Latest / The Paul Barron Crypto Show / A Universal Exchange Coming To U.S. Soon?🚀BitGet CEO Gracy Chen INTERVIEW
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Today, let's dive into a little bit about what a
- 0:02Speaker 1: universal exchange is going to look like. And this is
- 0:06Speaker 1: a new concept because we're starting to see a lot
- 0:08Speaker 1: of movement around twenty four to seven trading.
- 0:11Speaker 2: I want to dive a little bit deeper.
- 0:12Speaker 1: We're going to do that with Gracie Chen, who is
- 0:14Speaker 1: the CEO of Bitget, joining me on the show.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Gracie, how are you.
- 0:20Speaker 3: I'm good, Hi, Thank you for having me.
- 0:22Speaker 2: So, Gracie.
- 0:23Speaker 1: First of all, let's get into a little bit about
- 0:25Speaker 1: what Bigget is doing. A lot of new things that
- 0:27Speaker 1: you guys are launching, but also this whole new strategy
- 0:31Speaker 1: that you guys have developed around the universal exchange kind
- 0:35Speaker 1: of the super app component. First of all, if you
- 0:38Speaker 1: can explain that to me and our audience.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Sure you.
- 0:43Speaker 4: Yes, that's for universe exchange, and that's the short term
- 0:46Speaker 4: that we keep using.
- 0:48Speaker 3: While this term com comes from.
- 0:50Speaker 4: The idea of generally people divide crypto exchanges previously into
- 0:55Speaker 4: either CX or DX, so just change or distrust change.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Of course, these two forms still exist, but intween twenty five,
- 1:03Speaker 4: there are a few trends that we saw and we
- 1:06Speaker 4: were also capturing those trends. The first trend is the
- 1:10Speaker 4: integration of DS and CX. So I think in April
- 1:14Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, which is about a year ago, we
- 1:17Speaker 4: integrated our untainability to the CX experience so that people
- 1:22Speaker 4: can just put in their contract any any cryptocurrency, just
- 1:27Speaker 4: put in the contract address of that cryptocurrency and then
- 1:30Speaker 4: they can start trading it on CX. So that's one
- 1:35Speaker 4: trend that we've observed. And the second trend that that
- 1:38Speaker 4: that emerged in twenty twenty five, that and that's becoming
- 1:42Speaker 4: more and more obvious UH right now into twenty six,
- 1:46Speaker 4: which is the rise of r w as tokenize the
- 1:50Speaker 4: US docs tokenize the many assets. That's just the trend,
- 1:56Speaker 4: not just exchanges or crypto native exchanges like US are
- 2:00Speaker 4: capturing capturing that. We also saw an I s C
- 2:04Speaker 4: and NASDAC did announcement around tokenizing all their US stocks
- 2:10Speaker 4: that's available on their platform and provide twenty for five
- 2:13Speaker 4: or twenty four seven crypto UH crypto sort of experience
- 2:18Speaker 4: to their UH to their stocks users. And of course
- 2:22Speaker 4: we are also in discussing with them around potential collaboration.
- 2:28Speaker 4: But basically the rise of our w A S and
- 2:31Speaker 4: the more different traditional assets like gold, oil, stocks, right,
- 2:38Speaker 4: even for X. That that's the need that our users
- 2:42Speaker 4: are also looking forward to. So based on these two
- 2:48Speaker 4: trends around asset coverage, we realize calling ourselves a CX
- 2:52Speaker 4: is not accurate anymore. Uh So we came up with
- 2:55Speaker 4: a term of UX and that means we want universal
- 2:59Speaker 4: as coverage.
- 3:01Speaker 3: You can stand for universal.
- 3:02Speaker 4: On the other hand, you can also stand for USDT
- 3:05Speaker 4: USDC kind of stable point, because that's just another trend
- 3:09Speaker 4: will want to capture. I think there will be more
- 3:10Speaker 4: people who use stable coin for of course payment, especially
- 3:14Speaker 4: across border transaction, but also for trading, use USDT or
- 3:19Speaker 4: USDC the sort of stable coin to buy or trade generally,
- 3:25Speaker 4: you know, globally universal and valuable assets again like stocks
- 3:29Speaker 4: and the currency bcoin theorem solana, as well as of
- 3:34Speaker 4: for X and some commodities like gold and silver.
- 3:38Speaker 2: All Right, so.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Several things there I wanted to kind of drill in on.
- 3:42Speaker 1: First of all, twenty four to seven. This is kind
- 3:43Speaker 1: of the new table stakes for a lot of companies
- 3:47Speaker 1: who are trying to go to market when you look
- 3:49Speaker 1: at liquidity and execution. I now, you guys have recently
- 3:53Speaker 1: launched paifi explain to me first of all, when first
- 3:58Speaker 1: of all, how do you guys manage the can because
- 4:00Speaker 1: this seems like you've got a lot of ores in
- 4:02Speaker 1: the water.
- 4:03Speaker 2: How do you guys get through this?
- 4:05Speaker 4: In terms of US stock, by the way, because we
- 4:07Speaker 4: offer many different asset classes, each individual assets is very different.
- 4:12Speaker 4: That's why I wanted to clarify whether we are talk
- 4:15Speaker 4: about talking about stocks or US docs or tokenized U
- 4:18Speaker 4: s doocks in general that if that's this is the
- 4:21Speaker 4: focus now. In terms of tokenized US stocks, the major
- 4:25Speaker 4: two players in the market right now are Undo and xdox,
- 4:30Speaker 4: and we are collaborating with both of them. Angdo has
- 4:34Speaker 4: a bigger market share and hence a bigger market share
- 4:38Speaker 4: on biguette, So we are there not one of the
- 4:41Speaker 4: largest distributor, we are their largest distributor in terms of
- 4:45Speaker 4: the collaboration with Anglo. So back to your question execution wise,
- 4:50Speaker 4: So right now in April twenty twenty six, we are
- 4:55Speaker 4: still integrating.
- 4:57Speaker 3: More like just a distributor.
- 4:59Speaker 4: In terms of tokenized U stocks. We're not issuing our
- 5:01Speaker 4: own US token as US stocks, but that doesn't mean.
- 5:04Speaker 3: We don't plan to.
- 5:05Speaker 4: We are in discussed in discussion and have certain plans
- 5:10Speaker 4: around that, but generally right now we collaborate with undoing
- 5:14Speaker 4: X stocks and offer them and then in terms of
- 5:16Speaker 4: liquidity twenty four five or twenty four seven by the way,
- 5:21Speaker 4: for the token at US stocks right now, uh, if
- 5:24Speaker 4: it's a spot market rather than US stocks futures, we
- 5:29Speaker 4: do only offer them in twenty four.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Five and even Okay, so that's how you're doing it
- 5:34Speaker 1: with ONDO because they are twenty four to five. That's
- 5:36Speaker 1: what I was getting at that liquidity.
- 5:39Speaker 4: Also not just ADO in terms of liquidity, but also
- 5:42Speaker 4: for some for example with the Blue Ocean ATS, it's
- 5:46Speaker 4: it's the largest off exchange platform basically when the US
- 5:51Speaker 4: market is not open when it's for example, in Asia
- 5:56Speaker 4: trading ours like the US time zone as Eastern time
- 6:01Speaker 4: zone Saturday Sunday evening to to Thursday evening actually Sunday morning. Anyway,
- 6:10Speaker 4: you can you can specifics around that, but basically when
- 6:13Speaker 4: when it's the Asia time zones. Blue Ocean is another
- 6:17Speaker 4: large affix change platform that we have equidity partnership with,
- 6:22Speaker 4: so we do in terms of a distributor, we do
- 6:27Speaker 4: look for liquidity around everywhere to give our user the
- 6:32Speaker 4: best liquidity that is available in the market, but we
- 6:35Speaker 4: don't do marketmaker maker ourselves. We're also talking to We
- 6:41Speaker 4: actually have enabled already some crypto specific market makers to
- 6:46Speaker 4: do liquidity.
- 6:48Speaker 3: And on our platform.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's all sort of liquidity providers coming from
- 6:53Speaker 4: the market, from from Anglo, from a traditional financial market
- 6:58Speaker 4: like Blue Ocean, uh, from a crypto native mms who
- 7:03Speaker 4: are interested in r WS.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the AI differentiator, because
- 7:10Speaker 1: this is something that you guys have integrated here recently.
- 7:13Speaker 2: But can you give some examples.
- 7:15Speaker 1: So let's say, in terms of deploying an AI agent
- 7:18Speaker 1: today within BIGAT versus what you could have done maybe
- 7:23Speaker 1: six months ago, is there any major moves forward that
- 7:26Speaker 1: you guys have done.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.
- 7:28Speaker 4: So in terms of AI agent in the world of
- 7:31Speaker 4: trading or cryptodrea trading in general, one key thing that
- 7:36Speaker 4: we are thinking about is not just a chat but
- 7:40Speaker 4: not just like advisory sort of service that you can
- 7:44Speaker 4: chat with an AI but also execution, but also enabling
- 7:50Speaker 4: AI agents to do trading on behalf of their owner
- 7:55Speaker 4: or at least help their their whoever created that AI
- 8:00Speaker 4: agent to make smarter traits. So from just you know,
- 8:06Speaker 4: answering questions. Answering and asking questions to execution is really
- 8:10Speaker 4: really key. And then in terms of how our users
- 8:16Speaker 4: are using AI agent in different scenarios today, we have
- 8:21Speaker 4: already provided something called get agent very early like last year,
- 8:26Speaker 4: but with open claw and more AI agent tools coming out,
- 8:31Speaker 4: we actually think get agent might be more of a
- 8:36Speaker 4: past ten scenario, although it is still being used by
- 8:40Speaker 4: many of our users today. But being able to give
- 8:46Speaker 4: that you give that ability to more users in more
- 8:50Speaker 4: scenarios is our new focus. What I mean by that
- 8:54Speaker 4: is get agent. Actually I would highly recommend our users
- 9:00Speaker 4: to try a new feature called get claw that's just
- 9:05Speaker 4: launched a few weeks ago, but only yesterday we have
- 9:08Speaker 4: launched the second version which has the trading ability, So
- 9:12Speaker 4: trading the ability only became available yesterday. And then that
- 9:17Speaker 4: can help users to trade on any platform, not just
- 9:21Speaker 4: within Bigot. People can connect that to for example Telegram
- 9:25Speaker 4: and putting your Telegram U, I D and then start
- 9:28Speaker 4: trading on Telegram. You can just use use tg and
- 9:32Speaker 4: ask your UH basically like open clau. So we are
- 9:35Speaker 4: building that on the on top of open claw. But
- 9:38Speaker 4: what's the different how how that is different from our users?
- 9:43Speaker 4: You know, starting from scratch and building their own trading
- 9:46Speaker 4: tool that we've already integrated sixty plus different skills on
- 9:52Speaker 4: off ramp, placing, placing orders on certain analysis.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Et cetera. Click.
- 10:00Speaker 4: So so this this part, yeah, this is called get
- 10:05Speaker 4: claw and that's the more strategic shift of our platform
- 10:12Speaker 4: in terms of going forward. We think we're just like
- 10:16Speaker 4: building on all the new tools for our users to use,
- 10:21Speaker 4: and get claw is the newest step.
- 10:25Speaker 1: So you get it in telegram chat. Looks like one
- 10:27Speaker 1: command you can accumulate bitcoin on dips. I like this
- 10:31Speaker 1: deep sleep and precise dips, so you can really kind
- 10:34Speaker 1: of flex it out there. Uh, this will be unique
- 10:37Speaker 1: to watch. I'm intrigued with this because we've started to
- 10:40Speaker 1: play with this a little bit even within our own
- 10:42Speaker 1: organization of using some of the the open claw stuff,
- 10:46Speaker 1: so it is fairly effective. So seeing this in a.
- 10:52Speaker 2: New exchange is going to be interesting for sure.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the regulatory lineup that
- 10:58Speaker 1: is happening right now.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Granted here in.
- 11:00Speaker 1: The US, we've got clarity hopefully going through here in
- 11:03Speaker 1: a little bit a lot of heated discussion here in
- 11:06Speaker 1: the US around that you've got Mica already in line
- 11:10Speaker 1: in the EU. When you look at the strategy for BIGAD,
- 11:16Speaker 1: are you guys preparing to kind of go to a
- 11:19Speaker 1: multi operational two tiered mode or is this something that
- 11:24Speaker 1: you think is going to come together globally.
- 11:27Speaker 4: Right now, it's more on the first term that you use,
- 11:31Speaker 4: by the way, multi or two layer sort of operation.
- 11:38Speaker 4: GLOBALBIGE dot com remains the global website, and then we
- 11:43Speaker 4: have individual websites in different juristications for example EU, which
- 11:50Speaker 4: well because we are applying for the still applying for
- 11:53Speaker 4: the mega license and you should be on the final
- 11:56Speaker 4: stage and hopefully be we are able to acquire it
- 12:00Speaker 4: in Q two this this year, which is like like
- 12:03Speaker 4: this quarter and once that's that's that license is UH
- 12:08Speaker 4: is on our hands. We want to launch paget a
- 12:11Speaker 4: EU and UH by the way, it's not the specific website,
- 12:15Speaker 4: but it's basically in terms of structure that we want
- 12:18Speaker 4: to work on and we have been already working on
- 12:23Speaker 4: that for a year because it's not just about license
- 12:26Speaker 4: or compliance, it's also about the specific product offerings, about language,
- 12:32Speaker 4: about the structure and order book. Everything is different from
- 12:36Speaker 4: the global website. So that's the EU part, and then
- 12:40Speaker 4: us part. Similarly, we are acquiring uh E EU is more,
- 12:45Speaker 4: it is faster, uh you US is is the second
- 12:48Speaker 4: coming up big jurisdications that we are aiming to launch
- 12:52Speaker 4: a website end of this year. Uh And actually right
- 12:55Speaker 4: now I'm in discussion with a lot of US partners.
- 12:58Speaker 4: I'm actually leading that stratgy around around how to provide
- 13:04Speaker 4: at least spot market to our US customers.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Do you think that's coming end of this year?
- 13:11Speaker 4: Our goal is to launched the end of this year,
- 13:14Speaker 4: if not at least the second or the first half
- 13:16Speaker 4: of next year.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Obviously being a top three that would really open up
- 13:24Speaker 1: a market for you in terms of growth, we have a.
- 13:28Speaker 4: Slightly more uh more realistic expectation, uh and US has been.
- 13:35Speaker 4: Of course, US is a big market and everyone wants
- 13:38Speaker 4: to enter it. But from our point of view, we've
- 13:42Speaker 4: looked at this market for a few years and we've
- 13:44Speaker 4: talked to a lot of partners. We've observed it for
- 13:48Speaker 4: a while, and I think the because the competition is
- 13:51Speaker 4: just too big. There are Track five competitors like Rubbing Truit.
- 13:56Speaker 4: There are also crypto native competitors like coin based Cracket,
- 14:00Speaker 4: So so entering US market doesn't mean you know, we
- 14:04Speaker 4: can immediately get a lot of users. I do have
- 14:08Speaker 4: a very realistic expectation around user accessors, market strategies and
- 14:14Speaker 4: and what's the revenue and how long we can hit
- 14:19Speaker 4: hit a profit. We do have like maybe two three
- 14:22Speaker 4: years plan ahead, rather than you know, highly expected Okay,
- 14:27Speaker 4: I'm going to win this market on day one, which.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Is just impossible. So US is. And also we've never
- 14:35Speaker 3: you we've never.
- 14:37Speaker 4: Served the US market for the past few years, so
- 14:40Speaker 4: that's another trick. Unlike you We've had We've had a
- 14:43Speaker 4: lot of European users. Uh, even our teams based in
- 14:48Speaker 4: EU in different different drayistfications and they have a lot
- 14:51Speaker 4: of partners and users already, so migrating them to the
- 14:55Speaker 4: EU fully compliant website is much easier than entering the
- 15:00Speaker 4: US market.
- 15:01Speaker 3: So that's a huge difference there.
- 15:02Speaker 4: But in general, I will say this is a trend
- 15:06Speaker 4: that I observe among top maybe top five crypto exchanges
- 15:10Speaker 4: around the world, including US that for example, you saw
- 15:14Speaker 4: okay X got the investment from from I C E
- 15:18Speaker 4: and I s C mother company on twenty five billion
- 15:23Speaker 4: U S T T sort of valuation, and probably you've
- 15:26Speaker 4: heard by bid I also discussing with some local partners
- 15:30Speaker 4: or we are too, although we're not seeking for very
- 15:34Speaker 4: specific strategic investment, but we are definitely seeking for strategic partnerships.
- 15:40Speaker 4: So that's that's just a trend that we are all capturing.
- 15:43Speaker 4: I think this is this is the happening based on
- 15:46Speaker 4: the fact that, uh, the topics changes have the ability
- 15:51Speaker 4: to to to bear the cost, the very high compliance
- 15:56Speaker 4: and legal costs to to enter the US market, as
- 15:59Speaker 4: well as US being a very important strategic market for
- 16:03Speaker 4: all of us, not just in terms of operation and business,
- 16:06Speaker 4: but also in terms of for example, i PO plans
- 16:11Speaker 4: or the capital market in general. Yeah, that's that, that
- 16:15Speaker 4: would be my you know, two cents on this.
- 16:18Speaker 1: You look at I know, our audience, we're over fifty
- 16:21Speaker 1: percent of our audience's global, so whether it's Latam or
- 16:25Speaker 1: Southeast Asia. You look at these kinds of growth centers,
- 16:31Speaker 1: and if you kind of shift to the pay fine narrative,
- 16:33Speaker 1: you know, you talk about payments finance in general, especially
- 16:36Speaker 1: in these emerging markets. When you look at that right now,
- 16:40Speaker 1: are you actually do you think that people are going
- 16:43Speaker 1: to start using crypto for daily payments or is this
- 16:46Speaker 1: something that is still going to be built around speculative trading.
- 16:50Speaker 2: What's your thought there?
- 16:51Speaker 4: I think for emerging market, it's quite obvious that this
- 16:54Speaker 4: is happening already. For example, in Southeast Asia, in Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia,
- 17:03Speaker 4: et cetera. We've already enabled a lot of local payment scenarios.
- 17:10Speaker 4: For example, users can just scan a QR code using
- 17:15Speaker 4: the wallets the local wallet partners we have, and then
- 17:18Speaker 4: they start to use bigger wallet for cross border transactions
- 17:22Speaker 4: or just within their daily life non cross border just
- 17:26Speaker 4: like in intra country kind of transaction.
- 17:29Speaker 3: It's already happening online offline.
- 17:33Speaker 4: I think I've we had a journalist from Forsant News
- 17:38Speaker 4: who did the research using only crypto staper coins to
- 17:46Speaker 4: survive in thirty days in I think it's Vinnam of
- 17:51Speaker 4: one of the Southeast Asian countries, and for those thirty
- 17:55Speaker 4: days of online payments, he even needs to do your
- 18:00Speaker 4: split fair with local people or other tourists. More than
- 18:06Speaker 4: ninety three percent of the scenarios it works. Uh. The
- 18:10Speaker 4: the other seventy seventy seven percent that that it fails
- 18:14Speaker 4: are generally due to a bad internet. Yeah so so
- 18:20Speaker 4: payment or pay by step. A coin as an infrastructure
- 18:24Speaker 4: is already happening in Southeast Asia, especially because they they
- 18:30Speaker 4: have a lot of people who are unbanked and uh
- 18:33Speaker 4: uh and and it just it's just very different from
- 18:36Speaker 4: the US market where people in general have an average
- 18:41Speaker 4: three to four credit cards in the US citizens, but
- 18:44Speaker 4: Southeast Asia not a lot many people cannot apply for
- 18:47Speaker 4: credit card.
- 18:48Speaker 3: Uh.
- 18:49Speaker 4: And a lot of people on pretty much day one,
- 18:52Speaker 4: they have they have their their their mobile phone, which
- 18:55Speaker 4: may not be Apple because Apple is too expensive for them.
- 18:58Speaker 4: Maybe sell me be another much per smartphone, but they
- 19:03Speaker 4: have a smartphone and they can start trading and doing
- 19:07Speaker 4: payment daily payment on phone using crypto.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Well, and this also starts to make the shift toward
- 19:15Speaker 1: neo banks and universal exchanges like what you're talking about here,
- 19:21Speaker 1: where you've got the ability to go into crypto token
- 19:24Speaker 1: ise stocks, gold, silver, oil, whatever it might be in
- 19:27Speaker 1: terms of an interest, but also have the ability to
- 19:30Speaker 1: utilize that account to actually transact in payments. Are you
- 19:35Speaker 1: guys adding new features that I guessed line up with
- 19:40Speaker 1: what some of these neo banks are offering. How are
- 19:42Speaker 1: you guys addressing that.
- 19:45Speaker 4: That's a great question, and we've given it some thoughts because,
- 19:49Speaker 4: like you mentioned, we can easily shift or pivot to.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Being a new bank. However, Beget as an exchange.
- 19:58Speaker 4: Still want to focus on trading and being the trading change.
- 20:03Speaker 3: Kind of business here. Bigger Wallet, on the.
- 20:06Speaker 4: Other hand, is more towards providing the crypto driven card
- 20:14Speaker 4: and also those offline QR code kind of payment scenarios
- 20:19Speaker 4: together with some other ecosystem partners we have. But Biget
- 20:23Speaker 4: is still focusing on exchange business. But in terms of
- 20:27Speaker 4: you know, Bigger Wallet and other ecosystem partners they are building,
- 20:32Speaker 4: they are definitely building a lot around cross border transactions,
- 20:35Speaker 4: around being a new bank, around a more smooth on
- 20:41Speaker 4: off ramp experience for crypto users and noncrypto users. So
- 20:46Speaker 4: we think that's a great trend that the market is observing.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Bigett is not building on that. We want to still
- 20:54Speaker 4: want to split the business and each of us have
- 20:58Speaker 4: a very strong focus. Again, Bigett is focusing on being
- 21:02Speaker 4: the trading platform. And another thing that a lot of
- 21:05Speaker 4: people got confused for for Beget is that our way
- 21:11Speaker 4: entering more in terms of only providing services to you know,
- 21:15Speaker 4: institutional clients and and and more traditional financial users.
- 21:21Speaker 3: Uh.
- 21:22Speaker 4: My answer is no, we still want to focus on
- 21:24Speaker 4: crypto users. And I keep talking about you stands for
- 21:29Speaker 4: USDT and u s d C stable coin is that
- 21:31Speaker 4: we we we think UH blockchain has already revolutionized the
- 21:37Speaker 4: traditional financial market by being the faster and cheaper settlement layer,
- 21:42Speaker 4: and we don't want to go back to the infrastructure
- 21:46Speaker 4: that's built half a century ago. And we want to
- 21:51Speaker 4: keep on using blockchain and stable coin to enable our
- 21:54Speaker 4: users to do trading. And that's why when you look
- 21:58Speaker 4: at our tokenizeds for our us DOOC solutions, it's tokenized
- 22:03Speaker 4: the version of it. We're not asking our users to
- 22:06Speaker 4: transfer their USDT back to USD and settle in the
- 22:12Speaker 4: traditional world. We still want them to remain crypto, not
- 22:17Speaker 4: because we want to, but just because crypto or blotching
- 22:22Speaker 4: is faster and more advanced technology in our opinions.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, we're seeing more and more
- 22:30Speaker 1: uses of twenty four to seven, and there's not only
- 22:35Speaker 1: in the retail space, but also even in the business
- 22:37Speaker 1: business space. I think we're going to see a lot
- 22:39Speaker 1: more people transacting now in stable coin et cetera.
- 22:42Speaker 2: That's going to.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Probably end up onboarding a lot more people into crypto
- 22:47Speaker 1: for the first time, which opens up obviously what you
- 22:49Speaker 1: guys are doing with the UEX, so good news there
- 22:53Speaker 1: for Bickett.
- 22:54Speaker 2: Talk to me about.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six, the rest of this year, any major
- 22:58Speaker 1: things that you guys are going to be launching, What
- 23:01Speaker 1: is the kind of the roadmap and the strategy for
- 23:03Speaker 1: you guys.
- 23:04Speaker 4: M So in twenty twenty six, I would say we
- 23:08Speaker 4: still want to focus on two things.
- 23:10Speaker 3: One is u EX, one is AI.
- 23:12Speaker 4: But along the year we are aware there are very
- 23:16Speaker 4: important events and milestones. But but I guess the general
- 23:22Speaker 4: idea is still focusing focused on UX and AI. The
- 23:26Speaker 4: specific milestones that we can potentially look at this year
- 23:31Speaker 4: is definitely the launch of our EU website and the
- 23:34Speaker 4: US website, and then maybe media year when when FIFA
- 23:40Speaker 4: the World Cup is happening.
- 23:42Speaker 3: We want to see if.
- 23:44Speaker 4: There are more sports related events and even no cryptotoken,
- 23:49Speaker 4: fan tokens, et cetera we can collaborate with. But but
- 23:54Speaker 4: I would say this this is a very important market.
- 23:57Speaker 4: There is a mid term US presidential election, there's also
- 24:02Speaker 4: World Cup, and right now there's uh geopolitical attention in
- 24:07Speaker 4: the middle is everything is related to each other and
- 24:12Speaker 4: impacting the macroeconomics, politics, sports, and cultures, and that impacts
- 24:20Speaker 4: our business a lot. For us, we want to be
- 24:26Speaker 4: prepared for any scenarios and hopefully be able to capture
- 24:30Speaker 4: different growth opportunities. Yeah, so again, UX we've launched it
- 24:36Speaker 4: last year, but in my opinion, there are still a
- 24:39Speaker 4: lot of improvements that we can do.
- 24:43Speaker 3: UH.
- 24:43Speaker 4: Just to give you a quick example, right now, US
- 24:46Speaker 4: stocks token aze US docks. They cannot offer dividend to
- 24:51Speaker 4: their users, and the dividend is reflected in the SPV,
- 24:58Speaker 4: the vehicle that holds the individual to organize the stocks
- 25:03Speaker 4: is reflected in the in the price of of.
- 25:08Speaker 3: The tokenized version of it.
- 25:09Speaker 4: And hence, if you see for example Meta UH today
- 25:13Speaker 4: for example it's treated at five hundred, then you will
- 25:16Speaker 4: you will realized once it provides a dividend, the tokenized
- 25:20Speaker 4: version of Meta under.
- 25:23Speaker 3: Or xdox will dev deviate.
- 25:25Speaker 4: From five hundred because the dividend is reflected on that,
- 25:30Speaker 4: and then that becomes become quite confusing for especially new
- 25:35Speaker 4: new users. They will regalize five hundred. But this is
- 25:38Speaker 4: five hundred and ten. Why, what's what's happening here? So
- 25:42Speaker 4: these kind of things are very subtle but very important
- 25:46Speaker 4: to our users. So we want to see different solutions
- 25:50Speaker 4: and if we can, you know, sort of solve it
- 25:53Speaker 4: through another infrastructure. So so that's what I mean by
- 25:56Speaker 4: building on UX of we've had already already very strong foundation,
- 26:01Speaker 4: but for us, we keep thinking about how to make
- 26:04Speaker 4: it a better experience for our users more more more
- 26:09Speaker 4: more directly, you know, impacting how they how they feel
- 26:14Speaker 4: about different products offering the liquidity. We're also launching a
- 26:19Speaker 4: pre I p O stock and investment opportunities for our
- 26:23Speaker 4: user probably very soon in this month.
- 26:26Speaker 3: So those different.
- 26:28Speaker 4: Scenarios how we are evolving and continue improving on our
- 26:34Speaker 4: current UX model.
- 26:37Speaker 2: Tech stocks Gold four X.
- 26:39Speaker 1: I just saw your U S T T futures available
- 26:41Speaker 1: now I saw ned gas on there, so that was
- 26:44Speaker 1: kind of interesting. So a lot of pretty innovative moves
- 26:48Speaker 1: by by Biggat for sure.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Uh, Gracie Chin, thank you so much for coming in today.
- 26:53Speaker 2: We appreciate it.
- 26:54Speaker 3: Thank you, Paul.
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