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Episode 17: What are we doing? · Football Junkies podcast

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Double back alert double back alert double back alert double back alert folks. That's right. We got a loaded episode
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Okay, you guys are about to get three episodes
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Three episodes in a small amount of time. Okay, you cannot tell me that your GM does not love you guys
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Okay, we got a lot to talk about okay Tyson Campbell and Christian Daris all gets paid the sound ready cuz holding out
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We have a double. No not double. We have a triple
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Rant alert. Okay triple rant alert folks
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Why because the bangles owner doesn't want to pay tea higgins nor Jamar Chase
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Seyquan is telling his side of the story. What's going on with the Giants?
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Najee finally has spoken and we finally know what's going on and
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Matthew Stafford gets a restructure and
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And I'm our Cooper as well all of this and more on the 17th episode of the greatest
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Football junkies podcast you will ever know
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To me. Okay, you're talking about a podcast who one
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Teaches you new stats to breaks down money for you and three gives you insightful
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Information every single time I am your host your GM who still is not on the team, but
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Who still is on the road?
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Prospecting scouting looking to find my next all pro first ballot Hall of Fame player kale. Let's get it
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You
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All right folks, you know what there's no point in us trying to delete that little trying to you know walk our way into this thing
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No, we already in the driver's seat seatbelts is locked in key ignition has already been turned buckle up
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We're going in for it. All right now if you guys do not know
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Cornerback for the Jacksonville Jaguars Tyson Campbell has eight a four-year
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76.5 million dollar extension to stay with him. He gets 40 he gets 53 excuse me 53.4 million guaranteed
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He will be making 19.3 million a year right okay cool now
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Just a few things with Tyson Campbell right this past season he had 42 solo tackles one-force fumble one pick five
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Past afflictions we look at someone like a Tyson like a Tyson Campbell, right?
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You're looking at somebody who one is still is still fairly young to it has definitely started to become a
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major piece within that secondary and
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Three who at this point it's better to lock him up now
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Then to try to scramble and try to figure out what are you going to do once free agency hits next year, right?
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I mean, it's not really that big of a that big of a deal honestly. I think it's a fairly pretty good deal
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It it doesn't crest, you know, the the top ten highest paid
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Cornerback list, but it's like right there. So it's like
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He's he's getting paid
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But it's not to the point where it's like it's a situation where you know
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This contract may hurt them like two or three years down the road. Okay?
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Even when you look at the highest paid corners by annual average salary, right?
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You have Jaheer Alexander a 21 million Denzel Ward at 20 at 20.1 million J. LaRamsey 20 million Marlon Humphrey
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19.5 March on Larmor 19.4 Trevon Diggs 19.4
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So literally if we can be real here though, those are just those are just the top six now
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Tyson Campbell is probably there but at the same time this also sort of paints a picture for future corners that are going to be
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You know, you know free agents come next year, right? You have your AJ Turrell's and
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Whoever else that you know that may be available as well
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Now when you're going to look a little bit down the road into the future when you have someone like a
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PS2 or a sauce gardener this sort of you know gives you an idea of like, okay, this is low
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This is the high. This is the medium. This is probably how much I'm probably want to be asking for
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You know all those different type of things. So, you know congratulations to him now to show the big boys
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Love man because we love our tackles. We love our offensive linemen here, right?
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Left tackle for the Vikings Christian Derisaw, right?
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ain't a four-year
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113 million dollar deal
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77 million of that is guaranteed
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43.7 million is guaranteed at Simon. He'll be making
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28.25 million a year
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Now when we break this down here folks Christian Derisaw has been an anchor on that offensive line
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Okay, he he is in that group of
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Young and up young and up and coming tackles who you know have been very productive since coming into the league, right?
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He's in that group with Penae Suel
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And Tristan Werffson whatnot. He's in that group because he has you know, he has consistently been
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One of the best young tackles
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In the league, right? You're talking about somebody who you know is definitely a focal piece for that offense and an
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Offense where you know, it's still fairly young, right? You have a quarterback who's on the rookie deal
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The biggest contract on the entire team's roster is only Justin Jefferson
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It's the biggest deal and then under that is probably now Christian Derisaw
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So I say all that to say this the Vikings are following the the recipe which is you build around
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The quarterback your rookie quarterback within that period where you don't have to pay them
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So that by the time it gets to you know to to talk about contracts and whatnot. Guess what?
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The office is already established. It's already went throughs its highs and lows already went through, you know
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You know a draft player, you know probably didn't do well someone getting traded someone getting moved
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You know various different types of things, right? And then not to mention the Vikings, you know
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Their top priorities aside from you know getting their future quarterback was also making sure that they you know paid their left tackle
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As well as the star receiver because both of them pay both of them play a very pivotal role on that offense
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And when they are not on the field they are that that offense is just it's not the best, right?
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And so, you know, how does this affect future tackle, you know deals?
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I don't know especially for someone like Tristan Werves who you know, he's still looking for money as well
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So it's a matter of okay, is he probably gonna want more money than Christian D'Aresal?
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Is he gonna want more money than you know?
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Pineso, well, what what exactly is Tristan Werves looking for? Okay?
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I think that's the million dollar question in all of this right now now
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Moving on to other things because we have a lot to talk about okay, but first before we get to the rent
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I'll let I think we do have to talk about Hassan Redick just a little bit now
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When we look at the Hassan Redick situation right Hassan Redick, you know since being traded from the Eagles to the Jets
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Basically has been holding out because he wants a new deal rightfully so no problem with that. However
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There really hasn't been a lot of communication
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As far as you know, what exactly is Hassan Redick's number?
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Why are the Jets not willing to pay him is there you know what exactly is going on right and so you know
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The the Giants I mean other Giants
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Excuse me because I was watching hard knocks before before I started recording the Jets GM is in a situation where
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You have to figure out exactly. What do you want to do with with Hassan Redick at this point?
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because he's probably looking for top dollar money and you realize that you know
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this this
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Not the roster, but the the the contracts are starting to pile up just a little bit right you have Aaron Rodgers
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Deal you have Quinn and Williams deal. You still have CJ Moseley's deals
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You still have a lot of you know moving pieces, but at the same time
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You want to be able to have a little bit of cap flexibility
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Just in case you want to try go after you know some people to Fonte Adams or Brandon are you awake? Who knows right?
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So you have you want to be able to figure out what you want to do now granted
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if you if you would have told the Jets that Hassan Redick would have you know be doing things that he's doing right now I
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Think the Jets probably wouldn't have tried to trade for Hassan Redick, but clearly
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That's not the case and so now they're in a situation where?
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They have to figure out exactly. What are they going to do?
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with him because training camp has started right and
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You know you don't want something like this to continue to linger on as training camp continues to go by you don't especially
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If you have with them having someone like a Hassan Redick on that defensive line that definitely elevates things to another level
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Okay, because you have Quinn and Williams in the middle. He's gonna have to get double team
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You have a sign ready who can play both the left and the right side
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You have you know, you still have Jermaine Johnson and you also have
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The other patch rusher that they drafted as well
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so you have somewhat of a
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Rotation on the defensive line and that cannot be you know done successfully if
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You know if you're supposed to star patch rusher isn't even there practicing
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Right like there there has been
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There has been so much drama with the Jets lately that it's just like do you even paid any mind at this point?
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Like granted, I'm I'm I'll always say that I'm pro player always want you know players getting paid and whatnot
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But at this point you are hurting yourself more and you are hurting the team by you by your negligence
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Instead of just trying to you know come into the building trying to figure out exactly, you know
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What what mutual ground do you and the team has?
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What's a number that that benefits everybody is it too high is it too low is it just right and
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Just go from there at that point you would conquer more
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There if you was then you know then just you know holding out over there
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It's different if you was holding in if he was holding in you know
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He's just doing his own personal work
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Workouts to the side and not with the team then that's perfectly fine because he's in the building and that means that you can you know
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Have a physical conversation with him compared to him not being involved with the team at all not learning the defense not
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Understanding and building chemistry with other players on that team
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Especially on the defense so I say all that to say this and this is for any player
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That you know that that may be trying to look for a deal it would be better for you to do a hold in
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Than a hold out because at least with a hold in you can still have that
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Communication with the front office and with your agent to try to find and get a deal done as quickly as possible
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Because the longer this thing holds out
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The more attention is it's going to be brought and it's just it's sort of like a fire you the more oxygen
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It gets and I could be wrong the more oxygen it gets the stronger the
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The fire gets and you don't want that because you already have drama already with you know
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Aron Rogers, so now you're gonna have this like it's just all it's just a
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big ball of just
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Bull crap. That's really what it is and you know
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Kudos to all the Jets fans that endure all this. I don't know how the world you guys do it
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But if it was me, I would not be doing it at all now. It's time to go into these rain alerts
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Okay, we got a lot of rain alerts. Okay, so I'm gonna let you know right now
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You probably don't want to listen to this out in public. Okay, you probably want to have headphones on
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Or you know, whatever else how however it is. Okay, so let's let's let's let's get into these rain alerts, okay?
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So the bangles owner bangles owner. I think his name is Mike Brown if I'm not mistaken
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So he put out two quotes lately
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About both T Higgins and the Jamar Chase
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Contract situation. So let's go over the quote that he put out on why he's not paying T Higgins
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So he said and I quote according to Miles Simmons from NBC Sports Pro football Network shout out to you for the reporting
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He said quote-unquote the pie is not going to grow
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It's only going to be a certain size but when you reach a point where with your quarterback that you have to pay him a
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Big contract that takes a disproportionate price out of the pie
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Which means you have less to pay the others
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Sometimes the impacts whether you can get get the other sign
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You can't just pay the people willy-nilly
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You're restricted on how much you can pay and we really like T Higgins
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We would wish to sign him but it has to be a certain level to fit within the cap or it can't be done
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Right now when you look at all of that
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And in some ways he he does make sense, you know once you do pay the quarterback
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It does limit the ability to pay other players
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However, you did know that this was coming up soon, right?
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You knew it you knew that pretty soon you're gonna have to pay T Higgins
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You're gonna have to pay Jomar Chase and you're gonna have to pay Joe Burrow, right?
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You already knew that so for you to say something like you can't just pay the people willy-nilly
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Yes, you can technically speaking
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Because you could have paid T Higgins last year had you paid T Higgins last year
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You wouldn't be in the situation where you are right now
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Because now the word the wide receiver market is so crazy right now
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And you still have one you still have two more players that are going to get big contracts in both
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His mind just his name just just let my mind up Brandon IE week and CD lamb
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It's gonna mess you up more it is
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Whether you realize it or not the longer that you wait out
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The worst it's going to be for you because guess what the minute somebody else gets as close as they can to Justin
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Jefferson's deal or even surpasses it it messes up the entire negotiation
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It does and you literally have two receivers right now
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Who are ones on any other team?
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Right, and you know that if you let one of those two walk or the both of them walk, that's it
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It is for Nito. It is done, right when you look at T Higgins market value
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It's still five years ninety eight point five million which would equate to nineteen point seven million
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On average according to spot right now when you look at your mark Chase's market value
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It's a three-year ninety one point five million dollar deal. He'll be making thirty point five million a year
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When we look at these deals those deals aren't really that bad, right?
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Because okay, yes Joe Burrow is you know, it's hit his deal is sort of like ironclad because he's the quarterback
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Okay, perfectly fine, but you have to be able to find a way to make sure that you take care of both T Higgins and
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Jamar Chase, but even then with with the you know recent reports coming out that you know
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They haven't even had a discussion about contract talks since last March for
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For T Higgins that says a lot that says a whole lot of folks
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That is something that you in some ways you have to be concerned about
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Because why in the world didn't you not have these discussions?
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You know since since last March and
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T Higgins has basically let it be known like listen once this season is over with I'm going
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I'm going and so you know that bridge is basically burnt
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And I don't think it'll probably be rebuilt who knows but when you look at you know
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But when you go back to the bangles owner when you look at his quotes about Jamar Chase
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It's somewhat of a similar thing as well. He said according to Adam Schefter
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He said and I quote it's not so likely that this is the good time to negotiate
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The offseason is a better time for that and we're going to try to keep focus on the football part
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I'm not going to rule anything out, but I will tell you that the die has already been cast, right?
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This is the offseason
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Mr. Brown, it's that this is this is the offseason, right?
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That's this this right here this this area this this time. It's the offseason
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So why on God's green earth?
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Would you say something like this when you know dad going well that CD lamb is still looking for a deal and
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Brandon I you look is still looking for a deal
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You know damn well that you are not going to pay neither one of these receivers
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And you know damn well when you don't pay neither one of these receivers
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You guys are going to go back to being the fourth best team in this division. You know it. I know it everybody knows it
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That's ridiculous. That's honestly ridiculous
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You should have prioritized making sure that you take care of your offense because guess what your offense is the reason
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Why you guys win so many games your offense is the reason why you guys made it to the Super Bowl
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Your offense is the reason why you guys continue to go toe-to-toe with Patrick Mahomes
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Without that offense you guys are nothing and I don't care what any Bengals fan may say
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It's literally your offense. That's the best part of your team. You take away that offense
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You have nothing that defense that defense is deplorable
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You have Trey Hendrickson who was on the edge right now who is basically saying I am willing to retire
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Unless you guys give me more money. You've lost DJ reader. You've lost Larry open Joby
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You've lost a lot of the people in that secondary and you think just you know, oh, it's just not the time to do it
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Well, when is the good time to do it?
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When when is the time for you to finally decide? Oh, okay? It's time to pay
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The receivers now. No, you should have taken care of this now
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Because now the receiver market is so jacked up and it's not going to be able to somewhat
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Um fix itself that guess what now you're gonna have to pay more money and
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Let's not hope and pray that CD land gets a deal done soon or Brandon
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Iewe because if one of those two get a get a deal done soon
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The whole playing field is destroyed. You know it. I know but hey, guess what?
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I'm a bankers fan. So guess what? I have to deal with this shit. I don't who cares, right?
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Nobody cares, but this is the type of stuff here folks
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That some that at times can make you a little bit
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Frustrated with the team because it's like, okay
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Why are you so unwilling to not pay?
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You know that your players take care of your players now great
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I understand that you know, not everybody can get paid. I understand that I respect that all those different type of things
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But you have to know it but you have to have active
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negotiations with the team in order to understand and probably come to a conclusion on hey
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Maybe it's just best that we just part of separate ways. We play we play the season now
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Maybe we'll come, you know, maybe we'll come back and you know figure figure something out
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I you know post the season maybe we can you know rekindle something and try to get a deal done
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Or we'll just let you just walk in free agency. How easy is that?
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I literally just solved the problem and I've only been a GM for only six years
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But I'm still not on the team right now, but that's another storefront another day
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That's all I'm saying, right? And you know, if you're a bangles fan, you should be concerned about this because guess what?
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If the bangles don't pay neither T. Haggings or Jamar taste
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It's gonna look
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And this is about to be a load of barnacles
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But again, I am not a bangles fan now moving on to this whole
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Giants and say quant situation because now we finally are able to see
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Say quant tell his side of the story and sort of break things down on
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What exactly happened between those contract negotiations between him and the Giants because hard knots did show
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You know the phone conversation and whatnot, but they didn't really go in depth
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With everything but with say quant doing an interview with Diana Mussini and her podcast shout out to scoop city
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You know now we are finally able to sort of pick apart and sort of understand exactly what happened, right?
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So, you know, these are just sort of like a few notes that sort of you know, jot it down when when I was
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listening and looking at the
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Looking at the interview. So basically he said and I quote it was over after the phone call in my opinion
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It was over after after that because I never in my heart truly believed
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They were going to match it or they only wanted me for a lower price
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Joe made a comment that it took 10 years off his life like if it took 10 years off your life
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What do you think it did for me?
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Right now from that alone, you can definitely tell
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That this situation especially that phone call probably, you know
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bothered sequan a little bit because
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When you look at it, you know, he's definitely been a very focal piece for that, you know for that offense
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So for the GM to basically go out and say, okay. Yeah
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Uh, we're just gonna let you hit free agency and let you test the market and hopefully, you know, you come back, you know
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You know, there's any other blah blah blah all the same rhetoric that every GM says
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But in sequan situation, it's a little bit unique because
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He's a focal point. He's the focal point of the offense. That's what he is, right?
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And you know as a GM, there are certain players on your team that you have to prioritize
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And if you don't prioritize them guess what's gonna happen
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They're gonna go to a division rival and then they're gonna run your ass over
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Every single time that the that you guys face one another and that's exactly what sequan is going to do when he goes up
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When he goes up against the Giants
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He went to the Eagles
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The owner literally said
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I would I don't want to lose sleep
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Off of this sequan situation in translate in translation. Do you know what that means?
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We need to sign sequan. You need to find a way to get sequan. I don't care
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What the general norm is about running backs and paying them a whole lot of money?
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None of those things you need to find a way to get him because he realizes that sequan
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alone
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Does so much for that offense and when sequan is not on that field when he is not making plays and whatnot
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That offense becomes stagnant and he cannot do anything with it
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That's what it is, right?
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even when you look at some of the
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Some of you know some of the things
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Um that that sequan said, you know, he he he said, you know, he felt, you know frustrated that the that the Giants didn't prioritize
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Um didn't prioritize him and sort of give him a fair negotiation compared to what they did for you know
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um
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You know dexter lorenz and daniel jones and anthony tom is right, which is
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rightfully so
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You you didn't try your hardest to try to find a way to keep sequan
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Sequan already told you where he wanted to be
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So if he told you where you where he wanted to be you should have worked something out to get it done
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That's what you should have done instead of you trying to talk yourself into believing into daniel jones
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You should have been trying to figure out a way to do something with sequan
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You should have been trying to figure out a way to do something with sequan
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You should have been trying to figure out a way to do something with sequan
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Because you know damn well if you
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lose sequan
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That's it for the offense because no matter who else you bring they will not be able to match the production
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That is sequan barkley brings
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Perfectly fine. No disrespect to him at all great great opportunity for him to get you know to get more money or whatnot
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But at the same time
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Do you really think devin singletary can do the same things that a sequan barkley can do no
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No, not at all not even not even on the best day of the week
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Could devin singletary do the things that sequan barkley do and they know it
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So if you think that's going to work perfectly fine, but just know you messed up
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But even when we go and we go a little bit deeper into this interview, you know
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sequan won the first two years of the deal guarantee
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But when as joe shane basically said he was going to take it up with ownership
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And you know there was never an answer giving back to sequan on if they can do that or not
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Me personally, I feel like that was somewhat of a simple fix that you probably shouldn't you shouldn't have to go to
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management for because you're the gm and
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You should just basically say somewhat of a yes or no answer
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You should have just run that you know with the money people and then you know just go from there honestly, right?
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And you know, I would definitely say throughout this entire interview
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He definitely emphasized a lot that he felt disrespected
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You know throughout the entire process and rightfully so because you know when you look at it
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Sequan really didn't have a chance to really negotiate. He did it and so
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In his mind, he's like to hell with y'all
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If y'all don't value me as as a player if y'all don't value me
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You know what I do on the field off the field for this organization
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Then what is the point in me trying to give you guys a chance to?
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You know try to get a deal done or try to come back. There's no point
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The bridge is already burning you said what you said whatever you
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What when when you said what you said when Joe Shane basically said we're gonna let you hit the free agency market
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That's it. That's the nail in the coffin. That's it. That's it. There's nothing you can do or say that's going to change that
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It's not
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And so now you're gonna have to do with the repercussions
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You know what the repercussions are say quan steam rolling that defense two times a season
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And guess what and guess what Joe Shane?
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You got the best seat in the house
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So you get to see it for two games this season. So guess what?
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So when it happens when seguan barkley goes off and seguan does seguan things
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Just know we're all going to revisit that conversation that you had with him on hard knocks
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Where you basically said, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna let you hit the free agency. Let's go. Let you just test the market
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See what happens. Okay. That's what happened now moving on to
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You know just just some very small key points. Um, amari cooper
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Basically
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Agreed to a restructure of his deal. Um, basically the browns are giving him
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five a five million dollars somewhat of a
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Arrays it if you would say but it's mainly in incentives while giving half of the 20 million dollars that he was supposed to get
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And change it into a signing bonus now me personally
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I think it's more of a somewhat of a cleanup type of
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Um deal
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I think it's more of a way to create a little bit of uh cap space for them and give them a little bit of
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Flexibility just in case if they do want to go after somebody and add to this team
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But at the same time try to take a little bit less off of his contract because they know
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that you know
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Maybe they want to get rid of them. Maybe they want to trade them. Maybe they
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Maybe they want to try to add somebody else into the receiver room or to the offense or let them know the defense
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Who knows right the browns have been able to do very small little things when it comes to their contracts and their books
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You know lately and you know to some people it's like, you know, it's nothing really, you know major but to me
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It's like okay
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They're trying to set themselves up to probably go after one more big time player possibly but who knows right?
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Now same thing with uh the matt matthew staffer situation, you know, he agreed to a restructure deal as well
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He only had 15 million guaranteed. Um after after the 2024 season
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Um, but unfortunately there there is no details about that restruct as well
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But what it sounds like to me is he didn't he wanted more guaranteed money
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He had it after this season after this upcoming
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Season and so basically the Rams probably gave him a number
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They probably agreed to that number and so they probably broke it down
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And so, you know, here's the situation that you have right here now
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Here is something that we have to talk about because this just came up, right?
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So nonji here is finally has spoken
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You know about, you know, what what has happened with the Steelers and you know them not deciding to pick up his fifth year option
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Um now all my Steelers fans, you know, don't don't get upset with me because I am a Steelers fan myself
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I mean I sound like it all the time, but yes, unfortunately. I am a Steelers fan
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So according to Brooke prior shout out shout out to Brooke by the way, um
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This is basically the quote that that um that nonji basically said at trading camp, right?
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So basically, um
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They he said that the Steelers told him that they were declining because they didn't know which direction the offense is
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headed
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I'm gonna say that again
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The Steelers told nonji Harris the person who's had a thousand rushing yards
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Three seasons in a row that they don't know which direction the offense is headed
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Meanwhile, the Steelers hired
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Arthur Smith who runs a run heavy offense
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Oh, by the way
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The Steelers drafted two tackles in the first round with both project Jones
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and Troy Futano
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And you mean to tell me
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That the bullshit answer that you give nonji Harris is oh, we don't know which which direction the offense is headed
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Bullshit
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Straight up bullshit. You cannot you can't tell someone like that
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That okay. Yeah, we don't know which was direct
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You know because you made the moves that dictated what direction the offense is going to go
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Which is what we're going to run the ball and we're going to have a physical defense
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That's the identity of the Pittsburgh Steelers going into the 2024 season
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Everybody knows it
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They've been rebuilding the offensive line. They've been prioritizing running the ball more
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They got an offensive coordinator who ran the ball when he was the offensive coordinator at tennessee
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So why in the world would you tell me something like this? And let's not forget folks
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The fifth year option for nonji Harris wasn't even that expensive
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It was only six to eight million dollars if i'm not mistaken
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So what in the world are we doing and that's probably going to be that that's probably the name for this episode. Bam
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GM does it every single time
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But what are we doing here folks? What are we doing?
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It's one thing if nonji Harris wasn't being productive
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It's one thing if you know, you want to go in a different direction and whatnot. Okay, cool perfectly fine
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But to say something like this, you don't know which direction the offense is headed
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I'm sorry. That is a lackluster answer. Um, because clearly your actions
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spoke louder than your words
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Especially, you know with previous interviews leading up to this point basically
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You know both the GM and the head coach and the owner basically emphasizing that they wanted to run the ball more
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That's what they emphasize
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So if they emphasize that they wanted to run the ball more then guess what guess what they did
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They got an offensive coordinator who does what run the ball more. They got one offense of linemen so they can do what run the ball more
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Come on guys. Come on. Can you know what? I'm I'm I'm done. I'm I'm I'm I'm just
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