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Patriots Unfiltered 11/11: Buccaneers Breakdown, Jets Preview, Rivalries Week · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. First time all year. They got
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  Speaker 1: me into a negative spot.
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  Speaker 2: What happened?
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  Speaker 1: Like I had sort of made a comment that you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was little eye opening how much the whole team
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  Speaker 1: sort of dipped alongside Drake May in the second half
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  Speaker 1: of the Atlanta game, Concerned that there's too much on
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  Speaker 1: Drake May. Fulger immediately goes so Paul thinks they're putting
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  Speaker 1: too much on Drake May. I'm like, that's not what
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  Speaker 1: I said.
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  Speaker 2: We have a guy now, who is the guy?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: I don't come a superstar. We don't care for No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care for all this national media.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to victory lab but like, oh boy,
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  Speaker 4: if you watch him in college.
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  Speaker 1: You were as big of Aim as I was. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: else sees it the way I do.
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  Speaker 5: I love the hot dogs. If you give me a
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  Speaker 5: hot dog with brown mustards our crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Every days, No, no, just sour kraut and brown mustard.
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  Speaker 1: He's now finger wagging you Christian.
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  Speaker 2: Something going on here.
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  Speaker 4: Something's going on here selling the cheese.
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  Speaker 1: I just asked what the fishiness would be.
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  Speaker 2: They can change their mind based on Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But it's the it's the blowing like profusive priests. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: like these people that were thank you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, but for football it's a Friday. For us,
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  Speaker 2: it's still kind of a Tuesday. But tomorrow's Wednesday will
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  Speaker 2: be like a Thursday. Yes, are you following me? It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a Wednesday a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, today's Friday, Yeah, Friday or football it's Friday or Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.
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  Speaker 5: For Evan, every day is all twenty two days.
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  Speaker 1: He's football.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Evan, Paul me deuce And what do we owe
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  Speaker 5: the pleasure?
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  Speaker 2: Alex?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: The desk is here, okay, you figured you just sit.
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  Speaker 6: There's a seat ready that the microphones ready, and then
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  Speaker 6: we have the seats.
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  Speaker 5: We don't have enough fo Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: All right, I've always wanted to Tuesday show.
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  Speaker 2: There you go Tuesday show, a postgame show.
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  Speaker 7: Evn't had me fired up today. We had a good
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  Speaker 7: powow this morning. So I figured with Jerrie, well.
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  Speaker 5: We've got a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: I missed out first and foremost, I have to make
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  Speaker 2: my public apology for not picking the Patriots this week.
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  Speaker 2: I sincerely regret my actions. You got to pick against
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  Speaker 2: them once in.
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  Speaker 1: A while, No, and I did. Fred walked in my
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  Speaker 1: office about half hour ago, and you were a little down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I was looking. I was like, what's the matter,
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  Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I know you're you're a little
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  Speaker 1: bit upset with yourself for not having faith in the boys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Did you pick a widespread thread in that game?
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  Speaker 1: Was it?
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  Speaker 2: I was like twenty nine twenty one or something like that.
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  Speaker 6: That's your thing, Paul gonna it's gonna be a close game.
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  Speaker 1: Just pick the Patriots, right, No, I mean I don't
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  Speaker 1: always adhere to that. I picked a close game that
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  Speaker 1: Tampa was going to lose. I mean Tampa was gonna win.
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  Speaker 1: I said twenty to twenty. And Paul doesn't feel shame
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: But I love being wrong when I picked all year.
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  Speaker 1: So now you let down the boys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So or.
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  Speaker 1: You gave them Bolton for the material. They're like like
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  Speaker 1: our own guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, isn't that the guy that comes in
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  Speaker 2: every once in a while to give us morale boost
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  Speaker 2: on Fridays?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he picked against us.
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  Speaker 1: The morale boost guy. Here he comes again, even the
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  Speaker 1: most guy that the guy morale's fine, frank Man who
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to boost off.
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  Speaker 2: But in all seriously, it was it was a weird game.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, you know, because you want it on X plays.
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  Speaker 2: It was a good Evan would say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely want it on X plays.
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  Speaker 2: But I think I think the defense won the day
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  Speaker 2: on this one defense. You guys, would you agree.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah they did. I mean that was just these
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  Speaker 6: games are hard. I mean, it's a whole new defense.
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  Speaker 6: It's a whole new style of quarterback you're watching. And
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  Speaker 6: I think I've had a little bit of a learning
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  Speaker 6: curve of accepting, you know, how it kind of goes.
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  Speaker 6: And but I'm fully believing in this this defense now
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  Speaker 6: in clutch situations and stopping the run. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: Drake May it just continues to amaze and make throws
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  Speaker 6: every week that just drop your jaw. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: way back when whenever it made fun of me, like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: it'll be fun, Like I didn't know for sure we
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  Speaker 6: get to this point, But right now it's feeling pretty fun.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that I was right.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa. We were lucky to get back to this point.
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  Speaker 6: This is the most fun I've had and since I
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  Speaker 6: got into this job.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this was fun.
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  Speaker 6: You know, even when I got in twenty nineteen. They
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  Speaker 6: just come off a super Bowl, but the vibes were crap,
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  Speaker 6: like you know, and you could feel it the whole
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  Speaker 6: season long. And this is like, yeah, young quarterback, you
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  Speaker 6: go in the locker room, everybody we've regained and you know,
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  Speaker 6: I guess to agree, but to me, it just feels
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  Speaker 6: so different right now of just the vibes around the team,
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  Speaker 6: you know, when you just you've gotten rid of all
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  Speaker 6: of Look, I don't want to make this to sound
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  Speaker 6: the wrong way, like they did amazing things for twenty
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  Speaker 6: years and one championships, but by the end, there was
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  Speaker 6: a lot of baggage with that team and there, you know,
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  Speaker 6: for various reasons, there were things that you know have
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  Speaker 6: but there's always that like there's nothing at this particular moment.
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  Speaker 1: Exciting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're out of the shadow.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I'm excited, and uh, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 6: continuing to watch Drake get better every week.
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  Speaker 1: That's what what what I'm hoping for.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, I think the big line that thing
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  Speaker 6: is right now, I'm just hoping the team's healthy.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of injuries.
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  Speaker 2: Austin Hooper miss you know.
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  Speaker 6: You don't know it, says ramondra Stevenson limited cation booty
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  Speaker 6: limited in a walkthrough. Does that mean that they would
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  Speaker 6: have participated in a non one I don't know, So
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  Speaker 6: I don't know exactly what on a short week, what
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  Speaker 6: any of those health status is Terarell Jennings another one.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we'll you know, wait to see here
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  Speaker 1: over the next couple of days. But otherwise, if.
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  Speaker 6: They can just get through this game and get a
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  Speaker 6: win and get to nine wins and have a weekend
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  Speaker 6: off and maybe refocus.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit, it's good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I know it's just I know it's just
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  Speaker 2: one catch, but I I still can't get over how
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  Speaker 2: quickly Kyle Williams got up to top speed. It's not
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  Speaker 2: just a flat out speed, it's boom. It's like he
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  Speaker 2: was shot out of a cannon. It happened so.
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  Speaker 7: Fast, there's like a visible power surge.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and so that was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, having a running back who doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get caught from behind on open runs.
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  Speaker 6: It's just enough to look at the side.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I said it Sunday. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that I've ever seen that. It's a refreshing the sideline
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  Speaker 1: for instruction.
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  Speaker 2: And we haven't.
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  Speaker 5: And we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 2: Because Paul's School of clock Management, a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are asking in. Some of these are graduates from your school.
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  Speaker 2: They still are confused, but they want to know if
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  Speaker 2: he did the right thing or what they told him
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  Speaker 2: to do was the right thing. And we can go
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  Speaker 2: back and forth on.
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  Speaker 1: Just so you know, there's a lot of uncertainty, not
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  Speaker 1: on what what was right or wrong to do, but
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  Speaker 1: on what he was being told to do.
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  Speaker 6: Even he said it was kind of mixed.
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  Speaker 4: I think he called him to get down, okay, but
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  Speaker 4: I think so they would have had to call the
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  Speaker 4: time out after that play. If you go sixty seven
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  Speaker 4: yards instead of sixty nine, then that burns their second
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  Speaker 4: time out, and then you could just kneel it out.
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  Speaker 1: Right correct, right, So if you kneeled it down, the
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  Speaker 1: game would have been over. Yeah, Now, it would have.
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  Speaker 4: Helped if the defense didn't give up a touchdown driving
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  Speaker 4: thirty second.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm also you know that, and I said this
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  Speaker 1: live while it happened with Mike and you guys know
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  Speaker 1: that I tend to glom onto those stupid minutia kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of it's good because it's a blind spot for me.
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  Speaker 1: But I would not kill a kid for running sixty
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  Speaker 1: whatever yards what was it sixty nine yards?
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  Speaker 2: Yet?
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  Speaker 8: Nice?
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  Speaker 1: Nice for a touchdown to put the game away. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit there and say, like if
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  Speaker 1: if they had allowed the on side kick to get
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  Speaker 1: recovered in another touchdown, I would not hang that loss
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  Speaker 1: on Trevion Henderson from running into the end zone. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Yes, if he kneels down,
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  Speaker 1: game's over, but games should be over either way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's the biggest thing I see.
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  Speaker 4: And the stats are starting to back it up, Like
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  Speaker 4: you see the method to the madness with the way
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  Speaker 4: they're playing defense. The early down zones, the X plays
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  Speaker 4: fred or are coming way down over the last month
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  Speaker 4: or so, so they're not giving up as many chunk
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  Speaker 4: plays on defense, and then once they get into third down.
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  Speaker 4: They're fitth in the league right now on third down.
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  Speaker 4: So once they get into third down, that's when the
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  Speaker 4: band coverage comes out. That's when the aggressiveness comes out,
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  Speaker 4: and they're getting off the field.
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  Speaker 1: So you see the bend don't break ness.
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  Speaker 4: But it's kind of interesting because it's like they don't
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  Speaker 4: break they get to the other side of the fifty,
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  Speaker 4: and then at like the forty they stall out out
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  Speaker 4: the opponent because once they get in the red zone,
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  Speaker 4: everybody's scoring on it in the red zone.
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  Speaker 1: So it's really not like right, it's weird.
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  Speaker 4: They are probably the best like fifty to thirty field
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  Speaker 4: position defense in football, and they're the worst red zone defense.
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  Speaker 4: It's very bizarre, and I get how it's frustrating this
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  Speaker 4: and after further review to watch them give up some
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  Speaker 4: of those like outs and hitches and things underneath these
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  Speaker 4: soft zone coverages that it looks it looks too easy,
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  Speaker 4: like it looks like this is there's no resistance, but
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  Speaker 4: there is a method to it where they're getting the
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  Speaker 4: they stop the run. So they are good. They're good
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  Speaker 4: run defense. Uh, they're getting much better at limiting explosive plays,
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  Speaker 4: and they're good third down defense. So when you combine
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  Speaker 4: those three factors with a high powered offense, you get
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  Speaker 4: a seven game winning streak like that. That's a nice
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  Speaker 4: formula to have in today's NFL. You know, if you're looking.
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  Speaker 2: For this everything away something you said there, Yeah, is
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  Speaker 2: it a high powered offense at this point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're top ten and pretty much everything. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 4: they're one of the Yeah, they're one of the most
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  Speaker 4: explosive off the league. Oh, they're just averaging like twenty
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  Speaker 4: seven points a game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, does that include you know, the easy the defensive
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  Speaker 2: scores or special teams scol or all that stuff when.
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  Speaker 4: They I mean outside of Marcus Jones's punt returns, they
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  Speaker 4: don't really have very many and Gibson's kick off return.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you sound skeptical.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they didn't. We We've said on this show
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  Speaker 2: that usually they're in the low twenties low you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, without the other stuff. But I but that's their
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  Speaker 1: offense is top whatever. The number is ten seven, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can only go by with the rest of the league.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there are ten points eighthan yards.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, points, you said.
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  Speaker 2: Mike.
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  Speaker 7: All the deep balls Drake May is throwing this year.
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  Speaker 7: It feels like every game there's like two or three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't know, if you know, high powered,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, like if I think it's all up
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  Speaker 1: to you know, the descriptions you want to use. But
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  Speaker 1: they're top ten. They haven't almost.
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  Speaker 4: They are a difficult offense to defend well that I
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  Speaker 4: would agree with, and they're an explosive play machine on offense.
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  Speaker 5: On Sunday, I think they had a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: a down day, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I think if they had played like this, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: like if you if you if this was how They've
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  Speaker 4: won it in all different ways at this point, right,
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  Speaker 4: So like some games are just going to kind of
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  Speaker 4: go differently than others. You know, it's a good defense
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  Speaker 4: that Bucks have.
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  Speaker 2: It.
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  Speaker 4: You're not a defense that you're going to string plays
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  Speaker 4: against on a consistent basis. So when you hit, you know,
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  Speaker 4: three fifty plus yard chunks on a defense like that,
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  Speaker 4: it's hard to say that they if I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Like that, who calls the plays for the Bucks on offense?
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  Speaker 4: On offense? Jonathan Grenard is his name?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: First I was a fan, I'd be pissed at him
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  Speaker 2: this week because I think I'm sorry, I'm sorry I
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  Speaker 2: got this the other way around. Who calls the defensive
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  Speaker 2: that Todd Bowles? Okay, I'm I'd be mad at him
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  Speaker 2: because I think I thought that there were times where
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  Speaker 2: he was aggressive where he didn't need to be, and
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  Speaker 2: I think they paid for that.
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  Speaker 1: I liked his plan, I didn't like his decision to
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  Speaker 1: sit out his best player periodically, like Jamel Dean's on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline while someone's getting their varsity letter and getting
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  Speaker 1: torch with seventy to the.
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  Speaker 6: Weird moment in the game, said he really wanted to
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  Speaker 6: rotate his best player.
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  Speaker 1: And in fairness to Todd Bowles, that doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 1: to me. I think there's more to the story. Something
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  Speaker 1: either happened to jim El Dean or something that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: seem like the right story. I actually thought makes sense
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  Speaker 1: to you, like you're gonna rotate corners?
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  Speaker 4: I mean no, but like I actually thought their planned
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  Speaker 4: defensively it was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I thought they did a good job. And
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  Speaker 1: they kind of backed off.
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  Speaker 4: With the Blitzes, knowing how good Drake may has been
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  Speaker 4: against the blitz and they ran more drop eight coverages
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  Speaker 4: than they've ever really run. Now, they were kind of
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  Speaker 4: seven man coverages with a spy, so it's up for interpretation.
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  Speaker 1: But on third down.
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  Speaker 4: They were really only truly rushing three guys, and then
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  Speaker 4: they had one of the four guys in the pass
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  Speaker 4: rush was a spy on Drake May So I think
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots were expecting a little bit more blitz and
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  Speaker 4: they didn't get it as much as they probably were anticipating.
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  Speaker 4: The only blitzed about twenty seven percent of the time.
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  Speaker 4: Their blitz rates usually up around thirty five percent of
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  Speaker 4: the time, so I thought they had a decent plan
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  Speaker 4: in this game. They just gave up three monster chunks.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't even like they gave up twenty five yard place.
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  Speaker 4: They gave up a seventy yarder and seventy two yarder.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Kyle Williams one after he beat his man,
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  Speaker 2: there was no one.
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  Speaker 1: Well the guy goes for the pick. This is that's
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  Speaker 1: the guy I'm talking about, Like he cuts under me inexplicably.
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  Speaker 5: But there was no shell, There was no there was
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  Speaker 5: no one deep well.
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  Speaker 4: Because because Matt Collins took the safety like Yankee concept,
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  Speaker 4: fred have the deep crossers and Drake may is just
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  Speaker 4: throwing to the one on one, just an unreal throw,
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  Speaker 4: like the end zone is perfect, and the end zone
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  Speaker 4: angle makes it look even better, like really because yes, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it almost looked no, and I know it wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: no look, but his body was kind of going this
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  Speaker 4: way and his arm angle was the other way.
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  Speaker 1: And listening to d the one AFC Championship game in
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was.
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  Speaker 9: Right on the Yeah, by the letter of the law,
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  Speaker 9: you don't want to throw the ball like that, you know,
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  Speaker 9: like you you want the throwing hallway.
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  Speaker 4: So's his front foot, his hip and his shoulders to
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  Speaker 4: be pointed at the target.
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  Speaker 1: But he's so freaking good that he.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't need to do it, like and I just keep
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  Speaker 4: on like seeing that with him is just he makes
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  Speaker 4: some throws, especially under pressure, that the mechanics of it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like Mahomes like it's like this is broken, like.
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  Speaker 1: You should not work.
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  Speaker 4: And the way that he can still throw with accuracy
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  Speaker 4: in those situations, I mean you, the ball is literally
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  Speaker 4: in an absolutely perfect spot to Kyle Williams. If that's
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  Speaker 4: a little bit behind him, then Morrison probably undercuts it
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  Speaker 4: and picks it off and he just laid it out
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  Speaker 4: just perfectly right in front of him on that play.
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  Speaker 4: So watching it live, he didn't really didn't really do
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  Speaker 4: the throw justice. I feel like you have to watch
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  Speaker 4: the end zone angle and see just how ridiculous of
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: a bullet that is.
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: I'll kind I think it was third down to Hollins
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: where he like ducks a guy. It's like, I don't
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: even know how he got the ball off, like, it's
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: just I think that's another testament to him in his
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: development of not.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Having a big woosh.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's staying tight, getting the ball out quick.
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: It's just it's cool to watch every week this kid
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: makes throat.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: But I do agree with Evan on the defense for
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: the Bucks, and I know it's one of those like well,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: other than that, you know, what do you think of
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the play, missus Lincoln. I mean, you can't allow those
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: those plays. And I would add the bomb to Hollins
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: in there too, like the last one. I would sort
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: of excuse like you're desperately trying to stop the runs
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: and call up for a second. Popped it out. He's yeah,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: he popped it. There was no one there to make
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: a tackle. But the other stuff is inexcusable, Like undercutting
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: that route like that is fine if you do what
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Evan said and you want to cut it and pick
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: it off. If you don't, there's nobody there to make
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: a tackle, and you're not in position to make a tackle.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: So that's going to end up being a touchdown and
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. But I thought there were more
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: passes defensed in this game against the Patriots that I
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: can remember. Like you look at Brake steps in throws
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: on a third down and there's a guy diving to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: knock the ball away from Diggs or Henry or Hollins.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: They you know, really good tackle on Hollins on the
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: play where he sort of jumped in the air and
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: came back. He was beyond the first down, but by
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the time he came down he was he was down
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and he's a big guy to stop for like no
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: additional yards after that, you know. So I thought that
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the Bucks had a good plan really kind of held
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: him to twenty one points until there's a minute and
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: a half left and a guy goes seventy yards. You
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: see that a lot.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: I remember Jonathan Taylor in twenty one against St. Patriots
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: when you're you're basically in goal line defense at that point.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: So if it breaks like it's there's no right and
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: then they.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Didn't chase him because they wanted him to score. Yeah
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that could have been. It did kind of chase him.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't It wasn't going to catch him once
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I got down to like the twenty yard line, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: like the first one Winfield like dolve and tripped him
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: up at the Yeah, well yeah, this one really get in.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: From the end zone shot, you know with Henderson going
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: towards the camera. How many people were on the ground
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: for Tampa Bay on that play?
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It was because it was like that's what I mean,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Like I think Evans Evans comparison to that Jonathan Taylor
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: running twenty one is spot off at that because that's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just you're just totally selling out your because you have to.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: You have to tackle them like immediately and call time out.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Everything has to be perfect. So once he scorched through,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: it's a game set man. Happens a lot.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: Like I feel like I'm always alert for those now
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: on the really short yard is You're like, don't miss
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: the tackle here, you know, or get faked out.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we got the right play call in the guy.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: It was weird because it was a second down, a
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: second and nine I would have thrown. I said to Mike,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: this is a great down to throw all.
• 17:51
  Speaker 10: That.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I tweeted it during the game that the tosses had
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: kind of stopped working, and I was like, how many
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: more of these are we gonna call?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: It's like, that's a good Josh McDaniels, Mike, Mike showed
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: me you know why you great next gen charge and
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: it's like nothing nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing nothing nothing, touchdown, touchdown. Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: I thought you did a good job Evan in your
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: in your right up kind of because I think we
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: were all frustrated with some of the toss plays and
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: you know, to your point when you wrote about it,
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: sticking with it and you know not, I mean.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I think all of us we had callers afterwards.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: We talked about in the postgame show, like it's just
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: it can be maddening, and there's it's an easy crutch
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: to be like.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, the offensive coordinator, what's you doing calling those runs?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: But it seems like it did pay dividends.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest thing is they are keeping
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: their traditional dropbacks per game down because McDaniels is committed
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: to the run game and and doesn't you know there,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: you could have very easily after the way they were
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: running the ball early on in that game, abandoned the
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: run at halftime and gone and then Drake made his
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: drop and back fifty five times against a good pass defense.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: And instead they stake committed and they build all their
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: play actions and all their deep shots off of the
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: run game as well. I mean, like they get these
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: single high safety coverages all the time now because they're
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: just putting the quarterback under center and the full back
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: or two tight ends or whatever, and these teams are
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: loading the box and he's throwing bombs. So if you
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: like the bombs and you like the boots, and you
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: like the play actions, like you can't do that if
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: you're not going to run the ball. And it's not
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: about volume, it's about showing them the actions. You know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: we're gonna pull the guard, we're gonna lead the full back,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: we're gonna do these different things. You can't run a
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: boot if you don't run the outside zone to set
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: up the boot. So like all these things are all connected,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: and yeah, they might run into a brick wall for
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: two quarters, but then eventually you break one and there
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: you go.
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: No.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you have faith in your defense, you
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: can do that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: You know you can.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: And the quarterback down when the quarterbacks in third and seven,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: thirty and eight and it's not over like that obviously
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: helps a lot too to be able to get out
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: of those situations. So I thought that, you know, that
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: was that is kind of the hallmark of their offense
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: right now is how balanced they are. And it's not
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: necessarily that they're this great running team. Actually their stats
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: are pretty poor as a rushing offense. But the fact
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: that they run it enough to have balance in terms
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: of the play calling has been really big for them
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: because then that just allows Drake to just big, big
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: play hunt when he does drop back and he doesn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: have to drop back fifty times, you know, he's only
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: dropping back around I think it's like thirty five or
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: thirty six times a game. So they're able to manage
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: it that way, whereas like other teams that kind of
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: abandoned it. They have their quarterbacks dropping back forty plus
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: times a game. It's asking a lot, it's asking a
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: lot of the quarterback. It's asking a lot of the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: offensive line, so it kind of protects all of that.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So the Patriots are expanding their lead on the AFC East.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I wrote, the Patriots run the East right now. Patriots
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: run the East.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: They got it right now. I mean they control it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: They don't have to worry about other things now.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: They don't have to worry about windows closing.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: No, what's saying Buffalo has got a tough schedule down
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: the stretch. I mean the Patriots got an easy one.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Buffalo's got to play some tough games.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, they have to play the Patriots.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I mean I think those are I mean they got Tampa,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Patriots in Philly, and the Patriots have Buffalo and Baltimore.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: So like to me, it's the Patriots have it right
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in front of them. And the element of the loss
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: for Buffalo this week, I don't everybody wanted to fixate
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: on tiebreakers, which I think they're missing. The important thing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: The tiebreaker that they gained on Sunday was then losing.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Buffalo lost to Miami. That's a division game, right so
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: now if you lose the game, now, obviously, if the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Patriots win, who cares tie breakers? You're going to be ahead.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: But if the Patriots lose the game and now you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: split one one, you still have that one game buffer
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: with the division record. No one mentioned that Tony Romo
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was infatuated with calling it a two game lead, like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it's not like, but the big thing is they now
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have the edge because assuming the Patriots can take care
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of business against Miami in the two games against the Jets,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that'd make you at worst five and one in the division.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: The best of the Bills can do is four and two.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So if you tie, that's the tie break.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: That's the first tie breaker, I mean head to head first,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: but then it would be division records.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So losing was bad enough for Buffalo, but losing to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a division team is enormous. They might mean Buffalo big
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: edge for the Patriots.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Buffalo might get the Bengals with Burrow back, and they
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: got to go to the Texas too.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: It's the defense. I mean, I'm not saying that are
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the same because well, they can't stop anybody Bengals, right,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and that was the I mean, you can't score any
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: more points than Joe Flacco scored the last few weeks
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: when they lose.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Right, Like people like, oh waitill they get Burrow. They
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: were scoring forty points a game they lost.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: They lost thirty nine, thirty eight and forty something like
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: what are they lose to the Bears is like forty
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: five thirty seven? You know, forty seven one there, both
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: in the forties. So you can't like, Joe Burrow is
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: not going to be able to fix that. As much
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: as I love Joe Burrow, he can't go out and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: play defense.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah the point lots of good emails coming in here, Darius.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: He says all of your analysis suck, and then he
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: has a smile of mode. Just kidding, but seriously, stop
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: picking against us. We are good and we will get better.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Go Patriots. Ps. We still haven't played our best complete game,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: so we'll be just fine come playoff time.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Very optimate. Yeah, it's all coming together.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And the other thing we need to talk about is
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the Patriots representation at the game. I mean there were
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of Patriots fans.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: At least, yeah, I'd say somewhere around there. I mean,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: he was getting MVP chants on the run.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You could hear, you could hear reactions to like so
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: humble he was. I think those are for bab Yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a job Matt Collins and they're canting m v P
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: but it's Bakers.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Well, it was funny because you got to match that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Drake got the m v P chance, and then when
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: he threw the interception, the Bucks fans started to mockingly
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: do an m v P chance. And then when the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Patriots sealed it and Van started started up again, Collins was, Oh.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great throw.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: It's funny though, because I feel like the the Drake
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: of it all is bringing to head again like the
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: old m VP discussion of like is he the guy
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: kind of doing it all himself and he doesn't really
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: have much and he's just playing amazing, or is it
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: the best player on the best team. You know, Like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: because the best player on the best team, I probably
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: would still lean towards Matthew Stafford or Sam Darnold, you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: maybe Jonathan Taylor, but then you know, but Drake, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: would say, if you want to talk about a real
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: m v P kind of doing it all himself, I
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: think you would have Drake.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Well, if the.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Voters, like last year, they've Josh Allen won the m
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: v HE because of that argument, Like they thought that
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Lamar's supporting cast was better because he had Derrick Henry,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: and he had a good defense and like all these
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: other things. So if their voters are consistent with the
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: way that they're voting.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: That's true, then I JSN and Seattle you have I
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: mean Pooka.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And and I made this argument just now with Fred
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and Mad in the office. I said the same thing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: You know Stafford has Pooka. You know Jonathan Taylor has
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones And I know you'll mocked Daniel Jhoneson's he's
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: leading the league like he's having a great year. And again,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I'll say this again, Jonathan Taylor has been a Colt
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the last three years. He hasn't done this.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They haven't been able to win games. He's been there.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Now they have a quarterback and he's able to win
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: some games so great that even running back the NBA,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: there's no way. There's no way. But I'm just saying,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: if the offensive player of the year, if you're comparing
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: these things, yeah, Drake does not have a weapon that's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of the caliber of Pooka Nakula or Jonathan Taylor or
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Jason Smith JSN.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: It's just yeah, is McDaniel's a shoeing for assistant coach
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of the Year.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be nominated for sure.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I mean it's really I'm not familiar with every.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Question, really really, like right now, the three hottest play
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: callers in the league are Stiking Klint Kubiak and Seattle
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: and McDaniels. And like Stikeen's a head coach, so that
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: takes him out of it. He's going to be in
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: the conversation with Rabel for Coach of the Year. But
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Klint Kubiak's done an amazing job in Seattle too, But
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: you know, same thing, like he has Jackson Smith and Jigba,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and he has a more veteran quarterback and Sam Darnold,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: and you know, you can make the same case that
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: we were making for Drake. So he's definitely gonna be
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: on the short list of nominations. You know, a lot
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: of the other guys that are really scheming their butts
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: off are head coaches, like you know McDonald, the Seattle
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: coach is scheming their defense, so their their defense is fantastic,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: But it's the head coach that's driving the ship there,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: not the assistant.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So John and Louisiana wants to make sure everyone knows
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: is that Fred chose the Bucks to win. Sunday tried
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to mask it by saying the Patriots have to lose eventually,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: but it was really his love for Baker that tipped
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the scale. So stay on that side, Freddy, the train
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: has already left. JK and Evans. Bill's window is officially closed.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Good job.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, what is JK and Evans just kidding?
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: I thought j.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Evans Evans Evan? Yeah, maybe like saying the grammar matters,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it matters. Yeah, I got my own Josh Allen literacy,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: my own Josh Allen good. I have my own Josh Allen.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Now so Dan and Virginia Michigan, And I'm sure Evan
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: has the answer for this. He wants to know who
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: ran the fastest of the weekend, Kyle Williams on his
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: catch and run, Trevor Trevion Henderson on his first rushing touchdown,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: or fred Curs running to close the window on the Bills.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Nice Davis Mills, did you see No? Did he run
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: like over nineteen miles an hour, which.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Is not for him?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: That's pretty imp immediately calls into question for me all
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: those numbers, But that's just me U.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: It is a literal GPS tracker like it could not
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: be more scientific, just like.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Someone with the stop which accurately said like I actually
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: saw like like flashes coming off of Kyle Williams when
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he was in Mario Davis Mills twenty minutes to get
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to the pylon and they were like one mile different,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: like you drive over the power boosts very like I think.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: It's like two miles per Henderson's fifty five yard run
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: was the fastest. He topped twenty two miles an hour.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: So he's actually one of only four ball carriers in
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: the league to do that, because Junior Gibbs has done
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: it twice. So uh, he's one of four guys in
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: the entire NFL this year to top twenty two miles
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: an hour. It's the fifth fastest time of a ball
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: carrier in the league this season. And Kyle Williams was
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: over twenty one on his touchdown and then Travion's second
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: touchdown was over twenty one as well.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: It's amazing they had like three touchdowns. I know, like
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: all up there in the.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Right well usually it's like Schooler is on like the
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: kickoff coverage team because you know, busting ass down the.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Field, right, Yeah, you gotta filter it out those like
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: gunners and stuff like that that just get a dead sprint,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Like that's not really the same thing. But uh, the
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: they do track acceleration as well, and Kyle Williams's acceleration
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: was off the charts.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: That's what it was, Travion. It was like even on TV,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it was noticeable how fast they were. Yeah, you could
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Once Trayvon Anderson on the fifty five yard er, he
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: like kind of puts two hands on the ball as
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: he's going through and once he felt that he was free,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Shot block out of a canon.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of blocks.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of blocks, Tonda, Everyone's talking about him taking
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: out two or three guys.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: And it was like bowling pins.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Now, to be fair, he took out the first guy
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: and then he fell, which like caused Like it wasn't
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: like he literally blocked three guys.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: However you do it, But he did his job. But
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it was, yeah, it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Created he created like a pile up exactly. But and
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: he's unbelievable. He's an unbelievable uh converted full back, like
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: maybe one of the better ones I've ever seen. Like
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: he is honestly, uh because he's super athletic for his size,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: so they've used him like as a lead blocker traditional
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: full back. They brought him in motion and then kind
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: of have him kick out somebody when he comes in motion.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, he just absolutely destroys the line of scrimmage.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: He's actually like pretty good at it in terms of
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: like knowing who to block, because sometimes the pictures change
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: post snap, and he's like pretty good at seeing who
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: he's supposed to block, and you know, in an offensive
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: lineman misses a block, he like helps them and makes
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: it the block and correct and like all that kind
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: of stuff. He's he's really really good at it, Like
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: he had to. I know, you did it a little
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: bit in high school and college, but this has to
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: be something that like he's studied quiet kind of a lot,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Like maybe this was like a potential path for him
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: at one point, and so he was really working at
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: fullback because this isn't like you know when you see
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: certain guys that just coming on the goal line and
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: they just run, you know, straight into the line of
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: scrimmage and just kind of go full bore. Like they're
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: kind of using him in some unique ways for a
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: guy that's never really done it before, and they're definitely
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: gonna throw him a pass at some point like that,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: that's one hundred percent coming.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: He told me it's just one snap. Ever in his
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: NFL career, his rookie year he did played offense. But
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: it's funny because he loves it so much. We've both
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: had these conversations with him. His face lights up when
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: he talks about playing offense.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: It's incredible, how like I said, like how good he
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: is at, you know, reacting on the fly to like
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: who he's supposed to be blocking. Like that's something that
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: doesn't come naturally, Like that takes reps in time to
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: learn how to do it, and he's he's already doing
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: that at a.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Really high level.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: He doesn't play a ton on defense, so it's not
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: like a Marcus Jones situation where you're worried about, like
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: is he going to be playing too much? He only
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: plays about twenty five to thirty snaps a game on defense,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: So if you use him, they've played them eight snaps
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: on offense on Sunday, It's not like there it's like
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: a ton of workloads. So I think they can continue
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: to use him pretty heavily on offense as well.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Andrew Peterson from London is fed up to Peterson. This
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: is not necessarily directed at you guys, but more at
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the general narrative. Yes, I know the Patriots have had
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: an easy schedule. However, in caps look at the strength
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: of victory. The Patriots have an equal SOV to the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Colts and a better SOV than the Broncos, Bills, and Chiefs.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: So to this point in the season, most of the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: top of the AFC don't really have more than one
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: or two wins against good teams either. We should get
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the number one seed. The rest of the way. Both
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: of Colts and the Broncos have pretty difficult schedules. The
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Bills play a reasonably difficult schedule and the Charges don't
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: have any lay up games either. So what do you
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: think about that strength of victory?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't really care about any of this.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah you don't.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: You don't care, So no more talk about easy schedule.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I know you can talk about this, that's what he's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: talking about. But strength of victory is.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't care about how the schedule and I
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: don't care about that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: So we don't know what that's going to end, I know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: but we make it to calculate that now is a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: waste of everybody.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: But people make it a point. Oh they've got an
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: easy schedule.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They do, you know, so because they do, But maybe
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: why is it compared to who not compared to Buffalo,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: because they have an easy schedule too.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: They're in the same division, right, So but what he's
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: saying is so far strength of victory the Patriot.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: That's irrelevant is what I'm saying. That doesn't matter. It's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: who you played.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Well, that's how you get your strength of victory.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: No, do you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, and let's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: move on kind of.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: But just because he understands, I don't emary elitist.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: There's eight more games to play, I know, but strength
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of victory will will win work itself out.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: I understand it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: They have their strength of victory because they've winning every
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: single game, because they're playing against easy teams. If you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: lose against the hard team, they don't get strength to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: victory points Denver had because nothing to Denver ones that
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: with the Denver.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And the Colts are the same amount of wins.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: You said, because they're winning all the games, Well, so
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: are the Denver and.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: The Colts, but they've lost to other good teams. But
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: like according like the Broncos lost to the Colts.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: I know, but according to this guy, so they didn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: get strength.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: To victory points for that because they didn't win the game.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: What do you mean they didn't win the game?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: They lost to the Colts.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, so they didn't win.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: But right, you don't have that strength and loss to
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the Raiders strength. So their strength of victory is better
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: because you played better teams when you when you won.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: But they all had the same amount of wins too.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I know, but that counts strength of victory, right, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: they beat every one of those other things. But up
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to this point, he's right, correct.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't calculate strength of victory.
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: He is.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I would say that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: It The part that stinks about it is that it
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: does matter because it's part of the tiebreaker for it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: But it's like the fourth thing.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I know, but it's all.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: But it's part of the tiebreaker formula for this, and
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: it's awesome important. It's also part of the tiebreaker formula
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: for the drinks after.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Head to head, Okay, it's a conference, it's after common opponents.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: It's not that important part of the discussion.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Well, it's actually more important if you're tanking, honestly, Like
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: it's like the.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Draft order is, that's when it's important.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: That's why the Commanders had a higher pick than the
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Patriots a couple of years ago, and why they got
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels and we got Drake may It is because
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: it's strength and victory. So it does matter in that respect.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: But they're on the other side of it now where
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: we're talking about the things you know in conference.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Actually has it perfect because he's talking about the AFC
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: West teams have to all play each other and that
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: their schedules would be so down the stretch, right, And
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying it's irrelevant to talk about strength
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the victory now, Okay, Well, and I don't like, I'll
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: take your word for it. I don't look at strength
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of victory when you're ten games into a season. If
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: it gets down to the season's over and everybody's tied
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and everybody doesn't have head to head and yeah, I'll
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: look at four and five tie breakers down the road.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Does he who wins two? But coin toss is one
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: of those two? Is that important?
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: In Texas it is. Do you see that at the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: gas station?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I see that, actually Texas football. I just don't understand
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: why any of this matters.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Well, I just I don't need this stat to tell
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: me what I've got his show, That's all I know.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Because they're even talking about next year because they.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Talk about it because he admits that he's just trying
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: to poke Patriots fans, and they're not talking about it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Seriously, if you end up fourteen and three, no one's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: going to care, Like your strength to schedule like is irrelevant.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: If you have a better record than everybody else, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, Like I don't know why you lose
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: sleepover this is I guess belong and short people.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Patriots fans are very sensitive about everything about about other
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: people not giving them.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: Some troll saying you guys haven't played anyone good, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: then they need amo to feed back at whoever's trolling them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing about the league. No one has
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: played anyone really good.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Right, So why are the Patriots the only one that
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: gets that?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Because they have the easiest one by by numbers, Like
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: you guys want to use the numbers to tell me
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: all about their explosiveness and this, that and the other thing.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: But you can't use the numbers that that says that
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: they have the easiest schedule. Buffalo has the same easy
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: He's back. He's back, Like, I just don't understand why
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: it's not good enough to have what Mike did the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: first ten minutes of the show. That's that's where I'm at.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I just talked and that game was how exciting it
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: is to be eight and two, how exciting.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: It is to be people like you and your brethren
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: just have to show do any of them the bear.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: That's what you, guys. I spent two hours celebrating a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: great win on Sunday and still got killed for this.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, that's what it is. Just shut
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: off the radio. That's it. Turn on this radio.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know, I don't know. You
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: guys said you celebrated. But Barton Poland, I love Paulie
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: says he's by far my favorite. But on the postgame show,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: he was unlistenable, say why did you do that? Like
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: he was on purpose trying to be unnecessarily objective. The
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: one that probably bugged me the most was underplaying Drake's
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: throw to Williams and saying that Kyle Williams and stupid
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: defending were solely responsible for it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Well, Kyle Williams was not. It was a great throw.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the end zone angle? But it was
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: all on the defender from But would you say that
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: May had to make a perfect throw to get that done? Yes, okay,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I said that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: That's all he said that Sunday. That's all he's saying.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I think Matt's actually I think Matt Smith said that
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Sunday to credit well he said it was a great throw.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I think we did talk about I want you to hear,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: but I want to give credit to the guy who
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: actually said it, Matt Smith.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I want you to say it was a perfect Well,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: thank god we had that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: It was a perfect It was a perfect throw.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You know. But I do like Barton.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: He is one of our long timers. We had a
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: phrase in that that was that really struck my fancy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: He's unnecessarily objective. I didn't know that was such a thing. Hey,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you don't know what objective should be a kind of
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: your job, right.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Our job is to entertain. There you go, Fred I
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: However, the fans feel that being entertained.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: That's our job, which is why we do the window talk.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's entertained.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I entertained myself when I do it. That's you know,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I'm my own audience there. What are you doing?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: We're all having a good time today. What's not to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: have a Seriously, that was one of the more enjoyable
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: games because, like it was a good team give me, yes,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: give me when the other team actually punches back, you know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and then you win it, that's you know, I know
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Fred loves the blowouts. Like, I'll take that game any
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: day of the.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: More criticism for us. Travis in West Virginia. I thought
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: we agreed that writing in and asking where to eat
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: is dumb, but I noticed Alex wrote a fifteen thousand
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: word essay on that very topic in the PW newsletter.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Is this the best way for her to spend your time? Also,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: can you tell Deuce to stop relating everything to when
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: he started working in twenty nineteen.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't know he's doing that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: Sorry, Travis, that's sorry for trying to help people out
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: with food recommendations.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I love it when people criticize it. Mike and Medford
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Paul suddenly thinks the easy schedule is irrelevant. For eight weeks,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: we still suck because our schedule was so easy. Used
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: to make me angry.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Irrelevant, used to make me angry.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Now I'm just worried about what's that again?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Sorry? I didn't get the explanation. Can we talk about
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: weakness of defeat?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: That's the defeat?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike do so. I appreciate it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: Their weakness of defeat. It's really good or bad.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Whatever's better for the Patriots.
• 40:54
  Speaker 12: Is what it is.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I go or strength at defeat.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Now, I've waited so much trying.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I've waited forty one minutes to not have any grievances
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: about this game.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty good. I don't know if
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: we're going to have an a grievance about this game.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the phone. I have a
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: couple eight five five pats five hundred. Let's see what
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: everyone else has.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying myself from that.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Nate's in Connecticut.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: What's up? Nate?
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys, can you aysgree Well?
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Yep, Nate, So, uh my question for you guys.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Well more of a thought actually, but obviously our defensive
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: line has been overperforming. You know, they've been doing very well.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And uh, how unnecessarily objective.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: We're we're an eight win team and you know, with
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: our strength to schedule, I think playoffs for us are
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: easily guaranteed. And how important do you think it is
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to keep our defensive line pretty healthy? You know people
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: are calling.
• 41:55
  Speaker 12: At the wall.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Uh, we haven't let up a fifty yard running back
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: by Canva Bay.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: We only a sixty yard at least you get to
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: sixty went to fifty three.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Alright, So I'm just gonna like, now it's fifty the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: speed limit.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So uh well, I thought, you know, one
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: thing that has caught my eye to that point, Nate,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: is the last couple of weeks, Christian Barmore hasn't really
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: been himself this Yeah, and I don't know if that
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: back thing happened, Like I saw him go down, obviously
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: we all did, but was that percolating under the surface
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: and then it flared up during the game. Uh, He's
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: gone two straight weeks without logging a pressure on a quarterback,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: which is not the Christian paid So I kind of
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: chalked that up to it last week because he did
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: get more of the double teams and Milton Williams. Uh So,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I that was sort of what I chalked it up
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: to last week, But then it was the same this
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: So at what point are we, you know, looking at
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: something And I'm not saying it's he's a bad player.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I'm saying it's something physical that he might be dealing
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: with that's having him slow down. But I will say
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Corey Durden is doing some good stuff on the defensive line,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: and I know that that's a kind of under the radar,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: unsung hero type of player. But he had three pressures
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: in this game. He's really hard to move in the
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: run game as well as strong dude. He's somebody that
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I has really caught the eye watching their tape.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Anything else, Okay, evn't planned to seat on Barmore yesterday
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: when I saw you and then when I did my
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: defensive grind of the tape.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: This is my thought on Barmore as I've watched him more.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: Sometimes when he's at his best, it feels like he
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: is on the verge of being out of control, like
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: he's very much just a wrecking call and throwing himself
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: in there. And you know, I don't know, there's just
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: something that I didn't really see in the game from
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: him that I saw and sometimes when I would watch
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: him early in the season, it almost felt like it's like,
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know, you're like out of control, You're you're
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: kind of reckless abandon right now, whereas like Milton Williams
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: feels very much into like technique, control effort, and I
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: just I wonder what Barmore, if that's you know, another
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: symptom of what you're saying, if there is something physical
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: going on with him, because when he really is going,
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: it jumps off to me. You could just see, like,
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: my god, this guy is just throwing himself into the line,
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: you know, throwing himself into blockers when they're running stunts.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: And the other guy, I think we should maybe mention
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: it's just, you know, Harold Landry, who you know, hasn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: really been productive. I found myself a little torn on
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: him because at the same time, I think he's a
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: really stout piece. I just don't know if he's got
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: And again it could be an injury.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: Going back to what was it the New Orleans game,
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: I think is where it looked like he heard his ankle. Yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe he just doesn't quite have the wiggle
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: to get away from guys as much, but he's still
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: very solid. He plays within the scheme, and you know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: it's it's like one of those things where I like
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: what he's doing in one regard, but he hasn't really
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: produced the way he did the first like three or
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: four games of the season when he was consistently pressures,
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: solo tackles, those kind of things.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I would agree with that. And I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: think with bar More, to me, it's pad level.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Like when he when he's playing with good leverage and
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: good pad level, he's so big and strong and he's
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: got really long arms and he can just kind of
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: bull rush people back into the pocket and if he
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: has a back thing like it's probably harder for him
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: to play what that kind of leverage every way. So
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: I think that that could be something that's that's happening
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: with him. Uh, Chase On has been really good. You know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: he's continuing had a really good to be disruptive. Millon
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Williams is a freaking monster. Yeah, Milon Williams is motor
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: is just I was just gonna say to like Chase
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: down ball sideline, he is all.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: On the other side of the ball of Patriots offensive line.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Joe and Michigan points out Vea had one solo tackle,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: one pressure, zero sacks. The old line was much much improved,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: giving up only one sack to a blitz crazy Tampa Bay.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they were blitz crazy, but they're
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: a good d Yeah, but how do we think the
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: offensive line did that?
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Van number is widely incorrect. He was in the backfield
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: the entire game. Yeah, he was a monster in this game.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: And you know, short yardage running, goal line, pass rush.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: I mean he lived in the backfield and was all
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: over Drake May. Garrett Bradberry gave up six pressures in
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: this game at center, and I don't.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Really kind of held on. I don't really blame him.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: And it was exactly what Josh McDaniel said last week, like,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna die, die slowly. And that was exactly
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: poor Garrett Bradberry on Sunday, just like there's a clear
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: size mismatch between those two guys, and Bradbury is just
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: on skates and just trying to hold on for dear life.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: And I give him credit for hanging in there and playing.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Uh you know as best as he could, but Vita
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Vea was a NonStop problem for them. Now, the tackles
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: played pretty well, and I thought Campbell and Moses were quiet.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: The Abby is a good player. I thought the Abby
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: was an impact guy. Yeah at the edge.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: He's a good player. And I thought Campbell, you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: did pretty well against him. You know, a couple of pressures,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: but nothing crazy, you know, no sacks, So I thought
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: he was pretty solid in this game.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I think people are going to look at the one
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: sack thing and make that determination. I think it was
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: similar what we've seen hasn't been bad. Offensive line. I
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: don't think has been bad, and I don't think they
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: were bad Sunday, But I wouldn't confuse like six sacks
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: one week, one sack the next, what an unbelievable improvement.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was similar.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I would say what an unbelievable improvement would probably
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: go more to Drake than to the offensive line. I
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: thought in this game he's stood in pockets and read
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: out plays a lot better. And that was something we
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: talked about a whole lot last week in terms of
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: taking unnecessary sacks, and I thought he managed the pressure
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: exceptionally well. In this game, and I thought the most
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: and obviously the downfield throws are great. The throw to pop,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: the slant to pop against the blitz over the middle
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: of the field that went for twenty six yards. To me,
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: was the best play of the game he made because
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: he's got a free runner coming right at him up
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: the middle of the Levante. David comes free right up
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: the middle. Uh, and he stood in there and took
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: a hit.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: That's the one where it's kind of arm angle was
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: a dangerous.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Was No, it was a slot to slant to pop,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: which was the one where he had pressure all around
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: him and he lowered his arm angle and got the
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: pass off with that.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Holland I don't know.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: It was a short pass though, Yeah, yeah, it might
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: have been Hollands.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he threw a little like push pass, little shovel
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: to pop on.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: A chat was another one. Yeah, but but he was.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Looking I actually I had no problem with that one
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: because I thought he was looking right at Pop and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: he knew there is nobody over there.
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: It was the one to pop to me, is like,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: that's that's quarterbacking, right, Like you you know you're going
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: to get killed. You're staring down the barrel, they drop
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: the end out and so it's Pop Douglas on a
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: defensive end in a little bit of space, and so
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: it's one of your quickest players against the two hundred
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: and ninety ninety five pound guy.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: And he stood in there, he saw it.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: He made the throw hit, popping stride and he actually
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: it was an ankle biting tackle if he doesn't get clipped.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of throwaways in this game. There
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: was I think there was a lot of what Evan's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacking that I liked. And I think that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that's the difference between six sacks and one sack. Is
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I'm okay if I only complete fifty one in change
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Now, maybe that's a little low in this
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: day and age, but it doesn't have to be seventy
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: five percent to be effective.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: But I did.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: He showed you he was very effective at times. But
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Drake with pressure, he did get hit a lot, just
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: took some hits. You know, we got our guy, and
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: our guy is tough. Yeah, I mean he took some
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: big hits. Yeah they may not have been SATs, but
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: he took some big hits. I was just worried that
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: in this game. I don't know what the numbers would suggest,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: but I thought the hit, like the caliber of hit,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: it was better in the you know, better for the defense.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I smoked him on one and I was like, oh God.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: But I thought that in general, the.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: It it would talk a lot about like him leaving
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: the pocket early and not letting plays develop and getting
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: a little bit antsy. And I give him a lot
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: of credit because he knew that they were going to
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: come after him, and he stood in there and he
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: delivered time and time again. And they spied him a
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: lot in this game on third down, so like it
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: would have been playing into their hands if he had
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: gone out of structure and started running around. That was
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: what they wanted him to do, and he was able
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: to stay in the pocket and make throws from the
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: pocket on time, and I thought that was a big
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: difference in this game.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: Brian in Long Beach, California. What's up?
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Brian's Long Beach?
• 50:49
  Speaker 13: Hey, Ella's first time calling in. I just wanted to
• 50:52
  Speaker 13: say that this is like the first time in a
• 50:55
  Speaker 13: long time that big plays have been part of this offense,
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: and it's been quite a place to actually watch enjoyable play.
• 51:03
  Speaker 13: It's kind of like when we would watch the Chiefs
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: and wonder, like, what's so great about this team? Yeah,
• 51:08
  Speaker 13: and then they put up a big play and like
• 51:10
  Speaker 13: that's it, that's where it's at, and it's finally time.
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: For us to do that.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got some players a stranger.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: In my view, what's the biggest difference in the offense
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: from the last few years is their ability to get
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: chunks and not have to I mean, they had one
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: drive on Sunday. No, I know that's an extreme. This
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: particular game is an extreme. You can't live like that.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: They had three touchdown drives or two plays or less. Yeah,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you can't do that every week. But the ability to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: get the ball down the field so it doesn't have
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to be a fourteen play drive all the time is
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: why you're what was it eighth in points as opposed
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: to twenty eighth or to defend Fred.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, their third and explosive play rate, you know past
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: play rate right now, that's an offense and I would
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: say that this is like the last time that they
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: were this explosive was probably like twenty seventeen, like with
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks and that offense.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's not even just going back.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Through obviously post Brady, Like the last couple of years
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: with Brady they worked this explosive either offensively in eighteen
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: and nineteen, so they they've really that's that's their offense now.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: And I think that it's a testament to to you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I don't think that they're running it the Brady offense
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: like for in terms of Josh McDaniels, Like, I don't
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: think that they were throwing bombs like this with Brady
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: maybe like oh seven, but that was because you had
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Randy Moss and a Hall of Fame receiver, Like this
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: isn't They don't have a Randy Moss running out there
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: that's taking the top off the defense. And they're still
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: super super explosive. And and I think that that has
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: a lot to do with Drake.
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: Well, what was your reaction in the press box when
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: Drake throw that that they're hold on? Welly sorry ballame
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: h when he threw that downfield pas to mac collins.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: So that because that to me is just it's the
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: confidence that you have.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that, So they're in Cover three in the
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: corners like bailing and Zion McCollum is just like backpedaling
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: and backpedaling and he's like, there's no way this ball
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: is going over my head, and sure enough it goes
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: right over his head. Like that's an really, there's no
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: you should not be able to outthrow an NFL cornerback
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: And he's done that twice now in New Orleans.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: It didn't count, but both those times, like the cornerback
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: is like he's looking up and he's looking up and
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: he's like, is it's still going?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Like you know?
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: And sure enough it did.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Williams and Fort Lauderdale.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: William you go to the elbow room, Actually we did.
• 53:23
  Speaker 14: It's actually emailed a couple of days ago Soda that
• 53:26
  Speaker 14: I was bringing my mom up she you know, battling
• 53:29
  Speaker 14: cancer right now. And we went on Saturday to sorry,
• 53:33
  Speaker 14: not the elbow room. On Saturday, we went to the
• 53:36
  Speaker 14: past Tampa clubs that yeah, you talked about. That was
• 53:40
  Speaker 14: really fun. That was cool. It took a couple of
• 53:42
  Speaker 14: pictures of Pat Patriot. That was fun. But I do
• 53:44
  Speaker 14: have a bone to pick with hats fans. We sat
• 53:47
  Speaker 14: on the sideline and there were so many fans I'm
• 53:50
  Speaker 14: talking about like we literally like took over the whole
• 53:53
  Speaker 14: entire stadium. But nobody was cheering, and we were trying
• 53:56
  Speaker 14: to get everybody all hyped up. We were trying to
• 53:58
  Speaker 14: get everybody to scream MVP. But it was everybody was
• 54:01
  Speaker 14: kind of a bunch of bummers. Man, it was. It
• 54:03
  Speaker 14: really could have been louder in there, if they if
• 54:05
  Speaker 14: everybody started a chance.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Wow. I mean I was sitting in the press box
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: with closed windows and I could hear the MVP chance Yeah,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: heard on TV. It wasn't that.
• 54:14
  Speaker 14: It wasn't that. It wasn't that loud. It was it
• 54:17
  Speaker 14: could have been. I mean, it could have been louder.
• 54:18
  Speaker 14: But I okay, there's so many people not cheering. There
• 54:21
  Speaker 14: was and I do want to leave. I have a
• 54:23
  Speaker 14: question for you guys. I'm worried about our depth on
• 54:26
  Speaker 14: running back. So I saw through Al Jennings get hurt.
• 54:29
  Speaker 14: I'm a little worried about what's going to happen when.
• 54:31
  Speaker 15: We go, you know, if we're going to the playoffs,
• 54:33
  Speaker 15: we try.
• 54:34
  Speaker 14: To make a run. What do you guys think our
• 54:35
  Speaker 14: options are now that the trade deadline has passed by
• 54:39
  Speaker 14: Thanks take it off.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: The okay, thanks rolling with what they got. I mean
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I think you're looking at getting Remondre back so yeah,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's the.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: That's the best case scenario. I mean Henderson, I think
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: this has allowed him to break out a little bit
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: and playing a little bit more and getting some opportunities,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: and hopefully that continues, and then you get Remondre back, and.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe Jennings is healthy, can sprinkle in Jennings as
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: the third back, maybe spell Remandree a little bit. But
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: I think, I mean, I think, if anything, it would
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: really benefit Henderson to be able to not have to
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: be so much in the spotlight and be able to
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: pick your spots with him, and maybe these plays from
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: last week will give him some confidence.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: Brianna's from southern cal you know where.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: She wants to thank us. She's been listening since twenty sixteen.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: We make all the ups and ups fun and the
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: downs easier to stomach. This year has brought me so
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: much joy. However, my husband says I need heart medication
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: after watching the last two games. Of course, I'd rather
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: be doing well, but just but last year was a
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: little easier on my heart in mental health. Really, guess
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the anxiety is a good sign. I'll take it. Also,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of arguments this year especially between Paul and Evan.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I think that means we're back. Go Pats, and thanks
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: for all you guys do for us.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: Definitely different, definitely different on a seven game winster than
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: a four win season for sure.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Still have to get to those agrievances. Oh yeah, what
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: Before lunch because after we'll do it after.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do it after because I just feel like,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: you know, there were some things that I need to
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: work on the tape.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive, defensive well, Rhett writes in He says Drake
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: cannot throw that end zone interception with five minutes left
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Otherwise it was an MVP performance.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure we win if Baker had all his weapons,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Evans God went Bucky. He was relying on two rookie
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: wide receivers and ted Igbuka and Tez. Yes, I know
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: we were missing Booty and Stevenson two, but Hollins and
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Henderson stepped up big. Lastly, good news for the Patriots.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: The Chiefs will play the Colts the Chargers in the
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Broncos twice, meaning we have a good chance of getting
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: the number one seed, or Chiefs could lose these games
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: and likely be eliminated from playoff contention.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: I think that this year, maybe more than any other
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: year that I've been interested in, the playoff seeding, the
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: number one seed might be the most important it's ever been,
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: because the three wild card teams are going to be
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: like Buffalo, Casey and Baltimore, you know, like so like
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: as great of a year as they've had. If you
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: you know, are the two or three seed and then
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Buffalo's coming here wild card weekend like that, all could
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: go up in flames, really really quickly.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: So so, Paul, A lot of people compare, is this
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: team like the one team? Is it more like the
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: ninety sixteen where that year Denver got knocked out and
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: the Patriots ended up having that home game, remember on
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: the path to the super Bowl?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: No, I do remember. I don't know if I would
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: This to me is different because I think you have
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's ninety six ish. You know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you have a second year quarterback. You know, Drew was
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: in what fourth year at the time.
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: There's a team that I you know, I'm not telling
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: you I want to play that gauntlet that Devon just
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: talked about. But in ninety six. I did not want
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to play Denver. I don't know if there's a team
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: that I would say that about. Okay, yeah, it's not
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: a top you know again, what I'd rather play Jacksonville.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Let's let's say that they get the let's say they
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: win the division, but they don't get the number one
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: seed and they're the two seed, so you play seven.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I'll take Jacksonville or the Chargers over Kansas City or Baltimore,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: which would be the options, you know. But I'm not
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: necessarily sitting there saying, oh geez, I don't want to
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: have to host Kansas City. We had no shots a
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: little there's no good team.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Elicit your chops to play run defense is so good.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a really interesting matchup that i'd love
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: to see. I'd love to see it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's it's exactly what you're thinking when they
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: go against a team like that. But they're they're they've
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: got a gauntlet to go through to I think they'll
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: they'll they'll middle out a little bit.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: I just worried, Like I wouldn't say they have no chance,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: but I worry that a team like Kansas City is
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: going to turn the flip the switch. Oh yeah, like Baltimore,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: everybody's going right. I I you know, Buffalo is a
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: little bit different because they shouldn't be flipping switches.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: They should be They're going the other way with the injury, right.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: The other teams are getting healthy, they're going the other right.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Like if Kansas City.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: When the windows shut, you get hurt, get there, crap
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: togetherst year, everybody stayed healthy for them.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: What with Oliver? Is he out for Yeah?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: But is that like, you know, is.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: Kansas City like the the end of the Brady era,
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: like in twenty eighteen where they kind of stumble into
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: the playoffs but then once they get in, they flip
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: the switch and all of a sudden they're in the
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: super Bowl again.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Like that would not be my first choice.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Alex is in Pennsylvania.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Hey Alex, Hey friend, what's going on? Hey?
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: Hey, So, I just thinking the other day when I
• 59:57
  Speaker 10: was watching this game that I can't remember having this
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 10: much fun watching a team. You know, even to get
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 10: back to to Deuce where I first started listening with
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: Deuces first week. But you know, even in the Brady area,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: the expectations were so high and I just feel like
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: this this team is so much fun to watch, and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: you know that goal line stand in Rabel going forward
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 10: on fourth down, even though I probably wasn't the happiest person,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 10: but it worked out well. I just I just have
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: so much fun watching it. It's just feels a little
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: less stressful and.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 12: A lot more fun.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every week is different. You know, something somebody else
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: steps up. It's it's been great to watch. Thanks Alex
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: so he brought up going forward on fourth down. I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: think it's time for Paul's school of clock management. What
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: did you think about Trevian Should he have gone in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and scored or not?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about that.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Do you think he should have he.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Should have gone down? You think he should have became
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about the end of the game, At
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the end of the game. Yeah, but you really don't listen.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't kill him for
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: scoring because either way the game should be over. If
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you go win and score, you have a two score
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: lead with the minute and a half left, the game
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: should be over. And if you lose, it's not Trevi
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: on Henderson's fault that you lost. If you give up
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: a touchdown and on side kick and a touchdown. That said,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: if he goes down, you can't lose unless you fumble
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: the snap. Yep, because you take three knees and the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: game's over. Yeah, I think you people do in the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: playoffs right, sort of confusing something. The Bucks had two
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: timeouts left and they think, well, one play, two plays, timeout, timeout. No,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: they would have had to take a timeout before first
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: down because after Trevion's run. After the run, so let's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: just say there is a minute twenty five left, they
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: have to call timeout. So now you run a play,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: maybe you have drake, you know, step back a couple
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: of yards, takes three or four seconds off the clock.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Time out. Now they can't stop the clock anymore. You
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: can do that two more times. The game's over. But
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill a kid for going into
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: the end zone to give a two school a lead.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: In the final time.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: I would have given him the green light, let him score.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: In the moment, I was like, go kid, go finish
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: your great day. But then when you really think about it,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: it's hard to do the math on the in the moment.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Well, the end of the half, that's what I wanted
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: to that's the next one.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: That's the next one not.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Scoring on purpose?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Loved it.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: It didn't matter.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: If I.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely loved it. Now I would have scored.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: Popped into my head and I was like, I need
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: a Paul Cameron.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I would have scored before fourth down.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: I probably would would have like was nothing whole, but
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: to do what they did on first down, to bleed
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: forty seconds off the clock, I thought was was like,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: you think that was a masterclass some of those Yeah,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: like the old Belichick, you know Strokes a genius, Like
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I thought that was exactly it. And I thought that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: his answer Rabel after the game told me it was
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: exactly it because he was so coy about I think
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: it was Greg that asked the question, but Dard and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: he wouldn't answer whether or not it was on purpose
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: or not. And I think that that told me that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: he was doing it on purpose, and so it was
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: on purpose.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you didn't like that, I'm out hated it.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: So you don't like giving up downs.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I was told that it's hard to do these things
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: in this league, hard to win, it's hard to score. Yes,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: I guess it's not. They just decided that we're going
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: to score on fourth down.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: Wow, I don't think that was the plan, agreed, Yeah,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: I think you did it once, Like second, third, and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: fourth down are like, now you need to try to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: score on second starting on second right, but on first down,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: like why not? Like you, I don't understand because it's hard,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: but you still.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Have three more downs.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: You have it, right, you have it in your mind.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: It's four downs. We're going to do this on four downs.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Or even two downs, like even if you're going to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: kick the field goal on fourth down, like, you still
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: have two more plays from the one yard line. If
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: you can't score in three plays on the one yard line,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: then you stink like that.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: That's that's what they don't stink. But it came really clothed.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: They came in an unbelievable catch away from not scoring
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: on four months right. Yeah, it's one of the best
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: catches of the season. They flirted a little bit too
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: close to this, and I don't think the I think
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: the other team was trying to keep them out and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: it's hard distinct.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: Thing was a.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: Dante Scarneckia thing. If you can't get one yard, no,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: I don't need that's a hard yard to get.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: I just.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting to see that this year. I'm not
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: expecting to see that again this year too.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Cute.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I mean what it made me think about though, is
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: not necessarily this game.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: But if that's Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen and this
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: is a playoff game and you're saying we can't give
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: the ball back to these guys, you know, that's where
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: I kind of start to live where teams score if
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: there's twenty seconds left, there's a chance they're getting I.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: Think it makes a big difference to the end of.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Want to score because I have the other team that
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: I respect their ability to score, so I need to score.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: But is it we're taking an extra step to say
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: we're not only going to score, but we got to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: make sure that we do everything we can to not
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: lead this guy enough time to exactly.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I disagree.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, they had it totally perfectly set up, Like
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: de Deuce's point. They what Kensey scored in what twelve
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: seconds against Buffalo in the playoffs, like this is that's.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: A desperation situation at the end of the game where
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: if you don't score, the season's over. They're not going
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: to be the same kind of urgency at the end
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: of a half.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: I think if they got the ball, if they score
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: on first down, I think there would have been like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: a minute left.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, that's different if if you scored. But I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: don't know why. It's okay if we're down ten to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: seven at the half, but not okay if we're down
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen at the half, Like if we go in
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and score and make it fourteen ten. The worst that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: could have happened is you left them too much time
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: and they got on score a touchdown. But they were
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: content to only be up, be down ten to seven
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: because they didn't really care if they scored or not.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: They just wanted to get the clock running.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's fair to say. I think they
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: were just being a little risky there.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I think that was too I can't do this. I'm out.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I'm out. What it's analysis, it's fair analysis. You don't
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: have to agree with every call.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Not here, it's not. Oh, it's unnecessarily objective.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: No, listen.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Santo has the Good and bads for Drake May. We
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: want objectivity, here we go, says the Good. May continues
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: to hit his targets at an unbelievable rate lower than
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: his average. The bad may floats the ball in the rain.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: I wonder if the coaches are preparing Drake for the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: bad weather a practice. I have some concerns.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Well, here comes. Do you agree?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: I I.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: This is a cause and effect thing. I agree that
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: the first few passes of the game were floated. I'm
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: not necessarily telling you it's because of the rain. I've
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: seen him do this early in games behind you Pars, Okay,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that that's why. Tony Romo said
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: he is struggling throwing the ball in the rain. He
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: knows a hell of a lot more about quarterback player
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: than I will ever talk about.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: His Well, he was struggling and it was raining, so
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: you know, he's kind of.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Under the ball a little bit. I just think the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: point you made is we've seen that before. He's a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: little high. Come out, he's a little high. I mean,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: that's early in the times.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: It's a thing we talked about the ugly Drake's interception
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: in the end zone.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Most concerning Drake got hit in the head just a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: few minutes earlier.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I'm so worried about his health and now and now
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: the great Drake had to deal with a rather poor
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: running game minus two super runs throwing against the top defense.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: I do not care what his rating is in this game.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: This is clearly an MVP move. Stanford has plenty of
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: targets and a better O line. I wish I had
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: a vote. Stafford wrote, literally, he had a PhD, so
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if he went to Stanford, and it
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: was just relating to his school.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: But all right, how Paul feels about talking about the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: end of the half is how I feel about talking
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: about Tony Romo. Like, I'm just not going to do
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: it today. But I thought that he did you listen to.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it like, and I don't have to.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 11: I was.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I was pissed about this for like two days, but
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: like this is like you were listening to him. It
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: was as mad at that as it was nationally. This is, oh,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: It's so like, okay, so you you haven't you haven't
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: been on this on a Drake may game ever, you've
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: never called him. And then you go on the broadcast
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: and you have all these opinions about his throwing motion
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: and the rain and this that the other thing, and
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: then you tell people that he can't throw the ball
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: in the rain because you have never seen him throw
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: the ball in the rain.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: This is the first time you're watching him ever throw
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: the ball in the rain, period, because you've never seen
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: him play in person.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: If he had.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Decided to, I don't know, maybe watch all of the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: games this year, he would have seen another one in
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the rain where he didn't throw that in the rain,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: he would have had more ammunition. But evidently that was
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: the first time you ever saw him throw in the rain.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: And so he says this, it's the first time I've
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: ever seen him throw in the rain. It says, the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: first time you've ever seen him throw, period, Tony, you've
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: never called one of.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: His games before.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: So if you knew, like Paul said, that every once
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: in a while he's a little jacked up and he
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: comes out and he airmails him throws early on in
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: the game, and then he settles into the game and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: he usually throws the ball. Well, then if you knew that,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: then maybe you wouldn't make a big deal out of this,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: so I don't have to spend two freaking days listening.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Well, is it a concern that he throws the ball
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: well in the rain is going to be you know Evan,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Like Tony Romo said, Yeah, Tony.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I noticed after the game, Nance was up in the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: press box, you know, passing through, and he had a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: big entourage with him.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: Romo wasn't with him. No, he must have left separately.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Not all of us can play in domes our entire career,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: Tony roll, Why don't you go.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Work on holding extra points?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Person?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: So did you actually listen to Hi during the game,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: or is this all retroactive?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: You're hearing the retroactor because it's you.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: What it is is It's like I'm sitting there, I'm
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: not watching the broadcast, right, That's I know.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I'm very lucky. I get to be at the games.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not watching the broadcast. But then my mentions are
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: just flooded with these narratives that are just coming out
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: of nowhere to me, like I have no on the bad, right,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: I have no idea what anybody's talking about. So finally,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: you know, there was a throw to Hunter Henry that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: they were they were on different pages, you know, Hunter
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: Henry sat Drake May thought he was going to break
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: he sat whatever, and then Tony Romo is saying it's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Hunter Henry's fault, and I'm just getting oh, Hunter Henry
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: bad route, and I'm.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Like, who's this and it's Tony freaking Rome.
• 1:10:33
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• 1:10:36
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• 1:10:56
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• 1:10:59
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  Speaker 8: I thought, well, and I think you see him pull
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  Speaker 8: it always can be better, you know, But I thought
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  Speaker 8: we gave ourselves a chance and protection, and there was
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  Speaker 8: a couple of times where you know, the pressure got
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  Speaker 8: to us. So we'll keep working on it. We'll keep
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  Speaker 8: you know, talking to Drake and then allowing him to extend,
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  Speaker 8: but also be being smart when he does extend.
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  Speaker 1: Drives outsensive drives in the third quarter. Roc the last
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  Speaker 1: six or seven weeks, you guys have had a good
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  Speaker 1: success in each one of them.
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  Speaker 8: Are there any commonalities undertaining that every game is?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, but are there any commonalities when you are able
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  Speaker 1: to successful?
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  Speaker 8: Yesterday is a little different, just because the X play.
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  Speaker 8: I think just trying to get into a rhythm for
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  Speaker 8: us is probably always key. It's like a lot of offenses.
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  Speaker 8: Is trying to get into a rhythm and have a
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  Speaker 8: flow to you that allows you to you know, mixed packages,
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  Speaker 8: mix plays. You know, show looks, compliment looks that you showed,
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  Speaker 8: so I think that's important, or just hit a big
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  Speaker 8: play that that helps too.
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  Speaker 1: How important is self scouting at this point in the
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  Speaker 1: season and is it harder when you've got so long
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  Speaker 1: that out of buy and obviously they want a short week.
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  Speaker 8: I think we're always trying to figure out what other
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  Speaker 8: teams are looking at, seeing what works, and making sure
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  Speaker 8: that our players understand that that there's going to be
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: things that that people are going to do and when
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  Speaker 8: you see it on tape. He didn't take somebody to
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  Speaker 8: be that creative to say, hey we should try this.
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  Speaker 8: So you have to learn from the things that you're
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  Speaker 8: seeing and be ready to anticipate, you know, things there's
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  Speaker 8: you want to turn into a completely game plan and
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  Speaker 8: team and change things. You want to do things that
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  Speaker 8: your players are comfortable with and understand, but then know
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  Speaker 8: what that comes. You know, some things that you're going
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: to have to defend based on the fact that you
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  Speaker 8: are in certain coverages or you're in you know, certain
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  Speaker 8: play you and run certain plays offensively, which is fine.
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  Speaker 8: There has to be a good balance, uh to that.
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  Speaker 8: You don't want to just make stuff up every week.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you learn anything about the short week, either
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  Speaker 1: as a player or a coach, that kind of gives
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  Speaker 1: you an idea of what's best for your team, uh.
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  Speaker 8: Because each one different is man, I think you just
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  Speaker 8: instead of just running around here telling everybody it's Thursday,
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  Speaker 8: that's about it. It's about all you can do. And
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  Speaker 8: I've tried to do that to the best of my
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  Speaker 8: ability so far. Today. Just try to get physically recovered
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  Speaker 8: the best that we can. Tough game on the road.
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  Speaker 8: So we'll try to do that, and then just keep
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  Speaker 8: in mind everybody it's Thursday. They believe it. I don't
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  Speaker 8: you have to ask them.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like prectic seasons started.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just curious what you see from this groove and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 8: furiously a little good physicality. Well, I think he's comfortable.
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  Speaker 8: I think he's, you know, again, been able to been available,
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  Speaker 8: which is really important. Finding some ball production, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I mean breaking the passes up. They made a really
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  Speaker 8: good play on him yesterday in the end zone, which
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: was you know, I was asking, hey, did he look back.
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  Speaker 8: Did he go with the wrong hand, you know, guys
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: upstairs and are like, no, he didn't look back and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 8: it's perfect ball and then beat him in the end zone.
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  Speaker 8: So but I think you see him becoming more comfortable
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  Speaker 8: and willing to to trigger and tackling in this league
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: so critical of the back end to eliminate you know,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 8: those big plays in the running game or short passes,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: and you know they've done a good job of that.
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  Speaker 1: He mentioned after the game that he tries to prepare
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  Speaker 1: every week like he is a starter.
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  Speaker 16: I'm curious if that's something you've noticed from him during practice,
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  Speaker 16: just the way that he has.
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  Speaker 2: Been preparing this season.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I think so, I hope so. I mean
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  Speaker 8: that's what we ask of all the players, and I
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  Speaker 8: think that you know, Kyle is a good mixture of
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 8: getting some reps with our offense and also working on
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: the show team to be able to improve that way
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: and work and develop. So anything that he can do
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  Speaker 8: and we can do to help them get ready for
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  Speaker 8: the game and gain confidence and those types of things.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm all for on sidekick there as perfectly executed
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 8: with Diggs and in any way an adjustment to a
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  Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago when another team got well, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I mean you have to determine what they're going to do,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 8: you know, trying to figure out what they're going to do,
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  Speaker 8: you know, the different types of kicks and the locations,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 8: and you don't have so many people to work with
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  Speaker 8: at the line of scrimmage where you can allocate bodies.
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  Speaker 8: So that was a huge recovery. Great play by a
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: player that we trust, and we have to try to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: go and protect him. That's something that we always talk about,
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  Speaker 8: So try to get as many bodies as we can
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  Speaker 8: in front of them, and you know we didn't. It's
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: hard to get them all blocked, especially with a good
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: kick like that, and Digsy went up and was able
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 8: to secure it.
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  Speaker 1: Like Court Garden has brought the teams it's got.
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  Speaker 8: I think he's excited about playing. I think he brings
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: a good size, good physicality, good energy. It seems like
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  Speaker 8: he's always, you know, excited after every player or the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 8: plays that he's involved with. So I think he's one
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: of those players. It's like a lot of guys taking
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  Speaker 8: advantage of the opportunity that he's gotten. And you know,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 8: well somewhere else and they made a decision. We were
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: able to bring him in and quickly elevate him and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 8: bring him on, and he's done a good job.
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  Speaker 16: What's it out to you about working with Bett Hollins?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: What's it like or what's it mean? I'm sorry?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: What you what's out to you about working them?
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  Speaker 15: Uh?
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  Speaker 8: So far from the time that I've met him till now. Oh,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 8: you know, I think just mackett. I I appreciate his professionalism.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: I think at uh you know, don't don't judge a
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  Speaker 8: book by its cover.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: You know. He walks around like and see no man
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: and but he's but he's smart, he's easy to talk to,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: enjoy our conversations, great family. I was able to see
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: his family yesterday after the game, so that was fun.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: I think he's a good leader. I think he does
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: a lot of different things for us, and I like
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: having a meter, like are you a film on the plane?
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  Speaker 10: Guy?
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  Speaker 1: Does any of your routine change? Coming into a short
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: week here.
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  Speaker 8: We tried to move on to the Jets as as
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: quickly as possible. You know, I think everybody was trying
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: to move ahead as quickly as possible, whether that be
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 8: some of the players or or the coaches. So that
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: was something that we did. And again, we're lucky to
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: have a fantastic video staff, great department that works well
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 8: with the coaches and provides us with everything that we
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  Speaker 8: need and Teddy and Jared and his crew, and so
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: just thankful that those guys are always ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: And now great moments in history. The girl talking about
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  Speaker 1: what's what's the update, what's the update? Diana, let me
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  Speaker 1: you know, we should probably take a break so we
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  Speaker 1: can hear this breaking news. Her talking about Doug Marron's
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  Speaker 1: job right like her jumpsuit, she looks good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad we have female representation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, furthering women in sports for generations to come. I
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  Speaker 2: wasted that down at the end of the half. Alan
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  Speaker 5: And where's Tony from? Uh from the UK both agree
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  Speaker 5: that it was a sign.
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  Speaker 2: Of confidence in the team that he did that believes
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  Speaker 2: I agree. So he had confidence that they were going
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  Speaker 2: to get the job done and run time off the clock.
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  Speaker 5: So and I agree ultimately he was right.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Veterans Ada Marine there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Happy a Veteran's Day to everybody out there, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: For your serving. Matt's hurting a little bit today after yesterday.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: He was hanging in there. He's playing hurt.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what happened?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Self inflicted?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: More than that, dude.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Matt, they like him and his brother locked
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: themselves in a basement and they drink and fight each
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  Speaker 6: other for like twelve hours.
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  Speaker 1: Is that about right?
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  Speaker 2: Mat?
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  Speaker 1: We had actually two extra marines with us this year,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: So I four marines fighting each other. Who love it?
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  Speaker 1: Not a fireball? Fireball? Early too well? He was in
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  Speaker 1: like a little after eight because there was no traffic
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  Speaker 1: Temple holiday. Yeah, let's get back to the phones.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, they are stacked. We'll go to Randy in Providence.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Randy?
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  Speaker 1: Randy?
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  Speaker 17: Hey, how's girling? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Randy Watson.
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  Speaker 17: I so I have two questions for you guys. Number
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  Speaker 17: one about the edge depth, because Landrys, do you guys
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  Speaker 17: think he's fully healthy? It's been three games without a fact,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 17: the last one of them was in Tennessee and he
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 17: had that turned ankle in there. I don't know if
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 17: he's playing fully healthy. But what do you guys think
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 17: about Chason's future with this team? I mean, I feel
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 17: like he's at a point where he's probably locked in
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 17: a multi year extension at the end of the year.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Do you guys agree he's playing that way.
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  Speaker 4: I just think it's going to get expensive if he
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: keeps on this trajectory. So I'm interested to see what
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: they what they think about that. You know, former first
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: round pick who's really stacked two years of good football
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: in a row now, because he had a decent year
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: last year with the Raiders too. So if he gets
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: the double digit sacks and two straight years a pretty
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: good production, I think he's going to get paid a
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 6: So coupled with Landry maybe fading Yeah, no, it does
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  Speaker 6: Landry turn it around.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they have Landry support it.
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  Speaker 6: But if you know, if they realistically think that maybe
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: this is just Landry's fading out, then maybe you got
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: to make a move for Chase on to at least
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: solidify one of those spots.
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  Speaker 17: And we saw a Ponder start to produce a little
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 17: bit in this game, and I wonder if he becomes
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  Speaker 17: a more key piece of the rotation as the second
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 17: half of the season plays out.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, there's one more.
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  Speaker 17: Quick question for you guys. I know you guys have
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 17: talked about kind of slow starting for Drake in terms
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 17: of like miss throws and stuff in the first quarters
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  Speaker 17: and I was kind of looking at the numbers, and
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 17: two numbers kind of popped out to me. Scoring by
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 17: quarter in the first, second, and third quarter, we are sixth, fifth,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 17: and fifth, respectively. In the fourth quarter, we're twenty ninth
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 17: in the league, just four point six points per game
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 17: per quarter. On the flip side of that, the defense
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 17: twenty sixth in the first quarter, letting out five point
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 17: seven points per quarter, but the second, third, and fourth
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 17: quarters are second, second, and eleventh, respectively.
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  Speaker 15: So like by the.
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  Speaker 17: Numbers, the defense is kind of a slow start, and
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 17: yet the offense seems to stay down the stretch. I
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  Speaker 17: wonder what you guys make of those numbers. I'll just
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 17: hang up and listen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, Randy.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think it's you know, I'm just looking at
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: the numbers as you are saying them. I think it's
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: that middle of the game that they're dominating. Second and
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: third quarters I think have been pretty good. And I
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: would check up the lack of points in the fourth
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: quarters because you're in the generally you've had the lead
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: and you don't need to score. The slow starts are
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: pretty self evident. They've given up a lot of first
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: drive scores, you know, more than you'd like. But the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter the other team has been able to score
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: as well. It's the middle there, you know, like twenty
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: nine points in the third quarter. The Bucks scored a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: touchdown in the third quarter. I want to say it
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: was like the first one in like four weeks, first
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: points all out in the third quarter in a while.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: I know Atlanta and Cleveland didn't score, and those are
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: the two most recent games, right, yep, So it's been
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: a while since they've given up third quarter points. I
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: think that's where they're really controlling the game. And a
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: lot of it is they've been fortunate with the deferring.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: They're winning the coin tosses and getting the defer and
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: they're doubling up they're getting so that takes a lot
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: of that time a coin toss man. But that's like,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: it's so true. It's such an underrated part of the game.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: And that's why I never understand why anybody would ever
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: choose to get the ball at the beginning of the game,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: because that is such a To score twice in a
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: row is such an advantage, and they've done it now.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I think they did it. Cleveland, Tennessee double dip back
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: in this game.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: They only tick the field goal in New Orleans.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: No, it's not always touchdown. Touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: This game was.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: Touchdown, one of them they only get. Yeah, they so
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: Cleveland was a field goal touchdown. Baker Mayfield leaves the
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: field in the second quarter with a ten to seven lead.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: The next time he touches the ball, it's twenty one
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: to ten Patriots.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: And that's just the old Belichick no turn, no stops,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: nothing like. They just got the ball twice in a row.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: And if you defer, you give yourself that chance where
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: you can you can score at the end of the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: half and then get the ball to start the second half.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a tremendous advantage.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they weren't doing it very well at the beginning
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: of the year either, and it was something that was
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: standing out that they weren't controlling the middle eight and
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: then the middle AG's the last four minutes of the
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: first half, in the first four minutes of the third quarter,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: you can double dip and basically put the game away.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: And they used to do it, you know, the Brady
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: Patriots used to do it like every week. But this
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: team is starting to do it a lot more and
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: they're like automatic on the coin toss. I think they've
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: won like eight out of ten coin tosses or something
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: like that. It's like something crazy like that. So they've
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: done a really nice job in that.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Peter in the Netherlands has a good email about Evan xenophobia,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to save it for the newsletter.
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  Speaker 4: I said, I don't know, Alex so with xenophobia of aliens,
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  Speaker 4: I'm afraid of aliens.
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  Speaker 5: It's kind of a fear of people from other country
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: owners foreigners.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking a xeno morph So you'll you'll
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  Speaker 5: I understand it has to do with your gatekeeper.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good. Yeah, I'm very proud of.
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  Speaker 11: You.
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  Speaker 4: your sibling relentlessly, but then if anybody else makes fun
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  Speaker 4: of your sibling, then your back gets up. That's how
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: I feel about Drake May.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: But I criticize.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: No, No, everybody's sitting in the swim can criticize. Everybody
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: in the swim can criticize because we all and we're
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: all around him at least a decent amount. We all
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: watch him play every single game. You know, these people
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: that parachute in and watch one game in one quarter.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: You're going to have to share him. No, it's not yours,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to share.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: I critique him, you know, all the time, but I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: come from a place of watching him every single week
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: and watching him make every single throw of his NFL
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: career so far. And then you know, you have these
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: national people or Tony Romo, who's.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: Coming out of dollars to give their opinion, and I
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: don't want them.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: To do it, No, I just want them to be
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: educated when they do.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 6: Brother, that's it better come correct and you come to Evan, yeah,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: or you know, I'm gonna let you hear about it.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: Like I could sit here and say that that interception
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: was clearly can't have it, like they absolutely just cannot
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: have that.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: But but Tony Romo cannot say that.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: And Tony Romo can't say, after three passes that he's
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: seen Drake may throw ever in his life, that he
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: can't throw the ball in the rain.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 7: And it's more protective of Drake than Drake's three brothers
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: older brothers are of him.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know them keep defending that wall.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 7: Well until I hear Luke publicly calling out Tony Romo
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 7: like you'll.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Do it for you.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: You're like, you're like the equivalent of a SWIFTYE for Drake.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: May you know, don't come after my quarterback.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 15: I don't know.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: I love it, I said swiftly. You keep you keep
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: defending that wall. You go, Shakari writ sin she says,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: or he says, I'm not sure. Mike is my favorite
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: to listen. I was wondering, what is your take on
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Gronk's press conference tomorrow? Oh, so Gronk is having a
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: press conference to announce he's retiring as a Patriot. Seems
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: a little It'll be at twelve fifteen during the show.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: You have some info on that can actually right?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 7: I'm random, however, So if you guys know, Gronk opened
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: up a playground this year in Boston, proper, and there's
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 7: a woman named Susan Hurley who really helped him out
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: with that. She's actually a former Patriots cheerleader, but she
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 7: started a nonprofit called I Believe It's Charity Teams. She
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: would work with like the Bill Belichick Foundation, the Patriots
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: Foundation to help their marathon teams raise money. Gronk and
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 7: her were incredibly close, and she was a huge driving
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: force behind the Gronk playground. Unfortunately, she passed away from
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: cancer on November first, and essentially the last time her
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: and Gronk were together was the playground unveiling and Susan
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 7: spoke at a podium with a bunch of media and
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 7: children that were about to break ground on the playground,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 7: and in her speech, she looked over to mister Kraft,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 7: who was there as well, and said, mister Kraft, what
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 7: do you say, Like, let's make Gronk a patriot for life,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 7: Like let's sign the one day contract and get this done.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 7: And Robert Kraft gave her the thumbs up. So the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 7: hope was that she would be here for this, and.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately she'll be here in spirit.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, great woman, like unbelievable woman.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: At the time, he does feel random, But I just
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: use to get Rob Gronkowski back in this building, and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: she's just the best.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: Not every player does that. Why do you think Gronkowski
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: wants to do.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: This because of the story.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: I think diving force for it.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: It was almost like a I didn't think of that.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: This woman was really powerful influence on Gronk. Okay, yeah,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: like they were incredibly close.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 7: She gave a speech at this groundbreaking ceremony. Gronk cried
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 7: at it. Oh it and like there wasn't like just
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: talking about the journey of them working together and how hard.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 7: And the part that I think made him cry was
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 7: it's right across from a hospital, so where Gronk did
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: one of his rehabs, he looked down on this parking
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: lot every day and was like, wow, that'd be a
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 7: sick spot to ramp up up playground. And then Susan,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 7: when she was retrieving receiving treatment for ovarian cancer, was
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: looking down on the same playground. So that really brought
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 7: him to tears, and like he I've never seen Gronk cry,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 7: so this was really emotional. I'm sure mister Craft also
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 7: would love to have him sign, but it's one of
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 7: those things where unless the player goes to you and
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 7: brings it up, it's kind of an awkward thing. Like
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 7: I don't think mister Krafft wants to be like, hey,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 7: do you want to retire a Patriot? But when you
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: have those three forces mister Kraft, Susan Hurley, and all
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: together in one place, it was kind of just like.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: And very likely the Hall of Fame guy next year
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: for Patriots Hall of Fame, right, Like he's going to
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: be eligible, so that'll be a party too.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: So very cool playground. I drive by it quite a
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: bit and it's awesome.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I say Strow funny apparently, but it's on stro
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: Drive right on the water and uh yeah, it's really
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: cool spot, like right on the water, like Alex said
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: it's and it's packed all the time.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever I drive by it, there's a million.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 7: Prime real estate and there's a gronks a ball being
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 7: spiked that is like part of the jungle gym.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a can see the sign right from the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: from the street and it's pretty cool.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 7: There's quotes from all the Boston athletes on it, like
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 7: inspirational little messages from like Tom Brady.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: Brady officially retired.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: I guess that was that big thing we did last year, right, Well, no.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, but he still Patriot.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: You have to in the NFL, there's a you know,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: like paperwork where you actually declare you're retired.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's an owner now too, so I
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know. If he could come back
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: either way. I mean, there's a lot of paperwork seem
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: like for him.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: To sign, because certain things kick in once you retire,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, I.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: Have a question, just what if Bill Belichick was interested
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: in the New York Giants job. He's you know, could
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: very well next week be announced as the head coach
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: candidate for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. If he
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: signs with the you know, the Giants in June or January,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: does that take him out of the running or is
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: he still.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: Allowed to help you know, because that happened, right, yeah?
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 15: Yeah?
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: Was it the Redskins.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: I think Joe Gibbs was coaching as a member of
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: It happens more in the NBA. It happens a lot
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: in the NBA that guys are already in the Basketball
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame that are coaching. I think Greg Popovich
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: went in when he was still coaching.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 13: But Brady's retirement letter to the NFL and NFLPA was
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 13: February first, twenty twenty three.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, so he did officially tire the second time, right, Yes,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: there's time.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: It's personal. I'm sorry, that's a different thing.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: Talwinder from California. You know Telwind Oh very well.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you guys have talked about how this
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: is the first year of Mike Rabel's program and we
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: are too early to be making some noise in the playoffs.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: I understand the easy schedule might be playing a part
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: in us being at eight and two, but this is
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Every week is tough. Just look at the
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: Dolphins beating the Bills this weekend, Panthers beating the Packers
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: in Green Bay last weekend. I think our team has
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: something special cooking. We will be going fourteen and three
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: and getting a bye, get ready to host the AFC
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Championship game. I'll see you at Santa Clara in early February.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: All right, I think we're going to be seen in
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: Santa Clara regardless, because the NFL Honors is in Santa
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: Clara as well, and I'm.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: Sure the rest of the year assistent.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and here is point.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think any of us are sitting here saying
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: that they can't make noise in them, like the.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Whole impression has changed.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: I think they're pretty good.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: Based on ten weeks. If you still think of it
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: the way you did you know in March, then you're
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: not watching You're not watching not only the Patriots, but
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: you're not watching the other teams if not the Patriots.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Like what what which one of the teams I wont
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: teams in the football one of them? Last night?
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have trouble.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, I'm gonna sit down and wat
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Fred, thank you, thanks for triggering. I'm not
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: even gonna say what I was going to say. I
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: want to that, but just not paying attention to the league.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: If you still think that, well, the Patriots are a
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: nice little story, but they can't make any noise. Of course,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: they can make noise. There's no teams that are out
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: there playing great football. There were I would say a
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: half dozen or so good teams, maybe ten good teams.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: But I don't look at anybody as saying like, there's
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: no way the Patriots can match up and play against
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Kansas City or Seattle or you know, the Rams whoever.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: I don't don't look at any of these teams that way.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of things. I had my grievances. Let's
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: get them out now.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: He just like, because because I need to get it.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: It's part of this conversation though, because we are talking
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: about this team potentially making a run in the playoffs,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: and it is all sunshines and rainbows right now. But
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: there are a few things that are starting and I'm
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: not talking about one off things. I think their run
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: defense this week was a little bit weaker than it
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: normally has been. Uh, that's something that I think is
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: percolating under the surface. They weren't going to completely shut
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: out every run game they face, but this was not.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's rush offense was not great shakes. They didn't
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: have Bucky Irving their top running back, and this was basically,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: statistically across the board, the Patriots worst run defense performance
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: of the year, whether it was yards per carry, e
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: P A success rate, explosive runs, you know, all the
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: way down the line. Uh, they face a Jets team
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: on Thursday night that doesn't have a lot going for it.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: I get that, but they are one of the better,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: more explosive run offenses in the league with a very
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: mobile quarterback.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: So that was one.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: The other thing, you know, we talked a little bit
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: off the air. They are every single week they bust
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: the coverage in the red zone and give up a
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: wide open play, So that's frustrating. You know, Harold Fannin
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: busted coverage, wide open touchdown. This week, a Mecha Buka
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: on the opening drive, busted coverage, wide open touchdown. So
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: the red zone defense continues to be a big picture concern.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: And then also you know, in like the little things
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: you know that they're doing in terms of the coverage
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: is not going super hot either. And then the last one,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: We've talked about it a couple times, but you know
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: that pick, like he just can't throw that interception like
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: that either needs to be in structure to Matt Collins,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: which I think he had him if he just threw
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: it on time to Matt Collins in the back of
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: the end zone, or that needs to be in the
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: tenth row. And I know that he's going to sit
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: here and say, I'm not going to change my playing style.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: I'm always going to do, you know, make that same
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: throw over and over again. I'll you know, I think
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: Mike Rabel might have something to say about that, because
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: that's that's a field goal at an eight point game,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: you know, And and now you're you're really in the
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: driver's seat like that you can't throw that pick. But
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: the defense stuff I think is notable, especially you know,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: as we start to segue to this Jets game a
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: little bit. Uh, they can run the ball. They are
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: a really good running team. And this was the first
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: time all year where I thought that there was some
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: cracks in the run defense a little bit. And I
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: think if the Bucks had had Bucky Irving then it
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: might have hurt them more, you know, the fact that
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: it was their backup running back.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: So the Jets, I mean, we'll turn the page tomorrow.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: But the Jets scored on special teams twice twice.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they had They're you know, third in the
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: league right now in explosive runs.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: They are.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: They're not necessarily the most consistent running team, but they
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: break big runs. It's kind of like the Patriots last week.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: You know, they'll have these big runs. Bris Hall will
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: have big runs, and they can run the football, and
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: they run it unconventionally because they have the quarterback involved,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: so there's a lot of readoptiones and things like that.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: Evidently he hasn't decided when they know who, they know
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: who's going to play, but they won't they won't say
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: who's going to play. And if it's Tyrod Taylor. You
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: can forget that part of it. Yeah, it's not. He's
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: equally as bad a thrower as Justin Fields, but he's
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: not nearly the runner that Justin Fields is. So Taylor please.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: Another another little thing on that though, is that the
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 6: Justice had their buy too, so, you know, the short
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: week it's just a little bit of an advantage for them.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: Where the Patriots are on a tail in a ten
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: straight weeks. The Jets have had a week off, you know,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: last week, so you know, they're they had a game
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: under their belt against Cleveland. They were able to win,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: you know, just maybe a little bit of an event.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: Physical right and as a physical offensive line, they run
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: the ball a lot. You know, they're run first team truly.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: Uh And the Patriots on defense for the first time
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: all year, showed a little bit of Yeah.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: I mean it's going to be tough to prepare. I
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: mean they haven't played the Jets yet. Rabel hasn't played
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: the Jets yet, so and you've got, you know, a
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: few days to get ready for this game.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: It's it's a tough spot for the Pagos.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot to get ready for,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: but there are some necessarily objective. We're going to have
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: point favorites at home on a Thursday night, this late
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: in the season. I don't know they should not get in.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: They should obviously, Okay, so you'll be lockin a lot.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I should obviously wait.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: But like, it would be one thing I think if
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: this was a conventional run offense, where like the quarterbacks
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: just under center and turning around and handing the ball
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: off to Breeze Hall, like those ones that, like you,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: you don't really need to prepare for. It's just kind
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: of a mindset thing with their run game because of
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: justin fields, Like they run a lot of quotines to tackle,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a lot of read option, it's a
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: lot of you know, different types of things.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of design quarterback runs. So I'm not
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: willing to give the Jets fifteen plays of offense.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 7: Oh do you think they got like an artificial bump
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 7: just rallying because they traded off their best players.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to say this again. I said this
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: on our TV show. I thought this one of your spots.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 5: I thought it the opposite.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: I said this on the TV show, right, Yeah, remember
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: what I said? Yeah, the Cleveland Browns allowed fewer than
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five yards of total offense and
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over. Teams that do that are
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five and oh until until Sunday.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Now they're two hundred and twenty five and one. Two
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: special teams punt and kick return for touchdowns. Now, if
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: the Patriots go out and do that, like I'll you
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: guys can attack me on next Tuesday or Thursday night
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: if things got If the Patriots turn the ball over
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: or give up special teams touchdowns and they find a
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: way to lose this game, I'm just telling you, if
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: they just played conventional football and justin Fields and Breese
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Hall try to run the ball and throw the ball
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: for forty seven yards, the Jets have no chance to
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: win this game. I don't think they have a chance
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: to win the game.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you how they could make it competitive.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: No, right, I don't even think they can do that.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: I don't because all the good, the good players that
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: the Jets just got rid of on defense, I don't see.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: You don't believe in the uing theory? God, no, did
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: you watch the game? Just asking the Jets don't believe
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: in the uing theory either. They were awful. I'm kind
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: of without they were awful in this game.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: I just they can't.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: The offense is terrible.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: If they had a semblance of an offense, I could
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: make the argument Thursday night Division game those are generally
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: closer than you think. I think this is going to
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: be the seventh time Division teams are going to play
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: on Thursday Night in the previous six, you know, and
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: they're different divisions around the league. Obviously, I think four
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: of them will decided about like a field goal or less,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: you know, or a touchdown or less. There are a
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: lot of games have been good, they tend they tend
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: to be close because there's a familiarity. But this one,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: to me, no Quinn Williams, no Sauce Gardner, no Garrett Wilson.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: All the Jets have is not playing in this game.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Do you think and the Jets have very little to
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: begin with?
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think a lot of these games are also
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: close because of the lack of preparation, that and the fatigue.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, but like maybe a slight thing
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: for the Jets there. They were at home this week
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots were on the road. So but I
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: think the home team has an enormous advantage. You know, tomorrow,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: when we're talking about turning the page to the Jets,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: the Jets would be traveling here, you know. And I
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: know it's only a half out, forty five minute flight
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is, but it's not a forty five
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: minute process. I can tell you that. I just think
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: it's I think it's really hard. We'll play. They can
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: get here late in the year. That's for the right
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: team to win on Thursday, especially when you stink. I mean,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: let's face it, they're two and Steve.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: And I did.
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  Speaker 6: One thing that just stan out to me is the Jets,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 6: of other than the Cowboys and the Bills, they got
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 6: blown out in those two games. Every other one it's
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 6: been like a one score game. I mean, they haven't
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 6: gotten killed. Other than those two games, they've been good.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's a four point.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: Their defense before they traded these two guys was terrible
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: and it's still terrible. So I think that that's the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: one thing that you know, I do understand that what
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: Alex was kind of getting at of like there's always
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: a little bit of that. It's kind of like when
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: we talk about the interim coach bump, where like I called.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: The interim coach bump adjacent. Yeah, that's right, it's like it's.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: Very similar where like okay, like you know, the role
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: players get to play a little bit more and maybe
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: the vibes are a little bit better because maybe the
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: guy they traded was a turn in the punch bowl
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: and now like, okay, things are just a little bit
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: better around the facility because those guys are gone. And
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's the case with the Jets,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: but that does happen.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to defend you a little bit here because
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: the defense. Evan's right, the numbers are probably not great.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: They got off to a horrific start defensively, but the
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: last month they gave up thirteen, thirteen, and twenty and
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: three out of those four games, now, the fourth one
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: was the Bengals. They got up thirty eight. They lost that.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: They won the game thirty nine to thirty eight. But
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: the Bengals are doing that to everybody, but thirteen to
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: the Broncos, thirteen to the Panthers, twenty to the Browns.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: So the defense has played better after a terribly in
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty, twenty nine, twenty seven, thirty seven,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: the first five weeks in the season, they have some players.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: You know, Will McDonald had four sacks of the day
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: again in practice and her. If you let Will McDonald,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: you know, get four sacks and maybe cause a strip
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: sack on two of them, that gives the the Jets points,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: you can lose. Like obviously it's an NFL game, you
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: can lose it. I'm just that's what it's gonna take.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: The four ways, that's what it's gonna take to lose.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: He's a fire.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: I hope that he plays because we're already missing out
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: on Gon's over as Garrett Wilson, which is bummers. And
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: now I'm hoping that Will McDonald plays because i'd like
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: to see Will Campbell against McDonald. I think that's the
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: type of guy that Will Campbell's theoretically could have problems
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: with speed rusher with some length and some juice off
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: the edge. So I'd like to see how Will Campbell
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: does it. Because McDonald's a really good player. He's having
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 4: a really good year here and it's sort of coming
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: into his on he had a four sacks seven pressures
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: lines up kind of everywhere that put them up over
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: the guards and have him rushed there too. So he's
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: he's a fun player to watch.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 15: Uh.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: We were talking about interim coaches, you know, with Tennessee
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: firing their coach just before they played the Patriots. I
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: heard that Dabile get fired because we're on their schedule
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: coming up.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: I heard the same thing. So we're a coach killer
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: that game is getting. That's interesting.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: We're a coach killer.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: I don't status with Dart's going to be, but now
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 6: he's out, Like.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: I wonder what the flex you can flex Monday night now?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 10: So I do?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I mean Drake May and Monday Night. Maybe they can't
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: imagine they'd want to get Boston, New York off of
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Monday Night.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: It's like that Giants team is a mess, but they
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: play entertaining games.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: They do, but Scataboo's not playing.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: But they lose a ten point lead in the last
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: five minutes of every game. I know, Like, that's why
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: you lost. It's not because they're it's not necessarily because
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: they're two and eight. It's how they got to to
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: They've They've done that like four times.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: I know, let's get back to the phones, Eric's and Albuquerque.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 12: Eric, Tay, Guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 12: my call. Hey, I'm I'm usually at work, so I
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 12: can never call when you're live. But my question is
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 12: about the defense. We haven't heard a whole lot of
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 12: talk about it this year in relation to how great
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 12: the offense is doing. And I know we've got an
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 12: interim decord Zach Core.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, Core, that Core?
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it right, Yeah, that Core.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 12: So I don't hear many people talking about him, and
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 12: I know I'm wondering, is it is it the defense
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 12: being like coached by committee? Is Rabel kind of doing
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 12: it or is Zach doing it? Should we be talking
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 12: about Zach Core a little bit?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach I.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 4: Wrote about him earlier this year, if you want to
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: check that out, and just kind of him taking over
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: the play calling and all that kind of stuff. He's
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: he's the de facto defensive coordinator. He's running the meetings,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: he's calling the plays. You know, I'm sure like everything
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: else football team, you know, Vrabel has a huge say
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: in the game plan and sort of the high level,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: you know, big picture stuff in terms of how they
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: go into games.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: And things like that.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: But it's Core's play sheet, and I think he's done
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: a pretty good job. I mean, there are things that
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: I don't love about how they do, uh you know,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: play early down defense in terms of the coverage, but
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: it works like they're keeping the scoring down, they're they're
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: keeping the big plays down. Uh, they're good on third down,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: like I said earlier.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the best thing I could say
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: is that they've been absolutely outstanding when they have to be,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: and that's every every week, every game when the game's
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: on the line, they've dominated.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they come out and sorry, go ahead, Eric, what
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: did you say?
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 12: Oh just say Yeah, that blitz end the game on
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 12: Sunday was just perfectly right, beauty.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Eric.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 6: I think it stands out to me is the personality
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 6: that vrabel is injected in this team, and like, you know,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: watching Corey Dirten play with this reckless abandon until through
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 6: the whistle. That's what they keep saying, play longer than
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 6: the guy with the ball, and you just see that
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 6: playing style and you look at like the broken tackles,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 6: which I think have gotten better, but even when they're high,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 6: like they don't give up a lot of yards because
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: everyone is running to the ball, so if one guy
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 6: into the tackle, someone else is going to be right there.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: You see that over and over again. The Baker flip
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: at the end of the game.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right on the spot, like realizing that that was crazy.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 6: That was one you got to see in the end
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: zone footage to see. Yeah, but Baker Mayfield like falling backwards,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: you know it was.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: That had ever been like let's say Hawkins wasn't there
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: and why he got the first down, I think that
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: would have been World War three for Patriots fans because
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that's not a sack not in
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: the ground.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean even watching it though, it was I
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 6: mean I was thinking, like when would I blow the
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 6: whistle right here?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: And there really wasn't a moment like you know, it
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: was moving, I would have blown the whistle.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was moving though, like you could
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: see it like on the film that he's still got
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: momentum like he has four progress hadn't been stopped yet.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: But I uh, yeah, I think what you know, what
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: I see from Core I give him credit is like
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: he kind of it knows when to send the house,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: he knows when to pressure. He knows when to get
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: intomand coverage, and they're kind of trusting their philosophy of
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: we're gonna play some zone. We're probably gonna give up
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: some plays, but we're not gonna give up a ton
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: of points. And then when we really need to it's
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, it's third or fourth down, we're gonna
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: go man to man, we're gonna get Gonzo on their
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: best receiver, and we're gonna get off the field. And
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: it's so far it's worked, like we'll see. You know,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned about the early down pass defense
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: and like they face a really good quarterback in the
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: playoffs that that can tear that apart. And it's a
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: little bit concerning that you're never gonna get the third down.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: But they've been really good.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: Coming down the home stretch. Eldred's in North Carolina.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: Eldred?
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, yes, sir.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 15: You're killing me, but I'm going to agree with you
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 15: a little bit.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: Question.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 15: Question is a good, solid game yet and everybody got
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 15: them going to the super Bowl already, and I'm like,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 15: just can't put it down just a little bit more.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 15: But do you ever think we get we get one
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 15: good one, good solid game, and when you think it
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 15: might be I noticed is like a ball. But I'm
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 15: just acting.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Thursday night, and y'all have a good one.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Thanks, Eldred.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: I want to know what.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know what you're killing him about?
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he said he it's killing him that he kind
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 7: of agrees with you.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, why about what? Still don't know what he
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't like?
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: So when are they gonna have a complete game Thursday night?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: Just right?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: What is a couple of years? I think they've played
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of really sound games. I guess this is
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: another one that I get made fun of on the
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: post game show.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: For being it's not perfect, Paul.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's been really really good, and I don't
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: like you go to Tampa. Tampa's coming off the buy
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: and you didn't soundly dominate him for sixty minutes, So
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: I guess you didn't play your best football. I think
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: they played about as well as they can play. Now,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: did they make mistakes? Of course they did. Evan you know,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: chartered some specifics, but I just don't know what we're expecting.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: Dan's and Daytona. What's up?
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 7: Dan? Hey?
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: How's it going?
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Can you guys hear me.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 15: How's it going to just calling back again?
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: Brad un Below disappointed you weren't.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: There on Sunday, but uh, I just had to throw
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: that in there. And oh you mean at the party,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: uh Saturday night? Well, well I had reservations. That burns.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: He's talking about the postgame show postgame show.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 15: Yeah, the post game show. You know I usually miss you.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 12: You know your your banter with with Paul and yeah,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 12: but I'll be there.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: I'll be there this Thursday, and I'll have the advantage
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: because Paul doesn't like late nights.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: You can have the five energy.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get your guys' take on two different things.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 15: I know you guys seen a brand a bullfire.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 12: Do you think that the Patriots are going to add
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 12: him possibly.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: This year but no, absolutely not.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 14: Or you think he's going to try and take that
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 14: job doun of maybe Miami or go back to Buffalo.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's gonna do, but I don't
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna be working until next year.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: Probably you'll probably take the rest of the year off.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: It's always tough to what next dand team like the
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: Patriots or or Buffalo, like let's have somebody like over
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator shoulder like and like, you know, I
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: don't think it would really impact McDaniels as much, but
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: like Joe Brady's a young, hit like coordinator that like,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 4: now this guy that supposedly fixed Josh Allen and like
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: made him into an MVP is just it lurking in
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 4: the building. Sean mcdermoy yesterday said there was no chance
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: they were considering.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 6: That a little when they brought Josh back in eleven.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 6: You know, but I think Leo was already leaving, right,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 6: so you knew had to think.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: That had a big part of that couple even emails
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: to wrap up the show with Jeremiah says he he
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: agrees with Evan. I get exactly what he's talking about.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: With the national media. Just last week with the Falcons game,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: I watched Shannon Sharp talk about it and say that
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: Drake London essentially gave Gonzo the work. I can tell
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: he just looked at the stats and didn't see the
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: actual matchup, and now all his fan base is going
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: to take it as fact that Gonzo got three touchdowns
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: put on his head by London and then Spi and
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: Fresno says has Evan never underestimated a player in the
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: draft and then later came around to recognize that the
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: player is really good. His claim of Drake in response
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: to the national accolades is silly Hubris. We should have
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: Evan wear a Drake jersey and unleash mob on him.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: That's not what I'm saying is that's another pet peeve
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: of mine, Like, don't don't twist my words. What I
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: said was is I would like them to like have
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 4: some mia kolpa. When I'm wrong about a player in
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 4: the draft, which happens all the time, I will say, yeah,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: I was dead wrong about that guy.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: These people now, they're just acting like they were on
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: the bandwick don't acknowledge it. Yeah, And I'm not for that.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: Well, is there a chance today the time that they
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: are trying.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: To hear that a million times? Like that's the job.
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  Speaker 2: Like I admit that I was wrong, but I still
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  Speaker 2: want to thank him, and I believe we owe him thanks.
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  Speaker 1: I have no rebuttal of that. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be it for this edition
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  Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow Wednesday. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to be like a Thursday because we're going to do
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  Speaker 2: our picks. We won't be here on Thursday, but we
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  Speaker 2: will have the pregame show on Thursday. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: short week, big turnaround, exciting. We got the Jets rivalries.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I might have something to wear tomorrow storm Blue,
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  Speaker 2: all right, tomorrow twenty two to ten.
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