberal Party,
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Speaker 2: clearly depending on who emerges as the next leader. Already
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Speaker 2: there are allowed voices demanding that the Liberal Party quotas
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Speaker 2: for women, even though picking candidates and the basis of
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Speaker 2: gender not merit is profoundly illiberal.
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Speaker 6: I'm not calling for quotas. I'm demanding quotas at this point.
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Speaker 6: I'm channeling some of the entitlement of we see of
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Speaker 6: some of our liberal males who consistently ignore what needs
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Speaker 6: to occur for this party to evolve.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 2: Now too, there are equally loud voices demanding that the
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party are banned in its commitment to nuclear power,
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Speaker 2: and worse, that it must embrace Labour's renewables only energy policy.
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Speaker 2: Consider the ads now playing on high rotation here on Sky,
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Speaker 2: sponsored by a group calling itself Liberals against Nuclear.
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Speaker 8: Sadly, it was a disappointing election. Multiple polls have shown
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Speaker 8: it was nuclear policy that stopped two to three percent
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Speaker 8: of voters supporting the coalition. Candidates that could have one
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Speaker 8: narrowly didn't. It's time for the party to reject this
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Speaker 8: nuclear policy and return to core Liberal values of fiscal
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Speaker 8: responsibility and small government.
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Speaker 3: Al verise by people chief.
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Speaker 1: The Liberals Against Nuclear resuilt.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: Slick ads like that don't come cheap and they're hard
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Speaker 2: to put together in a hurry. The fact that they've
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Speaker 2: appeared within days of the election defeat shows a degree
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Speaker 2: of organization and funding obviously from Big Wind and Big Solo,
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Speaker 2: that should not be underestimated. Here's some of the key
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Speaker 2: quotes supporting Liberals against Nuclear from their website. Turnbull, who's
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Speaker 2: been doing his best to sabotage Liberal candidates and Liberal
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Speaker 2: governments ever since he was ejected from the Prime ministership.
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Speaker 2: While he's there as Liberal leader, never forget twice he
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Speaker 2: tried to make the party embrace a labor position on
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Speaker 2: energy and emissions, and his son has been a big
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Speaker 2: donor too to the Teals. But also there on the
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Speaker 2: screen was Matt Kean as Treasurer and Energy Minister. Keen
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Speaker 2: was the architect to the former New South Whale's government
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Speaker 2: stance on emissions that was even more hardline than Federal
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Speaker 2: Labour even before he left the parliament. While Keene had
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Speaker 2: accepted Chris Bowen's offer to be the head of the
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Speaker 2: government's Climate change Authority at the same time too, though
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Speaker 2: he was also working for a mob, And he's working
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Speaker 2: for a mob that's hoping to make millions of dollars
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Speaker 2: out of renewables on the issue of climate and renewable energy,
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Speaker 2: all the rents seeking that's going on these two terms
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Speaker 2: Coats that are on a unity ticket with Labour and
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Speaker 2: the Green So please say this for what it is,
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Speaker 2: not an attempt to help the Liberal Party, but to
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Speaker 2: change the Liberal Party to make it on this issue
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Speaker 2: at least indistinguishable from Labor, thus safeguarding the billions and
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Speaker 2: subsidies flowing to the renewable energy industry. Key here too
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Speaker 2: is one of the sector's biggest lobbyists. His name is
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Speaker 2: Michael Photius, the shadow godfather who's long been the factional
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Speaker 2: string puller for the Moderates in the New South Wales LIBS.
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Speaker 2: And there's no doubt whose Photius candidate is in this
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Speaker 2: live leadership race. His candidate is Susan Lee, whose pre
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Speaker 2: selection the faction stepped in to save before the twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty two election. Now I'm sure Susan's our own person.
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Speaker 2: I know her and I like her, Yet it's her
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Speaker 2: allies that are demanding that the Lives drop their support
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Speaker 2: for nuclear energy and to be taken seriously. So they
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Speaker 2: say the Libs now must have a woman as leaders,
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Speaker 2: even though let's not forget Labour picked up a big
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Speaker 2: whack of the female vote on Saturday nine and it's
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Speaker 2: led by two men. And the fact too that the
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Speaker 2: Liberals they have had a deputy as a female in
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Speaker 2: Lee and that didn't save them. If promoted to the
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Speaker 2: chop job, Susan Lee will come under immense pressure from
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Speaker 2: those moderate kingmakers to me too Labour's energy policy on
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Speaker 2: the spurious grounds that we need to end the climate wars,
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Speaker 2: we need to end the energy wars, even though the
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party is won every election where it's made climate
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Speaker 2: and energy and economic issue rather than a moral one.
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Speaker 2: Close in twenty ten, one, in twenty thirteen and of
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Speaker 2: course twenty nineteen. If the election just gone after courageously
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Speaker 2: putting nuclear on the table or Peter Dutton failed to
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Speaker 2: fight for it on energy, it's not poor policy but
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Speaker 2: poor politics that's bought the Libs undone What madness would
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Speaker 2: it be for the Libs to embrace Labour's energy to
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Speaker 2: train wreck at the very time we know less than
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Speaker 2: a person of British Labor Prime Minister's standing in Tony
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Speaker 2: Blair has declared that net zero.
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Speaker 3: Is doomed to fail.
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Speaker 2: At the very same time left wing parties reneurable they're
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Speaker 2: recommitting to nuclear power. Here in Australia, we're scared of
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Speaker 2: our own shadow Labour's energy policy. It simply will not work.
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Speaker 2: This is about physics and engineering reality. We simply can't
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Speaker 2: move from sixty percent reliance on cold today to eighty
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Speaker 2: two percent renewables in just five years time. It's physically impossible,
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Speaker 2: it's simply unaffordable and it will kill our industry dead flat.
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Speaker 2: Yet if it leaves me to Labour's energy policy, they
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Speaker 2: will end up then making excuses for its looming failure.
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Speaker 3: Now, if you think things look.
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Speaker 2: Grim now for the Liberals supporting Labour's push to de
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Speaker 2: industrialize our country would make things even worse. And just
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Speaker 2: to underscore how crazy things have become of this country,
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Speaker 2: this report today about the Union's holding taxpayers to ransom
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Speaker 2: on Malcolm Turnbull's favorite Boondo w all, a billion dollar
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Speaker 2: baby snowy two point zero, the project a massive White
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Speaker 2: Elephant was supposed to cost two billion dollars in take
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Speaker 2: five years. Well it will now cost some twelve billion
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Speaker 2: dollars in rising and take.
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Speaker 3: At least a decade. That's not what the story is about. Today.
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Speaker 2: In the Australian the unions were told are planning strike action,
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Speaker 2: demanding a six percent annual pay rise, a five dollars
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Speaker 2: an hour productivity allowance, a new one hundred and forty
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Speaker 2: dollars a day camp allowance, a thirty dollars a week
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Speaker 2: mobile phone allowance, sick leave paid out once the job ends.
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Speaker 2: Right now, that's just annual le but they would sick
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Speaker 2: leave too, and double time for working in the rain,
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Speaker 2: even though when it's up the top most of these
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Speaker 2: workers are underground. Meaning if you out of all of this,
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Speaker 2: these new demands from the unions, these tunnel workers will
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Speaker 2: end up earning over three hundred thousand dollars a year.
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Speaker 3: And this is your money.
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Speaker 2: This is a taxpayer funded project, and that's more than
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Speaker 2: we pay specialist doctors in our public hospitals. Welcome to
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Speaker 2: elbow world, where a few people get more full less
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Speaker 2: and the rest of us are struggling to pay for
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Speaker 2: labour's ideological obsessions, busy show as I said, send an
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Speaker 2: ampersy for price coming out. Let's get the headlines now.
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Speaker 2: Though skyn News political reporter Ribbon.
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Speaker 9: Spargo, Labor MPs will meet in Canberra tomorrow ahead of
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Speaker 9: a cabinet reshuffle. According to reports, there is a push
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Speaker 9: to Act's Attorney General Mark Dreyfus from the ministry. The
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Speaker 9: composition will be influenced by the states and factions represented
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Speaker 9: within the expanded caucus. Speaking to sky News, Anthony Albernesi
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Speaker 9: was setting the tone for the reshuffle showdown.
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Speaker 10: Government brings with it responsibility and no individual is greater
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Speaker 10: than the collective and that includes myself.
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Speaker 9: Ministers could be sworn in as early as Tuesday. The
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister is unleashing on the Greens, pinally on the
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Speaker 9: party after its disastrous result. Members experienced a bruising defeat
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Speaker 9: in the lower House. It will hold just one seat
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Speaker 9: during the next term of parliament.
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Speaker 10: Pretty hard to see that they have a reason for
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Speaker 10: any joy rising out of this election.
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Speaker 11: You know.
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Speaker 10: The Grange Political Party I think lost their way.
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Speaker 9: Adam Bant has stepped down as the party's leader. Beyond Australia,
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Speaker 9: Anthony Abernesi is working to strengthen relationships, holding phone calls
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Speaker 9: with the King and Prime Ministers of Japan, Singapore and
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Speaker 9: Solomon Islands. The Prime Minister is prioritizing neighbors.
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Speaker 10: I'll be talking with a slur Vnderland as well of
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Speaker 10: the European Union. That's an important relationship for us, as
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Speaker 10: well as the relationship in the region.
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Speaker 3: We'll get that deal done. You reckon, you're well, well.
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Speaker 10: We'll wait and see.
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Speaker 9: Anthony Albernezi will visit Indonesia next week.
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Speaker 2: All right, the AUC count slowing down, but there are
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Speaker 2: still seats outstanding. So let's get the latest now from
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Speaker 2: chief election adalyst Tom Connell.
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Speaker 5: The Greens began this campaign holding onto four Lower House seats.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday we call they were losing the seat of Melbourne.
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Speaker 5: Today though, they are going to hold the seat of Ryan,
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Speaker 5: so they end up on one seat.
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Speaker 4: That won't get any more than that.
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Speaker 5: The other big watch will be the climate two hundred
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Speaker 5: Back to candidates. They're on four right now, there's still
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Speaker 5: a chance that they can get to six and even seven.
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Speaker 5: Let's look at some of those close contests and what's
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Speaker 5: happening right now.
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Speaker 4: Bean has been the surprise. This is a seat in Cambri.
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Speaker 5: You can see here preferences are helping Jesse Price get
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Speaker 5: very close and she's even hit the lead against Labour's
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Speaker 5: David Smith. The vote to come here is absent. The
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Speaker 5: expectation is that will help Jesse Price. We've never had
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Speaker 5: this type of contest before. Once we see it flying,
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Speaker 5: we'd say she'll extend her lead. But it's only very
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Speaker 5: narrow now one hundred and ninety five votes, so once
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Speaker 5: that type of vote can come.
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Speaker 4: In, we'll feel confident about calling that seat.
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Speaker 5: The other one is Bradfield, in which the Teal Independent
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Speaker 5: is in the running here, nicolete Buller. She ran last time,
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Speaker 5: so how's it going this time again? It's very close
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Speaker 5: right now. This time we have the Liberal Party in
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Speaker 5: the lead, very narrowly by just under two hundred votes.
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Speaker 5: So whomever wins the absent vote, which is the main
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Speaker 5: vote still to come, we'll win this seat.
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Speaker 4: It could be very close.
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Speaker 5: We're projecting right now the Liberal Party would likely stay ahead,
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Speaker 5: but only by summer hundred and sixty votes.
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Speaker 4: So if the preferences change or the flow change to
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Speaker 4: what we expect and the absent vote, that could be
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Speaker 4: a different result. The really close.
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Speaker 5: One is Cou Yong has had the most fascinating development
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Speaker 5: because we've had votes here that have changed. They do
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Speaker 5: a recounter votes constantly. They found three hundred extra votes
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Speaker 5: for Monique Ryan. That means her lead is proving harder
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Speaker 5: to run down. For Amelia Hamer, it's still six hundred
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Speaker 5: votes and the postal flow is weakening.
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Speaker 4: For Amelia Hamer. What we're predicting now is she will not.
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Speaker 5: Actually get back ahead after postal votes, and that would
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Speaker 5: mean if absent votes flow the same as last time,
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Speaker 5: you'd see Monique Ryan win, all be close by.
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Speaker 4: About four hundred votes.
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Speaker 5: We would want to see that absent vote come in
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Speaker 5: in case there's a surprise. But the fact Amelia Hamer
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Speaker 5: is unlikely to get ahead on postal votes could spell
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Speaker 5: the end for her in her chances in Koyo.
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Speaker 3: Very very tired, isn't it right?
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Speaker 2: Let's get across these issues and plenty more joining me
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Speaker 2: now our national affairs editor at the Daily Telegraph, of course,
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Speaker 2: our Sky News host James Morrow and media commentator Carolie
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Speaker 2: Katz and Bardas.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: Let's start with what the new look ministry might resemble tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: There were reports earlier today that the Attorney General Mark Dreyfus,
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Speaker 2: he's of the Victorian Right, could be dumped for another MP.
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Speaker 2: We're talking here, possibly of the Hawk MP Sam Ray.
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Speaker 2: Now I am told that vote has occurred, that decision
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Speaker 2: has been made. This will mean that the Attorney General
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Speaker 2: could potentially be in the art of ministry or dumped completely.
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Speaker 3: But he will not be in cabinet. He will not
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Speaker 3: be the AG.
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Speaker 2: The PM was asked about this today but he remained
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Speaker 2: tight lipped.
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Speaker 10: There's a range of positions to be filled. I'm confident
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Speaker 10: that whoever fills those positions, we will have an extraordinary
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Speaker 10: team going forward.
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Speaker 2: Now I tell you what James is, the thought of
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Speaker 2: character who could well quit in a huff. He may
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Speaker 2: have to be bought off with an ambassadorship or something.
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Speaker 2: I had always heard he wanted an appointment to the
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Speaker 2: High Court, but he's reached that age threshold where he
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Speaker 2: would not get that. But it will be interesting to
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Speaker 2: see how the PM manages that. The colleagues and bruised
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Speaker 2: a guys. Of course, he doesn't get to choose his
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Speaker 2: ministry unlike a liberal leader. He just can allocate portfolios.
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Speaker 2: The factions the boys in the back room they have
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Speaker 2: cut the deals.
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Speaker 1: Well, isn't it just absolutely fascinating Peter to see the
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Speaker 1: complete ruthlessness of the Labor party in action. There was
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Speaker 1: another clip in one of the earlier packages you played
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Speaker 1: there where Anthony Albinez and the Prime Minister said, you know,
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Speaker 1: no one is bigger than the collective. No one is
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Speaker 1: bigger than the collective. And of course that's what you
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Speaker 1: get out of the Left and we're all just cogs
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Speaker 1: in this machine, including Mark Gravest. But also i'm told
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Speaker 1: at Housick, the Industry's Minister is also another one for
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Speaker 1: the high jump in all of this. Now, it's fascinating
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Speaker 1: to me here because not only does it show the ruthlessness,
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Speaker 1: but also it shows how Labor is kind of, in
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Speaker 1: a funny paradoxical way, a victim of their own success.
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Speaker 1: They brought in all of these new numbers here. They've
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Speaker 1: done so well, they've advanced up so far down the
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Speaker 1: field that the spoils are actually order to divide now
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Speaker 1: that they've got to sit down and create a new ministry.
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Speaker 1: So look, it's really interesting to watch this, but I
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Speaker 1: think everybody out there needs to understand this is how
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Speaker 1: the Labor Party behaves. It is always, always, always of
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Speaker 1: power and not the personalities necessarily.
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Speaker 2: I will remind people they often eat their own in
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Speaker 2: a way you rarely see in politics, and it's interesting too.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to watch carefully who gets what
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Speaker 2: portfolio because as I said, that's decided by the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 2: and it gives you a very good indication. You know,
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Speaker 2: if he puts a talented person in the inn a portfolio,
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Speaker 2: that's where he wants to go hard over this term.
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Speaker 2: If he puts a plotter in there, and the plotters
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Speaker 2: are obviously chosen by their factions, if he puts a
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Speaker 2: plotter in a portfolio, that says to me that that's
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Speaker 2: going to be sort of on the back burner for
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Speaker 2: this term of parliament. So one of those key ones
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Speaker 2: I want to know is who will get energy we
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Speaker 2: saw today. If I can kirelate comments from Joel Fit's
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Speaker 2: given he is really pushing back.
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Speaker 3: Against the left.
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Speaker 2: That's called Lean Labor Environmental Action Network who want the
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Speaker 2: twenty five sorry that twenty thirty five target to go
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Speaker 2: up as high as seventy percent in terms of emissions reduction.
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Speaker 3: This is where I will watch very.
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Speaker 2: Closely when the p announces it as we suspect potentially Sunday.
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Speaker 7: Well, it is certainly because the problem is, you know,
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Speaker 7: Joel fitsgiven, he's a very very smart individual, and he
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Speaker 7: is actually using a lot of economics common sense in
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Speaker 7: saying that, Okay, they might have won the election, but
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Speaker 7: it's not a license to go and actually wreck Australia's
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Speaker 7: economic credentials. This environmentalism, it's it's far too far over
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Speaker 7: to the left. The other problem is it's also a
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Speaker 7: wake up call for Australians. You vote labor, you get labor.
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Speaker 7: They've never made a they've never hidden with the Labor
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Speaker 7: Environmental Action Network, the LEAN, They've never hidden that this
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Speaker 7: is what they want to do. But at the end
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Speaker 7: of the day, in trying to get in trying to
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Speaker 7: get the emissions down, they're losing sight of the fact
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Speaker 7: that you know, people's livelihoods, our standard of living.
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Speaker 3: Is going right down now. On the other.
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Speaker 7: Side, very sadly, the Liberals didn't they didn't push this
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Speaker 7: enough in the election campaign, they didn't campaign on it.
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Speaker 7: But you know, at least Joe, if it's given, it's
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Speaker 7: actually speaking some sense that we can't afford to do this.
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Speaker 7: Australia can't afford to do this, and whether people like
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Speaker 7: it or not, the whole nuclear question that that is
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Speaker 7: one way, that is one way to get to net
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Speaker 7: zero very quickly, to be able to do the emissions target.
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Speaker 7: But again that's gone down the river now and it
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Speaker 7: is a real worry because this country will just be destroyed.
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Speaker 7: We've got another three years of labor to go and
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Speaker 7: I just really hope that the liberals, the liberals prosecute
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Speaker 7: their case and focus on the next three years rather
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Speaker 7: than rather than letting Lean just run roughshod over everything.
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Speaker 2: There's not many bright lights in a dismal weekend result
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Speaker 2: for the center, right, James, But I'll tell you the
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Speaker 2: demise of Adam band it's about as good as it gets.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, it's amazing just to see him go down
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Speaker 1: in flames. And it's so fascinating to me because you know,
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Speaker 1: this is what happens when the Greens have moved away
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Speaker 1: from their core business of being about the environment to
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Speaker 1: being all about you know, basically you know, hamas on
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Speaker 1: the Era, supporting Gaza, supporting all of these Palestinian demonstrations
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Speaker 1: in our capital cities, everybody said, including in Melbourne, which
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Speaker 1: as you know it's pretty left wing, said they were
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Speaker 1: sick of it. Now, Adam Bank gave this speech today,
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Speaker 1: this press conference, without any questions. You know, how's that
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Speaker 1: for your openness and transparency? And he went on for
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Speaker 1: what twenty twenty five minutes in the most self indulgent
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Speaker 1: fashioned Peter, I've never seen anything like it, maybe not
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Speaker 1: since the days of Tony Windsor and Rob oakshot back
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Speaker 1: in twenty ten, you know, just going on blaming everybody,
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Speaker 1: including almost his own voters, who he said didn't really
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Speaker 1: understand the prefer actual voting system. He even said there
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Speaker 1: was a Trump effect that heard of and tell me
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Speaker 1: how that works on the Greens. It was just an
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Speaker 1: extraordinary saying. I think it's one of those things here,
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Speaker 1: Adam Band's departure from the public stage. It has brought
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Speaker 1: Labor and the coalition together. Everybody I know on both
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Speaker 1: sides of politics has been high fiving about this result.
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Speaker 3: Peter, you are not wrong.
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Speaker 2: But even with this loss, and it's not just this one, obviously,
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Speaker 2: Max Channeler, Maatha and others have gone, they still don't
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Speaker 2: get it. This was the Deputy Leader Senate later marine
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Speaker 2: Ferouki today, have a listen.
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Speaker 11: I mean, this is a narrative around gaza that some
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Speaker 11: would like to push to suit their own agenda, but
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Speaker 11: the numbers tell the real story. In multicultural and migrant
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Speaker 11: communities across the country where this was an issue, there
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Speaker 11: are Boots where the Greens have one swings of over
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Speaker 11: twenty percent, and that includes Boots in Wills and Fraser
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Speaker 11: in Victoria. In Western and Southwestern could mean their self Wills.
20:03
Speaker 2: Her point Karaly is that she regards gaza as one
20:07
Speaker 2: of the big issues of the campaign. She thinks that
20:09
Speaker 2: gaza helped them, but if you don't, if you look
20:13
Speaker 2: at the results, Gaza did not help them. Australians rejected,
20:17
Speaker 2: whether the Australians who vote Labor or Australians who vote
20:20
Speaker 2: the Coalition, they rejected the Greens and their anti Semitism.
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Speaker 7: Well, they certainly did, and I mean I guess, I
20:27
Speaker 7: guess they shot themselves in the foot. I mean, the
20:29
Speaker 7: Australian public actually did listen and saw what a scary
20:33
Speaker 7: and dangerous movement the Greens have actually become, and actually
20:36
Speaker 7: took the time and they actually voted, voted, and that's
20:40
Speaker 7: why the three Greens have actually lost lost their seats
20:43
Speaker 7: and they were embarking on incredibly dangerous, divisive policies that
20:48
Speaker 7: the Australian public, you know that they saw through it,
20:52
Speaker 7: and I'm glad that they actually did. And I think
20:54
Speaker 7: it's a good thing for Australia that, you know, the
20:56
Speaker 7: three Greens have gone, because they're not the Greens that
21:00
Speaker 7: they were in the eighties and the nineties, and it's
21:02
Speaker 7: incredibly dangerous. They have fueled a lot of the anti
21:05
Speaker 7: Semitism in Australia.
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Speaker 3: They are very one eyed.
21:09
Speaker 7: They're not able to look objectively as to what their
21:11
Speaker 7: policies have done and what their policies would have done
21:14
Speaker 7: for Australia. So I think Australians do have to be
21:16
Speaker 7: commended for not voting for the Greens. And you know,
21:20
Speaker 7: while they might hold the balance, you know, they've got
21:22
Speaker 7: their members in the Senate. Let's just see what ends
21:25
Speaker 7: up happening. But I do think that Marine Feruki needs
21:27
Speaker 7: to have a good hard look to see that, you know,
21:30
Speaker 7: this is actually Australia and the level of multiculturalism, the
21:35
Speaker 7: welcoming nature that we have in this country to allow
21:38
Speaker 7: people to come in. I mean that is the hallmark
21:41
Speaker 7: of Australia.
21:42
Speaker 12: It really is.
21:42
Speaker 7: And I think the general public in Australia just got
21:45
Speaker 7: fed up and just rejected the Greens and good on
21:48
Speaker 7: them for doing it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it will be interesting to see who assumes the
21:51
Speaker 2: leadership as we go forward with the Greens. You can
21:54
Speaker 2: see there, we've got pictures of the Vatican. We are
21:57
Speaker 2: assuming sometime around six thirty nine, steady sharp, there will
22:01
Speaker 2: be another vote. And obviously, if it's black smoke, we
22:03
Speaker 2: do not have a pope. If it is white smoke,
22:05
Speaker 2: we do. We'll prospotheatic in the moment.
22:08
Speaker 3: But James, just quickly. Everything's going on now.
22:11
Speaker 2: In terms of the jostling between Susan Lee and Angus Taylor.
22:15
Speaker 2: Reports today that Susan Lee is already offering jobs right
22:19
Speaker 2: across the board. One thing that struck me as very bizarre,
22:22
Speaker 2: and I've heard this from a number of people. Apparently
22:25
Speaker 2: she has offered Andrew Hasty's job as the shadow Defense
22:29
Speaker 2: Minister to the very controversial New South Wales MP Alex Hawk.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, and I mean if that's true. Look,
22:39
Speaker 1: there've already been reports out here that Susan Lee was
22:42
Speaker 1: running a very transactional campaign doing anything that she could,
22:45
Speaker 1: promising whatever he had to do to try and get
22:47
Speaker 1: across the line. And frankly, up until today it looked
22:51
Speaker 1: like that was working. But I'll tell you what now,
22:54
Speaker 1: this whole movement of Just Enterprise into the Liberal party room,
22:58
Speaker 1: which Sinats are absent spewing about right now, totally changes
23:03
Speaker 1: the equation because suddenly, if you had a tailor just
23:07
Speaker 1: in the Price campaign for that leadership, Just Enterprise brings
23:11
Speaker 1: an awful lot of heft to that ticket, and I
23:14
Speaker 1: think that that would change the equation in there. As
23:16
Speaker 1: far as Susan Lay promising Andrew Hasty, who is we
23:21
Speaker 1: all know, one of the most qualified people in that
23:23
Speaker 1: parliament to speak about defense issues, if not, you know,
23:26
Speaker 1: the most qualified to give that away to Alex Hawk,
23:30
Speaker 1: I think would just be an active sheer madness. The
23:33
Speaker 1: only consolation prize if that happened and if she became
23:35
Speaker 1: leader would be the fact that she would not be
23:37
Speaker 1: the one who winds up taking the coalition the Liberals
23:40
Speaker 1: to the next election.
23:45
Speaker 3: All right, well, we'll watch that closely. With that certainly
23:47
Speaker 3: the room around tonight. Thank you both for your time.
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Speaker 2: I'll leave it there and I've just been informed at
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Speaker 2: the Vatican that voting is now underway.
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Speaker 3: We should have a result very shortly. Let's cross now
23:58
Speaker 3: to Rome.
23:59
Speaker 2: We're joined by News European correspondent Sophie Ellsworth. You are there, Sophie,
24:05
Speaker 2: for the conclave. I'm gonna ask you some questions in
24:08
Speaker 2: relation to British politics.
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Speaker 3: I'm having a look there.
24:11
Speaker 2: You're right there in front of Saint Peter's Square. Black
24:15
Speaker 2: smoke we saw all come up the first voting round
24:18
Speaker 2: on the first day of the conclave. We still don't
24:20
Speaker 2: know a decision on the second vote. We're watching that imminently.
24:23
Speaker 2: But what's the mood there? You're in a very famous
24:27
Speaker 2: place in Rome. What's the mood like amongst the faithful?
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Speaker 13: Well, Peter, it's a great being here.
24:37
Speaker 3: It's just so much excitement.
24:38
Speaker 13: On the ground. Last night the crowds were mammoth here.
24:42
Speaker 13: Saint Peter's Square was chocol block. There are over forty
24:45
Speaker 13: thousand people here waiting to see that smoke emit from
24:49
Speaker 13: the chimney of the Sistine Chapel. So they're now in
24:52
Speaker 13: voting again this morning. As you mentioned, there's two rounds
24:55
Speaker 13: of voting scheduled for this morning and if there's no
25:00
Speaker 13: result there. Then they go in for another two rounds
25:03
Speaker 13: this afternoon. So the crowds are really building around Vatican City.
25:07
Speaker 13: There's so many tourists on the ground, worshipers and pilgrims
25:11
Speaker 13: flooding in here because the excitement is really building as
25:15
Speaker 13: we do anxiously await the release of that white smoke.
25:22
Speaker 2: I want to show my view as a shot of
25:23
Speaker 2: the front runners. I picked it up the other night
25:27
Speaker 2: and I didn't look at it and think how uncanny
25:30
Speaker 2: it is. The last five of those front running cardinals there,
25:34
Speaker 2: they always look like the same individual lifelot. It was
25:37
Speaker 2: a repetition. Now, what can you tell us about some
25:39
Speaker 2: of the favorites.
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Speaker 13: So there's a couple that keep getting named that are
25:46
Speaker 13: the favorites. That's the former Vatican Secretary Petro Paralon, he's
25:51
Speaker 13: one of the front runners. And also Filipino Cardinal Lewis Tagley,
25:56
Speaker 13: he's another favorite. But Peter, we have to remind you
26:00
Speaker 13: there's one hundred and thirty three cardinals inside voting. There's
26:04
Speaker 13: a very wide field. They're from seventy countries, so it's
26:08
Speaker 13: the most geographically diverse makeup of a conclave that the
26:13
Speaker 13: Vatican has seen in its history. So there's some experts
26:17
Speaker 13: here on the ground who are telling me they think
26:19
Speaker 13: the voting could even run into next week. But it's
26:23
Speaker 13: really anyone's guest because the field is so wide. But
26:27
Speaker 13: a lot of them, Peter, they don't know each other,
26:29
Speaker 13: they've never met, they don't know their names. They're wearing
26:31
Speaker 13: name badges in there to identify themselves. So it's very
26:36
Speaker 13: much they're meeting each other for the first time, which
26:38
Speaker 13: might also prove a challenge to get that majority vote
26:42
Speaker 13: that they need to appoint a new pope.
26:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating.
26:49
Speaker 2: We'll leave that election and we'll go to one you've
26:51
Speaker 2: just come from. I know you've been knee deep in
26:53
Speaker 2: the British local government elections in recent times, and look
26:57
Speaker 2: that extraordinary result from Reform UK and an endorsement really
27:01
Speaker 2: of Nigel Farage.
27:03
Speaker 3: They have taken.
27:03
Speaker 2: Control of ten local councils, they've won two mayoral races,
27:07
Speaker 2: and they have added a fifth MP to their ranks
27:10
Speaker 2: in the Commons. Give us a sense of what's been
27:13
Speaker 2: playing out in British politics, because this is sure. They
27:16
Speaker 2: got to put not just pressure on the Conservative but
27:19
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on Labor.
27:25
Speaker 13: Well, Peter, as you know, you watch this extremely closely.
27:28
Speaker 13: All the momentum is with Reform UK and Nigel Farage.
27:31
Speaker 3: He's in the.
27:32
Speaker 13: Media every day. He has more oxygen in the media,
27:36
Speaker 13: I would say than the government. He is making headlines
27:39
Speaker 13: every day. He's got the momentum behind him. There's a
27:42
Speaker 13: lot of people in Britain who are very angry.
27:45
Speaker 3: With the Conservatives.
27:46
Speaker 13: They've lost faith in the Conservatives and they're looking for
27:49
Speaker 13: alternative party. And a lot of voters are angry with
27:52
Speaker 13: the Keirs Sarma's labor government. He's had a shoka of
27:55
Speaker 13: his first almost twelve months in office, so they're looking
27:59
Speaker 13: for an alternate and Nigel Ferrage really speaks a lot
28:02
Speaker 13: of people's languages in terms of his messaging. His messaging
28:06
Speaker 13: is simple. He said things like if our legal migrants come,
28:10
Speaker 13: we're kicking them out. Basic strategies that he's trying to
28:14
Speaker 13: push that people are listening to and moving towards him. So, Peter,
28:18
Speaker 13: it's four years away till the next general election. It's
28:20
Speaker 13: a long time, but in the polls he's ahead in
28:24
Speaker 13: some of them as the favorite to be the next
28:26
Speaker 13: prime minister in the UK. So this is a fascinating
28:29
Speaker 13: space to.
28:30
Speaker 2: Watch and look, as we learned on the weekend, Sophie,
28:34
Speaker 2: from an opposition, you've got to do the work from
28:36
Speaker 2: day one. So four years sounds like a long time,
28:40
Speaker 2: but he's got to come up with an entire a
28:42
Speaker 2: whole of government agenda and field candidates in dozens and
28:46
Speaker 2: dozens of seats, and perhaps he didn't have there at
28:49
Speaker 2: the last election. Well, enjoy Rome. You're there for a
28:52
Speaker 2: moment in history, as I say, and we'll watch it
28:53
Speaker 2: all very closely. Thank you, Sophie. All right, quick break.
28:56
Speaker 2: After the break, we'll talk to just sent and Nampachen proprice.
28:58
Speaker 2: Is that huge new today she's moving to the Liberal
29:02
Speaker 2: party room. Now that's a very interesting thing that can happen.
29:05
Speaker 2: She's from the NT. I'll explain how that works in
29:07
Speaker 2: a moment, plus what this might mean.
29:10
Speaker 3: For the Liberal leadership race.
29:16
Speaker 2: Blockerback still the calm, I'll speak with a woman who
29:18
Speaker 2: organized a massive protest against the Greens and New South
29:21
Speaker 2: Wales the so called health legislation that would see religious
29:25
Speaker 2: freedom stripped from healthcare workers and an assault on freedom
29:29
Speaker 2: of conscience. But out of the speculation about the future
29:32
Speaker 2: of my next guest just into Nambajimpi. Price has been
29:36
Speaker 2: a prominent and fierce Coalition campaigner, not just to help
29:40
Speaker 2: defeat Labour's voice to Parliament, but also to elevate the
29:43
Speaker 2: issues of marginalized Australians across the country. Now, in a
29:47
Speaker 2: formal sense, Navaghip Prize is a representative of the Northern
29:50
Speaker 2: Territories Country Liberal Party the CLP. They have a tradition
29:56
Speaker 2: of allowing MPs to sit in either the National's Party
29:59
Speaker 2: Room or the Liberals Party Room, depending on the lower
30:02
Speaker 2: House seek there in or their position on the Cenate ticket.
30:06
Speaker 2: Now today's Nambuti Price is set with the Nationals, but
30:09
Speaker 2: in News today that sends shock waves around Canberra she's
30:13
Speaker 2: joining the Liberal Party Room where she intends to play
30:16
Speaker 2: a very prominent role in the rebuild of the coalition.
30:20
Speaker 2: And I'm delighted to say just in the Nambajipa Price
30:23
Speaker 2: joins me.
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Speaker 3: Now, Senator, thank you for your time.
30:25
Speaker 2: I tell you what you have made headlines across the
30:29
Speaker 2: country and I think made a lot of Coalition supporters
30:31
Speaker 2: across the country hopeful for the future in a way
30:34
Speaker 2: we haven't been for many many days. Why the shift
30:38
Speaker 2: and why now, well.
30:43
Speaker 14: I guess, Peter, this is not a decision that I've
30:46
Speaker 14: come to lightly at all.
30:49
Speaker 12: It is a decision that I've thought a lot about.
30:52
Speaker 14: And firstly, I guess I've always felt like the Liberal
30:56
Speaker 14: Party room is my natural home. Given you know, the
31:00
Speaker 14: Liberal Party is the Freedom Party, the party of responsibility. Now,
31:06
Speaker 14: given the current circumstances, I think now more than ever,
31:10
Speaker 14: when its strong people within the.
31:12
Speaker 12: Liberal Party, we need to be able to rebuild.
31:15
Speaker 14: We need to ensure that we don't lose support broad
31:20
Speaker 14: support as part of a wider coalition. I mean, ultimately
31:24
Speaker 14: it is about the strength of the coalition going forward,
31:28
Speaker 14: and I feel like I would be best placed, as
31:30
Speaker 14: someone who is ultimately a fighter, which is what I've
31:33
Speaker 14: said before, to support the coalition from the Liberal Party
31:39
Speaker 14: room as a position of strength.
31:44
Speaker 2: Your colleague James Patterson's come out pretty quickly this afternoon.
31:48
Speaker 2: He has put up a post he says, welcome home
31:52
Speaker 2: to Center. Now, I know that's going to carry a
31:54
Speaker 2: lot of weight because James Patterson's also a fighter. When
31:58
Speaker 2: you say the Liberal Party has got to rebuild, and
32:00
Speaker 2: I do think it's the Liberal Party, I have to say,
32:02
Speaker 2: more so than the National Party who has held a
32:05
Speaker 2: lot of its ground.
32:07
Speaker 3: What does that look like.
32:12
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it looks like hopefully a party that
32:16
Speaker 14: can come together in a unified way, respecting that of
32:21
Speaker 14: course we are a broad church that we are going
32:26
Speaker 14: to move forward with common sense and common sense policy
32:31
Speaker 14: and take you know, be of the center. That's what
32:36
Speaker 14: I think it looks like going forward. And look, can
32:38
Speaker 14: I just also say with regard to the National Party
32:42
Speaker 14: that I'm extremely grateful for the opportunities that the National
32:46
Speaker 14: Party has provided me under the leadership of David A
32:50
Speaker 14: Little Proud.
32:51
Speaker 12: I'm extremely grateful.
32:53
Speaker 14: And this what I'm doing now is of course no
32:57
Speaker 14: reflection on the National Party whatsoever. I'm very grateful for
33:01
Speaker 14: the support of people like James Patterson. You know, I've
33:06
Speaker 14: got some you know, wonderful friends in the Liberal Party.
33:10
Speaker 14: And as I said, I mean, I am a team player.
33:13
Speaker 14: The coalition is a team. You know, I've been I
33:16
Speaker 14: guess you know, played footy and I see it much
33:19
Speaker 14: like footy teams. And ultimately we want to rebuild and
33:24
Speaker 14: be strong for the benefit of the country.
33:26
Speaker 12: Ultimately, that is what we need to do.
33:28
Speaker 14: My biggest concern is under Albanesi in the next three
33:33
Speaker 14: years the state of the country that many of us
33:36
Speaker 14: are bracing for. So we need to be in a
33:39
Speaker 14: strong position in three years time for a rebuild of
33:43
Speaker 14: the country effectively.
33:47
Speaker 2: You know, you cut through during their Voice campaign in
33:51
Speaker 2: a way that few others did, and I think that's
33:53
Speaker 2: where most Australians looked at you closely and have been
33:56
Speaker 2: saying everywhere I go, and certainly I know you've heard
33:59
Speaker 2: it too. You need to be in a more prominent
34:01
Speaker 2: role inside a coalition.
34:03
Speaker 3: Is part of this move.
34:05
Speaker 2: A willingness for you to really step up, you know,
34:08
Speaker 2: get beyond just Aboriginal issues, as important as they are,
34:11
Speaker 2: but really step up to be at the forefront of
34:14
Speaker 2: where the coalition, where the Liberal Party in this case,
34:17
Speaker 2: takes itself and takes its policy over the next three years.
34:23
Speaker 12: Oh look, most definitely.
34:25
Speaker 14: You know, Indigenous issues are huge issues and something that
34:28
Speaker 14: I'm very passionate about, but we need to do a
34:31
Speaker 14: lot more across the board, across all policy areas. You know,
34:37
Speaker 14: and as many of us know, there was a great
34:40
Speaker 14: deal of policy work that was done before the last
34:43
Speaker 14: election that of course didn't see the.
34:45
Speaker 12: Light of day either.
34:47
Speaker 14: So definitely I want to be part of you know,
34:51
Speaker 14: putting forward something for the Australian people that they can
34:55
Speaker 14: get behind, and including our values, the importance of our values,
35:00
Speaker 14: the importance of being proud to be Australian, which I
35:04
Speaker 14: feel like has come under attack in more recent times.
35:08
Speaker 14: We want to make sure we want to instill that
35:10
Speaker 14: pride once more what it means to be Australians. And
35:13
Speaker 14: I think, you know, our values as a Liberal Party
35:17
Speaker 14: as well, we need to get back to. We need
35:19
Speaker 14: to demonstrate that that is what we are prepared to
35:21
Speaker 14: lead with as well, which I don't think there was
35:25
Speaker 14: enough in the lead up to the last election.
35:31
Speaker 7: You know.
35:32
Speaker 2: One of the criticisms out of the weekend as people
35:34
Speaker 2: have stopped listening to the Liberal Party, how are you
35:38
Speaker 2: going to be able to make them listen again?
35:43
Speaker 14: I mean, I think it's fairly evident that I'm not
35:47
Speaker 14: shy to draw a line in the sand and to
35:50
Speaker 14: be heard, and I think that's how we should all
35:54
Speaker 14: stand proudly, you know. Despite it was an incredible defeat,
35:58
Speaker 14: but it is a place that we from, place that
36:00
Speaker 14: we can rebuild as a coalition going forward. And I
36:05
Speaker 14: will always ensure that I'm lending my voice to the
36:08
Speaker 14: greater good, which is to support coalition but also to
36:12
Speaker 14: support our country and listen to the Australian people. It
36:16
Speaker 14: is ultimately the Australian people, and I think the Nationals
36:19
Speaker 14: party room have done a great job of being grassroots
36:22
Speaker 14: and listening to the Australian people, espousing their values and
36:25
Speaker 14: being led by them. And this is absolutely what we
36:28
Speaker 14: need to do. We need to be that voice for
36:30
Speaker 14: the forgotten people. As Mensies once put it, that's what
36:34
Speaker 14: we need to do going forward as part of the
36:36
Speaker 14: Liberal Party and the coalition, and that is how I
36:40
Speaker 14: will certainly lend my voice in the fight going forward.
36:46
Speaker 2: I know my viewers will be picking up the phone
36:48
Speaker 2: and reading their Coalation MPs tomorrow saying that you have
36:52
Speaker 2: got to be in the front line if that happens,
36:54
Speaker 2: just into an amperty proprice. You're willing to be drafted
36:57
Speaker 2: into some sort of leadership role?
36:58
Speaker 3: Are you willing to put your hand up?
37:02
Speaker 12: Look, you know this has been a massive step.
37:07
Speaker 14: You know I will not put any limitations on myself
37:11
Speaker 14: and ultimately, again I guess I've always been led by
37:15
Speaker 14: the Australian people and we'll continue to do so.
37:19
Speaker 12: And certainly I hope.
37:20
Speaker 14: That all of our all of my party colleagues, both
37:25
Speaker 14: sides we can continue to do that is to be
37:27
Speaker 14: led by the Australian people.
37:31
Speaker 3: All right, we will watch with interest enter the price.
37:33
Speaker 12: Thank you, thanks for having me.
37:40
Speaker 2: All right to get some potential names there, haven't You've
37:42
Speaker 2: got Susan Lee, you at Angus Taylor. There's talk of
37:45
Speaker 2: Ted O'Brien as well running for the deputy position, and
37:48
Speaker 2: I reckon that woman might throw her hand in the
37:50
Speaker 2: ring as well her hat in the ring. All right,
37:52
Speaker 2: after the break, the woman who's taken up the fives
37:54
Speaker 2: against a deplorable bill from the New South Wales Greens
37:57
Speaker 2: of the Parliaments and breaking news there, plus Rump looks
38:00
Speaker 2: set to strike an agreement with the UK on tariff.
38:02
Speaker 3: So could we be.
38:04
Speaker 2: Next welcome back to to come Kevin Rudd's latest broadside
38:11
Speaker 2: against Donald Trump. It's i'n't going to earn his friends
38:14
Speaker 2: in the White House, but joining me now on a
38:16
Speaker 2: totally different issue.
38:18
Speaker 3: We've got breaking news for you.
38:19
Speaker 2: Here, Professor Joanna Howe, I've on my Rhodes scholar, our
38:22
Speaker 2: law school academic. You'll know her, someone who's fought a
38:24
Speaker 2: long and hard fight to defend the human rights of
38:27
Speaker 2: babies born alive, following it an attempted late term abortion.
38:31
Speaker 3: Well, she's taken another fight.
38:32
Speaker 2: She did the trenches again, demanding the New South Wales
38:34
Speaker 2: premier struck up a radical bill from the Greens that
38:38
Speaker 2: was tabled last night in the New South Wales Parliament.
38:40
Speaker 2: As I said, it looks like she might have had
38:42
Speaker 2: a win. Joanna, how it joins me?
38:44
Speaker 3: Now?
38:44
Speaker 2: Will Joanna more strength to your arm? What has happened?
38:48
Speaker 2: What can you tell us now?
38:51
Speaker 15: I've just rushed from the chamber pete at where we
38:54
Speaker 15: have breaking years that the first very bad thing that
38:58
Speaker 15: this bill does has been so the bill gave a
39:02
Speaker 15: power to the Minister for Help to order all hospitals Catholic, Christian,
39:06
Speaker 15: any hospital in New South Wales to perform abortions and
39:09
Speaker 15: the hospital had to comply. And so, as I said
39:13
Speaker 15: at the start of March, this has the potential to
39:16
Speaker 15: end religious freedom in our country. And because of the
39:19
Speaker 15: showing of ten thousand people who came out last night
39:23
Speaker 15: in the dark with their kids, you know, just ordinary
39:26
Speaker 15: folk came out to say this cannot happen in New
39:29
Speaker 15: South Wales. One out of the four very bad things
39:32
Speaker 15: in this bill has already been defeated. It's going to
39:34
Speaker 15: be a long night. There's a steep mountain we have
39:36
Speaker 15: to climb. But I'm very excited and a bit emotional
39:40
Speaker 15: actually at the fact that together we've achieved something.
39:43
Speaker 2: Look, you've got a right to be. You have an
39:46
Speaker 2: absolute right to be. I spoke to Tony Abat last night.
39:49
Speaker 2: I know he went down and addressed your rally. He
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Speaker 2: said this was an assault on freedom of conscience. What
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Speaker 2: I don't understand is there are hospitals and g peak
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Speaker 2: clinics across the country that offer abortion services. So to
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Speaker 2: force those institutions that do not based on their religious
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Speaker 2: values is a line that Australians have never ever voted
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Speaker 2: to cross. So what's driving this agenda?
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Speaker 15: So look, in Australia, you can get a telehealth abortion
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Speaker 15: in any postcode, in any location, and it can cost
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Speaker 15: as little as six dollars eighty to end the life
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Speaker 15: of your child, so cheaper than a milkshake. And that's
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Speaker 15: how much the federal government subsidizes abortion. And the reality
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Speaker 15: is the smoke screen that the Greens have used for
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Speaker 15: this bill is to say that it needs to be
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Speaker 15: accessible in rural and regional areas. Chris Means, the premiere,
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Speaker 15: during the election campaign, came out and said that this
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Speaker 15: bill will decimate the health workforce because midwives and nurses
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Speaker 15: are not going to want to do this, and he
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Speaker 15: said it's an affront to religious freedom. And in the
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Speaker 15: election campaign we saw alban Easy talking about how he'd
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Speaker 15: come back to the faith, crying over the death of
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Speaker 15: Pope Frances, going to Saint Mary's on Easter Sunday, he
41:05
Speaker 15: was with the Greek Orthodox in the evening. You know,
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Speaker 15: they were courting the religious vote in Western Sydney, where
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Speaker 15: they knew those electorates voted against same sex marriage. They're
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Speaker 15: deeply conservative electorates and Labor fooled religious voters into thinking
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Speaker 15: that they would be on their site. And within one
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Speaker 15: day of Albanesi winning, Chris Mins did a grubby deal
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Speaker 15: with the Greens to ram this bill through the Parliament
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Speaker 15: despite all the assurances that they were going to block
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Speaker 15: this bill. So it is a massive breach of trust
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Speaker 15: from Labor. And what I think is driving this bill
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Speaker 15: is a pro abortion ideology deep within the Labor Party
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Speaker 15: because of Emily's List, because of that underground militia of
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Speaker 15: pro abortion women who have this as their number one
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Speaker 15: agenda item, and they've worked behind the scenes with Amandacon,
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Speaker 15: who's an abortionist in the Greens, who's leading this bill
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Speaker 15: in the Parliament. And what they want to see is
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Speaker 15: an ideology where none of us can dissent. You and I, Peter,
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Speaker 15: or any ordinary Australian or any ordinary health worker who
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Speaker 15: doesn't want to do abortions, doesn't want to perform abortions,
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Speaker 15: believes that abortion ends the life of an innocent, vulnerable child. Indeed,
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Speaker 15: our youngest Australians. The Greens and pro abortion labor want
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Speaker 15: to make sure that we went allowed to think that,
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Speaker 15: we're not allowed to believe that, we're not allowed to
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Speaker 15: act on that.
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Speaker 3: And of course I made the point last night.
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Speaker 2: Once you extend it into abortion, you're extending it into euthanasia.
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Speaker 2: There will be no line that's available to any health
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Speaker 2: worker or any worker to exercise their conscience. Just quickly,
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Speaker 2: I'm almost out of time. You mentioned four elements of
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Speaker 2: the bill. You defeated one. What are the other three?
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Speaker 15: Look the second aspect of the bill removes all hard
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Speaker 15: to keeping requirements on abortion, just essentially pushes it underground.
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Speaker 15: The third element forces doctors to be involved in abortion,
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Speaker 15: that to actively transfer, which makes them morally complicit. And
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Speaker 15: the fourth element, which is the one I'm most worried about,
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Speaker 15: because my sources tell me that this is the one
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Speaker 15: that Chris Mins and Labor want to push through, is
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Speaker 15: the ability to turn nurses and midwives into abortionness. If
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Speaker 15: this passes, this will make it even easier to end
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Speaker 15: the lives of innocent babies in this state. And if
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Speaker 15: it does pass, my message in New South Wales Labor
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Speaker 15: is we know what you've done. We see through you
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Speaker 15: and the ten thousand people that were there tonight last night.
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Speaker 15: We are passionate over the next twenty months of making
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Speaker 15: sure that you do not form government again in March
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Speaker 15: twenty twenty seven. We have long memories and we want
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Speaker 15: all of this bill to be gutted. It has no
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Speaker 15: place in a democratic country like Australia.
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Speaker 2: Joanna how thank you for that, and thank you for
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Speaker 2: the synopsis there or the simple understanding of what was
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Speaker 2: promised prior to the election, as you say to court,
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Speaker 2: the vote in parts of the country that Labor needed
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Speaker 2: to win and where.
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Speaker 3: We are now tonight.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, and well done at least
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Speaker 2: on getting that bit changed. Hey, look, some really sad
43:57
Speaker 2: news this afternoon before we go to the break. I'm
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Speaker 2: a liberal MP, doctor Katie Allen. She of course ran
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Speaker 2: as a candidate in the set of Chisholm wasn't successful.
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Speaker 2: She has announced very sadly tonight that she has been
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Speaker 2: diagnosed with a rare form of cancer. She says it
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Speaker 2: is stage four and it has already spread. She says,
44:16
Speaker 2: as a doctor, I've stood beside many patients and their
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Speaker 2: families in moments like this. I've seen an incredible courage,
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Speaker 2: in dignity and strength, and I feel the meense gratitude
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Speaker 2: for the life I've led. Now I face a very
44:27
Speaker 2: different challenge, but I will meet it with the same
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Speaker 2: qualities that have always guided me. Well, Dr Allen, to
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44:36
Speaker 2: wish you all the very best in the tough times ahead.
44:40
Speaker 2: All right, after the break, what would a US takeover
44:43
Speaker 2: of Gaza look like? The Prime Minister, sorry, the President
44:46
Speaker 2: of the United States is on his way to the
44:48
Speaker 2: Middle East. We'll talk about that and Kevin Rude's latest
44:51
Speaker 2: swipe at Donald Trump. What's it mean for our tariff negotiations.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back our international rap happens on a Thursday of
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Speaker 2: joined down to do that with Skyne his contributed kosher guard,
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Speaker 2: a former labor and p Michael Daanmi. We'll get to
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Speaker 2: the stuff in a moment, Michael. But just very quickly
45:11
Speaker 2: confirmation that Mark Dreyfuss has now been dumped by the
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Speaker 2: New Southwest Sorry, the Victorian Labor Right.
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Speaker 3: He will not make the cabinet. Is that correct?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
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Speaker 16: He lost full ballots fifteen to one. Wow, And I
45:24
Speaker 16: feel very sorry for him. He started so brightly in politics.
45:27
Speaker 16: He seems to have lost all of his friends. I
45:30
Speaker 16: haven't seen him since his very lovely wife died, but
45:35
Speaker 16: you know, he's made a lot of mistakes in personal
45:38
Speaker 16: relationships in politics.
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Speaker 2: Right, I won'll see what happens there. Hey, what's going
45:42
Speaker 2: on with Donald Trump and Kevin Right and tariffs? Because
45:45
Speaker 2: Kevin Right, you know, we obviously need a seat at
45:48
Speaker 2: the table. We need to renegotiate these tariffs. And it
45:50
Speaker 2: looks like Kevin Ryd has as ridiculed.
45:53
Speaker 3: Am I right?
45:54
Speaker 17: He was at some conference in Los Angeles and ridiculed
45:57
Speaker 17: the film Tariff, leaving Blue into it to sort of
46:00
Speaker 17: make a point and the Penguin Island thing. There's a
46:03
Speaker 17: love lost between those two. He's been rather blunt in
46:06
Speaker 17: his descriptions about Trump in the past. Trump has returned fire,
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Speaker 17: I know, but.
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Speaker 16: He's meant to be our representative.
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Speaker 17: That's terrible, I know, and he seems to continue with
46:15
Speaker 17: that formula. I think ultimately what it will come down
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Speaker 17: it doesn't help. And if Trump really makes an issue
46:20
Speaker 17: about that, I think primaries Albanezie will have a problem
46:23
Speaker 17: on his hands. But I think for now, ultimately what
46:25
Speaker 17: Trump wants is a term sheet that's feverable and that
46:28
Speaker 17: we can all agree to, And if that happens, I
46:30
Speaker 17: think he'll overlook the comments. But it's certainly not helpful that.
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Speaker 16: Donald should should concentrate on stopping Hollywood producing woke movies
46:36
Speaker 16: like the recent one of Was It Sleeping Beauty? That
46:40
Speaker 16: was terrible? Can by everyone make better movies?
46:43
Speaker 3: Movie that has failed the box office? Yeah, go, won't
46:47
Speaker 3: go broke?
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Speaker 2: And that ultimately will drive the change the President's off
46:51
Speaker 2: to the Middle East. But it's a bit of a well,
46:54
Speaker 2: it is a tinder box anyway, but it's getting worse
46:56
Speaker 2: at the moment.
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Speaker 3: What's going on with.
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Speaker 2: The Hooties and he run there's there's a real power
47:01
Speaker 2: play here.
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Speaker 16: There's only the President announced that there's only twenty one
47:04
Speaker 16: hostages left alive out of the fifty nine, so they're
47:07
Speaker 16: slowly torturing or killing them. The President declared the unilateral
47:12
Speaker 16: ceasefire at a press conference with the Prime Minister of
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Speaker 16: Canada with the Hooties. He didn't tell the Israelis, who
47:19
Speaker 16: were his close allies.
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Speaker 4: And in the.
47:21
Speaker 16: Meantime, the Uranians had a terrorist group in the UK
47:25
Speaker 16: four hours from being doing their operation, and in the
47:31
Speaker 16: President didn't seem to know it his press conference that
47:34
Speaker 16: the Hooties had just attacked Tel Aviv Airport. Now it's
47:38
Speaker 16: all one hydra headed monster that both they and the
47:42
Speaker 16: Israelis are going to have to decide what is done
47:44
Speaker 16: with the head of the monster. And the president, you know,
47:48
Speaker 16: forget the issue just of nuclear he has to deal
47:51
Speaker 16: with the issue of these crazy people shooting off missiles
47:54
Speaker 16: and running international terrorist incidents.
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Speaker 3: Can he do it?
47:59
Speaker 17: I think it's going to be very tricky this issue.
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Speaker 17: And President Trump boss is feecing a lot of pressure
48:03
Speaker 17: from his beast not get too mired and not get
48:06
Speaker 17: involved militarily. People are very tired of that. So he's
48:09
Speaker 17: balancing that with the shipping lean constraint and the broader
48:12
Speaker 17: issue around Israel.
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Speaker 16: So the public opinion polls show that a lot of
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Speaker 16: Republicans do not support his foreign policy options, either with
48:20
Speaker 16: Ukraine or with Israel, et cetera. Now Israel is getting
48:23
Speaker 16: more unpopular in American public opinion. That's true. But you
48:27
Speaker 16: know this is to declare a hood, that's what you
48:32
Speaker 16: call it in Arabic, a temporary ceasefire, while not looking
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Speaker 16: at what they're doing in the rest of the world.
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Speaker 16: Steve Whitcoff, I don't know. He may be good at
48:41
Speaker 16: real estate, but this is not a great negotiator, if
48:44
Speaker 16: you ask.
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Speaker 3: Me, I got to go.
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Speaker 2: Well done to you too for all your work in
48:48
Speaker 2: seeing off Adam Bant. I know working with many behind
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Speaker 2: the scenes. Thanks for it takes to both of you.
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Speaker 2: But well done to you. Michael Dambi.
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Speaker 3: That's it for me. See you all next week Monday
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Speaker 3: at six.
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Speaker 12: He is Andrew