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Ravens vs Steelers NFL DFS Showdown | Week 18 SNF | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: What is going on ship at Nation YouTube station. We're
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  Speaker 1: back with my guy Ham for the last Sunday night
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  Speaker 1: football breakdown. I know we've been up and down all
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  Speaker 1: across the season with traveling this and that. Ham, You've
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  Speaker 1: you've carried some of the load. They're doing some quick
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  Speaker 1: hits along the way, so I appreciate that when I've
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  Speaker 1: been out of town. But we're back here to close
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  Speaker 1: out the season, and we got the third game of
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  Speaker 1: Week eighteen that seems to have any matter. The rest
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  Speaker 1: of the games you can say what you want, but
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  Speaker 1: don't really mean too much outside of those obviously games.
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  Speaker 1: Last night that we saw Seahawks man putting an absolute
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  Speaker 1: beat down on the forty nine ers I talked about.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking trash about Rock Party in the discord chat,
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  Speaker 1: got slandered pretty hard, and I guess what what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Rock Party shot his leg again, like always in any
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  Speaker 1: big scenario where he needs to win right and the
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  Speaker 1: pressures on the line, Seahawks just absolutely destroyed him the
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  Speaker 1: whole game there. The score should have been much more
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  Speaker 1: lopsided than it was. But that takes us into this
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  Speaker 1: game division battle here for the title winner gets in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs and wins the division. Right now, forty and
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  Speaker 1: a half is the total. Ravens favored by three and
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  Speaker 1: a half on the road here in Pittsburgh, and Lamar
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  Speaker 1: Jackson gonna be back under center here. No more snow
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  Speaker 1: Puntley stowpont Ley dog down the Packers enough last week
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  Speaker 1: that Harball said, yeah, no, we can't be doing that.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna put Lamar Jackson in. He's our worst quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: but let's see what he's got. I'll bring you in him.
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  Speaker 1: I know you love yourself some of Lamar Jackson. Happy
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  Speaker 1: Sunday brother, Week eighteen, We're here. What's up man? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: happy Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to believe, Nate, this is year three of
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night football for us in the books. I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: everyone tuning in. I don't think anyone got the right
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  Speaker 2: score all season long. Some days we need to up
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  Speaker 2: to any maybe like a I don't know, month long
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  Speaker 2: pass with saber or something, if someone could get the
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  Speaker 2: right score.
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  Speaker 1: But certainly appreciate you tuning in.
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  Speaker 2: All the likes commentary from that, and yeah the U
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  Speaker 2: I said it to you. Appreciate the Steelers' best players
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  Speaker 2: playing tonight, and his name is Lamar Jackson. The Steelers
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  Speaker 2: got just what they wanted. Part time actor Snoopuntley does
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  Speaker 2: great commercials as on the sidelines. Lamar's back tonight, TJ
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  Speaker 2: Watts back tonight. So the playoffs start. In essence tonight
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  Speaker 2: for these two teams.
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  Speaker 1: Should be a good game.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna dive right into the captains. But yeah, looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to breaking it all down with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to to breaking it all down. The
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  Speaker 1: last two time, last time these uh, these two teams played,
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  Speaker 1: it was uh, I think what what was it? It
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  Speaker 1: was a blowout? I think one way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the thing was was DK Metcalf had a
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  Speaker 2: really good game. I don't think it was a blowout,
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  Speaker 2: but DK had a really good game, thinking went over
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and uh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes sense. That, yeah, that makes sense. That That's
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  Speaker 1: the point I was trying to go into. Is this
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  Speaker 1: Ravens defense against wide receivers is just absolutely atrocious. They're
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  Speaker 1: I think fourth worst against the slot, third worst against
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  Speaker 1: the slots let me see, yeah or sorry, seventh worst
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  Speaker 1: against the slot, and second worst against wide receivers out wide,
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  Speaker 1: Which that's obviously, where DK Metcalf runs all of his
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  Speaker 1: routes is on the outside there and they're there is
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  Speaker 1: no DK Metcalf here tonight, so that's gonna make obviously
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  Speaker 1: talking about Calvin Austin and my boy Marcuz Veldez Scantling,
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  Speaker 1: who last week with no DK Metcalf had nine targets
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  Speaker 1: and ran thirty nine routes on the outside where the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens get destroyed pretty bad overall, So we'll do a
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  Speaker 1: lot talking about those when we get over to the
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  Speaker 1: flexplit position. More so, don't really love the chief Captain
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  Speaker 1: route as much just because you get on a similar
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  Speaker 1: roster construction as the rest of the field. But I
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  Speaker 1: think you could take a shot on either Kelvin Austin
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  Speaker 1: or Velda scant Leg down the board in probably twenty
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  Speaker 1: plus teams something like that to have some of them
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  Speaker 1: in the captain pool, just because it is the best
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  Speaker 1: spot to target. And you would have to assume that
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at least a spread when indicate right that they're
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  Speaker 1: three and a half point dogs, they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: a pass on heavy approach. That's the way they like
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  Speaker 1: to play anyways, and Baltimore has been pretty solid against
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  Speaker 1: the run, not good at all against the past here.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm if I'm that coach and I know
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  Speaker 1: that going in, that's gonna be my game plan. I
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  Speaker 1: know it is a little tricky with this wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: corp that the Steelers that are left with, but that
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  Speaker 1: takes us into the captain position here Ham seventeen to
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  Speaker 1: four for Lamar, seventeen to one for Henry up top,
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  Speaker 1: those are big boy price points. Then it drops all
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  Speaker 1: the way down to fifteen k flat for Rogers. Jay
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  Speaker 1: Flowers at thirteen eight. With that price discount off of
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  Speaker 1: the top three, Jay Flowers is going to be probably
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  Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five percent owned up top as the
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  Speaker 1: most popular guy, even over Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry.
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  Speaker 1: Then you got Jalen Warren, who's not gonna get played
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  Speaker 1: at all up there, and everybody's gonna play Keneth gainwell
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  Speaker 1: because of the spread, because of everything that everyone has
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  Speaker 1: seen as of late. And then it drops down to
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  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. Those are probably those are pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: only guys getting getting ownership is Mark Andrews at nine
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  Speaker 1: to six, all the way up to Lamar Jackson. What
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  Speaker 1: do you see here from the captain position.
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  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, had it's knees.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the uh? I mean to me, it's pretty simple.
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  Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you're good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's to me, it's pretty simple. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: if you're the Ravens the last two games against the Patriots,
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  Speaker 2: against the Packers, your key to success was to turn
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  Speaker 2: around to hand them to the King number twenty two
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  Speaker 2: future Hall of Famer Derrick Henry obliterated the Patriots, then
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  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, didn't get carries at the end, and
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  Speaker 2: then last week was just you know, vintage Derrick Henry,
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  Speaker 2: taking him back to his high school days. So Derrick
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  Speaker 2: Henry to me is the clearcut, you know, top captain.
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  Speaker 2: You're not gonna sneak that past anybody. He is seventeen
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  Speaker 2: to one, but to me, he's clearly up there. I
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  Speaker 2: don't have any interest in either of these quarterbacks. Certainly
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  Speaker 2: not not Lamar. He hasn't been running all season long,
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  Speaker 2: nursing an injury. Aaron Rodgers just the shell of his
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  Speaker 2: former self.
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  Speaker 1: He can't move.
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  Speaker 2: He's thrown to some guy that like should be an
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  Speaker 2: electrician by now. Marcus Valdez scaling Adam Thielen Roman, Wilson
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  Speaker 2: Roman reigns, it doesn't matter. He doesn't have any receivers.
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  Speaker 2: And then Zay Flowers you said it, he's gonna get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of ownership too based on
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  Speaker 2: that price. But if I'm kind of going off the board, Aids,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm going outside of Derrick Henry, it is going
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  Speaker 2: to be to Mark Andrews at ninety six hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 1: I like him.
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  Speaker 2: He's been he's been down a little bit. But in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, when the Ravens, you know, need somebody in
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  Speaker 2: the clutch, when the chips are down, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can count.
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  Speaker 1: All reliable Mark Andrews.
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  Speaker 2: So he's kind of an off the board, uh captain
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  Speaker 2: for me that I like. But it's like you said,
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  Speaker 2: it's tough to find somebody down low there that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be in the captain. So for me, it's Derrick
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  Speaker 2: Henry clearcut and then kind of off the board one
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  Speaker 2: would be Andrews, and then Flowers will kind of be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a distant third as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I like a lot of what you said there.
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  Speaker 1: Derick Henry is going to be my favorite captain. I
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  Speaker 1: just think if Harbaugh can just realize that, hey, he's
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  Speaker 1: got a really good running back and it's December, well
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  Speaker 1: January now, it's still cold outside in Pittsburgh. Just hand
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  Speaker 1: the ball to Derrick Henry and that keeps the other
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  Speaker 1: team off, the clock off the field, right, you keep
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  Speaker 1: the clock in your hands. And you've got a guy
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  Speaker 1: that I mean takes a whole team to tackle, right,
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  Speaker 1: Hand the freaking ball to him. And he's not even
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the most popular guy. I mean, he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be up there. Obviously, he's gonna be second most popular.
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  Speaker 1: But Save Flowers is right there, and I just know
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens are just not gonna pass the ball if
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  Speaker 1: they get a lead. They're just not They're gonna sit
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  Speaker 1: on it. They're gonna hand it off to Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 1: and or I mean, they're running back committee, whatever whatever
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  Speaker 1: the hell they do with Ali coming in there, Keith
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell coming in there right, because Harbo has to stick
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  Speaker 1: to his running back rotation even though it's a must
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  Speaker 1: win game in week eighteen here, so we'll see what
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  Speaker 1: that happens. But yeah, Derick Kenry, for me, my favorite
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  Speaker 1: guy up top by far. My second favorite guy is
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  Speaker 1: probably actually gonna be Aaron Rodgers. The reason being is
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  Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are gonna have to throw a ton.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers almost threw for three hundred yards against these
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  Speaker 1: guys last time. I know there's no DK Metcalf, but
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  Speaker 1: with no DK Metcalf, that means the target tree is
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  Speaker 1: going to be probably spread out a lot more than normal.
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  Speaker 1: Guys like Adam Thieland ran a shit ton of routes
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  Speaker 1: last week. Pat Fryarmuth think he's a fine play. And
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  Speaker 1: then you got the guys like Kelvin Austin, Marcuez, Velde Scantling,
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  Speaker 1: Scotty Miller, all in that four, all in that three
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  Speaker 1: k range down there, who all ran a ton of routes,
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  Speaker 1: especially from the outside. Scotty Miller ran thirty two routes
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  Speaker 1: outside last week, Feeland ran thirty seven, Veldas Scantling ran
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  Speaker 1: thirty nine, got nine to five and seven targets in
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  Speaker 1: Fryarmuth right there at twenty seven targets out wide. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I want to target the wide receivers who line up
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  Speaker 1: out wide against this Ravens team, and all four of
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  Speaker 1: those guys are all running thirty plus routes and getting
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  Speaker 1: five plus targets in this game, if that's enough, and
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  Speaker 1: Rogers throws one to this guy and one to that guy,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe he runs in one like he did last
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  Speaker 1: game against the Ravens here in a must win game,
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  Speaker 1: right vinta. Jaron Rodgers kind of going out on his
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  Speaker 1: farewell tour here, Well, that's probably enough to put him
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  Speaker 1: up top at fifteen K and allow you to four
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  Speaker 1: maybe Derrick Henry or Lamar or even put potentially both
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  Speaker 1: of them in the flex right with these cheap pass catchers.
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  Speaker 1: So I'd like Rogers up top. I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: anybody's gonna click that name. And it is scary. I
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  Speaker 1: get it, he can't move. But again, in a lower
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  Speaker 1: type scoring game which you could see go under the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback points are just much more guaranteed, and taking a
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  Speaker 1: shot on those guys that does have a viable path
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  Speaker 1: to a ceiling, I think it's interesting. So I like
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers quite a bit up top. Derrick Henry, Lamar
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  Speaker 1: Jackson I think is fine up top obviously. The guy
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  Speaker 1: I don't really love up top is Say Flowers. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't love that ownership. I mean, I get it,
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  Speaker 1: he wide receivers have have beat up this Steelers team
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  Speaker 1: as well. But man, they just they're just games where
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  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers just I mean is non existent, right. I
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  Speaker 1: know he's been heavily involved as of late in general
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  Speaker 1: in terms of a target sense. Looking at last week,
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  Speaker 1: we go to the Ravens here and just do all
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  Speaker 1: so Jay Flowers, I mean he still only had five
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  Speaker 1: targets last week. Yeah, he caught a touchdown, But I
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  Speaker 1: mean you go to to week sixteen even for Zay Flowers, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: seven targets for eighty four yards, no touchdown. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you go to fifteen, week fifteen, five targets, three receptions
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  Speaker 1: for a touchdown sixty eight yards. I mean, it just
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  Speaker 1: seems like more of a floor, more of a middling
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  Speaker 1: type performance outcome. And if he's gonna be the most
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  Speaker 1: popular guy when I'm already in on Henry Lamar those guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be under on Zay Flowers and just take it,
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  Speaker 1: take a chance being under there. My actually favorite pass
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  Speaker 1: catcher is with you. I think Mark Andrews up top
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  Speaker 1: because it gets you a nice salary discount ninety six hundred.
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  Speaker 1: That's a fair price point to play up there, because
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  Speaker 1: what it allows you to do in that flex then
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  Speaker 1: and get to some of those Steelers running backs, those
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  Speaker 1: gain Wells, or the Warrens, the Rogers, the Henry's, the
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  Speaker 1: Lamars of the world. So I think Mark Andrews uptop
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  Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. I'm there, I'm with you there. And
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  Speaker 1: then the other guy I have interested in is I
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  Speaker 1: think the field's gonna go and play Kenneth Gainwell up top,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine, right, especially if the spread does stay
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  Speaker 1: true and you think this team trails the entire game.
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell is definitely gonna have a viable chance to
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  Speaker 1: a ceiling, which I think he's fine up there. But
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  Speaker 1: if this game script just flips any any by, by
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  Speaker 1: any stretch, Jalen Warren is not gonna get played at
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  Speaker 1: all up there. We know when they're winning games, they
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  Speaker 1: are more than willing just to turn around and hand
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  Speaker 1: the ball off to Jalen Warren. He's a little involved
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  Speaker 1: in the in the past game as well. I think
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren at ownership with nobody going to play that name.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody on the other side, Lamar is gonna be much
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  Speaker 1: more popular. Derek Henry is going to be much more popular.
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  Speaker 1: Just flipping that game script to the Steelers side and
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  Speaker 1: going to a guy like Jalen Warren I think is
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  Speaker 1: pretty pretty interesting as well. He did run four routes
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  Speaker 1: last week. Obviously that was significantly less than what Kenneth
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  Speaker 1: Gainwell does, which no surprise, we know that. But at ownership,
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  Speaker 1: I think if this game just scripts and Jalen Warren
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  Speaker 1: falls in the box twice, that could be enough on
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  Speaker 1: a low scoring game and get you on a different
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  Speaker 1: roster construction and a different build than what the field does.
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  Speaker 1: So those are kind of the guys that I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at up there. Andrews, Warren and Gainwell are fine. Rogers,
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  Speaker 1: Henry are kind of my main guys. And then Lamar
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  Speaker 1: obviously is decent up there. The guy I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be really on too much. It is a Flowers, But
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  Speaker 1: any additional takes from you from the captain position here, now.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you broke it down pretty well. We agree
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  Speaker 2: in some areas, disagreeing some, but yeah, that's that's the
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  Speaker 2: beauty of it.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's jump over talk flex here. Obviously got the
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks all the way up the top with Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 1: at eleven six, Aaron Rodgers at ten k you got
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  Speaker 1: Derek Henry just two hundred dollars less than Lamar. Both
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  Speaker 1: of them are gonna get played a ton. I'm probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna to take a look and probably limit my builds
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  Speaker 1: to one of them. I know, we do have some
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  Speaker 1: good value on the state and you can easily afford
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  Speaker 1: both of them. However, I just don't know if both
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  Speaker 1: of them get there together. I kind of when I
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  Speaker 1: was doing this with the Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 1: at similar price points, I mean, only one time all
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  Speaker 1: season did Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley find the winner together.
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  Speaker 1: Now it probably happens more often with Lamar Jackson and
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  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. But at these price points, just man, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna fall in a similar roster construction than the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the field does, and you're gonna go down here.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna punt with guys like Veldez, Gantlin, Calvin Austin, Right,
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  Speaker 1: all of these cheapies down here. I mean, I just
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  Speaker 1: think it's the same build as the rest of the field,
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  Speaker 1: And I mean those guys are priced up over three K. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they're not in that two K range, right, we don't
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  Speaker 1: have the tight end roulette that we used to have
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  Speaker 1: right with Darnell Washington, John new Smith and Pat Fryermouth
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  Speaker 1: all in that two K range. Far moves up to
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  Speaker 1: fifty two hundred. John new Smith's up to forty two hundred,
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  Speaker 1: and now Connor Hayward, who's gonna step in for an
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  Speaker 1: injured Darnell Washington. Yeah, he he's down at sixteen hundred,
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  Speaker 1: but he's more of a blocker. He's not really involved
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  Speaker 1: too much. I mean, the value down at the Lolo
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  Speaker 1: range is not great, and the value that we do have,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's going to be on it. In Calvin Austin, Veldus,
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  Speaker 1: Gant Leg Scottie Miller is probably the pivot there. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't feel great by any means. So
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  Speaker 1: what do you see here from the top range? Touch
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  Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson and Rogers what you're doing there, and
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  Speaker 1: then take us into the running back range running back
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  Speaker 1: room as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really love a rod in this one.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have many weapons missing, you know, two of
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  Speaker 2: us I would say top five weapons.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't really run, so I don't really have interest
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  Speaker 1: in him.
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  Speaker 2: Lamar. I mean, Lamar's fun, like the reason you play
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  Speaker 2: Lamar is because of his legs, and he just hasn't
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  Speaker 2: used his legs that much this season. So you know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: if I'm building, you know, ten plus teams, yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have a little bit of Lamar, but I would
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  Speaker 2: I would generally be underweight on him. Heavy doses of
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  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry I think are great. I didn't watch the
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  Speaker 2: game last week, but Kenneth Gainwell out snapped Warren like
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  Speaker 2: two to one. So that's interesting right there. And then
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  Speaker 2: I liked what you were a lot what you were
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  Speaker 2: saying down there in the in the lower rangement, there's
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  Speaker 2: not really many weapons like Scotty Miller. I think he
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  Speaker 2: got seven targets last week, I think. But I know
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  Speaker 2: we're keeping up here in the top range. But it's yeah,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's Henry, it's Andrews.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: And then one name I didn't.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Want to throw out. He's a little lower, so we'll
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: talk about him. We'll talk about him here in a minute.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I'm I'm lower on the quarterbacks
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: than maybe most of the field, and that's where I'll
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: get different.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I definitely like that I'm a little bit
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: over on a little bit more interested in the guy
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: like Gany Rodgers than you are. But take us in
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the running back range here. I think Derrick Henry's obviously
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: really good play. Gainwell's a really good pay play on paper,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: But just from an ownership standpoint, I mean, looking at
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: these projections, Kenneth Gainwell's projected significantly higher right almost thirteen,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: about two and a half half points higher right than
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a Jalen Warren for two hundred dollars less. I mean,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: this ownership is probably gonna be two and a half
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: times what Jalen Warren is. And if the game script
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: just flipps, I know, I get it right. Everybody looks
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: at the snap counts and sees week fifteen started declining sixteen,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a fifty fifty split. Last week
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: it was a seventy thirty split. Everybody sees that, and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: they're just so accustomed to what happened last week has
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to happen this week. And I mean, I just I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: will just take a chance, I think, and play some
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: more Jalen Warren than what the field's going to because
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I think, again, if this game just flips a little bit,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a nice little ownership discount there overall.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty interesting there because they played
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: these guys played in what week seventeen, sixteen fifteen, Week fourteen?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: These guys played, right, yeah, yeah, week fourteen, and you
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: look at week fourteen, it was a fifty to fifty
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: split there. Gamowall got twenty five snaps, Jalen Warren got
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: twenty six snaps. So I mean not to say that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: what happened in week whatever, right, a couple of weeks
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: ago when these guys played, it is gonna happen this time.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: But again, I just think the field is in ownership
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: will dictate that everybody's gonna be on Kenneth Gainwell, again,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: he's probably the better back in this type game environment.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: But how many times have we seen this right where
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: it just flips and at nine thousand dollars Jalen Warren,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I get it. The prices up there, and these guys
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: do take enough from each other. I'll just take a
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: take a shot on a loan guy like that. Keith Mitchell,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I think is fine in game scripts. I mean, they
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: do give this guy touches. Looking at last week in
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: terms of the staff count or the last couple of
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: weeks in terms of the snap count for this guy,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I mean he's getting about twenty percent of the stamps.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Last week, previous to that he was he was up
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: in that forty percent range. So not sure what to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: happen there. There's definitely some unknowing's there at four K.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: That is a big price point to pay. Looking at
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the rushing props here for this guy, Keithon Mitchell nineteen
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and a half, which isn't great. Kenneth Gainwell does have
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a thirty and a half prop, but Jalen Warren is
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: at forty six and a half. He's up there. Obviously
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Gainwell is much more involved in the receiving game. But yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: so for me, Derek Henry Jalen warrener are kind of
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: my two favorites than Kenneth Gainwell. And I'm not sure
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: how much Keith Mitchell I get to at four K
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: with the snaps kind of trended down last week. Not
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: really sure what to think of that, but the props
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: don't look very good there for Gainwell as well. Take
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: us over to the wide receiver range. Obviously no DK
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: metcalf here, so we're gonna have a lot of cheap
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: receivers and Thiland up as the most expensive at fifty
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: six hundred kelvin, Austen, Scantling and Scottie Miller talked about
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Austin's Scantling and Scotty Miller and even thieland they all
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: ran the routes from the outside. But again the Ravens
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: aren't great from the slot as well either. So it's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: really Scantling Scotty Miller on the outside dealing and kind
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: of dealing in the slot. And then Pat Pat Freierman
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: runs runs a lot from the slot as well. So
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I think all four of those are firmly in play
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: for me. But what do you see here from the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: wide receiver rooms.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: This reminds me a lot of the game last night
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: where you had a bunch of you know, no names
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: trying to catch passes outside of JSN. So tonight's JSN
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: if you will, as they Flowers, I'm certainly not comparing
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: those two, but he's clear cut the number one guy.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: And then you know the those receivers for the Steelers
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: just starting any good. I mean NBS was good five six,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: nine years ago with Green Bay, same with Feeling, I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: mean Scottie Miller, like, who is that?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I know?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I know he crushed the Packers souls when he was
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: on the Bucks a few years ago. Nads, but no,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: thank you there on any of these Steelers wide receivers.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Uh DeAndre Hopkins Like who is that?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not playing any of these people outside of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Zave Flowers.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're definitely gonna be different there because I'm gonna
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: be in on Scotty Miller and Vallas Scantley both Scotty Miller.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna play, especially in at Rogers type captain rails. Again,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Scotty Miller's running almost all of his routes on the outside.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Baltimore struggles on on the outside. He had twenty seven
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: routes from the outside six targets last week, did only
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: catch two of them. But still, I mean again, the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: opportunities are there. He's three K. Nobody's gonna click in.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's good. Scantling's good. The guy really don't
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: like too much as Adam Thielen, but he seems more
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: He seems like a Zay Flowers type piled obviously they're
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: not the same receiver, but he seems like a Jay
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Flowers type player. For three thousand, four thousand, dollars cheaper, right,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, just the PPR type guy, catch it, kind
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of fall down, not do too much. Obviously Flowers can
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: do more after the catch. But I mean at ownership,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: all these guys really aren't gonna get played Miller, Scantling, Austin,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and thieland so naturally I'm just gonna be over the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: field on those guys because nobody's gonna play these guys.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: More people are gonna DeAndre Hopkins at twenty eight hundred,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: where we know that Ravens just don't like to use
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: these wide receivers at all. Maybe Hopkins gets one shot
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: at the end zone something like that, but if the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: field's gonna play him at twenty eight hundred, give me
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Scotty Miller, give me Scantling for a little bit more, Kelvin, Austen,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and then DeLand obviously j Flowers. Great play by everyone
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: stretched there, so not much more to say on that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Tight ends, and then we'll do kickers and these to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: run us out of here. Tight ends. Obviously we're both
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: in on Mark Andrews. I think he's a really good play.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Isaiah likely is gonna get played as well. He's two
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars cheaper, which I think is a nice discount there.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Make any Mark Andrews team drop down to Isaiah Likely,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and you're unique there. You leave two thousand dollars on
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the table from a receiving prop standpoint, Mark Andrews sitting
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: at thirty and a half, Likely at twenty two and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a half, they're basically the same play fraction of the ownership.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty interesting. But what do you
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: see here at tight ends?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you about earlier.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Was Isaiah Likely?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: He out snapped Andrews pretty significant amount last week, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: like I said, they you know, they were grounded and
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: pounding it. So interesting your take on Likely. I think
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: he's a good pass catching tight end. Hasn't really done
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: much this year, had I think I had a good
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: game or two. But yeah, Friarmuth is probably my favorite
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: pass catcher from the Steelers. No Washington tonight, you said
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: it me Intego Connor. Hayward's more of a blocking guy,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they're gonna have to hit Friarmuth potentially John U.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think Andrew's Farmuth Likely and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: John who are in my playerpool than those other two,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't get to.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely so. Looking at week fourteen, likely ran
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: twenty two routes, Andrews ran thirty three, Week fifteen likely
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: ran ten, Andrews ran ten. Week sixteen likely ran twelve,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Andrews ran twelve, and then last week likely ran seventeen,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Andrews ran sixteen. So they're basically splitting the routes there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And if you're gonna give me the ownership discount, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I mean or the two case gallery savings there, which
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I think that savings alone is going to get them
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: probably played pretty similar to each other. I think both
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of them are are really good plays. And then I'm
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: with you Pat Fryarmuth really like him. A ton thirty
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: three hundred or about thirty thirty five percent in the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: flex I think's fine. Friar Muth at fifty two hundred,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I think is really really nice there. So I'm at
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the top end of these guys, just like you, Andrews,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: friarmth likely John new Smith I don't love a ton,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: but again he kind of fits that bill too much.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Prefer just taking a shot on those wide receivers in
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that range than John new Smith not really getting to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Takolar or Hayward too much, takes us over to the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: kickers and defenses. Here to round up the show here
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: looking at the at the kickers and d's if I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: can just click this on here, fifty four hundred for
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Boswell primetime Boswell at home, Right, I love me some
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Boswell at home, fifty four hundred. He's gonna be lower
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: own than Tyler Loop as well, which I do like.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I think boz Well fifty four hundred is really nice price.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You got to make a chance, got to make a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: decision these kickers or the tight ends, right, and I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: think Boswell, we've seen the ceiling that he has. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: like Boswell a ton Tyler Loup pretty solid kicker in
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: his own right. We know Harball is a donkey and
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: can just settle for field goals at times. Right. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: then these defenses are priced out forty six hundred for
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the Steelers, forty eight hundred for the Ravens. I mean
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: those price points. Nobody's going to really be playing these
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: defenses at those price points. I mean, because if you
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: look at those in that range, I mean they're priced
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: over the tight ends, like likely John new Smith that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: all those wide receivers for Pittsburgh. I mean, nobody's going
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to play the defenses by any means, and then the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: kickers are going to get at least held in check
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: because you got guys like Adam Thielen, Pat Fryer, Mooth
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Likely and Andrews all sandwiched around those kickers there. So
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: what do you see here? Kickers? Indeed?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know they call this AFC North
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: the Old Black and Blue Division. I mean I think
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it's a smash Maut type game.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of running.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I hate to go back to the
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: game last night, but it reminds me of that game.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Like two decent defenses. TJ's back. I like both defenses.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Tonight, and yeah you said it, I mean Boswell prom
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Tom Like it could be like fifteen degrees. That dude's
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: booting fifty yarders in Hinesfield. I feel like our actressher
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: field whatever they call it now. But yeah, I think
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: A low scoring affair.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So when I think it's gonna be a low scoring affair,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: defenses and kickers are certainly employeed.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I had to pick one, I would just
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: pick the Ravens defense over the Steelers defense. The reason
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I get it TJ Watts back and the Steelers defense
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: is better in general, but at half the ownership for
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: two hundred dollars more, I'll take a shot there, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: then I'll take Boswell over Loop. But I think all
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: four are interesting there. I'll definitely be playing all four,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I definitely prefer the Ravens defense and Chris
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Boswell as the two ones that I'm focused on there.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely like both kickers for sure. That's the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: entire slate here. Him, any any closing remarks before we
• 27:09
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• 27:13
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• 27:16
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• 27:20
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• 27:21
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• 27:24
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• 27:26
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• 27:28
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• 27:31
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• 28:11
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• 28:15
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• 28:17
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