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Thursday Thunderdome w/Stuckey + Collin Wilson · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites from the Volume podcast Network. I
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Speaker 1: am your host, Chad Millman, and very soon the Favorites
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Speaker 1: will begin diving deep into all things football every Tuesday
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Speaker 1: and Thursday, starting next week, all the way through the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's right, me and Simon Hunter twice a week,
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Speaker 1: double the Football fund as we've done in the past,
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Speaker 1: but for one last Thursday, let us enter the Thursday Thunderdome.
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Speaker 1: And before we get there, I'm going a little off
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Speaker 1: scripts here, Matt Mitchell. We do owe a debt of gratitude,
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Speaker 1: a huge thank you, a kudos to producer Matt Mitchell,
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Speaker 1: who dreamed up The Thursday Thunderdome, which I think maybe
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Speaker 1: one of the most creative podcasts we've done in the
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Speaker 1: short history of the Action Network, and who came up
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Speaker 1: with all the questions, did all the research, wrote all
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Speaker 1: the scripts every single week. The man is a one
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Speaker 1: man content machine. Matt Mitchell. When you conceived The Thursday Thunderdome,
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Speaker 1: did you in any way expected to last as long
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Speaker 1: as it did and then to be the lift that
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Speaker 1: it was every single week? No, I've been delighted that
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Speaker 1: it's been. As our episode description outlines, the most celebrated
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Speaker 1: sports betting podcast game show in media history. So it's
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Speaker 1: been very, very gratifying guests. It has perfectly lived up
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Speaker 1: to the description. On today's show, our special guests will
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Speaker 1: compete alongside professional sports better my companion Simon Hunter in
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Speaker 1: a championship round of wagers and wits. That's made this show,
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Speaker 1: as we've said, the most successful offseason addition to our
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Speaker 1: gambling portfolio since we took the Packers to win the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl A one. What's up, Simon Yad, It's it's
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Speaker 1: a happy day and a sad day. I am gonna
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Speaker 1: miss these Thursday thunder Dames as much as it brings
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Speaker 1: joy to Man Mitchell's Howard, I hate losing, you know,
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Speaker 1: I hate losing, and it's basically a stack deck against
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Speaker 1: me every week we do this, so it's one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite old saints. I suffered for my art. Now
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Speaker 1: it's your turn. That's what it feels like we've been
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Speaker 1: doing here on this show. I feel like I've just
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Speaker 1: been suffering Matt Mitchell's fantasy and now it's over. Next
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Speaker 1: week we get to be back to football. So whatever
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Speaker 1: happens today, I'm trying to go out on w just
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Speaker 1: to end the year on a win. Well, listen, you
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Speaker 1: have two stellar opponents today. Uh they are masters of trivia.
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Speaker 1: In fact, during the pandemic, one of these men started
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Speaker 1: the Action Network Trivia show and did his own research
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Speaker 1: every single week, challenging us to trivia. Your first challenger
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Speaker 1: his return guests to the Thunderdome. He's our favorite Arkansas
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Speaker 1: razorback whoa PIGSUI the heartbeat of Actions college football coverage,
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Speaker 1: and starting next week, you'll hear him on our brand
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Speaker 1: new B B O C podcast. That's the Big Bets
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Speaker 1: on Campus podcast. Starting next week, everyone download the Action
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Speaker 1: Networks all new college sports betting show. Welcome back to
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Speaker 1: the show, Colin Wilson, thanks for having me chat. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for having me Simon. Yeah, I was swimming this week
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Speaker 1: in the A C C. Coastal. I had some bets
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Speaker 1: on Victor Hoveland to win some Olympic gold and I
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Speaker 1: had to watch him chipping and getting bogeys at like
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Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning. So when I heard that
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Speaker 1: I was doing the show to beat Simon again, I
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Speaker 1: was more than excited to come back. So I'm welcome
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Speaker 1: to me here. Well, Also, you're busy prap you're you're
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Speaker 1: busy um studying baseball for our show Payoff Pitch, which
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Speaker 1: is absolutely excellent. And this week we'll have a brand
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Speaker 1: new feature that you and I are working on together,
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Speaker 1: which I can't wait. Monday's seven pm Eastern at Action
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Speaker 1: Network h Q. Check it out. Simon, your second Challenger,
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Speaker 1: is one of the most beloved, most unique, most irreplaceable
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Speaker 1: members of the Action Network content team, writer, handicapper, analyst,
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Speaker 1: app ambassador, Collins co host and the Big Bets on
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Speaker 1: Campus podcast Starting next week, our very own trivia King Stucky.
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Speaker 1: What's going on Chata and Simon and Colin. I guess
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Speaker 1: I gotta talk about my bets. I've only had one
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Speaker 1: Olympic bet so far, which was this morning with Sunny Lee.
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Speaker 1: Had to watch it on the Paramount app to win
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Speaker 1: the gold and the women's all Around. It was thrilling
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Speaker 1: to one by, like, I think a tent of a point.
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Speaker 1: That's my only bet so far. I love the women's
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Speaker 1: always love the women's All around every year. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do consider myself sort of a trivia connoisseur and
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Speaker 1: in sports and in other things. But we'll see what
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Speaker 1: questions Mitchell has cooked up alright, one thing I want
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Speaker 1: to be clear on. Look, Colin and Stucky. They are
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Speaker 1: the kings of our podcast network. No one does it better.
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Speaker 1: They are personality plus great representatives of everything that is
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Speaker 1: the Action Network. I listen to their podcast and I
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Speaker 1: think it is how we sound when we present information
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Speaker 1: they do. The Action Network Colleges Podcast nothing is changing.
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Speaker 1: We're just giving it a new name and it's getting
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Speaker 1: its own channel starting next week. So if you love
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Speaker 1: what's Stucky and Colin do on the Action Network Colleges Podcast,
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Speaker 1: which during the season is Monday and Friday with the
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Speaker 1: voicemails from fans where they hate on Colin and Stucky,
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Speaker 1: It's one of our favorite features and favorite segments that
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Speaker 1: we have in all of Action Network. Go download, Go
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Speaker 1: Same great hosts, the Star, Ski and Hutch of the
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Speaker 1: Action Network are just getting a new name for their
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Speaker 1: podcast and a new feed starting next week. So stay tuned,
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Speaker 1: Come on, do it already, do it, do it, do it.
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Speaker 1: Here's how the game is played today. You'll answer two
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Speaker 1: kinds of questions. First, traditional trivia questions about sports, sports, betting,
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Speaker 1: and the world at large second, completely subjective and totally
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Speaker 1: ass and I and open ended questions or prompts that
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Speaker 1: I alone will judge. Last time. That's going to happen
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Speaker 1: this season, folks. To accumulate points, you must answer the
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Speaker 1: trivia questions correctly and also convince me that your responses
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Speaker 1: to those open ended prompts are better than the responses
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Speaker 1: from your opponents. Let's begin Part one Japanese American athletes.
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Speaker 1: The Summer Olympics are underway, which means the city of
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Speaker 1: Tokyo and the country of Japan have entered the international spotlight,
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Speaker 1: whether they like it or not. In honor of the
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Speaker 1: many bonds between the Land of the Rising Sun and
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Speaker 1: the United States, let's highlight some of history's most famous
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Speaker 1: Japanese American athletes. Stucky a two part question for you.
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Speaker 1: Catcher Kurt Suzuki is a fourth generation Japanese American who
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Speaker 1: entered the Major's way back in two thousand seven and
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Speaker 1: won a World Series with the Nationals in two thousand nineteen.
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Speaker 1: He also won the two thousand four College World Series
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Speaker 1: with cal State Fullerton, a team nicknamed the who uses
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Speaker 1: this animal as its mascot? So I need two answers
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Speaker 1: here the name of the nickname for cal State Fullerton
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Speaker 1: and the animal that it uses as its mascot, cal
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Speaker 1: State Fullerton, is that are the Titans and the animal
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Speaker 1: that it uses as its mascot coyote. I have no
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Speaker 1: idea it is an elephant. Oh. I did know that
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Speaker 1: his name to Yeah, there you go. I did know,
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Speaker 1: not now that you said it, but I couldn't. I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought of it. Wow, stuck. He considers himself
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Speaker 1: the trivia king and kind of has all this in
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Speaker 1: his head and couldn't get there. Simon, It's an opening
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Speaker 1: for you. The son of a Japanese American father and
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Speaker 1: Irish American mother, Don Wakamatsu became the first manager of
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Speaker 1: Asian descent in Major League Baseball when this American league
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Speaker 1: team gave him the job in two thousand nine. Seattle
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Speaker 1: Mariners Correct Colin. One of the most decorated Winter Olympians ever,
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Speaker 1: this speed skater was the youngest US national champion ever
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Speaker 1: at the age of fourteen, before going on to win
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Speaker 1: eight Olympic medals. His first gold medal came in two
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Speaker 1: thousand two in the fift hundred meter short track. I'm
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Speaker 1: picturing his face and I don't know his name. I'll
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Speaker 1: say his first name is Matt Apollo Antony. Short track
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Speaker 1: speed skating is such a crapshoot of a sport. You
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Speaker 1: watch that and you think it doesn't matter how good
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Speaker 1: you are. If you're not in the lead early, if
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Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to not be clipped, that's how you're
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Speaker 1: going to win the race. I don't care if you're Apollo,
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Speaker 1: anton On, No or me. It's kind of like betting NASCAR, right,
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Speaker 1: it all comes down to the final lap and wiping out,
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Speaker 1: and uh, really, you're you're betting a roulette wheel speed
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Speaker 1: skating NASCAR, same thing. Here's the prompt, Fellows, this is
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Speaker 1: an easy one. What is the best country to be
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Speaker 1: an Olympic athlete? Simon your first I'm very pacific here.
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Speaker 1: I would be winning gold and surfing. I'd be from Fiji.
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Speaker 1: I'd go back just a legend to feed you for
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Speaker 1: the rest of my life, just living on a beach,
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Speaker 1: having beautiful women drinking drinks. They'd be the life chat.
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Speaker 1: So if I could be anywhere I win the gold,
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Speaker 1: I go back to my land of Fiji. I don't
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Speaker 1: mind that answer. I love I love the idea that
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Speaker 1: you can just hang loose and be free. If your
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Speaker 1: life until until climate change knox Knocks are country under water,
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Speaker 1: I get like twenty thirty good years. I don't even
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Speaker 1: think you get that, but well, if it makes people
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Speaker 1: feelingly better, Earth is gonna be here went long after
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Speaker 1: we're gone, So it doesn't matter what we do people,
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Speaker 1: it's it's all over. We've already gone so far. By
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Speaker 1: the way, Stucky, you're up next. I mean you have
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Speaker 1: to look at if you're asking me just one country
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Speaker 1: to win one gold. Um, I think you have to
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Speaker 1: look at a lot of the Asian countries which pay
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Speaker 1: the most. So not all countries pay at all if
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Speaker 1: you win to gold. Some pay. I think the US
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Speaker 1: is like thirty forty thousand if you win to gold.
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Speaker 1: Singapore is like seven hundred and fifty thousand if you
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Speaker 1: win to gold, Hong Kong is like six hundred thousand.
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Speaker 1: It's up there, and then Malaysia, which is what my
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Speaker 1: answer is gonna be. It's like three hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: thousand and a monthly salary for life. So I'm taking
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Speaker 1: the monetary route. If it's just one gold for one country,
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Speaker 1: I look Asia with some of those countries that I
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Speaker 1: just mentioned that pay the most, and I'm going Malaysia
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Speaker 1: for just a one time payment and then you know
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Speaker 1: you're passive and for life. Can't beat that. I think
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Speaker 1: that's a great answer, totally practical and probably signments just
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Speaker 1: because like there's a glory and happiness and doing it
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Speaker 1: why he did it in yours is a little bit
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Speaker 1: more mercenary. I did see on TikTok this morning somebody
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Speaker 1: did a TikTok about how much each gold medalist makes
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Speaker 1: from their various countries. In the US was so far
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Speaker 1: down the list after the countries you just mentioned. I
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Speaker 1: like your answer to Colin. We have we have polarities
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Speaker 1: in the answers so far. What is your response. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean there's this debate in life, like what makes
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Speaker 1: you happiest? Is it money or is it the experiences?
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Speaker 1: And some would argue that the money is what affords
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Speaker 1: you the ability to have experiences, is which we have
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Speaker 1: in these two answers. I think it's quite amazing we're
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Speaker 1: stuck you went. I think it highlights why we've been
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Speaker 1: so successful with our podcast for years, because I immediately
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Speaker 1: went to those countries too, And I mean I've heard
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Speaker 1: all about this weight liver from the Philippines that was
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Speaker 1: given six hundred thousand dollars two pieces of property. That's
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Speaker 1: outdone by Singapore. Now, as Stuck mentioned it, Singapore is
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Speaker 1: actually one million dollars for a gold medal, half million
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Speaker 1: for a silver and then a couple hundred thousand for
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Speaker 1: a bronze. There are sixty three islands in the Republic
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Speaker 1: of Singapore, and then you can bet with a million
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Speaker 1: dollars you could probably get one. And if you look
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Speaker 1: at the history of Singapore, like the Australian millionaires and billionaires,
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Speaker 1: like one of the Facebook founders owns like half those islands.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, give me a million dollars giving one of
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Speaker 1: the sixty three islands. Maybe my waves aren't as great
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Speaker 1: as Fiji, and maybe I'm not making as much money
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Speaker 1: as a monthly supplement income, but Singapore is the way
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Speaker 1: to go. It is a tax free haven. Why do
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Speaker 1: you think athletes don't want to play in California and
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Speaker 1: they want to go to Texas or Florida tax free haven?
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Speaker 1: Singapore is the answer. This is such a no brainer.
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Speaker 1: And let me just say that the best and I
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Speaker 1: will I will take it one step further. The experiences
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Speaker 1: that make you money are probably the best intersection, the
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Speaker 1: best VEN diagram there. And I will say that you're
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Speaker 1: answer is the best ven diagram of what the same
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Speaker 1: of what Simon presented and what's stuck he presented. Colin Wilson,
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Speaker 1: you are a Thunderdome champion and you have just proven
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Speaker 1: why well done. You've won the prompt. I am going
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Speaker 1: to donate all my funds to Apollo On. No, I
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Speaker 1: don't think he needs it. I think he made a
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Speaker 1: ton of dough and Dancing with the Stars. Part two.
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Speaker 1: Olympic upsets. Whether you're a gambler, a sports fan, or
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Speaker 1: just a good old fashioned patriot, few things can get
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Speaker 1: the blood pumping like an incredible Olympic upset. Let's remember
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Speaker 1: a few stucky. In one of the greatest upsets in
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Speaker 1: modern Olympic history, in the year two thousand, American Rulan
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Speaker 1: Gardner won a wrestling gold medal despite no prior international
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Speaker 1: or n C Double A titles. Gardner defeated Alexander Caroline,
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Speaker 1: who had won gold in every international competition since and
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Speaker 1: had gone six years without giving up a single point.
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Speaker 1: Caroline's nickname was the Russian Blank, a nod to the
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Speaker 1: caricatured depicts of the Russian Empire in old time newspaper
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Speaker 1: cartoons and the mascot of the nine eighty Moscow Olympics. Again,
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Speaker 1: the nickname was the Russian Blank. I mean, come on,
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Speaker 1: can you give? I mean, I don't. It is the
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Speaker 1: name of a famously public football team that has historically
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Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks that may or may not be on the
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Speaker 1: banner behind me. I'm gonna say the Russian Bear, well done.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you got it well, just I mean,
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Speaker 1: just with some of that. I don't. I don't know
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Speaker 1: who that guy. I've heard of that upset before. In two,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know who that guy was. In nine, the
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Speaker 1: US Women's Olympic gymnastics team won America's hearts after capturing
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Speaker 1: the all around team gold. The underdog highlight came when
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Speaker 1: this gymnast and timeless American hero landed a near flawless
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Speaker 1: al to on a badly injured ankle before being carried
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Speaker 1: off by her coach. I know this because I was
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Speaker 1: on the other side of the curtain watching the Dream
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Speaker 1: Team to and nine and the Georgia Dome. It would
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Speaker 1: be Carrie Stroka very nice Simon. A huge Olympic upset
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Speaker 1: befell a US women's team in two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 1: Despite a seventy nine game win streak and three consecutive
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Speaker 1: gold medals, America's team in this sport lost to Japan
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Speaker 1: in the two thou finals despite beating them by a
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Speaker 1: combined thirteen to one and two prior meetings. Who was
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Speaker 1: this team? Uh Women's gymnastics Part two prompts Here you go.
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Speaker 1: Imagine you can select one country to win an incredible
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Speaker 1: underdog gold medal at this year's Olympics. What country and
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Speaker 1: what sport would you choose? And why? Stucky Europe First?
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Speaker 1: I mean the work. I think it's gonna be. You know,
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Speaker 1: I thought about like a hundred meter free, which is
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Speaker 1: always one of my favorites, maybe the men's all around gymnastics,
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Speaker 1: but I'm going the hundred meter dash, which is basically
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Speaker 1: determines every Olympics who the fastest man in the world is.
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Speaker 1: It would be really cool to be the fastest man
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Speaker 1: in the world. Plus there's probably you know, advertisement deals
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Speaker 1: that you could get with that. So I'm going gonna
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Speaker 1: be the fastest man in the world, and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: do it for Monico. Going back to the money reasons,
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Speaker 1: Monica is one of the richest countries in the world,
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Speaker 1: and they've never had anybody when a Summer Olympic medal.
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Speaker 1: They actually did technically in like the in the twenties
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Speaker 1: for art. I don't know how that worked, but it
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Speaker 1: doesn't technically count in the when they count them all up.
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Speaker 1: So Monica has never won a gold medal. So I'm
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Speaker 1: going Monco. I'm gonna be the fastest man in the world.
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Speaker 1: And then who knows what they'll give me when I
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Speaker 1: go back. I mean, for example, you know Trinidad and Tobago,
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Speaker 1: they had they had a guy in two thousand twelve
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Speaker 1: when his second ever gold for the country, and they
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Speaker 1: gave him a hundred fifty cash, they gave they named
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Speaker 1: the plane after him, a lighthouse after him, they gave
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Speaker 1: him a penthouse, and they gave him like acres of
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Speaker 1: land or something, so who knows. And it was a
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Speaker 1: national holiday from the day that he wanted. So who
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Speaker 1: knows what Monica will do. We'll do if I get
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Speaker 1: their first goal. I'll be the fastest man of the
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Speaker 1: world when win all around. So I'm going fastest man
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Speaker 1: in the world for Monaco. I love that answer. It's
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Speaker 1: inspired because I can't imagine a more glamorous event to
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Speaker 1: win than the hundred meter dash. You're right, there is
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Speaker 1: like an aura that surrounds being the fastest man in
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Speaker 1: the world. It is his high profile and is sort
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Speaker 1: of beautiful an event as there is at the Olympics,
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Speaker 1: just pure speed and strength and being that glamorous. In Monaco,
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Speaker 1: they probably give you at least a tucks. You would
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Speaker 1: get to look great at con like. It just could
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Speaker 1: be amazing. So I'm with you, Colin, No, I think
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Speaker 1: I got it. I mean this one came to me
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Speaker 1: pretty easy. Let's do a little geography real quick. There's
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Speaker 1: a country called Aera Trea and if you don't know
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Speaker 1: where that's out, that is close to the Horn of Africa,
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Speaker 1: close to Jajibouti uh. And what Erra Trea is really
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Speaker 1: known for is they have multiple competitors in the steeple
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Speaker 1: chase at the Olympics. But one thing I knew about
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Speaker 1: Air Trea is I was thinking about this question is
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Speaker 1: they're one of two countries that competes in the Olympics,
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Speaker 1: but their countries have a ban against firearms. So if
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna win a gold medal, it's gonna be for
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Speaker 1: Aera Trea and it's gonna be in shooting. I don't
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Speaker 1: care if it's rifle, pistol, trap, men's, women's mixed doubles,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, ten meters prone standing, laying, it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: If you come from a country where they have banned
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Speaker 1: firearms and you win a gold medal, that's the goat.
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Speaker 1: They're playing fire arms in a tree right now, though,
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Speaker 1: But what's the glory that you figured out how to
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Speaker 1: win in an event that requires firearms from a country
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Speaker 1: that firearms are banned. Think about like your practice, your training,
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Speaker 1: and you're practicing like you're always gonna have I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be certain security checks, you're gonna have to
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Speaker 1: flash an I D every time you get pulled over,
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Speaker 1: like you're gonna be under such scrutiny. Like just to
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Speaker 1: get to the Olympics as one of these shooting competitors
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Speaker 1: has got to be tough and from your own country.
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Speaker 1: And then when to win the gold medal when nobody
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Speaker 1: else is allowed to legally disperse a firearm, I just
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Speaker 1: think that would be fantastic terrible answer. That's your first
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Speaker 1: bad answer, the first bad answer in the history of
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Speaker 1: the Thursday Thunderdome. Simon, You've got a big opening here
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Speaker 1: right now, so obviously you're gonna see a theme here
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Speaker 1: that I have surfing on my mind. Chat. It's just
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Speaker 1: the way it is. I'm just I'm all in on
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Speaker 1: surfing in the Olympics. I love it so much so.
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Speaker 1: Bolivia is a land locked country in South America. But
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Speaker 1: they weren't always landlocked. They actually used to be connected
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Speaker 1: to the ocean, but there was damn people from Chili.
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Speaker 1: They stole land from him, and no longer Bolivia had
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Speaker 1: any coastal line. So for me, I would love to
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Speaker 1: win a gold for Bolivia, and then you'd go back
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Speaker 1: and they would have a whole thing about this guy
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Speaker 1: who he didn't have an ocean to serve connected to
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Speaker 1: his country, and you end up winning gold and just
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Speaker 1: bring more awareness to how Bolivia used to have waterfront
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Speaker 1: land and now they don't because Chili stole it over
20:26
Speaker 1: eighty years ago. So Colin wants to win a shooting
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Speaker 1: event in a country where firearms are banned. You want
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Speaker 1: to go and find glory for a landlocked Bolivian country.
20:41
Speaker 1: It's a political statement. Yeah, we're a pretty superficial group.
20:44
Speaker 1: I'm not into I'm not into political statements for Bolivia.
20:48
Speaker 1: I'm into glamour and glory. Give me the fastest man
20:53
Speaker 1: in the world from Monaco. This is a All I
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Speaker 1: can see is James Bond. In this situation, Stucky wins that.
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Speaker 1: We are now through the first two rounds to tight rask.
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Speaker 1: Stucky has one point, Colin has two point, Simon has
21:08
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Speaker 1: This is a great, great set up. I love this one.
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Speaker 1: I'll ask each of you two questions, one NBA in
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Speaker 1: one NFL. Stucky in the draft, the New Jersey Nets
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Speaker 1: selected this Nigerian big man, and in his first full season,
21:59
Speaker 1: he'd play in fifty eight games and commits seventy two
22:02
Speaker 1: turnovers without recording a single assist. This remains the record
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Speaker 1: Uh yesca da nice Stucky. Here we go more and more.
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22:25
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22:28
Speaker 1: traded Hall of Famer Jerome Battist to the Steelers undrafted. Unfortunately,
22:32
Speaker 1: the Rams didn't draft any of the three future Hall
22:35
Speaker 1: of famers taken in that first round. Two of them,
22:39
Speaker 1: Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis, were taken by your favorite team,
22:43
Speaker 1: the Ravens. The third was this player, one of the
22:47
Speaker 1: greatest whiteouts in Syracuse history, who landed in the a
22:52
Speaker 1: f C East. I'm gonna say Syracuse wide receiver a
22:58
Speaker 1: f C East, oh starving Marvin something else. That's the problem.
23:05
Speaker 1: It was a good trick question if he said, if
23:07
Speaker 1: you didn't give me this, because I was I was thinking,
23:09
Speaker 1: Bill's totally Marvin Haryerson local Philly got to you grew
23:17
Speaker 1: he was that's right. Thank you. I mean, my questions
23:19
Speaker 1: were hard, Mitchell, but I got you gave me a
23:20
Speaker 1: g w and uh a Philly guy, So thank you
23:23
Speaker 1: for that. Those are tough. That was good. They're good,
23:25
Speaker 1: good questions. Colin with the ninth pick in the NBA
23:31
Speaker 1: draft and Milwaukee Bucks acquired future bust Robert Tractor Trailer
23:35
Speaker 1: after they drafted and traded this international power forward who
23:39
Speaker 1: go on to become the first European player to start
23:41
Speaker 1: an All Star Game or win NBA MVP. For European
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Speaker 1: player to win NBA MVP, turk whiskey, There we go, Colin.
23:51
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts selected all time NFL draft bust Steve
23:56
Speaker 1: Entman with the first pick in, but they could have
23:59
Speaker 1: taken the player Washington's pick at number four, who went
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24:13
Speaker 1: couldn't have. He couldn't have. He won a Super Bowl
24:16
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24:22
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24:24
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24:27
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24:30
Speaker 1: Well that easily, now that you've said all that, I'm
24:33
Speaker 1: gonna go with Charles Woodson. The answer is Desmond Howard.
24:37
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I said, Packers, I gotta pick a
24:41
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24:45
Speaker 1: name Simon. With the fifth and sixth picks in the
24:49
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24:53
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24:58
Speaker 1: of this legendary Davidson college product who'd be taken with
25:01
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25:14
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25:29
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Speaker 1: just a few seasons. How could you pivot and still
27:33
Speaker 1: profit off of your sports legacy? Stucky europe feet. I
27:39
Speaker 1: do appreciate getting Ginka Dari while uh Simon got Steph Curry.
27:43
Speaker 1: But um Mitchell, I'm gonna say this for you if
27:47
Speaker 1: this happened, if I was a bust, I would reach
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Speaker 1: out and network to both Chad Milman and Matt Mitchell
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Speaker 1: and leverage what I know about sports and in the
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Speaker 1: content space in sports betting, come work for Action Network.
28:01
Speaker 1: I mean, what better transition. So basically, if you were
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Speaker 1: a bust, you'd be doing the exact same thing you're
28:06
Speaker 1: doing now, Yeah, you're living. So what you're saying is
28:09
Speaker 1: you're living your dream exactly. It's totally true. You've got
28:14
Speaker 1: an incredible gig and you're doing an amazing job, and
28:16
Speaker 1: I love you for it. It's a great answer, Colin
28:20
Speaker 1: Stuckies answer tugs at my heartstrings and it's gonna be
28:23
Speaker 1: hard to beat it because everyone knows I'm sentimental and
28:26
Speaker 1: I love love Colin. So Chad, I think what I
28:30
Speaker 1: think what everybody needs to realize is that just because
28:33
Speaker 1: you know now that we're in the wake of the pandemic,
28:35
Speaker 1: there's this thing that we're dealing with in college football
28:38
Speaker 1: called super Senior, everybody has been granted an extra year
28:41
Speaker 1: of eligibility. And what that means is is people like
28:45
Speaker 1: me or people that didn't finish up their college career
28:48
Speaker 1: can go back and have another year. He said, well,
28:50
Speaker 1: there's no you know, there's no real money in that.
28:52
Speaker 1: But now there's name, image likeness. So we're in the
28:56
Speaker 1: wake of the pandemic, and what that means it's like
28:58
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell can go back to college for l s U.
29:02
Speaker 1: He could be sponsored by night Quill or a soda
29:05
Speaker 1: company or hard candy. If I'm Larry Tunsul, I'm looking
29:08
Speaker 1: for an n I L deal with an army surplus store.
29:11
Speaker 1: If I'm Tim Couch, I'm probably trying to sell furniture.
29:15
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if I'm if I'm a bust, I'm
29:17
Speaker 1: going back to college for my super senior season, and
29:20
Speaker 1: I'm taking local deals with the University of Arkansas, selling cars,
29:24
Speaker 1: selling barbecue, selling all kinds of things in Northwest Arkansas.
29:28
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'd be doing, is spending my one
29:31
Speaker 1: year of eligibility and using my name, image, likeness to profit.
29:35
Speaker 1: I think that requires a movie fan sort of like
29:40
Speaker 1: suspension of disbelief. But I love the idea because it
29:44
Speaker 1: is a great premise for a movie. You are a
29:46
Speaker 1: superstar athlete, you completely bust out after having your glory
29:51
Speaker 1: years in college. You get to the NFL, You're nothing.
29:53
Speaker 1: So what do you do? What do you do? You
29:55
Speaker 1: get this gift from the n C double A. You
29:57
Speaker 1: take one last shot to do you live those glory days.
30:01
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how old you are. You could be
30:04
Speaker 1: thirty seven, you could be forty nine, you could be
30:06
Speaker 1: fifty two. You get one more chance to go relive it. Brilliant.
30:10
Speaker 1: I love sentiments stuck, but I like creativity more. Colin.
30:14
Speaker 1: Don't say another word. Colin, you're in the lead right now.
30:17
Speaker 1: Don't say another word. Simon. Yeah, I can't beat it.
30:22
Speaker 1: I was gonna do a whole thing about how I
30:23
Speaker 1: would live in the same city I got, like, you know,
30:26
Speaker 1: I busted out, and I was the kind of the
30:27
Speaker 1: thing where we fixed busted up houses, and that would
30:30
Speaker 1: be my whole thing. Is like, I'm a bust now.
30:32
Speaker 1: I fixed busted houses. But I can't touch Colin. This
30:35
Speaker 1: is way too good to even compare. So I'm not
30:37
Speaker 1: gonna go through all mine. Let me ask you something, honestly,
30:40
Speaker 1: what the funk happened to you last night? Because your
30:43
Speaker 1: answers are now Chad, you came to come in me.
30:46
Speaker 1: You literally passed up on living in Fiji after a
30:48
Speaker 1: gold medal being a king to go live in Singapore
30:50
Speaker 1: for a million dollars. You're a joke. You don't even
30:53
Speaker 1: try to come after your check. You want to find
30:56
Speaker 1: political glory for Bolivia. You want to offend Bolivia and
31:01
Speaker 1: now you want to go you want to go on
31:03
Speaker 1: some house building crusade busted houses. I want to busted houses.
31:08
Speaker 1: Where is the cruel, heartless wise guy that I've come
31:14
Speaker 1: to love. I don't understand what's happening here. I fell
31:17
Speaker 1: back in love last night, Chad. Is that what happened you?
31:19
Speaker 1: The wine was flowing, my friend. I can't have you
31:22
Speaker 1: falling in love before the football season. No distractions, no distractions. Stucky,
31:27
Speaker 1: you've got three points. Colin, you've got four points. Simon,
31:30
Speaker 1: you've got three points. I should take a point away
31:32
Speaker 1: for your attitude. Right now? Here is the finale. Are
31:36
Speaker 1: you ready, trail blazing basketballers? Before we start, please close
31:42
Speaker 1: your eyes, hold up your fingers with your wager amounts. Stucky,
31:46
Speaker 1: you can wager up to three. Colon up to four,
31:48
Speaker 1: Simon up three. Here we go, here's the question. After
31:51
Speaker 1: his selection in the basketball draft, Japanese American guard What
31:58
Speaker 1: Missaka of the New York Knicks became the first non
32:01
Speaker 1: Caucasian player to play in a modern pro basketball game.
32:06
Speaker 1: The five seven Misaka enjoyed an incredible college basketball career,
32:11
Speaker 1: winning a championship in every year he played. He began
32:15
Speaker 1: with back to back junior college national titles at what
32:18
Speaker 1: is now Weber State University. Misaka then transferred and immediately
32:24
Speaker 1: led his new school to an n C Double A
32:26
Speaker 1: Tournament title. After this, Missaka was drafted and served two
32:31
Speaker 1: years in the army, but when he returned to school,
32:33
Speaker 1: he didn't skip a beat. He led his team to
32:36
Speaker 1: the much more prestigious n I T title in seven Today,
32:40
Speaker 1: the college program plays in a Power five conference, and
32:44
Speaker 1: Missaka's two titles remained the only basketball championships in program history.
32:51
Speaker 1: And luckily, they're no longer known as the Redskins, having
32:56
Speaker 1: changed their team nickname in nineteen seventy two. Please name
33:00
Speaker 1: this program. I will call on Colin first. Colin, you're
33:28
Speaker 1: up first, you had four points, you risked three points.
33:32
Speaker 1: Give me your answer. A Power five team that used
33:35
Speaker 1: to be named the Redskins. Yet I'm dealing with a
33:38
Speaker 1: historical figure that won all the time, and a basketball
33:41
Speaker 1: team that won all the time was U C l A.
33:44
Speaker 1: I don't remember them ever being named the Redskins. I
33:46
Speaker 1: don't remember them ever winning an n I T. But
33:48
Speaker 1: all I know is is when lu All Cinder was around,
33:50
Speaker 1: they won the national championship every single year. So I'll
33:53
Speaker 1: go with U C l A. And I know what's wrong, dude,
33:57
Speaker 1: lu Well Cinder played in college in the sixties. Colin,
34:01
Speaker 1: you have one point. Stucky, you had three points. You
34:07
Speaker 1: risked three points. What's your answer? I went with the
34:13
Speaker 1: University of Utah to explain the answer? Is the University
34:20
Speaker 1: of Utah the clue that gave it away. I didn't
34:23
Speaker 1: know where you went to college, but was that. I
34:25
Speaker 1: knew that they were named the Redskins before and I
34:27
Speaker 1: was reading an article before, like Eastern Michigan used to
34:29
Speaker 1: be like the Hurons and they changed it. They did
34:31
Speaker 1: that in the early nineties, and I know the Utah
34:33
Speaker 1: So that was the clue that I think gave it
34:36
Speaker 1: away from me. They went to the national title in
34:37
Speaker 1: the nineties, but I think that those would be their
34:39
Speaker 1: only one explains the feather on the logo, Like I know,
34:42
Speaker 1: the Utah Utes have always been in my brain, and
34:44
Speaker 1: I can tell you about Andre Miller and all kinds
34:46
Speaker 1: of stuff. I think you're beautiful. I think you're smart,
34:48
Speaker 1: just the way you are, even if you're gonna lose
34:50
Speaker 1: the thunderdome today, Stucky, you are a hundred percent correct.
34:54
Speaker 1: You now have six points. Simon, what's your answer? You
34:57
Speaker 1: had three? U risk three. I should have followed westco
35:00
Speaker 1: so I was smart by these guys. I went with St. John's.
35:02
Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of an old school
35:03
Speaker 1: that I know used to be good, so I was
35:05
Speaker 1: way off. Wow. Stucky the Action Network Trivia King, the
35:12
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35:21
Speaker 1: the final winner. You get your name etched in my
35:25
Speaker 1: memory as the final winner of the Thursday Thunderdome. But
35:30
Speaker 1: what's beautiful is, as we signed off today, we have
35:32
Speaker 1: three past champions in Stucky, Simon and Colin. All of
35:36
Speaker 1: you are winners in my book. Before we sign off,
35:39
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35:42
Speaker 1: Patrick Keen. You're out of your goddamn minds. Are you
35:47
Speaker 1: listening to me? You're nuts? All right? This has been
35:51
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35:53
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35:57
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