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Almost Famous In Depth: Jason Tartick · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth.
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  Speaker 1: We're back for another in depth podcast. Now to get
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  Speaker 1: started today on remind everybody if you didn't listen to
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  Speaker 1: the last week's episode, that the almost Fumos podcast has
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  Speaker 1: started an Instagram page that will include all the content
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  Speaker 1: We're super pumped for it. But with that, let's go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and get started. Ashley, how are you doing. I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited about today's guest. I feel like this
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  Speaker 1: person has a lot of depth, so it'll be really
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  Speaker 1: easy to do an in depth episode on him. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. So actually, I want to give
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit of a story here before we
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  Speaker 1: get started. Uh, you knew this, but kind of when
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  Speaker 1: COVID hit um I've talked about it that I was
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  Speaker 1: experiencing a ton of envy and a ton of uh
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  Speaker 1: insecurity in my own life, and I, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was really having a hard time and I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have like an outlet for anybody within Bachelor Nation. Um,
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  Speaker 1: who was really one of the men to to to
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  Speaker 1: go to right away? Because I obviously talked to other
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  Speaker 1: bachelor's but sometimes like when you're like, hey, I I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like I have a lot going on. I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of struggling with my identity. There was like this
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  Speaker 1: little bit of like shame inside of me that didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to tell other bachelors about that, just because I
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  Speaker 1: was like trying to keep up with the Joneses. And
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  Speaker 1: I just happened to fall into conversation with Caitlin Bristow.
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  Speaker 1: Um somehow, I forget how, and she I was telling
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  Speaker 1: her this because I think she was feeling similar, and
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  Speaker 1: she goes, you need to talk to Jason, because Jason
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  Speaker 1: speaks so much truth to me, and I think he
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  Speaker 1: would want to speak truth to you too, And so
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  Speaker 1: I actually started texting Ajason uh. And and just let
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jason Tartick is the guest of the In
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  Speaker 1: Depth podcast this that this UH this episode, and he
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  Speaker 1: was incredible to me, like he does have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of depth and I want to take a second here
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  Speaker 1: and read through his bio. Uh. Jason Tartik is a speaker, investor,
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  Speaker 1: and founder of Restart, a consulting company, vlog That's vlog
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  Speaker 1: video you Know Thing and blogs centered around informational and
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  Speaker 1: inspirational niche life hacks. Prior to his stint in reality TV,
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  Speaker 1: Jason was a corporate banker. He earned his bachelor's degree
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  Speaker 1: in Business Administration from Sunny Genesseo and his NBA and
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  Speaker 1: Accounting and Finance from the University of Rochester. As a
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  Speaker 1: corporate banker, he executed over one hundred million of lending
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  Speaker 1: two companies he worked with which all earned over twenty
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  Speaker 1: million in revenue. Jason's business endeavors, coupled with his charismatic personality,
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  Speaker 1: has landed him co hosting opportunities on shows such as
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  Speaker 1: Live for Me E, Daily Pop, The Bachelor, and Yahoo Finance.
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  Speaker 1: And we all know that he's currently did in Caitlin
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  Speaker 1: Bristo and he normally resides in Nashville, but while she's
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  Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars that two of them are
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  Speaker 1: living in Los Angeles with their two dogs, So Infamous
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  Speaker 1: Dogs Rahman and Pino g Peino Andrew Grigio pinot g
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  Speaker 1: for you know the familiar to the podcast We welcome
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  Speaker 1: somebody that we are ecstatic to talk to. You know,
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  Speaker 1: for anybody out there listening, these in Death podcasts are
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  Speaker 1: hand chosen, you know. We we really take time to
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  Speaker 1: consider who we want to interview and how we want
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  Speaker 1: to interview them. We've had some great episodes in the
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  Speaker 1: past that you should go back and listen to. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're timeless. If you're a fan of the Bachelor franchise,
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  Speaker 1: they're evergreens for us. They're evergreens for us. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: believe this one is going to be one as well.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Almost Famous in Death Podcast. Jason Tartik.
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  Speaker 1: Hey eyes, how's it going up? Jason? How are you
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  Speaker 1: good doing well? It's good to see you guys. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't been on almost Almost Famous and like two years
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  Speaker 1: to stop that. Now it has not been two years.
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  Speaker 1: I actually feel like I can. I can think back.
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  Speaker 1: It's been since the I Heart Podcast Awards. Wasn't that January?
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  Speaker 1: So I beat you? Yeah that's right, Yeah we did
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  Speaker 1: that quick one. I forgot about. Yeah, I forgot about. Man.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild when you say two years to think that
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  Speaker 1: we've been doing this for like way over there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember the first time I came on your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I was so nervous. I'm like, oh my god, this
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  Speaker 1: is so cool. I swear I do. I remember. It
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  Speaker 1: was like and I was like yesterday and it was
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  Speaker 1: over two years ago, Like where's time gone? It's just flying, man,
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  Speaker 1: It's it is. Well, hey, thank you for coming on here. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this is always a big deal. It's always our most
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  Speaker 1: listened to episodes. Um, it's a big deal to our
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  Speaker 1: listeners that you would give up this much time just
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  Speaker 1: to tell tell us who you are. UM. I started,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to start here and then and then
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  Speaker 1: Ashley will dive in with some of the early questions.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. I just mentioned
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  Speaker 1: it in your intro. But um, a few months ago,
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  Speaker 1: I was really struggling with a lot of like just
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  Speaker 1: like wild thoughts, envy insecurity and whatever. And I somehow
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  Speaker 1: fell into conversation with Caitlin I forget where and how
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  Speaker 1: she goes you should talk to Jason. Um. And she
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  Speaker 1: just told me at that time how amazing you've been
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  Speaker 1: for her as a partner and as a confidante, and
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  Speaker 1: then how great you would be for me, And uh,
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  Speaker 1: you just sent me like one or two texts and
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  Speaker 1: and I I didn't get to really tell you in
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  Speaker 1: person yet, but yeah, thanks, thanks for just being a
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  Speaker 1: dude who uh, who's a smart guy who sees through
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  Speaker 1: it all and who also gets it um and then
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  Speaker 1: thanks for coming on here. It means a lot to us. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that really kind words. I do remember
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  Speaker 1: that too, when we had that text threat going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth, and it was there was some powerful messaging
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  Speaker 1: in there. But I think at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: with that stuff, it's just when you see people in
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  Speaker 1: your circles succeed and you're really genuinely happy for their success,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a it's a reflection on you. It's a
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  Speaker 1: reflection on them and their success will will it just
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  Speaker 1: bleeds energy into like a good way. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: that conversation then, and uh, yeah that was I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: we could be a part of that. And it's good
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  Speaker 1: to be back on the show and talk to both
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  Speaker 1: you guys. Let's get started actually taken away. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: we like to start out with your childhood. Uh, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about where you were. You born in Buffalo, New York.
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  Speaker 1: I was born in Buffalo, New York, and I wear
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  Speaker 1: that on my chest every day. So, like tell us
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  Speaker 1: about growing up in snowy cold Buffalo, New York. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you grew up with you grew within a Italian and
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  Speaker 1: a Jewish parent, and that was what my dad grew
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  Speaker 1: up with. And it's some It's a household that is
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  Speaker 1: full of food and feeding. Love is shown through food,
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  Speaker 1: and there's also a lot of passion in those relationships.
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  Speaker 1: So just like tell us briefly about how your childhood was, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there is a lot of passion. I think about my family.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I always think like modern family, right, I
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  Speaker 1: had gave brother growing up wish mother and then um,
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  Speaker 1: my father's Middle East areas a little Italian and he
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  Speaker 1: play's Catholic and so my mother's side to like from.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to get into politics, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, definitely my parents had different views, and it's
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  Speaker 1: interesting to be in a family where people have different
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  Speaker 1: views and have different sexual orientation and just grow up
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  Speaker 1: and be exposed to almost as much as I could
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  Speaker 1: have it, right, Like we would celebrate Hanaka and Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: And then my brother, like I was always playing sports
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  Speaker 1: growing up, and my brother just wasn't into sports. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, do things with my
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  Speaker 1: brother to still will have a really strong relationships. Like
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  Speaker 1: he would always come to my sports games, and he
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  Speaker 1: was big into magic. So what I would do is
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  Speaker 1: I would be his like his viewing audience before he
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  Speaker 1: would perform, and so I would always look for like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: how do you do the magic trick? And so it
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  Speaker 1: was this such a what I would say, well balanced
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  Speaker 1: childhood to be exposed to so much at different times.
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  Speaker 1: And I actually get I think about high school, I
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  Speaker 1: get a little like emotional think about it. Uh, just
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  Speaker 1: I could see you other times I was like the athlete,
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  Speaker 1: the jock, and I think about like my brother being
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  Speaker 1: picked on and and think about stuff like that, and
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  Speaker 1: you know that that's tough. Um, but he was such
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  Speaker 1: a strong individual and still is. And uh it was
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  Speaker 1: just a special time. So he's three years older than me,
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  Speaker 1: so like I was a friend. I just some bad
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  Speaker 1: memories just came top of mind. But you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I was a freshman on hockey varsity hockey team and
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  Speaker 1: varsity soccer team, and you know, he wasn't really into sports,
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  Speaker 1: so I was I'd always like see seniors and some
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  Speaker 1: of his classmates, and he listened. He was super well liked, popular,
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  Speaker 1: But you know, there's still it's a that's a tough
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  Speaker 1: time and a tough age um to be in, like
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  Speaker 1: the whole position of like coming out and um finding
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  Speaker 1: yourself in um you know at that age. So but
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  Speaker 1: and and and and more in a positive spin, the
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  Speaker 1: coolest thing about him isn't no matter what, he was
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  Speaker 1: just always himself. He was a leader amongst his peers.
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  Speaker 1: And he's grown into like such an awesome guy, happily married.
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  Speaker 1: And our relationship, while our differences and our interests and
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  Speaker 1: hobbies are so drastic, our relationship just continues to get stronger,
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  Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. I got I got two questions
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  Speaker 1: there to follow up on that. So how old was
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  Speaker 1: he when he officially came out to his peers into
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  Speaker 1: the family. So I think it was it was like
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  Speaker 1: summer of junior year going into senior year. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we sit in a time and politics are are
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  Speaker 1: never there are no win game here. But we send
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  Speaker 1: a time where there's a ton of isolation, divisiveness within
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  Speaker 1: most people somehow, some way, and growing up in a
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  Speaker 1: household that your your family did have different viewpoints. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: your brother and you didn't see things the same way.
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  Speaker 1: What lessons did you learned during that time that you
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  Speaker 1: see now? And and how did how did you see
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  Speaker 1: your family interact in the midst of all of this
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  Speaker 1: kind of I mean, I guess like disagreements. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just it's having What's so sad now with
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  Speaker 1: all the divisiveness is it is now emotionally it's so
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  Speaker 1: emotionally charged, as probably it should be. But unfortunately instead
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  Speaker 1: of like finding common ground, instead of explaining positions the
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  Speaker 1: way that I was always you know, um uh visible
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  Speaker 1: to like what my parents would do, it's become so
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  Speaker 1: CombatID and so emotional. And I think the problem is
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  Speaker 1: as things just won't get resolved when that's the case.
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  Speaker 1: And with my parents it was while they have different
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  Speaker 1: perspectives and they still do, it's always interesting to see
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  Speaker 1: the respect they have for one another and the way
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  Speaker 1: that they listen and communicate with each other. Right, it's
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  Speaker 1: not about winning the argument. It's not about talking louder,
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  Speaker 1: having an aggressive tone. It's about like really understanding both
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  Speaker 1: sides to see how a common ground can be made.
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  Speaker 1: And um, yeah, it's uh, I think it's helped me
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  Speaker 1: a lot with my communication style and also just conflict
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  Speaker 1: resolution right, which is huge in friendships, relationships, business, almost
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  Speaker 1: every aspect of life. To get a little lighter um.
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  Speaker 1: But I also totally I love what you're saying. Your
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  Speaker 1: brother you played a joke on him in kindergarten, or
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  Speaker 1: your brother pranked you in kindergarten, and then you told
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  Speaker 1: the teacher that one plus I mean two plus two
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  Speaker 1: equals five, and then the teacher called your parents tell
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  Speaker 1: us about this. Oh yeah, So my brother was always
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  Speaker 1: always really smart guy, brilliant guy, and always smarter than me,
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  Speaker 1: always fool males, the most gullable kid. So he tells
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  Speaker 1: me when I'm going to kindergarden, Jason, now listen, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell you that two plus two equals four. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna sound like the smartest guy in the classroom because
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna fall. You're not gonna fall for
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  Speaker 1: the trick. You fool them. Two plus two equals five.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, I got it, And what
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  Speaker 1: do you know. I go up to the teacher and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're gonna do the lessons two equals four.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's fine. Like with all the strength and
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  Speaker 1: power I could get together on my first day of
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  Speaker 1: kindergarten wearing a Barney shirt. But that's a whole different story.
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  Speaker 1: But that being said, I get the kindergarten teacher called
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  Speaker 1: my parents and it was like, you know, it's only
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  Speaker 1: the first day and we're having some struggles with Jason.
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  Speaker 1: He's very stern and his thinking mom and that like
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  Speaker 1: a sit down conversation with me. I was like, but
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  Speaker 1: that's what Stephen talked me, and I said, I will
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  Speaker 1: let them down to this day. That's for sure. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you were like a star athlete, as you've been saying,
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  Speaker 1: was there any moment that you were super awkward, that
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  Speaker 1: you were very uncomfortable in your skin? Yeah? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's think about that. It's okay if you're always cool.
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  Speaker 1: If you have to think about moments of you and
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  Speaker 1: I can't relate, well, I'm gonna couple it. I was
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  Speaker 1: like when I was a kid, I at that awkward
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  Speaker 1: stage and my parents put had those you know glasses, right,
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  Speaker 1: and they they put me in like respects and then
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  Speaker 1: the most ridiculous glasses that Caitlin still has her background.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I call now, and I was the most
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  Speaker 1: clumsy kid in the world, like I'll never forget. Ever.
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  Speaker 1: There's this girl that lived on our street. Name was Julius.
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  Speaker 1: She was the pretty girl and she was older, and
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  Speaker 1: she was outside on the front yard and I saw
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  Speaker 1: her and she put her hands out Jason like and
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  Speaker 1: like to give me a hug. So I ran outside
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  Speaker 1: full speed and on the grass there was I'll never
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  Speaker 1: forget this freaking rake. It was rake with a long
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  Speaker 1: rooted wooden like wee can handle. I stepped right on
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  Speaker 1: the leg nailed me in the face. I start crying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm bleeding. I didn't get my hug. That's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of guy I was running into parked cars. It took
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  Speaker 1: some time and then we we grew out of the
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  Speaker 1: Hey a little bit of a I just want to
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  Speaker 1: share a little bit of my history. Here very first
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  Speaker 1: day of kindergarten for me, Jason. My mom is filming
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  Speaker 1: me as I get off the bus. She's super super
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  Speaker 1: excited for this, and this video has me write a
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  Speaker 1: purple backpack and I'm running down the stairs of the
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  Speaker 1: bus and I'm so excited to see my mom and
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  Speaker 1: tell her about my first day of school. You see
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  Speaker 1: me miss the last two steps and fall flat on
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  Speaker 1: my face outside the bus, just full like face plant,
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  Speaker 1: arms spread, so so we can relate. We're good there. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: was was it this podcast that I told you my
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  Speaker 1: kindergarten story with the rake? I don't know. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: to combine a rake and kindergarten. When I was about
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  Speaker 1: to go into kindergarten, I asked my mom, Mom, when
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  Speaker 1: do we you go out and buy me a rake?
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  Speaker 1: And then she's like, why would you need a rake?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, because it's called kindergarten. Aren't we going
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  Speaker 1: to be gardening? It's incredible, so literal that's well. So Jason,
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  Speaker 1: obviously you you found success early on in life, though
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  Speaker 1: you did like the fact is you were an athlete
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  Speaker 1: that blossomed early. You were a part of the varsity
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  Speaker 1: hockey team, you were a captain of the soccer team. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I say this to say, like success and like you
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  Speaker 1: felt success early on in life, how has that translated
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  Speaker 1: to today? With the success you found is like a businessman, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a good question. I think one thing
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  Speaker 1: for me is when I was like looking into what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted out of my career, for me, it was
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  Speaker 1: always athletics, right, And the beautiful thing about athletics is
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  Speaker 1: what you put in is what you get out right
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  Speaker 1: when you work out and you do your runs and everything,
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  Speaker 1: you see the results. So for me, I always wanted
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  Speaker 1: a career that would allow for that, and so business
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  Speaker 1: development in sales was just that. But I also think
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  Speaker 1: you have to have just a career in life, you
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  Speaker 1: have to have like a sense of being grounded. Right.
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  Speaker 1: There's always going to be someone who's bigger, faster, stronger, taller,
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  Speaker 1: And if you're constantly benchmarking yourself against other people, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's only gonna lead to um deeper insecurities that
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  Speaker 1: are uncontrollable. And for me, it was like, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna focus on me, and when someone is better and
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  Speaker 1: taller and faster and stronger, I can learn from that person,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe I could befriend them, and you know, we
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  Speaker 1: can help one another. Is opposed to trying to be
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  Speaker 1: upset that I wasn't the number one score or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I've translated that um through athletics, through
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  Speaker 1: my career, and really through almost every aspect of life.
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  Speaker 1: Is like I need to wake up. I would like
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  Speaker 1: to wake up tomorrow better than I was today. That
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm not gonna have a terrible day,
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  Speaker 1: But if I'm not learning from that day so that
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  Speaker 1: history doesn't repeat itself, and in my position, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: growing as an individual. And those are some of the
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  Speaker 1: things I think about when I when I go back
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  Speaker 1: to the days of like travel, hockey and soccer and
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  Speaker 1: all of the college soccer and all that stuff into
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  Speaker 1: where I have such a practical and positive way of
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  Speaker 1: like of just setting your mind. How have you always
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  Speaker 1: been like that? Do you always? Are you one of
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  Speaker 1: those guys that is like I preach, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: teach what I cannot do. Like what how do you?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: How did you get that when you start forming that
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: positive mindset? Does that make sense? Yeah? I don't. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: think it's just like an early I think you have
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: one of two options in this crazy world we live
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: in that's only gotten crazier, especially this year. Is your
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: your outlook, just like the way that you perceive things.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And I can look at one situation and we can
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: have eighteen different opinions and perceptions of it. But to me,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: there's just only so much energy that we all have.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: And I honestly think about like a funnel, Like if
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I can take my negative energy from a tough situation
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and somehow funnel it into positive energy to do something
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: good with it, I think, Um, it's just gonna lead
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to more productivity and more happiness and just better energy
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: for you and the people you surround yourself with. And
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: so what I try and do is just take all
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the energy, good, bad and ugly, and like channel it
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and funnel it into something good to create a good outlet. Well,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you definitely are doing some great things. Uh, you're definitely
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: making an impact. Uh. It's awesome to hear about your
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: childhood and honestly didn't know the diversity that existed within
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: your family and the different mindsets. And it's a great
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: way to start a terrific in depth episode. Jason, we're
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: gonna pause here. When we come back, we're gonna walk
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: through your time on the Bachelorette and then moving into
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: what in the world you're doing now, which is a
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: lot uh, and maybe just maybe we'll touch on your partner,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristow. We'll be back with Jason tart I on
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the Almost Famous In Depth podcast. So before we get
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: into why you sign up for the Bachelorette. We like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to ask about your early on relationships. When was your
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: first girlfriend, first girlfriend that I could like friend grade.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: That's very early for a serious relationship. Oh, we were serious.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: We were making out, although we were making out at
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: this movie on the Animal with Rob. Yeah. I had
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: this crazy moment the other day. I interviewed Dana White
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: live and then after the interview, he went live with
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Rob Schneider, and Rob Schneider was like, I just saw
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you live with Jason Tarnik and he goes that guy,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what to talk about UFC. You could
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: tell that guy's never taking a punch. I don't think
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: he'd last. That's hilarious. I had the coolest moment with
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Rob Schneider. He's he's a really cool guy in real life.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Um okay, So you were like making out in seventh grade,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: meaning that you were one of those kids that was
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like so much further advanced that I was. That I
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: would be very nervous around them. I remember watching like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: eighth graders be like pinned against lockers making out with people,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I am so far away from
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: this big commitment. You know, we all moved in different phases.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Do you remember her name? Yes, your name was Amy?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: And how long were you with Amy? What did it
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: teach you about relationships? I was with her for about
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a year and I remember, like, I mean that, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: kind of serious at that time. And uh, I mean
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: what did that teach me about relationships? That you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: not everything is perfect and not everything works. Like I'm
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: so young, I had no idea what's going on. Amy's
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a sweet girl. Though she's doing just fine today, so
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: are you, Jason. She's but she's doing just fine. She's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: she's recovered from that breakup. So any other relationships leading
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: up to your time in the bachelreat that are we're
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: speaking of? Yeah, you know I had I had a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: very very SERI I mean to say that, but like
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it was was my high school sweetheart. Redated for like
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: four years, and then I was in a really serious
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: relationship to before the show for about four or four
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: and a half. So I was one of these guys
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: like when I was single, I was single and had
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a great time, but like when I dated, I commit,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Like I went all in two of those relationships for
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you know, a total of like eight and a half
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: years and then one of those, you know, I think,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I broke someone's heart and one of those
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: had my heart broken, So it kind of saw both
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: sides of it. But you know, I just think those
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: are the experience of like life that you gotta go
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: through because it just it shapes you as a person.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And that's the purpose of dating, right, Like people out
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: there that are anyone that's struggling and dating, Like the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: reason you date is so you can learn from each
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: dating in sperience. If you're not learning from it and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: coming out with a better understanding of like what you
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: need to be as a partner, what you need in
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a partner, then it's just I feel like you're wasting
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: everyone's time. And so both of those scenarios, Uh, those
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: people were for me. They weren't my my one and only,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: but learned a lot from them. Where were you in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: your life when you sign up for the Bachelor or
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was nominated? Yeah, So I did this charity auction though
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: it's a Bachelor Guilda's Club bachelor auction, and so I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: got sponsored by the bank to do it. And so
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you you come out and you dance, and it was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: actually like a formal thing that we're all in tuxedos.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: People bid on you to go on the date and
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: then they get this whole date package and every dollar
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: goes to Guild of this Club, which is UH charity
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: from Gilda Random who died of ovarian cancer. And it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: all to really like focus on helping families that are
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: undergoing someone in their family with treatment. And so that
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: night we raided. I think I raised like, I don't know.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: The date went off to like thirty three d bucks.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I was dancing like an idiot to old time rock
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and roll, and it's my understanding that recording got sent
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to a BBC. Now. That was March two thousand seventeen,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and then I moved to Seattle for a new job.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And I remember I remember Saturday night, I was I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: went out after and I was hungover. Sunday morning, I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: listened to my voicemail and it's an ABC producer saying, Hey,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I wanted to check in. We have this video you
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: from the Bachelor auction and nomination. Would you want to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be part of the show. Are you still single? If so,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: we just sent you an application And I get this application.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You guys know, they ask you what everything right? I mean,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: they want to know literally who your girlfriend Wasn't Savens great?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And so I thought it was like fraun, I'm like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: this is a killer game. You're gonna get if. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: had my mom looking up and she's like, that's a
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: legit producer. And so I was in Seattle at the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: time and said, you know what, it's twenty nine kind
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of the only thing I've done at this point is
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: chase my career. I've relocated seven, eight nine times, Like
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: why the hell not, Like, let's just give it a goal.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Let's rolling. Let's acknowledge the fact that you were being
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: auctioned off for a day before you were even on
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, Like people doesn't wanted to pay money to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: go on a date with Jason beforehand. That that's the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: kind of catch he is. He needed the confidence, though
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: we've just learned the guys struggled with success and confidence
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: his whole life. He needed that little boost good times.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And it's funny though about that story. I called my
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: best buddy and I was like, dude, you're never gonna
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: believe this call I got today. He's like, wait, You're
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: never gonna believe this call I got today. So my
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: best friend Hawk growing up. He got called the same
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: day I did for the back and so he went through. Yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: he went through the whole process. He went all the way.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: He went to New York, like that's like the regionals
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and they ended up not selecting him, but
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: at the irony of the fact that there was a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: date with Baccay in Richmond, Virginia and three of my
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: friends came in surprised me and he was one of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the guys. So we still talk about that to this day,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: like what if it would have been him, and like
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: how different things would be, and yeah, it's crazy how
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: life work. Was anyone in your family a big Bachelor fan.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: My mom is a huge basket. She's watched every season
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: since Trista's my dad, you know, he's kind of like indifferent,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: like he's like watching with your honey, but like I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: don't think he like absolutely loves it. And then my
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: brother has not He's like he doesn't know what the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: bachelors Now. He certainly does, but I was kind of
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: just in between. And my mom was so fissed when
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: she found out. She's like, wait a second, this is
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: my world, Like this is my escape with girlfriends, we
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: gossip about this. I don't have to listen to this,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and that this is my world, stay out of it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: And then I figured she's like, she's like, he'll go
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: home really like we'll be fine, and then she got
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: dragged the hometown. So that's another story. It's true though.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: It's funny how you're like some of my most loyal
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: friends to the Bachelor franchise. So people who have watched it,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: family who has watched it their whole lives. I almost
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: feel like I did ruin it for them, Like some
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of them don't watch anymore, not because there's any like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: insider information that you know, blows it up, but they've
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's the like fantasy of it all maybe
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: where like you watch it on TV, you can kind
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of judge and critique and say things you want, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: then when you know somebody's gone on it, then it
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like takes the fun away, Like there's no fantasy to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: it anymore. You know what it is, and it's not
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: that enjoyable to be a part of it. You've touched it, yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I mean hometown hero Ben becomes the freaking king of
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the franchise, Like I'm done with this, Yeah, but you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: were top three on becca season. So this I mean,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you go on the show, your mom doesn't think you're
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: gonna make it very far. She goes to hometowns with you.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: You make it to the top three on Becca's season,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and things ended in Thailand for you personally, and we
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: always like to talk about it. What was it like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to kind of heal from the breakup publicly, but also
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: what was it like to heal from the whole experience
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: going back to your family? Yeah, it's it's a healing process, right,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, you go everyone that comes out of that show,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you get your a little mentally jaded a little bit.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: You start to question things, and you know, you don't
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: realize you watched everything back and you start to see
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: how love they were with someone else, and then you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: start to question yourself like what's how did I not
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: see through that? How was I stuck in my own
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: little world? And um, you know, I think it's one
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: of these things that I just felt like I was
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: very like like at on the show a little bit,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I was like blindsided. So then you start you start
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: bringing that to like different aspects of your life and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you start thinking like, am I gonna get blindsided here
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: in future relationships. So for me, it was it was
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: a good experience. I learned a lot about myself. It
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was almost a therapeutic and the fact that I didn't
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: really ever talk about my feelings. I never really address
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: some of the things internally, and on that show you
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: have to. It's a crash course. So I think I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: came out of that show like so much of a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: stronger person and so much more like in touch with
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: with who I am as a person, like what I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: want out of life. So overall, the experience was great,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It really was. But you know, you guys all know this,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Like when you go through that breakup on the show,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it's brutal and then you gotta watch it all back
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and like, no, come on, I came again, So it's tough.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Your brother was I think the first and only um
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: gay sibling that we've seen in hometowns and he brought
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: his husband. How did that make you feel that you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: were able to bring it just to like show that
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: on The Bachelor? It was one of the more revolutionary
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: things we've seen in the past couple of years. Yeah,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I think it was unbelievable. Kudos to ABC for for
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: showcasing that in such a normal fashion. Right. There wasn't
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: attention to it. It was right. It was just two
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: people that are married and happy and the story, you know.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And I guess what my concern was as we see
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: all the you know, the trolls all over the internet, like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: what would the viewing population of the batchelor have to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: say about this? How would Twitter get you know, how
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: would they be? And honestly it was there was so
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: much support from the whole bachelor community, um, which was
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: which was really I loved the fact that during that episode,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: it was like, this is my brother and his husband,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and and there was nothing else brought up. There was
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: never like you're going to meet my gay brother. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even like a conversation point, which was fantastic,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and I think that's that's how it should be. It
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: reminds me we talked a little bit about my childhood.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Reminds me of the story, and I'll never forget it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: It was and it didn't click until later on. But
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I was in like sixth grade, and you have six
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: or seventh grade. My brother could drive. I couldn't, and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: so I needed a ride to the rink. So I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: told my brother five bucks, I'll give you five bucks
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: right like, I'm negotiating with up and he's like, okay, fine,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'll do it. So he drives me the rink. We're talking,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: we're talking. I remember one of my friend's sister. There
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: were these rumors that she was a lesbian, and so
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I was just like kind of even learning what all
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that meant. And so I asked, I said, I know
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: your friends with her, you know she like I asked
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that she lesbian, and never forget, he looked at me,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: he thought about He looked at me. He's like, Jay said,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: question back for you, like if she was? You know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: at this time, I had no idea if he was
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: gay or not, or I didn't really know what that meant, honestly,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and he said, what if she was with that matter?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And I just remember thinking for I was like in
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the air. So the first time I was ever like
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: asked that question, and we're pulling up to the rink.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I said, no, if she's happy, that's all that matters,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I guess, and he's like, yeah, okay, well I'm not
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: really sure where she stands, but yeah, I was just interested,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and I go out to take my wallet and I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: have five bucks. I like, here you go, thanks for
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the ride. He goes, No, don't worry about it. This
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: is free. And so I always wondering, I'm like, wow,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: why didn't you give me a free ride? And then
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: like years later I'm like, oh my god, right, like
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it all it all clicked right, he was clear. I mean,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: obviously the story tells has a lot of meeting there,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's uh, it's I mean, I just can't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: underestimate for you personally, like how big of a benefit
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it was to have him in your life. Because for me,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about it here recently, just with
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: all the changes and the confusion and everything going on,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: like how much of it I feel like I'm catching
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: up on and I'm learning as I go, and I'm
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: uneducated on because I've never been exposed to it or
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I've never um had to confront some of these things.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: For you to have somebody so close to you that
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you care about, that you trust, who is gay, who
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: can help walk you through that, like, I mean that
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that's just incredible. Yeah, I mean to have some of
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the yeah that has just different perspectives and can challenge
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the way you think and um, you know, and to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: learn all all all this at a young age from
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: someone who's like very insightful, intelligent is and I think
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: it's just rounded me and it's been Uh, it's awesome
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and really it's special. You guys had a really strong
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: friendship between Becca's top four. Obviously Garrett and Becca just
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: broke up, and just wondering if you've talked to him,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: if you talked to her. Yes, so I haven't talked
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to um Gary. It much like just like little things
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like you might comment on something or that you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: like I haven't. I haven't talked to Garrett. Um. Actually
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: we saw and spend time with Becca last night. Bacca
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: was so sweet. You wanted to do something special for
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Caitlin for her first show, and so she surprised her
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: with a few of her friends. And actually Chris and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Lauren stopped by and put this little nice little orders
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and wine and stuff last night with a great time.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you could tell like we we got it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: We talked a lot about it, and um, you know
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: what the tough part about that is, like you watched
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: it all back and then I spent time with both
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of them after the show, and we were all friends
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and they were like genuinely like they were really in love.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: They were really in love. So, um, it's it's sad
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: to see, especially back back is such a you guys,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: such an amazing person, and to see her have to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: go through that twice right to engagements not on her
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: favor is is tough. But you know what I think
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: she's in. She seems like she's in a gray place
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and she's she's moving forward and she's not looking for
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: people to date right now. But do you have anybody
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: from the Bachelor or off camera that you would set
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: back up with? Oh, that is a good question. Um,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: imagine if her and Blake got back together, Like that's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: seriously like I don't see it happening, but like imagine
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: what a like full circle love story that would be.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Who could I see? That's actually really good answer. You
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: can keep rainstorming. I'll keep brainstorming. But I think I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: could see that, I could see that maybe there was
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, I don't think he's gonna get
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: mad at me for ings, Like I know he was
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: legitimately heartbroken. Like that's like when you get off the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: show sometimes like you'll meet the guys and they'll be like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, now I'm onto the next like I'm just
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: gonna go do my thing. Like Blake really felt that relationship,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: so not a bad idea. Yeah, I mean he was
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: good friendly. Blake and I are good friends. And he
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: was struggle right, I mean like he was for a while.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So hey, maybe he's got it out of his system.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: He's ready, you know who knows? Well. That brings up
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: a good point because you know, getting off of a
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: show is always a unique experience and everybody forms these
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: amazing friendships while they're on the show, but then it fades,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of times you see seasons where people
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: come off and they're the closest at close can be
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and then give it two years, people have gone their
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: separate ways. Your season was unique, and I think it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: one that everybody identifies. Where you're top four and even
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: further on, like you can go down the list, have
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: stayed close? Is there an actual closeness amongst you all?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And if so, what do you think has helped can
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: keep that going? And if not, like why why? Like
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: what what happens to allow people to go there? On
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the other you know, their own separate ways? Yeah, I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: think of like the top four, Blake and I are
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: certainly the closest of those guys and still are to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: this day. I think, Um, you go through this crazy experience, right,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: life changing experience, and no one, no one can relate
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to your parents, can't relate to your best friends, can't
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: relate to your siblings, and so the only people that
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: could really totally get it. And that's why I think,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like the final fourth thing we became so close is
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: because we all went through this life changing things and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: we're trying to figure it all out. We're dealing you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the first time you'll never forget. You get your d
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: M where people's being people are being so mean, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you're like, who do I talk to about this? I
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: think it creates such a natural connection. And then what
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: happens is life happens, right, You start to see kind
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: of what happens under this world, and and I think
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of character comes out in people and like
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: what they do and how they do it. And then additionally,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you know, people become in different relationships and life moves
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on and they go in different directions. So I think
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: it's natural for those relationships to fade. But it's still
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: really cool the relationships that stay strong. Blake and I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: are still really good buddies, and it was even like
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: last night when I'm hanging out with Caitlin and Beck
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: at Tilly and beck a crew friend. They're all such
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: good friends. And it is interesting to see, like within
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the franchise, which friendships really last and then which friendships
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: fizzle away. Which seems that most fizzle away once the
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: initial spark is kind of deteriorated or gone out. If
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I think you said that, well, like there's there's that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: family aspect to the Bachelor world and and I think
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it exists long term with those who wanted to write
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: like you know, it's it has to be intentional because
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: everybody gets super crazy and life changes so quickly. But
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you know, going back to the beginning of this podcast,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you only have a few people that can relate,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and you only have a few people that can speak
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: truth into you, and you know, for me asking out
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: of you, and then you know others as well, like
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that becomes a really special bond that I I do
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: believe could last a lifetime. And that's and that's something incredible.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt there will be friends in the franchise.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: You know, if I think about like Kayla and I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: his wedding, and I picture it like the will be
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: people from the franchise and our wedding. Uh, you know
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you guys will be there, and like that's what a
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: cool thing like life. There's so many detours in life,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and there's so many new relationships that are had because
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of you know, uh, taking change as an opportunity as
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: opposed to like a deterrent, and it's just pretty it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: pretty cool the way at all. And there are some
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: relationships that will have for sure. For Alec. Yeah, we
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: just did a guest list our wedding and yeah you
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: made the cup, but it is you know, it made me.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Jess and I were just together this week and we
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: were talking through the guest list and making it and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: it doesn't like almost does you know, get get emotional
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and like, wow, this crazy thing that I did because
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: somebody signed me up or I signed myself up and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I dated and I got heartbroken and all these stories
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that come from the franchise and then the end of
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: it years later, we still stand with people that we
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: want to be with us on the day that we
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that is our celebration, the only time that everybody that
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: we love will be in one room. Um, it's cool
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: to see Jason. Let's pause again here. When we come back,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about your current relationship, your current
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: business endeavors, and where these all of these things are going.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: We'll be back with Jason Tartik on the In Depth podcast. So, Jason,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: coming off of Becca's season, those four of you top
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: four that got so close, you also were like all
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: running to be the Batchel, all in a running to
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: be the bachelorette, except for Garrett of course, the bachelor.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: The bachelor to be the patchelor. Um. Was there a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: lot of competition between you guys for that role or
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: were you really just supportive of each other. I think
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: it was. I think it was friendly competition, but also
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: sort of like I think we all made a pact
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like whatever happens, we got each other's back and we'll
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: be happy for that person. At the same time, like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: everyone was angling, right, like everyone was trying. I feel
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like everyone wanted it. Between Blake, Colton and I, we
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: all wanted to be the bath and I think we
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: all kind of angled in different ways. Um, But the
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: interesting thing is like we had a group chat and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: we were talking about like exactly where we stood. So
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I remember one of the first times, like Blake was
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: flown in early to l a way before Colton and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I and we're like, oh, it's gonna be Blake. It's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be Blake. And then you know, they go through
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the whole process where you gotta get your fingerprints and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: your blood, all the due diligence they should do, and
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: then you know, I a roommate of mine from college
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I hadn't talked to you in like ten years, called
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I just got a call. They're doing
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: like back the actually called those roommates oh oh, and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the questions were like he was like bad. They were
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: getting in the leeds with the questions, like they want
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: everything about you. And so then I would do, hey, guys,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I just got my call, and you know, Colton would
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: be like, well, I just you know, I just got
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: my call. And so it came out of the wire.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: It was a Sunday night, I think it was right
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: before Labor Day weekend. They we got a tax from
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: other producers saying hey, we are going to call you
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: guys in the next ten minutes. Oh yeah, it's just
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: right from the first call, I was like, you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm sorry, and I'm like, But the funny
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: part about this is I don't remember this. Jason, so
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Blake and Colton were both out in Denver at the time.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: You were, I think in Seattle. Um. I they were
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: over at my house the night I think before. It
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: was a Saturday night. They came over to the house
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: for drinks. I think, Yeah, they knew that they're gonna
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: get a call pretty soon. The funny part is once
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: each of them left the room, both of them were convinced.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: It was then that it was going to be the bachelor.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Were you convinced it was gonna be you? And no point?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I think? I mean, I I really didn't. I was convinced.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be Blake. To be honest,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: that that was gonna be Blake. Um. It was interesting
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: talking to those guys, like about their interviews and stuff like,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and Colton even like I remember him telling us,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I should have thought of that. He
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: went in and he was like, listen, Blake and Jason
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: are great guys and they're both good friends of mine,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and you'll get a really good love story, I think
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: from both of them, but he sold himself. He's like,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but if you want a good show, you gotta put
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: on a show. You'll go with me. I'm like, damn,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that's a pitch. That's the infamous pitch. And so I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: mean that's how open we were with each other. We
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: told each other like everything that was going on, and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: so I genuinely thought it was gonna be Blake. Blake
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be me and it was cold. Yeah,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: that's wild. No, I do remember that time. That was
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: a That was a fun time to sit and watch
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: because I've been through it. But your stories were different
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and you're all friends, which is unique. Uh. That experience
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: was one that I really remember walking through so well.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I remember the producers were communicating with us one on one.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Then they quickly learned that we had a group chat,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, you know, let's just get a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: group before let who will be the next past. I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: gotta go find that chat, Jason. This would be the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: time where I tell you, if you don't want to
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: answer this question, you don't have to. But is there
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: anything you want to say about what Colton is going
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: through right now. Yeah, okay, just how to throw it
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: out there so I can tell people it was thrown
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: out there. We can keep positioning it like that. Okay,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: so you didn't go on Paradise. Did they give you
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: a strong enough inkling that you would be in the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: running to become the Bachelor and then therefore you decided
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: not to go on Paradise? Yeah, so I did. The
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: funny thing about Paradise is I started the contract, I
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: got the blood to go past obviously send the contracts,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: was ready to go, and then I talked to my
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: boss about it, and my boss is like, listen, we
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: let you go on the show. Because I went right
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: back to the work, like the day you do this one,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's not going Like I've talked to the people at
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the top, I'm not gonna work out your time room.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: So that was a big reason why I didn't go.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: The second thing is like, honestly, like when I sat back,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I was just being real with myself. I talked to
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: people that I thought would provide good insight. I was
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: going on that show. The reason I signed the concert,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the reason I was gonna go, is because I wanted
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: to be on it. Like I'm like, oh, let's get
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: let's do another TV show, Like that's fine. I knew
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that there was I knew I wasn't in a position
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: to find someone I didn't like. Based on what I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: was hearing who was going. I didn't think there would
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: be any fits. So at the end of the day,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going. I mean, such a cliche thing.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Got going for the right reasons, but I was not
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: going at all for the right reasons. So it was
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a last minute thing that I said. Guys, I'm sorry
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I lead you on because I said I was going
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: to go, and I've signed the contract, but I didn't go.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And looking back at it, if you asked me, do
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I think if I went it would have helped my
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: chances potentially being the Bachelor, I think my answer is
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: like easy, I don't think. I don't think me going
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: or not going at anything to do with that. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: think you fall. I think you I don't think I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: think you're with the right person. Now, I want to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: preface this statement with that, I think you're this is
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: an awesome relationship. I think Jason, you would have had
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: a hard time not falling pretty strongly for somebody in
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Paradise because I feel like that you're I feel like
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: that environment is your lane, interesting, super social, very much
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: of a of a group environment where people lean on
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: each other for insight. I think the women would would
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: watch you and be like, wow, Jason is honest, he's truthful,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: He's loved by everybody here, and like, I just like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: talking to him, and he's super good looking. Oh I
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: think I met my husband. Man. I remember, to be honest,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I I just mentioned I called the group of people.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: You were one of the five six guys. I called
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: because one of the producers suggested, Hey, why don't you
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: here's some people in the franchise. I think that could
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: give a good perspective. And so you kind of you
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: actually out there if you were, like, dude, just go
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: like why not you already you already did Batchel Right,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: it didn't work out, you did great, like go give
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it a shot. Um. So I remember thinking about it,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: but you know, kinds, I think it was the right
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: decision and get like you said, it all works out
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: for the right reason that me not be in the Batchelor,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: were not going on Paradise because I'm with the beauty
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: of all beauties, right, So you didn't. You didn't go
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: on Paradise because of work. It had nothing to do
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: with the fact that they were considering you for Bachelor. Nothing. Again,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: they did me any type of inclination that if I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: go on The Bachelor or a Paradise it would help
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: me or hurt me. So they didn't give me anything.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: And honestly, looking back on it, I I genuinely believe
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that with the whole like Ta plot, that they knew
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: when Colton was going on Paradise that he was going
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: to be right. I mean, I think it was all
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: set up at that point that we were back ups.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Now look at back out. All right, Well shall we
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: discuss the moment that you met Caitlin Burstow. Yes, let's
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: talking about so she was in when you met. Was
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: she single or was she was she single and hadn't
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: really come out about their breakup or was she still
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: with Sewan? So my understanding, I remember, like because I
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: knew I was gonna podcast with her, so like kind
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: of yeah podcasting, and everyone was talking about the fact
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that they had broken up but hadn't like anything to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: come out. I had no inclining other than the fact
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that when I walked in the podcast. She was. I
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: gave her a big hug right when I first saw her,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and she's like, sorry, it was it was great. I
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: remember feeling that anager like that was anyway. She was crying,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: um so, and and I could I kind of want
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to stay out of it. Olivia was there, but obviously
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: that's really kind of I wouldn't say eavesdropping. With her
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: talking in front of me, it could quickly connect the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: dots that have had something to do with her relationship.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't ask any questions. I didn't look into it
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: at all, but obviously, you know, if I'm being completely honest,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: you take you take mental notes. Okay, you you've heard
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: they're really gonna she's crying, you know, you can kind
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: of hear something. So um, I didn't really know, and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't ask. I was like, I'm not that's what
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get get into that, you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: into the weeds there. Then you left the podcast, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: how do things play out? Walk us through the story? Yeah,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: so leave the podcast and just like you know, I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: walked away like whoa, I was blowing the web bay.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: It's like yeah, like I felt a ton of chemistry
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: and I was like our band tour was great, and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I walked on the corner called one of my best players.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Actually the same guy Hawk who was going to be
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: on the show was on the show. Yeah, I called
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Hawk and I jog I like Hawk, And then I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: called my mom and I joke Brown like yeah, I
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: think I just met my future one and they were
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: like yeah, and and so that was kind of like
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: being facetious and I just she's awesome and all this stuff.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we just like, you know, she'd like send
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: me some like here's the photos, you know, like if
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: you wanted to post about it. And then there was
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: like a couple like jim jab chirps and like little
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: things here. I thought it was flirty. I don't know
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: if it's Caitlin flirting or not, but it just was
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: like I was getting I could tell I was getting
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: like broz oh. I was like I was like a
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: little bro like, oh, it's funny. Yeah, And so yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: then I think it went you know, friend zone for
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: a while and then a little flirty, and then um
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: went on our first date and it was awesome, and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: it's it's been it's been just a hell of a
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: ride since then. So let's get this straight. You guys
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: are kind of like not really texting, but count of
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: texting your friends. You're close enough friends where you're like,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: this is my close girl friend who I'm gonna tell
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: that I'm going on a date with this girl to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: see what she thinks. Like you, you have other motives.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out where she stands, but the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: context is not awkward to like, you know, if I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: was the text Caitlin right now, say say for me, like,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I consider Caitlin a friend, um, like, it
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: would be a little weird for me to text Caitlin
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Bay Hey, I got I mean, I guess I'm engaged,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: but like, hey, if I was single, like, hey, I'm
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: going on this date, what do you think? Like that
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: would throw her off. I think she'd be like, why
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: are you asking me? So you're yeah, yeah, yeah, so
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I think yeah. It was like until I create a bridge,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: like yeah, there was like just like some friendly banter
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: here and there, right, so like we're here and there,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and then I think it was like that week specifically,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: there was a little bit more banter. Right, It was
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: like picking up a little bit and so I was
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: like just feeling it out so it wasn't like a
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: curve ball, wouldn't be the equivalent of you texting kay
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: then blue right, like we're taxed a little bit, but
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: kind of friend zone obviously like single whatever, and yeah,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that's just like it. That's that's how it all went down.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: At this point, did you know that she was single
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: for sure? Yeah? Well so yeah, so she announced it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I think she announced it not too long after a podcast,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: like they had the formal post and someone we have
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to like real check that. Um, but it was like,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: well I think it was late October, early November, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: so at this time for sure that she was that
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: she was single. But but like even even when like
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: like there was like a little flirting, like after that point,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I could still like obviously she you know, she just
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: came off this long relationship. Now they broke up. My
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: understanding as it was, they were done well before the
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: back date like right, um, so yeah that was that.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Let's uh, I want to dive into this if you
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: don't mind in a little bit, um so just you know,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: let us know. But what is it like to walk
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: into that scenario now? Obviously now we see Caitlin and Jason,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: like that's who we associate with. But this is a
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: public breakup and there's a lot of scrutiny, and there's
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of comments, and there's a lot of opinion,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: and you're stepping in on the back into that to
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: a relationship that obviously something that you both want to
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: see work. How what how is that for you? Yeah?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good question. I think, um, probably
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: like a little and like I guess, so we're how
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I praise that, I would say, it's just I think
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: that's a lot, Like it was a lot, right, Like
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited about meeting this new person, and for me,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I'm such a chapter's clothes in a new chapter opens
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and you put the history behind you and move forward.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And so I was so excited about what was to come.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: But I think I think with that, like you then realize,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: you know, she she just recently, you know, not too
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: long ago, got out of this relationship, and um, you
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: know they were like they were all loved couple, right,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that's another top like people love them and um, so
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, no, here comes me and like
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: early on, yeah, last scrutiny, like you know, you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: and you see stuff like you know, you fall like
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with this girl, and still like
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: through that time of falling in love, you're seeing like
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: people be like, well, you know, giving your comments or
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: don't like trying to compare your relationship first previous relationship
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and previous relationships and like that. You know, it's it's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: um Sometimes could be like disheartening or challenging, but for me,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: it was like everything I didn't I didn't worry about it.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. That was the past and
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. And uh, you know, without
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that past, without these weird aparances in life, like we
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: hear and I wouldn't be here, We wouldn't have had
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the chance to meet, We wouldn't have you know, had
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: a relationship blossom, right, So um, yeah, it's it's The
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: crazy thing is like it seems like you know, we
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: all date and you have you have excess. We all
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: have with all the excess. But it also is tough
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: in the bachelor world because when you have accesses from
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the bachelor world, it's always talked about all of them
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and you're like, when is the chapter Cloe, Like, how
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: long does it take for chapters? The clue will ever club. Well,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: you know, so it's I think that's one of the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: tough things about being in the Bachelor world is that
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: your history and the relationships are always brought right and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: then on top of it, you're like, Okay, we are
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: in love, things are perfect, and then you get these
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: curveballs where they're like, we're gonna re air your whole
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: season so we can bring up anything back to the surface.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: And for me, I'm something like, you know, chapter closed,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: let's let's go to the next one. And you know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: but it is what it is, like, it's it's the
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: world that we live in, and our relationships in our
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: past on the show especially, are are part of who
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: we are and why we are where we are. But
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: you guys handled that re airing really awesome. Caitlin was
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: on the couch with your mom drinking wine. Like I
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be so traumatic, but like she
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: just made such a joke out of it, which was awesome. Yeah,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I even said to kid. I'm like, hey,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: like maybe it was my mom's six years birthday, so
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, do we have to like can we could
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: you watch it before? And now you get the steps
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: of four and then maybe we don't have to like
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: bring it up. I didn't know how like what it
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: would be. Like my mom's like, oh, hell no, we're
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: getting the bottle of wine. We're watching, And then my
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: dad and I were just like drinking beers, playing poker downstairs.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: We'd pop up every little bit, you know, if you're
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like, oh, there's bet she's making
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: out with your mom. Bachelor super fan has you know
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: her son's girlfriend being like queen of the franchise, Caitlin Bristow.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: That must be so cool for her. Yeah, uh that
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: they had a blast. They had a great time with it.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: And then you know, it is what it is, and um, yeah,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: it's just it's part of it's part of who she is,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: and it is what it is. It's all good. It's
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: it's a weird world, man, it's a weird world. You're
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: thinking about this the other day, you know, like Becca
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: is Becca Kay is reaching out to be because we're
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: trying to with Caitlin. I'm like, here, I am surprising
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: the girl I currently love with a girl I did love,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: and we're all like friends. It's awesome. It makes no sense.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense. But I don't know, it's just
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: like it is what it is, like we're yeah, we're friends.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Let's backtrack for a second and go back to your
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: first date with Caitlin, the first time that you were like, okay,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: we're not just friends. Uh huh yeah. Oh yeah. So
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: our first date, um yeah it was. I was like again,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: like super nervous about it. And I remember the first
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: place we went to, um there was we kept getting
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like we're sitting in a weird place, and we kept
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: getting like a lot of like weird looks and stuff.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: And I remember one person like had their phone out
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and was taking like a video and I just felt
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. So like the first thirty minutes of our
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: date did not go well and it didn't go up
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: because I was just like, hey, I'm here, like this
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: isn't It was at a place. It was in Denver.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: It was at a Mexican restaurant, like a modern Mexican
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: restaurant in Denver. Um And I'm sure you would know
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: of it if I remember the name, because we were
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: with Brandy and yes, that's it, that's it. Boom nailed it.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: And so we left there. When we left there, we
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: went to like a super chill. Um, Eric loves this place.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Then it's like a whiskey bar. It's got like wood everywhere,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: super chill will okay, And there we got to have
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a really good kid station. And then we went to
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: holl at the Moon and we were dancing and singing
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and we just had the best time. And so I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: was supposed to leave early Sunday to get back to
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Seattle for work, and I actually didn't because um, I
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: actually didn't because um we stayed for the Denver Nuggets game.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So I we extended our date and it was it
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: was awesome. I think we saw each other like the
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: next weekend and next weekend after that, and the momentum
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: built and it was it was great. It was awesome.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: And now you live together, fast fast forward and now
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: you've been in Nashville together for about a year. Um,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: obviously you're in l A at this point with Caitlin.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: How you know, how has this chapter been for you?
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Living together with your dogs who are equally as popular
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: as you and Caitlin and equally as beautiful. How how
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: is the chapter of living together been? The living together
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: chapter has been awesome. It's been everything I can imagine
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: we've I think we've our relationship is grown to such
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: a next level and the dogs are awesome. We just
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: have this amazing little family and it's it's just such
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: a blessing. Like I love my life, I love her,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I love these dogs. I love everything about it. And
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I think if you talk about the lesson, I think
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: like in quarantine, there's definitely like some lessons we have, right,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I mean that's like a crash course, and just because
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: we're traveling so much, like even living together like such
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: a great adjustment growing as a couple, but then you're
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: with each other. It's twenty four seven, and I think
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: like it was like a it was like a roller
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: coach that started down. Like the first few weeks it
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: was like it was I think it was tough for
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: for us in quarantine, but we what was nice is
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: like accelerated life. It was like the conversations we had
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: in that first three weeks of quarantine, we're probably conversations
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: would have had over like four months, I guess if
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you will, just because of of like you know, you're
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: with each other and everything. And after like the first
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: few weeks which was kind of tough, our relationship grew
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: in like such an amazing, amazing level, and so it's been, uh,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: it's just been so cool. And this new chapter in
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: l A has been awesome too. Very different. So it's obviously,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you know, completely like it's just very different in the
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: fact that we have two fifty pound dogs who are
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: young and crazy in this like, oh like eight hundred
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: square foot place in a high rise. One of our
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: dogs has figured it out, the other one's not botty
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: trains and being all over the place. And uh. And
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: the one thing I'll say about Dancing with the Stars,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: great show. It's awesome. I never realized the work that
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: these people, and it is physically just exhost. I mean,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I see her feet, she has she has blisters everywhere
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: she has. Her feet are so swollen, and she's wearing
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: eyes bigger than she normally wears. Like so when she
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: gets home, it's like icing and you know, let's get
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you know, get the legs elevated and compressed and all
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the stuff you're supposed to do. I mean, it's a
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: it's a physical and mental like really enduring show. It's tough, tough,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: but she's doing she's doing so great. You've always been
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: her best cheerleader. I love how supportive you are and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: how vocal you are about her and your love for her.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: And she calls this chapter, um, the dancing with this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: chart Stars chapter, her last hurrah before she wants to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: have kids. I'm assuming that you guys have to, you know,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: talked about this, perhaps those first couple of weeks of quarantine.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Are you involved in this at all? We're wondering, I'm
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: involved in this. We're on the same page, on the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: same page, Um, we want two kids and quarantine. We
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: actually have funny we have one of our kids name's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Big Toler. That's normal, Like, uh so, yeah, we're on
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: the same beautiful so that an't coming like that stament
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't come as a shock to you because I think
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: for us, as we read it and we talk about it,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: it's not shocking. It's like it's actually really really like
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: we talked on the podcast, like, it's really sweet. Right,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: This is Caitlin, Caitlin doing what she loves to do,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: doing what she does well, with her teammate by her side,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: and you this feels like the perfect last hurrah. But
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: it is still shocking because she's been up to so
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: much and she's been in the in the front of
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: the spotlight for so long? Are you both? How do
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: you both feel about this next chapter? Knowing that this
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: for her at least, is it's kind of her goodbye
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to the grind. Yeah, I mean I think that Caitlin.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Caitlin says that, but she's so she's such a motivated person,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: you know, like she she just gets up and every
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: day just kicks ass, and so regardless of what it
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: is she's doing, she's gonna do it a thousand percent
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: at just a level that's just so strong, right, So
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: not worrying this completely. Well, but my point is that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: if that next chapter is what it will be us
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: having kids, like, she's just gonna be the most badass
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: mother ever. Knowing her, she's just so committed to everything
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: she does and passionate, and like knowing her, she'll probably
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: like who knows, like the sky's a limb with her,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: everything she manifest comes to fruition, which is insane. She'll
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: probably like create some crazy like baby toy that people
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: haven't thought about it. It'll like blow up to be
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: the next bit who goes. But she just she could
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: say it's her last rob She'll she'll never She's just
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: her mind and energy just keeps going. So whatever that
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: next chapter is, sh likes everything, She'll crush it. So
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. Well, you have a chapter that I want
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: to lean into a bit here, because yes, your relationship
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: is amazing and it's it's in the spotlight and it's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: something that's been fun to watch. But you've been fun
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: to watch. I am a follower of Restart. I follow
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: the Instagram. I watched the videos. Um, you know you
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: did go from being an investment banking to switching careers.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Now pretty out there listening tell them what I mean.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: You can pitch it better than I can. What are
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you up to? And where do you hope this goes? Yeah,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: So with Restart, right, you look at every all the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: metrics going on in the country right, one point six
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: trillion dollars student debt. Forty five million Americans are buried
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: with student debt. The r O I I'm I'm going
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: to college right now as a mass is negative. Consumer
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: and credit card debt has ever been so high. Unemployment
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: obviously because of the pandemic eight At one point twenty
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: million Americans were unemployed. Now even if you scratch that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: and you do a survey of Americans and their job satisfaction.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: It's at the lowest levels it's ever been. So the
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: most important things in our life right the way we
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: manage our finance, our personal lives, and professional lives. There's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of distress and whatever. What I call is
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: this blueprint to society that has been instilled on us
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: by previous generations, which in my opinion, is really just
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: sparked from large corporations putting a molden place for us
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: to adhere to because it benefit it's they're great or good.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work right. We have found that obviously there's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: areas of it works, but this blueprint is not successful
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: for most people. And so the idea with restart is
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: whether it's financially, personally or professionally, looking to restart, what
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: you're doing, how you're doing it, the approach to doing it.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Um that's a place that we have created this Instagram page,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: and the idea behind it is we're doing a few things.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: We have a weekly newsletter that comes out every Monday,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: and so that is called you need to know there's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: so much bias in media these days that this is
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: just unbiased. All the high level things for people that
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: don't get into the weeds and news, but they should
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: know going into the week. So we have a weekly newsletter.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: We have interviews with prominent individuals who have achieved a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: ton of success. But people like Dana White, Barbara Corker,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: and Damon john Ryan Sir and Chef m Barrel, Shawan Johnson,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Bela Twins. We've had a great group of people. I'm
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: not focused on where they are now. I'm focused on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: how they got there and the lessons that you can
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: learn at the change changes that these people experience within
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: like they're eighteen, they're eighteen to like thirty year old
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: time frame, and the way that they pivoted and use
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: changes an opportunity to achieve where they are today. It's incredible,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and so let's learn from these people. So we're doing
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: these restart Real talks. And then I just signed a
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: book deal with Harper Collins. One book is gonna be
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: all about restarting from hiring the firing your career. The
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: other one's all about personal finance. So I'm writing that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: and we just have a lot of exciting stuff and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: it's all the lessons that every individual needs to know.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: That's just not taught in a textbook. It's not taught
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: in the classroom. How long has this been going on?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: So I literally started this in March. So what what
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: what Spark did is right pandemic. It's an absolute disaster.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: This SMP five d and the Dow Jones's watching the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: market every day is plumbering. It's on the headline of everything.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And so I just put a poll out there to people.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I said, be honest with me, like if I asked
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: you to describe the SMP five hundred Dow Jones and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: three sentences, could you do it? And I think I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: forgot the statistic, but around two people answered it and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: it was of the people said they couldn't do it.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, we gotta bridge this gap here.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And then what I started learning as I'm getting all
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: these messages, how do I ask for a raise if
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I want to leave my job? Is my resume in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: the right shape? What does my LinkedIn profile look like?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: You know? All cost of living adjustments, all these things
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: started like coming in NonStop, and I'm like, we got
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: to create something. And so I built a team and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: we've created Restart and it's been uh, it's been awesome. Yeah,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of we're we're about to create
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: a launch of membership right now, which is exciting. And
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: then also and in the midst of talking about a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: potential podcast here. So it's, um, it's been great, it's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: been great. It's an impactful which is which is really cool.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: And the other thing then I'll stop because I get
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: excited about it as you can tell that it's within
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: the realm of like what I've what I know, you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: know I've done. I've been in finance since my grandfather
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: taught me to invest when I was, you know, in
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: my teens, and so it's it's the Bachelor gave me
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: this cool platform, but I'm still using my NBA and
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: my work experience to try and do things within my
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: realm that's just very to me, seems impactful. So it's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: been it's been really rewarding. So you're definitely not sitting
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: around the house board Paul Caitlin is at rehearsal, You're
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: doing all this, Yeah, so restarts one of them. I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: invest in businesses, like there's a company that I've invested
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: in called Evoke and we have musically and we're er stores.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: So I do a lot of investing in businesses on
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the private side, um that you might not see on Instagram.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I do some real estate investing in lending. Um. The
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Restart thing is on Instagram. I live with every day
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: through that, so those are things you see. But yeah,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I've I love any in all areas of business and
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: try to get involved in many capacities that I can.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I also love the way that restart and everything that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: you talk about finance wise on your social media is
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: is able to be digested by somebody who it does
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: not have any sort of expertise in the field, Like
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about, but normally I wouldn't
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: know what my accountant was talking about exactly. And I
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people just in today's world, they
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: try and use like their education or skill set is
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: a means of like almost like condescending behavior or a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: way to lever up. And for me, it's like what
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: bit is that. Let's just break this down in the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: way that's digestible. People have their expertise in so many
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: different areas, and if it's not finance or career navigation,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: which are two critical things in everyone's life, let's break
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: it down to understand it, right, So simple things like
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: SMP let's just simple five D big companies, right, they
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: give us an idea of what the whole market looks like.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: So let's break down. It's kind of like when you
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: go to the doctor and they or the hospital and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: they take your finals. They got to know a baseline
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: of what's going on, so they'll get your blood pressure right,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: your temperature, stuff like that. That's what SMP five is.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: It just gives us a baseline of what's happening overall
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: in the market. And when you break it down to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: things that are understandable, people are like, Oh, that's not
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that hard. I get it. It's not rocket science. You're
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: made for this, man, You're made for this. You're this Uh,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: this feels like something that you you're passionate about obviously,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: but then it fits right. It's it's fun to see
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor at to all of the things that have
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: happened in between their lead up to this moment where
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: you have a platform you can talk about something you
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: care about and share it with the world and break
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: it down. So it's helpful to the world as well,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: and you're not just showing off because you know more
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: and that was a tip I remember, Ben, you gave me.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Right when I got off the show, I talked to you.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: One of the things you said is let this platform,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: let this experience, not change who you are, not change
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: your life, but let it. I think the word was
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: you said, enhance your life and let it enhance you
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: what you're doing. And I think that to me, that's
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: exactly right. I'm not running off to go strive be
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: an actor. I'm just doing letting this experience try to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: enhance UM in my life and what I'm trying to do.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: So where can people follow you at when it comes
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: to restart, Like what are ways that the listeners can
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: get involved? And and where the newsletter? You sign up
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: through Instagram? Yes, so if you go to restart Underscore reset,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: that's our Instagram. Then we also have YouTube restart with
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Jay and Tarctic, and there you can sign up for
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: the newsletter UM. Just put first name, last name email
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: and it comes every Monday morning. And then via the
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: newsletter when we have affiliations and the membership and some
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: of our cool announcements that are coming up, they'll all
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: be through that appenue. So I have one request, Yes,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: let's hear can you do a video on options trade? Absolutely,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: we can. Please, thank you. I appreciate that. I'm I'm
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to to to trade some
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: options and I could use Jason as my teacher. Let's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: do it, all right, buddy, you're the man. Hey, uh, Jason,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. We're gonna take one last
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: break and when we come back with you, we're gonna
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: let Ashley shine in her like this is where Ashley's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: passion comes out. She's so good at this. We'll be
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: back with Jason Tartich on the In Depth podcast. It's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: time for rapid Fire with me and Jason. Jason. Jason, Jason,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: what is your favorite? Spades and Sparrows wine the pen
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: you are? It just came out. It's incredible, unbelievable for
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: those of you guys who don't know. Space and Sparrows
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: is Caitlin's Wineline. What is a musical that you would
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: want to have a role in most Cambleton every day
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: of the week? And I want because we know you've
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: been singing it on your Instagram. But you like musicals
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: in general, right? Your brothers really into them? Yeah? So
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: he he's part owner of a marketing company and they
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: do all the advertising for the big shows. And so yeah,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: it's been it's been fun to go see. But they're
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: they're hurting right now Broadway in New York. They're hurting
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: in a big way. So hopefully they rebounded and make
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: a big comeback. Yeah, the dancer on Dancing with the Stars,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: you'd be most threatened by if they were partnered with
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: katend such a good question, I mean, and all honestly,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be real, it's gotta be Glenn. I mean,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Glenn is an absolute stud. I've gotten messages like watch
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: out for Glenbie looks like you. I mean, I'm not saying,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying people have said. And then the other
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: thing is I met him. I had dinner with him
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: the other night. And he's got a great personality, super
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: super nice, charismatic, funny guys, very threatening Kio. That guy
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: can move. He's got this unbelievable accent. Beauty of a man.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Those are those are two studs right there. What is
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: your favorite part about Upstate New York? The people? Yeah,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: it's not you know that, it's uh, it's the most thriving,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: you know, area in the world. But the people are
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: just so great. There's no no substitute to good neighbors.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: And Upstate New York's got him. What's your favorite food?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Favorite food? It's it's super boring answer. But being from Buffalo,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with chicken wings, so every city I go
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: to them always. For some reason, people can't cook chicken wings.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I don't care why, but I'll always like if I
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: go to a different city, I gotta try their chicken wings.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: So are you a ranch or a blue cheese different?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: The easiest question ever. It's blue cheese every day at
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: a week for wings. You want to put ranch on
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: the other stuff I get, like, maybe your pizza, that's fine,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: but it's blue cheese. It's it's he's a traditionalist. Your
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: favorite Bills Mafia story you've experienced, like the favorite your
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: fair Bills Mafia moment. Here's my favorite Bills story and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: it relates to a guy from the Bachelor. So I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: get Dean to we get Monday night tickets when they're
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: playing the Patriots Bills versus Patriots, and we get access
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: to the owner's suite. Right, So it's Monday night football
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: and we get access to the owner of the Buffalo Bills,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: like this is the dream come true. Well, I'm white
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Dean and I'm like Blake, but I tell them, like, guys,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: it's like it's all business. And there they owned the team,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: like this is this is work. So you're gonna get
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: drunk and have fun. Go get drunk and have fun.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: But you tighten it up once we get in there. Well,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: they got drunk and they had fun. And I'll never
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: forget this image of like Dean and Blake jumping into
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: the crowd of like a hundred people screaming he like
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: drinking beer like fully in it. So then we get
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: out of there, we go, We're on our way. A
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: boy's tightening. My parents were with us too, were like,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: let's go get it together. Well, we walk it, and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I explained to him, like this is the owner, you know,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: say thank you guy walking And the first thing Dean
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: does he goes right up to the owner of the
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and she's wearing a blue and blue kind
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: of like this, a little lighter sweater that's one of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: the bill's colors. And he says, oh, it's so nice
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: to see you. I love I love your l a
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Dodgers blue color. Sweater you had on for the bills,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: like like, who is this guy? Oh? And then you
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: know what happened. Somehow Edvan got it. Kevin from the batch.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I mean this is like batch for Evan here, he
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: got it. He's a huge Patriots fan. Spirit of Patriots Jersey.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: You don't go into an owner's suite with the other team.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: You don't write, you know, the Coca Cola headquarters rocking.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: It's a no note. And so at that point, like
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: she did, she's so sweet the owner. She wouldn't ever
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: make a big deal about it. One of the security
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: peoples like what are you doing? Everyone got kicked out
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: and that was that Ellie Dodgers Blue and the freaking
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Patriots Jersey. So she did not think that Patriots at
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: the Powder Blue was a funny little chirp. Yeah, that's no.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: It's one time time. The only person who doesn't give
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: into Dean's baby blues and that smile, right, that's true.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I mean Dean is very charismatic, charming man, but he
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: pulled this one off. Don't bring Dean to any nice party.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I once went to a party with Dean with the
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: owner of My Heart, and it was like the real
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: viby setting. They had the lights off and it was
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: like kind of like candlelit. It was really nice party.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Dean walked in and turned on all the lights the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: whole party, like literally flip the flip the light switches
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: on everybody. I mean there's probably a hundred people in there, Like,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: just don't do it. Not a good idea that being
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the best, like such a fun, great guy, but maybe
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: just pick and choose the parties. Great freaking guy though.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Love Two more questions. What's the money question you get
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: asked most often on Instagram. Number one question is where
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: should I invest my money? The number one answer to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: that is, let's first talk about your debt. The amount
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: of people that I see you are so worried about
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: trying to find the next investment. You look at their
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: debt profile, whether it's suiting debt, credit card debt, mortgage debt,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and usually what I've seen so far is there's a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: monster amount of debt. And the idea here is first
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: paid down your debt, especially credit card debt where people
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: are getting charged, it's unlikely you'll make an investment. If
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: you do, good for you, that's a great investment. So
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: pay down your expensive debt first, then start worrying about investing.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: People are contrarily believed let's invest first, even then when
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: they're strapped and buried with that fantastic answer, What is
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: one thing about Caitlin that over the past year living
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: with her, you've been like, you do this and I
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: just don't get it, Like I don't understand why or
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: when you do this. Um, let's see. Though she has
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: this weird thing about chewing. It's like, it's so I
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: have that too, Like I just yeah, when somebody when
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Jared's chewing next to me, I'm like, hook, you're still
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: attracted to him. You're like, you just have to remember
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: that that's the person you love. Literally che and she'll
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: give me this look. I'm like, my mouth is closed.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I'm freaking eating. I'm a human. We have to eat.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: And so like I couldn't get over for sensitivity to
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: like misoponia, and I'm like, oh my god, But yeah,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: that's good. That's one, all right, I get I get it. Jason,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: You're out of the hot seat. Rapid fires over. This
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: is the end of the podcast and we like to
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: throw it to our guests and so here for the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: next minute thirty seconds, three minutes, whatever you need. We
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: have listeners out there who are going to be super
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: engaged to your story. UM, and fans of you personally.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: What do you want to say to them? This is
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: your time, your platform, your moment to say whatever you
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: want to close this thing out. Um. Wow, there's so
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: many directions I can go here, So what else say is?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: And I think just in general and in life like,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: there are so many things out there that can that
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: can trigger insecurities or make people have doubt, And there
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: are so many people that are fearful when someone succeeds,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: And there's so many people that are gonna tell you
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: your ideas don't make sense, it won't work out. That's
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: a chance you're going to regret. Most people don't want
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: to see others succeed. And what I would challenge anyone
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: out there is to live the life that you always
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: imagine instead of living the life that others are leading
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: for you. A good friend of mine is a motivational speaker,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Ben Empton, and he did a case study and it
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: was through it was through a prestigious college, and seventy
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: six percent of people on their deathbed, I think is
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: another seventy six regret not what they did over their life,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: but what they didn't do. So I think spread happiness,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: be kind to others, and don't worry about people judging you.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Be yourself, go live the dream you imagine, and if
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're leading a life, it's time to
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: make a change. And change is not a bad thing.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Change is a good thing. Without change, we wouldn't progress
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: the way we've progressed. We've come a long way, we
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: have a long way to go. But all I would
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: say is like, break the traditional blueprint of thinking and
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: just lead. Lead the life you always imagine. You literally
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: get one, and it's so precious. That's what Jason Tartick,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: You're the man. Thanks for coming on. It's been a
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: it's been a blast. It's good to get to talk
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: to you again. Your story is awesome. Keep up the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: good work once again. Follow Jason on Instagram and make
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: sure you go follow Restart on Instagram and YouTube. Now, Jason,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: this is the hardest part of the podcast for you.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Follow Ashley and Eyes lead. This has been Jason Tartik
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: on the In Depth podcast. I've been been, I've been Ashley,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I've been Jason. Oh, he did it. It's because he's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: been on the podcast so many times. Smart guy, We'll
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: see you next time. Guys. Follow the Benn and Ashley
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• 1:20:41
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