Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 1026: Foundations - Where Does the Whitetail Time Go?
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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- 0:14Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
- 0:19Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
- 0:22Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
- 0:25Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's topic is the relentless march of
- 0:28Speaker 2: time and what it means to us as deer hunters. Look,
- 0:41Speaker 2: this is a topic that's been on my mind for
- 0:43Speaker 2: a while, and I'm guessing you'll be able to relate
- 0:46Speaker 2: to it. It seems like every year is marked by
- 0:48Speaker 2: some kind of annual events and that for some reason,
- 0:51Speaker 2: the hourglass is just draining faster than it used to.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how to describe it.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I don't know if we are all masked, disassociating or what,
- 0:59Speaker 2: but time freaking flying by. This has implications for our
- 1:03Speaker 2: lives as a whole, of course, but also for us
- 1:05Speaker 2: as deerhounds, which is what I'm going to talk about
- 1:07Speaker 2: right now. A couple of weeks ago, my daughters, my dad,
- 1:19Speaker 2: my sister, and my niece walked along a road in
- 1:21Speaker 2: Cocoa Beach, Florida, to get to a park on the
- 1:24Speaker 2: Banana River, which is really just kind of a giant
- 1:27Speaker 2: saltwater lagoon. Hundreds of other folks were already there by
- 1:31Speaker 2: the time we showed up, and after checking out a
- 1:33Speaker 2: manatee which was doing manatee stuff beneath a wooden walkway
- 1:36Speaker 2: over the water, we pointed ourselves to the northeast and
- 1:39Speaker 2: we waited at a distance that a fellow like me
- 1:42Speaker 2: could run in maybe about forty five minutes. Sat out
- 1:46Speaker 2: of sight four astronauts readying themselves for the Artemis two mission.
- 1:51Speaker 2: They were set to go on a ten day journey
- 1:53Speaker 2: that I'm sure you've heard about, where they were going
- 1:55Speaker 2: to travel to the far side of the Moon in
- 1:57Speaker 2: what is a multi phase mission to get humans not
- 2:00Speaker 2: only to set foot on the Moon again, but to
- 2:03Speaker 2: eventually establish a human presence on the Moon, much like
- 2:07Speaker 2: we've done with the International Space Station. Now, when we
- 2:11Speaker 2: think of a rocket going into space, we often think
- 2:13Speaker 2: of the discontinued Space Shuttle program, and we really can't
- 2:17Speaker 2: conceptualize the size of the whole thing. This whole ship,
- 2:22Speaker 2: rocket boosters, whole thing that was set to lift off
- 2:25Speaker 2: on April one and did while we watched with actual,
- 2:29Speaker 2: true patriotic pride in our hearts. Measured three hundred and
- 2:32Speaker 2: thirty two feet tall and weighed in at launch. It
- 2:36Speaker 2: get this five point seven six million pounds To escape
- 2:42Speaker 2: Earth's gravity well with what amounts to basically a thirty
- 2:45Speaker 2: story building, they needed to burn twelve thousand pounds of
- 2:50Speaker 2: rocket fuel every second. Think about that. Their total flight
- 2:55Speaker 2: path took them over two hundred and fifty thousand miles
- 2:58Speaker 2: from Earth and overall took them across six hundred and
- 3:02Speaker 2: twenty thousand miles. They'll see parts of the Moon that
- 3:06Speaker 2: have never been seen by humans, and on their return
- 3:09Speaker 2: they'll reach twenty five thousand miles per hour while the
- 3:13Speaker 2: outside of their shuttle heats up to five thousand degrees fahrenheit.
- 3:17Speaker 2: The next time you think of someone being really badass,
- 3:20Speaker 2: I want you to think about those astronauts and the
- 3:22Speaker 2: risks they took, and the astronauts who will do even
- 3:25Speaker 2: more in the near future to advance the Artemis program along.
- 3:29Speaker 2: And I want you to think that while they were
- 3:31Speaker 2: swinging around the Dark Side of the moon, hopefully listening
- 3:34Speaker 2: to some pink Floyd, but probably not that time for
- 3:37Speaker 2: them was moving at a different pace than it was
- 3:39Speaker 2: for us here on Earth. It's close enough to assume
- 3:43Speaker 2: that they probably didn't perceive time moving at a different speed,
- 3:47Speaker 2: but atomic clocks prove that it does, just as Einstein
- 3:51Speaker 2: predicted a long long time ago, before we proved that
- 3:54Speaker 2: time was relative. This is one of those concepts I
- 3:57Speaker 2: just can't quite wrap my head around, and I hate it.
- 4:00Speaker 2: I don't like to be so handily reminded of the
- 4:02Speaker 2: limitations of my own brain. But time is not absolute.
- 4:06Speaker 2: It's relative, and what that means is that time is
- 4:09Speaker 2: a function of how fast you're moving and how fast
- 4:12Speaker 2: you're accelerating. The faster you move, the slower time goes,
- 4:15Speaker 2: which is why if you could travel the speed of light,
- 4:18Speaker 2: which is the theoretical speed limit of the universe, time
- 4:21Speaker 2: essentially stands still, but not to you, because everything around
- 4:26Speaker 2: you is slowing down at the same speed, including your
- 4:29Speaker 2: aging process. It matches the time you're in No I know,
- 4:33Speaker 2: I know there's a lot more to it that gets
- 4:36Speaker 2: really wonky, like the twin paradox, but I don't know
- 4:39Speaker 2: how to explain it better, because I don't understand it
- 4:41Speaker 2: very well at all. What I do know is that
- 4:43Speaker 2: I keep talking to people, and I keep seeing Reddit
- 4:46Speaker 2: threads and other mentions of the fact that it feels
- 4:49Speaker 2: like time has started to move faster for a lot
- 4:51Speaker 2: of us in the last six years. But it's really
- 4:54Speaker 2: our perception of time which I just read about, and
- 4:57Speaker 2: the explanation was that, no surprise, our exposure to technology
- 5:02Speaker 2: is the culprit. This may be a totally wrong read
- 5:04Speaker 2: on it. I don't know, but I think about how
- 5:06Speaker 2: often I pick up my phone to look up something
- 5:09Speaker 2: and I get totally distracted by Instagram or some other site,
- 5:12Speaker 2: and pretty soon it's half an hour later, and I've
- 5:15Speaker 2: done nothing but melt my brain a little bit with
- 5:17Speaker 2: NonStop stimulation. That means truly nothing to me or my
- 5:21Speaker 2: experience as a human. I don't know, but I know
- 5:24Speaker 2: that life is flying by. I thought of that as
- 5:28Speaker 2: we watched that rocket takeoff and punch a hole through
- 5:30Speaker 2: the atmosphere to enter the vacuum of space, and the
- 5:33Speaker 2: fact that not only were my daughters there to witness it,
- 5:35Speaker 2: but my dad was too. He's the guy who got
- 5:38Speaker 2: me started in hunting. And fishing, and the seed he
- 5:41Speaker 2: planted when I was a child has grown into something
- 5:43Speaker 2: that has dominated my entire life. It has shaped the
- 5:47Speaker 2: course of me as a human. He and I haven't
- 5:50Speaker 2: always seen eye to eye, and I'm ashamed to admit
- 5:52Speaker 2: this now, but we didn't speak for a decade over
- 5:55Speaker 2: something that neither one of us really did, but both
- 5:57Speaker 2: of us enabled, and the key player in that story
- 6:01Speaker 2: has shed her mortal coil. I'll write the whole thing
- 6:03Speaker 2: into a book, but until then, I'll speak as evasively
- 6:06Speaker 2: as I can, because I don't want to hurt anyone
- 6:08Speaker 2: that way. My dad is seventy six now, and watching
- 6:11Speaker 2: him catch his first freshwater fish ever with my daughters
- 6:15Speaker 2: and talking to him about the deer we hunted and
- 6:17Speaker 2: the turkeys we chased and the dogs we never owned,
- 6:20Speaker 2: it kind of got to me. This was the first
- 6:22Speaker 2: time we ever flew together on a plane, and it
- 6:25Speaker 2: could be the last. I hope not, but I'm not
- 6:28Speaker 2: going to count on it, because life is unpredictable and
- 6:30Speaker 2: I can scarcely believe the journey I've been on anymore
- 6:33Speaker 2: than I can comprehend the life of someone else and
- 6:35Speaker 2: their day to day activities. Or their regrets or their
- 6:38Speaker 2: dreams are really anything. We are all mysteries to one
- 6:41Speaker 2: another in some ways, and maybe that's just how it goes.
- 6:44Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know that I regret not
- 6:47Speaker 2: hunting with him more than I have over the last
- 6:49Speaker 2: fifteen or twenty years of our lives. He's a crossbow
- 6:52Speaker 2: hunter now, and he hates it because at heart he's
- 6:55Speaker 2: a vertical bowhunter, and sometimes he talks about going back
- 6:58Speaker 2: to that, but he won't. He doesn't want a reminder
- 7:01Speaker 2: that he can't do that, and I think that's what
- 7:03Speaker 2: he'd get. I think he knows that. He talks about
- 7:06Speaker 2: death a lot too, which is probably a function of
- 7:08Speaker 2: believing you're closer to it than you ever thought you'd get,
- 7:11Speaker 2: which for someone who's spent a year and a half
- 7:13Speaker 2: in Vietnam and then nearly took himself right out of
- 7:15Speaker 2: the game twice not long after they sent him home,
- 7:18Speaker 2: I suspect he's pretty happy to get the days he's getting.
- 7:21Speaker 2: I also suspect that catching fish with all his granddaughters,
- 7:24Speaker 2: and watching humans do something good and powerful with their
- 7:26Speaker 2: collective minds, and that explorer spirit that hums inside some
- 7:30Speaker 2: folks to the point where they'll agree to a six
- 7:32Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand mile road trip and the name
- 7:35Speaker 2: of getting us off this rock was something pretty special
- 7:38Speaker 2: to him. I know it was to me A lot
- 7:41Speaker 2: of times on this podcast, including the episode I dropped
- 7:45Speaker 2: last week, I comment on the social aspect of hunting.
- 7:49Speaker 2: You don't have to listen to this show too often
- 7:51Speaker 2: to know that I'm just not a big fan of
- 7:53Speaker 2: social media. But I'm also just not interested in the
- 7:56Speaker 2: social aspect of hunting too much.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Now.
- 7:58Speaker 2: I like it some, but after that Florida trip with
- 8:01Speaker 2: my dad and my daughters and nearly my whole family,
- 8:04Speaker 2: I'm starting to realize that I'm wrong about it. It's
- 8:07Speaker 2: cool to go kill a giant buck on public land
- 8:10Speaker 2: and you know, engage in the whole solo pursuit with
- 8:12Speaker 2: a defined end goal. But you can only hunt on
- 8:16Speaker 2: your own so much before you either want someone to
- 8:19Speaker 2: share in your experiences or you want to teach someone
- 8:21Speaker 2: how to do what you love you want to pass
- 8:23Speaker 2: it on, which is you know the stage I'm in
- 8:26Speaker 2: right now, And in fact, I just set up a
- 8:28Speaker 2: Turkey blind that I know will be a good spot
- 8:30Speaker 2: to not only take my kids, but a couple other
- 8:33Speaker 2: people this spring, and it's highly likely we'll all see
- 8:36Speaker 2: some turkeys die, and if we don't, we'll certainly hear
- 8:39Speaker 2: them talk. And we'll see plenty of migrating songbirds, usually
- 8:42Speaker 2: a coyote or two, and always some deer somewhere along
- 8:56Speaker 2: the way. I'll get out to try to arrow a
- 8:58Speaker 2: bird of my own, and that'll be great. Two. But
- 9:01Speaker 2: when I look to the future of my life and
- 9:03Speaker 2: I acknowledge that this whole thing seems to be set
- 9:05Speaker 2: on one point five speed. Now, like what happens sometimes
- 9:08Speaker 2: when you hit the wrong button while listening to a
- 9:10Speaker 2: podcast and yours truly, or maybe Steve Vanella or Rogan
- 9:14Speaker 2: and a guest suddenly go Alvin and Chipmunk with their voices.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I'm thinking more about how to use my time Wisely.
- 9:21Speaker 2: It's a no brainer to take my daughters as much
- 9:23Speaker 2: as possible. But that was going to happen regardless of
- 9:25Speaker 2: how fast or slow the clock felt like it was ticking.
- 9:28Speaker 2: I live in low grade fear that that whole thing
- 9:31Speaker 2: will end at some point and they'll let me know
- 9:34Speaker 2: they don't want to go, you know, sit in a
- 9:36Speaker 2: turkey blind with me anymore. But so far, that hasn't happened. Now.
- 9:39Speaker 2: I did have one daughter get up to fish with
- 9:41Speaker 2: me every day on her vacation and one who slept in,
- 9:44Speaker 2: but that one spent more time netting crabs and fishing
- 9:46Speaker 2: later in the day, so I let it slide. I
- 9:48Speaker 2: don't want to force her or anyone else to hang
- 9:51Speaker 2: out with me, because I want the things I love
- 9:53Speaker 2: to be the things that other people love and not
- 9:55Speaker 2: just an obligation. Because if there's a real shared interest,
- 9:58Speaker 2: there's a really good chance bond is just going to
- 10:01Speaker 2: stay strong. We see that in the white tail world
- 10:04Speaker 2: quite a bit. And I bet when you think of
- 10:06Speaker 2: some of your favorite people in the whole world, that
- 10:09Speaker 2: they all share a love of deer. But it's not
- 10:12Speaker 2: a love of deer really, it's a love of what
- 10:15Speaker 2: the deer represent to us, which is sort of a
- 10:18Speaker 2: ticket to the places they live, and that gravity to
- 10:21Speaker 2: be there is strong. Now, if that's true for you,
- 10:24Speaker 2: ask yourself what the next ten years hold for you
- 10:27Speaker 2: and for them, you know, those people in your life.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Is there a trip you could take, maybe start banking
- 10:33Speaker 2: those Iowa points together, So over the next three to
- 10:36Speaker 2: maybe seven or eight years, you can talk about it
- 10:39Speaker 2: and plan it out and do some e scouting, and
- 10:41Speaker 2: just always have the prospect of that dream rut hunt
- 10:44Speaker 2: riding shotgun in your relationship until it's time to pull
- 10:48Speaker 2: the trigger and put the sticks to a tree. Maybe
- 10:51Speaker 2: your dad, you know, who grew up rifle hunting in
- 10:54Speaker 2: a place with very few deer and very few prospects
- 10:56Speaker 2: of shooting a big one has watched his hunting party
- 10:59Speaker 2: dwindle down nothing and is maybe thinking about selling the
- 11:02Speaker 2: shack because no one used it anymore. Go hunt with him,
- 11:06Speaker 2: even if you know that you won't shoot anything. It's
- 11:09Speaker 2: not always about the best odds of killing the kind
- 11:12Speaker 2: of dear we want, although that's what this entire industry
- 11:15Speaker 2: is predicated on, to the detriment of the whole thing,
- 11:18Speaker 2: at least to some extent, maybe a large extent, depending
- 11:22Speaker 2: on who you ask. Myself included there, As hypocritical as
- 11:26Speaker 2: that makes me sound, it's also about doing something with
- 11:29Speaker 2: your time that matters if it's all just speed running
- 11:33Speaker 2: toward death. For us, what we do with the years
- 11:36Speaker 2: we have is important. But even looking at it in
- 11:39Speaker 2: terms of years is a mistake. It's too hard to
- 11:42Speaker 2: grasp a full year. Months might be too much, and certainly,
- 11:46Speaker 2: looking at a hunting season as a whole season, it's
- 11:49Speaker 2: too hard to grasp. For example, here in Minnesota, we
- 11:52Speaker 2: have six weeks to turkey on if we get an
- 11:54Speaker 2: archery tag like I did. But that six weeks covers
- 11:57Speaker 2: mid April to the end of May, which is a
- 12:00Speaker 2: lot of time and a lot of different kinds of
- 12:02Speaker 2: turkey hunting opportunities rolled into one season. There's also a
- 12:06Speaker 2: hell of a lot of good fishing to be had
- 12:07Speaker 2: in that timeframe, and of course, depending on where you
- 12:10Speaker 2: live out of state, birds to chase, maybe bears out
- 12:13Speaker 2: West or up in Canada, maybe exotics down in Texas,
- 12:16Speaker 2: who knows. Wherever you live, there's probably some good opportunities
- 12:20Speaker 2: to get outside, not just during turkey season four turkeys,
- 12:24Speaker 2: but during spring for all kinds of things. And of
- 12:27Speaker 2: course you can get a little white tail work done
- 12:29Speaker 2: or a lot of it, and you can look at
- 12:32Speaker 2: summer because it's kind of the same way, just as
- 12:34Speaker 2: you should look at this upcoming deer season is not
- 12:36Speaker 2: just mostly two important weeks in November, but a whole
- 12:40Speaker 2: several month opportunity to use your time wisely, even if
- 12:44Speaker 2: that means hunting for a dough some morning in early
- 12:47Speaker 2: October when you just know that the big bucks aren't
- 12:50Speaker 2: going to walk in. Better yet, hunt that dough with
- 12:53Speaker 2: someone else, maybe someone you care about a whole lot,
- 12:56Speaker 2: and suddenly the fact that you probably won't kill a
- 12:59Speaker 2: big buck won't matter nearly as much because that's not
- 13:01Speaker 2: what it's about. I know that's almost sacrilegious to say,
- 13:05Speaker 2: but I'm at the stage of my life where I've
- 13:07Speaker 2: watched a hell of a lot of people get their
- 13:08Speaker 2: hands on prime deer ground, and they can and do
- 13:12Speaker 2: kill big deer nearly every year without very much effort.
- 13:16Speaker 2: I see a lot of them seem to enter this
- 13:18Speaker 2: weird phase where they can't see past the big bucks,
- 13:21Speaker 2: but they still want someone to come hunt with them.
- 13:24Speaker 2: It's a careful what you wish for situation. Honestly, some
- 13:28Speaker 2: of them move past the big buck gatekeeping to recognize
- 13:30Speaker 2: that they want more out of hunting, and that means
- 13:33Speaker 2: more with other people. But some never do, you know,
- 13:37Speaker 2: to each their own, you know, But I think it
- 13:39Speaker 2: pays dividends to remind ourselves as often as we can
- 13:42Speaker 2: that you can go to prom alone and have some fun.
- 13:44Speaker 2: But it's not the same thing as going with a date.
- 13:46Speaker 2: If you get my drift. We need other people and
- 13:50Speaker 2: we need shared experiences, and if the whole thing happens
- 13:53Speaker 2: to be conducive to a summertime glassing session or a
- 13:56Speaker 2: long weekend on the road to hunt out of a
- 13:58Speaker 2: tent with a couple of buddies, regret it for a
- 14:00Speaker 2: single second. Maybe that's the last thing I want to
- 14:03Speaker 2: say about this, because you can't talk about the passage
- 14:07Speaker 2: of time without acknowledging regret of time spent not doing
- 14:10Speaker 2: what you wish you had. I regret not speaking to
- 14:13Speaker 2: my dad for a decade in a way that brings
- 14:16Speaker 2: me a lot of shame to say it out loud.
- 14:18Speaker 2: But I can't go back in time and change the
- 14:20Speaker 2: events that conspire to create the whole mess we found
- 14:22Speaker 2: ourselves in. I can look forward to this coming turkey
- 14:26Speaker 2: season and bring my daughters down to hunt with him,
- 14:28Speaker 2: because he'll think it's pretty amazing to watch them shoot
- 14:31Speaker 2: a turkey. He'll also think it's pretty amazing just to
- 14:34Speaker 2: sit in a blind with them, eating snacks and trying
- 14:36Speaker 2: to call in a gobbler. That'll be time spent wisely,
- 14:40Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, and I highly doubt I'll regret bringing
- 14:43Speaker 2: them down to his neck of the woods, even though
- 14:45Speaker 2: I've had about enough of the driving game overall. Another
- 14:49Speaker 2: thing that I'm going to do this year is I'm
- 14:51Speaker 2: going to hang a couple ladder stands for him on
- 14:53Speaker 2: a farm we've hunted since I was fourteen, you know,
- 14:56Speaker 2: a piece of dirt. I got permission for us to
- 14:59Speaker 2: hunt one once again a couple weeks ago from a
- 15:02Speaker 2: phone call to a farmer who has beat cancer twice
- 15:04Speaker 2: but is on a timeline that isn't in his favor.
- 15:07Speaker 2: My dad and I figured out how to hunt deer
- 15:09Speaker 2: on that farm, and if you were to mine my
- 15:12Speaker 2: memories for the best ones, a hell of a lot
- 15:15Speaker 2: of them would involve he and I bow hunting deer
- 15:17Speaker 2: out there when I was younger. Now he hates hunting
- 15:20Speaker 2: out of ground blinds, and so I figure if I
- 15:22Speaker 2: do the work with those ladder stands and put them
- 15:24Speaker 2: in places that are not only pretty easy to get
- 15:26Speaker 2: to but also should show him some deer, I'll be
- 15:30Speaker 2: pretty happy using my time for that. I'll put up
- 15:33Speaker 2: some cameras to keep his excitement up, and maybe I'll
- 15:36Speaker 2: get a double ladder stand for one of those spots
- 15:38Speaker 2: so he can sit with one of the girls some
- 15:40Speaker 2: night and teach her what he taught me when I
- 15:42Speaker 2: was their age. I don't know, but I know that
- 15:46Speaker 2: I'd rather not have any more big regrets about how
- 15:48Speaker 2: I use my time or my life, even though I
- 15:51Speaker 2: know I will, because in some ways, just like a
- 15:54Speaker 2: lot of us, I'm a mistake making machine. But I'm
- 15:57Speaker 2: also just feeling that ever increasing acceleration of time as
- 16:00Speaker 2: I watch my little girls grow up, and I watch
- 16:03Speaker 2: my father slow down with each sporadic visit, and I hope,
- 16:07Speaker 2: above most things, that I don't forget this lesson that
- 16:11Speaker 2: I'm trying to teach you all with this episode. I
- 16:14Speaker 2: want you to remember it and if you need to
- 16:17Speaker 2: remind me of it, if you feel I'm veering off course,
- 16:22Speaker 2: I promise I'll do the same for you from time
- 16:24Speaker 2: to time before it's too late for all of us.
- 16:28Speaker 2: That's it for this week. I'm Tony Peterson. This has
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