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Olivia Smart / Tim Dieck: Rocker Skating Interview · The Rocker Skating Podcast

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Well, welcome to the Rocker Skating podcast.
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We have a Spanish duo today on our interview, Tim Deke, Olivia
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Smart. Hi, how are you?
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Hola? Hola What what like Olympics?
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You're all done with the Olympics and you're you're
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getting ready for worlds. How was the Olympics?
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That's hard to describe in in a short sentence, but it was an
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absolute amazing, amazing time. And I will never forget that
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time. It was absolutely different than
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four years ago. And sharing those moments
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together with my partner Olivia was amazing.
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Like that's literally all I can say.
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Like there was not one moment which I was like, you know,
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there was 24/7 stuff going on and we enjoyed it a lot.
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I think online our on our social media platform you could tell
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that as far as we enjoyed it a lot.
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I mean, it's so crazy, right? You, you both were in Beijing
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four years ago. Obviously nobody was there
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except for the athletes and like me and 100 journalists or
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whatever it was, how many ever journalists there were.
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It was, it was kind of crazy how different those 2 Olympic
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experiences were. Olivia, what about you?
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Like what? How was there are obviously
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other things that happen. Congratulations on your
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engagement. Thank you.
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But how was your second Olympic experience?
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I used the word kind of like Tim said, but in a brief like one
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word. It's memorable, everything down
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to the opening ceremony of the Olympics and that experience of
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carrying the flag for Spain, then the competition going as
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well as it did for Tim and I and having 2 great Olympic skates.
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And that's what every athlete dreams of, is like performing at
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their best at the Olympic Games. So when you actually do that,
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you're like, Oh yes, so we did that.
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We had that moment on the ice together at the Olympics with
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our families in the stands and the crowd and like, we got to
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like see them like while we were on the ice and wave up to them.
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And then the the celebrations continued for the both of us,
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but for myself especially because I got engaged.
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So my whole Olympic experience, I left and I was like, what did
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I do to deserve all of this? What did I do?
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Because I feel like the luckiest girl on earth right now.
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And everything down to like the Olympic competition, to getting
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engaged, having experience with Tim at the games, my family at
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the games and now John Luke, my fiance.
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It was incredible. And there's like, you know, the
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post Olympic depression that they say is a thing.
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I don't know whether it was because we like lived so
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presently in the moment. And just like I know we didn't
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take anything for granted when we were there.
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Weirdly, I don't know about you, Tim, but myself, I haven't had
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that like crash or that down yet.
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And I'm fingers crossed in touch wood.
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I don't think I will because I feel like I've grown from this
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Olympic experience and it's changed me in so many ways for
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the better that I'm like not looking in the past and missing
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it. I'm like using it moving
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forward. Yeah.
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I'm just super grateful to have experienced an Olympics that's
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like a proper Olympics four years ago.
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It was incredible. I had the best time four years
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ago. Like my Olympics four years ago
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was 2 great skates as well. And it was the moment John, Luke
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and I like kind of started. So I had a great Olympics.
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What a quad, What a? Quad Four years later, who would
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have thought I would have got better?
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So yeah, we're really lucky and it sparked and light in the both
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of us that we didn't even think was there.
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So we're super grateful and our families as well.
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They're like, wow, that was amazing.
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I mean, both of you were there with your partners and your
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partners. And so that experience has to
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have been incredibly good. I mean, Tim, you went a little
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viral, too. Both of you went viral at the
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Olympics. Tim, talk about your matador
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outfit. Well, I had this I'm how to say
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like I had this idea a little of the Olympics, OK, Like I want to
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for some reason, some art came to my mind in the evening.
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OK, I want to have some outfit for just our gear and I want to
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I want to do some something crazy.
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And then originally I had the plan to do it to win it for our
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for our Spanish singer skater for Tommy, because he was
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getting to the minions and for for Spain as well.
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And I was like, that could be an option.
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But then we competed the day after.
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So I was like, no, I'm not going to go and watch in the this
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thing. I'm not going to do that.
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I need to focus like come on. But then of course my girlfriend
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was also there and as getting to the music, the white bull, yeah,
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made a lot of sense. And yeah, I told her before
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about that outfit. I didn't told her that I'm going
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to wear it though. And she also actually didn't see
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me in the stands, which was funny as well, but just.
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Probably a good, maybe a good thing distraction.
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Actually maybe a good thing, but yeah, it was more like for fun,
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but also to to really show my full, full support, which I'm
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therefore I was sharing this experience with her and at the
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time after my competition to really support her with the
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nerves going into her individual event, of course.
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And yeah, spend a lot of time together, which we unfortunately
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usually don't do because we had no long distance relationship,
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right. And so it made it even more
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special to share this Olympic experience also with her.
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It was just, yeah, again, I used the word amazing, very unique
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experience. Like not only the Olympics, but
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sharing it with your partner and with all your loved ones is
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breathtaking. Yeah, for sure.
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Words. Like, you know, the two of you
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had those moments and they were very early in the Olympics,
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right? You, you all skated in within
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the really like the first week of the Olympics.
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And then you got to stick around for another week, week and 1/2
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or so, right? So that you could, you could do
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all of the rest of the stuff. Like it's different than a World
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Championships where you're completely crammed into a few
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days and you don't even get to do much else as So what were the
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other types of things that you all did?
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What were some of the more memorable ones that that that
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you had? Well, as you said, like we got
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to, we got to the Games, we had about a week to settle in, do
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the opening ceremony and then compete.
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It was a quicker turn around than what we did four years ago.
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But at the same time, like you said, it's also more time than
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what it is World Championships. But it was great for us this
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time around. I know it wasn't the same for
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all athletes. A lot of athletes did have to
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leave a couple of days after the event ended.
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It really depended on the federation and the situation of
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the skater. We were even told that we might
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not be able to stay until the end.
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But we did kind of fight that because we were like, you're not
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kicking me out. But also our aim was to be in
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the Olympic Gala with our like fun gala run number.
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So we were luckily able to stay. And honestly, good job because I
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didn't really well personally, but I know Tim as well.
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We didn't do so much of the interactive things in the
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Olympic Village prior to our event because it was so
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overwhelming and there were so many things to do.
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And Tim and I really wanted to conserve our energy and really
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focus on the competition 1st. And then we were luckily able to
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have the time afterwards to enjoy those things in the
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Olympic Village, like going to the Coca-Cola lounge, making a
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Coca-Cola kind of a picture, the pin trading like everything was
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after the competition for us because it was a lot to take in.
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But we were, we are there at the Olympics to compete.
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So that's what we wanted to put as our priority.
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So then we really dove into like the social side of it
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afterwards. And for myself, well, also we're
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in Milan, Italy to explore a bit of Milan as well, to go into the
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city, go downtown. I know a lot of athletes got
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there earlier, so they did that in advance.
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But it was nice to just, you know, spend time out of the
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Olympic Village as well, see our families in other ways in a new,
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in a new place. Go out for a romantic dinner
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with our significant others. We went out for a group dinner,
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the four of us, so just like have a little, well, a mini
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vacation in a way as well because this was our only time
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off until we get back into things for the World
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Championships. So we're grateful that we were
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able to do at the games and also let us kind of like let
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everything sink in like what had just happened and also milk the
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the spotlight of what the Olympic Games is like.
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Figure skating is a niche sport. It's getting more popular, but
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we still know that every four years we've become more and more
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popular. So during this month, every four
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years, you better believe we're milking it as much as we can.
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So that's what we did. Yeah.
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So just enjoying like the Olympic Village.
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There's just so many things to do as an athlete in the village.
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Luckily, yeah, even just the pin trading as you know, like take
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so took over a big part of our Olympic experience and then
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going to watch other events. Both of us went to as many
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hockey games as we could. Tim went to the long track, we
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both went to short track and then to watch the pairs events,
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etcetera. Like we wanted to watch as many
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events as we could also being at the Olympic Games because that
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was also not so much a thing four years ago for us.
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So yeah, just really enjoy the Olympic spirit after the
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competition when you can fully like, take it all in as well.
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So great. Yeah, overwhelming has been the
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word that I've heard the most number of times when people are
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talking about the actual village.
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It's just like sensory overload for sure.
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Yeah, like I remember having to go to the dining hall with my
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headphones in a couple of times just to be like, don't speak to
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anybody. Like I need this like moment of
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peace and quiet. But that never happened.
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Like it's like being on a school trip.
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That's how I literally how I described it as is being on a
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school trip in high school. But it was a three-week long,
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like, school trip. I took.
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I took a book. Yeah, I took a book to read.
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Did I read a page? I read, like, a few pages before
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bed. But other than that, you're in
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your room and you're like, I feel like I'm missing out on
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things outside. And and the things outside where
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people being like can I trade a pin with you?
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Oh my God. Someone.
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Said in the dining hall. The the, the people who give you
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the food, even them were like, oh, Spain, you're pretty rare.
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You have a pin like with those eyes.
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You're like, can I just have a boiled egg, please?
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Yeah. Yeah, a little aggressive.
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A little aggressive, Yeah. OK.
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Speaking of Beijing, I want to maybe take you back four years
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ago, we talked about the weird Olympic experience a little bit
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of Beijing, but you all were with different partners there,
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right, Tim, you're with Katarina and and Olivia, you're with
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Adrian and subsequently got together in the offseason after
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that. So tell me about the the origins
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of it. I'm sure you've talked about it
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a number of times that I want to want to just hear four years
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after, like how, what, what does the origin story look like for
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you? Go ahead.
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Yeah, it really started with like us not skating with our
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former partners anymore, right. Adrian retired and I stopped
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skating with my former partner in Katarina after the Olympics
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or more like after the World Championships towards the end of
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the season. And then we were both, I can
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speak for the both of us in that moment.
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We were both like in the moment we were like, what do we do?
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What's next? Like what, where do we want to
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go? For me, it didn't didn't took
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too long to be honest, like maybe a month and a half, two
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months where I was like, OK, now I definitely want to continue.
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I have so much fire still in me. I want to continue skating,
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looking for a new partner. And Olivia was probably the
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first one I texted because I saw it online that she also stopped
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skating with Adrian. And then we knew each other for
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a long time, of course, from from skating.
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But the first answer was, yeah, no, she was not.
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She was not in the headspace that they went out in the
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headspace at that moment. Maybe you want to say that you
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were in Montreal still, but like what was going on?
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I was in limbo of like, am I going to continue?
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Am I not going to continue? I was, yeah, I was really going
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for a tough time, like personally with my career being
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put on pause and the way it happened and also like my
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relationship at the time. And I was just like, I don't
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want to say yes to this guy and just be be blow up in his face.
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So I did. I very honestly said like, look,
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this is a really bad time. I'm not ready for this right
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now. Like it's not you.
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It's a no. Kinda.
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Yeah. So yeah, I gave him a no, but it
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wasn't like a no. But check back in with me in a
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few months. I remember just being like, no,
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I was doing new things in Montreal at the time.
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I was just trying to kind of like find myself out of skating
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and I really didn't think it would be possible for me to get
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a new partner, no matter who it was, whether it was Tim or
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somebody else. I didn't think it would be
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possible for me to get a new partner and get to the place I
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wanted to or where I was with Adrian.
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In my mind mind I was like, if I got a new partner like this is
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going to be near to impossible. Like how, how is this even a
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thing? Even though we both myself and I
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know Tim as well, we both left the Olympics with like this
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whole new confidence and fire in US.
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And at that time I was like, I don't want something that's too
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challenging right now. I need a minute.
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So yeah, I did say no at first. But then Tim was in Montreal, I
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was doing, I stepped in for some coaching in Montreal and I was
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on the ice and Tim had a tryout in Montreal, a couple of
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tryouts. Long story short, one of them
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that I actually helped set up, there was a girl that I knew of
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and suggested it's the coaches that Tim has a tryout with her
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because I knew he was looking for a partner to reach out to
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me. So he had these tryouts with
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these girls and then the coaches invited me over for dinner one
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night and after 2 bottles of wine they sat me down and said
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we think you need to have a tryout with Tim.
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And I was like what? Long story short, the reason why
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it came such a shock this question is because a week prior
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I signed my dancing and ice contract and they knew I'd sign
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my dancing and ice contract because I asked them if they
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thought it was a good idea if I do it.
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They were, I asked like Marie France because they did battle
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of the blades as well. It's like, is there something
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I'll enjoy? And Marie France was like,
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you'll love it. She's like, even if you choose
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to come back to the the sport or not, she said it will help you
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grow as a person and as a skater and athlete.
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So I took her advice and I signed that contract.
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But then a week later they're telling me I need to have a try
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out with Tim Deke. And I'm like, but they said, I
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know they, they briefly said like, I know you signed your
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contract, but we think you just need to have this try out just
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to see if this is something that you want.
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Because if you do want to continue, this is your only
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option. Like this is the time.
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I'm like, OK, so I had a tryout and we had a tryout.
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I text him and said like, hey, are you free tomorrow by any
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chance for a tryout? So I can't imagine what his
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reaction was. Yeah, like just kidding.
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Yeah, my plan was kind of out because obviously I knew, like I
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said before, OK, Olivia's still there.
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She's not not skating at the moment, but she's still there.
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So there might be still a slightly small chance.
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So, yeah. And then I got that text to the
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beginning of the week or something.
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And then we skated like two or three days and then, yeah,
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decided to skate together and go on a journey together.
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Yeah, but I was like, hey, yeah, let's do this, let's commit to
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this. But can you wait eight months?
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I'm ATV thing I need to do. I'm like, I have an obligation
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in the UK on a reality TV show. We tried to coordinate with him
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coming to the UK every so often, but I, my, I was packed.
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Like my schedule was busier than I expected, but I'm like going
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into this TV show like, hey, guys, I'm doing this, but I'm
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also, I have a new partner waiting for me and I'm trying to
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train to eventually go to the Olympics again.
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They didn't care. So my schedule was packed, jam
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packed, and then as soon as dancing I send it, I was like,
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OK, I need a quick break and then we'll get straight to it.
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And it wasn't even like you were.
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You were like eliminated in the first show.
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It was like you went all the way and won it.
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So you had to do the whole thing.
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Yeah, I was like, if I get eliminated, I'll have so much
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more time. It'll be so different.
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Yeah, no, from like halfway through the show, I was like,
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hey, we might be able to win this.
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So I need to like commit now. Tim, you're on pause.
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It's like my other skating partner really needs the work.
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And Tim, I actually brought Tim in.
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Tim came to the UK and like helped me with Nile a little bit
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and stuff. So it became like a group
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project. That was also then a cool start
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Tower competitive career as well, together sharing new
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experiences that we didn't even expect.
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Right. So you all started in 2023 in
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the fall and and you've had three seasons together.
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Now if you look back, you know at the 1st first half season was
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was challenging, right? You all had not that much time
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to train together. You were still trying to figure
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out how to skate with each other and there were there were some
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starts and stops. And if you look back at that
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time, what was the maybe the most challenging thing that you
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all had to kind of deal with and how did you go about getting
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there for? Me there's like the season star.
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Overall, we were both pretty like confident in what we were
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doing, our material and the way with the way things were
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feeling. It wasn't until we start
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competing that the the outcome of what we were putting out
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there was not what we expected. So for example, the scores and
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the placement. We were pretty content though
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regardless because we were a brand new team.
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We were out there competing for the first time.
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So we knew it was going to be difficult and we knew we would
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have to start from the bottom and then we weren't complaining
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because we got 2 Grand Prixs as a brand new team.
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So that's like a pretty good and big step.
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So we were just kind of like rolling with the punches in what
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was happening in that moment. I don't think it was until the
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World Championships where I think the both of us kind of hit
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a position of a Lord. This isn't going well.
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Do do we want, how do we go about this and do we want to
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figure this out and go about this because this is
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challenging. And it's also not just
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challenging like physically and mentally.
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It was also kind of like breaking that confidence that we
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had just got from the Olympic Games 2022.
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It felt like, you know, we were we just had a really big kind.
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Now we're like at rock bottom. And we had that moment of the
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World Championships where we finished 20th.
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We had a decent. 19th, 19th. 19th OK thank you fact checks.
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I love that we had, we didn't have a terrible skate, we just
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didn't score well. And also our programs, our free
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dance especially was just not being well perceived.
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And we know what material means in ice dance.
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And as a new team, finding anything that worked for us was
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just challenging because we didn't know what our styles
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were. We didn't know what would work
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for the both of us. And we just chose our music
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based on what we felt was right for us.
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So yeah, after World championships, it took us some
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time to re align with, OK, why are we doing this and do we want
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to go through with this regardless of the results?
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And if we do, how are we going to do that?
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So, yeah, we realigned after the World Championships and just, we
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decided, like, look, we partnered up because we had
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something left in us that we weren't ready to give up on.
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We both wanted our careers to end on our terms.
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And also like while we're still young, healthy and have the
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opportunity to be doing this sport at such a high level in
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front of thousands and thousands of people each time, Like why
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wouldn't we take this opportunity?
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We just had to kind of align, like, OK, what's the risk reward
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of it? Like if it makes us feel good,
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great. But if it's like a result based
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thing, then we're probably never going to be pleased sort of
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deal. But then.
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Little did we know, changing that perspective for us actually
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equalled out to results. And that's still and to this
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still now to this day, our mentality because having the
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expectations of results and numbers and anything like that,
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it's like we're always going to be disappointed in some ways.
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We're still learning. You know, we're only human.
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We're also athletes and very competitive athletes.
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So we want to succeed, but we have to catch ourselves in
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reminding us like, OK, why are we doing this?
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And it's really helped us and it's helped our trajectory in
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the past two seasons. And I would do believe in we've
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spoke quite often. Like, we do believe we needed
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that first season together to like, you know, kick us back
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into shape because we came from this high from the Olympic Game
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2022 with all this confidence. And like, like, I can do this,
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like just partnered up with someone else.
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That's another Olympian. Sure, we needed to be kicked
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down a few notches in order to be where we are today, and it's
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only helped us skate with, I'd say, more gratitude than
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anything else. Well, and and you've also now
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become known as the ones with the innovative moves too.
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I mean, like the that really started in that second season
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together. And I think a lot of people will
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remember the the choreographed lifts and you know, it was.
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A competition as well. From the from from the first
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competition as well where it didn't work, but it tell me
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about that right. That's something that really has
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separated you from other teams. And you know how you you all
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know how deep the ice dance fields are.
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And for you to be able to say like, hey, I, I've made a mark
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on the sport with the things that we do like, was that a
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conscious decision? And how do you think about that
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when you're choreographing new material?
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But it was for me, the first moment where I was like, oh,
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what is going to happen from this point on was when Roman put
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us in the beginning pose of our Doom 1 program into like a
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thought of ball or he called it at that point like the ball.
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And I was like, OK, what's going to happen?
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Because there was something so different.
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I never had the position of and the style where it went from
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there. How he unwind this position with
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us together. That's when I thought like, OK,
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this can be something really, really special.
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And then it was when we started working on the elements and the
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choreograph and choreographic elements where whenever we did
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it, I was like, OK, no one else did this stuff before.
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This is going to be so unique and so special.
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So we knew that like when when it came to the choreography and
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like skating the program, but what we also me personally, what
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I also felt was OK, the first run through of the doing 1
25:04
program, I'm like, OK, we need to put in a lot of work here
25:08
because it was very, very difficult to perform those moves
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in a full, full program. I mean anytime.
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But doing this like doing a part with one lift is another thing
25:17
than doing a formula program of those lifts and elements.
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And then and yeah, starting that season was our Doom Doom 1
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program, of course didn't didn't went really well in the first
25:30
competition. But then going back for from it,
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going back to training, Patrice asked us or asked me.
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OK, do you still want to do this choreography lift or do we need
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to change it? And I did it again and there was
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like a slight movement again in the practice and he went into
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the direction that we have to change it.
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But I was like, no, this is the most unique lift figure skating
25:55
has kind of seen so far in a choreographic based element.
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I really want to make this work. So we did it kind of over and
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over. And that's what we really did
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throughout the season. We, we really worked on our
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consistency in practice and on the elements especially.
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And that's what also took us to the point where we are now,
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like, I mean, we call it the fast track.
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Like other couples have a full circle full for Four Seasons of
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preparing. We had like 3, three seasons as
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a new couple together. So we had to go on a fast track,
26:29
but really going in this training consistency and going
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with those special kind of elements really brought us to
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the point where we are now. I think we can really say that
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we brought a new level of figure skating and ice stands to our
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sport, which skating has never seen before.
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So that's that's pretty special for sure.
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I mean, using the choreographic elements as they were intended
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to be, which is creativity, right?
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Like that's, that's the whole, that's the whole thing about
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introducing those elements. Finding unique things is just so
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difficult nowadays in the world of art and dance man.
27:12
Everyone's everyone's algorithm in the summer is probably linked
27:15
up to the same things, the same off ice dancers doing lifts and
27:18
I was trying to replicate them on the ice.
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Like it's even the same with music.
27:23
Like there's always one song that'll show up that might trend
27:27
and then somebody uses it and then you have 5 people using it.
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It's hard to be unique in the world of ice stands, especially
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without being too far out-of-the-box as well.
27:40
Because you have the classic ice stands and then you have the
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really, really, really far out-of-the-box ice stands.
27:46
And like, I like to stand out as a person.
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Tim likes to stand out as a person.
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We both like acting and playing roles, so it just came very
27:55
natural for us to play like the characters in Dune.
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But when, like Tim was saying, Roman was coming up with the
28:02
elements in the choreography, I was like, this is really fucking
28:04
weird. This is weird.
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But from what we'd experienced in our first season together and
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the downfall of worlds, I was like, I'm open to anything at
28:13
this point. I was like, let's just roll of
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it. Let's just have fun with it.
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And because of that, we were able to come up with just a very
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intricate, unique, weird program that fit Dune.
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And a fun fact that not many people know is romance
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icographer of Dune 1 and Dune 2 and he has never seen the
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movies. Never.
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Not once. And he will not watch the
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movies. We asked him the other day,
28:42
would you watch the new one? He's like, no, probably not we.
28:46
Got at this point to be. Honest, yeah.
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He think he thinks it's better that way because he doesn't have
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like a closed vision on what it needs to be and what it looks
28:55
like. So in the choreography,
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especially June 1, some moments of that program Tim and I
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brought to the choreography because we're like, hey, there's
29:03
this thing called sand walking in the movie.
29:06
He's like, what? And we showed him it and he's
29:08
like, OK, you add that in there somewhere.
29:10
So like those moments in the choreography and the sound
29:13
effects of the sand like we added because we had watch the
29:16
movie and dissect it, dissected it.
29:20
And also Patch, I remember his training at one point and he's
29:22
like, there's no sand walking movements in your choreography.
29:24
We're like, we know Roman hasn't seen the movie.
29:27
He thinks there's camels in the movie.
29:29
So, so that's also a funny back story to it that he's created
29:34
these two like his well now viral programs that are going to
29:39
go down in history based on a award-winning movie that he has
29:44
still never seen. I think it's funny though.
29:47
The interesting thing? About.
29:48
Yeah, the, the interesting thing about that is that without
29:52
seeing the actual material and the the the plot of the whole
29:56
thing, you don't make it so liberal.
29:58
You don't end up being like, oh, you're Paula Treaties or you're,
30:02
you know, the other person. I can't remember, you know, like
30:06
the, the like it's, it's the, the, the choreography really is
30:10
the, the, the feel and the atmosphere of the music.
30:14
Plus the two of you bring the story in because you have seen
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the movie, the movies and, and you're able to then then tell
30:22
your own story with the choreography that has already
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been put in. So.
30:26
Yeah, so we had like a full team in a way because Roman was fully
30:30
basing the choreography off of the music and the feeling from
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the music. And then we were able to bring
30:35
our storyline into it. And that's also the way our
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school here works in Montreal. We have our coaches and
30:41
choreographers, the technical side coaches, Roman being a
30:44
choreographer. But then we work with other
30:46
people, multiple people, other coaches that I am that help us
30:50
develop the story of the program.
30:52
It's not just Roman and it's not just Patch and it's not just
30:55
Marie. There's a an army of people that
30:58
we work with still to this day on developing the story and the
31:02
characters of all of our programs.
31:05
So yeah, it took a village and everybody got invested.
31:09
Like everybody was bringing their own kind of vision into
31:12
it. And it just, it helped us
31:13
develop the layers of what our program programs have.
31:17
Well, I, I know the two of you have things to do and I, I want
31:21
to make sure that you all get to do the things that you need to
31:24
do. But world's coming up in a
31:26
couple weeks where two Sundays before we head to Prague.
31:31
So what are you thinking about for that competition?
31:36
You know, how are you entering this, your third worlds
31:41
together, right to, you know, get to where you want to get to
31:46
by the end of the season? Where's your head?
31:48
For us, it's like each competition, first of all, it's
31:50
like a new competition. People like to say like, yeah,
31:54
the world's after the Olympics, you know, like something can
31:59
happen there, like the doors are open or stuff like this.
32:02
But we really like to go and every competition as a new
32:06
competition, obviously. And at Gualts, like every other
32:11
competition, we want to create a moment on the ice, which we have
32:15
done so far this season pretty well, especially with our doing
32:19
program. We always want to create a
32:20
moment on the ice, which is memorable.
32:22
And then from this story and from that moment, what we create
32:27
out of the ice is like after first of all, the feeling after
32:30
when you're when you've created this moment, we both know it.
32:33
We look at each other and we were like, OK, yes, we, we just
32:37
did it again. And that's like the most
32:40
important for us to create this memorable moment and eat out
32:45
there together as one and then see what the results and stuff
32:49
make with that. But of course, try to try to
32:53
improve our season's best scores.
32:55
Definitely. But more important, and most
32:58
most important, is really this moment we create out there
33:01
together as a couple and the story we want to bring to the
33:05
crowd and then we will see what happens.
33:08
Have you figured out what is giving you the exclamation
33:11
point? I knew it's coming.
33:13
Oh, it's coming. I was going to say, and our goal
33:16
is to not get a an exclamation point in the car step.
33:21
Did you did you get the feedback?
33:23
We haven't gotten the feedback yet from the games.
33:26
We know from past events, but for the games we haven't gotten
33:29
the feedback yet, unfortunately, so we're just training it to our
33:34
eye right now with a lot of camera work and being very
33:39
specific. Such a mystery.
33:41
Yeah, it was a shock to us because we didn't actually know
33:46
we got the score and we were over the moon with our score
33:49
when we signed the leader chair. For a while we didn't look at
33:52
the score sheet when we left because we were like, I don't
33:54
care. Like that was great, which is
33:57
very rare for us. We usually like to look at our
33:59
levels and see didn't even bother.
34:01
We were just on such a high. It wasn't until we reunited with
34:04
our families upstairs in the stands where my mother told me I
34:08
probably you got an explanation point.
34:10
I was like. Huh.
34:11
And. Then I ran, ran to John Luke.
34:13
I was like, we got an exclamation point.
34:15
He's like, yeah. And then we watched the video.
34:18
We couldn't figure it out. Tim and I saw red immediately.
34:22
And we were both just like this. We're for like a hot second.
34:27
Tim was more angry than I was 100%.
34:29
But we were both just like we felt.
34:32
We were so angry. Let's just say that.
34:35
But then we remembered we're at the Olympic Games.
34:38
We did just do really well. We're with our families.
34:41
Let's get a glass of wine and enjoy this moment.
34:44
We'll reevaluate another time, but yeah, we're we're training
34:48
very diligently right now with that.
34:51
Rumor has it that's changing as of next year.
34:53
So it's fingers crossed. The meantime, we'll.
34:56
Just be careful. Yeah, there's just sometimes
34:58
when you look at those things and you're like, really, you
35:00
got, did you get a, did you get a meter stick out to, to measure
35:04
whether you were two meters apart or two arm legs apart?
35:07
Like it's like, yeah, it, it, that kind of stuff kills me.
35:11
The the nitpicking of it for no reason at all other than to say
35:15
like, gotcha, yeah. Yeah.
35:17
And it's it's like it's just so costly.
35:20
Yeah, for so of something it's like.
35:22
Three points. Yeah, so we were like, oh wow,
35:26
our heads are going, oh wow, we got one.
35:28
What do you get? 120, two, 123, the games, 123.
35:32
We were like, oh, we could have had a 125 freelance at the
35:35
Olympics. Yeah, So what could have?
35:40
1/22/96 So you could have had a 126 Yeah well you know what it's
35:45
a a new thing to to go for at the.
35:47
It's a new goal, Yeah, it's a new goal.
35:49
It keeps things interesting I guess.
35:52
Yeah, exactly. And anyway I have the pin from
35:54
you so. Yeah, I I feel partially
35:58
responsible. For Oh no, no, no, we just, we
36:01
just ran with the trend. I know, I know.
36:05
Well, Olivia, Tim, excited to see you in Prague and enjoy the
36:09
next two weeks of training and resetting as you go into your
36:15
final competition of the year. And you know, good luck with
36:19
everything and I'll see you there.
36:21
Thank you so much, Jackie. Bye bye.