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TRUMP on PIERS MORGAN LIVE - 2011 · Gil I Am

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought I'm a Republican. I'm a very good Republican.
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Speaker 1: But I thought Bush was a terrible president. I thought
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Speaker 1: he was a terrible leader. The country had no spirit,
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Speaker 1: and ultimately he did so badly at the end that
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Speaker 1: we have Obama. That's what we have. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: was a gift from President Bush. I thought Clinton actually
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Speaker 1: had the president. No, I've never been a fan because, look,
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Speaker 1: i am the most militant person there is. I'm a
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Speaker 1: big war guy in terms of I want total defense.
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Speaker 1: I want perhaps an increase in defense spending. Okay, but
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Speaker 1: you don't attack the wrong country. Iraq did not knock
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Speaker 1: down the World Trade Center, as it turned out, he
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Speaker 1: did attack the Royal country. And frankly, they used to
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Speaker 1: kill terrorists in Iraq. You could not be a terrorism
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Speaker 1: and lasted day in Iraq. Now it's the Harvard it's
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Speaker 1: the breeding ground for terrorism. I mean, everybody that wants
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Speaker 1: to be a terrorist, they go to Iraq, they go
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Speaker 1: to Afghanistan, they go to the places where we are.
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Speaker 1: The fact is, Bush I thought was not good. Clinton
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Speaker 1: was a good president, but it was so mored with
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Speaker 1: this whole Monica thing. I mean, he's a friend of mine.
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Speaker 1: He's a lovely guy. He's a great guy. I really
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Speaker 1: like him, but I thought they treated him very, very harshly.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And yeah, he's popular now, more popular he's ever been.
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Speaker 1: He's more popular. That's because he's a quality guy. He
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Speaker 1: really is. He's a quality guy, and he's a Democrat.
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Speaker 1: But he's ay.
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Speaker 2: He's also a member of my golf club. What is
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Speaker 2: your view of President Obama right now?
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Speaker 1: I think he's a nice man. I think he's in
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Speaker 1: over his head. It's amazing the way he got the job.
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Speaker 1: I respect him for getting the job, but it's amazing
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Speaker 1: the way he got the job. He signed up people
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Speaker 1: in street corners in Chicago. All of a sudden, he's
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Speaker 1: the president of the United States.
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Speaker 2: He got head of a shallacking, as he put it,
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Speaker 2: in the midterms. But his ratings right now mid fifties,
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Speaker 2: are significantly higher than Ronald Reagan and presidents at the
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Speaker 2: same time of their administration. So he's doing pretty well
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 1: The fact is he is doing well, and the Republicans
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Speaker 1: have led him back into the game because during the
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Speaker 1: lame duck Seitch and I don't know what happened with
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Speaker 1: the Republicans. I don't know who was leading them, but
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Speaker 1: they totally gave him credibility. He was Jimmy Carter and
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Speaker 1: now he's the phoenix.
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Speaker 2: Who he's leading the Republicans and who should be I.
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Speaker 1: Don't think there is a leader right now of the candidate.
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Speaker 1: It's Romney, I guess would be somebody that people are
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Speaker 1: thinking about, but it's not resonating. Sarah Palin is somebody
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Speaker 1: that I happened to like. I just don't think she
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Speaker 1: can win the election, and a lot of people agree
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Speaker 1: she can win the primary perhaps, but she can't win
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Speaker 1: the election. I can tell you Obama is dying to
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Speaker 1: run against Sarah Pellin, and you can't do that again
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Speaker 1: as a Republican party. You can't put somebody like in
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Speaker 1: Delaware Christine O'Donnell, where she goes in and she beats
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Speaker 1: somebody that would have won by fifteen points, she beats
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Speaker 1: him in the primary, and then she gets killed in
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Speaker 1: the election.
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Speaker 2: Is this precisely why you're also tempted to run?
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Speaker 1: Well, I am tempted to run, but I think the
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Speaker 1: primary reason I'm tempted I guess yes, I think I
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Speaker 1: could win, Otherwise I wouldn't do it. I'm not doing
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Speaker 1: it to come in fourth place and really do a
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Speaker 1: great job as a businessman. You know, in theory, I
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to win because they've always said somebody
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Speaker 1: with great accomplishment, somebody who's done many many deals. I've
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Speaker 1: done hundreds and hundreds of deals, and I've beaten a
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Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, I'm not saying it, Braggan.
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Speaker 1: I beat a lot of people. And those guys are
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Speaker 1: not nice guys and have lots of enemies and lots
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Speaker 1: of different things. And I've always heard where people like
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Speaker 1: me cannot win because there's too many enemies. But whether
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Speaker 1: it's me or somebody else, you need a person like
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Speaker 1: me to run this country for a while because we
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Speaker 1: have to get this country back so that we're respected again.
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Speaker 1: We have to get this country back so that this
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Speaker 1: country is making the big profits. Not China, not India.
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Speaker 1: I mean American Express. You call up your American Express card.
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Speaker 1: The people are based in India that answer the phone.
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Speaker 1: What's going on? Our people can't do. Our people can't
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Speaker 1: answer a phone. So we have all of this outsourcing
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Speaker 1: to countries all over the world. In the meantime, we
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Speaker 1: have we have really an eighteen percent unemployment, not nine percent,
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Speaker 1: we have an eighteen percent.
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Speaker 2: We shall say, but aren't you being, unusually for you
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Speaker 2: quite defensive about this? I mean, isn't there a way
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Speaker 2: of looking at this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: But I know you're being aggressive. It's kind of passive
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Speaker 2: aggression because actually, isn't the way to deal with this
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Speaker 2: the way that you would if it was your company?
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Speaker 2: You go on the attack? Well, I would do that.
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't. You wouldn't sit there going, well, this is
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Speaker 2: all unfair. You go, you know something, right, shirt sleeves up,
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Speaker 2: let's go get it.
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Speaker 1: No, you're right, But I.
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Speaker 2: Won't we talk about this off the break. I want
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Speaker 2: to know how you shirt sleeves rolled up. We'll get
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Speaker 2: American back on his feet. Okay, right now with my
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Speaker 2: special guest, Donald Trump, Donald, what would you do to
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Speaker 2: fix America? Put aside the China the trade issue for
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Speaker 2: one moment. There's something inherently wrong with the system in
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Speaker 2: this country which led to the financial crisis. Isn't there
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Speaker 2: ten percent of Americans run employed? Probably more? As you say,
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Speaker 2: what's the answer here? You're a great employer. Tell me
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Speaker 2: how we're going to solve this.
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Speaker 1: Well, for one thing, we're protecting the world. Why are
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Speaker 1: we protecting South career without being paid? Okay, they're a competitor.
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Speaker 1: They make a tremendous amount of money.
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Speaker 2: Off of us.
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Speaker 1: They sell their televisions, everything else. Why are we protecting
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Speaker 1: South Korea? We just signed a horrible trade agreement with
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Speaker 1: the South Korea. They weren't going to sign it until
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Speaker 1: North Korea lobbed a couple of bombs over there. Then
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Speaker 1: they called, They said, oh, we'd like to sign the trade.
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Speaker 1: You're a great partner. You're a great partner, and we
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Speaker 1: stupidly send the SS George Washington, the most incredible aircraft
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Speaker 1: carrier I've ever seen, in seventeen destroyers, right into North Korea.
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Speaker 1: Why aren't they paying us? I mean, why are we
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Speaker 1: protecting them? They make hundreds of millions of dollars of
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Speaker 1: profits against the United States. You know, one of the
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Speaker 1: great ones, fifty two million. I don't know how many
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Speaker 1: of the folks in the audience see this, but a
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Speaker 1: few months ago, fifty two million in cash in a
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Speaker 1: briefcase was sent to Afghanistan. You know that it ended
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Speaker 1: up in Dubai. Fifty two million. Now, you know the
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Speaker 1: fifty two million was actually one hundred million probably, but
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Speaker 1: you know somebody sold it along the way, whether it's
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Speaker 1: a soldier. I want to know who is the colonel
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Speaker 1: or the general or whoever it is that approved fifty
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Speaker 1: two million in cash. It definitely wasn't fifty two I
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Speaker 1: guarantee you.
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Speaker 2: If you were president, would you take all American troops
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Speaker 2: out of Afghanistan and Iratna?
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Speaker 1: Well, we shouldn't have been there, and I get him
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Speaker 1: out real fast. Afghanistan is not the bigger problem. The
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Speaker 1: bigger problem is Pakistan. You have to know, you know,
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Speaker 1: when you fight about it, you have to know who
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Speaker 1: to fight. Pakistan probably has Osama bin Lad. Now think
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Speaker 1: of it. You have a six foot six Arab and
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Speaker 1: we can't find him. Who's on a dialysis machine and
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Speaker 1: we can't find them. You tell me this with all
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Speaker 1: our so called intelligence and everything else, Guys six foot
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Speaker 1: six pretty unusual, right, we can't find Osama bin Laden.
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Speaker 1: There's something wrong. We give hundreds of billions of dollars
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Speaker 1: to Pakistan and they're probably housing him. He may be
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Speaker 1: housed frankly in Saudi Arabia, because you think Saudi Arabia's
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Speaker 1: our friend. I mean, nobody hurts us like Saudi with
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Speaker 1: the fuel price.
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Speaker 2: What's interesting on Saudi Rose I mentioned to you tonight.
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Speaker 2: The other breaking news is that the king of Saudi
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Speaker 2: Arabia has been very affirmed with President Obama basically telling
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Speaker 2: him to leave off Mabarak and you know, keep our
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Speaker 2: big noses out of it, allegedly. So what do you
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Speaker 2: think of that situation as developing where you're beginning to
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Speaker 2: see the old order in the Middle East standing up
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Speaker 2: to and saying, this is our business, not yours.
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Speaker 1: They're standing up for the first time because they don't
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Speaker 1: respect us anymore. They didn't used to stand up. They're
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Speaker 1: standing up now because they didn't respect They're standing up
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Speaker 1: now because they can do anything they want. You have
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Speaker 1: to go over there and see some of the airports
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Speaker 1: that they're building. They make Knity Airport look like it's
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Speaker 1: third world country. They make Laguardi. I land at Laguardi
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Speaker 1: and then I go into Abu Dhabi and I go
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Speaker 1: into Katar. I go into these airport. It's like the
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Speaker 1: most incredible things you've ever seen. We're like a third
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Speaker 1: world country and they wouldn't be there. Look at Kuwait.
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Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein attacks Kuwait. We then go in get them out.
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Speaker 1: We lose lives. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars.
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Speaker 1: We put out redded are we put out all the
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Speaker 1: oil welfires that he said, all the oils we hand
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Speaker 1: them back the country. Now they don't invest in the
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Speaker 1: United States because you know why, they say, the return
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Speaker 1: on investment is not good enough, We're not going to
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Speaker 1: invest it.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they have a point. And also, here's the other
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Speaker 2: point they do is like General Motors, it comes like
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Speaker 2: Coca Cola are all investing heavily in places like China,
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Speaker 2: and they're doing very well of it. Isn't the answer
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Speaker 2: to go where the business enemy is and take them
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Speaker 2: on their own game and make money out of them
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Speaker 2: what you would do instinctive, I think it's great.
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Speaker 1: But if you look at what happened to General Electric,
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Speaker 1: what happened to them with technology where they had to
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Speaker 1: give up all their technology to China, where they have
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Speaker 1: to build plants in China, where they have to do
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Speaker 1: all of these things. Hey, I like the Chinese. I'm
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Speaker 1: fine with the Chinese, and if I were them, I'd
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Speaker 1: be doing the same thing if I could get away
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Speaker 1: with it. We can't let them continue to get away.
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Speaker 2: What are the other problems here though, I mean you
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Speaker 2: saw disintegration of the financial system. You can't just blame
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Speaker 2: foreign competition. What was wrong with the system here that
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Speaker 2: should be now put right properly.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, you're always going to have problems with financial systems.
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Speaker 1: I went to the Wharton School of Finance, which is
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Speaker 1: the best business school probably in the world. I dealt
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Speaker 1: with people that were super brilliant people. I know how
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Speaker 1: smart they are regulations. I mean, these people don't know
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Speaker 1: what a regulation is and they find ways around them.
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Speaker 1: You know, you have really smart guys writing regulations, but
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Speaker 1: you have smarter guys figuring out how.
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Speaker 2: To do the same. Bankers, it got us into the
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Speaker 2: mess now be allowed in regulation way to be awarding
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Speaker 2: themselves huge bonuses against I mean.
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Speaker 1: Look, look what happened with Chase today. I mean they
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Speaker 1: got caught for taking advantage of military and soldiers that
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Speaker 1: are in Afghanistan and Iraq and taking advantage of them.
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Speaker 1: I think it's terrible. What Chase has done, I think
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Speaker 1: is terrible, and I think what the banks is doing
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Speaker 1: right now. They took all the money, the taxpayer money,
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Speaker 1: and if you go in, if anybody in this audience
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Speaker 1: wants a home loan, You're not going to get it. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get.
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Speaker 2: It because they're a barred themselves millions of dollars in bonuses.
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Speaker 2: And one of the things I think is scandal.
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Speaker 1: I think it's terrible and one of the things, and
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, and I really do.
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Speaker 1: I believe it's terrible. They took all of this money
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Speaker 1: to stay solved. They're taking big bonuses. But here's the
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Speaker 1: bigger problem. The big picture problem is they're not loaning
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Speaker 1: the money. There's millions of empty homes because nobody can
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Speaker 1: go out and get There's.
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Speaker 2: A tweet I want you to respond to. It is
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Speaker 2: a great address. By the way, kick a snowflake is like,
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Speaker 2: is the tweeter? As President Trump? Who would be the
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Speaker 2: first person you'd say you're fire tape?
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they want me to say, look, you know,
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Speaker 1: I have had so much What they want to say? Obama?
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 2: Who's the number one bad guy right now? You would
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Speaker 2: fire in America?
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Speaker 1: Well? Can I be honest? I don't want to say.
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Speaker 1: There's so many of them? Are there are so many
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Speaker 1: of them? You look at a department of education. It
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Speaker 1: goes for blocks and blocks and blocks. So education should
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Speaker 1: really be I mean we have to sup some like
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Speaker 1: a little bit of supervision, so you would not education
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Speaker 1: should be a local thing. It should be a state that.
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Speaker 2: Was an amazing education too. Because last word with the Chinese,
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Speaker 2: isn't the reality with them that they are educating their
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Speaker 2: people better now America is doing and that's why they're
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Speaker 2: also jumping ahead. Isn't that true?
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Speaker 1: And you know where they're educating a lot of that
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Speaker 1: people at our schools. It's the most amazing thing. They
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Speaker 1: come over, they learn, they go to Harvard, they go
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Speaker 1: to Wharton, they go to Yale, they go to the
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Speaker 1: best schools, and then we force them to leave.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we force them to leave. I know that. And
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Speaker 2: when we come back, I'm going to ask you, as
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Speaker 2: a man who wins and knows how to pick a winner,
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Speaker 2: this is where I come in. How are we gonna win?
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Speaker 2: Of course, my triumph a moment winning season one of
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Speaker 2: the NBC's Everbody Apprentice, Donald I was quite terrifying and
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Speaker 2: arduous and all that kind of thing. But at the end,
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Speaker 2: I realize why you're such a winner, because you picked
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Speaker 2: the right guy.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know that you're being cute, but the fact
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Speaker 1: is I did pick the right guy, and Trace was fantastic,
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Speaker 1: and many other people in that group were fantastic, and frankly,
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Speaker 1: Trace Adkins is the number one country singer right now.
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Speaker 1: When he went on the show, I was complaining, who
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Speaker 1: the hell ever heard of it? You know that? So
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Speaker 1: Trace is not complaining either.
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Speaker 2: What does it take in general? I read I read
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Speaker 2: your books before I competed in your show to try
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Speaker 2: and get inside your your brain. And I love the
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Speaker 2: one called think Big and Kick ass because it kind
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Speaker 2: of summed up I think the Trump philosophy, isn't it,
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Speaker 2: which is, don't go micro on these things, think big
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Speaker 2: and you can win. It is that your steally philosophy.
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Speaker 1: Well, and not everybody can think big. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: have home builders that build one home. They're not going
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Speaker 1: to build big developments, and they do a great service
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Speaker 1: to the community. You have people that do small jobs
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Speaker 1: and they do a great service. Not everybody can think big.
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Speaker 1: If everybody thought big, it would be a pretty crowded
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Speaker 1: world out there. It wouldn't be very pleasant. But I
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Speaker 1: think that you should, within reason, think as big as
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Speaker 1: you can, and you know, it's very very interesting with
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Speaker 1: that book. That book did very well. My books all
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Speaker 1: go to number one or do really well as best sellers.
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Speaker 1: But I have to tell you that book because of
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Speaker 1: the kick Ass didn't do quite as well because a
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Speaker 1: lot of parents. It was around Christmas time, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of parents couldn't buy it for their child because
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Speaker 1: they didn't like the time. It's truly true. I said,
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Speaker 1: why isn't that book selling like everything else? But they
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Speaker 1: really had a problem, you know, giving a seven year
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Speaker 1: old kid a book with that tuch.
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Speaker 2: Here's a really interesting aspect to your character. You've never
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Speaker 2: had a drop of alcohol in your life, have you?
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Speaker 1: That's right now?
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Speaker 2: I mean I found that amazing when I discovered that fact.
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Speaker 1: For me, it was very easy.
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Speaker 2: I haven't touched a drug.
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Speaker 1: No, I've never had.
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Speaker 2: Drugs, never slow cigarette.
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Speaker 1: I've never had cigarette. And you don't even drink coffee
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Speaker 1: and I don't drink coffee.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I have other problems.
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Speaker 2: I guess going to come to the women in a moment.
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Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily women are your vice, right.
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Speaker 1: No, I just respect women. I find women very beautiful.
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Speaker 1: I think women are great. I have a fantastic wife, Milania.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to the women because I
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Speaker 2: want to focus more on this discipline and where you
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Speaker 2: get it from. You told me once a very interesting
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Speaker 2: story about you had an older brother who was an alcoholic,
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Speaker 2: and he died of alcoholism, and he told you before
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Speaker 2: he died, don't drink and don't smoke.
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Speaker 1: Well, I had an older brother named Fred, who was
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Speaker 1: a great guy, a handsome guy, the most handsome guy
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Speaker 1: that you've ever seen. He had everything going but and
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Speaker 1: he loved flying aeroplane, so he actually was a pilot.
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Speaker 1: He was a professional pilot. And somewhere along the line,
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Speaker 1: I think it was in college, he started drinking and
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Speaker 1: he got worse and worse, and he also smoked a lot.
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Speaker 1: And he would tell me, and he was quite a
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Speaker 1: bit older than me, about ten years older. He'd say,
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Speaker 1: don't ever smoke, don't ever drink, don't ever smoke, don't
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Speaker 1: ever drink. And I say that to my kids now,
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Speaker 1: no drinking, no drugs, no alcohol. I also say, and
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Speaker 1: no tattoos, because I think tattoos are horrible. I see
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Speaker 1: this tattoo phrase that's going on.
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Speaker 2: I lead as you did.
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Speaker 1: I think I was so far my kids have been
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Speaker 1: following my lead. But you know, I just I dragged
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Speaker 1: him crazy. They say, Dad, will you stop? But anyway,
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Speaker 1: so I had this great brother who had everything going,
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Speaker 1: but he became an alcoholic. He smoked a lot, but
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Speaker 1: forget the smoke, and he became an alcoholic and ultimately
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Speaker 1: he died. It was amazing genes that he lasted as
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Speaker 1: long as he did. But he was a very severe alcoholic.
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Speaker 1: He was an amazing guy. And you know, he was
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Speaker 1: in a certain way. My father was a great teacher,
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Speaker 1: but he was one of my great teachers, if not
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Speaker 1: my best. But he got me not to smoke, not
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Speaker 1: to drink. And you know, it's very interesting. I went
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Speaker 1: to college and I had a friend who hated the
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Speaker 1: taste of scotch, just hated it. He said, Donald, I'm
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Speaker 1: working so hard to develop a taste for scotch. I said, listen,
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Speaker 1: you're lucky. Just don't have it. He said, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I want to do it at social He's now today
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Speaker 1: a very bad alcoholic and scotch.
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Speaker 2: Even though he hated the taste to start with, he.
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Speaker 1: Hated the taste. Do you feel to develop a taste?
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Speaker 1: So I say to people don't drink. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: so easy. You say, oh, it must be hard. It's
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Speaker 1: not hard. If we don't drink.
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Speaker 2: People business dinners, I'm not going to quite a feel
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Speaker 2: them as you do. And by midnight they're rolling out
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Speaker 2: drunk and they're seenior business people. What do you think
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Speaker 2: is that?
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, there's a banker, And obviously I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to mention names. Norm I gonna mention the names
15:22
Speaker 1: of the congressman, all of whom I know. Okay, boy,
15:26
Speaker 1: would that be good? I see his eyes lighting, but
15:29
Speaker 1: I won't mention it with me. It goes to the grave.
15:32
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget a very respected banker, highly respected,
15:37
Speaker 1: and he was making a speech at the Older for
15:39
Speaker 1: Astoria and he was very tipsy, very you know, and
15:42
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter he was just totally stone cold drunk. There
15:45
Speaker 1: were probably two thousand people, fifteen hundred people at this dinner,
15:48
Speaker 1: and it was a very big event. And we carried
15:50
Speaker 1: him out on his back, and I never felt the
15:53
Speaker 1: same way about him. I see him today and I
15:55
Speaker 1: just don't feel the same way. We carried him and
15:57
Speaker 1: he was stone cold drunk in a big dinner, and
16:00
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he drank, but we carried him
16:02
Speaker 1: out literally on his back, and he just retired. But
16:08
Speaker 1: he was a very powerful banker, one of the biggest,
16:11
Speaker 1: and I never felt the same way about.
16:13
Speaker 2: Respect for him.
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Speaker 1: I lost respectful, I lost respect for him.
16:16
Speaker 2: When we come back, I'm going to talk to you
16:17
Speaker 2: about your your own great era of expertise, the female form.
16:22
Speaker 1: Oh well, well.
16:30
Speaker 2: Men around the world are jealous of Donald Trump. But
16:32
Speaker 2: it's got nothing to do with your wealth, or your
16:34
Speaker 2: business sense or anything. Is to do with the huge
16:37
Speaker 2: array of dazzlingly beautiful women that you've managed to snare
16:40
Speaker 2: over the years. Donald, How have you done it? What's
16:42
Speaker 2: the secret?
16:43
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's my look some very I don't
16:47
Speaker 1: know what it is exactly. Well, I've just always admired women,
16:51
Speaker 1: and I mean women, not just beautiful women. Women. I'm
16:54
Speaker 1: a great believer in women. I have tremendous respect for women.
16:58
Speaker 1: I was one of the very early people that employed
17:01
Speaker 1: women in the real estate business, especially the construction business.
17:04
Speaker 1: I had a woman build a Grand High hotel which
17:06
Speaker 1: I built at Grand Central Terminal years ago, and that
17:09
Speaker 1: was a long time. I had a woman that was
17:11
Speaker 1: very much involved with at the top level with the
17:14
Speaker 1: construction of Trump Tower on fifty seventh.
17:16
Speaker 2: And what's more important to women or business?
17:19
Speaker 1: Well, business is more important because I'm a happily married man.
17:21
Speaker 2: I mean, like it off for you? Well, here's a
17:23
Speaker 2: deal for you. Like it off for you? A check
17:25
Speaker 2: for ten billion.
17:26
Speaker 1: Dollars ten billion, billion billion.
17:28
Speaker 2: Well, the deal is you can't. You can't have sex
17:30
Speaker 2: for the next ten years, not even with your wife,
17:32
Speaker 2: with my wife. No, definitely, not in my life.
17:36
Speaker 1: That'd could be the best line of the year night
17:38
Speaker 1: we got.
17:38
Speaker 2: Ten ten billion dollars. But that's the deal. You'd have
17:40
Speaker 2: to give up women or in a sexual way for
17:43
Speaker 2: ten years.
17:43
Speaker 1: What would that include my wife?
17:45
Speaker 2: Yes? Would you take the deal?
17:47
Speaker 1: No, I'd absolutely take my wife. Really well, I have
17:50
Speaker 1: to say that I got to go to see so.
17:54
Speaker 2: Actually it is women in the air, isn't it now?
17:57
Speaker 1: Look women are grade. I just I respect women greatly,
18:00
Speaker 1: always have.
18:01
Speaker 2: What kind of husband have you been do you think?
18:04
Speaker 1: Well, I think I've been a very good husband lately,
18:06
Speaker 1: but I will say that over the years, I've probably
18:09
Speaker 1: been a much better father than a husband. I've been very,
18:11
Speaker 1: very busy with my business. My business sort of not
18:14
Speaker 1: that it's right, but it always came first. And I
18:17
Speaker 1: remember John Paul Getty, who was a great man in
18:19
Speaker 1: terms of business, not a great man in terms of life,
18:22
Speaker 1: but in terms of business, was saying that when I
18:24
Speaker 1: was very young and I listened to him. He was
18:26
Speaker 1: a very old man, and I sort of respected him.
18:28
Speaker 1: He said that I really find it very hard for
18:33
Speaker 1: a woman and a wife to compete with my business.
18:36
Speaker 1: And he said that now in my case, I think
18:39
Speaker 1: I'll maybe do a little modification of that because I
18:41
Speaker 1: have a great family life. I have great kids. But
18:43
Speaker 1: I will say this, I've been a great father and
18:46
Speaker 1: I've done very well with my children. A lot of
18:48
Speaker 1: people I'm getting a lot of credit from my children.
18:50
Speaker 1: They've been good kids. They're smart, they went to the
18:52
Speaker 1: best schools. You know Ivonka and you know Don and Erican.
18:55
Speaker 1: But they're great kids and they've worked hard and they're
18:58
Speaker 1: doing a really huge.
18:59
Speaker 2: Respeace you too, I hope. So are you vain?
19:04
Speaker 1: I think I am pretty vaine. I am. I mean,
19:07
Speaker 1: I think the look is very important. I think it
19:10
Speaker 1: the look, well, it's a lot of different looks. You know.
19:12
Speaker 1: Don King used to go around to me and say,
19:14
Speaker 1: you have the look. You have the look. Well, in
19:16
Speaker 1: his own way, he has the look. You know, he
19:18
Speaker 1: was if I want the look, what is it? Oh
19:21
Speaker 1: you've got a long way to go. Now you've got
19:24
Speaker 1: the look. I mean, you've got the look. Look, who
19:27
Speaker 1: knows what it is. I'm not just talking about a
19:29
Speaker 1: carry grant. Look, we don't have carry grant today. He
19:32
Speaker 1: was so great, right, we don't have that. But George,
19:34
Speaker 1: there's something George Clooney, great looking guy. I mean, it's
19:38
Speaker 1: not just about that. Like, for instance, I mentioned don King.
19:41
Speaker 1: They tried to imitate him or tried to do something
19:44
Speaker 1: with him in a movie with a replacement. It didn't work.
19:47
Speaker 2: It would be Geral remissing me not to mention one
19:51
Speaker 2: of your great attributes. I think, which is your hair?
19:53
Speaker 1: Right? And it is my hair?
19:54
Speaker 2: You know I tested it.
19:57
Speaker 1: You've actually tad he actually walked up and foll which
20:01
Speaker 1: I'll do right now.
20:01
Speaker 2: So it's all real. It's my But he's probably the
20:04
Speaker 2: most famous hair in America, isn't it. Well?
20:06
Speaker 1: I guess it is. And you know I can tell you.
20:08
Speaker 1: NBC certainly wouldn't want me. Somebody said, why don't you
20:11
Speaker 1: just give yourself a crew cut or shave it or
20:12
Speaker 1: something make it. And I've been calling it like this.
20:15
Speaker 1: You know, it's very interesting. I saw some of your pictures,
20:18
Speaker 1: not that one, but I saw some of your pictures
20:20
Speaker 1: from an earlier day.
20:21
Speaker 2: And it was very similar.
20:22
Speaker 1: So it is my hair. And I'll have friends. I
20:25
Speaker 1: had a friend come up to my office recently. I
20:27
Speaker 1: hadn't seen him since high school. I said, waiting to
20:29
Speaker 1: see this guy. This is the greatest looking guy. He
20:32
Speaker 1: did better with the girls than anybody. He was fantastic.
20:34
Speaker 1: He walks up to my office. He weighed one hundred
20:36
Speaker 1: pounds too much, he was bald as a blood. He
20:38
Speaker 1: had you have no idea, big glasses and a cigar,
20:42
Speaker 1: and I said, what the hell happened?
20:45
Speaker 2: So it is my hair. I'm very Happyfore we go
20:47
Speaker 2: to the break. A quick tweet to hear what do
20:49
Speaker 2: you say to critics who say beauty pageants are at
20:52
Speaker 2: best archaic and at worst sexist and demeaning of women
20:55
Speaker 2: from T Deli ganis, Well.
20:58
Speaker 1: They're not archaic because I bought the Miss Universe pageant
21:01
Speaker 1: and the Miss USA pageant and they're doing terrifically in
21:03
Speaker 1: the ratings. I don't think so. I think just the opposite.
21:07
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a certain group of women. Maybe it
21:09
Speaker 1: doesn't play as well in New York, but I can
21:11
Speaker 1: tell you go to Alabama, you go to Texas, you
21:13
Speaker 1: go to places, it's the hottest thing there is. You
21:15
Speaker 1: go throughout the world, Asia, South America, forget it. In
21:19
Speaker 1: Venezuela and Colombia, they close down the country to have
21:21
Speaker 1: the Miss Columbia or to have the Miss Universe pageant.
21:24
Speaker 1: The Miss Universe pageant is one of the largest grossing
21:27
Speaker 1: pageants in the world, not pageants, television shows anywhere in
21:31
Speaker 1: the world. It gets tremendous ratings worldwide, and it's really
21:34
Speaker 1: good and really good for the girls. And you know,
21:36
Speaker 1: these are tremendous people. A lot of these young women
21:40
Speaker 1: are tremendous people.
21:41
Speaker 2: We're talking of tremendous people. When they come back off
21:43
Speaker 2: the final break and talk about Vanka and the rest
21:46
Speaker 2: of your family and also about your impending new career
21:49
Speaker 2: as a grandfather. Ooh.
21:57
Speaker 4: There was no slacking off in the Trump family.
21:58
Speaker 2: We worked, we got great grades.
22:01
Speaker 4: We kind of got brought up in a business mindset.
22:04
Speaker 4: It wasn't a conventional father son relationship that said we
22:07
Speaker 4: did spend a lot of time together, and you know,
22:09
Speaker 4: I'd come in and sit in his boardroom. While he's there,
22:11
Speaker 4: I'd be playing on the floor. We worked every summer,
22:13
Speaker 4: and we understood the value of a dollar.
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Speaker 3: My father and rightly, really exalts my grandfather.
22:20
Speaker 4: My grandfather was very involved and kind of looking over
22:22
Speaker 4: his shoulder as he was getting his start here in
22:24
Speaker 4: New York. And I think there was a real great
22:26
Speaker 4: mutual respect, both from a father son relationship but also
22:29
Speaker 4: as peers and business people.
22:31
Speaker 3: The lessons that he taught him, the elements of hard work,
22:35
Speaker 3: the characteristics of what it means to be a great builder.
22:41
Speaker 2: Well, fat was Donald Junior and Eric Trump, but Donald's
22:49
Speaker 2: children and indeed the next generation. You're about to become
22:52
Speaker 2: a grandfather of the third time, so it's not almost
22:55
Speaker 2: a career.
22:55
Speaker 1: If you don't well, that's a tough word to handle.
22:57
Speaker 1: Their white grandfather. I don't feel like your grandfather. But
23:00
Speaker 1: that's okay. I spoke to a great friend of mine today,
23:01
Speaker 1: Steve Whin, and he's a grandfather. I said, what do
23:04
Speaker 1: you do? He said, I tell them to call me Steve,
23:07
Speaker 1: and he's just a terrific guy. I said, yeah, I
23:10
Speaker 1: think I'm going to do that. Let him call me down.
23:11
Speaker 1: But it's a tough word.
23:13
Speaker 2: We had a great tweet from good Calma Flow Moments.
23:16
Speaker 2: So would your children be as successful if they hadn't
23:19
Speaker 2: had the best in life provided to them from an
23:21
Speaker 2: early age? Do you think? Well?
23:23
Speaker 1: I think you never really know. I think they're very
23:25
Speaker 1: smart kids, and you know, they get into the best schools,
23:27
Speaker 1: and they get very high grades and very high aptitudes
23:30
Speaker 1: on the tests and everything else. But you never know that.
23:32
Speaker 1: I mean, really, if you set them, if they didn't
23:35
Speaker 1: have a father that had a lot of money, that
23:37
Speaker 1: can sort of send them on the way. You really
23:39
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be successful who's not. All
23:41
Speaker 1: I can say is they're in a certain circumstance, and
23:44
Speaker 1: within that circumstance they have been amazing so far. Maybe
23:47
Speaker 1: in ten years you'll be interviewing me.
23:49
Speaker 2: I say, well, how tough of that are you? Do
23:52
Speaker 2: you think?
23:52
Speaker 1: Pretty tough? I think that I want them to appreciate
23:55
Speaker 1: the value of the dollar. I want them to appreciate life.
23:58
Speaker 1: They have great respect for people, all people, not just
24:01
Speaker 1: successful people, and I want them to respect people. And
24:05
Speaker 1: I've always been there. You know, it's a very fragile life. Peerouse,
24:09
Speaker 1: you're doing something, I'm doing something. It's all very fragile.
24:12
Speaker 1: I want them to respect all people.
24:13
Speaker 2: If one of it'd have to be a bunker in
24:16
Speaker 2: your case, had gone off the rails, like Lindsay Lohan
24:18
Speaker 2: has gone off the rails, how would you deal with that?
24:21
Speaker 1: Well, it's a very tough thing. I know Lindsay's mother
24:24
Speaker 1: and father, and you know they get terrible press. But
24:26
Speaker 1: I don't think they're bad people. I think they're devastated
24:29
Speaker 1: over what's going on with Lindsay. And as you know,
24:31
Speaker 1: Lindsay wanted to be on The Celebrity Apprentice and we
24:33
Speaker 1: couldn't take her because of her difficulties. I mean, I
24:36
Speaker 1: want to take her, she'd be great, but we just
24:38
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. I just want to see her get
24:40
Speaker 1: straighten out.
24:41
Speaker 2: I know her.
24:41
Speaker 1: She's a really nice kid, but she's got problems between drugs,
24:45
Speaker 1: alcohol and other things. She's got some big problems and
24:48
Speaker 1: she's got to solve them.
24:49
Speaker 2: Rosie O'Donnell, talking of problems, was being quite complimentary about
24:53
Speaker 2: you today. I'm suggesting that maybe the ice is beginning
24:57
Speaker 2: to melt.
24:58
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a big statement.
24:59
Speaker 2: Well, well, wow, are you are you ready to offer
25:02
Speaker 2: a peace offering? You're ready to put it behind you?
25:04
Speaker 1: Well, I heard she had some very nice things to say.
25:07
Speaker 1: I was shocked.
25:07
Speaker 2: Now's the time.
25:08
Speaker 1: No, No, I was shocked.
25:09
Speaker 2: Make it up, say something nice.
25:12
Speaker 1: I have to read what she had to say.
25:13
Speaker 2: Okay, are you never going to retire?
25:17
Speaker 1: No, it's funny. Real estate people never retire. They just don't.
25:22
Speaker 1: Every one in my business. You know, I used to
25:24
Speaker 1: be the youngest in the business. I was pretty good
25:26
Speaker 1: right from the beginning. I really did a good job
25:27
Speaker 1: the convention side of the Grand High Hotel. Lots of jobs,
25:30
Speaker 1: big jobs that are very early at a very young age.
25:33
Speaker 1: And I'd watch these guys and they were in their seventies, eighties, nineties,
25:37
Speaker 1: Harry Helmsley, they were all much older people, and they
25:41
Speaker 1: never retire. Real Estate people love what they do, you know,
25:44
Speaker 1: and I think, you know what it is. We build
25:45
Speaker 1: beautiful buildings and that makes up for the fact that
25:48
Speaker 1: the face is starting to fall. That's really it's very good.
25:57
Speaker 1: Thank you.